Real Lawyer Reacts: Opening Statements in WI v. Jessy Kurczewski Trial - Eye Drops Used As Poison
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A nurse was sentenced to 25 to life for poisoning her husband with visine! This defense didn’t do his homework
Which case was that?
@@hopefulhumanLana Clayton poisoned her husband Steve Clayton with visine/eye drops (tetrahydrozolene) in july 2018 in south Carolina. Sentenced to 25 years. Yeah this defense attorney is a complete bozo. If he were my attorney and he's standing up there professing there's been no deaths caused by poisoning someone with eyedrops, i would fire him for incompetence. The Lana/Steve Clayton visine murder has been on 48 hours and dateline a couple different times over the last couple years. I just watched it a few months ago on a repeat from about a year ago. Ever since that case it has been pretty well known that visine/tetrahydrozolene is lethal if ingested.
@@hopefulhuman South Carolina vs Lana Sue Clayton. She killed him in 2018.
I could be mistaken, but I thought there was another case of a man being fatally poisoned with eye drops. This is an interesting case. Thanks for sharing, Peter
Yes it happened in SC she was nurse Lana Clayton
So now like the defendant, her lawyers are lying also.
This case is boring she didn’t do it she’s bipolar!
One google search showed me like 3 people that had been killed using eye drops
two separate cases in the Carolina's ...
I used to work in pharmacy and I remember the pharmacist saying the “prank” to give people visine in their drink to cause diarrhea is super harmful because the drug can cause seizures, cardiac issues or even a coma. I could see argument that using it as eye drops into the eye could not cause death but ingestion at a high level I would think could. Also the tox screen should show all the concentrations and be relatively clear what is at a deadly level
Lana Sue Clayton was convicted a few years ago for killing her husband with eyedrops .. does the defense lawyer not have Google? She was sentenced to 25 years in SC.
I wonder what is in the water in SC😮
Well, anything can happen in SC total corruption of their legal branch.
My daughter got ahold of a visine bottle when she was little and poison control freaked we had to rush her to ER, they said it could stop her heart. She had to drink this charcoal stuff and was hooked up to all these things and monitored for hours. I never knew visine was deadly till then
Wow! Thank God your child is ok!! I just never imagined eye drops could kill you. And then to think somebody would drink it!
@maryw4108 Vets use charcoal for pet poisoning. Most poisons bind with charcoal, making them inert.
I am glad that you are covering this case.
Yes, please continue coverage of this one. This case is very interesting!
Everyone has heard of the case in SC when a man died from 1 bottle of eye drops. The other Carolina case is in Mount Holly NC- a chopper medic is charged with murdering his wife in the same way after hearing about the SC case. The wife had a pacemaker but was healthy. Her mother asked the insurance company to investigate and they found the poison.
I didn't bat an eye when I heard "visine killer" but finding out those amounts of those other drugs were in Lynn's stomach totally flipped me. Cyclobenzaprine is a powerful muscle relaxant and is scary in this context! I can't take even the normal adult dose without feeling like I have to make a conscious effort to breathe. Even if she had built up a tolerance to it, finding all those pills in her stomach, and with other pills, just seems like a HUGE red flag against the visine being the clear killer. I'm very curious to find out how they made that determination.
I would think the amounts would be a big indicator....considering they reported 6 bottles of visine ingested it sure seems like they could make the conclusion. They easily could've reported her death as due to multiple medications like they did with Heath Ledger...there is a reason why they believe it is strictly one drug responsible.
Lynn had been poisoned by Jessy Kurzesski put Tetraydrozoline for at least a year and then 6, ,5 oz. bottles in Lynn's water bottle. There was no alcohol in her just high levels of the THZ. It's a horrific death.
This is the same judge as the Darrell Brooks trial, I’m pretty sure. I recognized her voice!
Yes....the one and only Judge Jennifer Darrow.
Hey Peter. Please continue to cover this trial! I absolutely LOVE this judge. And I’m shocked that someone would use eye drops to poison someone!!
Same! Love her!
Yes! Judge Dorow ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you to whoever gifted the membership I just received!! I’m so excited to check out the member benefits. Love this channel ❤
Coming in not knowing anything on this case but look forward to seeing how the US system workers as I live in a different country.
Yes please cover this trial. Judge Darrow as our favorite Judge will provide much from which to glean.
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Definitely interested! I had no clue eye drops c/b lethal! Had to slow to .75 - Peter is 'slurring'😮 Scared me for a brief second! 😊
@LYK....was hoping someone would be covering this case.
I need it to take a break from Maya's case.
Besides I am in awe of Judge Darrow.
TOTALLY interested in this trial!!! First, it's unusual...and second, any trial with Judge Dorrow has my interest...
i take care of my mom who will be 87 in Jan. She takes alot of meds and we both write everything down!! The time she took it and how much was taken. I write on her paper how she is feeling that day and if she ate breakfast lunch ect...I started doing it because she was having to take more and more meds. I was scared i would forget a dose or give her an extra dose because i forgot what i gave her earlier. And then as she got older i stepped up my notes. The Dr. has been able to catch things sooner just from me writing she didnt feel well after lunch. He narrowed it down to 1 pill she was taking at lunch time and changed the meds and she felt so much better. If you have kids or elderly id reccomend taking daily note. Its so worth it!
Good for you! Seriously!🥰 it’s not easy…I know. My mom is a about 10 years younger and has Parkinson’s. I guess I won’t say it’s good, but there is no way for her to miss a dose because she will immediately feel it with tremors and dystonia and I will see it! With that said, ever since she was diagnosed (which unfortunately was quite early as compared to typical PD patients), she has always had the alarms on her phone and Ipad (and now the Applewatch as well😅) set to the 5 times of day she needs to take meds. Luckily, unlike me, she is not a procrastinator…as soon as that alarm goes off, she is taking the meds. Your advice is great though and perfect timing as we have an appt with her Neurologist today to discuss changing up medications out of necessity to better control symptoms and your method of noting things you see with regards to meds is great so that we can hopefully trace any negative side effects….so imma steal it…k?!🥰
@heatherm9163 absolutely! take it because I had no idea that my notes would lead to that 1 pill causing her so much discomfort, but I gave my notes to the Dr and he found it quickly. He said let's start by changing this pill and see if that helps, if it doesn't I see another medicine that might be the culprit but at least I have a starting point. I was surprised but very happy. I hope things with your mom get better. Hopefully her Dr can change her meds and get better control over her symptoms. When they feel better than you and I can feel better. Your in my prayers fit sure!!
@@maryw1761 Aww thanks. Very sweet to f you.! God knows we all need more prayers and more kindness.
Thanks for covering this story. I took care of my ml when she had dementia and everything was written down so her sons could go thru and she exactly what was happening with the money. Every thing laid out with receipts. I worked the late shift last night so I slept in this morning and missed both of your streams. I am off tomorrow, so if you’re not super early, then I should be able to make it. Thanks for this one.
Interested in your coverage on this trial👍
The active ingredient in eye drops is often used in murder mystery books based in the mid 20th century
Love the judge in this new trial with Judge Dorow! This case is nuts! Love it!!
Afternoon all and Happy hump day of the week. Hope Peter and everyone is well. Sending love from the UK 🇬🇧 ❤
Glad you are covering this Peter! I was trying to catch a live and suggest it but my work schedule has been hectic. ❤
Thank you for bringing this case to our attention. I'm constantly shocked at the cases that come up, but I learn so much.👍
Very glad you are covering this case.
I listen to most thinks on 1.5 speed. Doing that on Peter’s channel makes everyone in court sound like the rules & regulations speed talking at the end of commercials 😂
Loved your video on this. I hope you do continue to cover this trial.
Thanks for covering this trial. Im trying to watch it, but im really appreciative for commentary
Thanks so much for covering this one! It is one I will definitely be following.☘️🌹
I just ran across this case, listened to the openings and got hooked. Thanks for covering it.
I appreciate your balanced insight into unique cases. Good job.
Thanks for covering this trial…absolutely love Judge Darrow!! Hope you keep covering!!!
I am watching thisntrial, and would very much appreciate your continuing coverage, Peter!
Thank you for covering this! This is going to be another interesting one. Your breakdown gets me interested in trials I think are boring. Your views keep me riveted from beginning to end of trials. Thank you!
I hope you follow this case, Peter. I’m a licensed pharmacist and was talking to colleagues today. None of us were aware of Visine being related to causing death. In all the years of schooling and in over a decade of practice, I’ve never heard of this. 😂 I’m bewildered. It’s a vasoconstrictor so I suppose in theory, it could cause death. But she was on a lot of medications that could also cause death! Random, but Nair Hair remover has been documented to causing death by stopping the heart….but I’ve never heard of visine. I have lots of absorption and distribution (pharmacokinetics) questions in my pharmacist brain that need to be answered for me to buy into this. 😂
I loved this honest comment from a professional in the industry. I am not….but also had never heard of this. I immediately thought back to some of the kids in HS that smoked Mary Jane all the time and were constantly using eye drops, and I mean like insane amounts in a day. 😅. It will be interesting to see your comments going forward on this!
I'm surprised pharmacists don't know that this is poison. Is there not a warning not to ingest? I had a coworker who poisoned another coworkers drink with Visine years ago. The coworker didn't die but got pretty sick. She knew they were poisonous if ingested.
Once again, you make the case interesting. I never heard of this case, but now I am interested in following it.
Thanks! Please continue to cover this case!
I would very much like you to keep covering this.
I’m a big fan of your channel, Peter. I never get an opportunity to comment because I typically listen while I’m driving. Thanks for covering all of the cases you cover. I just started this one after hearing you mention it during the Maya recap.
Thank you Peter! Interested! 😊
Yes please follow this case! Trying to watch this one and Maya! So busy!
Please continue this case! ❤
Peter, thank you so much for your videos and commentary. Every time you cover a new case, it is so eye-opening for me how biased I can get listening to one side until the other side brings in their defense. Not necessarily in this case but just in general, it highlights how important it is to always listen to both sides of a story.
“Eye Opening”😉
Thank you for this breakdown. I had not heard of this case. I'm excited to catch a live AND excited to receive a gifted membership! 😊
Thanks for your support!
Being in the medical field for over 30 yrs, I know that ingesting eye drops is fatal. The defendant is a care giver. She has to have medical knowledge for her job. My grandaughter is also a caregiver and she knows eye drops is fatal..so her statement admitting knowledge of the effects of drinking eyedrops doesn't incriminate her on my opinion..
Peter they live stream crimial cases, do they screen civil cases and do any of you cases get live stream so we can see you in action.
Peter, your way of explaining things makes any case interesting, so yes I’m interested in hearing more about this one.😊
Hi Peter!! Thank you for all you do. I still vividly remember an episode of CSI when I was probably 10 where someone was murdered with eye drops. Always stayed in my brain lol.
Interesting case. Please let's follow it. Thanks Peter.💜🇺🇸
LOVE Judge Dorow! Very interested in this case and would love you to cover it, Peter. Appreciate all you do!
As a Wisconsin i love all of our crazy trials. Also voted for Judge Darrow for our Supreme Court.
I heard she didn’t win. I don’t live there but definitely would have voted for her. Was it a close race? She has the patience of a saint, sincerity to ensure justice for all parties, and most importantly common sense.
Interested! Would love more coverage
I didn't know this was toxic. Usually you can taste eyedrops in the back of your throat when its applied. That's scary.
Not to offend anyone, but we actually use eye drops by mouth, when someone is on hospice, comfort meds. It helps dry up mucus or secretions to help you breathe better. It also can cause hallucinations and death.
You can Google it. Many names for it. The one I'm familiar with is scopolamine.
Yes interested!!! Watching it every day!
I'm an RN. Tetrahydrozyline (Visine) can and has killed. In fact, the t.v. show, SVU, had an episode a year or so back so now more people know about this method. Good to see they tested for it because it normally isn't in a toxicology screen.
Thanks for covering this, Peter! Love Judge Dorrow 😊
please cover this case Peter. I love your channel,,❤. Thank you so much for working so hard to explain all these cases on top of having your full time practice 😊
Please continue to cover this case I find it very interesting!
I’m interested in this case. Glad you’re covering this.
Wow. Just listening to opening, the defense really is making some great points. Also, won't they have to prove that she was drinking out of that water bottle that night for it to have killed her? (This is the only thing I've heard about the case)
Subscriber from WI here, just checking in!
My goodness very interesting case. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
thank you for covering this story - I tuned out of the Maya trial - this one is more appealing to me 😊
This is a very interesting case!!! Please continue to cover it , Peter!!
Looking forward to more of this one...
Definitely interested in this case!
QUESTION! Why does opening and closing take so long?😂 Concise and to the point, without embellishments! 🤭 p.s. your shows are our fav!❤
Yes, please cover this trial.
I was under the impression that Visine has, in fact, ended someone's life in the past. I'm sure I've seen it on other True Crime channels 🤷🏾♀️
Yes, I know of at least 2 cases
A SC nurse was just CONVICTED of murder by eyedrops of her husband.
People have died from Visene poisoning based on a Google search I did. The article also noted that there probably have been other deaths from eye drop poisoning that were not detected as it mimics death fro heart attack.
Cheers. My entertainment while working 🎉
Hi Peter! I'm very interested in this trial and hope you continue to follow it.
This oughta be a great battle of attorney's with this one. I am looking forward to watching them work!
I've never heard of this case... visine seems like it would have been an awful way to lose ur life. Thank you for covering this for us. ❤❤❤
Peter. I'm very interested in hearing more about this case. Bring it on, Peter! I'm taking Visine off my shopping list, thank you very much! If this woman is indeed guilty, she obviously used a large amount to kill this poor person. Good grief, if it's not murder by antifreeze poisoning, it's eye drops poisoning! When will it ever end? The scary part is when you insert the eye drops into your eyes you could be accidentally swallowing it, too, but that would have to be in large amounts. I'm not taking any chances--just a splash of cool water will do for me from now on or even a gentle saline solution.
Thank you for telling me how to slow down the opening statement! I’m hearing impaired and couldn’t keep up! Thank you!
Watching this one, please keep discussing this one
I am watching the trial. Didnt know about it but love Judge Durow!!!!
Definitely interested in this one, thanks Peter.
Anything can be lethal if misused.
Yes 🙌🏽 totally interested!!! Love judge Dorrow!!!
Good morning y’all from SE Texas!!
Hi Peter, it was nice to wake up to you laying out the openings & highlighting key points. The state laying out all those questionable and outright improper financial actions Jessy did with Lynn’s money weighed heavily against her in my mind, as we cared for my MIL for 8 years as her dementia progressed; did her bill-paying, shopping and upkeep out of her money with an easy system (folder) to voluntarily account if it came up. My point is there was nothing at questionable or unsubstantiated . In this case, there are so, so many red flags; it’s the totality of the circumstances. Plenty of bad acts. Thank you for discussing the key points. Btw, I have used Visine as directed. It runs down the sinuses, and seems tasteless. Why drink it in your water?
If you are doing anything financial for another person using their money you need to be able to
Prove your doing it in their best interests.
As I watch the defense opening statement...and he pushes the notion of all the meds in Lynn's system, my first thought is, But Jessy was her caretaker...probably, at least possibly, SHE could have given the medication to Lynn...
Agree
Exactly what I thought, especially since a crime scene tech later says she had a bunch of crushed up pills on her, all different kinds. This wouldn’t be the first person to drug an elderly victim for months while draining her bank account before doing her in.
Peter, it is brilliant you are doing this. Judge Darrow is from the Daryl Brooks trial. But the prosecutors and defense have clearly two different theories. Not clear on the opening statements. Who will the best lawyers? Feeling this will up and down for sometime.
Love this judge, patience of a saint dealing with Brooks🌷
This reminds me of wedding crashers when they used the eye drops to make Bradley coopers character sick.
Yes, please follow this trial ❤
Im interested in you continuing to cover this case.
The defense that the victim drank the eyedrops makes no sense to me. I would have to have the victim on video admitting or someone who was not asscociated with the accused testitfying to this! Can't wait to hear the evidence from both sides.
Very interesting! I'd like to hear more. But watching on my phone I can't adjust the speed. I turned on closed captioning and was able to read along.
Interested. Please continue
Great case to cover. Has so many angles
Just gives you diareah but that's just like 4 drops no idea what 6 bottles would do
D grade for the State, B grade for the Defendant in their respective Opening Arguments......❤🎉
Wisconsin is going to need a Go Fund Me page to triple the funding to the Tourist Board cos folk think its too dodgy to visit there ! I am sure its very nice , Someone should open a Cornish pasty shop in Eau Clare and a second hand book shop in Madison for the students . I am sure its really ,really nice.
Very interesting case!!
Love this Judge