Hi all NLR have confirmed to me SU12 changed the way some of the telemetry data is used. Some may be having connection problems. A new beta is under test right now to correct these problems I was informed yesterday. Can’t get the software running? Problems connecting. Try this.. 1. Inside the HFS homepage, uncheck the "show installed" box 2. Navigate to the HFS Software settings and turn off "automatically detect current game”. 3. Close the HFS Software completely (including from the icon tray down the bottom right-hand side of the taskbar) 4. Start MSFS2020 and get into a flight using a default MSFS2020 aircraft 5. Once you are on the tarmac, start the HFS software from scratch and click on the MSFS2020 profile. Want to check out the review for the Xbox? See here ua-cam.com/video/54T30u6samY/v-deo.html See my follow up video on alternative software here ua-cam.com/video/hdz2FQDKOqs/v-deo.html
@@roadcyclist1 Hi there, this is not true, the software will automatically detect the game regardless of version. The new update will address these issues (Version 1.1.2.7)
This sensory add on, which falls into the budget category, is great for both VR and 2D pilots. Pleasantly surprised and the HF8 will be a regular part of my flights in the future.
Thanks for reply. I’m multi monitor and can’t afford frames loss. I was enamoured by your reactions when using this seat pad. I totally get the sensory add-on you speak about. I am going to take the plunge and get one. Will let you know my thoughts. Thank you again for you great work on your simhanger channel. Alex
Thanks for your (as usual) excellent review. I've had a buttkicker since the early days of FS. Just ordered one, should get it Tuesday. Can't wait to see some of your profiles. Cheers, Steve
Thanks for all the hard work you put into this channel Mark. Like others - I placed an order for the HF8 largely based on your review. So far its performing quite well. It will be interesting to see how the software develops to get the most out of the hardware. Simshaker could be another option if I manage to get it going. Cheers
I just received mine yesterday and am still “setting up”. So far so good. Their software is limited a little and I have looked at Simshaker software for extra fine tuning… perhaps you could do a tutorial video on how to setup in MSFS…? Love your videos and you have made my Flightsim experiences so much better with Alpha, Bravo and VR etc etc tutorials. Thank you.
I took the pad apart and molded it into my sim chair. Now the chair looks and feels like a normal chair. You'd never know it has vibrators in it if it was turned off.
Sorry for the late reply, anyway thanks for all you`ve done. Yes the HF8 is like giving a Cat a bath :)) The Support back in Queensland is outstanding. I`ll wait until it matures a bit. All the best! Stef
Hi Mark, great report. I went ahead and bought this product ($226 in the US). It is indeed a big immersion add-on. After a while you start recognizing little subtle differences. Like when the plane is working harder in an ascend, or under stress. I'm also trying to nuance using the different motors at different intensities for specific effects, to get even more feel out of it. Here is one thing I would challenge NextLevel Racing with: Different feeling for type of ground to taxi on (asphalt, grass, dirt).
Thanks Mark, an excellent video and explanation/demonstration of a new feature bringing immersion to a another level. This one will definitely be on my bucket list!
Oh no! Just literally a day ago I was - after having to wait for so long - able to order my Velocity One Yoke..and thought this should be it.. Now I have to learn that the new "project" is just around the corner.. Oh well, guess I have to start saving money again.. 😉 Btw: thank you for this informative (and persuasive) video!! 👍
@@davewills6121I could not disagree more! Particularly in VR, the ButtKicker greatly enhances immersion (provided you spent some moments to set it up correctly with the SimShaker for Aviators add-in).
This chair pad is very tempting to get. I like the way it looks as well. I wouldn't attach the control to my armrest as that is where I rest my arm but otherwise looks good.
I don’t know, but would guess the feedback from the SRS unit would be more expansive and pronounced as it uses transducers etc. closer to the Buttkicker experience, the attraction of the NLR pad is its simplicity and just doing the basics well. 👍
Enjoy watching yor channel. Thanks for the all experiences you share about fs2020. I bought mine few weeks back and enjoyimg it a lot. I have hooked it to my Xbox series S. Although i dont have much management of the actuators that the PC users have I still found it worth the few hundred bucks I spent. I also bought hdmi splitter box for it as i found HF8 to be more responsive than connecting direct to the audio output of the joystick or Xbox controller.
The HF8 arrived today and the software is a bit hit and miss but I got it working. Your tip about closing it from the taskbar was invaluable, thank you! Unfortunately it doesn't work with the Astro One which I was really looking forward too and there is no real change in helicopters between idle and full collective, which is a shame. It's a lot of fun though and a great addition to my cockpit! Wonderful in the Spitfire but could do with more rumble at idle! (UPDATE - Use the Sim Shaker for Aviators software to get the most of your HF8 haptic pad, it is essential!!)
It's my birthday today and my new HF8 arrived. Spent the last hr trying to get it running. Finally managed, so thought I'd try in VR but No!!! Can't seem to get it working at mo in vr but I'll keep trying lol
@SimHangerFS I restarted my pc and the HF8 worked fine with the VR. My initial impressions weren't great but as I tweaked the settings I realised its actually pretty good. The flaps and landing gear actually feel like they are creating drag and slowing the aircraft :)
well you've sold it to me , I only have 2D but a 3 x 32" 4K monitor set up .But I think it be great for Flight Sim and Car Racing games. Now I just have to sell it to the wife . My setups growing all the time just glad I have done it piece by piece as it now costs more than my old car lol
From the time of your video when you quote approx £223 to my looking to buy one today, the price has increased to approx £268. Over £40, I think I'll wait. Didn't take them long to see an opportunity.
Most people believe the feel of acceleration, of being pressed into their seats, comes from being pushed back by an increase in gravity, when in fact it comes from the accelerating aircraft pushing forward. I believe it's what's called "false gravity." It looks as if the HP8 takes full advantage of it.
OK, for me, it's the Crystal! I pre-ordered back in Jan, so I hope I'm in the early delivery queue. Next, vid please run on a 30 series Nvidia card. Cheers!
I have a ButtKicker and loved it! Have you tried the ButtKicker and HF8 together? I am thinking Hi Fidelity Sensory Input from the HF8 with the satisying thud of the BK. Great review especially for any BK owners - Thank you!
Great video, as always! Keep up the great work. You're an inspiration. I think you should try this haptic pad with a full motion simulator. What a ride that would be.
Funny to see how SRS seems to be upping it's monthly number of Emails towards me for trying their product instead of this one. The HF8 haptic is certainly bringing some fire under their seats ;)
Hi Mark. I liked the video and it will be interesting to see your future updates using this haptic feedback seat. Maybe Jets and airliners? Also with a large amount of wind and turbulence? You should arrange a visit with Steve VR Flight Sim Guy, as he has a similar seat but using transducers (U-Shake Haptic feedback seat pad by Sim Racing Studio) He did a review of this on 15 Dec 2022 if you haven't seen it. It would be very interesting to see a review from someone who had tried both. The HF8 Haptic Feedback Seat Pad from NextLevel Racing is a lot cheaper than the Sim Racing Studio seat pad. Maybe you will follow him by buying a DOF Reality H2 FULL MOTION RIG, which he currently raves about. An extra felling and another step towards reality maybe?
I'm also curious to hear about the comparison results. Ahead of time though, I can say that simracer Karl Gosling did a (verbal) review on the HF8 and he was pretty underwhelmed, stating that the effects are laggy and less powerful compared to the transducer-based U-Shake6. I can imagine that effect lag plays a much bigger role when racing, compared to flying an airplane.
I also bought HF8 aweek ago and couldn't find good setup HF level. after I saw this i fly very realistic and enjoy it . thank you very very much for this information.
Hey Mark, thanks for the video, interesting. I tried a competitor's product, similar to this, I think it was from somewhere over in eastern Europe, it was a friend's who let me have a try. I have also tried Buttkicker. The issue I had with the 'seat pad' was that it felt like the movement was being transmitted directly to points on my body, where the Buttkicker shook the entire chair, which I thought was far more realistic and immersive. Interested in hearing your thoughts about my observation if you wouldn't mind.
Valid comments, the Buttkicker is a very direct device, which if anything can overdo the vibration effect. Modern aircraft don’t shake and rattle that much arguably. The seat pad is far more subdued and subtle.
Can you imagine this along with a full motion seat (Yaw VR Pro, for example)? Either the immersion will be next level, or you will reach a point of diminishing returns.....(hopefully it would be the former).
Very informative and enjoyable video as always! Thanks, Mark. One question: have you tried to use the Haptic Seat Pad together with ButtKicker? I can imagine the two devices would work very well together: BK produces very credible engine vibrations and the kick at touchdown, and the Pad adds all those 3D sensations, as you called them…
Are you still pleased with the HF8? My Buttkicker amp has died on me and was thinking of getting one of these instead of an replacement amp. I loved your review of it.
I’m curious, if this would work in tandem with my haptic headset? I’m probably going to order in the next 10 minutes it anyway though. 😂 thanks for the your review. This company needs to be paying you!🤣
Just ordered it from Amazon! Gonna use it in conjunction with my transducers setup. When or if ever my Yaw2 arrives it will be a great enhancement for it. You’re costing me a fortune Mark lol! 😊
I bought it and am disappointed by the fact that I find it impossible to find any profiles online downloadable or even profile images for MSFS or any aircraft profiles for the HF8 other than cars.
I have an important question, If I had to buy a yoke and throttle quadrant for the first time and not have to end up collecting different brands etc, which make/model would you recommend so I can get the best one on my first purchase? Your videos are absolutely top notch!
Hi Mark, flown with you once before & very interested in this device. Excellent video for me. It's seems well worth buying? Slainte, Con. Thank You, Mark ❤
I wish I had bought this originally. I have had a ButtKicker for the last year or so, and barely use it as I find it finicky and noisy. The HaptiConnect software I just bought was not worth the $30.
@@SimHangerFS The problem is that now I want the HF8 ...but my office chair is not a good match for it. So, watching this video is going to cause me to buy a new gaming chair and the HF8. You're going to send me to the poor house! 😉
Thanks, Mark, that's a great review! Liked your 'wows!' when stalling etc, as that clearly conveys the immersion. Still, I can imagine that the impact of the HF8 is a bit bigger on GA planes since those planes are smaller and noisier. Did you try business jets or airliners too? I am curious to hear about your experience with such planes.
That's highly appreciated Mark! I have the Butkicker too, but as you mentioned, that's quite noisy, especially when other people in the house want to sleep 😀
Great setup! I am a big fan of your videos. I am also a buttkicker user.. This is my first time seeing your very tidy sim-pit.. Question.. How do you use rudder pedals while sitting on a chair with castor wheels?
Literaly bought 2 these Dayton Audio BST-1 50 watts high power pro tactile bass shaker about 20 mins before your video went live. Do you thing the bass shaker and next level pad could compement each other? Or would there be a conflict of software?
Pico is a good choice if you have strong Wi-Fi and a powerful GPU only. Reverb G2 is also a strong contender. At the other end of the price scale is Varjo Aero and the soon to be released Pimax Crystal.
Hi Mark, I just bought it since you suggested it here on the channel, great product, which gaming chair should we use for this as many others complaint the two front left and right virbators are uncomfortable on some chairs, mine included, so need to upgrade to a gaming chair which would fit this one perfectly so it can be resessed somehow into the chair and does not give too much pressure on your legs if you know what I mean :-) thanks as always for your great videos
I play all the sims or at least I have but right now I am into GT7.......not so much MSFS as of lately. I wonder If NLR will make it compatible with PS5. Might be a good idea? Any thoughts?
Hi Mark great review as per usual😊 just one question obviously there's vibration but is there less vibration into the floor as such than the butkicker? Thanks again and well done..
Yes, it is the one thing I love about the pad, you feel the vibration but the noise level is next to nothing! If I am in my simpit no one can hear it 😊
wow PS-2RM-150 motions systems to much money , so i will e getting the HPF8 . A QUESTION with msfs ww2 warplanes coming out , will it become a combat simulator , at the moment i dont buy warplanes ,however my favorite airplane is the hawker Hurrican . a Hp rb2 and Yoko flyer , sound with Quad Valve amps .
I had the buttkicker but it caused me some health issues with my prostate, as if I had done lot of kilometers on bicycle everyday with a hard bike saddle. Now I'm very distrustful with this kind of items. And honestly, the sensations that I had with the buttkicker have nothing to do with the real sensations I have when I'm piloting in real.
The beauty of this device is you can turn off individual vibrators to suit your needs. In the video you will note that I have configed the engines to only two in the lower back….far more comfortable. 👍
Hi all NLR have confirmed to me SU12 changed the way some of the telemetry data is used. Some may be having connection problems. A new beta is under test right now to correct these problems I was informed yesterday. Can’t get the software running?
Problems connecting. Try this..
1. Inside the HFS homepage, uncheck the "show installed" box
2. Navigate to the HFS Software settings and turn off "automatically detect current game”.
3. Close the HFS Software completely (including from the icon tray down the bottom right-hand side of the taskbar)
4. Start MSFS2020 and get into a flight using a default MSFS2020 aircraft
5. Once you are on the tarmac, start the HFS software from scratch and click on the MSFS2020 profile.
Want to check out the review for the Xbox? See here ua-cam.com/video/54T30u6samY/v-deo.html
See my follow up video on alternative software here ua-cam.com/video/hdz2FQDKOqs/v-deo.html
This does not work if you have the steam version of the game. The app does not recognize the steam version. Not good.
@@roadcyclist1 I am not aware of this, thanks for the heads up, use the freeware Simshaker software. Works very well.
@@roadcyclist1 I can’t put mine working. I bought after the review. I have MSFS2020 from Microsoft Store and doesn’t work. Anyone help?
@@roadcyclist1 checked with NLR. Does work with steam version. Make sure your connected to internet when first activating app.
@@roadcyclist1 Hi there, this is not true, the software will automatically detect the game regardless of version. The new update will address these issues (Version 1.1.2.7)
I’ve bought this within the first five minutes of watching your video I think your enthusiasm in the video done it for me
Me too!
I'm just about to place my order now
A year later and I just did the same thing. I'm going to use it with my Yaw VR motion simulator chair.
This sensory add on, which falls into the budget category, is great for both VR and 2D pilots. Pleasantly surprised and the HF8 will be a regular part of my flights in the future.
I have the Buttkicker, can not fly without it. So watching your review , excellent, there would be no advantage to use the two together?
@@michaelberthelot5038 technically there is no reason why you couldn’t. Best of both worlds 😊
Thanks for reply. I’m multi monitor and can’t afford frames loss. I was enamoured by your reactions when using this seat pad. I totally get the sensory add-on you speak about. I am going to take the plunge and get one. Will let you know my thoughts. Thank you again for you great work on your simhanger channel.
Alex
@@turbine.tv.1 look forward to your feedback! I’ll be putting out some profiles in the not too distant future. 👍
Thanks for your (as usual) excellent review. I've had a buttkicker since the early days of FS. Just ordered one, should get it Tuesday. Can't wait to see some of your profiles.
Cheers,
Steve
I've never seen you laugh so much Mark. How wonderful to see you having so much fun and you've convinced me to get one too. Thank you.
Thanks for all the hard work you put into this channel Mark. Like others - I placed an order for the HF8 largely based on your review. So far its performing quite well. It will be interesting to see how the software develops to get the most out of the hardware. Simshaker could be another option if I manage to get it going. Cheers
The aspect of sounds and touch slowly surface up a bit more adding to the immersion. Brilliant video! Gonna get this soon.
I just received mine yesterday and am still “setting up”. So far so good. Their software is limited a little and I have looked at Simshaker software for extra fine tuning… perhaps you could do a tutorial video on how to setup in MSFS…? Love your videos and you have made my Flightsim experiences so much better with Alpha, Bravo and VR etc etc tutorials. Thank you.
Thanks again Mark! I’d love to hear you about this seat with a F-18 or airliner.
Thanks for the video and fun reactions! Will wait for your XBOX video before ordering
Appears this is a must have with VR! Tks Mark. I enjoyed watching with your reactions! 😂 😂
😀
I took the pad apart and molded it into my sim chair. Now the chair looks and feels like a normal chair. You'd never know it has vibrators in it if it was turned off.
Sorry for the late reply, anyway thanks for all you`ve done. Yes the HF8 is like giving a Cat a bath :)) The Support back in Queensland is outstanding. I`ll wait until it matures a bit. All the best! Stef
Hi Mark, great report. I went ahead and bought this product ($226 in the US). It is indeed a big immersion add-on. After a while you start recognizing little subtle differences. Like when the plane is working harder in an ascend, or under stress. I'm also trying to nuance using the different motors at different intensities for specific effects, to get even more feel out of it. Here is one thing I would challenge NextLevel Racing with: Different feeling for type of ground to taxi on (asphalt, grass, dirt).
I will report later on using this with the freeware simshaker software. Quite impressive so far!
Enjoy your videos. A honest reaction video of the product. Will purchase.
Excellent stuff! ..looked fun and immersive ,good to see you enjoyed it 😀
Thanks for the review
You explained it quite well Mark.
Thanks Mark, an excellent video and explanation/demonstration of a new feature bringing immersion to a another level. This one will definitely be on my bucket list!
Same here!
Great video Mark, ordered one arriving Tuesday 😀
Oh no! Just literally a day ago I was - after having to wait for so long - able to order my Velocity One Yoke..and thought this should be it.. Now I have to learn that the new "project" is just around the corner.. Oh well, guess I have to start saving money again.. 😉
Btw: thank you for this informative (and persuasive) video!! 👍
Thank you for this, I just ordered one.
Thanks Mark! This is a very useful video. I appreciate your honesty and recommendation. Hopefully it will be available in my neck of the woods soon. 😊
Thank you, Mark, for this fun and enlightening review. I'm sold! I'll be purchasing my HF-8 _today_.
I really liked your review. Based on what you had to what I saw in others, I decided to by this one. THAKS VERRY MUCH& Keep them coming.
Can you imagine using this and buttkicker combined going forward, to capture the new 3D and old pronounced chunk or plonk?
They can work together with Simshaker 👍
This nonsense has been around for yrs, it just makes Simming creepy.
@@davewills6121I could not disagree more! Particularly in VR, the ButtKicker greatly enhances immersion (provided you spent some moments to set it up correctly with the SimShaker for Aviators add-in).
@@hanskrohn Same. Not sure what he is referring to.
Can thoroughly recommend.
Fantastic review thanks for sharing .
I made my own from a jet pad with electric motors ,I added airbladders inside the seat pad
Dave
Here’s the idea
ua-cam.com/video/g4R7hXvzsJQ/v-deo.html
Dave
This chair pad is very tempting to get. I like the way it looks as well. I wouldn't attach the control to my armrest as that is where I rest my arm but otherwise looks good.
Great review Mark, especially your first reactions! I wonder how this would compare to my SRS Haptic seat. 🤔
I don’t know, but would guess the feedback from the SRS unit would be more expansive and pronounced as it uses transducers etc. closer to the Buttkicker experience, the attraction of the NLR pad is its simplicity and just doing the basics well. 👍
Thanks Mark, I have been thinking about a purchase, your review has been helpful in my decision.
Great video thanks! Will wait till they config for DCS
Great video SimHanger! Couldn’t help laughing at your opening scene, all that chair needs is some wings :) great review.
Great review, keep up the good work
Enjoy watching yor channel. Thanks for the all experiences you share about fs2020.
I bought mine few weeks back and enjoyimg it a lot. I have hooked it to my Xbox series S. Although i dont have much management of the actuators that the PC users have I still found it worth the few hundred bucks I spent. I also bought hdmi splitter box for it as i found HF8 to be more responsive than connecting direct to the audio output of the joystick or Xbox controller.
Thanks Mark,
Your excellent demonstration makes me order the HF8 today!
Yeah....The next haptic challenge will be the wind in the solo for instance so i am testing my leaf blower in msfs....Thanks again Mark!!
😂 brilliant!
Not a bad idea tbh, I actually did something similar and gives a ton of immersion! :)
The HF8 arrived today and the software is a bit hit and miss but I got it working. Your tip about closing it from the taskbar was invaluable, thank you! Unfortunately it doesn't work with the Astro One which I was really looking forward too and there is no real change in helicopters between idle and full collective, which is a shame. It's a lot of fun though and a great addition to my cockpit! Wonderful in the Spitfire but could do with more rumble at idle! (UPDATE - Use the Sim Shaker for Aviators software to get the most of your HF8 haptic pad, it is essential!!)
Always Educational and Informative and Fun these videos Thank You
It's my birthday today and my new HF8 arrived. Spent the last hr trying to get it running. Finally managed, so thought I'd try in VR but No!!! Can't seem to get it working at mo in vr but I'll keep trying lol
Happy Birthday 🎂. Should work in VR no problem, check your sound source in Windows.
@SimHangerFS I restarted my pc and the HF8 worked fine with the VR. My initial impressions weren't great but as I tweaked the settings I realised its actually pretty good. The flaps and landing gear actually feel like they are creating drag and slowing the aircraft :)
Excellent video as always. I Loved the flight and the controls are the velocity one I think? But the new force feedback system is sweet❤
Controls on show were the Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo.
Thanks for testing the airliners! :) :) :) - seriously though - good stuff!!! love it!!!
My Woojer West keeps doing the Job for almost 3 years 😊 but i realy miss a Buttkicker 😂
Very tempting, pricing on this seems reasonable, especially compared to its competitors. I have seen similar products that are twice as much.
Thank you.
well you've sold it to me , I only have 2D but a 3 x 32" 4K monitor set up .But I think it be great for Flight Sim and Car Racing games. Now I just have to sell it to the wife . My setups growing all the time just glad I have done it piece by piece as it now costs more than my old car lol
😂 this is not an inexpensive hobby!
Great video. Looks really interesting. I'm wondering if you could try it in some turbulence I would love to see what that is like.
Great and informative video man, and very honest also. Thankyou.
Pricey but will consider if it works in ETS; ATS; and F1 2022 eh! Thanks Mark! Stay well!
Already got a Jetseat.
Wow, Mark. What a great video. I see I need to make sure I'm a good boy so that Santa keeps me in mind for Christmas.
😂
Thanks Mark another great video and explanation with your honest opinion
Thanks 👍
I think my Buttkicker adds a lot but this looks much better. Thanks for a great review.
You can use them both together!
The Winner Takes It All, thank you !
From the time of your video when you quote approx £223 to my looking to buy one today, the price has increased to approx £268. Over £40, I think I'll wait. Didn't take them long to see an opportunity.
Enjoyed your review planning on getting one.
Most people believe the feel of acceleration, of being pressed into their seats, comes from being pushed back by an increase in gravity, when in fact it comes from the accelerating aircraft pushing forward. I believe it's what's called "false gravity." It looks as if the HP8 takes full advantage of it.
Good Stuff Mark. Very interesting.
OK, for me, it's the Crystal! I pre-ordered back in Jan, so I hope I'm in the early delivery queue. Next, vid please run on a 30 series Nvidia card. Cheers!
I have a ButtKicker and loved it! Have you tried the ButtKicker and HF8 together? I am thinking Hi Fidelity Sensory Input from the HF8 with the satisying thud of the BK. Great review especially for any BK owners - Thank you!
Great video, as always! Keep up the great work. You're an inspiration.
I think you should try this haptic pad with a full motion simulator. What a ride that would be.
On order! Coming soon. 😊
@@SimHangerFS
Funny to see how SRS seems to be upping it's monthly number of Emails towards me for trying their product instead of this one. The HF8 haptic is certainly bringing some fire under their seats ;)
Hi Mark. I liked the video and it will be interesting to see your future updates using this haptic feedback seat. Maybe Jets and airliners? Also with a large amount of wind and turbulence?
You should arrange a visit with Steve VR Flight Sim Guy, as he has a similar seat but using transducers (U-Shake Haptic feedback seat pad by Sim Racing Studio) He did a review of this on 15 Dec 2022 if you haven't seen it. It would be very interesting to see a review from someone who had tried both.
The HF8 Haptic Feedback Seat Pad from NextLevel Racing is a lot cheaper than the Sim Racing Studio seat pad.
Maybe you will follow him by buying a DOF Reality H2 FULL MOTION RIG, which he currently raves about. An extra felling and another step towards reality maybe?
Hi Peter, motion rig review to follow as soon as mine arrives. 😊
I'm also curious to hear about the comparison results. Ahead of time though, I can say that simracer Karl Gosling did a (verbal) review on the HF8 and he was pretty underwhelmed, stating that the effects are laggy and less powerful compared to the transducer-based U-Shake6. I can imagine that effect lag plays a much bigger role when racing, compared to flying an airplane.
I also bought HF8 aweek ago and couldn't find good setup HF level.
after I saw this i fly very realistic and enjoy it .
thank you very very much for this information.
Hey Mark, thanks for the video, interesting. I tried a competitor's product, similar to this, I think it was from somewhere over in eastern Europe, it was a friend's who let me have a try. I have also tried Buttkicker. The issue I had with the 'seat pad' was that it felt like the movement was being transmitted directly to points on my body, where the Buttkicker shook the entire chair, which I thought was far more realistic and immersive. Interested in hearing your thoughts about my observation if you wouldn't mind.
Valid comments, the Buttkicker is a very direct device, which if anything can overdo the vibration effect. Modern aircraft don’t shake and rattle that much arguably. The seat pad is far more subdued and subtle.
Thanks Mark. For the price, you shouldn't have to "supply" your own item to secure the controler down.
Can you imagine this along with a full motion seat (Yaw VR Pro, for example)? Either the immersion will be next level, or you will reach a point of diminishing returns.....(hopefully it would be the former).
I’ll know the answer soon…DOF Reality motion rig on order!
I have a motion platform, this and a BK FE with a 1000 watt amp. It’s amazing.
Bought one yesterday.
Ok but I just want a force feedback flightstick/yoke
how about showing us HOW to set it up for use with msfs2020 like how use a profile and how to activate the profile
Make it work with DCS and you have a buyer.
Hi there, we hear you! Stay tuned for the end of May!
Why don't you buy the new revision of the Honeycomb Alpha XPC? It has one big advantage over the old model, and a few nice little things.
What advantage?
Bet that will sort your muscle tension out, that is one fancy massage chair..... I want one...... 🙂
🤣
Very informative and enjoyable video as always! Thanks, Mark. One question: have you tried to use the Haptic Seat Pad together with ButtKicker? I can imagine the two devices would work very well together: BK produces very credible engine vibrations and the kick at touchdown, and the Pad adds all those 3D sensations, as you called them…
No not yet, but it is doable and a colleague on discord has done just that!
Are you still pleased with the HF8? My Buttkicker amp has died on me and was thinking of getting one of these instead of an replacement amp. I loved your review of it.
Config is basic, but functional. Currently experimenting with SimShaker software.
i got microsoft fs as only software but on 2020 cant find it
My next investment,
I’m curious, if this would work in tandem with my haptic headset? I’m probably going to order in the next 10 minutes it anyway though. 😂 thanks for the your review. This company needs to be paying you!🤣
Great option! I use 4 tactile transducers and this may be a terrific addon to create full spectrum vibes, especially with FSRealistic👍
I’m using it with FSRealistic now!
Have similar, which I like, as I can keep the comfort of my current seat.
Just ordered it from Amazon! Gonna use it in conjunction with my transducers setup. When or if ever my Yaw2 arrives it will be a great enhancement for it. You’re costing me a fortune Mark lol! 😊
@@kennykanada Which amazon did you buy from because amazon uk are about 100 euro more expensive that buying from next level themselfs
I received it in under 24 hours!! Gotta love Amazon. But after downloading their software, it doesn’t work. It doesn’t recognize or activate MSFS 😢
I bought it and am disappointed by the fact that I find it impossible to find any profiles online downloadable or even profile images for MSFS or any aircraft profiles for the HF8 other than cars.
Agreed. Profiles from me coming up in the not too distant future 👍
I have an important question, If I had to buy a yoke and throttle quadrant for the first time and not have to end up collecting different brands etc, which make/model would you recommend so I can get the best one on my first purchase? Your videos are absolutely top notch!
Hi Mark, flown with you once before & very interested in this device. Excellent video for me. It's seems well worth buying? Slainte, Con. Thank You, Mark ❤
You have the look and body of a ace aggressive fighter pilot. How is that possible?
Works great in DCS as well 😄
Oh…fantastic!
Thanks for the confirmation. I'm ordering one now 😉
I wish I had bought this originally. I have had a ButtKicker for the last year or so, and barely use it as I find it finicky and noisy. The HaptiConnect software I just bought was not worth the $30.
I found myself not using the Buttkicker as well due to noise issues. Love this haptic pad, so quiet 😊
@@SimHangerFS The problem is that now I want the HF8 ...but my office chair is not a good match for it. So, watching this video is going to cause me to buy a new gaming chair and the HF8. You're going to send me to the poor house! 😉
can't get the HF8 to work with msfs . works in other sim games like Dirt 2
have tryed the future beta with no luck . hopefully soon
Thanks, Mark, that's a great review! Liked your 'wows!' when stalling etc, as that clearly conveys the immersion. Still, I can imagine that the impact of the HF8 is a bit bigger on GA planes since those planes are smaller and noisier. Did you try business jets or airliners too? I am curious to hear about your experience with such planes.
Not yet fully tested…but that will be coming up in a future video.
That's highly appreciated Mark! I have the Butkicker too, but as you mentioned, that's quite noisy, especially when other people in the house want to sleep 😀
Mark what version of GT omega chair did you use please.
I cant locate the Xplane Simconnect files ?? can you locate for me ? URL
Can you increase the intensity of the vibrations on landing? That and take-off, is when you really feel vibrations in RL.
Yes you can activate all spinners and dial it up to 100%. Still not as much as a Buttkicker though, it is a different experience. 👍
Can you feel the plane landing when in vr?
Sim shaker and SSA should improve things in terms of specific events flaps, gear and the like.
Thanks for the vid Mark.
Yes they do
I wonder how well this works in DCS, Star Citizen and/or ACC. nvm.. it only supports ACC. Sad but there are very few software titles supported.
Mark, I'm like you in that I fly almost 100% in VR. I use an Oculus 2. Are there any FPS or performance hits with this seat pad, especially in VR?
@@riddle609 none at all. It runs external to the sim reading the telemetry data.
Great setup!
I am a big fan of your videos.
I am also a buttkicker user..
This is my first time seeing your very tidy sim-pit..
Question.. How do you use rudder pedals while sitting on a chair with castor wheels?
The chair is on a carpet and has wide castor wheels….it doesn’t move at all 😊
Literaly bought 2 these Dayton Audio BST-1 50 watts high power pro tactile bass shaker about 20 mins before your video went live. Do you thing the bass shaker and next level pad could compement each other? Or would there be a conflict of software?
They use a difference data point…audio and usb so should work together 😊
Is the Pico the go to VR headset for simulators these days?
Pico is a good choice if you have strong Wi-Fi and a powerful GPU only. Reverb G2 is also a strong contender. At the other end of the price scale is Varjo Aero and the soon to be released Pimax Crystal.
Hi Mark. Thank you for the information. Can I ask, did you notice any perceptible FPS loss? Thanks in advance.
No I didn’t notice any impact.
Hi Mark, I just bought it since you suggested it here on the channel, great product, which gaming chair should we use for this as many others complaint the two front left and right virbators are uncomfortable on some chairs, mine included, so need to upgrade to a gaming chair which would fit this one perfectly so it can be resessed somehow into the chair and does not give too much pressure on your legs if you know what I mean :-) thanks as always for your great videos
Recommend a chair that does not have ‘’turned up edges’’ on the seat and a foam based seat.
I play all the sims or at least I have but right now I am into GT7.......not so much MSFS as of lately. I wonder If NLR will make it compatible with PS5. Might be a good idea? Any thoughts?
Not sure, but would be great if it did!
@@SimHangerFS I was about to delete my comment, found out it does work with play station.
Hi Mark great review as per usual😊 just one question obviously there's vibration but is there less vibration into the floor as such than the butkicker?
Thanks again and well done..
Yes, it is the one thing I love about the pad, you feel the vibration but the noise level is next to nothing! If I am in my simpit no one can hear it 😊
@@SimHangerFS thank you 😊
wow PS-2RM-150 motions systems to much money , so i will e getting the HPF8 . A QUESTION with msfs ww2 warplanes coming out , will it become a combat simulator , at the moment i dont buy warplanes ,however my favorite airplane is the hawker Hurrican . a Hp rb2 and Yoko flyer , sound with Quad Valve amps .
No it will not be a combat simulator and no weapons are available.
I had the buttkicker but it caused me some health issues with my prostate, as if I had done lot of kilometers on bicycle everyday with a hard bike saddle. Now I'm very distrustful with this kind of items. And honestly, the sensations that I had with the buttkicker have nothing to do with the real sensations I have when I'm piloting in real.
The beauty of this device is you can turn off individual vibrators to suit your needs. In the video you will note that I have configed the engines to only two in the lower back….far more comfortable. 👍