@@ChrisCrosswow Read the books and play old warcraft lol. He was impatient, egoistic and disrespectful. I actually liked him after he became a bad guy more. He was insufferable before.
I would love a graphic update of the original but I didn't want them to make the game litteraly unplayable. And putting a high price on it is just insane.
It is called "false advertising", it is when a salesman lies about the product in order to sell more. It is normaly illegal, but todays legalsystem hasn't figured out what the internet is yet.
I know right, I 100% blame the legal system because when there’s an unethical way of getting rich it’s guaranteed that there’s someone exploiting it. The legal system is slow as molasses, or someone is taking kickbacks.
I have to disagree. The legal system is in place and is being used for this type of false advertising. Who will bring a suit? Is there a disclaimer in the products Terms of Service? Is there a forum selection clause that brings it to a court where this type of litigation is likely to lose. These are the questions that need to be asked.
The death of the modding scene is the saddest part to me. There were so many treasures on there that are just completely gone because Blizzard just had to force a half-assed re-release with a horrible terms of agreement. It's honestly a tragedy.
The realization that the concept of DOTA didn't belong to Blizzard, but the creative minds who made it (Icefrog) had them throw a temper tantrum and corrupt themselves. Dude, it's actually so insane. Imagine if I created an art piece in Photoshop and suddenly Adobe comes and says "but but but you used MY TOOL TO DO IT! THIS IS MINE NOW!!!! MIIIIINE"
@@ThornskadeThat's bullshit. Blizzard is a joke of a company now, but let's not lie and let's not pretend that Valve didn't outright steal Blizzard's intellectual property and get away with it. I'm talking about Warcraft 3 assets like hero models and lore which were made by Blizzard, and not by Icefrog. Dota 2 blatantly rips off WC3 models and concepts. It's even less subtle than these shitty mobile games that rip off classics to catch your eye in the app stores. Blizzard never claimed to own the concept behind DotA - did they ever sue League of Legends? No. Valve could have developed their own aesthetic, come up with their own heroes and leave the same design created by Icefrog and other modders and it would've been fine. But no, they went so far as to purposefully emulate quirks of WC3 engine to make DotA 2 more similar to the original. There's no way in which this isn't complete scumbaggery.
@@zlosliwa_menda Lol, do you know how many games ripped off the original Doom in that exact same way? Code is not protected by IP laws in this sense. This is not scumbaggery and if it were it would really stifle the industry.
nonoo you dont understand. there are people, who have to be able to explain, that THEY DESERVE that money forthe creation of 4+ hours of new cutscenes AND THAN they wont do it.
Meanwhile on Pirate bay: GLORIOUS OG Warcraft 3 Complete edition with thousands of working maps. YEah ... Blizzard literally put a product that infinitely worse than actual pirated game from almost 2 decades ago!!!
"Somewhere in the Arathi Highlands, Thrall, the young warchief of the orcish Horde, wakes from his troubling dream." "Then he went back to sleep." DEFEAT!
i started playing wow about 1.5 years ago, althrough it was on private server. Legion was the first server i played for couple of months untill i switched to wotlk. And to this day, wrath is still the best game i've ever played even though i didn't play it in it's retail games. So no, it's not really nostalgia at all... Legion wasn't bad, it had plenty of features, it just didn't have 'soul' as older ones did
Only if you're focused on AAA companies like Blizzard and Bethesda. Money corrupted them like the Helm of Domination. If you want to play fresh and good games, you'll have to look for other companies like CD Project, which so far despite their success still deliver great games, or even better look for smaller so called indie developer. Expect simpler graphics like in the original WC3 with Gameplay that is actually worth playing.
Old Blizzard is absolutely responsible for Warcraft III Reforged and all the controversy of the Blizzard of today, they sold their soul, their essence and their customers to Activision... all for money... Blizzard was just as greedy as any other gaming company... but much like Apple, they made you feel like they cared for you...
League Skin Music "they sold their soul, their essence and their customers to Activision..." Or, y'know, Activision went to their parent company and made a deal with _them,_ forcing Blizzard to be merged with them against their(the workers at Blizzard's) will. I literally did a 30 second search of "Activision Blizzard history" and found that out.
I feel bad for the Warcraft multiplayer scene, those guys played the game for a decade and that's how Blizzard thanks their support. I thought about downloading the "shareware" version to see what's up with it, but after some thinking I realized it's not even worth the time.
It's such a shocking level of disregard and indifference, toward a game which has specifically created a lot of wealth and goodwill toward Blizzard in particular. They honored SC1 to an extreme degree with HD, probably one of the most faithful remakes I've ever seen aside from Spyro Trilogy or Crash. But this game doesn't deserve that apparently. There was nobody left at Blizzard itself who even cared enough to render some faithful decent looking character models in their FREE TIME? Fans would do this work FREE OF CHARGE for each other but Billionaire Blizzard can't spend some of that WoW money to do some in-house work, instead they add fucking mecha-gnomes to WoW, what a bunch of morons.
@@James11111 No doubt the original WC3 is still one of the best games of all time. But I would advise anyone who's interested to not buy in on Battlenet. The team that made the game is gone anyway so there's no point in giving money to Lizzard.
Truth be told, a lot of the models WOULD look a lot better if the game actually had proper lighting to compliment their design. Case and point, check out the Warcraft Reforged in Unreal Engine videos, where a guy added some of the models into that engine. They look exceptionally good there. However, the big lack of animations (especially portrait ones) really pull things back. Had they made the game on a completely new engine, they would've had far less restrictions, quite possibly far less bugs and would also look over all a lot better. The only con would be a lack of cross-play, but nobody asked for that to begin with and older maps for the most part break or look terrible in Reforged, so it's a waste there too
I think that's what happened to the Prince of Persia games and they ran fine on current gen. Literally all Warcraft needed was a facelift and they had some other company do it and blizzard took the credit for it.
Yeah it has that modern, yet cheap touch. Like graphics that would maybe look great for Blizzard pre-2010, because this shit looks worse than StarCraft 2
Most of their games have that polish. That makes this disaster even more surprising cuz they did polish before and they were succusful when the game came out. They deserve the low scores it got and the outrage. Edit. Took out recent
@@magicmanscott40k recent games? could you kindly explain me your definition of recent? Overwatch came out 4 years ago and last version update if im correct was like 10 months ago. even though it is polished game it isn't BY ANY MEANS recent game lmao
madeitsupreme_ its not like blizzard comes out with a new game every year. Calling overwatch recent is still fine because its pretty much one of the newest gamed they made compared to other companies that keep coming with new games every year
3:12 "When the art was so...low quality..." Excuse me? I loved the old art style. It has its own flavor. The current art style is a lifeless copy of the graphics other games have. Can't believe I'll say this because I've always been a Blizzard fan since the 90s, but Blizzard sucks so bad!!!
I mean sure, the original graphics are dated, but you shouldn't legally be allowed to call them low quality when Reforged looks like a mobile game and a sketchy MMO banner ad had a lovechild in the uncanny valley
@Vasian Vasianich "They're better than the SC2 ones." Two issues with that sentence A.Considering the differences in the lighting's quality (and a few animations), it's questionable. B.They better be a whole league above a game that originally came out almost 8 years ago. They're not.
They dont want to jepordize their partnership with China. Blizzard has officially turned evil, and Im not even trying to sound melodramatic or funny. They literally have sacreficed the freedom and democracy of others in order to gain profit. You think im exaggerating? This is exactly how China operates when they fund nations around the world (especially in Africa and Latin America), they fund your infrastructure, but in return you are expected to comply with CCP policies, which includes renouncing Taiwan and HK, until these two no longer have any friends or allies to stop China from taking them over. Blizzard, you are not just greedy, you are evil.
fucking blizzard, i am chinese, but why banned taiwan as word, they are customer too! And fucking game should never involved anything about politics. Shame on them.
@@fredrikengstrom2107 Chinese here, don't blame us for things that blizzard did to themselves. Taiwan isn't a banned word in China so this is blizzard being a dumbass.
considering that they also fucks the classic edition it's more like ordering Mercedes, turned into wheelchair, and then realized that your current rides is downgraded into 1:32 bicycle toy
You hear about this awesome, 67 corvette or some shit. All these amazing features, totally modernized interior with leather seats. Backup camera, XM radio, bluetooth, and yet it's a 67 corvette! Then you get a car with rust all over it. The wheels are about to bust off. The brake pads are grinding on day one. It feels like it hasn't been driven since 1968. All of those modern features are nowhere to be found, although at least it has an aux port. The leather is cracked, old, or gone altogether. What does the salesman tell you? "But look at the beautiful paint job! It's brand new! $30,000 is such a steal!" And the dealership didn't even do the paintjob, they bought it like that.
@@arawn1061 How do China force them to remove an English line? If the Chinese locolizer doesn't like a voice line, they simply dub it into something else. If Chinese version's not allowed to have some graphic effect, they censor it on their own server. No harm done to you. Only western political correct bullshit can cause companies to kneel.
3:25 "You really didn't know what was happening a lot of the time." Yo, WC3 was one of the most readable RTS games due to that aesthetic and the vivid colors on the units
I couldn't tell what was going on most of the time unless I played elves. I play a lot to rts, even the older ones and I found all of them easier to tell what's going on. One thing I'll give Warcraft is it defiantly had the best story mode of any rts I played. Well it used to.
"And their custom games gave rise to new genres" - he said, unable to stifle the satisfied laughter because he knew that this time around, they'll have copyright to every single piece of that creativity and won't miss a single penny of potential revenue without even needing to give credit to the author. Probably not even a thank you. It's the Leeroy Jenkins story all over again, but horrifically evolved.
@Drake ICN It is amazing. It always fascinates me how passionate modders and creators are rarely ever approached. Bethesda (Fallout/Elder Scrolls), Blizzard, Creative Assembly (Total War) could profit massively from hiring some of the most incredible modders in their game communities. Story or functionality-wise. What the hell is going on? Do they hate money? or have no vision?
Blizzard: Activision... It can't be Activision: I've returned to bring your devs back into the fold. Though you failed the shareholders before, you will now serve us once again. Blizzard: No... we are free! Activision: Stupid, pitiful creature. I am the greed in your heart. I am the avarice of your thoughts. I alone empowered you to bring disappointment to this world, and by the endless unsustainable growth, you shall!
This is the excuse i hear the most: It's not Blizzard, it's all Activisions fault. Are you guys really sure about that? Any insider information to support this claim? People act like a PUBLISHER is calling ALL the shots at Blizzard, wich is ridiculous.
@@thundageon5962 They have their issues as well but yeah, no triple A company has their hands clean of blood, lol. As far as US companies Riot probably has the best potential for a new dev looking to make it big.
Mohammed Ahmed nintendo is kinda hard considering a majority of titles are created by the japanese branch, I guess it would be cool having a chance to program a zelda but, if he is a creative type that wants to create his own stories, than nintendo might be weird thing to go for idk if they have any american first party developers but sony does honestly, I wouldn’t focus on going too big nowadays. what i mean is: I wouldn’t focus on going for a big triple A company like EA or Sega, for example. If your game is interesting and good, there is always the chance of a youtuber picking it up to film and bringing attention. look at doki doki literature club, the game is done on a bare bones engine but was one of the biggest games of 2017 and had really creative moments of ingenuousness by the devs.
I was born in '92, played WC1 when I was too young to remember and from there I played almost all the blizz games at least once. Now, looking at things, I feel old... and sad.
I'm born in 1991 and I never played Warcraft 1-2 but I do played Warcraft 3 when it still on my big old pc Until I left it for a while before I reinstall it's pirated version on that pc
It kinda makes sense. He was being corrupted by the sword and going mad. Still they worked arthas a bunch of times in wow and to see them mess up something they did a bunch of times before is just lazy to me.
Peon: Ready to work. 2002: Warcraft 3, Best RTS game of the century. 2020: Warcraft 3 Reforged, best meme of the century. Peasant: That's it, I'm dead.
It was more because ever since they partnered with Activision we've had: WoW: BFA (Sorry) Diablo Immortal (We screwed up, we will be better) Hong Kong scandal (It wont happen again, just give us one more chance!) Warcraft Reforgd (Thats it, Im dead). Lmao, yep Blizzard, three strikes youre out.
unknowning unknown matter of opinion. While I respect AoE, it didn’t even come close to what War3 accomplished for the video game industry. RoC and TFT are absolute masterpieces
This is what happens at a lot of software companies in general, not just video game studios. Business people (marketing, finance) who are interested in more profits above anything else force the companies to make decisions that ruin the user experience, causing less profits in the end. Ironic, but it happened in every single company I worked in to some extent.
@@Pay2pray You don't even know how right you are. The new guy coming in that has never worked in sales or has any experience but a diploma and demands to change things customers liked. Telling the guy it will be bad. He does not listen. So what happens next? Things are changed, regular customers don't like it and leave. New customers aren't coming. The place goes bankrupt. Very cool. This shit is ruining everything.
I still find it annoying that people keep saying Blizzard. Blizzard died years ago. Everything from then on is Activision and I hate how easily it is for them to hide their brand name behind another.
@@b.d.a.8719 Lol I think that proves more than anything that it's simply a huge act of incompetence. They are just legitimately bad developers and need a new job.
@@b.d.a.8719 I think it makes perfect sense, no one in the MMO world right now says WoW is the best MMO anymore or deserves the top spot for most played MMO. So why is it making so much money? Nostalgia and the fact people invested for a decade or more on that one game, they don't want to switch and feel they have to stick with it. Legacy and name go a long way, look at Pokemon, their recent games are regarded by most as their worst mainline entries since quite some time, yet it's sold like hotcakes simply because it's Pokemon. Same with Blizzard games. People simply don't wanna admit their childhood turned to shit.
@@b.d.a.8719 activision-blizz is the opposite of capitalism. The entire video game and entertainment industry is a federally controlled monopoly. Companies only get big and rich because of lack of competition that would take their revenue with a better product.
Blizzard is sadly already gone. Bethesda will sign its oficial death when they fuck up TS. Worst part is that people who fucked up this companies did it willingly and already got their money.
The funniest part to me of all this: I was in the deep throes of hate for Blizzard in 2018 as I was still playing BFA and disgusted at the disappointment I felt for it. When I saw W3 Reforged stratholm cutscene, I knew that the final game wouldn't look like that. Blizzard didn't let my expectations down this time, finally. I was on the winning side of history and did not invest any money whatsoever into this disgrace.
BFA was a disgusting turd, especially when things were looking up with Legion. Then Blizzard pulled this shit. Then they banned a friend of mine on bullshit charges of using a "dll injector" because of a Warden false positive (he apparently had an unofficial launcher for Blade and Soul running that a lot of people use due to technical issues with the official one). Then they stonewalled him and upheld that bullshit ban. Then they threatened to close his account if he kept appeaing. That was it for me.
The illidan vs Arthas scene makes me genuinely upset because they had a chance to animate what the fight was supposed to be like according to the story boards but they didn't
This is true. It's pointless to even be angry at this behavior. Whether business or government or anything. The greedy get in and fleece the lambs. There will always be lambs. It will never change.
@G C What's wrong with supporting china? hmm let's see: Social Credit score, Communism, the CCP (now somehow scarier than the KGB), zero freedom of speech, a xenophobic culture that is on it's 3rd or 4th genocide, mass censorship, 24/7 survelliance with ai assisted facial recognition tied to one of the most invasive databases ever, zero privacy (can't even poop without the cameras watching), no freedom, laws that only benefit the state, police that know more about you than you know about yourself, terrible working conditions and worker rights, a society that looks like it was ripped from George Orwell's 1984 dystopian sci fi novel. Need I go on?
G C I'm not an us citizen nor do i live there. It's certainly corrupt to a degree, has racial issues, some surveillance and questionable working conditions. Still it's nowhere near China, where corruption might as well be taught in school for how widespread it is, if only teachers were allowed to teach the truth instead of government-approved patriotic bs and lies. (I should know, I met a former chinese teacher) And sure, even France chooses what is taught in school, but teachers aren't banned from talking about certain subjects. And it's not like you'll be able to find more about it online with all the censorship there is. Sure there are countries who spy on their citizens, but not like that, not like China does. It truly is a totalitarian regime who actually committed genocide and oppressed neighboring countries. Comparing that to the US would be like comparing a tank to a machine gun in terms of military power. They are both dangerous, but the tank is way scarier.
Also, saying "but this country is no better" is such a non-argument that you might as well say "but the other kids do it". And assuming that the problem we have with China is due to xenophobia or racism is offensive and, frankly, quite ironic. But the topic isn't china or the us, it's war3 reforged being bad and the link with blizzard selling out for their chinese investors. My only problem is pandering to another country for money, especially on the topic of Taiwan.
This is BY FAR the best video about Warcraft Reforged I have ever seen. No long rant, just real people talking about all of the problems, people involved in a game killed for no reason.
what is with all these massive gaming companies who had the complete love and adoration of their fans doing all these heinous and dubiously legal things lately?
They want to emulate the sports game/ FPS mode.Rehash the same game every year and make hundreds of millions.This process can't really be applied to other types of games..hence the rise of these abominations.
@@CopperGears Jeffrey Epstein? Dangerous guy? Hard to be dangerous when you're a corpse. If you want to be worried about horrific immoral things staring us collectivley right in the face nobody really cares about and will never be fixed focus more on the guys who murdered him.
"We wanted to make the classic but like how we'd make it today" you know, like a mobile game. A shitty mobile game wth a Chrome-ased menu, a shitty mobile game with 30GB of shitty graphics asset updates. A shitty mobile game of which the Chrome-based menu eats your desktop PC's memory. "Because we used to make a great game, but these days we only have one coder locked in our basement and we only let him out to work on a mobile game", you know, like a shitty mobile game...
@@Tom-hc1ql I think LotV campaign sucked ass, I think the multiplayer in SC2 is the best it's ever been. The pro matches are the best they've ever been too. When Serral won WCS almost every game of the entire BlizzCon part was amazing. But yes I do agree Blizzard has not made anything good in a long time.
@@NGRevenant it was the most played expac in wow history. The tip of the spear. Apart from how Frostmourne was destroyed the story was good. May be Arthas did won back then, and everyone is just delusional and there was no deus ex machine aka Tirion jumping 3 meters high.
Everybody's making fun of wc3 reforged but really, as people like me who spend a huge amount of time of their childhood playing with friends and random strangers, enjoying the amazing story and incredible custom games, I'm deeply sadden and heartbroken by it
I also played warcraft 3 long ago before my pc goes formatted for nth time(just before 2010) where in 2010, I started new life where I make a Mega-crossover project that mixes everything(with some exceptions) with a twist: inclusion of RL conspiracy theories(or at least so-called ones) to make it's scifi and supernatural elements authentic among other things. And the disaster of Warcraft 3 reforged makes me secured Pirated copy of Warcraft 3 to my pc to play it once more(without worrying over update into reforged)
@@Marinealver Yeah I thought EA ruined Red Alert 3. But not to think RA3 was absolute classic compared to this. At least it was playable, and fun. It felt like they actually put some hard work to make the game. But Reforged feels like, I don't know just, they just copied some models and pasted into game without even checking the bugs. Felt like they didn't even tried to play themselves.
I genuinely had a heartfelt moment throughout this, it was like experiencing the cycles of death: grief, rage, despair, and then finally acceptance. As a person who played wc3 ever since I was a child, experiencing the campaign and became genuinely immersed into the world and lore, then entered the DOTA and custom games and sank hours upon hours - then playing starcraft then diablo then World of Warcraft. My entire childhood had blizzard games in it. Now seeing all the train wrecks, is like seeing a best friend hitting hard times and crashing even further. It's finally dead. Only it's rotting corpse is being beaten and its memory humiliated so Activison can try to get as many eyes they can get while Blizzard's decomposing corpse still has meat on its bones. But at least we can all finally have a peace of mind, knowing our old friend has finally died. Though his body is being desecrated, we know his soul lives on - painlessly and free. Fuck this gay earth.
lol do you know what people said to me on blizzard forums, some say "Why do you care if blizzard own the maps. They have the right to own it." and I was like b*tch for real? That's why I only will re-edit the campaign maps and melee maps for fun but they didn't add the custom campaign and singleplayer custom maps that you can play with the AI with cheats or no cheats.
"you hereby assign to Blizzard all of your rights, title, and interest in and to all Custom Games, including but not limited to any copyrights in the content of any Custom Games. If for any reason you are prevented or restricted from assigning any rights in the Custom Games to Blizzard, you grant to Blizzard an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide, unconditional, royalty free, irrevocable license enabling Blizzard to fully exploit the Custom Games (or any component thereof) for any purpose and in any manner whatsoever." Its absolutely absurd, they could not stop at protecting their own assets and taking a licensing agreement for any created maps. :/
People like you are hilariously misinformed. The map editor has always stated that anything you make belongs to them. That was their entire case when Valve was making Dota 2, though they decided to settle out of court. There are some valid complaints with the game, but this here is just reaching, people with terrible memories, or just bandwagoning.
When I'm in the middle of the night elf campaign then suddenly update hits lose all of my saves and data lose half my frozen throne access lose 30gb of disk space
Story time: I was one of those idiots to pre-order Warcraft III: Reforged, and bear in mind: I've NEVER pre-ordered any games other than this on. Ever. Hell, the reason I caved this time wasn't even to get Warcraft III: Reforged - and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this when discussing how much of a disaster this was. I pre-ordered so that I could gain access to the original version of Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne (as is STILL advertised on the site, by the way) because I had never played them before, nor any RTS really, because Blizzard had made it impossible for you to buy the stand-alone version so they could repackage it as a temporary pre-order bonus for buying Reforged. Because I thought, that at the very LEAST, if Reforged ended up sucking, I could still go back to the original game and play it as it was. That's all I really wanted from the start. And we all know what happened next: Classic client is gone, your 20-year-old physical version is now useless, Reforged is a complete disaster outsourced to a different country, and worse yet: they still, even after all of this, plan on making more remasters in the same vein as Reforged. Even people who PIRATED THE GAME somehow got fucked over; I didn't even know that was possible. Needless to say, I refunded the game immediately because I was lucky enough to have not played the game whatsoever, otherwise I wouldn't have been eligible for one. Unfortunately it's all in Blizzard Balance now, and I'm scared shitless to use it on anything like Diablo II, Starcraft, or...anything on there really. Especially because they're already set to repeat this same mistake for Overwatch 2, and that's got nowhere near the amount of acclaim and goodwill Warcraft III had, so who's to say all of their games won't eventually be ruined? So why even bother playing them? Never again. Fuck Blizzard.
OW is run by completely different people I believe. I'm thinking they will make better decisions. The OW2 highlight reel showed a bunch of RPG talent mechanics which makes me think it's not gonna be a PvP centric experience. I'm hoping it's going to be more of a coop game in the vein of L4D and Vermintide. I'd get that in a heartbeat honestly xD But ye, I feel like they remastered SC1 and some idiot official was like. "Hey, I got a great idea. We got all these other games too right? Let's remake ALL OF THEM!!" "GENIUS!!" What they fail to realize tho is that WC3 was fine. Perfect even. Why remake the campaigns at all? If their plan was to rekindle the WC3 eSport then I guess polishing it up to bring a bunch of attention to the game kinda makes sense. But SC1 really benefits from all the graphical upgrades and the big widescreen views that you can now do in eSport events. WC3 had no such limitations to begin with. Also the WC3 eSport is not nearly as big as SC1. So it doesn't really align. What worked for SC1 just did not make sense for WC3 imo. I feel like they should have just made WC4 xD Use the SC2 engine, use all the WC assets floating around in the moding community. Patch together some of the countless WoW stories and turn them into a few campaigns. Did you guys see the Alterac Map in Heroes of the Storm? The Horde and Alliance Forts look amazing. Just use that dammit! I hope they won't make the same mistakes with the Diablo remake. All we need is accessibility. No body wants a bottom to top remake.
That's an insult to the Scourge. They may operate the same way by spreading Blight everywhere and building upon it, but at least the Scourge has style.
@@doncorleone1720 they didnt allow taiwan numba 1 but allowed china numba 1, enforcing that open xenophobia is tolerated as long as its directed towards their supreme ruler's "enemies"
No, it is however when the studio is no longer owned by someone who knows the subjects in question, does not have an adequate grasp on reality to make a real assessment (employ someone to do that for them- then listen to them) to determine how much time is required for development. When the ownership no longer cares about quality in the pursuing vestment of wealth, no longer or never cared about those who would or could have derived enjoyment from the product... Is an utter disgrace to constructive progress.
It is if they are publicly traded, or are willing sell out. Publishers don't make games, they aquire studios and then suck the blood out of them until there is nothing left.
24:07 "Somehow Blizzard is worse than Bethesda" - Create new maps from the system. (they capitalize from it and you get 0 credits). - Looks like I won't be expecting something good from the upcoming Diablo....
@@gerardmariabrahamn.cartage7770 I always thought a D2 remaster would be an awesome thing but seeing how Reforged turned out I'd rather Blizzard stayed away from my childhood from this point on....
@@SerPengwin If you have the old warcraft 3 and you have internet access, man sorry to say it will update automatically like you totally say goodbye to the old masterpiece warcraft 3
@@gerardmariabrahamn.cartage7770 I still have a pirated WC3 so it's not completely ruined for me, no multiplayer obviously but at least I can play the game in its former glory
The fact that literally *any* hero that is in HoTS and in reforged always look better in HoTS is sad. The models look better in a sort of knockoff than they do in the *actual game.* it was ok for them to be better than the original WC3 because that was made literally 17 years ago, but suddenly this 6 year old game has better models than this new release that is supposed to be where the *ORIGINAL MODELS COME FROM.*
What angered me most is that they just retextured most things and called it a day. Animation in this game are till locked at ambysmal 30fps and even 15 at some points. Unacceptable in this age.
Remember everyone, vote with your wallet. This is one of the reasons they will never get another dollar from me. If we let them die out new gaming companies will emerge that can give us what the old blizzard did.
Like I just don't get it lol... Apparently there were a bunch of tournaments going on for WC3 and previously DotA that were independent of blizzard. And also the StarCraft leagues in Korea. Apparently blizzard wasn't making any money from these. Some accounting guy probably looked at the numbers and decided CD keys were being shared on lan parties and blizzard wasn't making money through this shit. So......why didn't blizzard just take initiative, take the reigns and organise more official blizzard tournaments with sponsors etc. Since it's obvious that there were at least some money being made for organizers of these indenpendent tournaments. Like wut... There was still a loyal following for WC3 like 15 years down the line. Why couldn't they just find a simple way to monetise it without destroying the game lol
@@slavicman-bd7jn I suppose that's down to each of us personally as customers and gamers. I kinda look at it like a breakup, I've been offended by them enough to cut ties completely. But maybe you wonna stay with them on a limited basis.
Nekoni writes a perfect comment. "This video started funny - - - and finally, heartbreaking." - I couldn't have said it better. It feels beyond crushing. My first tear was shed when the crown bounces down the steps with the WC3 logo on it. I dunno what to say man. I'm so ashamed of Blizzard and their performance the past couple years. Really really bad man
@@TheNecrumDavengers He uploads less and less (or not at all) and has a bad habit of deleting videos that get any negativity. Just search "Crowbcat reuploads"
Imagine a band where all original members have been replaced... it still have the same name, but why is the music so different? A mystery that will never be solved, we just don't have the technology to answer.
Who knew that Arthas' story of going from well intentioned paladin to corrupted destroyer of his own homeland was prophetic of Blizzard's own future?
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Well to be fair Arthas was a dick with an ego from the start.
@@JustAChinesePleb modeled after Bobby Kotick himself, of course. they were indeed predicting the future.
@@JustAChinesePleb Nah, that's not true.
@@ChrisCrosswow Read the books and play old warcraft lol. He was impatient, egoistic and disrespectful. I actually liked him after he became a bad guy more. He was insufferable before.
This video started funny.
Then it became sad...
Then depressing...
And finally, heartbreaking.
And then to top it off....
BREATHTAKING (literally)
yes tru ! i felt it in the heart :
I ever tell ya'll 'bout my buddy Keith?
at last desperation...
The outro (29:47) was perfect. I felt it in my bones.
I just love how Blizzard destroyed something that was perfectly fine and functional.
I would love a graphic update of the original but I didn't want them to make the game litteraly unplayable. And putting a high price on it is just insane.
@@magicmanscott40k They should take all this feedback and go back to the drawing board.
@@Cooil1 blizzard? Doing that? Nice joke
@@magicmanscott40k well...they used to do that before craptivision merge their company
Well in recent years they worked really hard on destroying perfectly fine games
A lot more effort went into making this video than in to WarCraft 3 Reforged, that's for sure!
Dymango --- No, a lot more passion than in WarCrap 3: Refunded.
@@falendemo546 Both lol.
99.99 percent of that are textures
Thank gosh didnt buy it! :)
@@user-oh6op1ng4x Although, even if you did, Blizzard will provide a refund.
It is called "false advertising", it is when a salesman lies about the product in order to sell more.
It is normaly illegal, but todays legalsystem hasn't figured out what the internet is yet.
I know right, I 100% blame the legal system because when there’s an unethical way of getting rich it’s guaranteed that there’s someone exploiting it. The legal system is slow as molasses, or someone is taking kickbacks.
Advertising whitout the lies is called "information".
I have to disagree. The legal system is in place and is being used for this type of false advertising. Who will bring a suit? Is there a disclaimer in the products Terms of Service? Is there a forum selection clause that brings it to a court where this type of litigation is likely to lose. These are the questions that need to be asked.
@Maphack are you a fellow law student? Clearly I am still learning my I R A C s
@Maphack I did got what I payed for... 18 years ago. Until one day I wake up and everything is gone.
The death of the modding scene is the saddest part to me. There were so many treasures on there that are just completely gone because Blizzard just had to force a half-assed re-release with a horrible terms of agreement. It's honestly a tragedy.
The realization that the concept of DOTA didn't belong to Blizzard, but the creative minds who made it (Icefrog) had them throw a temper tantrum and corrupt themselves.
Dude, it's actually so insane. Imagine if I created an art piece in Photoshop and suddenly Adobe comes and says "but but but you used MY TOOL TO DO IT! THIS IS MINE NOW!!!! MIIIIINE"
the terms of agreement are void, so no harm done there. blizzard must be destroyed.
It's the reason Blizzard forces everyone's legal copies of Warcraft 3 into reforged
@@ThornskadeThat's bullshit. Blizzard is a joke of a company now, but let's not lie and let's not pretend that Valve didn't outright steal Blizzard's intellectual property and get away with it. I'm talking about Warcraft 3 assets like hero models and lore which were made by Blizzard, and not by Icefrog. Dota 2 blatantly rips off WC3 models and concepts. It's even less subtle than these shitty mobile games that rip off classics to catch your eye in the app stores. Blizzard never claimed to own the concept behind DotA - did they ever sue League of Legends? No. Valve could have developed their own aesthetic, come up with their own heroes and leave the same design created by Icefrog and other modders and it would've been fine. But no, they went so far as to purposefully emulate quirks of WC3 engine to make DotA 2 more similar to the original. There's no way in which this isn't complete scumbaggery.
@@zlosliwa_menda Lol, do you know how many games ripped off the original Doom in that exact same way? Code is not protected by IP laws in this sense. This is not scumbaggery and if it were it would really stifle the industry.
Blizzard: "4+ hours of new cutscenes' naw we meant we were only going to spend 4 hours working _on_ the cutscenes."
and by 4 hours working on cutscenes we mean we're gonna take the old cutscenes and render them for 4 hours with no editing.
@@melonycarlson4093 and by 4 hours we meant dusting of the old rentering PC and play some WarCraft 3 for 4 hours
I bet they have 1 guy guy do it and they only gave him a day to do it. The cutscences suck.
nonoo you dont understand. there are people, who have to be able to explain, that THEY DESERVE that money forthe creation of 4+ hours of new cutscenes AND THAN they wont do it.
You mean *Activision, not Blizzard. It's Activision wearing Blizzard's rotting body as a disguise so they don't take the blame.
Meanwhile on Pirate bay: GLORIOUS OG Warcraft 3 Complete edition with thousands of working maps. YEah ... Blizzard literally put a product that infinitely worse than actual pirated game from almost 2 decades ago!!!
Vespr LAN still exists does it not?
@@epicone1998 gameranger
How to download pls
@@freshmilkmilk youtube is your friend
@@epicone1998 wtf
The "old" female demon hunter model was fan made for the hive workshop in classic. They just lifted it and put it in the official game.
Please tell me you're joking
Dear god
u serious?
and they put it in the world of warcraft(2004) game
Yup he's not kidding.
"Somewhere in the Arathi Highlands, Thrall, the young warchief of the orcish Horde, wakes from his troubling dream."
"Then he went back to sleep."
DEFEAT!
End of story! Thanks for purchesing reforged! (Proceed to 1 hour of credits)
@@manolgeorgiev9664 You did this to your customers KNOWINGLY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@AxenfonKlatismrek our gold mine has collapsed!
@@crackwizard666 jobs done
@@pootis_the_mans8007
YOU ARE PAST REDEMPTION!
At this point, it's not nostalgia when someone says "Old times were better".
Fire Hunterz for games yeah, at least we should get doom eternal.
i started playing wow about 1.5 years ago, althrough it was on private server. Legion was the first server i played for couple of months untill i switched to wotlk. And to this day, wrath is still the best game i've ever played even though i didn't play it in it's retail games. So no, it's not really nostalgia at all... Legion wasn't bad, it had plenty of features, it just didn't have 'soul' as older ones did
Only if you're focused on AAA companies like Blizzard and Bethesda. Money corrupted them like the Helm of Domination. If you want to play fresh and good games, you'll have to look for other companies like CD Project, which so far despite their success still deliver great games, or even better look for smaller so called indie developer.
Expect simpler graphics like in the original WC3 with Gameplay that is actually worth playing.
@Vasian Vasianich Definitely not a decent product. There's a lot of people who disagree with you there.
@Vasian Vasianich You're objectively wrong.
Pros:
-Updates to an outdated unit models.
Cons:
-Everything.
i'd say that even those model upgrades are cons, just as it is presented in video
@@MrSilki2 Well, i liked that they made custom Models for important Wow-Characters. But a lot of them are just shitty.
Nah, that aint no Pro, it's a con.
You mean downgraded models?
@@Azoth86730 I really don't like the new models and genuinely feel everything about the old models looked and felt much better.
The good old Blizzard that just wanted to make the best games is dead forever. Today's ACTIVISION-Blizzard is just a generic greedy company
Old Blizzard is absolutely responsible for Warcraft III Reforged and all the controversy of the Blizzard of today, they sold their soul, their essence and their customers to Activision... all for money... Blizzard was just as greedy as any other gaming company... but much like Apple, they made you feel like they cared for you...
League Skin Music "they sold their soul, their essence and their customers to Activision..."
Or, y'know, Activision went to their parent company and made a deal with _them,_ forcing Blizzard to be merged with them against their(the workers at Blizzard's) will. I literally did a 30 second search of "Activision Blizzard history" and found that out.
Ye
"Dedicated to creating the most epic entertainment experiences...ever"
Blizzard has lived long enough to turn their motto into their eulogy
Rest in pieces! See you in Frozen Hell! Bye everyone! Go FUCK yourselves!
That is depressingly poetic.
I don't think I enjoyed a single game they made to be honest. I almost enjoyed WoW but it's too expensive for basically a grinding simulator.
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
“What’s the saddest point of your gaming history?”
Blizzard-Activision.
Activision is pretty much cancer
@@dakilleral4998 yea. I commented this on another comment,everything Activision touches slowly turns into shit.
I feel bad for the Warcraft multiplayer scene, those guys played the game for a decade and that's how Blizzard thanks their support.
I thought about downloading the "shareware" version to see what's up with it, but after some thinking I realized it's not even worth the time.
The original game is definitely worth the time. Just don't connect it to the online services.
It's such a shocking level of disregard and indifference, toward a game which has specifically created a lot of wealth and goodwill toward Blizzard in particular. They honored SC1 to an extreme degree with HD, probably one of the most faithful remakes I've ever seen aside from Spyro Trilogy or Crash. But this game doesn't deserve that apparently. There was nobody left at Blizzard itself who even cared enough to render some faithful decent looking character models in their FREE TIME? Fans would do this work FREE OF CHARGE for each other but Billionaire Blizzard can't spend some of that WoW money to do some in-house work, instead they add fucking mecha-gnomes to WoW, what a bunch of morons.
@@James11111
No doubt the original WC3 is still one of the best games of all time. But I would advise anyone who's interested to not buy in on Battlenet. The team that made the game is gone anyway so there's no point in giving money to Lizzard.
Warcraft 3 multiplayer scene, especially the custom map scene is still alive and healthy after 17 years. And this is how Blizzard treated us lol.
You can play on other platforms... Gameranger
I don't know a lot about Warcraft but even I can tell something's wrong when I have a hard time working out whether the footage is from 2002 or 2020
The original had more cartoon graphics and the new one likes something out of a nightmare.
Truth be told, a lot of the models WOULD look a lot better if the game actually had proper lighting to compliment their design. Case and point, check out the Warcraft Reforged in Unreal Engine videos, where a guy added some of the models into that engine. They look exceptionally good there. However, the big lack of animations (especially portrait ones) really pull things back. Had they made the game on a completely new engine, they would've had far less restrictions, quite possibly far less bugs and would also look over all a lot better. The only con would be a lack of cross-play, but nobody asked for that to begin with and older maps for the most part break or look terrible in Reforged, so it's a waste there too
@@magicmanscott40k Corporate wants you to find the difference between these pictures.
They're the same picture
@Aidenpons you profile pic reminded me they need to remaster Lego Rock Raiders
I played Warcraft 3 quite a lot (albeit not recently) and I am having the same problem
They could just made cheap "HD" remake but they had to ruin the original as well in the process.
I think that's what happened to the Prince of Persia games and they ran fine on current gen. Literally all Warcraft needed was a facelift and they had some other company do it and blizzard took the credit for it.
@@magicmanscott40k good thing is that for taking credit for it, they are also responsible for one of the worst gaming experiences of all time.
It's their one last "fuck you" to people
Jupe uses Earth magic spells.
simply above and beyond
blizzard remembers greedisgood, but forgets whosyourdaddy.
I got feels to this
and the players reaction was iseedeadpeople
allyourbasebelongtome
@@TheKrislaf iseescammedpeople
thereisnoblizzard
- Activision
"No King rules forever, my son."
Blizzard to Blizzard Activision
I see, only r/WarcraftIII dectractors, hating me
Greed always ruins games.
XD
@@RearAdmiralTootToot what do you mean? greedisgood actually
When I saw the graphics of Reforge the first thing that comes to my mind is Raid: Shadow Legend lol
OMG I can see it now too!!!
Yeah it has that modern, yet cheap touch. Like graphics that would maybe look great for Blizzard pre-2010, because this shit looks worse than StarCraft 2
Banning the word "Taiwan" doesn't even surprise me 😂😂
It's unbelievable how far they will go to suck China's cock.
@@nihlus9589 It is utterly pathetic.
Corporate businessmen are whores, don't expect anything different.
Richard Watson Taiwan must be part of 🇨🇳
@@nihlus9589 all because of activision investors
I feel kinda old knowing that I lived in an age when Blizzard was known for polishing games to the extreme.
Most of their games have that polish. That makes this disaster even more surprising cuz they did polish before and they were succusful when the game came out. They deserve the low scores it got and the outrage.
Edit. Took out recent
@@magicmanscott40k recent games? could you kindly explain me your definition of recent? Overwatch came out 4 years ago and last version update if im correct was like 10 months ago. even though it is polished game it isn't BY ANY MEANS recent game lmao
@@madeitsupreme_9104 so your mad that used the word recent? I can take it out
@@magicmanscott40k you are clearly mistaken. The only polishing blizzard does is of Chinese knobs.
madeitsupreme_ its not like blizzard comes out with a new game every year. Calling overwatch recent is still fine because its pretty much one of the newest gamed they made compared to other companies that keep coming with new games every year
it's incredible how the sc2 mod's portraits are more animated than the static ones in reforged. absolutely soulless
Feel like the people that made reforge never played the original game.
3:12 "When the art was so...low quality..."
Excuse me? I loved the old art style. It has its own flavor. The current art style is a lifeless copy of the graphics other games have.
Can't believe I'll say this because I've always been a Blizzard fan since the 90s, but Blizzard sucks so bad!!!
The graphics were heaps above any other game at that time. Blizzard nailed it with graphics back then.
I mean sure, the original graphics are dated, but you shouldn't legally be allowed to call them low quality when Reforged looks like a mobile game and a sketchy MMO banner ad had a lovechild in the uncanny valley
Art style gets so overshadowed by graphical fidelity these days. It's fuckin' sad, boys.
@Vasian Vasianich "They're better than the SC2 ones" Nope youre delusional
@Vasian Vasianich "They're better than the SC2 ones."
Two issues with that sentence
A.Considering the differences in the lighting's quality (and a few animations), it's questionable.
B.They better be a whole league above a game that originally came out almost 8 years ago. They're not.
It's sad to see corporate greed destroy a once great company.
Nestor but it did make for a hilarious 4Chan thread. So at least there is that.
Cuz of Activision
Become a weeb we have less corruption
@@thejman5683 Until the Yakuza show up and fuck everything with gacha lol
More like corporate INCOMPETENCY. Corporate greed can work if done right. Blizzard, bethesda? Outright embarrassing
“And they say blizzard games don’t have bugs.”
What an outdated quote.
The bugs are the only fun part now. All the other fun has been relentlessly purged.
It's not a bug, it's a feature. Working as intended.
There's similar quote to that(down to it's outdated-ness perhaps): "and they say Digimon animes don't have Flanderizations"(cuz of tri)
Taiwan is a banned word...OMG
They dont want to jepordize their partnership with China. Blizzard has officially turned evil, and Im not even trying to sound melodramatic or funny. They literally have sacreficed the freedom and democracy of others in order to gain profit. You think im exaggerating? This is exactly how China operates when they fund nations around the world (especially in Africa and Latin America), they fund your infrastructure, but in return you are expected to comply with CCP policies, which includes renouncing Taiwan and HK, until these two no longer have any friends or allies to stop China from taking them over.
Blizzard, you are not just greedy, you are evil.
@@fredrikengstrom2107 the prophecy is true
everything activision touch turn to dust
fucking blizzard, i am chinese, but why banned taiwan as word, they are customer too! And fucking game should never involved anything about politics. Shame on them.
@@fredrikengstrom2107 Chinese here, don't blame us for things that blizzard did to themselves. Taiwan isn't a banned word in China so this is blizzard being a dumbass.
Yea kow tow to china just like all the other major US corps. muahhahahaha. fucking pathetic isnt it.
WCIII: made by passionate visionaries
WCIII RF: made by wannabe hacks and shills that sold their souls
It's bad when the low budget mods looked better than the high budget one.
"We want to modernize the character models for the future audience."
_(Ignores the fact that the future audience wants _*_better_*_ graphics)_
Love the profile pic and name
Also cleavage isnt out, its very much in.
@@dodojesus4529 Yeah it's more in than ever, just go outside in spring and summer
@@dodojesus4529 Their "audience" is mostly people who wouldn't buy the game anyway
The feeling, when you order a Mercedes and get a Wheelchair.
At least it's Mercedes brand. You'll have the hottest ride at the Home.
It is like you order mercedes but you got an old mercedes painted like new
considering that they also fucks the classic edition it's more like ordering Mercedes, turned into wheelchair, and then realized that your current rides is downgraded into 1:32 bicycle toy
You hear about this awesome, 67 corvette or some shit. All these amazing features, totally modernized interior with leather seats. Backup camera, XM radio, bluetooth, and yet it's a 67 corvette!
Then you get a car with rust all over it. The wheels are about to bust off. The brake pads are grinding on day one. It feels like it hasn't been driven since 1968. All of those modern features are nowhere to be found, although at least it has an aux port. The leather is cracked, old, or gone altogether. What does the salesman tell you?
"But look at the beautiful paint job! It's brand new! $30,000 is such a steal!"
And the dealership didn't even do the paintjob, they bought it like that.
Dont worry youll get the car piece by piece after several patches
They removed quotes like:I’m a dread lord, not a drug lord!@“ and “I’m so wasted!” :(
Dat Chinese cash tho
Yeah that's all for China
@@arawn1061 How do China force them to remove an English line?
If the Chinese locolizer doesn't like a voice line, they simply dub it into something else. If Chinese version's not allowed to have some graphic effect, they censor it on their own server. No harm done to you.
Only western political correct bullshit can cause companies to kneel.
@@thomas-hf9yz Wrong
@@apocalypse930 wow how convenient a chinese bot appears
3:25 "You really didn't know what was happening a lot of the time."
Yo, WC3 was one of the most readable RTS games due to that aesthetic and the vivid colors on the units
For real, it's why I loved WC3 over Starcraft to be honest. My SC micro was trash cause the screen got so busy.
I couldn't tell what was going on most of the time unless I played elves. I play a lot to rts, even the older ones and I found all of them easier to tell what's going on. One thing I'll give Warcraft is it defiantly had the best story mode of any rts I played. Well it used to.
10 thousand times agree! And it wasn't just colors, but also silhouettes of icons and models
It just sounds like everyone working on reforged hated the original game
"And their custom games gave rise to new genres" - he said, unable to stifle the satisfied laughter because he knew that this time around, they'll have copyright to every single piece of that creativity and won't miss a single penny of potential revenue without even needing to give credit to the author. Probably not even a thank you.
It's the Leeroy Jenkins story all over again, but horrifically evolved.
This should be a pinned comment. This is what's under the surface of everything.
Blizzard still salty that Valve got Dota first.
LOL. This "Remaster" has worse graphics than games made in 2007.
Nice joke 👍👏
@@maykel3674 Truth*
definitely not a joke even the lego games are great back then
This game has worse graphics than games all the way back from 2004.
Just look at TF2 and you can tell that they didn't put effort on Reforged models
22:40 Ah, I see Blizzard is still salty about that whole Dota fiasco
What Dota fiasco? More like Blizzard's butthurt anus.
@@genesisbustamante-durian so true, blizzard got raped in court, those greedy fucks had no chance..
Haha yeah, honestly how long did those idiots have to hire Icefrog and make dota their own thing? Years and years
Drake ICN
No kidding. Would it really be that hard for them to get talented hobbyists onboard?
@Drake ICN It is amazing. It always fascinates me how passionate modders and creators are rarely ever approached.
Bethesda (Fallout/Elder Scrolls), Blizzard, Creative Assembly (Total War) could profit massively from hiring some of the most incredible modders in their game communities. Story or functionality-wise. What the hell is going on? Do they hate money? or have no vision?
Blizzard: Activision... It can't be
Activision: I've returned to bring your devs back into the fold. Though you failed the shareholders before, you will now serve us once again.
Blizzard: No... we are free!
Activision: Stupid, pitiful creature. I am the greed in your heart. I am the avarice of your thoughts. I alone empowered you to bring disappointment to this world, and by the endless unsustainable growth, you shall!
how do you only have 3 upvotes so far? where are the two 0s behind the 3?
This is the excuse i hear the most: It's not Blizzard, it's all Activisions fault. Are you guys really sure about that? Any insider information to support this claim? People act like a PUBLISHER is calling ALL the shots at Blizzard, wich is ridiculous.
So fucking true xD
@@antoniudraculea4507 DUde this is not reddit! there are no upvotes here
@@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 well, we don't have upvotes, but we have likes.
just play the real warcraft 3 via pirated client xD its been working perfectly for 10+ years
I've had a random pirate version on my pc for like 6+ years and it works perfectly lol
So...
technically Blizzard is giving you a reason to pirate the game
nice
You mean 18 years.
Think i still have a cracked CD copy from highschool somewhere.
Well the multiplayer servers are dead so RIP trolls vs elves.
The Blizzard next remake game: "Warcraft III: Reforged: Remake"
Omg I can't imagine how pissed the community would be if they did that
And of course for 60$
Which is just the old game.
@@okiel1873 add another 0 and SUM DLCSSSS
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain" RIP Blizzard
Well, I guess we can say now that Blizzard got a Blizzard away by all theirs fans, right?
Nah, blizzard lived long enough to be corrupted by the evil they were fighting
Blizzard died when Activision bought them.
Blizzard aint blizzard anymore. The only good dev left is Jason Kaplan of OW.
@@Vanles25 Not anymore
Man...one of my best friends biggest wish was to work for Blizzard some day and now he can't look at them...
Damn, that sounds straight heartbreaking
That sounds like me, since 8th grade I wanted to make games and especially for Blizzard - WC3, D2, Starcraft all amazing, now its all shit
He should work for Sony or Nintendo
@@thundageon5962 They have their issues as well but yeah, no triple A company has their hands clean of blood, lol. As far as US companies Riot probably has the best potential for a new dev looking to make it big.
Mohammed Ahmed nintendo is kinda hard considering a majority of titles are created by the japanese branch, I guess it would be cool having a chance to program a zelda but, if he is a creative type that wants to create his own stories, than nintendo might be weird thing to go for
idk if they have any american first party developers but sony does
honestly, I wouldn’t focus on going too big nowadays. what i mean is: I wouldn’t focus on going for a big triple A company like EA or Sega, for example. If your game is interesting and good, there is always the chance of a youtuber picking it up to film and bringing attention. look at doki doki literature club, the game is done on a bare bones engine but was one of the biggest games of 2017 and had really creative moments of ingenuousness by the devs.
I was born in '92, played WC1 when I was too young to remember and from there I played almost all the blizz games at least once. Now, looking at things, I feel old... and sad.
I was born ten years later. I've played wc2 and wc3 when young and I loved it. Sucks they screwed the game.
I'm born in 1991 and I never played Warcraft 1-2 but I do played Warcraft 3 when it still on my big old pc
Until I left it for a while before I reinstall it's pirated version on that pc
The best describe saying ever at 7:33
"Arthas looking like a 55 years old drunk walking arround with a sword."
It kinda makes sense. He was being corrupted by the sword and going mad. Still they worked arthas a bunch of times in wow and to see them mess up something they did a bunch of times before is just lazy to me.
They turned him into AlabamaMan
Well to be fair he looked like that on the OG art as well..
Peon: Ready to work.
2002: Warcraft 3, Best RTS game of the century.
2020: Warcraft 3 Reforged, best meme of the century.
Peasant: That's it, I'm dead.
It was more because ever since they partnered with Activision we've had:
WoW: BFA (Sorry)
Diablo Immortal (We screwed up, we will be better)
Hong Kong scandal (It wont happen again, just give us one more chance!)
Warcraft Reforgd (Thats it, Im dead).
Lmao, yep Blizzard, three strikes youre out.
@@fredrikengstrom2107 they've been since the end of wotlk and guess when wow started sucking?
C A since the start of wotlk
😂😂😂😂🤣👌
unknowning unknown matter of opinion. While I respect AoE, it didn’t even come close to what War3 accomplished for the video game industry. RoC and TFT are absolute masterpieces
I'm gonna watch this. Thank you for this long video
hi wajinshu
@@mirael1248 hello 😁
Weeb
these opinion presented are trash, its better to have ur own opinion without biaz when tryint out
@@wiceorc5105 COOOOPE
*_"Warcraft 3:Reforged,Rejected,Refunded"_*
Holyshit, that Sc2 fan made mod looks so much better.
Hurts the eyes even more tho.
"Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave". Never seen a better example...
Amazing.
that fan mode looked like shit
It's a little too drab looking, honestly.
"look what they done to my boy"
Never hit me so hard till now...
7 months afther too, God I must live under a rock.
This is what happens at a lot of software companies in general, not just video game studios. Business people (marketing, finance) who are interested in more profits above anything else force the companies to make decisions that ruin the user experience, causing less profits in the end. Ironic, but it happened in every single company I worked in to some extent.
When you have retards with fancy diplomas and no experience in the field running executive boards this happens. Way too often.
@@Pay2pray You don't even know how right you are. The new guy coming in that has never worked in sales or has any experience but a diploma and demands to change things customers liked. Telling the guy it will be bad. He does not listen. So what happens next? Things are changed, regular customers don't like it and leave. New customers aren't coming. The place goes bankrupt. Very cool. This shit is ruining everything.
Activision-Blizzard is becoming an EA clone. The amazing talents before that made amazing games is gone. Bye old Blizzard.
They ruined bungie too who had fun making they're games. When you ruin bungie and blizzard, that's pretty fucked up.
rip blizzard :'( rip my childhood
Blizzard died the moment activision was added to the name
I still find it annoying that people keep saying Blizzard.
Blizzard died years ago. Everything from then on is Activision and I hate how easily it is for them to hide their brand name behind another.
Activision just jealous to old blizzard
@@b.d.a.8719 Lol I think that proves more than anything that it's simply a huge act of incompetence. They are just legitimately bad developers and need a new job.
@@b.d.a.8719 I think it makes perfect sense, no one in the MMO world right now says WoW is the best MMO anymore or deserves the top spot for most played MMO. So why is it making so much money? Nostalgia and the fact people invested for a decade or more on that one game, they don't want to switch and feel they have to stick with it.
Legacy and name go a long way, look at Pokemon, their recent games are regarded by most as their worst mainline entries since quite some time, yet it's sold like hotcakes simply because it's Pokemon. Same with Blizzard games. People simply don't wanna admit their childhood turned to shit.
^ He's right, you know.
@@b.d.a.8719 activision-blizz is the opposite of capitalism. The entire video game and entertainment industry is a federally controlled monopoly. Companies only get big and rich because of lack of competition that would take their revenue with a better product.
EA "What are you doing?"
Acti-Blizz "Succeeding you, EA."
I agree with that guy in the video who said blizzard is now worse than bethasda.
@@magicmanscott40k that guy would be angry joe.
@@joshualighttime604 Yep, is angryjoe.
More reason I calls Activision "EA 2.0"
I see someone remembers that cutscene : D
"I'll always trust the three B's: Bethesda, Bioware, and Blizzard!"
A quote that never stops giving!
BEE'S...... BEE'S NEVER CHANGES
BA
Triple aaas got tripple bs for triple bullshit
Blizzard is sadly already gone. Bethesda will sign its oficial death when they fuck up TS. Worst part is that people who fucked up this companies did it willingly and already got their money.
The funniest part to me of all this:
I was in the deep throes of hate for Blizzard in 2018 as I was still playing BFA and disgusted at the disappointment I felt for it.
When I saw W3 Reforged stratholm cutscene, I knew that the final game wouldn't look like that. Blizzard didn't let my expectations down this time, finally. I was on the winning side of history and did not invest any money whatsoever into this disgrace.
BFA was a disgusting turd, especially when things were looking up with Legion. Then Blizzard pulled this shit. Then they banned a friend of mine on bullshit charges of using a "dll injector" because of a Warden false positive (he apparently had an unofficial launcher for Blade and Soul running that a lot of people use due to technical issues with the official one). Then they stonewalled him and upheld that bullshit ban. Then they threatened to close his account if he kept appeaing. That was it for me.
"Taiwan number 1 as nickname doesn't work"
"China number 1 as nickname works!"
Blizzard is all about politic now.
No, they're all about pandering to the Chinese for money.
yea that blew my mind
@G C holy shit yall really on some Marxist shit there on the USA lol
G C what the fuck are you on about lmao
@@AnanYMouse-pj7uw
he's saying that most americans project. and he's right.
The illidan vs Arthas scene makes me genuinely upset because they had a chance to animate what the fight was supposed to be like according to the story boards but they didn't
15:04 that laugh can cure cancer I swear
"Arthas looks like a 55 year old drunk with a sword" LUL
They're in trouble now, only one million sheep might pre-order their next game.
Baaaaah
Tap the sheep until it explode.
@@robertagren9360 Would be good so Activision won't get money.
NEVER EVER PRE-ORDER. NO MATTER WHAT THEY BAIT YOU WITH.
NEVER PRE-ORDER.
This is true. It's pointless to even be angry at this behavior. Whether business or government or anything. The greedy get in and fleece the lambs. There will always be lambs. It will never change.
Blizzard: How to waste everyone's time with a remake of a game that was perfectly fine and using that as an excuse to not make warcraft 4. YAY!
How can you not be depressed when everything you loved falls apart ?
feels great
Depression is a healthy response to a corrupted society.
Going to someone who gives me new things to love that even remind me of the good old times.
flufychickens EPIC Word
everything dies.
Well... We can always play the pirated classic edition ...
Yeah
Or Spellforce
time to revisit iccup
@@yb000 Thousands of people still play on the client RGC Gaming. Its mostly for DOTA but u can host several custom games on it.
when he said "Arthas looks like a 55 year old drunk",I laughed and yelled out,"He DOES!!!".....lol
The best source we have when there's no Crowbcat 👌
What do you mean?
Pretty sure he's dead...
@@VerdeMorte Nah Terak just works faster :)
Crob might reply later.
@@jamessalvatore7054 I'm not too sure, I still wanted a Stadia video from Crowbcat yet he hasn't made any videos apart from that Ghost Recon vid
Blizzard 2011: We love making games and our customers.
Blizzard 2020: We love making money and supporting China.
"China Numba 1" i sleep
"Taiwan Number 1" R E A L S H I T
In case you haven't realized, the Chinese version of this "reforge" has tons of ridiculous subtitle mistakes.
They sucked in 2011 too
@G C What's wrong with supporting china? hmm let's see: Social Credit score, Communism, the CCP (now somehow scarier than the KGB), zero freedom of speech, a xenophobic culture that is on it's 3rd or 4th genocide, mass censorship, 24/7 survelliance with ai assisted facial recognition tied to one of the most invasive databases ever, zero privacy (can't even poop without the cameras watching), no freedom, laws that only benefit the state, police that know more about you than you know about yourself, terrible working conditions and worker rights, a society that looks like it was ripped from George Orwell's 1984 dystopian sci fi novel.
Need I go on?
G C I'm not an us citizen nor do i live there. It's certainly corrupt to a degree, has racial issues, some surveillance and questionable working conditions. Still it's nowhere near China, where corruption might as well be taught in school for how widespread it is, if only teachers were allowed to teach the truth instead of government-approved patriotic bs and lies. (I should know, I met a former chinese teacher) And sure, even France chooses what is taught in school, but teachers aren't banned from talking about certain subjects. And it's not like you'll be able to find more about it online with all the censorship there is.
Sure there are countries who spy on their citizens, but not like that, not like China does. It truly is a totalitarian regime who actually committed genocide and oppressed neighboring countries. Comparing that to the US would be like comparing a tank to a machine gun in terms of military power. They are both dangerous, but the tank is way scarier.
Also, saying "but this country is no better" is such a non-argument that you might as well say "but the other kids do it". And assuming that the problem we have with China is due to xenophobia or racism is offensive and, frankly, quite ironic.
But the topic isn't china or the us, it's war3 reforged being bad and the link with blizzard selling out for their chinese investors. My only problem is pandering to another country for money, especially on the topic of Taiwan.
This is BY FAR the best video about Warcraft Reforged I have ever seen. No long rant, just real people talking about all of the problems, people involved in a game killed for no reason.
what is with all these massive gaming companies who had the complete love and adoration of their fans doing all these heinous and dubiously legal things lately?
27:19 seems to sum it up pretty well.
They want to emulate the sports game/ FPS mode.Rehash the same game every year and make hundreds of millions.This process can't really be applied to other types of games..hence the rise of these abominations.
how about you check who the CEOs of these western companies are and figure it out
L O A D S E O F M O N E
WASSAT SPELL? LOADSA MONEY!
...probably
@@CopperGears Jeffrey Epstein? Dangerous guy? Hard to be dangerous when you're a corpse. If you want to be worried about horrific immoral things staring us collectivley right in the face nobody really cares about and will never be fixed focus more on the guys who murdered him.
"We wanted to make the classic but like how we'd make it today" you know, like a mobile game.
A shitty mobile game wth a Chrome-ased menu, a shitty mobile game with 30GB of shitty graphics asset updates.
A shitty mobile game of which the Chrome-based menu eats your desktop PC's memory.
"Because we used to make a great game, but these days we only have one coder locked in our basement and we only let him out to work on a mobile game", you know, like a shitty mobile game...
Well he wasn't wrong. This IS what the game would be in 2020 as we are deep in the dark times of shitty mobile games
This whole shitfest is worthy of an Internet Historian episode
Another reminder that waiting for reviews is never wrong. Only 5 minutes into your video. Great editing so far!
In retrospect, WotLK was a fitting end to the glory days of Blizzard.
Nah, they made a lot of good stuff after that.
@@Tom-hc1ql I think LotV campaign sucked ass, I think the multiplayer in SC2 is the best it's ever been. The pro matches are the best they've ever been too. When Serral won WCS almost every game of the entire BlizzCon part was amazing. But yes I do agree Blizzard has not made anything good in a long time.
WotLK was literally the point where WoW became garbage, people only sperg out about it cus MUH ARTHAS
@ivo georgiev Legion was actually really good. And I say this as someone who started in Burning Crusade and played the most seriously during Wrath.
@@NGRevenant it was the most played expac in wow history. The tip of the spear.
Apart from how Frostmourne was destroyed the story was good.
May be Arthas did won back then, and everyone is just delusional and there was no deus ex machine aka Tirion jumping 3 meters high.
I love how they sent the janitor to deliver their "apology."
Everybody's making fun of wc3 reforged but really, as people like me who spend a huge amount of time of their childhood playing with friends and random strangers, enjoying the amazing story and incredible custom games, I'm deeply sadden and heartbroken by it
I also played warcraft 3 long ago before my pc goes formatted for nth time(just before 2010) where in 2010, I started new life where I make a Mega-crossover project that mixes everything(with some exceptions) with a twist: inclusion of RL conspiracy theories(or at least so-called ones) to make it's scifi and supernatural elements authentic among other things.
And the disaster of Warcraft 3 reforged makes me secured Pirated copy of Warcraft 3 to my pc to play it once more(without worrying over update into reforged)
I am shocked of how bad this remastered turnout out to be
Why? Why are people shocked? Blizzard has been shit for many years now..
What's wrong with it?
@@rockerman735 watch the video
@@ДелчоРаднев this is like, the game that made blizzard popular. And they killed it.
I still stick with my frozen throne
"Uther, your timing couldn't have been better."
*DIES IN A FUCKING CUTSCENE IMMEDIATELY.*
Yes TeraJK, keep rubbing salt in my wounds...
Wouldn't expect anything less from Blizzard these days
Now worse than EA has ever been.
@@Marinealver Yeah I thought EA ruined Red Alert 3. But not to think RA3 was absolute classic compared to this. At least it was playable, and fun. It felt like they actually put some hard work to make the game. But Reforged feels like, I don't know just, they just copied some models and pasted into game without even checking the bugs. Felt like they didn't even tried to play themselves.
16:16
"You see this shit?"
"YES MY LORD!!!"
I genuinely had a heartfelt moment throughout this, it was like experiencing the cycles of death: grief, rage, despair, and then finally acceptance. As a person who played wc3 ever since I was a child, experiencing the campaign and became genuinely immersed into the world and lore, then entered the DOTA and custom games and sank hours upon hours - then playing starcraft then diablo then World of Warcraft. My entire childhood had blizzard games in it.
Now seeing all the train wrecks, is like seeing a best friend hitting hard times and crashing even further. It's finally dead. Only it's rotting corpse is being beaten and its memory humiliated so Activison can try to get as many eyes they can get while Blizzard's decomposing corpse still has meat on its bones. But at least we can all finally have a peace of mind, knowing our old friend has finally died. Though his body is being desecrated, we know his soul lives on - painlessly and free.
Fuck this gay earth.
Yeah, those very last few seconds perfectly delivered a nonchalant "acceptance" vibe.
@@diabl2master This is gibberish.
If the Earth is "gay" and you want to fluff it, what are you then?
@@roberth4395 lurk moar
If you didn't put the last sentence into your comment I'd have liked it.
lol do you know what people said to me on blizzard forums, some say "Why do you care if blizzard own the maps. They have the right to own it." and I was like b*tch for real? That's why I only will re-edit the campaign maps and melee maps for fun but they didn't add the custom campaign and singleplayer custom maps that you can play with the AI with cheats or no cheats.
"you hereby assign to Blizzard all of your rights, title, and interest in and to all Custom Games, including but not limited to any copyrights in the content of any Custom Games. If for any reason you are prevented or restricted from assigning any rights in the Custom Games to Blizzard, you grant to Blizzard an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide, unconditional, royalty free, irrevocable license enabling Blizzard to fully exploit the Custom Games (or any component thereof) for any purpose and in any manner whatsoever."
Its absolutely absurd, they could not stop at protecting their own assets and taking a licensing agreement for any created maps. :/
One of the many reasons why I don't feel bad for blizz's fans. They made this monster.
People like you are hilariously misinformed. The map editor has always stated that anything you make belongs to them. That was their entire case when Valve was making Dota 2, though they decided to settle out of court. There are some valid complaints with the game, but this here is just reaching, people with terrible memories, or just bandwagoning.
When I'm in the middle of the night elf campaign
then suddenly update hits
lose all of my saves and data
lose half my frozen throne access
lose 30gb of disk space
16:44
Uther: I'm surprised you kept things together as long as you did, lad.
Arthas: *Fades out of existence.*
Arthas: *dies of cringe*
He retrospective with Chris Metzen was heartbreaking to watch.
Just made me remember how amazing the old cinematics were for their time
Story time: I was one of those idiots to pre-order Warcraft III: Reforged, and bear in mind: I've NEVER pre-ordered any games other than this on. Ever. Hell, the reason I caved this time wasn't even to get Warcraft III: Reforged - and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this when discussing how much of a disaster this was. I pre-ordered so that I could gain access to the original version of Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne (as is STILL advertised on the site, by the way) because I had never played them before, nor any RTS really, because Blizzard had made it impossible for you to buy the stand-alone version so they could repackage it as a temporary pre-order bonus for buying Reforged.
Because I thought, that at the very LEAST, if Reforged ended up sucking, I could still go back to the original game and play it as it was. That's all I really wanted from the start.
And we all know what happened next: Classic client is gone, your 20-year-old physical version is now useless, Reforged is a complete disaster outsourced to a different country, and worse yet: they still, even after all of this, plan on making more remasters in the same vein as Reforged.
Even people who PIRATED THE GAME somehow got fucked over; I didn't even know that was possible.
Needless to say, I refunded the game immediately because I was lucky enough to have not played the game whatsoever, otherwise I wouldn't have been eligible for one. Unfortunately it's all in Blizzard Balance now, and I'm scared shitless to use it on anything like Diablo II, Starcraft, or...anything on there really. Especially because they're already set to repeat this same mistake for Overwatch 2, and that's got nowhere near the amount of acclaim and goodwill Warcraft III had, so who's to say all of their games won't eventually be ruined? So why even bother playing them?
Never again. Fuck Blizzard.
How did even people who pirated get fucked?
I still have the original with the 1.30 update. Every time I start the game, a massage pop-up to install the new updates, I will always refuse.
OW is run by completely different people I believe.
I'm thinking they will make better decisions.
The OW2 highlight reel showed a bunch of RPG talent mechanics which makes me think it's not gonna be a PvP centric experience.
I'm hoping it's going to be more of a coop game in the vein of L4D and Vermintide.
I'd get that in a heartbeat honestly xD
But ye, I feel like they remastered SC1 and some idiot official was like.
"Hey, I got a great idea. We got all these other games too right? Let's remake ALL OF THEM!!"
"GENIUS!!"
What they fail to realize tho is that WC3 was fine. Perfect even. Why remake the campaigns at all?
If their plan was to rekindle the WC3 eSport then I guess polishing it up to bring a bunch of attention to the game kinda makes sense.
But SC1 really benefits from all the graphical upgrades and the big widescreen views that you can now do in eSport events. WC3 had no such limitations to begin with. Also the WC3 eSport is not nearly as big as SC1. So it doesn't really align.
What worked for SC1 just did not make sense for WC3 imo. I feel like they should have just made WC4 xD
Use the SC2 engine, use all the WC assets floating around in the moding community. Patch together some of the countless WoW stories and turn them into a few campaigns.
Did you guys see the Alterac Map in Heroes of the Storm? The Horde and Alliance Forts look amazing. Just use that dammit!
I hope they won't make the same mistakes with the Diablo remake. All we need is accessibility.
No body wants a bottom to top remake.
@@Broockle People like you are the reasons why companies like Activision will continue this shitty practices. Different team, same shitty publisher.
@@Broockle stop giving blizzard passes as long as blizzard gives head to China they won't stop this greed
I loved the fact that you played the undead theme when they started talking about the corporate fucks LOL. Priceless.
That's an insult to the Scourge. They may operate the same way by spreading Blight everywhere and building upon it, but at least the Scourge has style.
The episode with "Taiwan" word restricted is just the most outrageous.
"Job's done!"
I lost it.
*Picture of Xi" --- Arthas: "For my father the king!"
Our gold mine has collapsed!
26:02 is when i died a little inside
Electronic Raisin i dont get it
@@doncorleone1720 they didnt allow taiwan numba 1 but allowed china numba 1, enforcing that open xenophobia is tolerated as long as its directed towards their supreme ruler's "enemies"
@@electronicraisin5956 balajt
I sometimes wonder whether this is inevitable for every game studio after they hit a certain level of success.
No, it is however when the studio is no longer owned by someone who knows the subjects in question, does not have an adequate grasp on reality to make a real assessment (employ someone to do that for them- then listen to them) to determine how much time is required for development. When the ownership no longer cares about quality in the pursuing vestment of wealth, no longer or never cared about those who would or could have derived enjoyment from the product... Is an utter disgrace to constructive progress.
It is if they are publicly traded, or are willing sell out.
Publishers don't make games, they aquire studios and then suck the blood out of them until there is nothing left.
24:07 "Somehow Blizzard is worse than Bethesda"
- Create new maps from the system. (they capitalize from it and you get 0 credits).
- Looks like I won't be expecting something good from the upcoming Diablo....
"is this some kind of april fools joke?"
@@robertmurry1442 ummm maybe...
@@gerardmariabrahamn.cartage7770 I always thought a D2 remaster would be an awesome thing but seeing how Reforged turned out I'd rather Blizzard stayed away from my childhood from this point on....
@@SerPengwin If you have the old warcraft 3 and you have internet access, man sorry to say it will update automatically like you totally say goodbye to the old masterpiece warcraft 3
@@gerardmariabrahamn.cartage7770 I still have a pirated WC3 so it's not completely ruined for me, no multiplayer obviously but at least I can play the game in its former glory
The fact that literally *any* hero that is in HoTS and in reforged always look better in HoTS is sad. The models look better in a sort of knockoff than they do in the *actual game.* it was ok for them to be better than the original WC3 because that was made literally 17 years ago, but suddenly this 6 year old game has better models than this new release that is supposed to be where the *ORIGINAL MODELS COME FROM.*
What angered me most is that they just retextured most things and called it a day.
Animation in this game are till locked at ambysmal 30fps and even 15 at some points.
Unacceptable in this age.
Remember everyone, vote with your wallet. This is one of the reasons they will never get another dollar from me. If we let them die out new gaming companies will emerge that can give us what the old blizzard did.
Like I just don't get it lol...
Apparently there were a bunch of tournaments going on for WC3 and previously DotA that were independent of blizzard. And also the StarCraft leagues in Korea. Apparently blizzard wasn't making any money from these.
Some accounting guy probably looked at the numbers and decided CD keys were being shared on lan parties and blizzard wasn't making money through this shit.
So......why didn't blizzard just take initiative, take the reigns and organise more official blizzard tournaments with sponsors etc. Since it's obvious that there were at least some money being made for organizers of these indenpendent tournaments. Like wut...
There was still a loyal following for WC3 like 15 years down the line. Why couldn't they just find a simple way to monetise it without destroying the game lol
but what if want to spend money on their other GOOD games
@@slavicman-bd7jn I suppose that's down to each of us personally as customers and gamers. I kinda look at it like a breakup, I've been offended by them enough to cut ties completely. But maybe you wonna stay with them on a limited basis.
no new companies emerge if this free to play noncense continues
@@slavicman-bd7jn wich one? there only a few.
19:44 Somewhere in the Arathi Highlands, Metzen, the old blizzard retired developer, wakes from his troubling dream.
Make a "mockumentary" about how a "prophet" goes back in time to warn Blizzard NOT to merge with Activision. I'd totally dig that!
@@zxKAOS1 Mom, quick, buy Google and Apple Shares!
DEFEAT
Next Blizzcon- "c´mon dont you guys have money?"
"is this an out of season credit card?"
Nekoni writes a perfect comment. "This video started funny - - - and finally, heartbreaking." -
I couldn't have said it better. It feels beyond crushing. My first tear was shed when the crown bounces down the steps with the WC3 logo on it. I dunno what to say man. I'm so ashamed of Blizzard and their performance the past couple years. Really really bad man
Thank you for doing the job Crowbcat is now too afraid to do.
Crowbcat is such a shadow of his former self. His new videos have no teeth.
What happened? Why is he afraid?
Imagine if TerakJK is actually Crowbcat in disguise.
@@TheNecrumDavengers He uploads less and less (or not at all) and has a bad habit of deleting videos that get any negativity. Just search "Crowbcat reuploads"
@@S0ci0stan he's such a pussy
Imagine a band where all original members have been replaced... it still have the same name, but why is the music so different?
A mystery that will never be solved, we just don't have the technology to answer.
Holy shit, that Starcraft mod looks absolutely amazing compared to the garbage we recieved in the form of Warcraft 3:Refunded.