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This is me responding to all the problems in my last video • A tier list to prep yo...
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In this video, you're seeing me respond to a bunch of Leagues comments. They came from here -> ua-cam.com/video/EnzvUxQ3a7E/v-deo.html
hey, someone mentioned bowfa and you spoke about it.
the thing about it is, with the ranged relic route and draining strikes (if thats added) it will be the best possible weapon in the leagues.
its already bis or 2nd at 80% of content without any of the relic buffs, and with them it will destroy anything.
it will out dps any melee item with melee relics and only be comparable to a shadow with maxmage in terms of dps.
CG - this is very easy to complete once you have draining strikes and ranged relic you can out dps hunleff before it does enough damage on you to kill you if you have t2 armour, you dont even need to eat (from previous leagues experience)
for clarification the best possible route in terms of gear setup for choosing ranged relic would be wildy/kandarin > elf > kourend.
this would cover all attack styles enough to make cox doable fairly fast
bowfa - with above relicx will out dps available for melee/mage on olms hands even with the damage reduction.
has the best raw dps on every npc inside cox other than tekton (even if compared to bis available choosing other combat relics and bis gear)
bowfa is literally a 1 use for everything weapon, just as shadow will be with the exception bowfa is more easy to obtain as to complete TOA youd need tribrid setups and multiple areas.
all in all, elf is the bis possible area in the leagues
it has every skilling area youll need
bis ranged weapon
money snake for supplies
gauntlet for supplies
desert being a close 2nd and tied with kourend due to endgame items in both, but elf should be a non disputable pick when choosing ranged combat route, if the relics arent changed too much that is
You still alive? Leagues is soon miss my favourite streamer
Oh and please continue making these videos. It is NOT too early and I love theory crafting for leagues. Even though I disagree with you at times I do really appreciate the discussions you create and the positive energy you add.
Thanks!!
@@WeSkillNow agreed this will be my first leagues i have played so any info helps us noobs
I would really appreciate a tierlist for players with limited game time. So minimal afk time, maximum high intensity play.
That's pog
"Slayer Tasks will be limited to creatures found in the areas you have unlocked.
Treasure Trail steps will be limited to the areas you have unlocked"
It's probably pretty fair to say, it will be easier to do clue steps with as little areas unlocked as possible.
As someone with no raids under their belt. I'm worried about picking Desert and Kourend, but then getting stuck with tasks behind Raids I can't solo. I'm rocking that dad gamer energy, and I'm not always able to dedicate multiple hours without interruptions. So I'm hoping leagues gives me a chance experience raids, while still being able to solo them effectively.
13:57 the Accursed Sceptre is not the same thing as the new powered staff coming into the game. The new staff is coming in from Kandarin and will be worse than trident, but the Accursed Sceptre is the upgrade to the Thammaron's Sceptre. Its a very good weapon and for those that DON'T choose Kandarin and DO choose wilderness it is a great option to use instead, especially if a Double Cast esque relic is available with saved charges
It's cool how you've modelled yourself after your runescape character! Where did you get the hairdye to match?
LOL
Killer content, love these videos. Very excited to explore the region unlocking again with all the new content. Lots of inspiration for my last 2 Leagues, here's to the next! Cheers!
GOTR should be possible with just Desert and the starting region since Desert will likely auto-complete DT2 (otherwise it is impossible to complete), which has a Temple of the Eye as one of the prerequisites.
Honestly, it is really hard to decide regions for Leagues 4 until we know the quest unlocks. For example, Fremennik will likely auto-complete at least Making Friends with My Arm this time around if not Secrets of the North since there are a lot more bosses in Weiss now, making it a bigger part of the region. Likewise, Kandarin could auto-complete King’s Ransom as a way to “buff” the region so you can get piety without Asgarnia or even DS2 so you can get into Myth’s Guild and to Rune/Addy Dragons in the starting region (before I think you needed Fremmy to unlock DS2).
There is also the Soulreaper Axe issue with it currently seeming impossible to create with only 3 region picks. It possible they might do something like Twisted League where bosses could drop the complete item instead of pieces, though I still get the feeling you’ll need Fremmy for DK Rings to make any of the Ancient Rings.
W video. Excited for you to put out more content as leagues gets closer and closer.
just found your videos and i love how you engage with the community!
Thanks!
Wilderness weapons will also be easier to get when we can choose our own slayer tasks
In leagues 2 I picked areas with the things in that I enjoy the most, without a thought in the world about what else was in the region. This time I will be picking areas that don't contain horrific, long, boring tasks, that take all of the fun out of leagues.
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There are areas that don't contain horrific, long, boring tasks???
Lol good point, ok less long, horrific boring tasks.@@razorednight
I truly loved the Desert in Trailblazer 1. And I was valued for ToB because I had freezes. I'll be happy to take it again now that there's much more content.
Recalling last Trailblazer League, lots of regions came with autocompleted Quests. To whit, I suspect GotR might be auto unlocked in Mistalin, aka. The Starting Region.
Please more league stuff I'm loving these!
Some points if you want to go for the dragon without burning out.
Before choosing regions and after checking the tasks of the regions ask yourself:
1) Do you WANT to go through them to the end?
2) CAN you complete them? (example: some difficult pvm stuff might not be for everyone )
3) Do you have to depend on other players for a lot of those tasks? (mostly raids and minigames, but zalcano solo will be bad too!)
4) If you want to use leagues as an opportunity to learn new things, do consider if you will be able to hit your points goal.
And most important. HAVE FUN
6:37 I think it's worth addressing how drastically faster it is to get a bowfa compared to a tbow. It kinda isn't the same story imo. The main game rates are 1/400 for bowfa from CG, and 1/1000 for tbow from solo cox. So with 3x rates that's 1/133.3 vs 1/333.3 respectively. These numbers are gonna be just guesswork, but if you can do 6 minute CGs in leagues, and 15 minute solo COX, you'd be looking at at just over 13 hours of CG for leagues bowfa, and 83 hours for a leagues tbow. 83 is a lot of hours in a temporary game mode. Whatever the exact numbers are, I feel that it's a lot more reasonable to base your plans around having a bowfa, than having a tbow.
Of course you'll get lots of other good items on your way to getting a tbow from cox, but I still think that journey would be a lot more fun with a proper ranged weapon. So IMO it's not about just which region gives the true BIS item for a given combat style, but which region gives a good item fast enough that you can realistically base your plans around having one, and actually get to enjoy using it on your PVM grinds.
This is soooo true. Thanks for the math
As a dragon cup who picked Desert, Fremmy and Kandarin just pick the regions you think you'll enjoy the most 😸
Always enjoy your content 😊
A couple things I thought of when you were making your tier list (btw I love your leagues theory crafting and content). Kandarin still remains S tier for me because of one item you forgot to mention. The occult necklace is one of the biggest magic upgrades in addition to everything you mentioned. Also the Wilderness does have corp. I guess that's kinda cool if you want to go for trophy items :D
On the subject of people centreing their playthrough around a combat style like leagues 2: I am suspecting (and hoping) that it won't be like that again. Jagex said this league needs to have a completely new meta so we can't just copy builds from 3 years ago. And so I'm thinking that we won't have the same "choose a combat style to specialise in" type of relics this time around
I am excited for these pre-Leagues videos
Last time I picked Kandarin, Tyranwinn and Fremmenik. I remember not fully using prif, because I don't really like the gauntlet and never do a lot of zolcano. The area was still pretty fresh and cool to enter. Now with trailblazer reloaded I'll probably pick 3 regions I didn't take before. The game changed so much over the years (in a good way) so really looking forward to this 😁
KTF gang! I had good fun with these regions even though I never bothered with the end game. They're pretty chill, you get the Legends Guild, Lunar Spells with Ourania last recall was nice. Just a good QoL pick
If we get double attack speed relics again (and that's a big if) then the gap between Bofa/blowpipe and T-bow gets smaller. Whip would probably beat fang at nearly all content, especially with accuracy buffs from relics.
bro, stop. I didn't know you were a good content creator. I knew you as the guy who edited poo's videos. Then I found your videos on my recommended and was more excited meeting YOU at the last GDQ. keep up the great work.
Hahahaha I appreciate it dude! Yeah keep your eye out for the next GDQs 👀
Didnt know that about minigame prog--thank GOODNESS. I was worried about some potential picks. Thanks
Theorycrafting leagues videos are always so enjoyable to watch
Yea, I was thinking of doing Leagues for the first time and I haven't played OSRS in over a year. I don't really like doing bosses just casual easier content. Would be cool if you made a tier list for people like me to have fun with.
love the idea
You know I hadn't done fight caves at the beginning of the first Trailblazer, but I was running inferno attempts by the end.
If you're anything like me, you might find yourself doing the bosses even though you didnt intend to
in leagues 2 i picked the areas that i thought i was enjoy the most , Kandarin, Asgarnia, Fremanik and luckily i enjoyed it for the most part. kandarin unfortunately had the massive monkey lap grind and luckily there was the bug with the chompy hats so i got those for free. those two grinds alone are enough to put me off of kandarin this time.
i decided to start a second account and did desert/wilderness/Morytania and honestly had so much more fun smashing through revs and doing other wildy content
at the end of the day i think people should pick the zones theyll enjoy doing the tasks for, gear isnt something you really need to worry about unless your raiding and going for all the raid drops
While last recall does make gotr obsolete, its very possible that they add two new relics to the last recall tier that rival it in usefulness. So we may end up not even taking last recall, we'll have to wait and see what relics they add
Glad you addressed the desert from TB1, I was dragon tier desert wild Asgarnia. There was unmatched flexing potential running around in rainbow robes with my very lucky kq/kbd pets. I would be surprised if more than 10 players had the complete cerb boots master task.
There’s something to be said about regions that don’t have many players in them, you probably won’t be able to quickly enchant dragon stones for MTA, or 3t4g mine for 25m, sandstorm still goes hard though.
I’m thinking a more afk strat now, I want kourend/kandarin/asgarnia, which is the only way to get dhl. I can afk rune drags, wyverns, strong olm capabilities. Cannon for afk slayer.
Lmao love you bud. Can't wait to play with you in the leages.
It may be interesting to look at the sigils in dmm since it's very likely they'll grab ideas for relics from there. For example, clues in Leagues have always felt a bit underwhelming even with the minimum step relic, so I can definitely see them implementing a relic reminiscent of the sigil of the bloodhound which gives a 75% chance to receive a casket from any clue step
That's such a cooler system than just forcing minimum steps...
Also worth a mention, the viability of all regions may shift dramatically depending on what free quest completions are given.
Kandarin, Kourend, Desert. Im going mage and can do all the content here solo, which is why i didnt pick range since im scared of soloing nex. Gunna be rocking the smoke stick+ tome of fire, shadow, ancestral/infinity, tormented bracelet+sufferring. Gunna be kitted to the gills. Doesnt even matter if you dont 100% a region since dragon is static now. Also I really do hope that jagex will allow people to get skillcapes/maxcape without having the specific regions, it was a mega bummer to hear jagex say that 'the capes are too powerful, and you should have planned accordingly to get them' in trailblazer when i just wanna rock my 2277 cape... :(
I really hope they bring back the infinite jewelry relic but modify it to the point where when you pick the relic it just gives you ALL teleport jewelry (glory, combat bracelet, ring of wealth, etc) instantly. Would be a pretty compelling choice for early game.
Glad to see there are still noobs out there catering to the more casual gamers in our community. Keep up the good work, and early Gz on your Rune Cup this year
Damn what a nice mention
My favorite thing about leagues is being able to play the easyscape I yearn for. My second favorite thing about leagues is the return of our prodigal leagues daddy.
In TB1 there was a gm task for buying the crystal crown in tiranwynn. Wilderness was you bet chance of having a shot at that if you really wanted to.
Personally, still not picking any regions until I see some relics
I agree you should pick and play the region's that you want to have fun in and enjoy playing in 😊
Something to consider when looking at what region is what. There are several steps of the lumbridge hard and Elite diary that are involved and out. And I think that's something to consider that possibly Al KARiD is part of mistolin although I'm not sure how that was divided up last Trailblazer League
I've been looking for a range build, at first I thought Tiranwnn was going to be a must for blowpipe/bowfa. What I realized is the Blowpipe doesn't actually matter much, darts are still insane without it, Kourend gives rigour and a buckler, along with Desert for dragon darts and masori. Then potential of T bow and Dragon hunter c bow, plus dragon knife specs. Then that gives a free 3rd pick for Avas or anything you want
Nice vids!
Basing it around content I can do this time, I learned the hard way aiming for TOB when I didn't have friends to do it with. Now I'm confident I can do corrupted gauntlet, TOA and desert treasure II bosses.
I think whats more beneficial pre leagues is getting good at the content in your area. If going Tiranwn, you want to be able to do 5min CG kc's not 11minute. Zulrah without trident, zalcano with 2 man. Prif has too much engaging, early, and afk content to not pick it first. First leagues I don't have a holiday planned! Lets get that dragon cup :P
POGOGGGG yeah great idea!
One really bad thing about the wilderness now compared to last league is loot keys. Ironman can enable them and get your key of items and can just destroy them. Last league there was no risk to dying because you could get your stuff back, but this time if someone kills you an they have loot keys on, your losing all of it. Nowhere near as safe or afk as what it was last time. Plus with limited worlds trying to find a free revenant or even free wildy boss is gonna be tough.
why are you assuming jagex can't just disable loot keys for the league?
@@alexandrutalvan1340 yeah if they release something saying that they will then it's a great region.
I picked wildy last time, and no regrets. Several things: I like trying new things in leagues that I am afraid to try in the main game, so I explored the wildy. Second, the ornate rejuv pool is completely irrelevant with Ferrox. Third, the points in wildy were free, since they tried to balance points to each region. Fourth, I like clues and there were a ton of hard clue steps to do. Fifth, easy early rune shop. Plus, since everyone are irons, almost all of my interactions there were wholesome, which is a nice twist to experience in the wildy.
The only real downside was the lack of quest points available.
I actually use leagues to learn new content, so at least one of my regions will contain something I've not done in main game.
I will probably take this league to learn something like Gauntlet or TOB or solo CoX. I know people complain about doing leagues because of the fear of missing out on gains in the main game. But I don't see it that way. If I can learn new content on leagues where I've got nothing to lose, that is skill that benefits me in the main game.
Did you lose items if you were PK’ed during leagues?
@@elijah1437 you still lose any untradable items that are lost on death. But since irons can't pick up your other stuff, it just went to your gravestone. They coded it so that even PVP deaths acted like PVM deaths during leagues for that reason. I would assume they would do the same this time, but who knows. I could see them forgetting and someone, out of spite, buys loot keys, then just destroys them. But, that would be rare, I think, outside of maybe early on with streamers/UA-camrs. Like I said, most of my interactions were pretty wholesome.
Great point about ferrox! Right now im between my third region as fremmy or wildy because i didnt do either last trailblazer, and i was sad to miss out on POH things without fremmy. But with ferrox thats so much better!
How did the abyss work in the wilderness in trailblazer? Can you still go to all the altars even if you dont have the regions unlocked? Like crafting death runes if you dont have Tirranwn?
@@WishMish15 I honestly can't remember... I think you may have still needed the area to get to the altar.
Ive never really done raids so ik going to lock in KMD, gonna do ALL the raids!
For sure my main goal is to pick regions where I feel I will have the most fun. I tend to burn out at Rune cup and stop playing, so I'm just going to focus on trying new content 😊
My biggest opinion on leagues 4 is this. I feel like it was largely the most popular league due to the fact that most people played more than 1 account to experience all the combat styles. If they do split combat style relics again, i feel like it'll hurt the league, and if we're restricted to only 3 unlocks it would also hurt the league. It needs a 4th unlock or a 2nd "free" zone like karamja. I played all 3 styles, whereas other leagues i only played 1 account and had just as much fun. Just my little opinions.
Another good idea is using leagues as a way to practice bosses you are struggling with in the main game. I used previous leagues as a way to practice things like zulrah, vorkath and gauntlet to help me in the main game. Maybe I'll try inferno next
Honestly if Weapon Specialist Relic doesn't change then Zaryte Crossbow + Lightbearer and Ruby Bolts will be BiS. Regen 30% energy every 15s and spec goes from 60% spec energy to 20%. So you can spec 6 times per minute purely on natural regen. If you use last recall to restore spec energy you can chain gun bosses with 110 damage ruby procs. To me that makes asgarnia a suitable ranged option when you consider elite void/masori(f) if you go desert/pegasian/zaryte bracers too. To me it would come down to Desert/asgarnia/zeah Or Desert/asagarnia/Priff or Desert/zeah/priff. At least for ranged options and if the spec relic doesn't change. I fully expect the spec relic to be nerfed this time around.
I like the 19:00+ commentary would be great. I want to get venator bow for afk and unleash the machine gun.
Twisted Chad 😏
I’ve already decided I’m going range set up, no matter what relics, I’m just trying to decide on wether I go tyrawind, asgarnia, zeah, or zeah morytania, desert. Never done alot the game has to offer when it comes to pvm so it all appeals to me
okay, that was very funny ngl
The accursed scepter is going to be in tirannwn but the quest will be in kandarin. So another dual pick there
Oh snap! I had no idea leagues was on its way! Thanks algorithm for the late notice!
another banger
temple of the eye is autocompleted by desert unlock since it is a prereq for DT2
Fremmy (maybe tied with Desert, depending on how they autocomplete quests) should immediately take S tier in the region tier list for pet hunters. Baron is love, Baron is life!
So, what is the consensus? Just tell me what regions I should pick (I don't have much experience outside of Misthalin), please :)
LMAO yeah you don't... don't worry I'll make several more click bait tier lists
The accursed sceptre is the mage revenant weapon with the skull of vetion upgrade. @14:00
Edit: Misunderstood the way you worded the segue, to me it sounded as if you were calling the new staff the accursed sceptre. I'll leave my comment as is to shame myself.
Clues you get, I think they said they will restrict them to the regions we have unlocked only
What’s been missing in a lot of the leagues convos has been skilling focused tierlists. I’m a midgame noob who has basically never bossed, and I probably won’t in leagues. So I’m trying to figure out what will work best for a varied skilling leagues time. (Kourend, Kandarin, Asgarnia? Is desert still great without bossing? I enjoy tempeross)
Yeah I need the AFK/Casual tierlist
Okay - so a tier list of region combos that will hold your interest? Most varied content?
varied content is fun. I liked your idea of casual tierlist. Basically if you take away the high-skill level content (bossing mainly) what does the tierlist look like afterwards. I'm still interested in exploring new content, but I won't be doing raids/bossing. Last leagues I got a bunch of 99's that I had never gotten in the main game and tried out a lot of new content @@WeSkillNow
Took me a while to realise you were saying Dragon 😅
what did you hear?
@@WeSkillNow draygon 😜
Hey, I took tir, frem, asgarnia in trailblazer and hit dragon tier(didn't even take last recall). Dragon tier in shattered too. Only point I wanted to drop was that you have to look at the time it takes to get your points. Morytania was a horrible region in trailblazer, but one of the most taken, because it wasn't balanced in terms of time to grind. Example, you had to grind about 500 ToB, which probably takes over 200 hours on leagues. Don't just pick based on the popular opinion, think about your options.
More tier-lists! AFK especially
MrBeast in OSRS?! I wonder what regions he will pick
How about a video on the top 5 worst or most time consuming grinds per region. Dragon full helm, tbow, crystal crown (250m)nightmare orbs, crystal tool seed, golden tench, shadow, phar scepter, etc
Kandarin has Occult necklace
Thoughts on colossal blade with the melee relics?
I’d actually be very curious to see dps calcs for bowfa vs tbow at most bosses with halved attack rates. It wouldn’t be as simple as they’re both 2x better because tbow goes from 5 to 3 tick not 2.5 while bowfa should be 2x better than normal going from 4 to 2 tick
1 tier list a week till league is done =D
Last trailblazer they did NOT limit clues to your regions. For Twisted league they did, but not trailblazer. I think Twisted league was the exception since clue locations were so few it wasn't a big lift for the team to filter out the rest. But categorizing clues based on location and accessbility via which quests you've done would take an intern at least 6 months.
they've specifically said you can't get clue steps outside your region so they're doing it
(if only there was a chunk picker which already did this work...)
@@UnknownVir Thanks for the info! Glad they are updating that.
The wiki for Leagues 4 states "Players will start with 5x accelerated experience rate, and begin with level 3 Herblore, 5 Runecraft, and level 10 Agility to enable Herblore training, Runecraft training, and the use of the Draynor Village Rooftop Course."
If this is true you won't need the Wilderness for Runecrafting, or Karamja for Herblore. Something to consider.
"Enter the Abyss" miniquest
@@WeSkillNow You're right that's a separate thing. I must've confused that with Rune Mysteries.
Honestly, all theory crafting is moot until we get the task lists, and probably until we get the relics. Its static tiers this time, meaning if we know the task lists, and the thresholds, we should be able to just path the whole thing out and say with certainty where we would end. That one guy was right, this game mode isnt about specific drops, its about points. Spending a week grinding for a marginally better weapon is a waste of time.
Winter 2017 lol we have to go back in time yall
Id love a tier list for causal players that havent bossed before (other than like barrows and mole) . Im not a hgih level player but want to try and get the rewards for my account
I'll try to work on that tomorrow!
Going to take Zeah for farming 👀
Dude sounds like a young JordanP
No amount of convincing or anything will pull me away from Zeah/Desert/Kandarin, because I will be no lifeing raids in hope of getting the Shadow with full ancestral on the simple plan of learning what content can I brute force things with a shadow.
I think its important to try to do content you cant when leagues isnt around, for example killing bosses and raids you havent done before when you have buffs so it’s easier for new people
It's a great time to experiment
as long as I beat you, I don't care what I regions I pick in this game
WHAT
I think the best regions to unlock will be desert, kourend and asgarnia if you want the best armour setup/bossing grind
Honestly good call... and sadly you don't get to do ToB
@@WeSkillNow Yeah tob is great content but the rewards sadly don't justify the pick. The fang is the main reason I won't be picking morytania. Not to mention the tasks you will have to do between tob and nightmare. Regardless, I am looking forward to how to it plays out as we get more information.
Hey man I was wondering if you could make a intro /guide to leagues I want to participate this year. My goal is just to have enough points for the cosmetics or maybe even the dragon cup if i feel peckish. But my problem is ive no idea what this game mode is all about and how to get points. Thx for the video i love it (:
Thanks for the idea!!
Can you open up your cc as well??? Would be good to get the community going :D
*cough* Tier list for afk skillers who don't pvm at all like me *cough*
Kandarin was a must for me on that one
I'd really like it if you took a closer look at the word "Elidinis"
I'll work on that!!!!
Can you make a video convincing me to play leagues? I never played them, haven't played runescape in a while, and i sorta challenge you, convince me! :D thanks in advance
who up smelting they dart tip?
Why do I get the feeling that you're being terribly sarcastic? 😂
I might talk weird lol
14:44 for the real deal
Hey are you still playing? Leagues is in 2 weeks
We should all strive to be filthy casuals.
nice nice, make a me list, idk what to pick, i dont play the game anymore and i have to get my 4th throphy, so i gotta get points and not do hard content :)
I think you know you can do all the hard content mr dragon
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Tier list for people not interested in raids at all
Picking regions is for babies, I'm gonna get dragon cup without any
proofread, 2023 not 2017
That's a community meme about osrs mobile