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Welcome back to some Leagues videos :) today we're talking about every single region because... so much has changed since last time!
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My next video will be responding to your insightful comments here!
Before going to sleep gotta leave this comment before i forget - I noticed alot of people in stream talking about end game stuff yet from my own memory of playing, we will take forever to reach that (especially the casuals amongusus). Obviously there are obvious strategies like tree spirits for rune axe, zamorak people for rune scimmy ect. Like a video for a list of goals for people to aim to complete (since they give powerful upgrades to your account so those actions are given priority)
Kourend and dessert just hold so much value AND Asgarnia feels like a hard to pass on if you plan to melee at all. Kind of sucks you only get 3, but I respect it.
I think to some degree, people should think about what style they will use and use that to determine what regions they will unlock.
For instance, if you are going Magic, kandarin is BiS (torment/occult/trident), but it kinda sucks outside that. You'd want Desert for shadow, tome of water and ancients. Then you can go kourend for kodai, tome of fire and ancestral.
Ranged, I'd probably go tirawyn, Desert, asgarnia.
Wooah, what did that cheeky last comment mean? Do you know something that you can't reveal? I know they are adding a final tier and I wouldn't be surprised if that tier gave another region and they keep it hidden. Would be so fucking cool.
You can get some wilderness bosses
Tiran also has rune deposits.
But my fav indeed falador tiran and canifis
As someone that picked Desert as his first region in Trailblazer 1 and then later ended up placing in the top half of Dragon tier, it actually ended up being by far my favorite region and the one I have the most positive memories in. Something that a lot of people don't consider when picking their regions isn't just what content is there, but the quality of it. When I say "quality", though, I'm not talking about "How statistically good is the equipment from it?". I'm talking "How well can you tolerate doing that content, and ONLY that content through to its completion?" A lot of people didn't pick desert in trailblazer 1 because it had basically no endgame content.
What they didn't realize was that it was a blessing, not a curse-- The 'worst' content to complete in TB1 desert was full infinity, which was a goal you'd already get halfway to *just getting 99 magic as early as possible through MTA*. The next worst was sorceress' garden, but that also handed you level 90 farming. What's after that? 500 pyramid plunder chests for a master task. Know what happens when you do 500 pyramid plunder chests? Well, if you trained theiving in trailblazer 1 using pyramid plunder, and ONLY pyramid plunder, you'd hit not only the master task for 99 theiving, but you'd also hit the master task for 25m theiving for free as well, effectively making that task a threefer in terms of time spent.
Looking at other regions like Morytania, they had tasks that were ludicrously grindy by comparison- Nobody, not a single person in the league got all of the tasks done for Hallowed Sepulchre in TB1. Not a single person got either of the 2 highest-tier ToB related tasks either. Took Kandarin and want to make it into Dragon? Well, how do you feel about doing 2000 ape atoll laps? Fancy killing 4000 chompy birds for that master task? How about killing Kraken 3000 times?
In the end, desert's lack of endgame content meant that the region had less points, yes, but the points you got were obtained much faster, and you had lots of easy filler tasks. Every ancient teleport in the spellbook had a task. Each burst/barrage spell had its own task. Now that the desert has more content, I'd expect they'll be replacing a lot of the faster tasks with things like tempoross or ToA, and so the Desert will likely become another region like Morytania where nobody is going to max it out due to raid-related achievements. That being said, a lot of the unlocks like Ancients will still be VERY good and I hope that everybody who takes it this league is going to have just as much fun with it as I did back in Trailblazer one.
AMAZING write up! Thank you for these thoughts goat
Before looking in the comments, I was thinking "i dont want to do the content in desert", but I did do both p plunder in shattered relics and they weren't too bad.
On the other hand, I did 2k laps in the last two leagues... i told myself it was a yearly tradition, but now that I've had a gap year to think about it, I don't know if I want to again.
That's not even mentioning chompy's and kraken. Aw heeelll no. I got an enchanted triedent with task picker in trailblazer. Was cool to do then, don't need to do it again
Damn you cooked chief
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Thank you for the kind words! I also went and watched your VOD for making the followup video. The conversation on making a tier list for casual vs non-casual ones is an interesting one that I think is fun to talk about; Personally, I think that a better distinction would be active vs passive play, as both are viable routes to top league placement if you plan your relic and region route accordingly.
The margins are pretty lenient too, imo-- In the original trailblazer, my picks ended up being Desert-Kandarin-Morytania (with mage relic as my combat relic), and I feel that Morytania ended up being an almost completely wasted pick as a result of me being much more of a passive player that earned his points via almost exclusively AFK tasks. I only did something like 12 raids in total and wasted an entire week of the league at Nightmare to try and get a nightmare staff. Nightmare and Nex are time-traps in league. Even with the drop rate buffs their uniques are so rare and the kills so long that I feel like they should be among one of the last things you try to do if you decide to actually go for them.
By comparison, I got a lot more points even out of regions like Karamja. There were 1500 points related to doing the fight caves in Trailblazer and I got all of them over the course of a couple of days. Like, no joke, I spent two workdays AFKing the fight caves on the side because between the sanguinesti staff/ice barrage, swift casting, and draining strikes I could do every wave except for Jad AFK. I'd just put protect from magic and auto retaliate on and then just let the self healing take care of the rest. Relic choices make a massive difference in terms of what tasks must be done actively or can be made passive, and it was thanks to the likes of draining strikes that I was able to do things like AFK the wyvern visage and dragon full helm without having to bat an eye because I needed the bonecrusher prayer exp to max anyway.
Strongly agree, and Desert Gang was also the best community. I didn't run across too many people, and when I did we would often chat. The desert content was very fresh because nobody actually does much there in the main game other than blackjacking. Pyramid Plunder is fun. Sorceress' Garden is fun. Mage Training Arena is fun for the first half, then excruciating in the second half, but that's still an improvement over the content that's just dull. Definitely picking desert again.
Holy smokes its the league guy from the league videos making a league video
Hey no one invited you here
I think the only other argument for Wildy is Hard, Elite and Master Clues. Depending on what we get points for, it could be REALLY useful for speeding up points based around clues.
Good call!!
Doesn't the post on the upcoming league say you only get clue steps you have access to?
@@ticklordI think they’re just talking about clue scroll drop rate. Ring of wealth imbued doubles the drop chance of clues in the wilderness so they should be super common.
No mention of rev caves?
@@ocomeonffs You get lots of money doing that, but that's all. I regret picking Wilderness last time.
ornate pool requires fremenik and tiranwan due to anti venoms
Great video. I was wondering if you were going to mention whether we have only 3 regions to pick, glad you addressed that at the end lol. I think with all the new content and the fact we have Zeah this time, they got to up it to 4 regions for sure. I imagine the final region unlock might have decently high requirements though.
I think jagex is planning 3... but will change later
I wondered yesterday when you were gonna release a video. Welcome back Dr leagues
One thing I think worth mentioning for Wilderness is Revenants. While GP isn’t the most necessary in Leagues because we’re all ironmen, it can still be nice to have that huge nest egg to fall back on if needed. That said, I probably won’t be picking it unless we get to choose a 4th region. It has some sick pets that I’d like to chase and carry from league to league LOL
Good call!!
ooh pet farming is an interesting point i never would have thought of. that might dictate my decision o.0
Underrated perk that fremmy gives on top of the ability to make rejuv pools is the mythical cape tele which you can use to go to the galvek fight. Suicide to him is pretty fast and a ghetto way to get your stats back if you don't have an ornate pool/wildy
You've historically been the #1 Leagues hypeman !
Nice video! you golden hair is mesmerizing.
I don't remember which regions I picked in which order last time. All I remember is that I picked mage build and had a blast of a time.
But I do have a goal for this one - get another pet. I already have Thermy, Kraken and Rocky on leagues, which are the only three I also have on my main. I believe that this is not a coincidence, so, next league I intend to get a pet (or pets) so that I could get some motivation for getting them on my main as well.
Really enjoyable to see how the Desert made such a bounce from last time on the charts
In the end, no matter how much theory crafting I do by using Trailblazer 1 as a reference, the tasks I choose will depend on what content I enjoy doing, what regions have tasks i see myself realistically completing, and what relics I choose. Another aspect to consider is what bosses you want to learn with the relic superpowers?
In Trailblazer 1, I took to learn Zulrah, and after league I took my training to finally kill zulrah for the first time on my main for the diary task. However, even though I took Asgarnia, I avoided going to the GWD mostly, which did have a ton of tasks in. If I choose Asgarnia again, I would make sure to go there and do not make that mistake again. I am completely content on my choice on Kandarin since I did kill Kraken 750 times, made all zenyte jewelry, and got the chompy pet, but again, I may avoid doing monkey agility.
I personally am on the fence about desert because I really would like the skilling opportunities of tempoross, gotr, and giants foundry. On the other hand, I do not like sources garden and mage training arena, but if they have a minigame boost with those somehow, I really am not sure. Peer Pressure may make me get the area to join in TOA. Depends on how many tasks are within that.
I would really like to see how they are revamping and updating the task list. I hope they are putting a lot of time into them. The tasks and relics are the most important in the league, everything needs to work. Oversights are just not acceptable. As much as I want the league as soon as possible, I'd be more pleased if they take their time and do their best for the possibility of this Trailblazer being better than the last.
Man, I hope we get access to more regions. That would be absolutely sweet. However, I'm also one of the folks that really enjoyed leagues 3.
I think a big thing you are missing regarding what regions are best, is that some regions last time had more points than others.
So alot matters how well they have changed the tasks
if the endgame is getting a specific weapon, but then the content is kinda dead after that, then meh, gotta do all content in the area to get points
need to get my 4th dragon trophy so thats gonna matter for me atleast
Kan, Asg and Tir was my regions last time.
I'm thinking static thresholds will change how much that matters this year. Should be able to achieve it no matter what
One thing you're forgetting about the blowpipe is that even though it's nerfed, you could unlock rigour which wasn't available last trailblazer
Good call!!
Masori is also available, which helps out the BP a lot.
wasn't one annoying part about BP last time that you had to also pick desert or fremmy to craft/loot darts?
@@ThaFrenchFryI can't remember what I did with TAF but I didn't have an issue. Gwd drops steel darts as an option. But I know I had better darts and can't remember how lol
@@ThaFrenchFry You can also get Dragon darts from dragon implings so you can actually get them in any region
I appreciate these types of videos but in the end I will just end up picking the regions with the tasks I enjoy doing.
Morytania is my only must pick as I have always loved the region.
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Desert also has D pick now as another perk of picking it
Hey WeSkillNow, Squat here, love the theory crafting!!
Cant wait!!
this is what i needed!!!!
I'm not sure if this is correct but aren't Kourend and Kebos going to be 2 separate areas in TB2?
Kourend is an absolute must have for myself, looking forward to leagues 😊
Are we getting a leagues youtube series? Love ur content so you should!
Hey I appreciate it! My actual gameplay tends to underperform on youtube
We are gonna have a blast theory crafting this whole thing 👏
I wonder if Konar will take into account what regions people have unlocked. It would suck to grab a slayer task from Konar just to have the location in a locked region..
I wonder if they will balance point gains per region. For instance, last trailblazer picking certain regions unlocked more tasks and increased your total point potential. If that's going to be the same this time then region choices will be set based on that.
Or you can be a filthy casual like me and just pick the regions you enjoy playing in the most.
In the blog it was stated that the points in each region were similar, so hopefully they've done rebalancing
Twisted league is so fun that they should even rerelease them every half years even the same form
Really want a Twisted League 2 when Varlamore drops. Was my favorite league!
@@ashtonjgraves yeah 2nd twisted league was perfect way better than 3rd
As someone who chose KAM and got dragon in the first trailblazer, I am definitely grabbing desert. There’s just so much value in the desert now. Probably going to take Asgarnia again due to GWD. Just not sure what to swap Morytania for
Two things i think you've really slept on with wilderness is ferox enclave and the rev weapons. If you dont pick fremmy the enclave is incredibly valuable and the rev weapons with the new upgrades are very powerful even outside the wilderness!
Especially the Accursed Sceptre. I think the people who aren't picking Kandarin or Wildy are going to miss having a powered staff. Since those 2 are much easier to get than sang/shadow.
Wildy in F is, pun fully intender, wild. Infinite access ot resources, probably the best DPS spec weapon in the game, wildy slayer bangs for XP when you can pick your tasks, etc. I think you're really misvaluing all you get
The Desert is certainly tempting now, especially if we see identical or very similar Tier 6 relics to the first Trailblazer. Last time around, I just wanted a free (and better) blood fury, so I went with Draining Strike to get health and prayer back - but if Weapon Specialist is still around, and interacts with Lightbearer the way I think it does, it's going to be insane. 30% spec every 15 seconds? You might be able to just camp an SGS and constantly spec with it to achieve the same healing effect as Draining Strikes, but if you're healthy you can just unleash spec after spec. On top of that, WS set specs costing over 20% to 20% spec cost - so if that works with Adrenaline pots in ToA, you can probably just DDS spec P3 Warden the whole fight, lol
Tiranwyn getting slept on by a lot of people IMO.
I've been doing DPS calcs using the relics from TBL 1. Bowfa build even without Rigour is absolutely broken with 2t and the buffed t6 relic. It's such a multi purpose build that it slaps literally everywhere. Even at Nightmare which has 600 ranged defence its better than main game weapons. Obviously the melee options with relics will be better but the fact it can be used decently at non ranged bosses shows how OP it is. I'd say currently the Bowfa is the most Versatile OP weapon in the game. Chuck those relics on and it's bonkers. Bowfa on a level 500 lvl 4 kephri is 50% better than a main game full torva fang setup. Kephri has 300 ranged defence! Plus the fact that the bowfas power is basically at peak when you get it. Melee and mage both have so many big DPS items across the game. Bowfa and full crystal is basically at peak DPS with just the Tiranwyn unlock. Leaving you to have more freedom with your final region picks imo. I'm still debating whether it's worth burning a pick on Zeah to get rigour or not. Non of the other Zeah content interests me but DPS from rigour is so big it's hard to ignore.
*Also forgot to add. Blowpipe! TOA drops dragon darts and Full masori. With rigour this should make Blowpipe even better than last TBL! I can't wait lmao
Thanks for your research here!! That's crazy
Do you mind sharing the numbers / how you carried out the calcs?
@Chaos1044 Google Dps calc by Bitterkoekje. That has a full spreadsheet with all gear loadouts. There's also a checkbox on the right side of the page, which allows you to turn on relics from the previous leagues. Again, bear in mind that these calcs are based on relics from the original TBL. We are likely to get refreshed combat relics, especially with the intro of T7. The combat path might be very different. I just wanted to see how good relic boosted BP and Bowfa were compared to main game bosses you wouldn't normally range. And apparently its pretty fucking good.
In Leagues 2 my region choice was Kandarin>Asgarnia>Fremmenik. This time I would definitely change things.
I'm still torn between two possible routes:
Kandarin>Morytania>Asgarnia>(possibly)Kourend[ endgoal being Nex completion with potential Raids 2 and possibly 1]
or
Kourend>Morytania>Asgarnia>Desert[ Endgoal: all three Raids and God Wars]
A comparison of content between Leagues 2 time and today would be an amazing thing to have!
One comment for Desert in S tier: for me Mage Training Arena is a reason enough to lower it to A Tier but who knows maybe there will be double or triple points in it so its not so bad.
I had the same regions in leagues 2!
MTA will 100% have boosted points
Surprised ZCB and Torva didn't get a mention for Asgarnia. It gives 1/2 BIS Range armour, BIS Range gloves, BIS Melee armour
GOTR may requires the wilderness as well due to the enter the abyss quest
GotR is auto unlocked for desert
Desert will be my first or 2nd unlock... get that desert amulet 3 as it equals ornate pool plus 6 hps extra when u pray at the alter...
Great plan! just remember that it does NOT restore drained stats like an ornate pool does (I always forget this)
I need to rewatch this again. First time playing it aka leagues. I know i probably don't want desert treasure
You did forget about the best mage cape in game within the wilderness at the mage arena 2 minigame though! That is at least enough to boost it up to C!
Noob question, would getting desert automatically unlock all 4 DT2 bosses? Since they're all located in different regions around the map
Honestly... good guess
I think that giving the Desert a big plus with Guardians of the Rift is an oversight. With last recall, RC is completely viable with nearly any rune. And the exp rates will be SIGNIGICANTLY better than what Guardians of the Rift provides, barring a relic that boosts exp from minigames (which would be very niche and seems like a SRL fragment over a TBL relic). In reality, I think the only OP training methods in the desert are darts and Pyramid Plunder. A relic similar to Production Master would nullify Giants Foundry (unless it has a caveat to only need 1 bar of metal per sword); agility is better is most other regions, even some with lesser leveled courses, just because of the length of agility pyramid and the poorly designed nature of the Pollnivneach course. I think the big draw of the Desert beside TOA is how DT2 will work in conjunction with it. Will we get DT2 auto-unlocked in Misthalin because of the Leviathan? Or will we have to unlock the Desert to have access to any of the bosses regardless of their location? I think an A grade is solid, unless DT2 is requried for access to those bosses, as that quest provides access to bosses in 4 other regions.
I think DT2 is auto unlock in Desert only if wiki is correct
Im a complete newbie still learning so this is very useful :')
They're really calling the continent Kourend even though the Kebos Lowlands are on the continent as well. Is this like the whole Greater London vs London Proper kind of deal?
Anyway, a few thoughts on things you've said.
You mentioned amethyst being good for the blowpipe. Don't forget that making darts is locked being a DESERT quest. Last trailblazer when my blowpipe was "shredding", it was doing so with mostly STEEL darts from gwd minions, with a small stash of rune darts from dragon drops.
Another thing: in a mode that's confirmed to have last recall, GotR might not really be that prized of runecrafting method outside of the tasks associated with it.
Speaking of RC, i'm don't actually know how altar access through the abyss works. Acess to all altars could be useful if it works like that. If not idk, I'm just really looking for reasons to pick the wilderness. All the reward with none of the risk just sounda enticing to me. That clue strat seems pretty enticing to me as well. Clues have been pretty good points in every league. Stackable clues make for a really unique experience I find fun, and the fashionscape isn't bad either.
Lastly, I do think relics get slept on in these diacussions. In original traiblazer, me being dead set on the production relic over the gathering relic is what led me to choose T over F in the first place. Having to deal with all Zalcano's ores while not needing blast furnace made it a much better synergy. (In fact, at that point, I'd never set foot in priff, weilded a blowpipe, or known what a gauntlet was. It just followed what a guy told me to).
Relics can affect what kind of grinds you end up doing just as much as the regions can, so I'm gonna make sure I learn what all the relics are before I make my final region decisions.
Fletching darts does not require Tourist Trap! So you can make Amethyst and Dragon darts just like normal.
Smithing dart tips is locked behind desert, not making them
Leagues noob here. Screwed myself last league with my choices so I'm trying to do more research going in this time. Does Misthalin count or is it a freebee??
I'm definitely going Desert & Zeah.
Morytania is nice for slayer in general, Barrows, prayer training, etc.
Torn on the last choice but very familiar with Wilderness content. Landing a big weapon out there would be massive. Mage Arena, Resource Area, Agility Course, Odium/Malediction, tons of supply drops from slayer monsters/revs. I think you are undervaluing it a lot tbh. Love your info though and thanks for the video!
If we get the ability to pick slayer tasks like we had in leagues 2, it's going to be pretty easy to get all revenant weapons. If you were to pick zeah, desert and Wildy, accursed Sceptre would be your best mage weapon until shadow. It's basically a trident of the seas with one less max hit outside of the wilderness. It's a lot nicer than ice barraging everything until shadow. Especially since ovls and salts benefit powered staves a lot.
@@Muistimetalli myself and a few clan mates are planning to unlock wilderness area early on. We aren’t a big pk clan or anything, but it’ll still be fun. You should check out “Sith” clan and team up with us for leagues.
Good video. Not to be a downer but I followed you for trailblazer and I didn’t follow most of your advice and I ended up having a great time in Rune Cup. Good luck to you!
Thanks! I don't even think I followed my advice!
I’m starting with kanderin then going to Asgarnia for GWD then Zeah for Cox and either Mortyania or desert depending on which raid I want to do with friends
Masori loses a bit of charm without access to a good weapon and armadyl armor. I wonder if desert + asgarnia is a solid pairing for that reason? ACB + Masori / Shadow / Fang seems like an excellent loadout to tackle the rest of the game with, and that's ignoring Nex altogether.
hyped for the boosted attack speed.
I want to pick the three worst then get a super solid account just to mess with people.
Like you doing bosses man? Yes all of the wildy ones, the gauntlet, and the funny dragon in fremminik
Glad they're doing trailblazer again, wasn't a big fan of shattered relics
My man
RC training with last recall sounds like it would be better xp than Guardians of the rift
Great call on this
As some one who picked the desert in the original trailblazer just be prepared for mage training arena, lots and lots of mage training arena.
they are buffing minigame progression! Probably x5 at the start and the upward just like xp.
And also changing up tasks
One thing about the wilderness that I think makes it great is the raw cash youcan get from revs.
But how good is raw cash?? And what combo of regions could you end up with where you wouldn't have access to raw cash?
I know i want to go desert this time 100% i want to do some TOA. I would also like to do zeah but i thought they talked on steam of splitting into kebos lowlands and the north part. I dont want to use two unlocks for zeah so if thats the case ill need to rethink. If its one happy day. Desert, Zeah and than idk what end came i want godwars or femmy
This is one of your top 3 videos for me. Great production.
Also, I'M NOT PLAYING OSRS AGAIN UNTIL WE GET ANOTHER LEAGUES!!!
Dude thank you so much
Personally I'd put Kandarin down a tier, I think it's more on par with Fremmenik. The xp quests I don't think matter that much, I think it's really only worth considering for zenytes and piety, but like you said those things are pretty optional. I'm really hoping it's 4 regions this time with the addition of Zeah because I can't decide which one to eliminate from Desert, Zeah, Morytania, or Asgarnia. They all have a lot of content I want to do.
Piety requires Asgarnia too, which sucks hard.
It is not 4 regions, Jagex already confirmed.
@@asddsa8203 Probably for the better that it's only 3 regions. Forces you to make hard decisions and have a more unique path with interesting metas which is what makes leagues fun. I'm not looking forward to making that decision though, it's going to be a hard one lol
what magic weapon will you use pre-shadow if you dont go with kandarin tho? kinda requires you to choose morytania as a substitute fopr sang
The list has basically done a 180 from previously leagues due to how much content has been added to all the previously neglected areas. With Kourend now essentially be a required pick. By the time they do a leagues 5. They'll probably have to start breaking up kourend since it'll be way too content rich.
Kourend is SOOOOOOOO big
My goals this league is to get the Sanguine Dust since I got lil zik just before shattered relics ended, so i'll be taking morytania and i also want to pet hunt (i hunted the god wars pets in L3) and get the voidwaker, so i'll be taking the wilderness. and i think to facilitate those options, i think my best choice for third region is asgarnia for the defender, prims, and all the armour and weapons from god wars.
Awesome thought process
finally some reasonable takes
Wildy mage arena for god capes would be a good thing to think about, it is easy to obtain early on and bis magic cloak
YOU'RE SO RIGHT
Ngl, I thought about having kourend + desert + one other land mass, tumekens with ancestral and new relics could be busted af but also the early game can contain master wand and water/fire tomes, but also the mta has infinity robes for mid game so Morton isn't too needed for a lot of things beside mask and tob.
Edit: fangs also good in chambers, only issue is early game range since that's needed for most of the raid times, Morton also has good range weapons but I'm sure there's a chance of a rune crossbow via rune limb drop at fossil island or elite caskets
Early game ranged honestly is a huge problem
Almost forgot about Giants foundry if extra metal drops are obtained since that could be used as bars at foundry and give extra cash after turning in a blade
if you clean your glasses, I will give you a bond.
We're all Desert gang now.
I was an elfy boy in TB1, so I'm curious to see if that ends up viable in this league. Kandarin, tirannwn, asgarnia last time. Zeah is a requirement for just how much is there, plus desert for toa/shadow. What's the third one? Asgarnia? Tirranwn? Kandarin?
Morytania is dead if you aren't committing to melee. Slayer helm will be a relic (I probably won't choose it though)
If they add that mid level powered staff before leagues 4 then mage is 100% the play, with tumeken shadow and virtus/ancestral on the field, plus zeah rc for souls (I presume a relic for boosted multipliers, plus raiments from gotr)
I hope they have a final tier combat relic that doesn't commit you to typing, like either a special attack relic that sets your last recall to 5 minutes, a double attack speed relic that sets your last recall to 1 minute, or a "you can't miss" relic that sets it to 0.
Speccing became the name of the game before and I hope they find a creative way to nerf that strategy.
I also hope they don't give us more than 4 region choices this time. 3 was a bit too few but more than 4 is not restrictive enough to make meaningful choices. Part of leagues is about sacrifices.
I think Tirannwn is a must pick if you're going ranged, assuming we'll get similar cmb relics as we did in TB1. 2 tick Bowfa and 1 tick blowpipe are too good to pass up.
If you are instead going melee, I could still see Tirannwn being alright if you wanted a decent ranged setup regardless.
@@Muistimetalli agreed, I'm hoping hybrid is a thing to justify getting multiple styles so endgame isn't just shadowscape
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Without asgarnia, you can’t get torva or fortified masouri as both require require their respective got armor
I think Desert and Asgarnia is no brainer... But the third is between Kourend and Fremmenik. Depending on points, Fremmy might be easier if u dont want to raid in teams
I think you’re sleeping on Tiranwnn. Bowfa with range relic is going to obliterate everything. Imagine a blowpipe with the highest accuracy in the game and can hit 40’s (and not to mention it doesn’t require ammo)
Rly hope that 4 regions is a thing because im having a tough time choosing between my third but if we got 4 i can safely go down a good route
didn't mention the zenytes in Kand?
I did!
My man forgot Kandarin has the occult necklace. 100% req (with torm brace, too) if going magic with Shadow
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@@WeSkillNow Looking forward to your Leagues 4 content!
I started an iron 2 years ago and stopped playing my main. Feel free to add "Last Texan" if you want 😁
@LastTexan absolutely!!! O have yet to get serious on Ironman myself. I keep thinking I'll max first
@@WeSkillNow It's wildly addicting, especially the early-mid game. Gave me some Leagues flashbacks doing content that no one does on a main. I maxed it earlier this year. Now I'm chomping at the bit to level skills again in Leagues 4.
@@WeSkillNow You're almost at the 2.2k milestone. You got this, king! 👑
It's been stated by others already, but Tirannwn should not be C tier. It should be much higher. Especially if you're going for a range setup, which I certainly will be.
The complaint I’ve heard is getting stuck in rng hell at gauntlet can be maddening, but I guess that could happen with any grind.
Alright I'm down with B... any other bad spots?
I agree. I think it's insanity to not pick Tirannwn if you're going range. Bowfa and BP are very realistically attainable, and make for a terrific setup for your entire leagues experience. Even with the boosted dps and droprates it'll take a long time to get a tbow, and I wouldnt want to be stuck with a rune crossbow until then. And even then you'd want a Bowfa or BP for stuff with low magic level.
Love that you always come back with these videos every league.
Desert Treasure 2 bosses:
Vardorvis - Zeah
Leviathan - i don't know but I think it's Misthalin
Duke - Asgarnia?
Whisperer Asgarnia
So how is jagex going to do this?
Plus the rings are kinda unnecessary and grindy even with buffed droprates, plus you need fremennik to even be able to get the DT2 rings since you need to DK rings first. Based on all this DT2 is really overrated. Soulreaper axe would be cool but hard to get
I would still go desert just for TOA, it will be a really fun raid with the buffs and if one can get a tumekens shadow (we should be able to run like 600 invocation raids fairly easily so the purples should fly in) then I dont see a need for kandarin as we wont need a trident.
So I would go
1) prif for the bowfa
2) morytania need a whip
3) desert to do some toa
I do think asgarnia and kandarin will have the most tasks though so I might have to do one of those.
I also think jagex might change the regions slightly from the last trailblazer leagues
Great thoughts! Whip is available without more. I think jagex will give us dt2 SOMEHOW...
@@WeSkillNowI'm hoping they do something like they did in Twisted Leagues with some drops. Hydra Claw just gave DHL, Kodai Insignia just gave the Kodai wand. Maybe this devalues some drops but the idea that I need desert, Asgarnia and Fremenik to even craft Duke/Whisperer rings is a little ridiculous (not that they're BIS by any means, just an example).
why mory for whip if you can get blade of saeldr
Drops a bomb in the last 6 seconds of the video and refuses to elaborate
i fuckin loved trailblazer league, i was in the
My man sounds like Owen Wilson.
Not to say that this makes Wildy actually meta, but I don't think it's a dead pick either. Accursed Sceptre from the Wilderness is nicer than you'd think. If you're not taking Kandarin for trident, you won't have a powered staff until sang or shadow, and TOA without a powered staff wont be great. Accursed Sceptre functions almost identically to a trident of the seas outside the Wilderness, having 1 less max hit.
I also think gaining the Voidwaker is bigger than losing the d pick. It's by far the most accessible, actually powerful DPS spec weapon. Even with leagues droprates and relics grinding d claws or a nihil horn will take a pretty long time for a temporary game mode. If we have a spec relic like the one in last leagues, you are going to absolutely melt bosses with Voidwaker spec spam. Especially in TOA if adrenaline stacks with the relic. Voidwaker also functions as a decent stab weapon in TOA pre-fang. It'll be powerful and fun.
Thanks for your thoughts here!!!
Don't forget a new mid-game quest they'll introduce before leagues will give a staff between ibans and trident
@@nicholasgreen4921 I know, but I believe that's going to require completing Path of Glouphrie, which is going to take place in Kandarin as well. So you'll have the mid game trident and the real trident in Kandarin.
@@Muistimetalli true, or I could get master wand in the desert and kodai if I also pick kourend
@@nicholasgreen4921 I think there's a good chance it'd be faster to just grind out a Tumeken's Shadow just using the ancient staff or master wand instead of going for a Kodai. COX megarares were a long grind even in leagues 3 since the items are so rare. Meanwhile I'd expect lvl500 TOA to be pretty easy in leagues, and that would give you about 1/60 chance for a shadow per raid assuming 3x droprates.
You definitely would want to use the Kodai if you happened to pull one early though, and didnt have sang/trident/sceptre.
I bet we get 4 picks and mine will be asgarnia, mortania, desert, and zeah.
Ranged
Kourend first (bunch of early and nooby crap to do first to get early levels and etc out of the way, tithe farm for free farming experience to blast your way past some levels, cox late game)
Desert second - Ancient magicks, I intend to still do the inferno and I want to try for masori, and fang as its the perfect melee weapon w/out melee relic.
Elf land last - Late game skilling area and I want to have the stats to do gauntlet immediately as full crystal + bofa + blowpipe is all I need to do basically most content. Once all the crystal I need is unlocked, I will 100% be doing cox/toa, and thats basically it, will need lots of stamina pots : c.
Bofa w/ full crystal will be king 100% for ranged specifically this league, bofa is soo f*cking powerful, soo powerful...
The only thing I could see be legitimately better than ranged relic bofa w/ crystal armour is mage w shadow desert, kandarin, and w/e else.
Kandarin will 100% be necessary for mage relic, early iban, tormented + occult, besides desert, Kandarin is basically a 100% necessity for mage relic users.
dont think desert is s tier. GOTR is useless because recall rc is absolutely cracked. also, i really dont think youre getting all the dt2 bosses. only the ones that fall into the regions you unlocked. i think im going Kand, Asg, and either Frem, Zeah, or Mory
I also don’t think you get any real viable skilling unlocks either.
After TB1 they stated they thought recall was too op compared to the other choices, and it's more likely they nerf it with a timer like in dmm than find a viable way to buff the other options. Even still gotr isn't essential nor is foundry, but there's a lot of content there now. Temp gives fishing cooking and cons supplies/levels and unlimited water runes if that's your thing, mage relic may be the way if you go desert, but there are mines, 3+ agility methods, hunter, slayer, and bis thieving methods. Toa is huge for the supplies it drops, downside is no herb patch unlock there. Overall it's super solid now
It's S tier for anyone looking to do TOA, otherwise you'd be right.
You didn't even mention giant's foundry, desert has so many good new minigames.
ridiculously good
Mage capes from wildy, revenants
Question is, when do you think we will actually get leagues?
Winter 2017 :/
Lol 2017?
It's a meme for Jagex's announcement of when the mobile app would be released
Wouldn’t be surprised if people do Zeah, Morytania, and Desert to access to all 3 raids
I'm interested in this but the gear you end with is pretty bad before the raid grind
@@WeSkillNowyea I guess it depends on what you go for too. I’m not saying I’d do this. But I’m sure people out there will do this likely. I’m more of a skilling type approach player
The BIS regions would be Kourend, Desert and Asgarnia
Desert ammy is the same thing as ornate pool
Why is Dragon Pick a big deal? I'm pretty sure it barely makes sense to get for Irons unless you're going for 200M all in the main game.
Yeah honestly hearing myself say that while recording I was wondering why I said that. It's not a big deal. But it did take one of the only exclusives the wilderness has away
higher chance to mine ore, spec for +3 boost, gives higher max hits in both ToA path of Het and also guardians at CoX
It's mainly if you are going to be grinding a lots of minigames and raids. If stuff like Guardians of the Rift is fair game in this. A dpick is a fairly decent boost if doing like 7-9 point strategies
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Thank you worldofcubing8242
@@Dalgash96you are welcome SacRedSaGe96
Morytania is being slepe'd on.😅
Legit clever LOL
Asgarnia also has Cerberus.
Go all 3 Wildy Priff Frem Chad picks
Thanks for just a positive video on this. Saw another guy doing one and he was completely awful of a person,
Shoot :(
Dont you think this is a bit soon for a video about leagues? xD
Nooooo I'm super late!
my pick is Mist->Kand->Asg->Desrt, the wildy, mort , priff all dead content thanks to TOA and GWD, if they give us 4 picks, ill pick Zeah.
putting wilderness in F tier is actually unreasonable, it's at least C tier as it's still a good choice to take depending on your other choices. To outright say it's F tier is silly.
How dare you not mention Nex for GWD lol, that is a HUGE buff to picking Asgarnia. If you pick Asgarnia with Desert you can get a Fang and Masori to do Nex efficiently. Move Asgarnia to S.
wildy is my top pick most annoying contest do for uim
I suppose the value of each area is going to depend upon your goals for the league, so here are some of my thoughts.
If you are going for trophies the new static thresholds make an areas points per hour much more valuable than its total points offered imo. The task list will be getting changed up a bit, but Wilderness and Desert were both pretty good last TBL for this purpose. I could see Desert being bogged down a lot by all its new content like TOA, but I could see Wilderness possibly being a top-tier region for rushing a dragon trophy. Last TBL offered a lot of easily completable high-value tasks. The major changes to Wildy since last TBL have made it more appealing to take as a mid-game area. Wilderness weapons received a drop rate increase and have upgrades from the wildly bosses now too. Wildly bosses were reworked and can now be killed in minimal gear and offer pretty good skilling supplies. Revs give you a crazy amount of starting gp as well. The Wilderness content is overall just not that grindy except Corp, and you should be able to skip those tasks. We'll ultimately have to wait and see what areas offer the easiest points.
Something to consider is that we don't know if combat relics are style-specific or more general or how they will augment our damage. Tirannwn could potentially be a top-tier area for ranged gear because Bowfa benefits from the half attack speed relics from the last TBL more than a Tbow does because Tbow is a odd tick weapon on rapid (therefore it gets rounded up). The relics might also boost DPS like shattered relics (chance to double hit) and that would favor Tbow. A weird weapon like a Venator bow might also have neat interactions with relics like exploding attacks. A Zaryte crossbow or voidwaker + lightbearer could be crazy with a spec relic.
Another thing of note is we currently don't know if Desert treasure auto completes in certain areas. You might need both the Desert and Asgarnia to kill Nex because of The Frozen Door (could be a big blow to people going for torva). Muspah requires Secrets of the North and that needs Desert treasure to be started . If it does auto complete those areas could have access to ancients unlike last TBL. Soulreaper axe will also not be possible to make unless they expand the number of areas we get.
despite how broken relics are, aint no shot someone who hasnt tried tob in the main game is going to be able to do it solo. Also, you skipped nex.
Tbf, zeah/kourend is overrated.
My Top 3 will be Kandarin, Morytania and Desert (swapped for Asgarnia/Zeah)