In this video, I'll be showing you my two 6+ Year Old flowering apple trees. On top of that, I'll catch you up on the three smaller trees I started on 5/17/16 - which are now 71 Months old as well! As an FYI, we do have a few issues to discuss in this video... 1) One of my flowering apple trees seems to get some sort of fire blight from the pollinating insects every year - it loses almost half of it's flowers and parts of those branches. 2) A few of my 2nd series apple trees have bare spots on the branches through most of spring, and finally open those leaf buds as summer approaches. Does anyone have any insight as to what either of these problems are? Is it my soil or is there anything you recommend I do to circumvent those issues? If you'd like to help support the channel, please check out the membership link: ua-cam.com/channels/NA5isHAqEIalpI7ZeGL_7Q.htmljoin As you know, it's rare to get a tree grown from seed to flower before 4 years, let alone set fruit! But we did manage to achieve that on my first one at only 27 months old! Well, the other tree has set flowers this year - now the question is whether or not they will become edible fruits or crab apples... FYI - The tallest one is about 15 feet tall now with several branches! I plan on keeping you all updated on their progress until they perish or produce! Thanks for watching! Here is the entire series from episode 1: ua-cam.com/play/PLKJSapt21HvVCrplN3ha94auz6YrTiTCN.html I hope you are enjoying the journey along with me! PLEASE SUPPORT MY CHANNEL (if you wish) - when you shop through the following links, it helps me continue to put out more gardening content and allows me to pursue my passion! Heirloom Tomato Seeds: amzn.to/2rBxMjE Jiffy Professional Seed Starter Mini Greenhouse: amzn.to/2jNRHrg Organic All Purpose Fertilizer: amzn.to/2rCnvUp Grow Room Rack: amzn.to/2re2cZ2 Grow Room Lights: amzn.to/2rbLzg3 Sensei Pruners/Shears: amzn.to/2HK4o0T Gardening Gloves: amzn.to/2HJZBfV ❤ Subscribe for more Free Gardening Tips and Videos: goo.gl/f3D2tj If interested in connecting with me on other social media networks, here's my links below: instagram.com/robbackyardgardenerr/ facebook.com/robbackyardgardenerr/ plus.google.com/u/0/+RobBackyardGardenerr ua-cam.com/users/robbackyardgardenerr www.patreon.com/robbackyardgardenerr
If it does turn out to be a crab apple, it could provide you an opportunity to begin your hand at grafting. You can use it as a specimen to graft a handful of varieties onto the rootstock; fuji, gala, honeycrisp, Granny Smith, etc.
Some crab apples can be really delicious, and he spent years growing them, I don’t think he’s going to want to graft it, its 6 years of hard work and dedication
@@RapptorG15 it is now about eight years old as of the time of your reply. A graft can be as limited as using just one branch, not a sacrifice to the tree.
Your white flower tree is a "Spring Snow Flowering Crabtree". You should wrap trees with trunk guards or you can use paint. There are several UA-cam videos on tree wrapping. We paint our trees in Pennsylvania. Animals don't like that taste.
My son stuck some seed in his spider plant soil he brought home from school. Now he has 2 apple trees on his windowsill I potted on. Not 3 months old and about 5 inches. Note the shoots coming from the ground. The tree bought from the garden store would be grafted to a non intrusive/dwarf root stock. Seed started trees can pop up suckers that come up in the neighbouring garden. Lol. Good on you tho man.
Fruit trees need a lot of Potassium and Phosphor, the last one being critical. A great source of P and K is from Alfalfa pellets. If you look them up you will find many Macro and well and Micro nutrients. I sprinkle pellets all over my garden and trees to give them a boost and refresh my growing soils. Give them a shot see how it works for you, I amend in fall and spring with pellets.
My one apple tree from seed is a crab apple. So, I grafted a pear scion onto it. I checked online on it. The apple and pear are the same family. I read that if it's from the same family it should work. Then, I read on the other site that the two has different gene and it will likely fail. Well, I saw a pear scion with leaves coming out in the Spring time. Sign of success. Just have to wait to see if it will last.
It's been fun following the progress of UA-camrs that have planted grocery store apple seeds. James Prigioni got crab characteristics as well and his tree was also precocious like yours. Some growers use crab apple pollen for pollination, so this might be why you guys are getting crab characteristics. I don't think having a crab tree is a bad thing. Some crabs are sweet and good for eating out of hand, others are good for processing. If you really aren't going to use the apples, then you can always graft on varieties that you want and keep some of the branches for pollination. I've already started grafting my 2 year old seedling trees, I will leave some branches ungrafted and see what the fruit is like.
love seeing these updates! all of the apple seeds I sprouted last year came back strong this spring. I wasn't even sure they'd be compatible with my zone but they seem to be doing better than the grafted trees I've bought (which have mostly all died...).
Hey Rob. In regards to the apple trees, Im no farmer or anything but where I live everyone have apple trees and one thing that is apparent is that apple trees are heavily pruned. I would suggest you cut down the branches a lot. Best of luck!
You can take those ground sprouts and bend them over and put dirt on them by the tree, and they will root. Then you can cut the sprout off below the roots, and grow a new tree. There are vids on you tube on doing it. It's like air layering on the ground, using those ground sprouts. Get a good tree and clone those sprouts into trees. 🍎
I love your dedication in growing these trees from seed. It would be lovely if this was done routinely by parents as an experiment with their young children. I've got some lemon plants on the grow, about a dozen, all from seed, I need to take pictures of their growth over the years, I haven't for the first 2 months but I definitely will now.
Love the series, have been following it from the start! I have about a dozen 3 year old apple trees that I started from seed on my terrace, but they’re much smaller as I have to keep them in pots + they generally grow slower in the cooler weather in the UK. Have you tried to train any of the branches on your trees or to prune them to a particular shape? Everything I read online seems to recommend fairly heavy pruning in the first few years. Would be super interested to see if you have any success with grafting. I tried about a dozen this year but only one survived. I think I need a sharper grafting knife to get the whip and tongue cuts straighter to create more cambium contract.
Looks Like It has cross pollinated with a Crab apple tree. But some things to note. Prune the tree more in the fall it's still too thick and too tall. Also in the spring when the fruit sets in clusters prune the clusters down to either one or two fruits per cluster. That will result in larger fruits.
I failed from seed. Now, I start over again. I'm using Honeycrisp, Cosmic Crisp, Pink Lady, and unknown apple in a bag as the seeds. I got over 30 seedlings this year. I choose some big apples, hoping I will get a big apple instead of the crab apple. Wish me luck.
crabapples are edible, they just take forever to process... you have to cook them down and then press out the juice and you can turn it into wine or thicken it with sugar and make a jelly.
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I need to be more consistent. I fertilized them a few weeks ago and it was a basic fruit tree fertilizer recommended twice annually. Last year, I did not.
@@sierracharlie7293 composting is not enough as well. After the first rain, all the nutrients from compost are leached into the native soil and then, the compost is depleted of nutrients. Also, a tree would need big amounts of nutrients (kg/m^3 of soil). If one wants to provide that with compost, then the amount of compost required would burry the trunk, which makes compost a difficult choice.
@@diavalus A lot depends on soil type. From Robs description, sounds like a nutrients problem, not enough especially when they are working the hardest.
@@RobBackyardGardenerr, my apple tree immediately withered like it would die if exposed to sunlight even for just one hour. But it's very fresh when placed under the shadow of the canopy on the terrace of my house, in Jakarta, Indonesia.
You could try grafting a different apple to your crabapple. I have a apple tree I planted from seed that won't flower. I am considering trying grafting something to it.
In this video, I'll be showing you my two 6+ Year Old flowering apple trees.
On top of that, I'll catch you up on the three smaller trees I started on 5/17/16 - which are now 71 Months old as well!
As an FYI, we do have a few issues to discuss in this video...
1) One of my flowering apple trees seems to get some sort of fire blight from the pollinating insects every year - it loses almost half of it's flowers and parts of those branches.
2) A few of my 2nd series apple trees have bare spots on the branches through most of spring, and finally open those leaf buds as summer approaches.
Does anyone have any insight as to what either of these problems are? Is it my soil or is there anything you recommend I do to circumvent those issues?
If you'd like to help support the channel, please check out the membership link: ua-cam.com/channels/NA5isHAqEIalpI7ZeGL_7Q.htmljoin
As you know, it's rare to get a tree grown from seed to flower before 4 years, let alone set fruit! But we did manage to achieve that on my first one at only 27 months old! Well, the other tree has set flowers this year - now the question is whether or not they will become edible fruits or crab apples...
FYI - The tallest one is about 15 feet tall now with several branches!
I plan on keeping you all updated on their progress until they perish or produce!
Thanks for watching!
Here is the entire series from episode 1:
ua-cam.com/play/PLKJSapt21HvVCrplN3ha94auz6YrTiTCN.html
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you should paint the the entire stem and the thick bare area of the branchea
If it does turn out to be a crab apple, it could provide you an opportunity to begin your hand at grafting. You can use it as a specimen to graft a handful of varieties onto the rootstock; fuji, gala, honeycrisp, Granny Smith, etc.
Some crab apples can be really delicious, and he spent years growing them, I don’t think he’s going to want to graft it, its 6 years of hard work and dedication
@@RapptorG15 it is now about eight years old as of the time of your reply. A graft can be as limited as using just one branch, not a sacrifice to the tree.
I live in Mozambique and saw your apple series in 2018...today I have fruits too. In super hot tropics climate
Nothing better than growing from seed, and waiting to see what you’ll get!
Yes...😎
Your white flower tree is a "Spring Snow Flowering Crabtree". You should wrap trees with trunk guards or you can use paint. There are several UA-cam videos on tree wrapping. We paint our trees in Pennsylvania. Animals don't like that taste.
Nice, i started over a hundred last year, from seed here in Jamaica. Hope to see my results 💊👨🏾🌾👍
Thanks for the update, i cant believe its been 5 years of watching your videos
My son stuck some seed in his spider plant soil he brought home from school. Now he has 2 apple trees on his windowsill I potted on. Not 3 months old and about 5 inches.
Note the shoots coming from the ground. The tree bought from the garden store would be grafted to a non intrusive/dwarf root stock. Seed started trees can pop up suckers that come up in the neighbouring garden. Lol. Good on you tho man.
Fruit trees need a lot of Potassium and Phosphor, the last one being critical. A great source of P and K is from Alfalfa pellets. If you look them up you will find many Macro and well and Micro nutrients. I sprinkle pellets all over my garden and trees to give them a boost and refresh my growing soils. Give them a shot see how it works for you, I amend in fall and spring with pellets.
Thanks Kelly!
My one apple tree from seed is a crab apple. So, I grafted a pear scion onto it. I checked online on it. The apple and pear are the same family. I read that if it's from the same family it should work. Then, I read on the other site that the two has different gene and it will likely fail. Well, I saw a pear scion with leaves coming out in the Spring time. Sign of success. Just have to wait to see if it will last.
Any luck?
@@jacobfowler4426 It was a success. One of the graft flowered this year, but the hail storm knocked all the flowers down.
It's been fun following the progress of UA-camrs that have planted grocery store apple seeds. James Prigioni got crab characteristics as well and his tree was also precocious like yours. Some growers use crab apple pollen for pollination, so this might be why you guys are getting crab characteristics. I don't think having a crab tree is a bad thing. Some crabs are sweet and good for eating out of hand, others are good for processing. If you really aren't going to use the apples, then you can always graft on varieties that you want and keep some of the branches for pollination. I've already started grafting my 2 year old seedling trees, I will leave some branches ungrafted and see what the fruit is like.
Your doing a fine job with your trees rob and I'm sure you get the soil deficiency figured out
I had always used plastic tree trunk protectors to stop squirrel/chipmunk damage until the trees got big enough.
Thanks for sharing an update on your Apple trees.
Very cool Video! It's interesting to see that you can actually grow an apple tree from seeds amd get fruit from it.
Hi Rob! I'm moving in a couple of months and will finally get a garden!
WOW your trees are BEAUTIFUL!!❤️❤️❤️🥰
6 years already! I remember when you first planted the 3 trees in the ground, time flies.
love seeing these updates!
all of the apple seeds I sprouted last year came back strong this spring. I wasn't even sure they'd be compatible with my zone but they seem to be doing better than the grafted trees I've bought (which have mostly all died...).
Hey Rob. In regards to the apple trees, Im no farmer or anything but where I live everyone have apple trees and one thing that is apparent is that apple trees are heavily pruned. I would suggest you cut down the branches a lot. Best of luck!
Thanks brother!
Thank you for this inspiring video. My oldest trees from seed are about three years old, fingers crossed for surprises this year.
I Believe It's Spring Snow Crabapple Tree Love the white Blooms so pretty :) My Crabapple I Had Bloomed Pink flowers and smelled so Nice.
Hoping See More Video Update Rob Specialy on the Apple's Orange and Lemon 🍋..
Your apple tree hit 6 years. My apple tree hit 2 years recently
I just grow mine on last year on spring.
Nice - looking forward to hearing how it does!
You can take those ground sprouts and bend them over and put dirt on them by the tree, and they will root. Then you can cut the sprout off below the roots, and grow a new tree. There are vids on you tube on doing it. It's like air layering on the ground, using those ground sprouts. Get a good tree and clone those sprouts into trees. 🍎
I love your dedication in growing these trees from seed. It would be lovely if this was done routinely by parents as an experiment with their young children. I've got some lemon plants on the grow, about a dozen, all from seed, I need to take pictures of their growth over the years, I haven't for the first 2 months but I definitely will now.
Congratulations on 100k
I just found your videos. Thank you.
How Soon Are You Gonna Post Another Update?
We Are Patiently Following Your Progress.
Cheers
I love apples
Think it might be a crab apple, but hope not 🤞love this series
Try limewashing the trunk of your tree it may help
Did the pear trees grown from seed produce fruit ? If so, how was the quality?
Growing apple trees from seed is similar to playing the lottery: not likely to be a winner, but fun to play anyway.
Beautiful tree!
Love the series, have been following it from the start! I have about a dozen 3 year old apple trees that I started from seed on my terrace, but they’re much smaller as I have to keep them in pots + they generally grow slower in the cooler weather in the UK.
Have you tried to train any of the branches on your trees or to prune them to a particular shape? Everything I read online seems to recommend fairly heavy pruning in the first few years.
Would be super interested to see if you have any success with grafting. I tried about a dozen this year but only one survived. I think I need a sharper grafting knife to get the whip and tongue cuts straighter to create more cambium contract.
Any updates yet, on the tree that started flowering/fruiting second? I.e. were they indeed edible apples or crabs?
what do the flowers smell like?
Looks Like It has cross pollinated with a Crab apple tree. But some things to note. Prune the tree more in the fall it's still too thick and too tall. Also in the spring when the fruit sets in clusters prune the clusters down to either one or two fruits per cluster. That will result in larger fruits.
I have one the apple tree from seed.but i know that at my country the apple tree is impossible to bear fruits. love from Malaysia
Hi, please make an update about the biggest tree.
Have you grafted any of them yet
Not yet but do plan on it!
Thank You!!!!!
I failed from seed. Now, I start over again. I'm using Honeycrisp, Cosmic Crisp, Pink Lady, and unknown apple in a bag as the seeds. I got over 30 seedlings this year. I choose some big apples, hoping I will get a big apple instead of the crab apple. Wish me luck.
Likely crab apple, most apple tree flowers I know of are pink
crabapples are edible, they just take forever to process... you have to cook them down and then press out the juice and you can turn it into wine or thicken it with sugar and make a jelly.
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HAHA LOL
What area of the country is your house/garden? I didn't see it mentioned in the videos I've watched.
Texas. Zone 8a
Why are both of these bases so thin? Is it just how this species is or all caused by pests?
Its a she and she's coming in very nice your doing i great job
🙏 shalom 😊 👋🏻I have a apple plant in India that is 2 years old
But not coming flowering how many years it will tek time for flowering friuting
How often and what type of feeding are you doing mate ?
I need to be more consistent. I fertilized them a few weeks ago and it was a basic fruit tree fertilizer recommended twice annually. Last year, I did not.
@@RobBackyardGardenerr Not enough mate, plus fruit trees typically need a lot of water. Do you do an Composting ?
@@sierracharlie7293 composting is not enough as well. After the first rain, all the nutrients from compost are leached into the native soil and then, the compost is depleted of nutrients. Also, a tree would need big amounts of nutrients (kg/m^3 of soil). If one wants to provide that with compost, then the amount of compost required would burry the trunk, which makes compost a difficult choice.
@@diavalus A lot depends on soil type. From Robs description, sounds like a nutrients problem, not enough especially when they are working the hardest.
I do
Need another update 🥺🥺
WHO CHOSE THESE NUTRIENTS?
Area looks like the sun doesn’t hit it as well
It may definitely be the fence
It only gets 5 hours per day so you’re probably right!
@@RobBackyardGardenerr,
my apple tree immediately withered like it would die if exposed to sunlight even for just one hour. But it's very fresh when placed under the shadow of the canopy on the terrace of my house, in Jakarta, Indonesia.
maybe you're neighbor was spraying something on the otherside???
You could try grafting a different apple to your crabapple. I have a apple tree I planted from seed that won't flower. I am considering trying grafting something to it.
You never shown the apple fruit it’s grown.
Second
🍎BOOM!
@@RobBackyardGardenerr
When are you gonna do another update on the Apple trees?
I’m very eager to see them again
And the mango
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