Good video! A few criticisms though: - I would've added Texas Is the Reason onto the list, since they bridged the gap between indie rock and emo in 1996. I'd consider their first and only album the next canonical emo record after Sunny Day Real Estate's Diary. - Controversial as it sounds, I would've thrown in My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy and Panic! at the Disco onto the list as well because it was transitional from bands like Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional into full-blown, dramatic, swinging pop. It represented the mainstream peak and decline of the genre. Other than that, solid video.
MCR, FOB, and P!ATD aren't emo tho... theyre pop-punk. This is emo evolution, emo DID take inspiration from other genres such as hardcore, metal, indie, grunge, and of course post-hardcore/ pop-punk, but they're just influences, not actual emo bands, so they wouldnt fit in.
@@sabilityone Post-hardcore isn't exclusively for early emo and fugazi/husker du lmfao, it's an extremely varied genre. FOB and PATD were definitely nowhere near post-hardcore, but MCR's first two albums were. Also, the term "progressive punk" is laughable, but if it did exist, it ABSOLUTELY wouldn't describe bands like FOB/PATD/MCR. I guess it'd refer to punk bands that take inspiration from prog rock, such as the mars volta (well, only their first album, they were pretty much just regular prog rock after that), Dance Gavin Dance, Fall of Troy, and Coheed and Cambria. Also, in what sense did any of the bands you name take *any* inspiration from grunge or metal? I mean, there's maybe two MCR songs that vaguely resemble melodic metalcore (Thank You For the Venom comes to mind), but that's about it, it seems pretty incidental. FOB's hardcore influence is present but minimal, mostly only appearing as Pete and Joe's screams in a few tracks off their first three albums, but PATD has absolutely nothing to do with hardcore as far as I can tell. Both bands are a lot more rooted in pop punk/emo-pop than they are anything else, FOB practically starting off as Get Up Kids worship.
Needs a portion on screamo/skramz. Texas is the reason should probably be mentioned in 2nd wave. 3rd wave could use some cleaning up, add something like a newfound interest in connecticut. 4th wave needed snowing and brave little abacus mentioned. But overall this is very good though.
this list is pretty straightforward and not too detailed. A more detailed list would definitely include skramz bands, snowing, BLA, Street Smart Cyclist (pre-snowing), Make Me (third wave midwest screamo), and all those electronic-emo bands like Weatherday
This is a very awesome video. Looks like a school project or something. The desing, the graphics, are very interesring as well. I love the fact that you showed bands that are mostly part of the underground scene, even in the third wave. I think it's perfect. Falling in choosing bands as Paramore, MCR, FOB, etc. would be so predictable and kinda boring in my opinion. Great jobbb
though I love MCR, I don't think it would belong here, if you're talking about "real emo" they're far away from that, they could've very well appeard in the "mainstream emo", but still, they're closer to post-hardcore/punk rock/pop punk. I, particularly consider them mainstream emo (specially bullets and revenge) but "technically" talking they're not emo....
I'd consider Thrice and Funeral for a Friend to be more just straight up post-hardcore. I mean they have a few emo-ish songs here and there but they are mostly just post-hardcore. Everything else is pretty accurate though. Also, you never showed Silverstein.
i always found it strange that the promise ring was lumped in with other bands that have a different sound to them. since the promise ring is a lot more pop-py. not complaining, i understand that one of the members from cap'n jazz is in the promise ring so thats what fueled the relevancy of being labelled as midwest emo i guess.
Cool vid! Though I don't think the phase one should be deemed as a predecessor to the other three. Mainly, they're only labeled emo because of the lyrics but the sound is still pretty much post-harcore/punk rock. I just can't hear in the younger bands any elements from them. Maybe some riffs or style of playing but they're not doing it right.
@@natowens9488 How are you 16 but you're an elitist gatekeeper already. Music changes. My Chemical Romance are nothing like Sunny Day Real Estate Emo artists now just aren't strictly rock, more rap artists that are heavily inspired by old school emo, even have an emo look and lyrics Yungblud's gonna make this generation's Black Parade and you can't stop him
yungtrish.mp3 I’m not an elitist gatekeeper for saying what is and what isn’t emo. It’s accepted that MCR are not emo at all. Yungblud isn’t emo because he uses no characteristics of emo whatsoever. You can’t just call things emo and call people gatekeepers when you disagree.
The only my chemical Romance album that is really influenced by emo is their first one, their other three were all pop punk, and even then, there were other bands that had way more impact in the genre during that time. Green Day isn't emo in the slightest, they're purely pop punk.
@@recycledemo4648 No, it's not "all about the lyrics." If the only requirement for being emo is "sad lyrics," then some of the Beatles songs would be emo. Emo is a genre that started as emocore, a subgenre that grew out of the hardcore punk scene in D.C. during the mid 80s with bands like Rites of Spring, Embrace, Moss Icon, etc. It then combined with indie rock and alternative rock to create both midwest emo and what we now know as *real* emo. Bands like American Football, Brand New, Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap'n Jazz, etc. Green Day has absolutely no correlation or influence from the genre, they're purely pop punk. The only MCR album that has influence from emo is their first one. Their second one could *possibly* be argued to be part of the third wave emo-pop genre, but even that's a stretch, and it took much more influence from pop punk.
imagine rites of spring never existed...
This explains that emo music never died, its just the kids who gown up and theres not much listeners to this genre but the genre still ongoing
no it really didn't die, it just evolved outside of prog-punk and people stopped listening after that
Good video! A few criticisms though:
- I would've added Texas Is the Reason onto the list, since they bridged the gap between indie rock and emo in 1996. I'd consider their first and only album the next canonical emo record after Sunny Day Real Estate's Diary.
- Controversial as it sounds, I would've thrown in My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy and Panic! at the Disco onto the list as well because it was transitional from bands like Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional into full-blown, dramatic, swinging pop. It represented the mainstream peak and decline of the genre.
Other than that, solid video.
MCR, FOB, and P!ATD aren't emo tho... theyre pop-punk. This is emo evolution, emo DID take inspiration from other genres such as hardcore, metal, indie, grunge, and of course post-hardcore/ pop-punk, but they're just influences, not actual emo bands, so they wouldnt fit in.
@@sabilityone key word “controversial”. lmao at progressive punk tho
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@@sabilityone yeah they are, 3rd wace
@@sabilityone Post-hardcore isn't exclusively for early emo and fugazi/husker du lmfao, it's an extremely varied genre. FOB and PATD were definitely nowhere near post-hardcore, but MCR's first two albums were. Also, the term "progressive punk" is laughable, but if it did exist, it ABSOLUTELY wouldn't describe bands like FOB/PATD/MCR. I guess it'd refer to punk bands that take inspiration from prog rock, such as the mars volta (well, only their first album, they were pretty much just regular prog rock after that), Dance Gavin Dance, Fall of Troy, and Coheed and Cambria. Also, in what sense did any of the bands you name take *any* inspiration from grunge or metal? I mean, there's maybe two MCR songs that vaguely resemble melodic metalcore (Thank You For the Venom comes to mind), but that's about it, it seems pretty incidental. FOB's hardcore influence is present but minimal, mostly only appearing as Pete and Joe's screams in a few tracks off their first three albums, but PATD has absolutely nothing to do with hardcore as far as I can tell. Both bands are a lot more rooted in pop punk/emo-pop than they are anything else, FOB practically starting off as Get Up Kids worship.
Needs a portion on screamo/skramz. Texas is the reason should probably be mentioned in 2nd wave. 3rd wave could use some cleaning up, add something like a newfound interest in connecticut. 4th wave needed snowing and brave little abacus mentioned. But overall this is very good though.
this list is pretty straightforward and not too detailed. A more detailed list would definitely include skramz bands, snowing, BLA, Street Smart Cyclist (pre-snowing), Make Me (third wave midwest screamo), and all those electronic-emo bands like Weatherday
This is a very awesome video. Looks like a school project or something. The desing, the graphics, are very interesring as well. I love the fact that you showed bands that are mostly part of the underground scene, even in the third wave. I think it's perfect. Falling in choosing bands as Paramore, MCR, FOB, etc. would be so predictable and kinda boring in my opinion. Great jobbb
Just to add, I would have choose bands like Citizen, Basement and Seahaven for the last wave too. Also, you forgot to show Silverstein hahaha
by the way you had to mention Jack Senff and everything he's done for emo
im very happy to see that others are learning about origins of emo. Ian Mckaye and Guy P. are the godfathers
Really surprised My Chem wasn't on the list but still a we'll put together video.
I hope thats a joke
though I love MCR, I don't think it would belong here, if you're talking about "real emo" they're far away from that, they could've very well appeard in the "mainstream emo", but still, they're closer to post-hardcore/punk rock/pop punk. I, particularly consider them mainstream emo (specially bullets and revenge) but "technically" talking they're not emo....
I'd consider Thrice and Funeral for a Friend to be more just straight up post-hardcore. I mean they have a few emo-ish songs here and there but they are mostly just post-hardcore. Everything else is pretty accurate though. Also, you never showed Silverstein.
There is Silverstein in phase three EMO POP
They just said it on emo pop category, emo pop is mostly emoish sound bands, but count as emo in one point anyways
i always found it strange that the promise ring was lumped in with other bands that have a different sound to them. since the promise ring is a lot more pop-py. not complaining, i understand that one of the members from cap'n jazz is in the promise ring so thats what fueled the relevancy of being labelled as midwest emo i guess.
I think balance and composure would fit rlly well in revival category (4th one)
I know this video didn't come out when come in was out but weatherday would have been a great addition
im so happy to see Gray Matter on this list
I would've added the Van pelt, Texas Is The Reason, FAR, Chamberlain and Sense Field on the Phase 2 Tire
I think basement would've been a good addition for the 2010s.
At the drive-in's 90s output were emo to some extent, I'd argue
where’s weezer
Great vídeo! Used some of this in a text i've made, its in the references, i think the guys will come to watch :-)
Dude! No JAWBREAKER??? What the actual F????
what's the opening song?
empire! empire! i was a lonely estate - how to make love stay
A song with out of tune guitar that makes any musician want to punch through a bridge and watch the cars collapse into the the highway underneath
emo revival is just...chefs kiss
I'm still trying to understand how Thrice is emo... even though they're one of my favorite artists ever.
Embrace almost reminds me of The Smiths sometimes...lol
Morrissey's lyricism was a very large influence on early emo
@@gwgwgwgwgwgwgwgwgw right!
scramz needs to be talked bout too
Real emo ❤️
So is emo pop the same as post hardcore?
M P no
Pretty good for the 80s
Cool vid! Though I don't think the phase one should be deemed as a predecessor to the other three. Mainly, they're only labeled emo because of the lyrics but the sound is still pretty much post-harcore/punk rock. I just can't hear in the younger bands any elements from them. Maybe some riffs or style of playing but they're not doing it right.
It is deemed emotional hardcore and not the short of it, emo.
Great list. I wouldn’t say thrice and funeral for a friend are emo tho
I commend myself for knowing the first song lol
My bread and butter 🍞🧈
Great Video :)
Not perfect but not bad good job
start of the vid: shows the hated in the list
never shows them
why
i knew i fucked up somewhere smh. my first time making a video like this, next time i'll look out for shit like that
herrionm
Live laugh emo
Pre-hiatus fall out boy!
What about Pierce the veil, bvb, sleeping with sirens, falling in reverse and all those guys
@Chaos Genocide yeah that's right
They're not emo, more like post hardcore or alternative
HAHAHAHA that's funny
Agregale skallu y fall out boy ❤
Phase 5:
Lil Peep, Yungblud, Juice WRLD, Iann Dior, MGK
No
@@natowens9488 ok boomer you stick your whiny 80's garage rock then
yungtrish.mp3 I’m 16, not a boomer. Emo is a sub genre of rock music, and rappers aren’t rock. 5th wave emo is glass beach, origami angel etc.
@@natowens9488 How are you 16 but you're an elitist gatekeeper already. Music changes. My Chemical Romance are nothing like Sunny Day Real Estate
Emo artists now just aren't strictly rock, more rap artists that are heavily inspired by old school emo, even have an emo look and lyrics
Yungblud's gonna make this generation's Black Parade and you can't stop him
yungtrish.mp3 I’m not an elitist gatekeeper for saying what is and what isn’t emo. It’s accepted that MCR are not emo at all. Yungblud isn’t emo because he uses no characteristics of emo whatsoever. You can’t just call things emo and call people gatekeepers when you disagree.
Bro where is my chemical Romane!!?
My chemical romance is not an emo band
How could you forget my chemical romance and green day?
The only my chemical Romance album that is really influenced by emo is their first one, their other three were all pop punk, and even then, there were other bands that had way more impact in the genre during that time. Green Day isn't emo in the slightest, they're purely pop punk.
@@gabrielbennett9053 ya well their lyrics say otherwise
@@gabrielbennett9053 but I do agree that they where a little bit more punk than emo but still. It's all about the lyrics
@@recycledemo4648 No, it's not "all about the lyrics." If the only requirement for being emo is "sad lyrics," then some of the Beatles songs would be emo. Emo is a genre that started as emocore, a subgenre that grew out of the hardcore punk scene in D.C. during the mid 80s with bands like Rites of Spring, Embrace, Moss Icon, etc. It then combined with indie rock and alternative rock to create both midwest emo and what we now know as *real* emo. Bands like American Football, Brand New, Sunny Day Real Estate, Cap'n Jazz, etc. Green Day has absolutely no correlation or influence from the genre, they're purely pop punk. The only MCR album that has influence from emo is their first one. Their second one could *possibly* be argued to be part of the third wave emo-pop genre, but even that's a stretch, and it took much more influence from pop punk.
@@gabrielbennett9053 why don't I just say I dont agree and end it here because none of the shit you said made any sense to me.
Jawbraker?