HK M27 - Infantry Automatic Rifle - USMC Contract Explained
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- The HK M27 IAR (Infantry Automatic Rifle) is a spin off of the HK 416, and is a massive USMC contract. Today we look at the M27 and 416 A5/Recon Weapons Kit. We're joined by @teufelshundtactical and HK's US Defense Director.
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There was an argument in the Marines for awhile about whether they wanted a Drum/Magazine Fed weapon like the Singapore Industries Ultimax 100 which has a quick change barrel and weighs around 15lbs loaded vs the Belt Fed M249 at 17lbs empty. As an aside, the Ultimax 100 was designed by James Sullivan who redesigned the AR10 to become the M16 and later worked for Ruger to create the Mini-14. The Ultimax guys lost out and the Marine Brass wanted their own rifle that they, not Big Army where the program mangers for, like SOCOM tired to do with the SCAR program (everyone hates Big Army). The Marines used the replacement of the M249 as a backdoor to get a new rifle for the Marines. As a LMG replacement the M27 SUCKS. Belts are lighter, so you can carry way more rounds than you can in magazines. More importantly, is the ability to change barrels and maintain a volume of fire when needed. The whole "Accuracy Thing" is overplayed, as typically you are directing suppressive fire where you think the enemy is, sometimes using the dust kicked up by their rifles to target those areas, pinning them in-place so the infantry can either maneuver and kill them and/or hit them with heavier weapons. In built up areas, where engagements are closer and people are more exposed as they bound from positions, you saw a a lot of SAW gunners with red dots, zeroed for 300 meters, ditching their magnified optics. What really is needed is a lighter M240 replacement in 7.62x51 replacing the M249 in the TOE and not the stupid M5/M7 SIG 6.8 rifle.
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@@yusufraheem7586 you're correct, but what does that have to do with me saying I like their taste in watches and channel sponsors?
2004 - Fallujah
“These musket M16s are too long, we need something shorter”
2009 - Helmand Province
“These insurgents are engaging us from 500 plus meters, our short barreled M4s aren’t cutting it”.
2023 - Camp Pendleton
“How the fuck are we supposed to clear rooms with a 16” barrel AND suppressor? It’s like carrying a musket!”
If only the entire American military industrial complex could figure out - changeable barrel systems.
They should’ve went with a K can
Crazy how warfare evolves huh?
Then they’ll adopt the M7 to solve both needs. And then the M7A1 will be made, it will be green and have a bayonet lug per the marine corps request
you clear it by putting 40mm into the windows. Also recon has shorty uppers in the armory for what its worth.
Taking a page from Top Gear’s editing just works for you guys. At this point it’s literally Top Gear for guns. So big bore, large caliber, or how about high speed? Keep them coming your doing great work.
Thank you I appreciate that. It’s long been our goal to merge those worlds. Doing our best on the modest budget we have
@@1911syndicate No offense intended by this whatsoever, but you need a third guy for a little bit of comic relief. Then you'll have sealed the deal. I agree, top gear style is the way to go. Love your content and I've been watching basically since ya started. Good luck boys. Hope ya make a million bucks.
Yes James, joining the Marine Corps and having your gun in the armory 99% of the time is exactly the same as having your own personal 416.
so true! also i was surprised how completely unaware of how to clone an M27 these guys are. there's a dude on teh same forum james sits on all the time making M27 profile barrels.... and real HK bayonet lugs are like $70 now. You can straight up make a clone correct M27 by rebarrelling, re-handguarding an MR556 now.
It's just extremely annoying.
This gun is essentially a HK416, which is my favorite assault rifle of all time. So it's really nice to see you guys cover the USMC version of the HK416. Keep up the good work!
Check out the big brain on brad !
If I can be honest, I'd rather the M27 over the XM7. The inherant abilty to return fire and suppress means more to me than a full powered rifle round.
Both have their place I think, but the m27 definitely seems to be the more versatile one. Especially considering that most long range engagements already are and increasingly will be fought with artillery, drones or airstrikes.
You guys making movies now? More real guns than Hollywood, but surprisingly less bodies put under.
Doing our best to keep making better content
Whatever you guys do DO NOT HIRE ALEC FUCKING BALDWIN lol
@@1911syndicateI’d say you’re doing good 😂 that intro with the shooting was pretty great
The M27 is awesome. Being a gun nerd I was stocked to finally get these. It was funny when we got the M27 a lot of people didnt belive it could run full auto and have a cool bolt. So we took the automatic rifleman and one of us behined each of them and all we did was load mags so they could mag dump in full auto. After that our Nco pulled out a bolt and said I'll be damn thats awesome.
Crazy how cool the bolt stays
Wait, aren't automatic rifles illegal?!
Awesome video. I enjoyed watching the shooting. I really enjoyed learning brief USMC history leading to the acquisition of the M27. Always good to see you guys, James, and Robert.
Jake, you had the chance to get out of that sunroof and unload a mag while the truck drove away, send me a check for more of these fantastic ideas! Great video as usual 💯
So that was actually the plan. And just wasn’t feasible
@@1911syndicate safety always in the way of a good time 😂
I proudly volunteered to be a SAW Gunner when I arrived at my first UNIT back in the mid 90s. At the time I weighed 150 soaking wet. After one hump in the Mohave Desert, I quickly realized my mistake lmao. 2 years later, I couldn't get rid of it fast enough lol
Awesome video and content as usual. Super damn cool watching a video featuring my favorite weapons brand with one of my favorite instructors on the exact same range I've trained on with.🤘
I own an HK MR223 A3 which is the semi auto version of the HK416 A5. I own the version with the 11" barrel and it's an amazing firearm. Especially the ambi controls are neat. The MR223 A3 is also completely german made and the barrel is hard chrome lined.
Im guessing ur a cloner haha
Edit: also, is it gold
Legit!
I remember when they were still importing those. Pretty spendy but probably worth it because I think it’s been halted.
I carried one of these for about six months. I really liked it, especially over a basic M4 or M16 that some other guys still had at the time.
thats awesome man. could you share 1-2 reasons why? Thank you for watching and supporting jake and i and all the people involved in this appreciate it sir.
Sick
Weird how MARSOC, who could issue whatever they want, still prefers SOPMOD Block II or URGI M4A1s.
@@LRRPFco52 weird how a Tier 1 unit can and could chose form a plethora of rifles and still run 416 🤷🏻♂️
@@Chrisblau I helped Larry source and order parts for the HkM4, nothing special (furniture), so I've been following it almost from the start when he was with CDD.
The Unit had challenges getting anything shorter than 14.5" to run, but had always wanted a shorter option for certain tasks. They had been using 653s since Colt introduced them, then replaced them with early 723s around '84-'85, later Abu Dhabi 723s with brass deflector in '87, then transitioned into the M4A1 in '94.
They had even done rudimentary fleet testing with the ZM Weapons LR-300, but the build quality wasn't there and parts were falling off the guns (front sight parts) during CDD's testing, so it was rejected.
My point wasn't to be a wise guy, but to simply wonder why MARSOC isn't using their service's new issue rifle after all that went into it.
One of the initial responses to the 416 in The Unit was that it was noticeably heavier than the M4, which led to the lighter profile barrel in subsequent iterations.
My guess is that weight might have something to do with why MARSOC stuck with M4s on the SOPMOD Block upgrade path.
Content quality and information shared keeps getting better! Keep it up fellas.
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Thank you for the compliment and seeing some change and growth. Trying hard to keep leveling up.
Awesome video guys !!! Some of the best content on the platform !!!!!!
Thank you good sir very kind of you 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
The Marines never intended for the IAR to replace the SAW.
Roughly 2/3rds of the SAWs continued in use despite fielding the IAR. And the Marines also continued funding for a possible SAW replacement.
The SAW replacement concept was used as a way to get years of combat testing prior to the Marines then issuing the IAR across the board to their infantry.
Great video. Best part was Robbie saying, "already deaf brother."
Right? Man i felt so bad after that. he could've called a cease fire. 🤣
He didn’t even flinch
Thus video was a ton of fun to film
Great video production as always. Excellent deep dive into the history and development. Awesome, well done, thanks !!!
Martin you are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for the kind words and support sir.
Thanks bro
Thank you both. That was an incredible dive into the history and development of a piece of history. Sent it to a Vietnam Vet Marine friend... he's blown away!!! ... wishing he was in now !!!
@@martinhorst1858 thank you very much for the kind words. Jake try’s to add the right amount of information and entertainment. This series has a lot of both. Thank you again for the kind words and support and thank you to your friend sir.
12 moa vs 2 moa is a bit misleading. The DENSITY of the cone of fire matters. A sufficiently dense 12 moa cone of fire can increase hit probability, depending on what you're doing. Also, that reload may be faster but it's going to happen almost 7 times as often round for round or at least twice as often at the sustained rate. I got to run a squad with 1x 249 and 3x m27 and it was the perfect mix.
Man you guys went all out on this one. Awesome!
Had to!
Wow!!! What a great video! That intro was the best yet but I may be bias lol
All it needed was an alignment
You guys Fricken Rock... Killer Vid. AGAIN..👍👍
Great video guys
Thank you
Ummm. Sick. Thanks for everything that you Guys do.
It’s a good time haha
I’m loving the production and content lately boys.
Thanks man
Thank you sir Jake and crispy are working hard to level up
H K is amazing … great video guys 👍🏻
Thank you good sir
You spelled overpriced wrong
You guys would like the G28/417 as well. It's a great marksman rifle for intermediate-range type work. A.I for long range, day in, day out! Keep on with the Fjallraven pants. Picked up up on your recommendation and they are really nice. Ended up with Keb Lights and Vidda Pro ventilated as they are comfy and hard-wearing.
Ahh stay tuned
@@1911syndicate Oh I can picture you're grins then! I evaluated the rifle in the UK, so I have an awful lot of experience on that item. Hope you enjoyed it.
The IAR is cleaner then any m4/m16 version out there. Even after 2000 rounds it had less carbon build up then my SAW or m16 when I was in. However it didn’t replace the SAW, it complemented it. They did shoot under 1 MOA when they were new at 100 m. My rifle qualification went up by 10% for the previous 4 yrs when it was given to me.
We call these things the M heavy 7s when fully decked with an SCO, suppressor and Peq , only 7 pounds lighter then a 240 …. Also we don’t even use these as light machine guns , the saw is definitely missed
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Yeah the whole reasoning for this rifle seems like nonsense. I've heard multiple reasons for its adoption and they're all different depending on who tells the story but ultimately I've heard that a rifle that was more accurate at distance was needed and so they replaced the 20" m16 with 4x ACOGs with 16" HK416s with 3.5x ACOGs and also they had to replace everyones M4 with a 416 because the M249 sucks.
It makes absolutely no sense really. Obviously the USMC just wanted to replace the m16/m4 and had tried to multiple times but each time congress rejected the idea because whatever gun they wanted to replace the M4/M16 with was another 5.56 rifle and it offered no additional capability. So, instead of saying they were replacing the M4/M16 they said they were technically replacing the M249 BUT in doing so required a complete doctrinal change so EVERYONE should have an M27. Finally they succeeded in replacing the m16/M4 with a rifle that does the same thing but instead it has a piston mechanism. That's fine with me quite frankly. The M4 is genuinely dated. I think the standard issue infantry rifle now should be a Geissele URGI 14.5" and infantry MOS should be issued two uppers, one with an 11.5" barrel and a 14.5" or 16" with a suppressor. Also, all infantry rifles should have a match grade trigger like an SSA or a LaRue MBT2S. The rifle would be a little bit more expensive but really not that much more. It's a price I'd be willing to pay, as a tax payer, to better equip our soldiers for the modern battlefield. BUT, I also am into guns and can understand why such upgrades would be useful.
The KAC SR16 is what the US Military should really be using. Every branch should be using it or something like it. DI is superior to piston.
@nwaites01 the M27 does everything better than the SAW besides putting out a high volume of fire. That's it. Everything else, the IAR is leaps and bounds over the SAW. In addition, there are more m16a4 rifles and m4 carbines than there would be SAWs, so which one should the USMC choose to replace to make the most impact for the least amount of cost? The rifles and carbines because everyone has one, and not the SAW. It honestly was time for the SAW to be updated anyway.
With that being said, why would you issue riflemen a 10.5? They need the range to properly engage the enemy. 14.5 and 16.5 only.
They need to come out with mlok handguards and a slim line stock, for one. That's not going to take off a lot of pounds but it would be better than the buttpad stock with cheek riser and pic rails. Polymer ammo would be interesting too.
Cool opening
I would rather have a HK M27 rifle than the sig rilfe.
Obviously I'm a 1911 guy or wouldn't be a subscriber. But HK VP9s are the only striker fired pistols I run. Thanks for the cool video guys.
Yessir!
Goddamn I almost forgot about "No toilet paper in the head" pre GWOT money dump in the Corps 😅.
You experienced this also Brian? That is just INSANE man
@Chrisblau No toilet paper, collecting all the links for re-use, M9's with not finish. Hell we had ALICE packs and flack jackets in boot camp. I now know what it was like when all the WW1 veterans saw their kids march off with all the high speed space age equipment for their war.....fuck I am old.
I had a 10.3 HK complete upper that I swapped a 14.5" brownells heavy barrel into (M27 profile) and it's my favorite rifle. Pinned and welded dead air flash hider and a shorty "K " suppressor and it's so damn good. Just an aero lower, B5 stock and bcm grip and trigger. It's chunky yes but it stays accurate when smoking hot- where my other guns tend to open the groups up. I have a 12'' M-lok rail on mine instead of the 9" qaud rail but I want an 11" quad like on the IAR so bad.....if you don't mind the weight- even in semi-auto only it is a GREAT and very capable set-up. The ACOG/piggy back or EO-tech w/magnifier is a good way to go with optics on them......1-8 works too but your getting heavy. Thanks for this one gentlemen.......I love the whole M27 concept.
Too bad civs can't just buy the true HK quality rifles. HK sells the most cucked civ version rifles yet still one of the most expensive in the category.
I vote LMT when I want a piston AR.
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An MR556 is virtually identical to a 416
@@1911syndicate Like a lower-grade barrel and proprietary civ version semi-auto only parts?
@@JohnZ556 Why not have both? Cause I know a guy.......
I loved the m27 for what it is but an IAR is not what should be standard issue. With the LPVO and suppressor on a rifle that is designed to be front heavy practically is lost pretty significantly. The unbalanced weight significantly increases fatigue over time. H&K was the right choice but it should have been mainly 416s
you guys should try to get your hands on a Vudoo Gunworks Priest it's feature set looks really good and seems like it would be right up your alley
Love my Wick Stick, still long for my mp5.
Best hk gunsmith hitchhiker.
Top 10 for sure
I was just getting out when my unit got the M27 and they just started phasing them in. Got to fire it handful of times on live fire Ranges at Quantico and Ft Campbell. Loved it. Also great video and good content>
Hey no way that’s cool man. Thank you for sharing that. We enjoyed hearing the history, story, and why behind the Marine Corp going this route. Thanks again sir appreciate the comment and support 👊🏼
Thank you.
Thank you sir
Never seen the channel before but the intro earned a solid sub
You gotta love the convoluted work around the Marine corps used to replace the m4. Because that is what this rifle was and is actually for.
Good stuff guys
1911 syndicate putting out another HK series?! And some gray room stuff!!??!! I don't what i did in life to deserve such good fortune, but i am so happy right now.
Well you’ve got a handful more videos coming
@@1911syndicate Can't wait! The last series talked me into a USP9 tac. And it's cooler than the other side of the pillow. We'll see what this one brings.
Rather carry a m4. Reaching 308 rifle weight for 556 is not fun
I paid an ungodly amount of money for an MR223A3 just to have access to those sweet sweet ambi controls and non-bastardized barrel.
Jealous
what barrel length has yours? I got the 11" version and even tho it's heavy for what it is (because of the bull barrel), it's OK. Even with a suppressor on.
@@mrfunswitch 14.5”. It’s quite heavy and I don’t plan on running a suppressor on it. I picked up a Nefarious Arms A5 11” upper for that.
@@mrfunswitchhat ne Fake MR223/416. Die sind schlimmer als Chinesen was das angeht.
I learned so much from that video about the marines and my tax dollars. And the mag dump 3x and BCG to the face test really proves how cool the upper receiver stays.
Sweet 👍🏻
That Raptor reverse 180 attempt.... I guess I will let it slide as James is a great guy.
Oh the confines of the terrain were tricky
I can’t imagine being able to complain to a Gunnery sergeant about toilet paper. 😂 I should’ve gone to college.
The 20” .308 lav showed still my favorite if it’s got the s&b and scope cover/carry bag from Germany
I’ve formed my entire personality around the 1911Synd x HK vids.
Hahaha
😂😂😂😂 hahaha that’s awesome and should take you far in life.
You boys like all the guns I like!
Great mindless think alike 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Good guns
@@Chrisblau😊. IkR🤜🤛
Battlefield 3 is the reason this is my 2nd favorite rifle ( first is the M16 which is my favorite)
I plan on building an AR in the realm of the M27 I had in the game for a general purpose rifle ( which was a broomstick, light or laser depending on the map, and acog combo. God i loved the support class)
First, let me just say that I greatly respect the Marine corps their great con: they wanted a new service weapon, but didn't want to be stuck in a long, drawn out bidding war. SO! they put out a contract for a "SAW replacement," but wrote the criteria so that they could basically rule out any LMG. They then select the H&K, and then changed their unit make up to make everyone an "automatic rifleman." They just con'ed the entire defense industry and congress so that they could buy the gun they wanted. Pretty bad ass.
HOWEVER! what they did not do was adopt a weapon that can replace the saw. You cannot replace a belt fed, open bolt machinegun with a 30 round, box fed assault rifle; And, to be fair, They haven't tried to. They replaced the M16 with a rifle that is better at sustained fire and that as a combined unit you could remove the need for a lmg gunner entirely. I personally do not think this will work out, and feel that they should have pushed for a better LMG, but I admit that only time will decide the validity of the change.
I honestly think it makes more sense to just give everyone assault rifles capable of sustained fire (basically the M27). Part of the original assault rifle concept was that riflemen could switch between moving and covering each other with rapid fire, instead of having to wait on the machine guns to catch up with the riflemen before the next push. Spreading out the firepower in the squad also means the squad won't lose most of its firepower if the machine gun goes down. But I don't understand why Americans had the SAW either. Our infantry squads have one or two 7.62x51mm LMGs carried and manned by one machine gunner each. So I don't see why Americans need a 2-3 man team to operate an M240 in a dedicated machine gun squad at platoon level.
HK Fans: please give a civilian version of the MP7 or a non-bastardized 416 (I.e. chrome lined barrel). HK: No, we hate you. Also, the Marine Corp just wanted a new service rifle. By sneaking in the M27 they got the 416 without the red tape. Now you see pics of Recon Marines running around with short 416s.
German government regulates what HK can and cant sell to the civilian market. This has been covered ad nauseam at this point. Usually the next response is "this is America and if they really wanted to they could" the answer to that once again covered previously is "its simply not that easy, they are a German company that has to follow and abide by German law" its simlar to how we here in the US cant just export whatever we want wherever we want cause of government regulation.
God why can’t we have an mp7 hell an sp7 😫
@lemniscatelogos7917 german inport restrictions and strict import rules they have mostly with us cause with put import restrictions. I get that there's HK USA but they have to follow HK GMHB. Honestly, you don't want one lol. It's fun to shoot but to own I don't think it's worth it
Well hell fuckin yeah. I got a turnaround starting and was gonna pay off some debt. Now im thinking about the mr556 for sale
I would love to see this up against the Hcar, that would be a show
Epic intro
I'm not a rifle guy but damn I'd take that home anytime ..
Wouldn’t kick it out of bed
Not a rifle guy??
@@rifles_up2263 Im more of a pistol user...Hope thats not an issue .
Besides my country doesn't allow civilians to own Rifles...except 22 caliber rifles..
@@GuilePatrickthe M27 is a spicy 22 cal rifle lol
whats the optimal barrel length and profile for IAR at home?
does the can add a lot of back pressure? does the can always stay on the weapon?
Your mom tells me I’m handsome, too. Great video, boys!
She’s a nice lady
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Like the Top gear intro, you need a third guy though.
This is the only full auto small arm I ever got to fire when I was in the military.
I absolutely love me some H K my current build a 10.3 HK 416ish A5 also please get some ral8000 port doors instock please!!!!
Anyone know what can they’re running? Looks pretty cool.
So that's what the dad from Modern Family is doing now.
Yea after the show ended he needed a new gig
Yeasssss
Hey Guys I love my beloveit Corps. My question is since the Army changing over to the 6.8x51 caliber will the Corps change over to the Sig M5 rifle as well or will the Corps use the H&K 417 and switch from 7.62 NATO to 6.8x51.
If and when it's fully approved and issued, yes the Marines will adopt the M7 and M250. The m27 was a backdoor way to replace the m4/m16 in Frontline service. This is obvious when it replaced more than just the M249. It was also implemented as a squad DMR and eventually entire squads were issued M27 and still retained one or two M249s
I need lots of cold hammer forged and chrome lined parts..... and endless Pmags full of ammo
iar, great gun...(pause for effect).... that should have replaced the m16, not the m249. having to carry 22 mags, changing them every few seconds, was the most mind numbing things in application i had to do.
Damn why I feel that 2010s top gear intro for the opening review
I’m a loyal fan of top gear
I am definitely aware of the M27.
They talk a lot about the BCG staying cool under full auto fire, but bow much of an advantage is that? The bcg getting too hot was never a problem on the DI guns. The gas tube and the barrel are always the areas that will fail under a lot of full auto. And what they don't say about the piston guns is that the front of the handguard still gets super hot, to the point that you will have to adjust your grip further back.
Everybody is saying how this really wasn't supposed to be replacing the SAW, but rather it was a workaround for the Marines to get a new primary rifle (which the M27 makes way more sense for).
I just don't see how all that front heavy weight is better and more manageable, especially considering that the marines are putting suppressors on the muzzle. The thing is gonna wind up being just as long and unwieldy as an M16, in addition to being heavier.
They also tout reliability, but piston driven ARs are gassed much harder than DI guns, which then compounds even harder with a can on the front. These guns are going to beat themselves to death pretty quickly with all of that overgassing.
I'm glad the Marines got new rifles, God knows they needed new equipment. I just don't know if this configuration was the right choice.
Yoooo the Jeremys razors ad was a sick crossover😂
Not quite as sick as the rifle though.
hahah thank you dude
Wow a compliment on an ad. Is the world turning into a nicer place?! I’ll take it
@@1911syndicate yeah man, I watch DW pretty much daily and you guys are my favorite gun channel so the crossover is pretty neat😂
@@Chrisblau anytime man you guys rock👍
@@lukekirk7487 no sir. You rock. 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
The exville scene was bad ass except the driver left his rifle 😮🙈
Just in time for the M27 civilian clone to come out. No way to justify the price though. I've tried. I think I'll eventually pick up a Mr556 and go from there.
It's the rpk of the west.
As a civilian a mag fed, compact, high rate of fire rifle makes much more sense than a beltfed lmg. Most of the benefits of a beltfed are only useful with full auto.
When will the USMC upgrade the M27 to the HK-416a5? What about the heat mitigation system from Red Right Hand LLC? How about a 14.5 handguard?
They more than likely won't. This was a interim m4 replacement in all practical purposes and not a Saw replacement.
What are the differences? Isn't the m27 just a heavy barrel version of the 416 with a bipod? Switching in a shorter and lighter barrel should be easy.
The "eu" in Teufelshund should be pronounced like the "oi" in Toilet 😉
Greetings from Germany
Hello! I am the obligatory comment about how the M249 is still issued at the company commander's discretion and a squad is going to roll with an m240 anyway, and that the M27 really was just a way for the USMC to backdoor a new service rifle by circumventing congress. Please continue scrolling. Thank you for your time.
Lol 🍻
RAL 416 gang here! 🙋🏻♂️
People bitch about how overgassed and recoil-heavy the 416 platform is but not me nor any marine I served with ever noticed a difference with the M27 over an M4. I’ve only met one person in person who can tell.
So who's going to tell HK that Matt from DR is in dire need of some HK parts?
Also Chris can really grow a beard quickly....
PMAGs actually are 25% heavier than an Aluminum magazine. It’s a common misconception that polymer magazines are lighter due to them being made out of molded plastics. So there are no weight savings by using PMAGs, certainly not 2.5lbs across a combat load-out.
The Hk metal magazines which is what I was referring weigh 9oz x 12= 108oz which comes to 6.75 lbs.
pmag weighs 6.6oz x 12= 79.2 oz or 4.93 lbs. So 1.82 lbs in weight saved. Sorry I didn’t have the info during the video I’ll work on that.
@@Chrisblau thanks for clarifying. I agree that the PMAG does represent a weight savings when compared to the steel HK Maritime magazines.
@@hundkfan yes sir 👊🏼
Yeah its not a.light machine gun...its a heavier ar15
Love the intro 🤘
Haha was hoping you would enjoy it. Been planning that for a while
Thank you all for the good video 👊🏻
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@@1911syndicate 🥃
Ooh rah
Please tell me y'all asked about getting MP-7s, or, more accurately, SP-7s, shipped over here? 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
This has been covered at length multiple times. German government regulates what HK can or can’t export. It is not up to them. Just like the US government regulates what companies can export here.
@@Chrisblau Fair enough, and I did not know that and appreciate the information. Thanks. 🙂 Though it occurs to me that with all of the pull weapon companies seemingly has on OUR government, I'd be willing to bet that they could get around that if they really wanted to...
@@IvIidnight yeah also I was not trying to be rude or snarky if it came off that way. Yeah so I work inside the gun industry outside of this whole channel. I mean we all know how governments operate and how they can heavily dictate what and how companies do things. It gets even more difficult when those same companies work for and with the same government. You can imagine how difficult it is to navigate not making the government you rely on upset in anyway. Hope that kinda made sense
@@Chrisblau Soo...mine was absolutely was being snarky, sorry. The first one was said in jest, as I knew it was never going to happen. The 2nd one was me being sarcastic and implying that H&K could bribe somebody, The American Way, to get their government to change that. Apparently I misread your tone and was fighting sarcasm with sarcasm! 😂😂 After re-reading my comment, I didn't do very well on making it apparent. And now I feel like a dick. Which I happen to Identify as, so nothing new there.
@@IvIidnight nah bro not at all hahah. I didn’t take what you said or asked that way I just figured we were chit chatting back and forth. 😂😂 all good brother 👊🏼
How y'all like NC? If you stay here for about a week you can experience all 4 Seasons. 🤣
HK are selling these a grand a piece to the the USMC
Help me understand how this rifle differs in execution from the M-16? Its designed to shoot from a 30 round magazine in 3 to 5 round bursts. I can't see how the Marines gave up a light machine gun for just another rifle. The SAW is a force multiplier and I think this rifle is a step back to the days of the BAR. Personally I would hate to give up an embedded machine gunner, with a prolonged suppressive fire capability, for a few of these. Its a beautiful weapon and everything we expect from HK, but is it the right direction for a small force that needs heavy firepower?
It was a backdoor interim m4 replacement. They keep the saw in reserve.
From what I've read and heard, the m27 still suffers from the bolt over problem of the 416 when running suppressed
Because piston guns are inherently over gassed. They crank the gas ports way up and say "look how reliable this thing is when it's muddy and dirty!"
When you add a can, you wind up with all this extra back pressure, and now the action is moving way too fast. It's ridiculous.
@@donjohnson5172 Matt Pranka and Slade did a great interview together where they touched on this.
@@donjohnson5172yes, now look at your DI Mk18.
Unless they add drum mags or something, I wouldn't want to replace a SAW in battle with this. Mag dumping 30 rounders for suppressive fire sucks ass when you already have a 249 with 200 round belts.
The IAR looks like a great addition to the battlefield to work in conjunction with light machines guns. But no way is it going be able to fill the role of the SAW. Give the Marines the new SIG the Army has.
"whats in North Carolina?"... Disrespect a state that deserves it ya Dunces, the best state! Lighthouses moonshine mountains bbq etc. :)
Lol. No one let me try the moonshine
I was under the understanding that a pmag weighs more than an aluminum gi mag?
That opening, reminds me of Top gear when it was good.
It’s my all time favorite show
So, on getting an M27:
I've seen 34 year olds in boot camp
Clone chrome lined, correct profile barrels and real HK416 bayonet lugs are all available. Unfortunately the barrels aren't HK, but the bayonet lugs are. Buy an MR556, rebarrel it, attach bayonet.
It's taken a while but I am on that rebarreling path currently. I want an M27 specifically because it is a simultaneously based and incredibly flawed rifle.
Trijicon sells SCO model VCOGs, SDO model 3.5xs, and M7 RCO model TA31s (SDO's reticle in a TA31 4x)
full power PEQ-15s and PEQ-16s are available. You know. Randomly.
WHY ARE NT4 SO HARD TO FIND