A Deep Dive into Thomas Lost Media - Reviewed & Ranked

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  • @DanGamingFan2406
    @DanGamingFan2406 Рік тому +392

    "The Missing Coach" is definitely my favorite entry on this list. The Donald and Douglas introduction arc just feels kind of rushed without it and some of the recreations on UA-cam are actually really good and professional looking. Also, _The Thomas and Friends Institute of Innovation_ is absolutely insane. I still can't believe it actually exists.

  • @cloudracer07
    @cloudracer07 Рік тому +187

    The Thomas and Friends Institute of Information should have been a big sign that Mattel were gonna really screw over this brand in the long run. They had ideas to make Thomas way different than he was usually portrayed as long before the likes of BWBA and All Engines Go.

    • @CelestinaakaClonaClox9999
      @CelestinaakaClonaClox9999 Рік тому +25

      I think that's a bit of a stretch, but to an extent maybe you're right. I'm honestly happy it wasn't shown to the public.

    • @twistedaxles9126
      @twistedaxles9126 Рік тому +27

      The Institute of Information goes to show that Mattel uses TTTE as marketable shitpost.

    • @kurusu1892
      @kurusu1892 Рік тому +16

      @@twistedaxles9126 unfortunately, that's how the majority of people see it too...

    • @stepneydr_n.5561
      @stepneydr_n.5561 Рік тому +9

      ​@@twistedaxles9126yeah

  • @TracksideManiac
    @TracksideManiac 4 місяці тому +135

    Ok who else is coming back to this video knowing that Nic was somehow right about The Adventures of Thomas being a TATMR repeat?

  • @The_All-Seer
    @The_All-Seer Рік тому +317

    ironically, this video almost became lost media itself

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 11 місяців тому +43

      Technically Tug's original channel is lost media

    • @eggyt1153
      @eggyt1153 10 місяців тому +12

      What are either of you talking about???

    • @El_Zanahorios
      @El_Zanahorios 10 місяців тому

      tug's original 2 channels were terminated by youtube and most of his videos here are reuploads from his old channels@@eggyt1153

    • @tim3172
      @tim3172 10 місяців тому +27

      @@eggyt1153 TUT's channel was taken down due to copyright claims.

    • @eggyt1153
      @eggyt1153 10 місяців тому +7

      @@tim3172 :0

  • @newguy186
    @newguy186 Рік тому +145

    38:20: In the BBC's written archive center, there exist documents of the show's production, including a picture of James' model, showcasing what the faces looked like.

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo Рік тому +24

      This video was made before that was revealed.

    • @antonberglund117
      @antonberglund117 Рік тому +3

      Has anything from it surfaced online?

    • @newguy186
      @newguy186 Рік тому +2

      Look on the Thomas wiki.

    • @FinestHourYT
      @FinestHourYT Рік тому +2

      @@newguy186 not on there

    • @modelrailfan37
      @modelrailfan37 6 місяців тому +3

      @@FinestHourYT you don’t need an account, you get on without being signed in. I use it and I don’t have an account, the only thing you need an account for is editing. Hope that helps 👍

  • @burneyboys02
    @burneyboys02 Рік тому +248

    Not only the Pierce Brosnan's Season 12 dubbing is obscure but the fact that Gwyneth Paltrow was originally going to narrate this and the Great Discovery back in 2007 which would've made her the first Thomas female narrator, but she declined the offer. My hunch as to why is because Iron Man was probably in production around the same time as the Great Discovery. I can only imagine what it would've been like if we had Pepper Potts being a new Thomas and friends narrator.

    • @bartzacky9639
      @bartzacky9639 Рік тому +59

      This here. Plus, having a female narrator does give the feel for the audience like a mother reading a bedtime story to her kids in the vain of George Carlin being a grandpa reading stories to his grand kids.

    • @marcusbierman5310
      @marcusbierman5310 Рік тому +8

      Pepper Potts*

    • @burneyboys02
      @burneyboys02 Рік тому +15

      @@marcusbierman5310 Haha I just noticed👍🏾
      God I hate autocorrect fails.

    • @marcusbierman5310
      @marcusbierman5310 Рік тому +5

      @@burneyboys02 it's all good 👍

    • @TrainsCatsOtherStories
      @TrainsCatsOtherStories Рік тому +22

      Gwyneth... Paltrow...
      That is the last person I'd expect to be picked to narrate Thomas...
      And I'm sort of curious what it would be like if they went with it.

  • @babyshowfan3985
    @babyshowfan3985 Рік тому +129

    Timestamps
    2:25 #17. The Original Cut Of Thomas And The Magic Railroad
    5:07 #16. Sir John Gielgud Narrations
    6:55 #15. The Cut Season 21 Episodes
    10:26 #14. The Missing Coach
    12:42 #13. The Proper Season 7 US Dub
    15:20 #12. Cancelled Chris Awdry Book Treatments
    17:05 #11. The Thomas And Friends Institute of Innovation
    18:27 #10. Down The Mine 1983 Pilot Episode
    20:47 #9. Pierce Brosnan's Dub Of Season 12
    23:35 #8. Foreign Dubs
    25:30 #7. Dustin
    27:00 #6. Gordon's Snow Machine
    28:40 #5. The Original Draft of Day Of The Diesels
    30:47 #4. The Adventures Of Thomas
    33:09 #3. Jack And The Pack
    36:37 #2. The Sad Story Of Henry (1953)
    38:52 #1. Thomas The Tank Engine By Andrew Lloyd Webber

  • @Youhadabadday2021
    @Youhadabadday2021 4 місяці тому +50

    So, we have an update on the status of "The Adventures of Thomas"!
    Good News: Someone actually managed to get into contact with one of the producers and got hold of the first script for the movie!
    Bad News: Turns out the movie was in fact basically going to be "Thomas and the Magic Railroad" again, but with a darker, more grungier tone.

    • @DexPaws
      @DexPaws 2 місяці тому +2

      Where is this script I wanna see

    • @kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94
      @kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94 Місяць тому +2

      Thomas and The Magic Railroad
      Now with newly added “EDGINESS” and “GRUNGE”

  • @toon4thought
    @toon4thought Рік тому +55

    The fact we got a screenshot of what the 1953 Sad Story of Henry looked like after this video's original publication.

  • @christiankroemer4267
    @christiankroemer4267 Рік тому +120

    I would definitely like to watch a video that covers "the Thomas Media we never got" that would include proposed characters or models that never got off the ground.

    • @s.p.d.magentaranger1822
      @s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Рік тому +13

      I would squeal if he mentions Culdee. There was concept art for Culdee in CGI before BWBA came along and ruined everything.

    • @fanofeverything30465
      @fanofeverything30465 11 місяців тому +4

      I expect he'll make it one day

    • @Woodenfan
      @Woodenfan 11 місяців тому +5

      Man I would love to see something like that, just seeing any models or episode ideas we never got. It could go more into, say, Season 2 ideas or scrapped models/CGI characters. That'd be really fun.

    • @ThomasAndRandomRobloxGames
      @ThomasAndRandomRobloxGames 8 місяців тому

      @@s.p.d.magentaranger1822what?

  • @theamazingspiderman2604
    @theamazingspiderman2604 10 місяців тому +58

    Something I find crazy is that a fair few things on this list has since gotten some sort of update since the OG upload:
    Pack story outlines (and 2 full scripts)
    scripts for the Down The Mine pilot and The Missing Coach
    a massive chunk of the original Polish dub and 2 tapes containing missing episodes of the French Dub from seasons 2 and 3 have shown up
    We know what Barry's true basis is
    the 1953 Sad Story Of Henry shooting/camera script has surfaced
    Pretty cool imo

    • @LimpBizkitMix
      @LimpBizkitMix 8 місяців тому +7

      We also know The Case of the Puzzling Parts from S22 was planned for S21
      I’d love an updated version of this tbh

    • @olivermensinger6022
      @olivermensinger6022 4 місяці тому +2

      @@LimpBizkitMixand now, we know more about The Adventures of Thomas. We have a photo of the original James prop from BBC. And we have more photos from the Down the Mine Pilot.

  • @JonathanAsiamah
    @JonathanAsiamah Рік тому +55

    The entry that got me interested in was The Adventures of Thomas. It's a shame that we never got to see the finished film, as it did have some potential. I'm not sure if it would've been good or bad, but for it to be cancelled hurts.
    Hopefully, Marc Forster's Thomas movie wouldn't go through the same development hell.

  • @jmredguppy2799
    @jmredguppy2799 4 місяці тому +22

    30:47, update on this section: in June 2024 of this year, A UA-camr, Derek Smith, managed to get contact with one of the producers on The Adventures of Thomas and provided a early draft of the script on how the story would’ve went, providing details on what the engines would’ve looked like and what new characters it would’ve Introduced. And well, it had a cyberpunk/apocalypse theme tone where Diesels took over Sodor,Steamies were deemed useless, and apparently the World War 2 setting in the real world was an “allegory” for the steamies vs diesels plot, certainly was definitely something you didn’t expect for a movie based on Thomas(WEEEEEEESH).

    • @nursestoyland
      @nursestoyland 4 місяці тому +1

      Buddy, how is that video on my recommended just now?

    • @jmredguppy2799
      @jmredguppy2799 4 місяці тому

      @@nursestoyland I know right?! It came out 4 days ago (at the time this comment is sent) and I just got in my recommendation yesterday!

  • @Charles-xe4ow
    @Charles-xe4ow 11 місяців тому +23

    fun fact: Degas for some reason has one line in DOTD that was kept for unknown reasons, that line being "The steamworks is OURS now!"

  • @allison122477
    @allison122477 Рік тому +39

    Can we get a count of how many times he said “it is now stored away in Mattel’s warehouse” and used the guy pushing a box away in a warehouse?

    • @SnazzyGoober
      @SnazzyGoober 6 місяців тому +6

      About 8 or 9 times

    • @Waskotorowy
      @Waskotorowy 5 місяців тому +4

      Take a shot whenever he says it

  • @andydoms2001
    @andydoms2001 Рік тому +74

    We were robbed big time with The Adventures of Thomas WWll movie being cancelled! Let’s hope the Marc Forster movie doesn’t suffer the same fate.

    • @eggyt1153
      @eggyt1153 10 місяців тому +1

      Who is Mark Forster?

    • @andydoms2001
      @andydoms2001 9 місяців тому +5

      filmmaker that was announced in late 2020 to be directing a new theatrical Thomas and Friends movie.

    • @eggyt1153
      @eggyt1153 9 місяців тому

      @@andydoms2001 :0

    • @olivermensinger6022
      @olivermensinger6022 8 місяців тому

      @@andydoms2001looks like it will suffer the same fate.

    • @Facundito258
      @Facundito258 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@eggyt1153Marc Forster is a film director known for directing films such as: Finding Neverland, Monster's Ball, Christopher Robin and curiously World War Z. In 2020 it was confirmed that he will direct a live-action Thomas film. PB: the movie is going to come out, after Barbie's great success they are going to release movies about anything that can be made into a toy (even a movie about the UNO card game is confirmed)Marc Forster is a film director known for directing films such as: Finding Neverland, Monster's Ball, Christopher Robin and curiously World War Z. In 2020 it was confirmed that he will direct a live-action Thomas film. PB: the movie is going to come out, after Barbie's great success they are going to release movies about anything that can be made into a toy (even a movie about the UNO card game is confirmed)

  • @marcusblackwell2372
    @marcusblackwell2372 Рік тому +16

    Tug, I just wanted to say, thanks for this video. Without it, I wouldn't have discovered my favorite stage musical, Starlight Express

  • @marty6779
    @marty6779 Рік тому +10

    It's amazing to see what has surfaced just over the span of the last three years. From the David Mitton Sodor maps over the season 5 rushes to the photo of the James model from 1953.

  • @josephdaw3455
    @josephdaw3455 11 місяців тому +14

    Gordon shivering in his Timbers after diesel 10 zoomed by was my favourite part of the movie

  • @parkerproductions4546
    @parkerproductions4546 Рік тому +19

    22:58 Just to add, at the TomsProps event in October 2022, Simon Spencer did confirm that an executive at HiT at the time had a personal wish to see "a Bond actor" perform as Thomas's narrator, despite Simon Spencer being more in favour of the show's "unsung heroes", Angelis and Brandon. I can't remember the confirmed reason Simon Spencer gave for dropping Brosnan but I believe it was a mix of HiT wanting to go ahead with the full CGI switch and cost-saving measures.
    As for Lost Media, the Three Tramway Engines who were apparently supposed to have been introduced in The Great Race would be nice to see. As they were for the Vicarstown Tramway, it would have been cool to see what their personalities and character designs would have been like had they gone ahead in production.

    • @bartzacky9639
      @bartzacky9639 10 місяців тому +2

      For that Tramway Engines part, that has to be with another scrapped idea for the 70th anniversary of the franchise. IIRC, before Sodor’s Lost Treasure was greenlit, there was supposed to be another special that introduced Vicarstown and introducing the Tramway Engines but it never got off to the ground. Concept art of it exist

    • @teaganjeras156
      @teaganjeras156 3 місяці тому

      ​@bartzacky9639 I think Pierce Brosnan secretly owns an uncut version of Season 12 with his narration.

  • @454ChevelleSS
    @454ChevelleSS Рік тому +19

    I remember watching the thomas and the jet engine dvd when I was young, and I remember me rewatching those episodes on youtube for the first time in years immediately wondering why the music was different lol.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Unlucky Tug nominated Saltys Stormy Tale for the stand out episode for season 7 because of the original music.

  • @Iced_Cake
    @Iced_Cake Рік тому +45

    I love this video! Lost media is always interesting in a slightly creepy way… On another note, will you be re uploading the live streams?

  • @hudsontrainguy1217
    @hudsontrainguy1217 Рік тому +27

    The Lost Media has really caught my eye, especially the Pierce Brosnan season 12 dubs and The never made Model Cut of Hero Of The Rails but I cannot wait to see the full Down The Mine Pilot in 2025

    • @crazymogara2934
      @crazymogara2934 Рік тому +1

      I’m super hyped to but look at what Mattel is doing with the franchise Esther someone’s going to have to pull mi stile hist or someone leaks it

  • @Amtrak.and.CSX.Fan281
    @Amtrak.and.CSX.Fan281 Рік тому +16

    I hope all the season 12 episodes with Pierce Brosnan’s narrations get found soon, it would be nice to see all of S12 narrated by him.

  • @thesudriana016
    @thesudriana016 Рік тому +28

    Actually the reason why Pierce Brosnan was made as a guest narrator for The Great Discovery instead of narrating 3 more seasons and 2 specials was because of an executive decision by HiT era producer Simon Spencer who felt that Brosnan was not appropriate for a production on a smaller scale rather than a movie (but like I really don't get it).

    • @bartzacky9639
      @bartzacky9639 Рік тому +6

      Rumor also say when Brosnan heard on the switch to CGI, he immediately left due to him not wanting to voice a cartoon.

    • @teaganjeras156
      @teaganjeras156 3 місяці тому

      ​@bartzacky9639 ironic since he was an actor in Quest For Camelot a cartoon move. i also believe that Pierce Brosnan himself owns an uncut version of Season 12 that has all of his narration intact.

    • @teaganjeras156
      @teaganjeras156 2 місяці тому

      ​@@bartzacky9639 I think Pierce owns an uncut version of Season 12.

  • @BnuuyBoi2005
    @BnuuyBoi2005 Рік тому +17

    When I heard about The Adventures of Thomas, I was so excited to watch it. But it kept getting pushed to Late 2010, Spring 2011, and then 2012. Mattel even tried to finish the movie but they cancelled it in 2014. Man I was so disappointed about it. Oh well, at least there's going to be a new Thomas movie next year and I hope this one doesn't get cancelled. Does anyone else know other reasons why The Adventures of Thomas was cancelled?

    • @andydoms2001
      @andydoms2001 Рік тому +3

      I honestly wish I knew

    • @erickmorales25
      @erickmorales25 Рік тому +3

      I actually managed to find Shane Acker's email online and attempted to contact him. I don't know if he'll ever reach back, but I do hope we learn more about the movie

  • @IsleofPigsStudios
    @IsleofPigsStudios 4 місяці тому +15

    30:51 - 33:01 Sheesh. Looking back on this part of the video, the latter was definitely what would have happened. I honestly think we dodged a missile. I know we all hate AEG, but at least that included humans on Sodor. This canceled movie would have basically been Magic Railroad meets Bayverse Transformers with WWII and no humans on Sodor. We all thought we were robbed, when we were really dodging whatever disaster the film would have been.

    • @kwproductions6737
      @kwproductions6737 4 місяці тому

      How do you turn Thomas and Friends into a lame Transformers rip off

    • @teaganjeras156
      @teaganjeras156 2 місяці тому

      ​@kwproductions6737 why don't you ask the youtuber who made those?

  • @greatwestern57
    @greatwestern57 Рік тому +25

    Fun fact: in France, Thomas was called: “Thomas le petit train” which translates to “Thomas the little train”

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo 8 місяців тому +2

      So why does it say "Thomas et ses amis" (Thomas and his friends) on the home media covers? Was it renamed at some point?

    • @greatwestern57
      @greatwestern57 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, the show used to be called Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends in English speaking countries, but was then shortened to just Thomas & Friends and probably was in other countries too

  • @NitroIndigo
    @NitroIndigo Рік тому +23

    From what I can gather, The Adventure Begins is the best and worst thing that ever happened to Thomas & Friends. Good in terms of quality, but it caused a domino effect of delays.

    • @bartzacky9639
      @bartzacky9639 Рік тому +4

      But, in order to celebrate 70 years of the Franchise, they have to speed up their schedule to get it made during it’s renaissance era.

  • @solarflare623
    @solarflare623 Рік тому +10

    Therapist: gigachad Hatt doesn’t exist. He can’t hurt you.
    Gigachad Hatt:

  • @greatwesternproductions2857
    @greatwesternproductions2857 Рік тому +6

    As someone who loves both this series and mysteries, very glad to see this one back.
    Wonder if Tug would ever consider doing a Jack and the Pack film as per Tugs. That would be quite interesting to watch.

  • @Late_Jurassic
    @Late_Jurassic 4 місяці тому +15

    33:01 Let me be the first one to acknowledge the *ageing* of that part (and I guess the whole section).

    • @Youhadabadday2021
      @Youhadabadday2021 4 місяці тому +3

      Indeed. For those who don't know, someone managed to get ahold of the script for the movie, and as it turns out, from a plot perspective, it was literally going to be Thomas and The Magic Railroad again, but with a darker, more grungier tone.

  • @Toysonicandfriends2
    @Toysonicandfriends2 Рік тому +31

    Fun fact Henry Japanese voice is sonic the hedgehog Japanese voice

  • @Choukai_Chan
    @Choukai_Chan Рік тому +23

    As a German viewer I always wondered why I never got to see season 6 nor 7 as a Kid. Kinda sad that they just didn't translate them, as my firm belief is that Thomas did very well over here.

    • @eggyt1153
      @eggyt1153 10 місяців тому +1

      It’s kind *of* sad, not just kind sad. And you say German viewer. Just thought you ought to know since English is obviously not your first language 😊

    • @Choukai_Chan
      @Choukai_Chan 10 місяців тому +1

      @@eggyt1153 Don't wanna sound rude my guy, but I ain't stupid. I simply forgot an "er" and an "a" while typing ... but thank you for correcting my comment ... I guess?
      Yes I know I am not talking in perfect shakespearean english here, rather puttin on more slang, because I can't be bothered.

    • @eggyt1153
      @eggyt1153 10 місяців тому

      @@Choukai_Chan sorry. You said you were German so I just wanted to assist. Germans are typically taught German so English is of course not your first language. :,)

  • @wojtasagent
    @wojtasagent Рік тому +14

    Thanks for mentioning Polish dubbing. You said Mr. Grzegorz Fedorowski's name very well for someone who never spoke Polish. Greetings from Poland.

    • @Disknode
      @Disknode Рік тому

      Even ur profile picture is ur country 💀💀

    • @igorspolishproductions8107
      @igorspolishproductions8107 Рік тому +1

      yes yes just yeeeeees!!! 🇵🇱

    • @Disknode
      @Disknode Рік тому

      @@igorspolishproductions8107 We do not care what country you are from, it is not your identity

    • @Disknode
      @Disknode Рік тому

      We do not care what country you are from, it is not your identity

  • @pizzaplanettruck9761
    @pizzaplanettruck9761 Рік тому +7

    More noteworthy lost media:
    1. The George Carlin dubs of "The Sad Story of Henry" and "Edward, Gordon, and Henry". Both are now available on Digital, but until then, were lost as they were never released on DVD/VHS. The only release of either dub in the US was Ringo Starr's on "Thomas Gets Tricked". The only proof till then that Carlin had dubbed them would've been from people seeing them on Shining Time Station.
    2. Alec Baldwin's dub of "Jack Jumps In". Before Season Six got on Amazon Prime, this was lost due to lack of a DVD release, as "New Friends For Thomas" had Michael Angelis's dub due to the transition from Baldwin to Michael Brandon being incomplete. For some reason this episode wasn't on "Mud, Glorious, Mud", which had his dub of "A Friend in Need", which would've been lost otherwise.
    3. "The Green Controller" extended version. Season 10's "The Green Controller", like TATMR, has an extended version. Like "The Missing Coach", stills are available, including James at the Coaling Plant in his "Busy Bee" livery, and a crucial scene was axed: James, distracted by teasing, runs a red signal and collides with Gordon, and then gets rear ended by Toby.

  • @CaptainCat101
    @CaptainCat101 Рік тому +9

    Honesty, the idea of The Adventures of Thomas sounds exactly like Magic Railroad.

    • @andydoms2001
      @andydoms2001 Рік тому +3

      True, but the WW2 setting sounds so interesting and exciting, while it could’ve been another failure like TATMR, it also might have been very awesome! Who knows.

    • @dylanlyles9453
      @dylanlyles9453 7 місяців тому +2

      @@andydoms2001 Honestly, I think the plot involving a boy and his father kind of sounds like a rip-off of TATMR's plot with Lily and Burnett

    • @gordieboi2340
      @gordieboi2340 4 місяці тому

      This aged wonderfully

    • @dylanlyles9453
      @dylanlyles9453 4 місяці тому

      @@gordieboi2340 not really

  • @JustaMisu
    @JustaMisu 11 місяців тому +3

    fun fact with the missing dubs: the original plan in latin america was to dub shining time station into spanish in mexico, is believed that the dub was finished, but due to the close of the channel that originally was planned to air shining time, they didn't released the dub, later on the first seasons of thomas were dubbed in argentina, and that dub stayed until series 12

  • @BentoAUS
    @BentoAUS Рік тому +6

    I really hope that script for Adventures of Thomas will become found one of these days. Regardless of its quality, I imagine it would be pretty fascinating.

    • @andydoms2001
      @andydoms2001 Рік тому +3

      Especially considering the god awful baby show BWBA era and stupid All engines go reboot are what the series is kinda known for right now, a realistic World War 2 Thomas movie seems otherworldly for every being thought up, especially considering from more than a decade ago.

    • @ItsJustTrevor
      @ItsJustTrevor 3 місяці тому

      ... Yeah, about that

  • @s.p.d.magentaranger1822
    @s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Рік тому +9

    This Video: Talks about Lost Media
    Tug's First Channel: Technically Lost Media
    Lost Media within Lost Media! It's Lost Media-ception!

  • @josephmarrison4606
    @josephmarrison4606 Рік тому +7

    My favourites out of these are The Down The Mine Pilot and The 1953 BBC Pilot. I would love to see them both to see what happens in them, and what they are like.

  • @jonathanadair6847
    @jonathanadair6847 Рік тому +11

    The one I want unearthed the most is the proper US dub of Season 7. For purists like me, Hartshorne’s music in Season 7 is a poor substitute.

  • @letstalkaboutthomasthetrai2476

    I love this video, glad it’s back on UA-cam!

  • @amyrodgers4252
    @amyrodgers4252 Рік тому +8

    The original DOTD could've possibly been a sequel to TATMR. I think the movie could've worked much better if Diesel 10 was after Thomas, seeking revenge on him for helping Lady, the lost engine escape. But not just after him as in "chasing after him", i mean finding ways to emotionally and maybe even mentally break him apart before going in for the kill. The dark tones of it could've been Diesel 10, Splatter and Dodge cornering Thomas in the Smelter's yard, only for Thomas to manage in escaping. Diesel 10 somehow getting his claw on a truck full of dynamite and planning to blow up Tidmouth Sheds with the engines inside using it, in hopes of killing all of them. Another dark tone could be Diesel 10 using one of Thomas's friends as hostages. Now THAT would be dark. The whole "stopping Diesel 10" part of it could start with the other diesels realising what D10's actually trying to do and going "I know we're wanting to replace those steam guys but jfc dude 💀". Quite a dark movie it would've been if it was something like that.

  • @kj.themoviedestroyer.810
    @kj.themoviedestroyer.810 Рік тому +7

    Y'know I just recently had this theory about how the rebecca episodes could have gone if they were in season 21 as a 3 episode arc, I say this because these Confusion Without Delay and Chucklesome Trucks along with the episodes What Rebecca Does and Gordon and Rebecca Coming Through are all written by the same writer, Davey Moore.
    I suspect that gordon teaching Rebecca how to do things his way from Gordon and Rebecca Coming Through was originally part of the s21 version of Confusion without Delay since in the former narrator Thomas says that Rebecca is still a new engine even though she's been on sodor for about 2 years which means that it most likely was apart of the s21 version of Confusion without Delay.
    I also bring up What Rebecca Does because in the Confusion without Delay that got we saw her for a bit doubting herself of being as good as the others which see something similar in the former episode, so maybe this was meant to be a thing throughout her arc with the final episode of it being a mishmash of What Rebecca Does and the rest of Gordon and Rebecca Coming Through.
    Also most likely throughout all three of these there would be a subplot about Gordon missing Edward who just recently moved out of Tidmouth Sheds and with Rebecca coming to help out with the express maybe this makes him paranoid about possibly being replaced so he tries to make sure Rebecca doesn't become the second express until near the end of the arc where starts to think that maybe he's been too hard on Rebecca and then in the final episode of the arc Rebecca probably saves him from an accident and stands up for him when Flying Scottsman teases Gordon where he finally accepts Rebecca as the second express engine and apologises to her for how he's treated her, and maybe we see him have a talk with Edward and says he finally accepts the Old Iron's decision to move out of the sheds.
    Now this is all just speculation and I could just be spouting nonsense from my rear but I just got a feeling.
    Of course the only way to confirm this is to get into contact with Davey Moore somehow like how ThomasFan2002 got into contact with Ian McCue.
    Anyways here's how I think this could've gone (this with the assumption that Nia and the Unfriendly Elephant was actually the Rosie episode).
    Confusion without Delay: episode starts with Gordon pulling the express but he's clearly not doing as good, The Fat Controller notices this and figures it's time to bring in a new engine to help with express from now on and that's when we get Rebecca's introduction like in the actual episode. Next morning Gordon teaches Rebecca how to pull the express but gives her bad advice, and coupled with her faulty breaks, makes here not do so well. Near the end of the episode she then gets the idea to go fast enough to make extra sure she won't be late and maybe get Gordon's respect, however she ends up arriving too early and thus gets in trouble with The Fat Controller, she admits that she was doing what Gordon told her to do and thus Gordon gets in trouble aswell with The Fat Controller deciding to have Henry teach Rebecca how to pull the express, the episode ends with Rebecca worried that she might've gotten into Gordon's bad book but Henry assures her that it just takes a while to get Gordon's respect.
    Chucklesome Trucks: Rebecca volunteers to take a special goods train to Vicarstown as she says she's had no trouble pulling trucks back on the Mainland (as we see in a flashback she sings with them like how Salty did in his introduction episode). The others caution Rebecca to treat the trucks right because if she doesn't then she might have an accident which makes her nervous. Gordon however says that he doubts Rebecca can handle sodor trucks which makes her determined to prove she can to Gordon and confidently states she can handle any kind of truck no problem. Next day comes Rebecca pulls the train to Vicarstown and try's to join in on the trucks' fun but ends up having too much fun with them cuasing them to take advantage of that and make her crash. Rebecca then gets sent to the steamworks and laments to herself that she might've failed the whole railway and might never be as good as the others, with Gordon passing by and overhearing this starts to think that maybe he's been too hard on Rebecca and the episode ends.
    Final Episode (let's call it Rebecca Coming Through): Rebecca spends the episode still depressed about the events of the previous episode a d thinks ahe's not good enough to be apart of the railway meanwhile another engine (let's use Henry since in this version he taught Rebecca how to pull the express properly) that she does deserve to be on the railway tells her about to momments from there past where they were called an enterprising engine (specifically with Henry the events of Super Rescue and the book Henry and the Express, basically saying that they happened off screen st somepoint) and says that Rebecca just needs to wait for that momment to happen. Meanwhile Gordon has a talk with Edward about how he's (Gordon) been acting since Edward left and says that he just really misses him and wishes things can go back to the way they were before with Edward giving Gordon a talk about how change is inevitable and Gordon has to accept it which leaves Gordon to think. Near the end of the episode Gordon gets into a accident and Rebecca saves him and gets him and whatever train he's pulling to Vicarstown where just like the end of the actual Confudion without Delay Rebecca stands up for Gordon by saying she thinks Gordon is bigger than Scottsman. Gordon apologises to Rebecca for being rude to her and Rebecca forgives him. On there way to Tidmouth Sheds they stop by at Wellsworth were Gordon says to Edward that he finally accepts Edwards decision to move out with Edward happy that Gordon has accepted change and the two say goodbye to one another. The episode ends with Rebecca backing into the Edwards old berth, finally earning her spot on the Steam Team.
    That's how I think it could've gone, it's not perfect but hey it's better than nothing, again won't know for sure if this if how it would've gone unless someone gets into contact with Davey Moore.
    Good luck with upload the rest of your videos tug (really want to see the Thomas Debunked videos reuploaded), see ya next time.

  • @HeartL0cked
    @HeartL0cked 5 місяців тому +4

    Oh. My. God. I think I know what was lost in D. O. T. D' original script from what I've watched.
    The reason why Diesel 10 and the diesels tried to destroy the SteamWorks was so they can try to kill the steam engines and the reason why Percy was forced not to leave was because If he left, he would be scrapped. And the reason why they are doing this is because of Thomas in the previous movie.

  • @connorflaherty175
    @connorflaherty175 9 місяців тому +11

    The fact that there IS a Trainz model of Gordon’s snow-blowing machine means that reference photos must exist.

  • @Rashid_Reviews
    @Rashid_Reviews Рік тому +5

    Truly an interesting video, while not impressive or that big, it’s a personal favorite of mine since I’ve always been interested in lost media in general, so Thomas lost media is the perfect combination for me, definitely a video to remember

  • @daltongalloway
    @daltongalloway 10 місяців тому +5

    18:10
    Company: Hi we want to sell Thomas products.
    Mattel: Cool, cool. But do you want to see some crazy shit first?

  • @ThomasFisher-jr6bn
    @ThomasFisher-jr6bn Рік тому +12

    We now have a picture of James from The Sad Story of Henry (1953) which shows us that he was likely made with the tank engine model.

  • @inaciosthirdstudio
    @inaciosthirdstudio Рік тому +12

    I could be honest. Andrew Lloyd Webber would’ve done a great job at this Thomas cartoon he had planned. Although the designs on James, Gordon and Henry’s faces sort of remind me of Jimmy Durante or perhaps Larry Fine of the Three Stooges. I don’t if it’s the nose or anything. But that’s kinda what it reminds me of.

  • @tudorbrancuturcu5996
    @tudorbrancuturcu5996 3 місяці тому +1

    In Romania, Season 8 was on DVD twice in 2007-2008 and 2012. Season 1-2 were put on DVD and that was it!

  • @garrettthesmallengine4675
    @garrettthesmallengine4675 Рік тому +13

    I really hope they do release the pilot for Thomas’ 80th anniversary in 2025. But it’s May 3, 2023 and I don’t think I can wait 2 years 😂 but just like Tug says “Only time will tell”

  • @PeterSam427
    @PeterSam427 Рік тому

    This is i think my favorite video from you and im so glad you were able to re-upload it and I hope all else goes well in the process of re-uploading other videos

  • @christopherwall2121
    @christopherwall2121 Рік тому +4

    Shane Acker has had like ten projects that all got canned, including this Thomas movie. It's like, once he had his one big success, the industry decided that no, they're done with him.

  • @Engineer12307
    @Engineer12307 3 місяці тому +2

    The idea of a real thomas movie is amazing! I would be so exited to see a collab with thomas and the polar express!

  • @King_Kavin25
    @King_Kavin25 Рік тому +7

    At 40:33 I got Jumpscared by AEG. Thanks for that

  • @CapitalCityKate
    @CapitalCityKate Рік тому +3

    Two illusive pieces of Thomas lost media, are the Season 4 music videos of That's What Friends Are For and Rules & Regulations.

  • @pikachuthebananasplit9061
    @pikachuthebananasplit9061 Рік тому +5

    Here's something you probably didn't know Unlucky tug
    Fearless Freddie and Duncan were meant to return in blue mountain mystery but they were dropped for unknown reasons

    • @matthewthompson1043
      @matthewthompson1043 Рік тому +1

      I saw something similar to that with how Arthur was meant to return in SLOTLT, but was dropped and replaced by Ryan.

    • @s.p.d.magentaranger1822
      @s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Рік тому +1

      Of course BoCo was planned to return as well, and Tug mentioned Splodge and Dennis.

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo 8 місяців тому

      I thought Duncan wasn't in Blue Mountain Mystery because Douglas was being overhauled when the animators went to Talyllyn to measure the engines.

  • @nikerailfanningttm9046
    @nikerailfanningttm9046 Рік тому +4

    30:19 this is the *ONLY* actual publicly available production of Diesel 10 being violent. He literally is talking about murder.

  • @whitemountainproductions
    @whitemountainproductions 5 місяців тому +3

    9:37 The case of the puzzling parts was also supposed to be part of season 21

  • @MovieFan1912
    @MovieFan1912 Рік тому +8

    For those that want to sleep peacefully tonight, I would suggest skipping 17:05-18:27.

  • @crazyfire9470
    @crazyfire9470 Рік тому +3

    It may not have been as originally intended but the U.S still got “proper” season 7 dubs as they were officially released.

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 9 місяців тому +1

    Good god I didn’t even realize how much of the show’s preservation is completely lost, though thankfully it at least means Mattel just owns the majority in the archives

  • @drevianedwardsproductions9244
    @drevianedwardsproductions9244 Рік тому +3

    It's pretty interesting of pieces of lost media of Thomas, and I enjoyed it back in 2022, just learning and knowing what things could have expected.

  • @newguy186
    @newguy186 Рік тому +2

    12:25 & 19:50: I'm pretty sure those shots were added to the film of the released episodes, which were scanned for restoration. It's very much possible that the original footage might be lost, and it might be possible that there was never a version of season 7 with Michael Brandon's narration with Mike and Junior's music beyond what was made for the Thomas & the Jet Engine DVD, although sources confirm that the former two do still exist.

  • @OfficialEdwardTheWiseEngine
    @OfficialEdwardTheWiseEngine 4 місяці тому +2

    There's actually a lost Tagalog dub of the show, it was said to air in 2012 on GMA 7 (the 5th oldest television network in the country) the only footage found was a clip from Bust My Buffers. However, the dub could be illegal, GMA is notorious for stealing films from America, and dubbing them in Tagalog.

  • @numbersnumbers
    @numbersnumbers 10 місяців тому +2

    Well at least we found the scripts for both the Missing Coach and the sad story of Henry.

  • @eggyt1153
    @eggyt1153 10 місяців тому +3

    Ok I actually have an update on The Adventures of Thomas. One day I was listening to the radio on the way home from school earlier this year. I heard that the director (I think) of the live action Barbie movie was planning to help make other movies of other things. One of the things in the list they mentioned was Thomas the Tank Engine. Maybe we’re going to get a live action Thomas movie after all?

  • @seth.calling.service9678
    @seth.calling.service9678 Рік тому +2

    So I don’t know if this has been mentioned in a comment section, but back in 1995, while writing for the magic railroad, paramount studios was intended to work on the movie, (The original title being ‘The rainbow railroad’) and it was intended to be filmed with large scale models, similar size to the pack scale. However the company owner who accepted it was replaced by a new owner. The new owner deemed it to be too expensive. So yeah, that’s cool. Not lost media but just something that could have happened

  • @Randomperc
    @Randomperc 3 місяці тому +1

    14:20 I think I have this dvd, and I watched it so much as a kid. Didn’t know it was so unique

  • @gkingGabe72
    @gkingGabe72 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm back from the Derek Smith video of The Adventure of Thomas here to say this:
    I'm glad The Adventure of Thomas was cancelled and glad that it became Lost Media. No doubts will fans curious about it's story will go out searching for more information behind the story, but I'm step away from this Thomas movie that never came to be.

  • @JonathanMorgan-x1b
    @JonathanMorgan-x1b Рік тому +3

    This is technically a Thomas and Friends iceberg.

  • @ryanfuller912
    @ryanfuller912 Місяць тому +1

    I swear, one day I will go to Mattel’s archive, and dig out the lost media including A Proper US Version of Season 7, if it’s the last thing I do!

  • @randomnessetc5600
    @randomnessetc5600 Рік тому +4

    There are 2 additional pieces of lost media to be discussed, what Thomas 1st theatrical film would've been like when it was originally supposed to be released in 1997, not what we got Magic Railroad, and would've it been something based on the RWS only if Awdry had lived a bit? Also if Awdry lived a bit longer, would've Season 5 been another season with RWS adaptions only? Would've the Culdee Fell and Peel Godred railroad be adapted into the show? Also the other source of lost media would be Season 25 onwards if the original show got proper marketing and exposure and wasn't cancelled and replaced with the s****y AEF reboot! Would Thomas finally go to Japan to visit Hiro just like he promised all the way back in HOTR? Would this been an additional season of BWBA or the start of another new era? Would've Michael White or any professional writer try hard to retcon everything wrong about BWBA? And would've they've given more unnecessary international characters more lead roles to prove that they're not just marketing tools just like Yong Bao? Again, we can only speculate.

  • @jacobbigaj6168
    @jacobbigaj6168 4 місяці тому +2

    Drinking Game: Take a shot every time Tug uses the warehouse scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

  • @XanderW104
    @XanderW104 8 місяців тому +3

    17:36 So that's where Shed 17 came from.

  • @MichaelJones-vx7lt
    @MichaelJones-vx7lt Рік тому +2

    Its weird because I could have sworn I have seen a full episode of Pierce Brosnan's narration, but that is just from what I can remember.

  • @Scybren
    @Scybren 10 місяців тому

    In the late 90s my parents sold the wooden Thomas toys as a small retail business. We did a premiere day for the magic rallroad at a local theater and there was a ton of promotional material (Posters, pamphlets, decor and some limited/early run toys) that I imagine got trashed after. As a kid I never really liked that movie but it was fun to spend a whole day in a theater unattended.

  • @Guiltycircle486
    @Guiltycircle486 Рік тому +3

    2022 was a great year for lost media

  • @kidcool77720
    @kidcool77720 4 місяці тому +2

    20. Original Magic Railroad Cut
    19. Season 5 Deleted Scenes
    18. Cut Season 21 Episodes
    17. Sir John Narration
    16. Missing Couches
    15. Us Dub For Season 7
    14. Cancelled Chris Awdery Books
    13. Thomas Institude of Invassion Film
    12. Pierre Broston Season 12 Narration
    11. Foreign Dubs
    10. 1983 Pilot of Down the Mine
    9. Dustin
    8. The Original Draft of Day of the Diesels
    7. The Finilazed Original Cut of Magic Railroad
    6. Gordon’s Snow Machine
    5. Jack And the Pack
    4. The Adventers of Thomas
    3. The Original Draft of Great Race
    2. 1953 Sad Story of Henry
    1. 2D Musical 1970 Cartoon

    • @bartzacky9639
      @bartzacky9639 3 місяці тому

      Would be interesting to recap the added stuff in your part. Stuff like the Finalized Magic Railroad Cut or S5 Rushes

  • @funnyhappystudios
    @funnyhappystudios Рік тому +3

    I remember when I saw the boulder getting stopped by a man appearing out of nowhere I jumped 😂

  • @gkingGabe72
    @gkingGabe72 8 місяців тому +2

    17:09
    Aka the behind the scenes footage of the creation of All Engines GO
    If the general public thought that the characters from Thomas and Friends are magical because of Magic Railroad, imagine their thoughts of the series after seeing The Institute of Innovation.

    • @dylanlyles9453
      @dylanlyles9453 3 місяці тому +1

      I think the public would ban Thomas forever because of The Institute of innovation

  • @The_NW_EngineYT
    @The_NW_EngineYT 6 місяців тому +1

    Here's my theory for The Snow Machine: it was a one off prop. There hasn't been evidence of the show planning to reuse The Machine, and the prop itself looking rather incomplete compared to other rolling stock characters (we can see there doesn't seem to be anything on the front in the front view of it half buried next to Thomas.) The Snow Machine Prototype Toy doesn't look like it used the machine as a reference either, as it doesn't match the original props body shape. although that last one could be a stretch considering they also sometimes stretched out other characters.

  • @Kingdarrdarr_17
    @Kingdarrdarr_17 Рік тому +19

    Would loved if Pirece Pronsne narrated Season 12 of Thomas it would've been even better

    • @AbareKillerFan-yo7pe
      @AbareKillerFan-yo7pe Рік тому +2

      Agreed

    • @joshkidder9147
      @joshkidder9147 Рік тому

      You spelled his name wrong

    • @cloudracer07
      @cloudracer07 Рік тому +2

      Hopefully we can find the entire Season 12 dub one day.

    • @NitroIndigo
      @NitroIndigo Рік тому +1

      ​@@_MyNameIsAJ_ Agreed. Seeing fully CGI humans all voiced by the same bored-sounding narrator is uncanny.

  • @dakotaeggert
    @dakotaeggert 9 місяців тому +3

    In the 1953 pilot their is a photo of the James model that has surfaced.

  • @pizzaplanettruck9761
    @pizzaplanettruck9761 Рік тому +3

    28:24 If you compare the WR prototype to the snow machine we saw, the shape doesn't quite match. I mean, the toy looks like a square steam engine with a rotary blade instead of a face or smoke box door.

  • @raptorrixx99-wv2hl
    @raptorrixx99-wv2hl Рік тому +2

    What's funny about the 53' pilot, is that shortly after this videos original release, we got a BOMBSHELL reveal of official photos from an old magazine/newspaper of James the red engine's prop *from* the actual pilot.
    Bet you wished you'd waited on uploading the original video when ya did, huh Tug?😅

  • @internationalaudio9702
    @internationalaudio9702 3 місяці тому

    Season 7 also had an original US dub by Michael Angelis but with the original score by Mike and Junior but only four episodes were released on the "New Friends for Thomas" VHS/DVD.

  • @ProjectSMPoffical
    @ProjectSMPoffical 10 місяців тому +2

    ngl derek fits him so well like his full name might as well be sir derek topham hat!

  • @DEVIOUSDUCK5741
    @DEVIOUSDUCK5741 25 днів тому +1

    Well Mr.Tug you I know this is a bit late and you might not see this but you info on this will be very helpful for my college informative essay and I thank you for that

  • @JETSONandLady1897
    @JETSONandLady1897 2 місяці тому +1

    This was very interesting and cool 😊

  • @glaceonmom548
    @glaceonmom548 9 місяців тому +2

    Tug, You're the Best at Making Thomas and Friends Content but Don't let Hit Entertainment copyright strike your videos.

  • @thehydromancer5843
    @thehydromancer5843 Місяць тому

    Idk if this is lost media, but as a kid I remember there was a "create your own story" option in the DVD extras where you would play a multi-choice story mode game with multiple endings, all the scenes shot as if it were an actual episode. I distinctly remember James and Percy being in it, maybe Stanley, but I remember the style of the modelling being around the 2000s era. Does anyone else remember?

  • @RagtownJunction
    @RagtownJunction Рік тому +2

    Hey Tug, to your question at 25:25 , i am german and i own a Special DVD with all of the Jack and the Pack episodes in German dub. Jusg ask if u need more details😀

  • @lemmyspeaks
    @lemmyspeaks Рік тому +2

    The rarest track by the Beatles is “supposedly” them doing the Thomas theme song.

  • @koiuyp2466
    @koiuyp2466 Рік тому +1

    When missing coach footage is found, I can rest easy

  • @CapitalCityKate
    @CapitalCityKate Рік тому +1

    I can't believe your Magic Railroad analysis video is blocked in the US.

  • @TronicSSJ07
    @TronicSSJ07 Місяць тому

    39:50 The fact this somehow got mentioned in Sonic Destruction baffles me how that was possible.

  • @matthewacheampong1563
    @matthewacheampong1563 7 місяців тому +1

    I love the way he keeps saying somewhere in Mattel's hardrive