DUNE: PART TWO Movie Reaction! | First Time Watch! | Timothée Chalamet | Zendaya | Austin Butler
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- Kristen continues her Dune adventure along with Achara, watching Dune: Part Two, where Paul Atreides embraces his destiny and navigates the treacherous politics of Arrakis, leading to a climactic confrontation that will shape the fate of the universe.
This film stars: Timothee Chalamet (Call Me by Your Name & Little Women), Zendaya (Euphoria & Spider-Man: No Way Home), Rebecca Ferguson (Mission: Impossible - Fallout & Doctor Sleep), Josh Brolin (No Country for Old Men & Avengers: Endgame), Stellan Skarsgård (Good Will Hunting, Thor, & Chernobyl), Dave Bautista (Guardians of the Galaxy & Blade Runner 2049), Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men & Skyfall), & Charlotte Rampling (45 Years & Swimming Pool), Florence Pugh (Little Women, Midsommar, Oppenheimer & Black Widow), Christopher Walken (The Deer Hunter, Pulp Fiction, and Catch Me If You Can), Léa Seydoux (Blue Is the Warmest Colour, Spectre, and Midnight in Paris) & Austin Butler (The Dead Don't Die, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Elvis).
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"Lead them to paradise" might be the saddest and most chilling line in the whole movie.
I agree. :)
It’s so tragic. Paul did everything he could to avoid this outcome, but once he took the water of life, he was unable to see any outcome other than galactic genocide to protect his loved ones, and he’ll lose Chani along the way. It’s such a sad ending.
@@jadedmastermind he doesnt lose chani remember the previous scene in part 1 when paul are chani are looking down on caladan from their ship?
@@zyrux_ the visions are unreliable, that's the point. Paul had visions that didn't come to pass, or had different outcomes like Jamis
@@Gangstanoob1998 they were not unreliable they were incomplete he could see only parts before taking the water of life
50:33 Giving the baron’s body to the desert is the ultimate insult from a Fremen, suggesting your body’s water is not worth reclaiming…
If normal harkonnen water is too toxic to drink, I imagine the baron must be the fremen equivalent of an oil spill in the ocean lmao. Where the baron decayed no plants will grow even after the terraforming, lmao.
Paul: I'm not the messiah!
Fremen: That sounds like something the Messiah would say!
And I should know, I've followed a few!
He’s not the Lisan Al Gaib, he’s a very naughty boy!
"Alright, I AM the messiah!"
_"He is the messiah!"_
*_"Now, FUCK OFF!!"_*
Achara talking Kristen through certain plot points to understand the story is so me with my sister LOL
When a pregnant woman takes the water of life, the baby also inherits all of the memories of the previous Reverend Mothers. They are born with all that knowledge. However, unlike the mother, the baby has yet to establish it's own personality. It is at extreme risk of being taken over by one or more stronger personalities from it's past. Considered 'inhuman', it is referred to as an Abomination as it will go mad (crazy) and be unable to control itself, abusing the Bene Gesserit powers it has inherited. This is why Paul was tested in the previous movie. To make sure he could control himself.
"He is kind of scary now" - that's the whole point, it isn't a benevolent hero's journey
The music in that scene perfectly encapsulates what is happening, it is ominous, not an uplifting one. For how funny Chani is dragged down, she isn't wrong about this one.
It's hilariously infuriating watching this white girl sit and try to rationalize how somehow Paul is still a hero because he's a vaguely commanding white kid. Fuck.
Don't buy into the Messiah hype! 😂
The way worm riding works is that the hand clamps are used to raise the surface plates of the worm. This exposes their inlets to the environment which causes irritation. As a response the worm will turn the exposed plate up and away from the sand. It keeps them from submerging and is also used by the rider to steer.
How do they stop the worms? And how do they load them with so many people?
@@LetsGetitBoah science fiction lol
@@LetsGetitBoahthey toss ropes down so people can climb up. I am not sure they can stop them per se, although they can ride them to exhaustion and he worms will linger on teh surface to recover. To get off, they run off the tail
@@Alex.Holland You are correct, the worms stop when they are tired so they ride them until then and after that get everyone on top using ropes or pulleys.
@@LetsGetitBoah They ride the worms to near exhaustion, then let go of the ropes. Since the segments are no longer exposed, the sandworm buries itself deep into the sand and sulks ... and rests. As the sandworm goes underground, it's no problem to dismount and no fear about the sandworm attacking. This is explained in detail in several of Frank Herbert's Dune novels.
Timothee's acting is so damn good. The bass and authority in his voice compels me to follow him to paradise. He is LISAN AL GAIB.
Mfw I'm somehow both aware of the deception and completely convinced
No, Denis is
@@Zlarel Not a Deception, he IS The Messiah for THIS TIME..He Fulfills the Prophecy ..He does his Part to set up things for the TRUE LISAN AL GAIB. Too many People misunderstand How the Prophecy works..its a TRUE Prophecy..the Bene Jasarit Sisterhood have just Been trying to control WHO and WHEN it happens so they can Control it But Paul Derails all their Plans.
@@AlbertoMartinez765 yeah because the prophecy was that the the true one was gonna be born between an atreides and a harkenon. But no one knew that Jessica was a harkenon. 😅
I feel bad for Kristen. She never got to see this in IMAX…
IMAX is the best way to see a movie that was filmed in that format
Honestly worth renting a theater to yourself / group of friends and watch it. If it’s a theater that serves food pull a double feature part 1&2
I saw it in IMAX twice. It was amazing. I got chills like 5 times.
@@kellymoses8566 I saw it in IMAX twice as well
It's okay, not many people watched it in imax
27:47, the guy Feyd is fighting is a senior military leader in the Atreides army named Lanville. He was in the first movie. Lanville is played by Roger Yuan who is also the fight choreographer for the movie.
I knew he looked familiar! Mr Yuan did an incredible job with the choreography
When Duncan I showing off the fremen gadgets, he's in the background with the other Atreides
@@novembervoid.2768 I remember him from Walker Texas Ranger. He was amazing enemy Lazarus.
why do I feel like he had a slightly bigger role in the first movie but it was cut out
@@trentdevlaminck9927 He also told them to turn their personal shields on when they first set down on Arrakis, and i think he's also the dude to informs Leto the the sun was getting too high and that they needed to close the doors of the Palace cuz it was getting too hot
Timmy C should get an Oscar nomination for this role!
Absolutely!! 💗🙌
that speech alone uff masterpiece
Austin too-best supporting actor.
def not, no offence, easily the weakest acting of the main cast
@@svperstar You’re tripping. The southern speech scene goes crazy; especially if you’re a fan of the books. Haven’t had a scene in a movie give me goosebumps like that in years. Timmy’s change after taking the Water of Life was stellar. Although, Austin, Javier, Zendaya, and Rebecca all killed it in their supporting roles. Everyone in this movie killed it really, except Christopher Walken, in my opinion, even though he was one of my favorite actors growing up.
I really appreciate Jessica's evolution throughout this film. She fully steps into her role as a Reverend Mother among the Fremen, masterfully using her enhanced religious influence to strategically position her son. Her ability to manoeuvre others akin to puppets on strings showcases her acumen as both a politician and a strategist. While the first film highlighted her protective, maternal instincts, this sequel reveals a stark transformation following her consumption of the Water of Life. As she delves deeper into her political and religious roles, her attire becomes increasingly ornate and ceremonial, symbolising her growing distance from everyday connections. This transition suggests that Jessica isn't just a protective mother but could have been a formidable, even ruthless, ruler in her own right. The portrayal of such diverse female power on screen is essential, and Rebecca Ferguson’s performance as Lady Jessica is nothing short of Oscar-worthy. Her ability to convey strength, complexity, and vulnerability adds a profound layer to the film, emphasizing the need for more nuanced female characters in cinema.
I realize this movie is all about Paul. But I think Jessica steals the show.
Maybe I’m drawing a connection where none exists, but in the beginning jessica seems reluctant to follow this path to fanaticism. She says “Your father didn’t believe in revenge.” Whereas Paul says “We must convert the nonbelievers.” Immediately after that scene Paul changes his mind in his own head, but jessica seems to take his words to heart. On one hand it’s strange that Paul changed his mind so quickly, but on the other it goes to show that Jessica loves Paul so much, she tries her best to help Paul get his revenge.
@@reginaldking5972I’m not generally a fan of milfs, but Ferguson as Jessica is beautiful, both in appearance and in her devotion to her family.
on the last line tho.. please stop encourage that because it will only give birth to more Brie Larson Captain SJW character.
Jessica character was well written and superbly acted regardless of gender.
@@IamNinjaOfNinja It’s easy to blame the prevalence of stereotypical female characters on mainstream franchises and inconsistent writing. We desperately need more complex female characters, including alpha and even cruel ones, because women are as multifaceted as men. Historically, many films have portrayed women in ways that align with patriarchal norms, often reducing them to mere accessories to their male counterparts, as seen in the 007 series. In contrast, the ‘Dune’ series stands out for not having a single poorly written female character. Each woman is portrayed with intelligence and complexity, reflecting a broad spectrum of human qualities.
Kristen, you should also watch this in the cinemas. It is still featured in some places. The scale of this film should be experienced on the big screen! 😊
I haven't been in a movie theater since COVID started and this was the only one that changed my mind. It's a masterpiece and it deserves the big screen and sound stage!
Its still bloody selling out Imax where I am. I'm dying to see it at Imax
30:16, in the books Margot Fenring is the wife of Count Hasmir Fenring who is the Emperor best friend since childhood. The director actually filmed scenes with him but they wound up on the cutting room floor which is a pity.
The Count is one of those folks who looks thoroughly harmless but he is freaking lethal. Few people know that Count Fenring is also the personal assassin for the Emperor. Count Fenring is another person who is a potential Kwitzach Haderach but due to a genetic abnormality he can't reproduce.
The Count knows some parts of the Bene Gesserit plans and supports it. When Margot came home from Giedi Prime he knew she was pregnant with Feyd-Rautha's child.
Also Lady Fenring left a warning for Jessica in writing when they arrived in arrakis disguised as a welcome message, too bad she didnt really know any details. The Fenrings are way more developed in the books, i kind of knew he would get cut off in the second movie since they had no mention in the first part, sadly
People don't need to wait two years to see what comes next. Read the books! Start again with Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune. Listen to the Audiobooks! It's an amazing journey.
It's a shame Count Fenring ended up on the cutting room floor. I would have loved to have seen Tim Blake Nelson's portrayal of the character.
They can't use shields for two reasons:
1. As you said, the worms are attracted to shields
2. If a laser gun hits your shield it causes a MASSIVE explosion so when the Harkonnens are armed with lasers (and they're not sure if they're under attack from lasers or maula pistols) it's safer for everyone not to use shields, especially as we see later on the Harkonnens can often shoot their own soldiers by accident when ambushed
Yeah...I'd shoot a shield with a laser. Fuck everyone else. I'd zap the first heighliner that folds in...every time.
Wasn't it, like, a proper nuclear explosion? It's even more than massive lol
@deaconstjohn4842 depends on the laser and shield. But even a laser pistol and personal shield would probably equal something like a tactical nuke.
It doesn't really matter anyway, because it's bullshit that's so stupid it should just be ignored.
@@deaconstjohn4842Not always. Nuclear explosions do happen, but, the books state it’s a bit more random than what most people seem to think.
There’s a chance that a nuclear scale explosion could happen where the laser connects with the shield. Or this reaction could feedback along the beam and detonate within the firing lasgun. Or explosions could simultaneously occur at both points: the target shield that’s being shot and back within the lasgun.
Or nothing could happen at all and the laser beam simply fizzles out where it hits the shield.
The outcome is random and you never really know. Nobody wants to find out though.
correction it could cause said explosion but its random it could happen at point B or point B and A or A or neither
This truly is a perfect film. The directing, writing, acting, set design, cinematography, soundtrack, EVERYTHING IS FLAWLESS!
31:25 And this is honestly the best joke in the movie. Who WOULD’NT be sexually vulnerable at the mere sight of Léa Seydoux?!?!
Norman Reedus
@@Wurzelknecht HA!👏🏽👏🏽 But come on, even Sam Porter Bridges absolutely would. He’d just have to be *Fragile* on the first date.
I think that Paul realized he couldn't defeat Fayd normally so he let himself get stabbed in the right place to be able to surprise stab Fayd. It is a brilliant move. I also think he was able to use his Bene Geserit abilities to reduce the damage of getting stabbed.
no he was playing up the fight for a show, he could see every detail of the fight via his precongition. he only let feyd land his attacks. and in the books he only got cut a single time.
Firing the atomics straight into the Emperor's ship would have been the equivalent of a war crime under this universe's constitution; so instead, he aimed them at the barren land the Emperor's camp, which obviously still caused a lot of damage and accomplished what he needed it to. Basically just a legal loophole, so he can disrupt the Emperor's defences without being branded a war criminal.
He didn't just aim at barren land, he aimed specifically at the shield wall, the mountains that protect Arrakeen from the storm and the worms. This is why Stilgar and his troops were able to ride the worms all the way into the basin where the emperor set up camp.
Paul said before that he needs the Emperor alive. It's about the legitimacy of his claim to the throne, that the emperor abdicades and he marries his daughter.
Jessica is the daughter of Baron Harkonnen and Reverend Mother Helen Gaius Mohiam. When Mohiam was young, her Reverend Mother sent her to secure the Harkonnen bloodline with the intent that her daughter (Jessica) would have a daughter with Leto. That daughter would then be married to a Harkonnen (Feyd-Rautha). Jessica disobeyed and gave Leto a boy, and the rest is history.
Incorrect. Mohiam is not Jessica's mother. Her mother was another Bene Gesserit named Tanidia Nerus
It depends on what you consider canon. Brian Herbert very clearly wrote that Jessica was born of rape of Helen. Frank alluded to the breading program.
@@McKamikazeHighlander - Tanidia Nerus was indeed the name young Baron Harkonnen was given by the Bene Gesserit who came to him, but it was an alias - something Bene Gesserit often did. In this case, Tanidia Nerus was the alias Helen Mohiam used. Jessica was entered into official records as Jessica Nerus. Her true parentage was listed in the secret Bene Gesserit breeding records. Even the baron didn't know Jessica was his daughter.
@@ener11454 Yes, and Brian got the information that Jessica was Vladimir Harkonnen's daughter from Frank's notes.
@@guybenson3528I don’t know, Brian just generally referenced notes but wrote a lot of things that retconned his fathers work. Also writers often have different ideas of how they want a story to go and will write them out to see how it feels, then reject them. That’s why there are often multiple versions of a story. I feel like if Frank wanted it in the story he would have included in the first 6 books at least or not given them different names. Plus the weight issues being STD related and Jessicas conception being a result of SA also conflict with the original story
As a longtime fan who read the books back in the 80s, I am just beyond thrilled to see one of my favorite series finally take off so well in modern pop culture, to the point where random people are so excited and know the names and phrases from the story! If only Frank Herbert could have somehow known how impactful his story would one day be...
The language the Fremen are speaking is based on Chakobsa, an ancient language from the northwest Caucasus mountains (roughly between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea). It was known as a secret "hunting language" used by kings and other royalty.
53:13 The fight between Paul and Feyd-Rautha was amazing, great choreography, and high stakes.
And such a great choice to have no background music.
It was a cool fight, but, it made no sense why playboy Feyd was somehow a better fighter than the battle-hardened post-Water of Life Kwisatz Haderach who was trained his whole life by some of the absolute best fighters in the Imperium (Duncan Idaho and Gureny Halleck) and had Bene Gesserit abilities (trained by his mother.)
Paul pretty easily defeated a cheating Feyd in the books for these very reasons. As he should have.
@@Gunnar001 I mean, movie last minutes, it needs something. Would have been absolutely garbage if Paul just one tapped Feyd.
@@flowy3422 I don’t mind an intense final duel. BUT if they’re gonna deviate from the book and go that route…some kind of explanation for why Feyd was so good would’ve been nice.
We see him go from a “playboy” who duels against drugged/weakened prisoners (he even has trouble defeating one and then complains afterwards that the Baron tried to kill him) to all of a sudden transforming into a legendary fighter who would give the best sword masters in the Imperium a run for their money.
Just doesn’t make sense.
it wasn't high stakes as paul knew every detail of the fight from his precognition and chose to simply look like it was high stakes
Duke Leto's question to Lady Jessica in the first part where he asks her if she would take care of Paul ("I'm not asking the mother, I'm asking the Bene Gesserit" makes so much sense in Part Two. You see the Bene Gesserit in Jessica making decisions and leading and urging him down a destructive path.
I think the resemblance of the spice harvester to a tick was intentional.
A Harkonnen Tick.
My favorite movie of the year so far, probably one of my favorite movies of all time tbh
Definitely an Oscar winning movie!
@@rantman4521 I sure hope it’s not just nominated for visual effects
@JefferriAndrews Best Picture and Director in the bag. And of course, many others. 💯
@@rantman4521 Definitely, but it’s competition will be Joker 2
@JefferriAndrews I'm sure it'll be good. Give Joaquin Oscar again, but please. Dune parts 1and 2 is LOTR Stuff. Masterful filmmaking.
Paul's marriage to Princess Irulan serves primarily as a political alliance to strengthen his claim to the throne of the Padishah Emperor. Marrying into the Corrino family, which rules the Imperium, helps legitimize Paul's position as the leader of House Atreides and the Fremen. However, despite this political union, Paul's true love and loyalty lie with Chani, his Fremen concubine. Chani represents Paul's deep connection to the Fremen people and their way of life, and their relationship is founded on love and mutual respect. Despite his marriage to Irulan, Paul's heart remains with Chani, creating a complex dynamic driven by duty, politics, and personal feelings.
Paul's bond with Chani remains strong, and their children are a testament to their love and the continuation of the Fremen legacy. Paul navigates a delicate balance between his duty to his political marriage and his devotion to Chani and their children, reflecting the complex interplay between personal relationships and political obligations in his life.
Which is why I didn't like the changes to Chani's character in the movie, even though I understand them from a narrative point. Villeneuve wanted to give her a bigger role and also use her as the character's reaction to everything that's happening to show the audience that Paul embracing the manipulation of religious fanatics is not a good thing. But I still think it comes at the cost of a character that was great despite not being incredibly fleshed out or has that much screentime in the books. A character that was Paul's pillar of support throughout the years, and probably the only Fremen who supported him out of love, and not out of religious devotion. While everyone else calls him Muad'Dib, to Chani he was always Usul.
@@Wurzelknecht Exactly this isn't Chani from the Books at all, in the Books she Understands the political reasons for the Marriage and Has no real issues with it as Paul Never Sleeps w the Princess and In Fact Ignores her and leaves he to His History writing OFF by herself in her own separate Rooms. In the Book Chani feels sorry for the Princess as she is in a Loveless and Childless Marriage.
The main reason that this adaptation works SO WELL, that it's SO rich with detail and intelligent storytelling and respectful translation of the books' lore and flavour, is because Villenbeuve is a Dune SUPERFAN. These are some of his favourite books, this project meant the world to him, so he was determined he had to do them proper justice.
It is good that you recognize the "terrifying" aspect of this film. Paul as a character is not a hero. There is deep, serious danger implicit in the power of a charismatic leader.
I love that you understand that "DUNE" is a timeless masterpiece that remains relevant and fascinating even decades later. (Many current science fiction works draw inspiration from "DUNE"). Frank Herbert managed to create a world and a narrative so rich and complex that it continues to resonate with readers to this day. His ability to address universal themes and explore the complexity of the human condition is truly fascinating.
Herbert, like Asimov, was ahead of his time.
between this and Masters of the AIr Austin Butler is becoming one of my favorite actors
Same. Also the amount of dedication and talent he has shown in Elvis is stunning.
The worm riding scene on IMAX was literally like a religious experience. One of my favorite movie experiences ever.
Dune 3 is a good 4 to 5 years away at a minimum. It will be a brutal wait, but it should be worth it.
Depends, second book is worse than first
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 oh ya, Messiah is a real trip. The books get more "interesting" over time. God Emperor is nuts.
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Messiah is the continuation of the story. Not more.... Not less. It tells us what happens "if you get what you wish for"...... It is not always what you expect. Again... A perfect lesson in life and it's complexities.
@@donny1960it could have been that in a better way
@@frfras7 Well it did well enough as is. Write a world-renowned series of Sci-fi. Then we can see what "better" looks like.
"Sometimes i have a hard time tell what's a dream and what's real." Funny you should say that because in the book there came a point where that happened to Paul too. He was so hopped up on spice and his prescient visions were coming in hard and fast that he was asking himself if what he was experiencing at the moment was happening now, or a memory of a vision he had before, or an actual vision. Sort of like a de ja vu of a de ja vu.
I like that the changes to chani from the books as well as the fantastic score help to bring across the original idea that Paul is not a saviour. Like when he walks into the war meeting the music is dark, ominous. When he rouses the people it's not a triumphal orchestral score, it sounds more like a rally from the late 1930s. Pauls ascension is the footsteps of doom.
The score helps a lot. I'm not sure, but I think the war meeting scene with a more triumphant music would be easier to misunderstand, but here it feels absolutely ominous.
Fun fact
I live near the set where princess Irulan and the reverend mother talk
No joking, it's a tomb, in a cemetery
It's called "tomba Brion" in honour of Carlo Scarpa, an italian architect
LOVED the outro! Thank y'all so much for sharing
Harkonnens are freaking badass. That HR Gigeresque aesthetics and the scenes on Giedi Prime are eyegasm. Austin Butler as Feyd-Rautha and Stellan as Baron are absolutely stellar. I wish the Harkonnens had more screen time.
Was waiting for it thank you ❤
What a beautiful reaction. It had all the feels, and had lots of wisdom, and interesting ideas and discussion points that I would never have thought of. Loved it. Glad you loved the movie.!
Stunned silence is right. First time I saw it my cinema was the same....several mins, everyone just like..sat there. No sound, nothing.
This is the best edited reaction. Captured all the great stuff. Thank you and fantastic reaction and film review.
3:52 it's not just that you can't use shields because of the worms; it's that contact between a lasgun and a shield means very bad day. I don't think it's explained in the movies, but a contact reaction between the two creates a nuclear-level explosion that would kill everybody. If they just stand there and get sniped, some of them stand a chance. If they activate shields, they're all done.
no cntact between a lasegun and a shield MAY cause said reaction but its not a definite
@@houseofaction and?
10:40 "Only the true messiah declines his divinity"
"Well what chance does that give me? Alright, I *am* the messiah"
'He admits it! Hail messiah!"
- Life of Brian
If you didn't know this, but Arrackis didn't start off as a Desert Planet... It was once lush and green as Earth or Caladan was, but once Melange (The Spice) was discovered and how it's processed by the worms they slowly began to terraform Arrackis turning the once Lush green planet into DUNE.
Actually the introduction of sandtrout baby sandworms is what led to turning arrakis from wet planet to a desert and spice comes from sandworms. Without sandworms no spice n spice withdrawal is death.
this is actually false, when Arrakis was discovered it was already a desert, the people that found it and discovered spice had no idea it is because of the life cycle of the worms.
50:16 Feyd looks so happy about his uncle dying because A, like you mentioned - he’s sadistic and he loves pain but B, it goes into it more in the book but he has quite a complicated relationship with his uncle - he doesn’t really like him all that much (in the book he actually attempts to have the Baron assassinated 😂). And C, with Baron Vladimir dead, as he was the heir, he technically officially becomes Baron and leader of Giedi Prime and therefore gains more power. So yeah, I’d say he’s not too broken up about his uncle dying 😂😂😂
I saw this in IMAX while high and got teary-eyed several times from the sheer awesome spectacle of sights and sounds.
Incredible movie. The performances are so good all around but Rebecca Fetguson is just tremendous.
47:49 They didn't use the nukes against the ship since using nuclear weapons directly on people is considered forbidden and it's a too big of a taboo to break. However using them on mountains to open a path for the storm and the worms is allowed.
It’s more than a “taboo”, it’s legally prohibited and offensive use (against humans) is grounds for planetary annihilation (I think carried out by the other great houses at the order of the Emperor but could be misremembering that bit). I think the use on the mountains is… more of a grey area. Not banned but I’m pretty sure it would be frowned upon and make the other houses suspicious of whether anyone using them would be willing to actually break the ban.
The ban is from an agreement made after the end of the war against the thinking-machines, which included widespread use of atomic weapons that caused a great deal of devastation on many planets including Earth.
Thought he didn't use the atomics there because it was too close to the city and he needed the emperor alive
Also in the books Paul acknowledges he still might not have gotten away with it, but he doesn't need to worry cuz breaking the taboo means planetary annihilation... which the Great Houses can't enforce cuz it would mean destroying the source of spice.
The Water of Life awakened the child (Alia) making her self aware
Self-aware somewhat, she's also sharing a mind with the ancients, she's basically in a constant mental conflict.
Alia will also be born with the full power of a Reverend Mother.
I love the actress they got for her...but if she's playing her next movie, that means there will be a signicant time jump in the story (in the books, she's about 15 in the next story).
@@HandofOmega True but they'll probably just say that the water of life physically accelerated her as well as mentally. So she matures more quickly.
ABOMINATION!!!
Not just self awareness but having all the memories of her blood line.
From a certain point of view, Paul is really the villain of the story, even though he fights for Arrakis' freedom from Harkonnen rule. Now its not the Harkonnens he has to worry about: its the other great Houses of the Landsraad. Basically it's literally everyone else who's pockets are about to get a whole light lighter since they can't prfit from spice the way they used to. He made potential enemies of everyone who has power to lose.
Exactly!! I sat there till very last just absorbing the movie..
It was hell of an experience
I love this reaction. You guys understood it very well.
I basically got it with worm riders, those hooks just peel back the scales a bit to reveal the softer skin underneath, said skin gets irritated by the fast moving sand, so the worm rotates to keep the soft skin up away from the sand and doesn't "dive" in, so basically worms love sand on their skin just as much as Anakin did :P
So basically the worm riders are like flies on a horse that its desperately trying to get off its back.
Best movie I've watched in recent years. I was also stunned when I left the cinema. Waited for the digital release and instantly bought it again. Great movie.
The score is unbelievable I listen to it on Spotify from time to time
Haha. ‘You’re wasting water, pull it together’ loved it!
The thing with baby Alia is that she too has received the ego-memories of all the previous Reverend Mothers and of her ancestral female genetic, and is open to consciousness while still in the womb (hence why she's talking with Jessica). This is completely forbidden by the Bene Gesserit as this creates "pre-borns", a being vulnerable to possession by one of the more dominant ego-memory. It's like being born with infinite wisdom, but never having been given an opportunity to develop a sense of self or identity, so invading memories try to take over. This can lead to possession and insanity.
Correct, except that Alia ALSO has ALL of her genetic ancestral memories, not just the female ones...(hmm, WHO is among her ancestors...?)
@@HandofOmega Oh right, but I was wondering about that exact thing. How come she has the male side as well? She's no Kwisatz Haderach, how can she go there when all female Bene Gesserit can't? I understand Leto II and Ghanima having it, as they inherited it from Paul who did open up his entire ancestory, but never understood Alia.
@@xen0bia I think the idea is that a fetus has no concept of fear, so the water shows them the place women fear to look and they can't look away.
@@LordVolkov Yeah, while thinking about it, this is also what sorta figured, they don't have any inhibition to keep them from looking at the dark place.
@@xen0bia Alia has the exact same genetics Paul does, she was actually conceived by Jessica to get back into the Sisterhood's good graces by giving them what they originally wanted. The Sisterhood would have paired her or female Paul (Paula?) to Feyd, and that would have been the KH...only Paul attained it early. He and Alia may be some sort of unexpected mutations; there's a scene where Paul is ruminating about how Alia leaves messages for him to find in the future somehow, a feat even he couldn't manage. Some powers are unexpected and unexplained, such as Miles Teg...
Wow, I've been waiting for your reaction for a long time, yes, Dune part two is a masterpiece film, nothing like a masterpiece like Dune has been released in many years, I love this film❤😊
The book after Dune is called Dune Messiah. Frank Herbert said, it was the hardest Dune book to write because he had to destroy Paul without killing him.
My favorite part of the last scene is the look on the emperor's face after Paul tells him to choose his champion. He calls his father weak saying "he ruled by the rules of the heart", and Instead of Paul taking the bait he essentially proves to the emperor that he is not his father. The look that Christopher Walken gives is just perfect, it's almost like he's infuriated/impressed that it didn't work. I'm so happy I saw this movie in IMAX.
"I will take the hand of your daughter..." and this is how you make an upgrade.
I havent seen in it mentioned in many reactions or comments so i thought I'd drop it here as I love this reaction; the un-drugged fighter in the arena is Lanville. In part I his name is used once by Duncan calling on him while asking about configuration on his ship he lands in, shortly after Lanville says he will sort out some stabilizer issues. Lanville calls out "Shields!" to the guards as the Atreides family arrives on Arrakis. And then he calls in Leto from outside saying the heat is too high and they need to lock the doors. He also is the one to report that Stilgar has a knife and wont surrender it before meeting Leto. He was clearly a high-ranking officer of the Atreides family, and definitely a good fighter.
We lacked seeing him as intimately as the fight with Feyd, so he is easily missed until you go back and realize he is everywhere throughout.
Thank you very much for your reaction to Dune part two, I’ve been waiting for your reaction to this masterpiece for a long time🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
About the worm riding:
Those hooks the Fremen use, to hold grip on the worms, are pulling the scales on their skins up. That irritates the worm and therefore prevents it of diving back into the sands
Great movie that plays on all the emotions! Can’t wait to see what happens next.
"He's so angry all the time!"
Dave Bautista is perfect Raban casting (even moreso when they ditched the red hair for alopecia). He already had the physique, he can keep that rage up, he can do the stunts, and his range is getting incredible.
You ladies must see him in Hotel Artemis, an underrated cyberpunk gem with Sterling Brown and Jodie Foster.
What range? He basically yells all the time lol
@@samjohnson7869 If you didn't see Raban's fear when Feyd subjugated him, you weren't paying attention.
@@samjohnson7869 Eh you can see that he's a sniveling wretch whenever he's with baron Or feyd. That's good acting.
Kristen: "I feel like they shouldn't be able to do that"
Gravity: "I agree"
The black and white is because of the sun that is on the harkonnens home, it makes everything look that way.
52:10 - These next 20 seconds is my favorite Kristen reaction in a movie plot point. 😂❤
I said the same thing to Chani, “Don’t waste your water.” Love her in the films so much more.
재밌는 영화를 본다는것은 정말 인생에서 몇 안되는 행복하고 즐거운 일인듯.
How do you drop those one liners without laughing lol. I about died when heard the only fans line. Keep up the good work fam. Big fan of the page my guy.
Thats actually a really good analogy about surfing a big wave. Its exactly like that. Waiting n just going for it. I can relate to that growing up here in Australia gone to beaches alot body bording but yeah i can see catching a worm is similar to waiting to catch a wave.
Paul’s situation is the literal definition of a rock and a hard place, on one hand he doesn’t use the Fermen and their beliefs and just use the anatomics which maybe would’ve gotten him the throne but other houses could easily wipe him out cause he doesn’t have the physical man power, On the other hand, he goes against everything he believes in and becomes the messiah and ultimately led him into a war that will cost billions of lives
Austin butler was phenomenal as a. Villain
Yes, Chakobsa is a language created by David Peterson, the linguist responsible for Dothraki and High Valyrian, among many others.
It has its own complex grammar, writing system and semantics based on the canon and the words Frank Herbert used. So he doesn't just translate word by word. For instance, when Chani tells Stilgar that he's crazy, she's actually saying "You're drinking sand!".
He also created the secret sign language, and if you go to his website you can see PDFs with all the grammar explained and the videos he sent to the actors showing how to use the language in full detail.
That's very cool to have her use an expression. It's not really a big deal but I thought it was cool that "Lisan
Al gaib" was captioned as "Lisan Al gaib" but when paul says it in his speech it is translated into the full words "voice from the outer world" . I might be reaching but It felt meaningful like it had gone from this phrase of hypothetical messiah to a real commanding authority a VOICE to lead them.
@@David-cg1lh Yes, I really thought the same. That was a great choice. Besides you can clearly hear him say Lisan Al-Gaib anyway.
@@marianoyalour Oh nice you actually noticed that at the time? you like the language stuff alot? I was worried like am I spitting or not at all lol.
in the novel, poor Alia (Paul's baby sister) was considered by the Bene Gessert to be an abomination since she was awakened to full consciousness while still developing in her mother's womb (because of the Water of Life), with all the knowledge and memories of all the Reverend Mothers before her.
as to how Jessica is the Baron's daughter, you need to read the prequel novels written by Brian Herbert, Frank Herbert's son, who did a good job with the notes his father left for the whole Dune timeline.
Went 4th time yesterday and planning a new one with a friend
"Love a family kiss..."
"Not with that guy though!"
🤣🤣🤣
The Baron is much creepier with Feyd in the book, but toning it down to his lingering gazes and that strange kiss works for the pacing.
I am a little sad they didn't mention Feyd's attempt to murder the Baron with a poisoned slave, or Feyd's poison needle in the fight with Paul (not doing 'I must bend like a reed in the wind' was kind of a letdown).
the Golden Path leads as far into their future as they are to our time
I got sort of emotional. Maybe not even the story itself, but the pure beauty and craft of this film is incredibly breath-taking. HANS ZIMMER; that guy man.... phew... his tracks will posses you lol.
Hello, longtime fan and fluent in Dune lore! I love that you guys loved Book 1 (Dune Part One & Two)! Be prepared for book two, it is definitely isn't meant to appease fans or follow a hero's archetype. Its gonna hurt, its gonna make you mad, but it is so necessary! Herbert wrote DUNE to test the faithful!
Chani being upset is in part about Heartbreak but it’s also about what he told her, that this path would lead to the death of billions across the galaxy. After taking the water, he became someone else than the man is father was proud of. It’s about prophecy now, which means destruction. He chooses the path made for him, not his own. He told her all of this so knowing that, how is she supposed to feel? I think it made since for her to leave, at least for the time being.
Dune so far is a masterpiece, the books has always been a staple of sci-fi and one of the greatest modern day tales ever told, the next film is where shit starts to get crazy good.
Anyone else remembers Duke Leto attacked by his Harkonen cousin? Loved your reaction! Spot on analysis ❤
I understand they probably did what they did with Chani at the end of the movie as some sort of cliffhanger for a possible 3rd film, based on Dune: Messiah. But it did not happen that way in the book. After killing Feyd, Paul confronts the emperor and demands the hand of his daughter, the princess, as a political move strictly for power. Without skipping a beat, he immediately makes it clear the princess will lead a barren life of isolation, as he will never, ever touch her, because he loves Chani, who while officially called concubine, is in truth his wife and the mother of his children. Chani understood this and stood by Paul throughout.
I guess we'll have to see if/how they resolve this in the next movie.
The fight at the end is similar to the training fight with Gurney in the first movie. Paul gets stabbed where he will survive but it allows him to deal a lethal blow.
Also when Christopher Walken said more more I almost died in the theater thinking “more cowbell”
The reverend mothers see some possible futures. Paul now sees all of them, including the path that he (and his descendents) have to take for humanity to survive. If they don't change it, the books call this The Golden Path.
Excellent reaction. I especially liked the discussion afterwards.
The "love triangle" you are imagining was handled in one way in the novels, and of course, I won't tell you what it was. But I'm not 100% sure that Movie #3 is going to follow what the novels did in this particular dimension; I can see new possibilities suggested by the ending of Movie #2 that might take us in an entirely different direction. That new direction would be pretty intense, if they do it.
Considering the books get worse over time, I'd say it's a merciful guarantee that the next movie will diverge the most from the books!
@@LuminairPrime I'd say the books are good till God Emperor. Of course to create a better film experience, they need to change stuff and they already have from Book 1
Loved your reaction as always. You should watch society of the the snow. It's a great movie and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one
thanks for reacting
I love the comment about not knowing who to trust. This is a story about teaching that story structures lie to you. Trust no-one, try to understand them, but do not trust them.
You should watch this in theaters.
The David lynch directs cut explains more and interprets the books more. But there is nothing better than the books you have to read the books. I've read the books 4 times. That's how good they are. Dune trilogy and Stephen kings the dark tower are by far the best books of our time
Paul: *blinks*
Stilgor: Lisan Al Ghaib!!
Also I believe a Dune series is set to release on MAX later this year
Hear me out, Dune Messiah gonna be the best of the 3 movies, I wanna see Denis V.'s vision of the new "bad guys" from the book. Great reaction, thanks for sharing
this is my new #1...the whole thing is crazy
Indeed the future will be darker, remember the Bene Gesserit anticipates and they still have the seed of Feyd-Rautha in reserve and soon that of Paul.
And knowing their method, I am curious to know the choice that Paul will make knowing clearly what the Bene Gesserit are preparing in the shadows for the centuries to come.
PS: The next chapter of our adventures is called “the children of Dune”.