It's all good. First video I saw of yall, and went ahead and subbed! Keep on keeping on. And if yall do take requests, I definitely recommend Gangs of New York, about gangs there from like the 1800s or so, and for a good comedy/mystery check out the Nice Guys. Even if not on the channel, they are jist good movies to see. Peace out cub scout
to quote frank herbert the author of dune “I wrote the Dune series because I had this idea that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label on their forehead: 'May be dangerous to your health."
@TruthWiz I think they did as to not piss of the female audience, to reflect todays thinking about relationship. Remember Chani's speech about equality, but there are no female leaders, because only the strongest warriors can lead and when Paul reach Sietch Tabr, he's given the option to take as his own Jamis's wife and kids...some women would veiw this as sexist so they kept it out of the movie.
@@Forty_six_and_two The funny thing is, in the book when Paul and Jessica meet the Fremen for the first time and Jessica defeats Stilgar using the Bene Gesserit martial art in order to show that she could be useful to the Fremen by teaching them how to fight the Bene Gesserit way, Stilgar suggests she replace the Reverend Mother because that's the only way the two of them could cohexist without her becoming his wife. Otherwise, the tribe would expect for her to challenge him, kill him and take his place as the leader of the tribe. That is: in the book there is no prohibition for a woman to lead the tribe and Herbert made perfectly clear that the Fremen would accept a female leader if she ascended according to their traditional rules of succession. In some way, the book was more in tune with modern sensibilities than the movie gives it credit for. About Paul marrying Irulan, the book makes it very clear that it's just a political marriage meant to cement Paul's ascendency by respecting tradition. Marriage as a political "resource" is so accepted and ingrained in the setting that concubinage is considered perfectly normal. Nobody in the Dune universe expects that a noble would necessarily marry his/her love interest and so they provide for feelings to be taken care of by allowing rulers to have their significant others at their side as concubines. Children born from concubines can also inherit the title of the ruler as proved by Paul (Jessica never married Duke Leto because Leto could use the prospect of marrying as a political lever in negotiations). It makes sense in the context of the setting.
@@Forty_six_and_two that’s not why they changed her. denis says he wanted her to be skeptical as a way to remind the audience to be skeptical and weary of what paul is doing/becoming. frank herbert didn’t write paul as a hero or a good guy, and if you’ve read the books-after dune 2s timeline-paul and the fremen cause a lot of chaos across the galaxy. he knew the audience would be on paul’s side which is not what the author wanted. movie chani fits frank’s original intention a lot more than the book. the changes in the movie give the audience context, especially for those who aren’t familiar with the story, and imo keeps it from being too linear.
@TruthWiz having an opposition and split in the fremen actually better conveys the intention of the author better than the original text does. That's why the director did it so.
By giving Jessica the Water of Life when she was pregnant, they inadvertently created a fully-aware Reverend Mother with all the powers of the Bene Gesserit inside the womb.
The women of the Bene Gesserit order have as close to total control of their body as it is possible to get. They can move each muscle individually as well as regulate each gland and even store infections and other pathogens safely and use them as weapons on command. Releasing an egg when needed and not haveing a menstral cycle are probably novice teachings.
@@CallsignEskimo-l3o she did that so she can hide from stilgar, that she is pregnant.. shes trying to make stigar believe that she is just a regular person in that moment so she just let that vomit out.
Great reaction video ladies. Although Paul’s journey was interesting to watch, keep in mind Paul and his family are members of Royalty. That’s why he married. The emperor’s daughter. It was a political move. Also, the Author wrote Dune as a warning against charismatic leaders. Which is Paul. Even though we are warn because of Paul’s actions billions of people will die. Chani was really the moral compass of this movie. She believed one of her own people should liberate her people, not an outsider.
So far, Denis Villeneuve is advancing what is possible within science fiction cinema. Because of the Butlerian Jihad, the Dune universe does not have computers or thinking machines, so there's an analog sensibility to all of their technology. Space travel only occurs because navigators use spice like a drug to foresee successful routes when travelling through folded space. Body shielding tech renders firearms mostly useless so everyone trains with blades for their combat. But those shields cannot be used in the deserts of Arrakis because it causes the giant worms to go into a frenzy. It's a very lush, detailed universe that truly goes off the rails by the time you reach the reign of Paul's son. This is science fiction for grownups, and I can't wait to see how far they take it. Great reaction!
His marriage to the emperors daughter was only for the throne. His father who in the books was married to another as well, and mother were leader and concubine. Chani would become his concubine.
Herbert said he wrote Dune to challenge the idea of the destined hero of prophecy that appears in so many other tales. Even a benevolent colonizer is still a colonizer. Paul is not the hero, he is a cautionary tale.
In the book, Chani was well aware of the arrangement to marry the Emperor's daughter, and knew it was political. She stayed with him and basically ruled the Empire. And the "wife" got moved to secretary, and historian writing his books. Princess Irulan got absolutely no love, or affection, or shared a bed with Paul Atreides. The director choose in the movie to make Chani not accept this, so that it makes it easier to transition into Dune- Messiah. Which builds out more characters, and MORE intrigue. There is a big time jump, about 12 years I believe in the book. But Alia Atreides, his sister, will be running the day to day things of the Empire.
There is a funny scene from the second Dune book. Princess Irulan comes to Paul to demand her rights as a wife. Paul just looks at her and says “Irulan you were picked to play a role. You know who my real wife is”. Irulan storms out in a huff because she knows she can’t control Paul through The Voice or feminine wiles. As soon as she leaves Chani comes in with two cups of coffee like “Homegirl still tripping on the marriage baby”. She then gives Paul a back rub while he sips his coffee. It’s good to be the Emperor.
Again, you two make the great even greater. It was a privilege to return to Dune with you two. Intelligent and emotional too. It was like watching the movie for the 1st time. Thanks again for your time and effort. You two have a gift. I am watching Interview with a Vampire with you. Will see you there.
Paul is the son of a Bene Gesserit, and trained in the body control techniques taught by his mother Jessica. He is also trained in mentat ways (all the human machine calculations that the mentats and navigators do). He has prescience and can instantly predict possible futures and change his attack and actions accordingly. I like that you both focused on Chani too. Thanks!
love your channel. i found you two while watching interview with the vampire season 1 - i'm holding off on season two until i can binge it!! but regarding today's video - it was precisely what i needed to lift me out of my funky mood this morning! thank you both for being a source of happiness and laughter when things get a little low over on my end. and wasn't dune part two wonderful? i saw it in iMax here in nyc when it came out - i went five times - i just thought it was mesmerizing - the visuals, the sound... everything. part one and part two is such a renaissance of exquieste film making - i hope hollywood can find its way back to this sorta formula when making films! anyway, again, thank you both for such a great reaction video!!
Really wish I saw this in Imax at the time. I went from not knowing anything to getting the audiobook the same day. Also really recommend lord of the rings if you've never seen it !
one old criticism about Dune is the notion that it is a white savior narrative, when in fact, its a critique on the idea of saviors as a whole. the books as a whole are a critique on the idea of putting all your stock on political/religious/influential figures. they are all flawed or straight up corrupt. even Duke Leto in the books wasnt 100% perfect because at the end of the day, he wanted to use the Fremen for the sake of "desert power," to have an edge against his enemies. Paul Atreides (and his future son) is the culmination of that corruption. he is the product of eugenics and he has Harkonnen in his heritage. the movie doesnt really cover this detail, but the Bene Gesserit dont necessarily want to use Paul to save humanity. they primarily want to use him as a tool to control the course of humanity, to lead it into a direction of their choosing for the sake of control and planning. as for Paul himself, when he sees visions of the future, he sees how destructive his existence is to the Imperium as a whole. he sees that if he rises to power via Fremen faith, he will be responsible for terrible things, a holy war in his name that will snuff out billions of innocent lives. he knows this, and he's terrified of it. that's why he's so hesitant to become That Guy to the Fremen, especially considering that the myth of That Guy was manufactured by the Bene Gesserit. but when push comes to shove, he cant protect those he cares about without becoming That Guy. that's why he chooses to become That Guy. and because Paul has embraced his role, he essentially converted an entire race of people into religious zealots. this is what Chani feared. because the Fremen now blindly follow Paul because of his (albeit true) promises of a better life for Arrakis as a whole, theyve effectively lost their ability to self-determine. they arent their own people anymore. if Denis adapts Dune Messiah, the second book in the series, you'll definitely see how devastating the aftermath is...
I wish in the end they included a bit from the books where Chani and Lady Jessica actually talk and she explains her own life as a royal concubine and explains to her that the Queen would be a political prisoner for the rest of her life and would never know love or touch and it would be Chanis children who would be the heirs
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He saw the only path to protect Chani. Remember he had a vision of her death. Like most rulers of men they can't marry for love but to strengthen their position.
Jessica was Leto's concubine. she had leto's heart and children, advised him, etc. his actual wife was a marriage of political nature. this is why paul needs to marry princess irulian. for the political impact of the union. These sort of political unions have occurred here on earth for thousands of years in numerous cultures. Up until recently, this was a very common practice.
Leto did not marry. They kept him "'open for marriage" for political reasons, but he never married. That's why he told Jessica he should've married her.
"All the bad Guys are gone" you said. :) That's not the case. Paul has become the bad guy. Billions on innocents will die in his holy war. The Fremen have become the Universes Taliban. That's what he saw. That's why he was so reluctant to go south and claim the title of Messiah. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. He knew. ;) He will try to curb the atrocities, but to almost no effect. The Fremen are religious fanatics now. There are no happy endings.
The Harkonnens are a truly twisted and tragic family. Their original sire Xavier Harkonnen was one of the commanders in the Butlerian Jihad - the war against Thinking Machines. It was the death of his son Manion that sparked the war. However, due to a following out with Vorian Atreides another leader in the war and a good friend, his family fell from grace. Over time his descendants on Giedi Prime became amoral and power hungry.
I just found this channel and I knew a minute in that I was going to subscribe! You guys are lovely, hilarious and have great energy and banter! I can't wait to binge-watch you all's videos! Keep up the great work, ladies!
The resistance against the Lisan al Ghaib mythology among Chani and her friends mirrors the message Frank Herbert meant to convey with the book, which was essentially that people should be very careful with messianic leaders. "You tell them a Messiah is coming, then they wait", says Chani. As opposed to fighting the oppressor themselves now, is the implication. So her fear is that the pious waiting is holding the Fremen back from winning back their freedom. (Though I guess there's some anti-colonial sentiment as well, what with the myth coming from off world). Denis Villeneuve changed Chani's arc a bit from the book, supposedly to have her carry Herbert's message. But for me it all gets a bit muddled at the end of the movie. I mean, what do you call a man-made myth that comes true? And does it make any difference any more?
Interesting reaction. The author wrote Dune to warn us about following charismatic leaders and the dangers of organizied religions. Both were made clear in the book and the movie but some people still rooted for Paul. Paul is from royalty. Trained by his father to rule over people and his mother to understand different cultures and their beliefs so they can better control them.. So it's not a coincidence he understood Freman language and customs. The moral compass in this movie was Chani. She fought for her people not for Paul. She believed if there was a Messiah it should come from her people not a white savior. But the movie does show that even today people will still cheer and follow leaders who tell them what they want to hear. Paul is not a hero and because of his actions billions of people will die from war and famine because Paul cut of spice to the other planets that don't bow to him.
23:57 Despite what the subtitles may say don’t be so sure those are women. From the books the Baron prefers his scantily clad personal assistants to be young and masculine. The director has tried to soften how big of a freak the Baron is from a sexual standpoint. He enjoys abusing the people around him including family members. Its heavily implied that he abused Feyd. He also has fantasies about doing vile things to Paul.
The reason women were the only one's who could become reverand mothers is actually really interesting in the lore. It's not about the pain (not entirely) but whose memories you're getting. Reverand Mothers gain access to their entire female line of memories. As opposed to Paul who could take the whole package. To be clear, they CAN access the memories, but the experience would kill them. I may be miss remembering here, but I've heard difference described as fighting against a raging river (the female half) vs being eating by a thousand hungry wolves (the male half). Though that might have been Wheel of Time...
Please watch Zendaya in The Challenges. Timothee Chalamet' in the King (Netflix), Wonka (Max) for his range. Any movie Javier Bardem was in. I would recommend Rebecca Ferguson in Silo (Apple). But it was only for 1 season. You seemed to alreadt seen Austin Butler in Elvis. But Wonka 1st. Its the complete opposite for Timothee. And he has an adorable sidekick.
The moment they drinked the water of life it’s a lot similar to how bran should’ve been once the three eyed raven took over his body he would not be like a robot but he’d be rather wise yet have a lot of personality not like how they did it in game of thrones
Yes ! Princess Irulan is just wife in name, IN THE BOOK AT THE END ! Story for the next movies....much later (Books 2 and 3 : Messiah of Dune and Children of Dune)
I love the vibe that you two brought to this reaction... I read the books many many moons ago and the only thing that isn't fully appreciated: is the montage of attacks with Paul and Chani spanned years instead of what felt like in one year. So the betrayal at the end is even more keenly felt with Paul's loveless marriage. OK, "Mucinex plug" ranks right up there with: "you Bean-bag of a man" and "... his Balsalmic butt". thanks for your reaction and all your effort. pj
Paul was a good person. Paul is dead. The Kwisatz Haderach has arisen in his place and is ALL the ancestors, any of whose personalities could possess him at any time. The same is true of Jessica…she is now ALL the Reverend Mothers that came before her. He’s no longer talking to her, he’s talking to all of them.
The storyline involving Paul’s sister, Alia, isn’t really touched on in the film. Spoiler alert: In the books, Alia actually kills Baron Harkonnen, not Paul. Probably for the best, though. Would’ve confused a lot of people.
Also would have been literally impossible to pull off. There isn't a 3yo in existence who can move like an adult, even if an older child dubbed her voice. I liked this movie's solution to the Alia problem.
Walking is so tiring. Walking in the desert would be so annoying. Now you have to do this little dancer cmon man, i would only make it 20 feet a day i know it. The fremen are built different.
Good reaction but the final , we await your orders lisan al gaib , and" lead them to paradise" was missed out ;( best line in the film with the sadness in his voice
it was perfectly cast... except for the emperor... in the books he was described as a 70ish year old man in the body of a 30 year old man, due to his excessive spice consumption.
Paul marries Irulan in order to keep the empire kind of together and lend himself legitimacy, Chani becomes his concubine and bears his children including The God Emperor Leto II
Paul is not fearful except for possible loss of Chani, because she does not believe in the prophesy, because is not religious. She believes Freyman must rule its own people. Paul knows if he doesn’t rule the Emperor, then he cannot save. … interesting how you two hosts are so supportive of Paul and not Chani… interesting ladies… you drank the KoolAid!
The hooks are used to pull open the gap between the segments on the worm. The inner tissue is sensitive to the sand so the worm rotates to keep it up out of the sand. When they want to get off, they just let go with the hooks and the worm dives, leaving them on the surface.
I’m so sorry we had to cut the arena scene! It got flagged for copyright and blocked, so I had to cut it😫
That was a great reaction! Thanks for the unending nightmares about ants crawling on my face while I'm sleeping.
It's all good. First video I saw of yall, and went ahead and subbed! Keep on keeping on. And if yall do take requests, I definitely recommend Gangs of New York, about gangs there from like the 1800s or so, and for a good comedy/mystery check out the Nice Guys. Even if not on the channel, they are jist good movies to see. Peace out cub scout
it’s weird how youtube picks and chooses who to copyright, cause I watched other creators and they basically have that whole scene in their videos 😒
Ah damn too bad :(((( thanks for the heads up
I laughed so hard every time you called him Paco Rabban.
to quote frank herbert the author of dune “I wrote the Dune series because I had this idea that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label on their forehead: 'May be dangerous to your health."
1:02:08 "she's wife in name only" - that's an important line in the book and left out in the movie. Glad, you said it here for us.
"We, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine-history will call us wives" is the last line in the book
@TruthWiz I think they did as to not piss of the female audience, to reflect todays thinking about relationship. Remember Chani's speech about equality, but there are no female leaders, because only the strongest warriors can lead and when Paul reach Sietch Tabr, he's given the option to take as his own Jamis's wife and kids...some women would veiw this as sexist so they kept it out of the movie.
@@Forty_six_and_two The funny thing is, in the book when Paul and Jessica meet the Fremen for the first time and Jessica defeats Stilgar using the Bene Gesserit martial art in order to show that she could be useful to the Fremen by teaching them how to fight the Bene Gesserit way, Stilgar suggests she replace the Reverend Mother because that's the only way the two of them could cohexist without her becoming his wife. Otherwise, the tribe would expect for her to challenge him, kill him and take his place as the leader of the tribe.
That is: in the book there is no prohibition for a woman to lead the tribe and Herbert made perfectly clear that the Fremen would accept a female leader if she ascended according to their traditional rules of succession.
In some way, the book was more in tune with modern sensibilities than the movie gives it credit for.
About Paul marrying Irulan, the book makes it very clear that it's just a political marriage meant to cement Paul's ascendency by respecting tradition. Marriage as a political "resource" is so accepted and ingrained in the setting that concubinage is considered perfectly normal. Nobody in the Dune universe expects that a noble would necessarily marry his/her love interest and so they provide for feelings to be taken care of by allowing rulers to have their significant others at their side as concubines.
Children born from concubines can also inherit the title of the ruler as proved by Paul (Jessica never married Duke Leto because Leto could use the prospect of marrying as a political lever in negotiations).
It makes sense in the context of the setting.
@@Forty_six_and_two that’s not why they changed her. denis says he wanted her to be skeptical as a way to remind the audience to be skeptical and weary of what paul is doing/becoming. frank herbert didn’t write paul as a hero or a good guy, and if you’ve read the books-after dune 2s timeline-paul and the fremen cause a lot of chaos across the galaxy. he knew the audience would be on paul’s side which is not what the author wanted. movie chani fits frank’s original intention a lot more than the book. the changes in the movie give the audience context, especially for those who aren’t familiar with the story, and imo keeps it from being too linear.
@TruthWiz having an opposition and split in the fremen actually better conveys the intention of the author better than the original text does. That's why the director did it so.
@TruthWiz
They'll probably reconcile towards the beginning of the next movie, so no harm done to the plot.
This is the best commentary I've ever seen on one of these! You guys are great!
Wow, thanks you!
By giving Jessica the Water of Life when she was pregnant, they inadvertently created a fully-aware Reverend Mother with all the powers of the Bene Gesserit inside the womb.
The women of the Bene Gesserit order have as close to total control of their body as it is possible to get. They can move each muscle individually as well as regulate each gland and even store infections and other pathogens safely and use them as weapons on command. Releasing an egg when needed and not haveing a menstral cycle are probably novice teachings.
Lady Jessica could transmute the Water-of-Life but couldn't control her morning sickness upon seeing the dead Harkonnen.
@kevinquinn7645 thats a movie fault😂
@@CallsignEskimo-l3o she did that so she can hide from stilgar, that she is pregnant.. shes trying to make stigar believe that she is just a regular person in that moment so she just let that vomit out.
All I know is, never get in a duel to the death with someone who can see the future and doesn't seem concerned.
'Paco Rabbane' omg y'all had so many hilarious comments! What an awesome film!
Great reaction video ladies. Although Paul’s journey was interesting to watch, keep in mind Paul and his family are members of Royalty. That’s why he married. The emperor’s daughter. It was a political move. Also, the Author wrote Dune as a warning against charismatic leaders. Which is Paul. Even though we are warn because of Paul’s actions billions of people will die. Chani was really the moral compass of this movie. She believed one of her own people should liberate her people, not an outsider.
"He's gonna resurrect like Jesus" got me howling!!! 😂😂
Damn, didnt expect you to pay so much attention to the finer details, big ups
So far, Denis Villeneuve is advancing what is possible within science fiction cinema. Because of the Butlerian Jihad, the Dune universe does not have computers or thinking machines, so there's an analog sensibility to all of their technology. Space travel only occurs because navigators use spice like a drug to foresee successful routes when travelling through folded space. Body shielding tech renders firearms mostly useless so everyone trains with blades for their combat. But those shields cannot be used in the deserts of Arrakis because it causes the giant worms to go into a frenzy. It's a very lush, detailed universe that truly goes off the rails by the time you reach the reign of Paul's son. This is science fiction for grownups, and I can't wait to see how far they take it. Great reaction!
His marriage to the emperors daughter was only for the throne. His father who in the books was married to another as well, and mother were leader and concubine. Chani would become his concubine.
Herbert said he wrote Dune to challenge the idea of the destined hero of prophecy that appears in so many other tales. Even a benevolent colonizer is still a colonizer. Paul is not the hero, he is a cautionary tale.
Y'all's reaction was amazing, glad I found your guys' channel! Earned a sub
Thank you so much!
In the book, Chani was well aware of the arrangement to marry the Emperor's daughter, and knew it was political. She stayed with him and basically ruled the Empire. And the "wife" got moved to secretary, and historian writing his books. Princess Irulan got absolutely no love, or affection, or shared a bed with Paul Atreides. The director choose in the movie to make Chani not accept this, so that it makes it easier to transition into Dune- Messiah. Which builds out more characters, and MORE intrigue. There is a big time jump, about 12 years I believe in the book. But Alia Atreides, his sister, will be running the day to day things of the Empire.
There is a funny scene from the second Dune book. Princess Irulan comes to Paul to demand her rights as a wife.
Paul just looks at her and says “Irulan you were picked to play a role. You know who my real wife is”. Irulan storms out in a huff because she knows she can’t control Paul through The Voice or feminine wiles. As soon as she leaves Chani comes in with two cups of coffee like “Homegirl still tripping on the marriage baby”. She then gives Paul a back rub while he sips his coffee.
It’s good to be the Emperor.
51:44 "Oh this is going to be a nice war" 😂 I am screaming
Okay setup! 👏🏽 Glad to see you two back in the reacting space!
Again, you two make the great even greater. It was a privilege to return to Dune with you two. Intelligent and emotional too. It was like watching the movie for the 1st time. Thanks again for your time and effort. You two have a gift. I am watching Interview with a Vampire with you. Will see you there.
Thank you so much❤️
Paul is the son of a Bene Gesserit, and trained in the body control techniques taught by his mother Jessica. He is also trained in mentat ways (all the human machine calculations that the mentats and navigators do). He has prescience and can instantly predict possible futures and change his attack and actions accordingly.
I like that you both focused on Chani too. Thanks!
3:50 when bodies are falling out of the sky..
Even though it never rains on Arrakis, It's raining Men hallelujah😅
I had to come back and watch this again - you two are such a brilliant, hilarious duo!! Thanks (again) for keeping me company on the treadmill!!!
Can't imagine the pressure now on Denis' shoulders to kill it with Part III.
love your channel. i found you two while watching interview with the vampire season 1 - i'm holding off on season two until i can binge it!! but regarding today's video - it was precisely what i needed to lift me out of my funky mood this morning! thank you both for being a source of happiness and laughter when things get a little low over on my end. and wasn't dune part two wonderful? i saw it in iMax here in nyc when it came out - i went five times - i just thought it was mesmerizing - the visuals, the sound... everything. part one and part two is such a renaissance of exquieste film making - i hope hollywood can find its way back to this sorta formula when making films! anyway, again, thank you both for such a great reaction video!!
Really wish I saw this in Imax at the time. I went from not knowing anything to getting the audiobook the same day. Also really recommend lord of the rings if you've never seen it !
Joined, what a refreshing take, yall are great!
I wish they hadn’t cut out that, in the book, Chani and Paul had a son (Leto I) who was killed in the attack on Sietch Tabr.
I almost spit out my water when you ladies said 'The Mucinex monster" Hahahaha! My first time watching you ladies. Great reaction!
Thank you so much 😁
one old criticism about Dune is the notion that it is a white savior narrative, when in fact, its a critique on the idea of saviors as a whole. the books as a whole are a critique on the idea of putting all your stock on political/religious/influential figures. they are all flawed or straight up corrupt. even Duke Leto in the books wasnt 100% perfect because at the end of the day, he wanted to use the Fremen for the sake of "desert power," to have an edge against his enemies.
Paul Atreides (and his future son) is the culmination of that corruption. he is the product of eugenics and he has Harkonnen in his heritage. the movie doesnt really cover this detail, but the Bene Gesserit dont necessarily want to use Paul to save humanity. they primarily want to use him as a tool to control the course of humanity, to lead it into a direction of their choosing for the sake of control and planning.
as for Paul himself, when he sees visions of the future, he sees how destructive his existence is to the Imperium as a whole. he sees that if he rises to power via Fremen faith, he will be responsible for terrible things, a holy war in his name that will snuff out billions of innocent lives. he knows this, and he's terrified of it. that's why he's so hesitant to become That Guy to the Fremen, especially considering that the myth of That Guy was manufactured by the Bene Gesserit. but when push comes to shove, he cant protect those he cares about without becoming That Guy. that's why he chooses to become That Guy. and because Paul has embraced his role, he essentially converted an entire race of people into religious zealots. this is what Chani feared. because the Fremen now blindly follow Paul because of his (albeit true) promises of a better life for Arrakis as a whole, theyve effectively lost their ability to self-determine. they arent their own people anymore.
if Denis adapts Dune Messiah, the second book in the series, you'll definitely see how devastating the aftermath is...
I wish in the end they included a bit from the books where Chani and Lady Jessica actually talk and she explains her own life as a royal concubine and explains to her that the Queen would be a political prisoner for the rest of her life and would never know love or touch and it would be Chanis children who would be the heirs
They cut the ENTIRE arena scene?? I’m speechless
It got flagged and blocked for copyright , I had to take it out
I was thinking, am I trippin? Kept thinking...maybe the arena comes later
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He saw the only path to protect Chani. Remember he had a vision of her death. Like most rulers of men they can't marry for love but to strengthen their position.
Jessica was Leto's concubine. she had leto's heart and children, advised him, etc. his actual wife was a marriage of political nature. this is why paul needs to marry princess irulian. for the political impact of the union. These sort of political unions have occurred here on earth for thousands of years in numerous cultures. Up until recently, this was a very common practice.
Leto did not marry. They kept him "'open for marriage" for political reasons, but he never married. That's why he told Jessica he should've married her.
He married fot political reasons before he knew Jessica. His wife and first son Paulus both died in an assassination attempt
In a few years, when the 3rd part arrives, we will have a 12 years time skip, with 65 billion deaths and Paul as revenging emperor.
"All the bad Guys are gone" you said. :) That's not the case. Paul has become the bad guy. Billions on innocents will die in his holy war. The Fremen have become the Universes Taliban. That's what he saw. That's why he was so reluctant to go south and claim the title of Messiah. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. He knew. ;) He will try to curb the atrocities, but to almost no effect. The Fremen are religious fanatics now. There are no happy endings.
I never read the books, but the harkonnen feel like they don’t have the ability to feel sadness/fear, only anger/arousal in place of it.
Agreed, they are much more complex in the books.
The Harkonnens are a truly twisted and tragic family. Their original sire Xavier Harkonnen was one of the commanders in the Butlerian Jihad - the war against Thinking Machines. It was the death of his son Manion that sparked the war.
However, due to a following out with Vorian Atreides another leader in the war and a good friend, his family fell from grace. Over time his descendants on Giedi Prime became amoral and power hungry.
I just found this channel and I knew a minute in that I was going to subscribe! You guys are lovely, hilarious and have great energy and banter! I can't wait to binge-watch you all's videos! Keep up the great work, ladies!
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed!
I read these books (the first three of over twenty anyway) in the 1980s as a teenager. So epic. Great reaction ladies. You guys are charming.
We need to read the books! The movies are amazing! Thank you😊
Paul wasn't facing his fear, he was facing his horror.
The resistance against the Lisan al Ghaib mythology among Chani and her friends mirrors the message Frank Herbert meant to convey with the book, which was essentially that people should be very careful with messianic leaders. "You tell them a Messiah is coming, then they wait", says Chani. As opposed to fighting the oppressor themselves now, is the implication. So her fear is that the pious waiting is holding the Fremen back from winning back their freedom. (Though I guess there's some anti-colonial sentiment as well, what with the myth coming from off world). Denis Villeneuve changed Chani's arc a bit from the book, supposedly to have her carry Herbert's message. But for me it all gets a bit muddled at the end of the movie. I mean, what do you call a man-made myth that comes true? And does it make any difference any more?
3:00 "run and float like in mario brothers" was a hilarious pull XD
Interesting reaction. The author wrote Dune to warn us about following charismatic leaders and the dangers of organizied religions. Both were made clear in the book and the movie but some people still rooted for Paul. Paul is from royalty. Trained by his father to rule over people and his mother to understand different cultures and their beliefs so they can better control them.. So it's not a coincidence he understood Freman language and customs. The moral compass in this movie was Chani. She fought for her people not for Paul. She believed if there was a Messiah it should come from her people not a white savior. But the movie does show that even today people will still cheer and follow leaders who tell them what they want to hear. Paul is not a hero and because of his actions billions of people will die from war and famine because Paul cut of spice to the other planets that don't bow to him.
"The last time the worm looked at them, it didn't try to...."
They had made it to rocks. Worms can't move on rock, so avoid it.
Okay y'all are two of my favorite reviewers now - love this reaction video to Dune: Part 2! Wish you could have seen this in 70mm IMAX too!
That would have been awesome! Thanks so much!
24:30, the worm didn’t attack because Jamis set off a thumper
23:57 Despite what the subtitles may say don’t be so sure those are women. From the books the Baron prefers his scantily clad personal assistants to be young and masculine. The director has tried to soften how big of a freak the Baron is from a sexual standpoint.
He enjoys abusing the people around him including family members. Its heavily implied that he abused Feyd. He also has fantasies about doing vile things to Paul.
The reason women were the only one's who could become reverand mothers is actually really interesting in the lore. It's not about the pain (not entirely) but whose memories you're getting. Reverand Mothers gain access to their entire female line of memories. As opposed to Paul who could take the whole package. To be clear, they CAN access the memories, but the experience would kill them. I may be miss remembering here, but I've heard difference described as fighting against a raging river (the female half) vs being eating by a thousand hungry wolves (the male half). Though that might have been Wheel of Time...
Please watch Zendaya in The Challenges. Timothee Chalamet' in the King (Netflix), Wonka (Max) for his range. Any movie Javier Bardem was in. I would recommend Rebecca Ferguson in Silo (Apple). But it was only for 1 season. You seemed to alreadt seen Austin Butler in Elvis. But Wonka 1st. Its the complete opposite for Timothee. And he has an adorable sidekick.
You guys are HILARIOUS! I loved this!
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14:16 Yeah, the 'little' ones… which are about 2-3 feet long(!)
Paul was not asleep, he was dealing with visions
7:06 Rabban was drunk. If you look closely he has a wine goblet in his hand.
Paul a man that wanted revenge and in that end his name became a monster and billions died.
The moment they drinked the water of life it’s a lot similar to how bran should’ve been once the three eyed raven took over his body he would not be like a robot but he’d be rather wise yet have a lot of personality not like how they did it in game of thrones
Oh ok that’s for that context!
Yes ! Princess Irulan is just wife in name, IN THE BOOK AT THE END ! Story for the next movies....much later (Books 2 and 3 : Messiah of Dune and Children of Dune)
29:55 if nobody mentioned the Baron is the inspiration for Jabba the Hut. Jabba also smokes a hookah
I love the vibe that you two brought to this reaction...
I read the books many many moons ago and the only thing that isn't fully appreciated: is the montage of attacks with Paul and Chani spanned years instead of what felt like in one year.
So the betrayal at the end is even more keenly felt with Paul's loveless marriage.
OK, "Mucinex plug" ranks right up there with:
"you Bean-bag of a man" and "... his Balsalmic butt".
thanks for your reaction and all your effort.
pj
I also haven’t finished it yet, but do they understand that Paul isn’t a good person just because he is the main character, right?
Paul was a good person. Paul is dead. The Kwisatz Haderach has arisen in his place and is ALL the ancestors, any of whose personalities could possess him at any time. The same is true of Jessica…she is now ALL the Reverend Mothers that came before her. He’s no
longer talking to her, he’s talking to all of them.
@@Mistmantle88 come on you know that's not what he meant lmfao
I felt that punch too 😂. I said "damn Chani"
wait lol fun fact Paco Rabanne is the designer who made florence pugh's chainmail headdress for the end scene lolol wasn't sure if u knew :)
The storyline involving Paul’s sister, Alia, isn’t really touched on in the film. Spoiler alert: In the books, Alia actually kills Baron Harkonnen, not Paul. Probably for the best, though. Would’ve confused a lot of people.
Also would have been literally impossible to pull off. There isn't a 3yo in existence who can move like an adult, even if an older child dubbed her voice. I liked this movie's solution to the Alia problem.
I love this movie; saw it 3 x's in theater. There were only two pieces I didn't like: Irulan's narrations and Alia as an adult.
Y'all had me hollering omg
Jesus, you two watch masterpieces in the best conditions possible. ^^;
If you enjoyed this director's work, you may want to give Arrival a watch.
Omg the Muscinex monster, haha!
What application or streaming site do you use to record and watch your films?
You ladies are hilarious. Love your reaction!!! 🎉😊
Thank you!! 😁
I hope you guys react to more movies. Love your reactions!
Thank you! We definitely will
Ok...well you ladies are an absolute BLAST to watch react. Gonna have to follow anf check out more of your videos 😂
Thank you so much 😁
Awesome reaction continued success
I laughed hard with you girls, great react!
Great reaction, As Written.
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Great review!!!!
Walking is so tiring. Walking in the desert would be so annoying. Now you have to do this little dancer cmon man, i would only make it 20 feet a day i know it. The fremen are built different.
Good reaction but the final , we await your orders lisan al gaib , and" lead them to paradise" was missed out ;( best line in the film with the sadness in his voice
Great reaction, ye girls are hilarious, love it! Ye just got a new subscriber from Ireland 🇮🇪👋
Awesome! Thank you!
Really enjoyed your reaction. :-)
Thank you!! 😁
Rebecca Ferguson is so dam fine
it was perfectly cast... except for the emperor... in the books he was described as a 70ish year old man in the body of a 30 year old man, due to his excessive spice consumption.
I hope you ladies do more movie reactions. :)
Paul marries Irulan in order to keep the empire kind of together and lend himself legitimacy, Chani becomes his concubine and bears his children including The God Emperor Leto II
you guys gotta do more film watches you are hilarious
Paul is not fearful except for possible loss of Chani, because she does not believe in the prophesy, because is not religious. She believes Freyman must rule its own people. Paul knows if he doesn’t rule the Emperor, then he cannot save. … interesting how you two hosts are so supportive of Paul and not Chani… interesting ladies… you drank the KoolAid!
Y’all should do a Patreon
We have one! Full Reaction is there☺️
He wasn’t asleep, he was talking to his unborn sister, Alia. You watched it happening and commented on it.
Damn, so you guys didn’t react to the arena scene???
We did, but it got copyrighted, so I had to remove most of it
I just want to see one damn video on how they get off the worms.
The hooks are used to pull open the gap between the segments on the worm. The inner tissue is sensitive to the sand so the worm rotates to keep it up out of the sand. When they want to get off, they just let go with the hooks and the worm dives, leaving them on the surface.
my first impression of you and your channel............. if the three actresses from the movie Hidden Figures had to played by you two. 😉
Only a few minutes in but y’all are funny 😂
can't wait for the season 2 house of the dragon reactions
Yall skipped the entire arena sequence?😭😭😭
I had to edit a bunch of it out due to copyright
1:0029, he killed Elvis...
😂😂😂
I don't think I would enjoy sitting in the cinema next to you
wasn’t the movie amazing? but at 49:21 lmfaooooooooooo ❤
Y'all hilarious!
Not Fat Man Scoop.
These girls are hilarious!
Thank you!