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  • @igorpedro8995
    @igorpedro8995 2 роки тому +1166

    "I'm not one of them valorant nerds"
    He says while badly playing valorant.

    • @Christian-gr3gu
      @Christian-gr3gu 2 роки тому +107

      I means he's right, If he was he know how to play

    • @drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749
      @drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749 2 роки тому +14

      He's not serious though,

    • @EtherFox
      @EtherFox 2 роки тому +20

      @@drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749 Sure he isn't lol, spazmonkey gonna spaz

    • @Fuzzycat16
      @Fuzzycat16 2 роки тому +1

      @@drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749 he looks pretty serious.

    • @He-who-wakes
      @He-who-wakes 2 роки тому

      @@EtherFox he's not. That's his character but good job showing your racism for no reason you old fuck

  • @kentlindal5422
    @kentlindal5422 2 роки тому +624

    "This will be the third fap in a row." Just remember to stay hydrated Dev.

    • @emile1365
      @emile1365 2 роки тому +9

      Wait until Dev meets Macca from the the Outer Circle=)

    • @Ryderman2000
      @Ryderman2000 2 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @igorpedro8995
      @igorpedro8995 2 роки тому +9

      And well fed by some one dollar meat.

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 роки тому +5

      Zinc supplements

  • @SpartanTrigger
    @SpartanTrigger 2 роки тому +444

    At least the religious right say I can still find salvation while the progressive says I am damned and evil for my race/sexuality.

    • @sasuey
      @sasuey 2 роки тому

      Unless you are gay, then you're just fucked (and not in a good way).

    • @Xplora213
      @Xplora213 2 роки тому +74

      The lack of redemption except for utter submission and supplication, like a SLAVE, will reveal these people as the Marvel comic villains they are. Honestly, it’s almost like Disney knew they had to subvert the hero’s journey trope because all the older guys know what a bad guy looks like - it’s the project lead at Disney now.

    • @MrSophire
      @MrSophire 2 роки тому +61

      I am a religious right, but that was because I was told the dignity of Human life must be upheld. I grow up in the 90s and it is funny to see everything that the right said would happen has happened when comes to LGBT and abortions. We right that we shouldn’t hyper focus on race etc. I agree with the video game rating system. There some things kids can and cannot handle. I think the main difference between the religious and the sjws is that we more or less stick to our principles, it is wrong not matter the side. And as you said there is redemption. No one is perfect.

    • @phantom8926
      @phantom8926 2 роки тому +17

      Because they see themselves as irredeemable therefore everyone else must be as well.

    • @bocchithean-cap3404
      @bocchithean-cap3404 2 роки тому

      There's a difference between religious right and woke left
      The religious right wants for you to find salvation
      The woke left wants genocide

  • @zach6210
    @zach6210 2 роки тому +487

    "Only the white characters can heal" LMFAO

    • @Strawberrymilkdrink
      @Strawberrymilkdrink 2 роки тому +3

      Ehh I've heard better

    • @Sines314
      @Sines314 2 роки тому +53

      The reaction there was great. The first video made him look like an idiotic spaz. That time he had the look of someone who accepted the trash that came his way as a fair play. Made me sympathize with him more.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 2 роки тому +6

      That was banter, they didn't have to fake a spaz out for a reaction.

    • @DeadpoolX9
      @DeadpoolX9 2 роки тому

      @@lainiwakura1776 I mean the mans still strangely charismatic.
      I have no interest whatsoever in the others.
      This is why it’s the fucking xanned out generation.
      God forbid someone goes ham.
      You’re like the goth kids from South Park who are too cool to do anything and are just boring af as a consequence.
      Man says some shit about dishes.
      OH FUCK HOW CAN HE DO THAT? Women must be protected!
      People whisper racial insults.
      Everybody sleeps.
      Priorities man.
      Yours are fucked.

    • @DeadpoolX9
      @DeadpoolX9 2 роки тому

      That’s literally more damaging than whatever the fuck he says to the other losers.

  • @Alakazzam09
    @Alakazzam09 2 роки тому +540

    It's difficult to face the monsters you create. Especially when they're the ones to replace you.

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому +11

      I would be most disappointed if my child acted this way, even online. He would be in for an even worse time because I would have to insist he find something else to play if it gets him that angry.

    • @caiobotelho8528
      @caiobotelho8528 2 роки тому +20

      @Gomam0n yeah, if you dont SCREAM for minutes straight like a toddler when playing ANYTHING, why play am i right

    • @rogbard
      @rogbard 2 роки тому +18

      @@caiobotelho8528 Oh, come on. Do kids really need to behave like little adults all the time for you to feel safe and validated?

    • @Alakazzam09
      @Alakazzam09 2 роки тому +9

      @@bon7029 I remember my dad telling me there is no how-to guide to parenting. He made sure I knew he was making shit up and probably making a mistake or two. His job was to get me to self-sufficiency, sanity intact. Now that I'm a dad I realize 1 out of 2 ain't bad. He allowed me to make mistakes, make up my own mind and made sure to remind me he loved me. I'm not saying don't correct the kid, just don't hang him out to dry. That creates a monster. A monster that will inflict that pain on his kids and continue the cycle. I could be wrong though, there is no how-to guide to life either.

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому +8

      @@rogbard No but self control is a skill that people NEED to learn early on. Also knowing when to just walk away is also a skill that NEEDS to be learn early on.
      I like to play Sea of Thieves, if I get annoyed, I bow out and find something else to play. That happens surprisingly rarely though as I have found ways of avoiding being irritated, especially by other players.
      That said, I'm not going to go into a screeching rage filled rant because my ship got sunk. I'm going to chalk it up to the other crew being better, especially given that in the end, it doesn't matter because there's nothing to be gained from playing, except a good time.

  • @Andyisgodcky
    @Andyisgodcky 2 роки тому +285

    He's not even good at trash talk. He's just swinging at the low hanging fruit.

    • @patrickbateman312
      @patrickbateman312 2 роки тому +50

      Just joggers saying jogger things

    • @jedikye
      @jedikye 2 роки тому

      It wasn't trash talk or banter at all it was just a tism storm, this is LTG level lol cow shit. This is such a shit hill to try and defend.

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому +42

      He is painfully unfunny but it is still his gig as a troll streamer. People pay him to do it so he'll keep up the act until he's older.

    • @PvtFlowers
      @PvtFlowers 2 роки тому +65

      I mean the art of trash talk is becoming a bygone thing. Don't blame a warrior for being weak when there is nothing to sharpen your steel on.

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 2 роки тому +7

      @@PvtFlowers
      Good point

  • @ZestyJesus
    @ZestyJesus 2 роки тому +91

    My God, if you could see the state Team Fortress 2 is in right now in regards to censorship of banter and offensive language. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, because Valve at least understands that their games have mute/block functions, so you can get rid of things you don't want to see (Thank God, unlike Riot Games).
    However now, given that Valve's own TF2 servers are unplayable due to an inundation of cheater bots (that Valve can't be bothered to deal with), players are now funneled into community operated game servers, where they're at the mercy of arbitrary rules largely based on personal ethics (i.e. banning people for saying what someone subjectively considers to be a slur, for bullying, for toxicity, etc.). Rules against slurs have more weight over rules against cheating, it seems.
    You can't engage in banter without fear of saying the right (wrong) thing that triggers another player into reporting you to a server administrator. Some servers have slur filters that auto-ban you upon typing certain words (and if they don't have a filter, admins scour server logs for slurs to ban players). Some servers even keep track of weapon names and descriptions (since you can customize these things in TF2) and if they're offensive to the right person, you're banned. In some cases I've seen players banned for simply owning an item named something "offensive," that they weren't actively using. Someone went out of their way to dig inside of a steam inventory to find something worth banning them over.
    Yes, "Their servers, their rules." "You're just mad that you can't say slurs, bigot!" They can enforce whatever policies they want, but given that these community operated servers are the ONLY option these days, we're kinda screwed. TF2, in terms of its playerbase, has become a weird shadowy husk of its former self. Part of the soul of TF2 (the players, the camaraderie, the banter) has either been banned, or neutered for fear of being banned, from one of the last few places to enjoy the game. It just sucks.
    I've been playing TF2 since 2011. I don't understand what's happened to this game, maybe I'm too old. I can't place when this transition into hugbox-safespace land happened (I think somewhere around 2016), but good lord the vocal portion if this game's playerbase is nothing like it was a decade ago. Every other day they're jumping down someone's throat for saying something they don't like instead of enjoying the game and having fun.
    It's all so tiresome.

    • @da_bloodytanktf5348
      @da_bloodytanktf5348 2 роки тому +14

      I got banned from TF2Center cause my loose cannon was named "NIGER WEPON".
      They even assumed that it's the N slur when it's not, that was the joke and they fell for it.

    • @sylic1678
      @sylic1678 2 роки тому +11

      It's the same thing that has happened to any fandom that was a thing during the 90's or early 2000's. They have the fans that have been in them since the start or have been in there for a while, a new generation of paper-skinned people get into it and change it culturally or changed it so radically from what it was and the older folks hate it and leave or go form smaller groups within said fandom.

    • @fivestarman1291
      @fivestarman1291 2 роки тому +1

      You reminded me why I don't play online shooters anymore. I used to be a Battlefield 2 guy until everything went to crap in that game.

    • @bewaryofbug
      @bewaryofbug 2 роки тому +2

      joining valve servers from the server browser was peak tf2
      also i thought i recognized you, your video on how the comp crowd ruined weapon balancing across the board was spot on.

    • @malbasedvalentine3210
      @malbasedvalentine3210 2 роки тому +6

      I suppose you can say these servers are unrionically fascist. As expected, people don’t see the reality of how humans are by nature. Yet we’re conditioned to believe fascism only existed with one group lol.

  • @hellspawn22001
    @hellspawn22001 2 роки тому +389

    Summed up wonderfully by all the celebrities who where “traumatized” by the Will Smith slap. They actually believe they are traumatized because everything is the worst thing to ever happen.

    • @garybicknell2135
      @garybicknell2135 2 роки тому +11

      This from the generation that saw as normal the Big E Smalls-Tupac thing as normal for entertainment.

    • @wickedlee664
      @wickedlee664 2 роки тому +7

      Those were ADULTS on the Oscar’s….

    • @dingus748
      @dingus748 2 роки тому

      I don't know if I envy them or not because on one side, they're so privileged and coddled something that mild makes them genuinely upset meaning their lives are so lavish I can't even imagine, on another hand I don't think I can handle being such a pussy. I wouldn't be able to have fun and laugh things off if I were like them so in a way I'm glad I'm not some pampered rich person.

    • @malbasedvalentine3210
      @malbasedvalentine3210 2 роки тому

      No because it’s degenerate, and a bad influence to children who probably look up to adults like will smith. Though why they choose him as an influence? Who knows.

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 2 роки тому

      It's astounding how they manage to make everything about themselves. Amy Schumacher acted like she was the one getting slaped.

  • @DoMyHomework_
    @DoMyHomework_ 2 роки тому +295

    Sara did Speed a favor. He now has an excuse to delete the "anti-cheat" Chinese rootkit.

    • @Thanatos2996
      @Thanatos2996 2 роки тому +28

      Who's to say it's ever actually gone? The trouble with rootkits is that they can be damn near undetectable once they're installed.

    • @TransRoofKorean
      @TransRoofKorean 2 роки тому

      It's too bad League of Legends is such a shit game because it's their only game they weren't able to change the ToS to shove that into the client. It's why they incorporated their other games into the basic console, to try to get that shoved onto every player's computer they can.
      Nothing new from Rito can ever be trusted; they're equivalent to the CCP now.

    • @BirthdayFreak67
      @BirthdayFreak67 2 роки тому +30

      @@Thanatos2996 just delete system 32 and an hero.

    • @DigitalApex
      @DigitalApex 2 роки тому +11

      @@BirthdayFreak67 Rub magnets on your hard drive, easy

    • @specimenlarry6068
      @specimenlarry6068 2 роки тому

      What is a rootkit?

  • @jbonkerz
    @jbonkerz 2 роки тому +122

    "I'm not one of them valorant nerds"
    He is right, if he was he would actually be good.

  • @GameFuMaster
    @GameFuMaster 2 роки тому +442

    ishowspeed career isn't over. His whole over the top reactions is what got him to fame. Valorant is just one of many games lol

    • @lloydtancred
      @lloydtancred 2 роки тому

      I’ll never watch dick heads like ishowspeed

    • @svagglaorde4387
      @svagglaorde4387 2 роки тому +3

      Is he really banned on all games made by Riot games or is it just valorant?

    • @Ballbroth
      @Ballbroth 2 роки тому +52

      @@svagglaorde4387 all riot games, because its a pox of a company

    • @datachu
      @datachu 2 роки тому +31

      @@svagglaorde4387 Well if the tweet from staff is to be believed he was banned from all Riot Games. Wouldn't be the first time it happened to an edgy streamer. And wouldn't be the first time they didn't find something else or make a new account, either

    • @MrHonkler
      @MrHonkler 2 роки тому +4

      Ishowspeed is a legend

  • @maximus4765
    @maximus4765 2 роки тому +105

    The cycle of infinite complaining.
    "Facism" is just "not doing what I say, being like me, or agreeing with me enough" these days.

    • @CTViewer07
      @CTViewer07 2 роки тому +9

      To them, “fascism” is a label they give to people whom disagree and dissent from their views.

    • @TransRoofKorean
      @TransRoofKorean 2 роки тому +3

      @@CTViewer07 You're not allowed to spell fascism correctly on the internet, wtf u doin

    • @ExeErdna
      @ExeErdna 2 роки тому +1

      @@CTViewer07 Then they wonder why the kids coming up are spitting in their face.

    • @malbasedvalentine3210
      @malbasedvalentine3210 2 роки тому

      Everything is realistically fascist in nature. All ideologies follow the same tactics and beliefs. It’s why socialists who hate fascism, use the same fascism themselves or it’s noticed by others. All governments want to rule with an iron fist, because the people can’t.
      I welcome fascism, but not the degenerate one built by profiteering capitalism.

    • @cwg9238
      @cwg9238 2 роки тому

      its not fascism its "compassion!"

  • @TheKaisama
    @TheKaisama 2 роки тому +188

    To be fair, deaing with screechers in online lobbies is super annoying even if I used to be just as bad once upon a time. If only there was something I as a person could do to not have to hear them. An option I could click on that wouldn't ruin the experience for either of us. Game developers really should look into a 'quiet' button or something.
    Ain't it amazing how these people know how to block people on twitter they've never interacted with yet can't seem to find the mute player button in a game?

    • @LipSinkProductions
      @LipSinkProductions 2 роки тому

      Hey dumbass, this was done on stream and then broadcasted to millions of people. How do you mute something like that? Oh yeah, ban him.
      You’re really stupid.

    • @jedikye
      @jedikye 2 роки тому +4

      @@lostalone9320 a lot of games do that for reports but adding something that tracks how often someone gets muted sounds like a good extra step.

    • @Coffee_paradox
      @Coffee_paradox 2 роки тому +8

      It’s almost like the game is a team-base game that requires cooperation and refusing to cooperate + shittalking everyone and forcing people to mute you is the antithesis of the game…

    • @TheKaisama
      @TheKaisama 2 роки тому +5

      @@Coffee_paradox Key word there is 'game'.

    • @Coffee_paradox
      @Coffee_paradox 2 роки тому

      @@TheKaisama yeah, so he’s now banned from the game. Seems reasonable to me.
      Nobody:
      Dumb obnoxious ass: Ruins peoples game.
      Dumb obnoxious ass: Got banned from games.
      Surprise Pikachu face.

  • @DynamicDandalf
    @DynamicDandalf 2 роки тому +111

    Did you just call the act man a woke scold? He has like 3 videos talking about how SJWs are ruining gaming. Pretty sure he's talking about the hissy fit, not the language. The guy in the video is losing his mind getting angry, that's clearly what the act man is referencing?

    • @keeganhooker8448
      @keeganhooker8448 2 роки тому

      Yeah I noticed that too, I think he didn’t know who he was and immediately thought he was another woke idiot, meanwhile if you knew who he was you would know he likes to clown on people doing dumb things.

    • @troy612
      @troy612 2 роки тому +14

      I think you're right. He probably realized that the banter was part of his streaming persona and so deleted the tweet about it.
      Otherwise I can't understand why he'd still have those tweets with all the slurs in them just looking to be cancelled.
      I haven't watched Act Man since his sponsored New World video shitshow but I enjoy his critiques of the games (mostly shooters) industry.

    • @Fuzzycat16
      @Fuzzycat16 2 роки тому +45

      Banter is fine. That screeching and tantrum tho? no thanks.

    • @saisameer8771
      @saisameer8771 2 роки тому +44

      Dev seems to have forgotten that we are allowed to make fun of people throwing hissy fits over multiplayer games. We all make fun of Ninja for it, so why not this guy?

    • @darthgamer9861
      @darthgamer9861 2 роки тому +31

      Yeah Dev really dropped the ball there. Apparently we cant make fun of people shrieking about Valorant without being called an idiot now.

  • @Kodasa_Sinclair
    @Kodasa_Sinclair 2 роки тому +454

    I may believe speeds rant from the clip was super cringy, but I'd die defending his right to say it.

    • @Winasaurus
      @Winasaurus 2 роки тому +88

      Based take. Going on a 10 minute tirade about women getting in the kitchen isn't worth silencing someone over, but it's definitely cringe. I mean, get some new material than I had in world at war, bro. Call her trans or something, at least.

    • @existinginaspace8347
      @existinginaspace8347 2 роки тому +13

      In public yes.
      But everyone knows by this point that US rights, don't extend to company's and their services. It's shit, but that show it is. It will likely never change.

    • @existinginaspace8347
      @existinginaspace8347 2 роки тому +22

      @@Winasaurus Agreed. If your gonna go all out. You gotta go for the throat at all times. His rant is cringe entry level shit you might find on Roblox... If your spitting venom with the most heinous shit imaginable. Then your weak. Both sides were weak.

    • @TheSoldierChristian
      @TheSoldierChristian 2 роки тому +2

      Same

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому +19

      I would too, but if he was at my LAN party, he would also be snatched out of his chair and thrown out of the front door for being disrespectful.
      Shit talk is one thing, but keep it respectful.

  • @JexticJunior
    @JexticJunior 2 роки тому +53

    The Act man is not a SJW tho, he was refering to the dudes aggressive behaviour rather then any "inappropriate" language.

    • @ashenone3883
      @ashenone3883 2 роки тому +17

      Yeah just a bad take

    • @hakimehamdouchi7468
      @hakimehamdouchi7468 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah but if you have a history like the act man you have no tights to jump on someone for gamer raging.

    • @jffry890
      @jffry890 2 роки тому

      @@hakimehamdouchi7468 You're allowed to change you mind. Act Man also wasn't implying that the kid "can't" rage. He's saying he "shouldn't" act like that. Just because you were a filthy fucking commie as a teenager doesn't mean you can't talk shit to commie teenagers nowadays. That's a dumb fucking take and is the exact logic that people use to try to cancel others with years-old comments.

  • @BoxyBrown717
    @BoxyBrown717 2 роки тому +58

    ishowspeed might be the first streamer I've ever seen with a dedicated nostril cam.

  • @Zantetsudex
    @Zantetsudex 2 роки тому +110

    Carlin made a whole sketch about this. Essentially, the more things change the more they stay the same, thus the cycle repeats itself and people become the very puritanical adults they've reviled when they were young.

    • @Masami_Salami
      @Masami_Salami 2 роки тому

      The left became the very thing which they hated about the right throughout the 1990s - 2000s.

    • @CrazyJabberwock
      @CrazyJabberwock 2 роки тому +2

      The best we can hope for is for those people to display self awareness in their transition.

    • @TransRoofKorean
      @TransRoofKorean 2 роки тому +7

      These people are eventually going to deny Carlin, too. A big part of Carlin's eternal fame was never backing down as a geezer, homing in on the important thing, like "no, fuck you, I'm _going to keep saying the _*_seven naughty words."_*
      It's weird how someone says "not growing up isn't a flex" not realizing there are two sides to that coin: taking words, insults, slights against your character, and never figuring out how to just brush them off *is also not growing up.* Growing up _inherently involves_ returning kindness for perceived insults, it requires you bearing the weight of things you might label as "injustices" (when really they are what are appropriately called "slights").

    • @Sines314
      @Sines314 2 роки тому +2

      All of our technology and civilization is layered on pretty much the same apes that were really impressed when one of the tribe figured out how to regularly produce fire. Genetically speaking, we're not meaningfully different from that.
      As so some things will just repeat, over and over, because we're still that same animal. And precious few of us are wise enough to spot the true pattern to history, to learn not to repeat it. To not say "Well it's different because...". I think that even those who do learn history are all too often doomed to repeat it. For pretty much the same reason that you'll have a hell of a time teaching a cat to walk on their back legs.

    • @fivestarman1291
      @fivestarman1291 2 роки тому +1

      @@Sines314 "Frightening isn't it? The cursed destiny of man."

  • @hardromeo436
    @hardromeo436 2 роки тому +40

    This is the kinda guy I'd just mute and then move on with my life. I'll never understand woke scolds clutching their pearls over lobby trash talk

  • @christerjonsall5415
    @christerjonsall5415 2 роки тому +139

    I was never part of the "toxic gamer lobby/gaming" sphere so pardon me if I'm completely mistaken, but does inanely screeching into the mic count as 'trashtalk' or 'banter'? Cause fk me that was horrendous

    • @sparaxisblanc2473
      @sparaxisblanc2473 2 роки тому +60

      Agreed. Calling that "banter" came off as crazy to me.

    • @BanditZRaver
      @BanditZRaver 2 роки тому +38

      The old joke is this
      "LOUD EQUAL FUNNY"
      Not everyone likes it, but sometimes a loud, yelling person is funny.

    • @Boonoojootoo
      @Boonoojootoo 2 роки тому +24

      One form of trash talk and banter, yes.
      You literally wouldn't get it.

    • @existinginaspace8347
      @existinginaspace8347 2 роки тому +36

      It counts as cringe. Not banter or shit talk.

    • @Fuzzycat16
      @Fuzzycat16 2 роки тому +38

      doesnt count as trashtalk or banter. It's just screeching.

  • @landonhagan450
    @landonhagan450 2 роки тому +35

    Pretty sure The Act Man isn't a wokescold type considering he's made UA-cam videos mocking SJW talking points fairly recently, including the Extra Credits "Orcs are racist" fiasco. Maybe I'm missing context here, but it seems like he was just reacting more to how generally crazy that kid went than to the bitch comments. He probably deleted it just to disengage from the whole situation.

    • @MegaDeathRay10
      @MegaDeathRay10 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah that sounds like him.

    • @gabnash5998
      @gabnash5998 2 роки тому +1

      So did Mundane Matt……….remember how that turned out?

    • @MegaDeathRay10
      @MegaDeathRay10 2 роки тому +2

      @@gabnash5998 if act man becomes the next quarry king I will lose all faith in humanity.

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому +3

      @@gabnash5998 just because Mundane Matt is a terrible doesn't everyone else is doomed to imitate him.

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому +4

      I would bet when someone explained to him Speed is a troll who farms outrage he deleted it. That or drunk tweeting considering he's trying to get sober.
      If Actman deleted his videos making fun of progs and SJWs maybe I would believe it. Him walking into Twitter drama only to bow out of it is pretty meanless.

  • @umwha
    @umwha 2 роки тому +40

    Eh, i dont agree. I thought what he said was painfully stupid and annoying. I cringe that others will imitate him. Its not banter if its not in the slightest clever. Its the worst example of spoiled edgey teen '''humour''.. They need to be told that you have to be more witty to be funny, othereise they wont improve.

    • @harleymitchelly5542
      @harleymitchelly5542 2 роки тому

      While true, the corollary to this is, "You are in a game you can punish him in." He's a streamer eh? Stream snipe his bitch-ass until he learns. That's how you do it.

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому

      Why improve being spewing verbal diarrhea gets views?

    • @anodyne4670
      @anodyne4670 2 роки тому +2

      only people who are bothered by immature edgy teen humour are immature people. Kids do this because it works on other immature kids. People who decry it as a "worst example of spoiled edgey teen 'humour'" are exposing their own immaturity.
      It take immaturity to be bothered by immature things, and maturity to laugh about it.

  • @MikeP5830
    @MikeP5830 2 роки тому +82

    ActMan wasnt wokescolding, he just sees a kid sperging out lol

    • @CTViewer07
      @CTViewer07 2 роки тому +27

      I remember seeing ActMan calling out SJWs for ruining gaming. Not exactly a wokescold in my book.

    • @danl0134
      @danl0134 2 роки тому +33

      I thought this was weird to include in the video too. ActMan isn't woke at all, contrary to that. I guess Dev might not be familiar with his channel.

    • @BruhMoment-fr4zr
      @BruhMoment-fr4zr 2 роки тому +16

      I think Dev isn't aware who Acting Male is, he's definitely not a progtard lol

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому +12

      Yes the Acting Male known as the Actman is as anti woke as you can get without becoming a political youtube channel.
      He was literally mocking progs in his last upload. Dev talk the dude he would be a fun stream guest to talk about gaming with.

    • @bellsknell3297
      @bellsknell3297 2 роки тому +17

      Honestly, I'm noticing more and more than Dev doesn't really seem to care. Like, if you just looked at ActMan's stuff for 5 fucking minutes you would understand that he's not a wokescold and it making fun of Speed for having a meltdown. And you can't tell me that Dev didn't when he went through ActMan's twitter feed and would have seen him calling out woke stuff. Getting sick of Dev's shit.

  • @1three7
    @1three7 2 роки тому +47

    I like your consistency about banter. But I think most people calling for speeds ban were doing so because a white guy would have been banned from streaming at least for a lot less. Honestly if speed hadn't targeted women he would have been fine yelling racist crap.
    I agree with you people should be able to be assholes. But if platforms are going to ban people they should do so consistently.

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому +15

      Oh man, imagine a white gamer calling a black guy a monkey, he would have been banned from YT gaming, the game itself, and probably Twitter, Facebook, and IG, even if they DIDN'T post on those platforms.

    • @1three7
      @1three7 2 роки тому +16

      @@bon7029 visa and Mastercard would have cancelled his cards and bank of America would close his accounts.

  • @Clint52279
    @Clint52279 2 роки тому +24

    "Banter?" That is "banter?" It's a loon screaming people down. There's no wit or zingers, just rage screaming. Its not even trash talk... he's just screaming, he may as well be screaming random words from the dictionary and pretend they're insults.

    • @dirtydeeds4free553
      @dirtydeeds4free553 2 роки тому +2

      A. He is still a child
      B. The left acts no different, and even the right tho not to the same extreme at the moment

    • @crusaderray1828
      @crusaderray1828 2 роки тому

      @@dirtydeeds4free553 You're both correct.

    • @dirtydeeds4free553
      @dirtydeeds4free553 2 роки тому

      @@crusaderray1828 ik, but it is banter. Tho that depends on the person. Some people dont think so, just as sometimes when i say i love the homies some people get offended and it isnt banter to them.

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 2 роки тому

      Because as we all know, it takes an insane amount of measurable intelligence to comprehend an art form know as "banter"

  • @cookiecreep9204
    @cookiecreep9204 2 роки тому +149

    Dev, you could have warned, this guy got my tinitus to another level with those screams, i was prepared for your soft and calm voice instead :D

    • @brandonhelcher3691
      @brandonhelcher3691 2 роки тому +10

      He's so obnoxious, how is he popular?

    • @drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749
      @drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749 2 роки тому +11

      @@brandonhelcher3691 His character is over the top, but he's a pretty genuine guy irl.

    • @sierran0v
      @sierran0v 2 роки тому +5

      @@brandonhelcher3691 He's obviously not being serious

    • @patterofheads256
      @patterofheads256 2 роки тому +5

      @@sierran0v there's nothing "obvious" about it.

    • @rokor3578
      @rokor3578 2 роки тому

      @@brandonhelcher3691 sounds like you're old

  • @teje009
    @teje009 2 роки тому +27

    Really weird how you could have checked the Act Man’s channel for five minutes and see he isn’t woke but you already had all the tweets of his sins. You jumped the gun on that one.

    • @notfunnydidntlaugh8621
      @notfunnydidntlaugh8621 2 роки тому +4

      I mean, this seems like a reasonal first impression if someone hasn't ever seen Act Man before.

    • @hakimehamdouchi7468
      @hakimehamdouchi7468 2 роки тому

      I've a big fan for the act man since 2016. But that tweet was the first in a series of similar ones. He is in no way in the right to jump on the guy knowing his past. He justified his stance by saying those were old tweets as if that means shit when you're going after a 17 years old.

  • @D00dman
    @D00dman 2 роки тому +32

    Bruh, that Valorant clip slayed me. The absolute chaos in him getting more and more aggressive and all the other noises going on in the background.

    • @afez2752
      @afez2752 2 роки тому

      Pure autism as i love it.

    • @topkek996
      @topkek996 2 роки тому +1

      Chimpmode: Active

  • @drd1983dd
    @drd1983dd 2 роки тому +39

    You should definitely give The Act Man a watch Dev. You'll find that you have more incommon with him than you think 🤔

    • @JonborgVA
      @JonborgVA 2 роки тому +7

      yeah I think he just made one bad tweet and was like well I made a mistake lol

    • @AJadedLizard
      @AJadedLizard Рік тому

      Nah, he's just an idiot, famous for such takes as "Resident Evil 7 is the best Resident Evil game ever" followed immediately by "I've never played it."
      I don't understand why people like him. He's just peddling the non-SJW version of the Approved Opinion.

  • @Party_Almsivi
    @Party_Almsivi 2 роки тому +9

    >1997 was 25 years ago
    Time is a cruel and uncaring thing.

  • @mercaius
    @mercaius 2 роки тому +17

    One of my least favorite "PC grandstanding" moves is the older internet celeb who makes a big show of apologizing for their old behavior. After all, they were just young kids at the time, and did not know better.
    "But with your help, we can make sure the next generation of children never get away with this bullshit again."

  • @kalikombatives3608
    @kalikombatives3608 2 роки тому +41

    Imagine banning a popular streamer for bad words when your game is inherently violent.

    • @Fuzzycat16
      @Fuzzycat16 2 роки тому +7

      wait... Valorant is violent? That shit is like paintball.

    • @LipSinkProductions
      @LipSinkProductions 2 роки тому

      Yeah i know right, i should be able to send death threats to people over violent games because they are inherently violent.
      Do you see how stupid you sound?

    • @kalikombatives3608
      @kalikombatives3608 2 роки тому +1

      @@Fuzzycat16 first person shooters are “violent”

  • @Winasaurus
    @Winasaurus 2 роки тому +76

    Sure, not growing isn't a flex, but neither is pathetically overreacting to any slightly non-PC comment. Also proving the original guy right. He's sperging out over a comment about MW2 lobbies that doesn't even contain a slur and going on a tirade when the guy just said the lobbies are bad. Actually being in one would kill the guy.
    Also, I hate IShowSpeed, and that whole rant was cringe as hell, but I don't think it deserves anything happening for it. "Get back in the kitchen" and "You're a whore" is like baby's first roasting we had when voice chat was invented. Surely we're on to bigger and better insults. Tell her to go to Ukraine or something more relevant, jeez.

    • @TransRoofKorean
      @TransRoofKorean 2 роки тому +2

      And there's also a huge difference between a day or a week ban from a game and a permanent ban on all of their games, like... wow. The problem is when you start permabanning everything outrageous, the censorious nature of it only becomes more and more concentrated until the lightest banter earns the banhammer. Seen it with too damn many games.
      And it's kinda like "oh shut up you're a girl get in the kitchen why are you here" isn't a flex either, but it's also _so the fuck what._

    • @AlphaWolfShade
      @AlphaWolfShade 2 роки тому

      @@TransRoofKorean That's how these companies die, over performing and creating a niche for competition rather than trying to be the best in the field. These companies were not always giants and they had to capitalize upon the mistakes of the old giants before the took over. It's just funny how history rhymes.

    • @anodyne4670
      @anodyne4670 2 роки тому +3

      Being able to tolerate immature behavior is a mark of maturity. Like you said, it's "baby's first roasting." The reason why kid say these thing is because it only works on other kids.
      If they are "grown out of it" as they claimed, they would not be bothered by the immature toxic lobby talk.
      It takes maturity to laugh at immature things; and immaturity to be bothered by it.

  • @ShortFatOtaku
    @ShortFatOtaku  2 роки тому +24

    I'm streaming on the gaming channel right now lads: twitch.tv/gameboomers & ua-cam.com/users/gameboomer
    I'll be on EFAP tonight: ua-cam.com/users/MauLerUA-cam
    seeya there i love you

    • @fearthehoneybadger
      @fearthehoneybadger 2 роки тому

      This guy is going to have a stroke before he's 40.

    • @AndrewAce.
      @AndrewAce. 2 роки тому

      Saw you on the Mauler Lego Star Wars stream yesterday. :)

    • @ultragamer4465
      @ultragamer4465 2 роки тому +1

      6:14 i dont think the act man actually is a woke scold but meant speed should calm down. When he noticed he was gettin rolled up with the woke scolds he deleted the tweet. He is vehemently anti sjw so its unlikely

    • @mkv2718
      @mkv2718 2 роки тому

      you clearly don’t know who ActMan is, the dude calls out sjws, he’s not a wokescold. in fact, i think you might be getting more worked up by this whole thing in a weird way too dude

    • @Party_Almsivi
      @Party_Almsivi 2 роки тому

      Get ready to experience the anguish of Hasan today.

  • @DreadPirateRoberts121
    @DreadPirateRoberts121 2 роки тому +25

    LMAO an ActMan tweet in an SFO video, my life is complete

    • @iamwrong2239
      @iamwrong2239 2 роки тому

      Just seen that, holy fuck I didn't think he wouldn't forget he used to be edgy. I guess that's what happens when you want to join in with the left

    • @DreadPirateRoberts121
      @DreadPirateRoberts121 2 роки тому

      @@iamwrong2239 man’s fine, still calls out woke scolds, dev is just too autistic to realize that most of the shit he posts on twitter shouldn’t be taken seriously

  • @TheLovelyVocal
    @TheLovelyVocal 2 роки тому +21

    Theres a term for this gentleman, and its "dangerously based"
    I look forward to seeing the next generation get edgier

  • @ByutifulDreamer
    @ByutifulDreamer 2 роки тому +34

    If he practices enough, maybe Speed's trash-talk will be on LTG's level one day.
    I'm looking forward to the plethora of BBC Pipin' Yo Mom fantasies and going on entire tirades about someone's life based solely on the character they choose. If he's REALLY good, maybe he'll have entire soundboards dedicated to him!

    • @jedikye
      @jedikye 2 роки тому

      he does have the autistic potential for it

  • @Arassar
    @Arassar 2 роки тому +69

    Dude, maybe he doesn't deserve to be BANNED, but he deserves a timeout at least. His parents would ground him for a good long while if he acted this way in front of them.

    • @ImCurrentlyNaked
      @ImCurrentlyNaked 2 роки тому +10

      I wonder if the woman who perma-banned him from all the company's games also banned the team mates who were making the racist jokes towards him. (not that I care, but I just want to see equal outrage and punishment, and not this performative rubbish they're doing)

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому +3

      You assume they didn't teach him to act that way. I know many parents who put this, "You gotta be hard, you gotta be tough, you gotta be intimidating" mindset into kids heads. I've had to deal with a few punks who thought they were "hard" that folded like a cheap suit when it came time to throw down.

    • @th232r6
      @th232r6 2 роки тому +2

      parents? you think he live at home with mom and dad?

    • @magmaslasher7604
      @magmaslasher7604 2 роки тому +2

      @@th232r6 He's 17.

    • @zenou-samaIV
      @zenou-samaIV 2 роки тому

      Go to sleep snowflake.

  • @jamesstaggs4160
    @jamesstaggs4160 2 роки тому +28

    I'm firmly in the free speech camp and have always been. I was on the left when the moralizing evangelical Christian right was the center of power for the right, but I've also always spoken against hateful attitudes no matter who they were leveled at and who was engaged in them. When people act like that and nobody checks them for it then they're more likely to continue the behavior and to even ramp it up farther since if that amount got them what they were after then more will always be better.
    I played competitive sports from the age of six up until I was twenty-two, football, wrestling and track. I joined the Army for four years after that. Some time after I got out I began doing some really stupid shit and wound up spending seven years in prison (I was born in 77 so I have had time to fit all that in). So I've been in plenty of high pressure, highly competitive environments. One thing I've always been taught and have learned from all that is that you always respect your opponent. If you lose you take your lumps and if you win you extend a hand to whoever you just beat. That's true even in prison, really especially in prison. You talk funky to someone and you're liable to be lit up if you're lucky, much worse if you're not. Even when it comes to a physical confrontation in there if you lose and keep your mouth shut about it you get your respect. Alot or blood gets shed over how that kid was acting in there. If you're playing spades or dominoes or whatever trash talking is part of it, but it's good natured. If you start trying to belittle anyone or dominate them or say certain words (bitch is maybe the biggest one, if you get called a bitch you better immediate hit them or tell them to "fall in", meaning let's go in the cell where there aren't any cameras so we can settle this) then you've crossed the line and there's gonna be consequences. Oh and of course I grew up with a controller in my hand all the way from an Atari 2600 till today, so I certainly don't think the game was to blame at all.
    So to wrap up yet another long ass comment, the kid was way out of line. You should never speak to anyone like that. Again, I don't think he should have been banned but neither do I think everyone should have just said "Oh well. That's part of the game right? Boys will be boys!" His choice of words is much less important than the emotion behind those words and his intent with them. While what he did has nowhere near the impact it's not any different from lefties throwing hate at "Nazi fascists", the way some people used to speak to gay people, or how a klansman may have spoken to a black man in the 1950s. Once you start dehumanizing another and holding yourself up as superior by your nature you're wrong. It doesn't matter about which words are used, what the races and genders of those involved may be or the environment and reason why any of it took place, you should always give every human a base amount of respect. I'll still say he shouldn't have been banned not should anyone be kept from speaking their mind, but the kid wasn't giving that respect and he should have been called out on it.

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому

      In the words of the Clash "he who f*cks nuns, will later join the church"

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 2 роки тому +46

    I didn't expect IshowSpeed to get into this situation. It's hilarious to say the least

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому

      I did. Leftists have been prodding at him over the last year seeing what they can get to stick.

  • @scurvydog20
    @scurvydog20 2 роки тому +38

    Yes being gay and trans is immutable... that's why we've seen a several hundred times increase in recent years. It's totally not a social contagion 🙄

    • @gnerkus
      @gnerkus 2 роки тому +8

      It's something in the water that also affects frogs.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 2 роки тому +1

      Leftists changed the definition. Call Dev stubborn.

  • @ryansmith841
    @ryansmith841 2 роки тому +52

    I don’t dislike banter, I was definitely a shit talker on mic when I was 17, but I was never as obnoxious as this shit. Tbh I think people have a point when they’re saying he needs help, he clearly has an anger issue. He shouldn’t be throwing a hissy fit, it’s pathetic

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому +7

      Either anger, ego, or both. It's also much easier to blow your top when you're online and feel that you won't be immediately subjected to the consequences of being an insufferable shit.

    • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
      @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 2 роки тому

      to me he's just being a more foul mouthed early pewdiepie and markiplier

    • @northerntoe
      @northerntoe 2 роки тому +2

      @@bon7029 remember what happened to etika

    • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
      @KyriosHeptagrammaton 2 роки тому

      I don't think he should be banned, and that it's awful that he was, but given his immaturity at 17, not being able to be streamer might be the best thing that happens to him.

    • @vaguelymodest6239
      @vaguelymodest6239 2 роки тому

      Not to sound rude, but have people forgotten how “hood” people talk? Why was that leftoid so shocked by what that 17 year old was saying? Has he ever heard how ghetto people talked before?

  • @graye2799
    @graye2799 2 роки тому +13

    I think you misrepresented Actman at 6:12. He is not woke and wasn't going after him for saying gamer words or being vulgar, rather he was criticizing his general reaction. Im not saying he shouldnt trash talk, but If you are a streamer and make a outburst like that, don't expect people not to talk about it.

  • @MrJoeyWheeler
    @MrJoeyWheeler 2 роки тому +10

    Transgenderism is not an immutable characteristic. That's utterly disingenuous to compare it to being gay. Being dysphoric might be immutable, but that isn't the same thing (nor, in many cases, permanent).

  • @popopopoqwerty
    @popopopoqwerty 2 роки тому +25

    It's not even like they're gone soft, they're just want to regulate things now. Like in that old tale, one who kills the dragon becomes the dragon.

    • @Argonisgema
      @Argonisgema 2 роки тому +1

      that sounds like dragons dogma.

    • @popopopoqwerty
      @popopopoqwerty 2 роки тому

      @@Argonisgema Guess I need to give this game another go. When it released it looked like a lame Monster Hunter clone so I quickly lost interest.

    • @popopopoqwerty
      @popopopoqwerty 2 роки тому

      @@Argonisgema But I was referencing this old piece of animation.
      ua-cam.com/video/2w0_ct2aemU/v-deo.html

    • @Argonisgema
      @Argonisgema 2 роки тому

      @@popopopoqwerty Oh its nothing like monster hunter.

  • @nathanperquin9910
    @nathanperquin9910 2 роки тому +38

    sorry but i disagree on this, thats just shit behaviour, I too was a kid and played online, but that still is not excuse to just being downright irrational. Mind you i was not on xbox. and mostly played single player games. but the times i did find myself in multiplayer people making themselves a loud nuisance are not appreciated, if you are gonna shit talk at least make it a single hard hitting clever jab, Not an incessant stream of vocal diarrhea

    • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
      @KyriosHeptagrammaton 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, the "black people can't heal" was funny. Stated matter of fact, only repeated to make sure he heard it, that's it. If he was bantering it should have been "We're losing, who let the female on our team?" or something like that. Not incoherent repetitive ranting.

    • @zombiegamer123
      @zombiegamer123 2 роки тому

      Shit talking is always irrational and shitty behavior. Its kind of silly to think you can’t trash talk unless you have the right thing to say. I mean is there a cooldown to when you can say the next quip? And what if everyone is having a good time listening to vocal diarrhea? No need to ruin everyone else’s fun because you’re annoyed. Just put that shit on mute and move along.

    • @nathanperquin9910
      @nathanperquin9910 2 роки тому +6

      @@zombiegamer123 well excuse me for having standards i suppose.

    • @jay6113
      @jay6113 2 роки тому

      @@nathanperquin9910 To be fair you are critiquing internet smack-talk, it's not exactly George Carlin's 7 words.

  • @agnesroman9326
    @agnesroman9326 2 роки тому +27

    They will always remind me of "the church ladies", who always are salty about everything.

    • @agnesroman9326
      @agnesroman9326 2 роки тому +2

      @@CROSSFADE69 Indeed.😎🥃 They are never grateful or satisfied. I seen a gravestone saying here lays so and so "who was never satisfied."

  • @theimmortal4718
    @theimmortal4718 2 роки тому +9

    It's always boomers, millennials, and zoomers.
    Gen X over here just watching

  • @UnderratedBurnyBadger
    @UnderratedBurnyBadger 2 роки тому +11

    "Get off the game and do your husband's dishes, bitch!"
    I ain't even mad. I can't stop laughing at how few fucks he gives. XD

    • @ohla300
      @ohla300 2 роки тому

      😂😂💗
      I'm not mad either. I just finished dishes and my hubby's been playing video games on twitch. 😛 It's real life and some ppl get butt hurt by it. That's there problem. 💪💪💪

  • @Grochlink
    @Grochlink 2 роки тому +5

    This is not indicative of a generation. It's indicative of a certain culture.

  • @RAMZAVFX
    @RAMZAVFX 2 роки тому +3

    War, war never changes...

  • @zyxluz4645
    @zyxluz4645 2 роки тому +11

    The Act Man, dev? A woke scold? Really?

    • @ShortFatOtaku
      @ShortFatOtaku  2 роки тому +1

      with that tweet? fuck yes lol

    • @zyxluz4645
      @zyxluz4645 2 роки тому

      @@ShortFatOtaku it's twitter dude it brings out the worst of us.

    • @eldestdragon5766
      @eldestdragon5766 2 роки тому +3

      @@ShortFatOtaku It was a stupid tweet, but a single tweet shouldn’t make someone a woke scold Dev. ActMan’s previous tweets and videos show that he definitely isn’t.
      From what I gather that was probably him talking about how over the top the mans outburst was. I am not offended by what the streamer said, and I definitely agree with the statement that he needs some help. Getting that tilted over a game definitely isn’t healthy.
      There is banter, and then there is having a meltdown. Both can be funny, but the latter can be something worth criticizing. Dude definitely shouldn’t be banned though.

    • @bellsknell3297
      @bellsknell3297 2 роки тому +6

      @@ShortFatOtaku
      >Hates that progs will use a single tweet to determine if someone is a fascist even if every other tweet is to the contrary
      >Uses a single tweet to claim that Act Man is a wokescold despite every other tweet to the contrary
      What's that quote about he who fights monsters? I'm not a prog by any means, but how can you not see the hypocrisy?

  • @unclegoose3864
    @unclegoose3864 2 роки тому +13

    In retrospect, the religious right was... ironically right about all the things they cried about.

    • @vaughnhelthira1704
      @vaughnhelthira1704 2 роки тому +1

      Fair Enough 🤔

    • @sparaxisblanc2473
      @sparaxisblanc2473 2 роки тому +8

      As a Christian, I'm not really happy about it. I'd rather be taken for a complete idiot than live with the knowledge that there's a bunch of... predators trying to normalize their behavior.

    • @dibberz-v1z
      @dibberz-v1z 2 роки тому

      not all the things, but some

  • @memnarch129
    @memnarch129 2 роки тому +17

    Dev. There was shit/trash talking for sure. But this guy isnt doing that. He DOES have some serious issues. I grew up in that era, couple years older than you, and while there was trash talk it was never THIS fucking bad. Also some of what you call "woke scolding" isnt that. Its people who actually do realize their behavior WAS out of line and that it is a bad thing and shouldnt continue. For me that realization is its JUST a game. What that means is getting worked up like Show did is a very VERY bad thing for him and everyone else. Why do you think that CoD/WoW/Apex/etc get the stigmas of a hostile matchmaking environment?? Cause its not just the old school you did good talk a little shit, its you have bigger issues and bring them into a game and basically snap. If Show and the others had been in the same room I guarantee fists would of been thrown. And THAT is why this is out of line.

    • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
      @KyriosHeptagrammaton 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly right. Thankfully most of the comments seem to get that. The video's thesis is still solid, but the example is terrible.

  • @GundamChief
    @GundamChief 2 роки тому +11

    Never really did the "banter" while playing COD at the time. Instead I just target that guy specifically when on the opposite team. It was always fun killing them over and over, and when the game was over, hearing them scream at you, and then cut them off while mid-rant by leaving the lobby XD

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому +1

      Been there, done that when playing Team Fortress 2. Always hilarious, especially when they're trying to play a Sniper and I would just wreck them over and over again. Listening to their pitch get higher and higher and their words getting more heated. What's even BETTER is when you get them to say something so bad the admin on the server kicks or bans them for a while.

    • @harleymitchelly5542
      @harleymitchelly5542 2 роки тому

      And that is what you do when you have a squeaker in chat throwing a fit. Pwn his ass and mine salt.

  • @Arassar
    @Arassar 2 роки тому +13

    Man, I might be slightly too old because I was in college by the time Xbox Live was big, but even back then I thought all these kids were freaking lunatics. I always disabled voice chat, and still do to this day.

    • @don2nd650
      @don2nd650 2 роки тому +1

      Voice chat is the best dude

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому

      I occasional play Sea of Thieves and if their voice is too high tone, I leave. I'm not listening to that shit when another ship shows up and they're trying to screech orders and insults at the same time.

  • @otaviolobo7989
    @otaviolobo7989 2 роки тому +21

    not gonna lie, I've never seen this level of banter ten years ago when playing CS 1.6, battlefield or Call of Duty. Maybe League of Legends but even then, it was milder than this... To think this is the normal now actually scares me... like, I know you are a kid and is expected to be immature and all but this burst of words... It really leaves an impression that he believes it.

    • @legoeasycompany
      @legoeasycompany 2 роки тому +4

      Bruh if you think that's anything special I doubt you ever experienced xbox live Modern Warfare 2 voice chat. Every 3 word was a slur and no one had an issue, idk how people went from that to thinking this is an issue?

    • @tonybridges9026
      @tonybridges9026 2 роки тому +2

      If you really think that's the worse somebody can say, you really haven't been on the internet too long my guy. This is mild compared to most things really

    • @Bronimin
      @Bronimin 2 роки тому

      sounds exactly like how kids argued with each other back in my school, its just banter bro

    • @Noman1000
      @Noman1000 2 роки тому

      Well if you played only against bots you wouldn't ever run into this online so that's a possible theory.

    • @tonybridges9026
      @tonybridges9026 2 роки тому

      @@Bronimin that's exactly what it sound like. When you couldnt come up with a good comeback as a kid so you resort to calling them the wildest stuff you could think of. Its literally is the most childish stuff you could ever hear.

  • @MemorycardII
    @MemorycardII 2 роки тому +5

    That young man needs to put the controller down and go do something with his father. That behavior is not normal but let me not be attacked by gamers.

  • @user-od8yh8xs9u
    @user-od8yh8xs9u 2 роки тому +16

    bro. you dont really think thats just "trash talk". hes acting unhinged. if i saw my kids behave like that there would never be another video game in my house. and that was the weakest "example" of him "dealing with racism" you could have found. youre way off on this one.

    • @wilsonsanabia4259
      @wilsonsanabia4259 2 роки тому +5

      You have become too sanitized, we used to say way worse shit over the internet, he seems alright to me

    • @bernardotorres5274
      @bernardotorres5274 2 роки тому

      Agree to a point.
      Trash talk is going to happen, no matter what because videogames are highly competitive and create a high stress environment thus stuff like this spurt out, because people are taught this behavior is bad that is why it is used, to hurt other people. You even see this behavior during traffic.
      However I agree that he choose poor examples of him dealing with racism.

    • @bellsknell3297
      @bellsknell3297 2 роки тому

      @@wilsonsanabia4259 Read the comment again dumbass. Not referring to his words, but the fucking meltdown that Speed had. And if you have seen anything involving Speed, and if he's not acting, then that dude legits needs help.

  • @DevonBagley
    @DevonBagley 2 роки тому +3

    Idk. Strange take. Legitimately this behavior was disgusting then, and it still is now. People can act how they want, and say what they want, but I have zero respect for people who act that way.

  • @ShmooZeroOmega
    @ShmooZeroOmega 2 роки тому +6

    Man, this guy was obnoxious as fuck. Like, I get your point and the public shaming spectacle is cringe, but I would probably have reported some tool was was screaming his head off at me in a game.

  • @TheSleepingSeer
    @TheSleepingSeer 2 роки тому +33

    8:50 I didn't know progressives could say "Christ" without burning their tongue

    • @twiggledy5547
      @twiggledy5547 2 роки тому +5

      Ah they think ironically using "my brother in Christ" is meaningless

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 2 роки тому +1

      You just popped into my head a conspiracy movie idea - the power of Christ being absolute turns out to be the Devil's lie; he is actually God's dark equal and the Bible used to say so until he rewrote it.
      That would explain demons invoking His name with spite without effort.

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 2 роки тому +5

    1:46 my problem is that those arent immutable. No scientific evidence for any of that being innate or immutable. And I think a lot of problems come from claiming it is. Namely claiming that means children should be exposed to it.

  • @dragonandavatarfan8865
    @dragonandavatarfan8865 2 роки тому +6

    Bruh Dev wth, you telling me you couldn't do the bare minimum research on The Act Man before lumping him with the progs?? One quick look at his channel will show you that he already has a bunch of anti-sjw videos, his tweet was also more sarcastic about that black kid just spearging out instead of an actual serious criticism. He's pretty much the definition of the cool dude bro gaming channel who's against wokeness and censorship in gaming without ever going full political becuz politics is mega gay.

  • @30m3
    @30m3 2 роки тому +8

    I dunno Dev, I'm irish and not a nice person and even my banter isn't that extreme. Banter is humourous, this wasn't.

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ 2 роки тому +67

    Say this to Mauler as written, Dev:
    “Dooween hovee coffee”
    Keep calling microwaves “Pop-dee-pings” as well. Like if you need to eat say you’re going to “pop-dee-ping” something.
    Don’t ask questions, he’ll love you forever.

    • @sdfabctr
      @sdfabctr 2 роки тому +7

      this is true. We are all very autistic in the toxic brood lol

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому

      Do it!

  • @jubjubfriend64
    @jubjubfriend64 2 роки тому +6

    I barely know your channel, but when I watched that clip of that raging kid, I certainly didn't feel outraged by the stuff he was saying since it's just classic young kid rage. But what I am shocked at is you guys calling what this kid was doing as 'banter' or 'trashtalking', because what he was doing was just an utterly pathetic display anger and unapproachability. Are you guys seriously defending acting this way? It's a shame kids are so absorbed in games that they let themselves get this worked up (I went through this phase once too), just disgusting human behaviour... Thinking this is 'banter' means you probably don't know how real life interactions work, only gaming lobbies ones.

    • @AlphaWolfShade
      @AlphaWolfShade 2 роки тому +1

      It's absolutely pathetic and that's what makes it hilarious. The only people who look at this in shock are people who have never been exposed to these people. Like a kid that runs, trips, falls and scrapes their knee. They don't know how to react to the negative incident, so it just becomes the worse thing ever for a while. Meanwhile, all of the people who have fallen, scraped their knees more than once have become accustomed to it and acknowledge that it isn't _that_ bad.
      People just don't know how to react to these people anymore.

    • @ShortFatOtaku
      @ShortFatOtaku  2 роки тому +4

      let me put it this way: i don't think it's necessarily good but i don't think it's banworthy.

    • @jubjubfriend64
      @jubjubfriend64 2 роки тому

      @@ShortFatOtaku Yeah okay, and I take back my last sentence, I was just triggered.

  • @intigeral727
    @intigeral727 2 роки тому +5

    Ah, 2022, when weakness is a strength, solipsism is a virtue, and petulance is a way-of-life.

  • @somerandomdude343
    @somerandomdude343 2 роки тому +11

    Just mute them. Done lol. You don't need to get them help just ignore them if you don't want to hear it. Even when i was 17 i muted people that were talking shit if i didn't want to deal with it. Shit is to funny

  • @RazzleTheRed1
    @RazzleTheRed1 2 роки тому +8

    This streamer was acting like an idiot, he was making a complete fool of himself for everyone to see and I have no interest in ever watching a person like that.... But no he absolutely should not be banned for it

  • @maxieprimo2758
    @maxieprimo2758 2 роки тому +49

    Ishowspeed is just another nothing content creator who yells a lot and makes stupid faces. My younger brother of eleven found him and tries to emulate it. Like yeah, "everyone used to act like this" is BS. I didn't, and ishowspeed's entire channel is just... ew. The people moralizing about him are stupid, but his channel is garbage that I actively regret letting younger kids see.

    • @timon6427
      @timon6427 2 роки тому +4

      Completely with you. I agree that framing this as fashism is such an overstatement. But you can trash talk and be provocative in online games without acting like ishowspeed does. Him getting banned is absolutely legit.

    • @VVabsa
      @VVabsa 2 роки тому

      There's still the ability to slap the shit out of your bro for it.

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому

      Same. I used to host and attend LAN parties and would occasionally get a punk little shithead like this who would try to intimidate people or other be a shithead. A few of them would even refuse to leave when told to leave. We may be a room full of nerds, but you're outnumbered somewhere between 15-31 to 1 and you WILL leave, either on your own feet with your equipment in your hand, or by being thrown out of the front door followed by your equipment.
      Only one person ever came back with less than apologetic intentions, he came back with a baseball bat, smashed the mail box, then started pounding on the front door, thinking that baseball bat would give him an edge. He stopped REAL fast when he was staring down the barrel of a 12 gauge double barreled shotgun.
      To say the least, he wasn't ever allowed to come back to a game. Usually if someone got out of line and apologized, they would be forgiven a time or two and often enough even allowed to remain at the party.

    • @xx_cloud_xx5055
      @xx_cloud_xx5055 2 роки тому +9

      So early pewds and markiplier? Lol
      They were nothing creators when they first started. Sure this kids' content isn't exactly quality but who's to say he can't evolve past that like they did.

    • @maxieprimo2758
      @maxieprimo2758 2 роки тому +9

      @@xx_cloud_xx5055 Hate to break it to you, but I don't like it when other people do it either. I have zero interest in tolerating annoying, loud screaming and acting like a toddler so I can watch them evolve and grow and burst from their chrysalis into a beautiful butterfly. Last I checked, early Markiplier wasn't the equivalent of a decibel-boosted react video.

  • @beachwind7274
    @beachwind7274 2 роки тому +30

    The guy at 6:12 isn’t a wokescold though, he’s made fairly recent videos detesting SJWs in video games and even did a talk with Gothix of all people. He’s probably one of the most notable gaming related UA-camrs right now who are actively anti-woke.

    • @flamestoyershadowkill6400
      @flamestoyershadowkill6400 2 роки тому +13

      he just badly worded the tweet. should have said that his banter was to cleshey or that he is uncreative.

    • @FireTalon24
      @FireTalon24 2 роки тому +2

      Wasn't Act Man the guy who did that sponsored New World video and sang it's praises? Didn't he not really warn that it was a sponsored video too? It's been a while so I don't remember specifics but that steered me away from him.

    • @bellsknell3297
      @bellsknell3297 2 роки тому +9

      Honestly, I'm noticing more and more than Dev doesn't really seem to care. Like, if you just looked at ActMan's stuff for 5 fucking minutes you would understand that he's not a wokescold and it making fun of Speed for having a meltdown. And you can't tell me that Dev didn't when he went through ActMan's twitter feed and would have seen him calling out woke stuff. Getting sick of Dev's shit.

    • @flamestoyershadowkill6400
      @flamestoyershadowkill6400 2 роки тому

      @@bellsknell3297 dev should try shifting away from the political stuff if that is the case

    • @FireTalon24
      @FireTalon24 2 роки тому

      @@GK-mr9ko From what I remember, the whole controversy was because he lavished it with praise while not mentioning anything about the bugs.
      If you're looking for a hilarious timeline of the bugs check out Josh Strife Hayes video on it. Highly recommend.

  • @J0hnzie
    @J0hnzie 2 роки тому +10

    Honestly, I gotta hard disagree on this one. Don't get me wrong, it's *funny* to watch, but it's so wildly uncivilized to the point of insanity, and I don't think we should tolerate that behavior in a civil space. It also doesn't exactly do much to help the image of young black men when one of the most famous personalities of that group right now, is frothing at the mouth at even the slightest point of contention.

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ 2 роки тому +11

    4:02
    Wow. Ruby Rhod really found it difficult to find work after that opera singer incident huh?
    That was some of the funniest things I’ve ever heard though. The only place you can hear that trash talk are old Quake3 and UT servers. Sigh.

  • @DaBestEmperor
    @DaBestEmperor 2 роки тому +3

    As a young 21 year old, it hasn't been too long since I've been an immature teenage gamer. And my god is that guy annoying as hell. I don't know what you were like at that age Dev but in what world is that simply having "banter". Maybe its due to the games I typically play, but whenever our group of friends came across someone like that they were always seen as an immature, low iq idiot. I can't and never have been able too stand people who act like that. Its always annoyed the shit out of me.

    • @DaBestEmperor
      @DaBestEmperor 2 роки тому

      Also, not sure of the relevance or validity but I felt I should mention it. Many of the people I knew from High School that acted like this were not the kind of people who got along well with society or the law. Many of them with little to no prospects and ended up dropping out of school. It is not a reflection of a healthy character.

  • @duskseraph3902
    @duskseraph3902 2 роки тому +1

    Man I'm not even mad he said it. I'm just mad he called his team trash then threw.

  • @caiobotelho8528
    @caiobotelho8528 2 роки тому +11

    i feel very divided in this because:
    1) "its banter" yeah, and proper socialization includes dealing with said banter (with repression or equal/even more banter), and he should be scolded for this (in some way, shape or form). Also, its not "just banter", hes screaming for minutes straight. If he'd scream like that in person he would be beat up.
    but!....
    2) I'm 100% sure ppl are bandwagoning on him not for "proper socialization", but rather, to feel good and circle jerk, which is fucking pathetic.

    • @AlphaWolfShade
      @AlphaWolfShade 2 роки тому

      He's not in prison, he's in an online video game lobby. Competitive multiplayer lobbies have been like this almost since their inception. Channels rose and fell from trashing these kind of people. To pretend as if this is some rare sighting and not just an uncommon occurrence is absurd. The only people who see this and clutch pearls are people who never were exposed to this or people trying to repent and act as puritans.
      That doesn't mean this attitude is a good one to have nor does that mean its an enjoyable experience. It literally means its just random words from a stranger on the net who doesn't know you and is taking a game too seriously. *Mock them.*

  • @Unknown.NotRegistered
    @Unknown.NotRegistered 2 роки тому +25

    This was hilarious to listen to.
    Dear God, I needed this today.

  • @freedomandguns3231
    @freedomandguns3231 2 роки тому +19

    Lmao, Boomers and Millenials are equal in things like entitlement.....
    Its true

    • @OmegaF77
      @OmegaF77 2 роки тому +4

      Literally everyone in every generation feels entitled to something.

    • @Zayindjejfj
      @Zayindjejfj 2 роки тому +5

      It's a human flaw. Not a generational trait.

  • @skylex157
    @skylex157 2 роки тому +5

    while i agree that banter and making others mad to gain advantage is important, i do think it is only acceptable if it is in return, speed started called people monkeys and screamed about being talked to by a girl in a videogame, this is not a healthy attitude for a game and he should get timeouted for doing so, because if it was me playing that game and have a 17 years old idiot screaming at me, i would totally report his ass and expect him to be punished for it
    with that said, if the annoyance is more on the level of spamming M7 on league or teabaging, then yeah, it should not be punished at all

    • @Fuzzycat16
      @Fuzzycat16 2 роки тому

      he could do all that without screeching and it would be considered banter. But since he's screeching like a monkey it isn't.

    • @skylex157
      @skylex157 2 роки тому +4

      @@Fuzzycat16 exactly, at least keep it classy, the man is having a tantrum more than talking shit (also, he is doing it to his teammates, which increases the negativity overall)

  • @Bobby_Corwen
    @Bobby_Corwen 2 роки тому +16

    I dunno Dev I'm younger than you, played tons of video games, and throughout my childhood. I was never *this* toxic, and I was even considered to be an aggressive cynical little shit. It was only really a specific group of people that acted like this, and the rest of us all thought they were stupid and childish. I think you might be romanticizing the past a little here.

    • @KyriosHeptagrammaton
      @KyriosHeptagrammaton 2 роки тому +10

      This reminds me of how the left will defend "their guy" because he's also on the left, no matter how insane he is. Banter is fine, getting angry over a game is not.

    • @byletheisner5006
      @byletheisner5006 2 роки тому +5

      @@KyriosHeptagrammaton Yeah, this is a slightly worrisome behaviour, and I mean the habit of defending someone in virtue of him being opposed to your opposition. I can not understand how someone could think his behaviour should be tolerated.

    • @lordchungus1552
      @lordchungus1552 2 роки тому

      @@KyriosHeptagrammaton cry about it

  • @darkman4747
    @darkman4747 2 роки тому +2

    No I think theres a difference between Banter and being genuinely annoying.

  • @napiccirella5230
    @napiccirella5230 2 роки тому +37

    I mean sure, the point that the wokescolds were just as bad as the streamer is a good one. I also think that voice-breaking screaming slurs into the mic publicly is something that kids do, and that they should be shamed. It being banter doesn't convince me that he shouldn't get made fun of for being a bad person.

    • @bon7029
      @bon7029 2 роки тому

      There's shit talk, then there's being a piece of shit that's talking. This kid went well over that line.

    • @harleymitchelly5542
      @harleymitchelly5542 2 роки тому +1

      Sure. Just call him a little bitch though and headshot his ass. Calling him racist just gives his stupid an excuse.

    • @dannykeuerleber7419
      @dannykeuerleber7419 2 роки тому +5

      Did you miss the part where they banned him from the game, its not shaming they want to destroy him and feel good while doing it.

    • @rokor3578
      @rokor3578 2 роки тому

      lmao cry harder

    • @dannykeuerleber7419
      @dannykeuerleber7419 2 роки тому +2

      @@rokor3578 I'm sorry that I apply the principles I live by equally, banning people for what they say and not what they do is bad.

  • @kylelacey1212
    @kylelacey1212 2 роки тому +2

    Pretty sure Speed's entire gimmick is acting like a crazy angry person but I don't think it's much more than an act tbh. That said it's hilarious that woman's name was "npcSara". That's a little too fitting.

  • @orenmontgomery8250
    @orenmontgomery8250 2 роки тому +10

    0:58
    Video starts

    • @wuwei473
      @wuwei473 2 роки тому

      Ty

    • @DevilSlayr
      @DevilSlayr 2 роки тому

      Actually it starts at 0:00. Easy mistake tho :)

    • @orenmontgomery8250
      @orenmontgomery8250 2 роки тому

      @@DevilSlayr oh gosh, thanks. My mistake. 😅

  • @Logan55689
    @Logan55689 2 роки тому +2

    I don't really care that he got banned from the game for throwing a fit. That's what the "report" and "mute" features are for. If he keeps whining and bitching, then people are going to report him. I don't see any value lost.

  • @frostmagemarii
    @frostmagemarii 2 роки тому +6

    I don't really hold the stuff he said against him; but i will hold the general way he ranted against him. Trash talk is good on the whole, but there does come a point where it turns from trash talk and into a person acting like an idiot and asshole; mostly due to the length and pitch of his rants.
    IShowSpeed crossed that line for me; several times as you've shown clips.

  • @twiggledy5547
    @twiggledy5547 2 роки тому +2

    Cod trash talk was 10x more extreme than that

  • @MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI-1
    @MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI-1 2 роки тому +13

    It amazed me that the people most likely to be stricken with Peter Pan syndrome cannot recognize it in others

    • @phantom8926
      @phantom8926 2 роки тому +3

      Because then they'd have to own up to their own childish ways.

    • @TheGreenKnight500
      @TheGreenKnight500 2 роки тому +1

      I think it's projection rather than a lack of awareness. The fear of "being a baby" is very common in children and pretending to "be grown up" is a poor coping mechanism. The ability to have fun while also taking on responsibility is the sign of maturity, not developing a disgust for fun. That's just a way of projecting your own insecurity about your maturity.

  • @Omnifarious0
    @Omnifarious0 2 роки тому +2

    I hate trash talk, and I always have. It's why I don't play a lot of online games. I play only with friends I know in some other context.
    That being said, while I would like spaces where trash talk is unacceptable, I don't feel the need to impose those spaces on other people.

  • @SakraIgor0qNomoko
    @SakraIgor0qNomoko 2 роки тому +3

    Couple of different layers to this. First, all ranting like that is bad. Second, a large proportion of kids do it and grow out of it, so it's not as big a deal in general as when adults do it. Third, Riot games has community standards much different from COD, and no one would get away with that type of talk, even in text chat, 9 years ago, during early League of Legends (I joined in season 3).
    This goes doubly so for streamers with a sizable following. If you make it a habit of being toxic in a Riot game, even if you're nowhere close to a typical COD lobby back in the day, expect to get a ban, simple as. Permabans are a little unusual, unless you're a streamer.

  • @pasqualecurry7773
    @pasqualecurry7773 2 роки тому +47

    Mauler is literally the reason I rarely let 6 months pass wothout replaying SOMA and Amnesia: TDD

  • @f145hr3831jr
    @f145hr3831jr 2 роки тому +4

    I'm glad that I evoled in reverse to those twats: I was the most thin-skinned kid/teenager ever and couldn't appreciate competitive hobbies because of it, and I learned to get over it over time and actually enjoy competition as an adult.

  • @SomeRandomGoo
    @SomeRandomGoo 2 роки тому +1

    That wasn't trash talking that was raging which is more annoying, cringe, and kind of funny if anything. The proper response to is laugh and make fun of their raging or mute them, not ban them or scold them.

  • @vane909090
    @vane909090 2 роки тому +9

    Well, I don't know if it's banter lol. He took it a bit too far. Screaming from the top of your lungs sexist and racial slurs is not how I remember banter from my youth, it's more like unbridled nerd rage imo. Also imagine if he was a white guy dropping that n-word carpet bomb. But that being said, I don't think this is a big deal.

  • @AspiringDevil
    @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому +2

    I do feel the need to point this out. Since it seems to be a common point in the comments.
    Speed is a troll. A known troll. He has commentary videos critiquing his trolling and documenting his previous cancelations. He farms outrage until he's banned and moves on to another twitch community.
    I find him painfully unfunny but it is well known he's not serious and trying to shock people so debating whether or not his trash talk is good banter is irrelevant. It's not meant to be legitimate banter.
    Thankfully this topic doesn't henge on Speed but instead the leftists reaction to him, unlike when DJ Cum Cum was in one of Dev's older videos and undermined his point a little bit.
    Still I just as feel it's important to allow Speed to be unfunny, but I will not stop people from making fun of him or assuming he's serious. That is the cost of being a deep troll, people will assume your serious.
    At least DJ Cum Cum came out and acknowledged the troll after he got on CNN and Fox News 🤣
    Guys like Speed bounce between communities because the gag can't work if people remember him or know of him.
    This is more a reaction to the disscusions in the comments because I have don't anything to add to Dev's excellent video.

  • @Spartan73799
    @Spartan73799 2 роки тому +3

    Your Take on The Act man shows you didn't bother to do any research. A lot of his content aligns with your own, his latest video was calling out people criticizing Elden Ring without knowing how to play the game or even know what they are talking about.

  • @spinosaurusstriker
    @spinosaurusstriker 2 роки тому +2

    I agree with your point that banning him was unnecesary, but the act man isn't woke, he called out rightfully a squizo moment.

  • @retrozombie29
    @retrozombie29 2 роки тому +11

    Not so sure this falls under "just bants bro" rather than a petulant child screaming down their microphone, the latter of which I've seen many (and might I add lesser) instances of be kicked and banned from many a server. The only difference now is the pervasiveness of streaming... and in this casethe fact that the moron was streaming himself. Dude had it coming.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 2 роки тому

      The only petulant children were the ones who banned him. I'd school him for sure... with dry wit, not a power trip.
      He's now a hero and a martyr rather than a yippy idiot chihuahua.

    • @davidsmolen2850
      @davidsmolen2850 2 роки тому +1

      100% agree.