How Tyler, The Creator Solved the School Shooting Epidemic
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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In 2012, Tyler The Creator was blasted online (what else is new?) regarding an RIP tweet to the Columbine School Massacre shooters. He then wrote the song "Pigs" released two years later in his sophomore album. The song gives intriguing and potent insight into the epidemic in and of itself, and what we can do on an individual level to help contribute to positive change.
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Around the last sentiment you gave felt like a kind of dismissal of guns in the problems of school shootings, while i do agree that people and how they are treated are a root to the problem that surrounds school shootings and we should be taking with more care like with the examples you gave at the end to help them, however you have to acknowledge that guns are another root of the issue because without them then there would be no such thing as school shootings. I think while we should look towards a way on figuring out what drives people to do them and ways to prevent someone from falling down that path, we shouldn't dismiss the accessibility of guns and the use of them to commit the act of school shootings.
I’m getting a lot of comments like this, so this is what I’ll say: I was dismissive (I think that was astutely described as for how I wanted to come off there) not because I don’t think action via gun laws could be productive - but because I think the debate surrounding school shootings gets funneled into a discussion about guns because it keeps things political. The polarized culture of the United States has gone away from using politics as a means of helping people and turned it into a way to be right and superior. This is an outdated, unproductive, and destructive mindset. So, when I am trying to turn heads away from that conversation, it is not to say I don’t believe a conversation there COULD create change, but because I think the debate in and of itself is not rooted in creating a better life for others (like the one Tyler wants to start), but is about asserting X and Y’s dominant opinion over the inferior (from their perspective) A and B. I really appreciate you guys thinking about this stuff critically and asking about it, and that is my perspective!
I understand what you mean. You could say Tyler the Creators thoughts on School shootings.
Naw, it got me to click and old Tyler the creator drew me in because the somewhat dark themes and lyrics. Keep the name
so if guns have always been in America how come school shootings is more of a recent problem?
@@JacksonsMusicPalate I am awestruck that people on the internet are being respectful and considerate about political issues. I think this speaks to your carefulness about the topic and the effort you put in to cultivate this subject. 👏
Pigs is such an underrated song, it's cool to see people talk about it
The second song i heard from Tyler, i will never forget that day
Do you know what order I should listen to the Wolf trilogy in?
@@randomweeb2809 Bastard, Wolf, Goblin
@@ApollyonMathyah bastard goblin wolf and Also wolf (2010) just for fun
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this is a crazy title
the thing i hate about sensitive topics like this, is if you dont 110% agree with the majority and be like yeah this is awful they are awful no need to look deeper into it, then people just talk shit and act like youre as bad as the thing it self.
Agreed, thanks for bringing that to light. It is important we continue to push the envelope on what is expected of someone when they contribute to conversations like this! The goal should never be to be right or agreed with, but to understand deeply and continue learning :)
@@JacksonsMusicPalategood video bro! Keep up the great content!
YES.
People don't want to take the time to understand other people's perspectives. You can't change that in some people. It's best to just ignore them
@@Teimo yeah
Tyler never “glorified” rape. He talked about a subject that most people don’t want to talk about because they’re scared to even bring it up. He was discussing intrusive thoughts via use of a character he created for those older albums, an alternate, darker version of himself that almost everyone has inside of us to a degree, that we don’t allow to take control. He’s allowing emotions and frustrations buried in his unconscious flow out into the music. It’s reflective of the state of his life and his emotions at the time.
say it again louder for the people in the back ‼‼‼‼
was gonna say, the people who do commit awful acts like that are the people who have no where to express these fucked up thoughts or feelings and eventually just go off the deep end because they just feel that ostracized by society that at that point the laws of society mean NOTHING to them
@@yeahright3901 that kinda makes it sound like you think tyler woulda been a rapist had he not made music, youre also just oversimplifying why rapists rape
@@drakebell5649 ...? yeah no shit people do weird shit and things in general for specific reasons. The reason why people lash out is because they have no where to self express themselves.
Yes tyler had the capacity to be a rapist, literally EVERYONE does. Tyler was in a shitty mindset while he was making these tracks but the beauty is he self expressed himself so he at least felt okay with being himself and being a part of society.
Obviously not everyone will become a rapist or whatever but not self expressing these fucked up thoughts CAN lead you down a shitty path depending on your lifestyle. You were not listening to what I was saying lmao
as someone with a disorder that revolves all around intrusive thoughts, Intrusive thoughts aren’t thoughts you actually want to do they’re called intrusive for a reason. They’re never something you want to do and it shouldn’t be seen as a darker side of ourselves everyone has inside Bc they’re nothing more than just thoughts that come and go, I don’t disagree with your point but I just think this is something people need to really understand
People just don't know how to really truly love one another. I used to know a kid that was so lonely depressed and distressed that his favorite quote was " I hate life id rather fuckin di3,but not mine,I'd rather homicide over suicide" people strayed away from him because he's was weird..but he just needed a friend and some TLC tender love and care.
I sat with him and just struck a conversation and let him unload his mind. It wasn't easy for him to actually trust me,he thought I was just trying to bully him. But after some time he understood that I just wanted to be around him bc I cared about what he had to say. We discussed many things..music, sexuality,art,growth, lifecycles,science, religion..and a lot of Fight Club, the conversations I had with him are the most meaningful conversations I've ever had with anyone. He opened up about how he was planning to do something very bad at our neighborhood grocery store, but he's said "I was going to start gathering the materials for my plan but then you started harassing me with friendship and I stopped thinking about the whole grocery list and just wanted to listen to Nickelback with you bc no on else likes them anymore" I laughed bc I got nervous and didn't know what to say.
I guess my point is this kind of thinking can happen to ANYONE and we need to take a closer look at all tragedies not just suicid3..when someone goes on a riot spree we need to approach them with the same delicateness as other tragedies.
I like what you said about gun laws..you're absolutely right it's not about who has them. It's about our social climate and how people feel in society esp the young ones? Good video m8
its def about who has them as well, as theyre so easily accessible
@@xenoza02 that's almost exactly my point. Firearms ARE very easy to get (in the US). Legally and illegally. So it doesn't matter who is allowed to have one or not bc if someone wants them they will get them. The guns arent the problem. I've never seen a M16 just stand up on its own and start shooting itself. The problem is ignoring mental health issues as if they will go away if society turns a blind eye. Then we get people that are upset and feeling unseen. Those people get a hold of a gun from their local gas station and then.. tragedy strikes.
I know that ANYONE can commit a horrible mass murd3r, but I also think adolescence have a higher probability because of their developing bodies and psyche. Maybe a annual mental health eval for people 18 below would help recognize the troubled kids faster.
I used to befriend people like that until they'd start making comments like "what if i kidnapped your family and tortured them and you had to choose which one i shot and didn't shoot?" another one started calling me a bitch and a whore for rejecting them romantically , its not as easy as just befriend people especially if you're a girl.
@@elliotstname2709 that's a classic one, growing feelings and then acting like a maniac. I'm gonna say something really controversial but sometimes I'm not so sure if many mentally ill people even deserve to live, like a lot of them just go through life causing damage, hurting others and also themselves in the process. I've dealt with so many people like this, dated one and honestly? I've developed a small hate towards the mentally ill, they didn't choose to be that way but at this point I see them as a walking danger you know? It doesn't help that many of these problems are also genetic, so now they can spread their disease even further into the future and create more miserable people.
Really controversial take from my part but after constantly dealing with people like this, you kinda just want them to disappear and you start seeing how bad a lot of them really are unconsciously.
@@elliotstname2709 literally. it's always "they just need a friend :(" but becoming their friend is impossible. i had a classmate like that, we tried to befriend him but he harassed girls, he was literally a raging misogynist so naturally my girl friends and i would be scared of him. then he somehow found out i was scared of him and purposely started to talk to me about shooting up our school, mind you, i never did anything to him, i was just scared of him because of how he treated people and women and particular. he was also fixated on hitler and nazis, made racist jokes no one laughed at for obvious reasons and ended up befriended my friend's sexually abusive ex boyfriend. how are we expected to love these people when they act like that?
bruh his ass did NOT do that bruh 😭😭😭
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fr bro his first album is def the kind of shit the quiet kid listens to 💀💀💀
@@Greetings-r6fyou’re ignorant asf my guy
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO FR WHAT IS THIS TITLE 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@Greetings-r6fYOU ARE PROVING HIS POINT, and you don’t even realize it bro. You are the problem, you are a part of the reason why kids shoot up schools.
14:06 People care so much about fixing suicidal thoughts that they ignore homicidal thoughts
so real omg
my man, great video. but please change the title. it comes off extremely tone deaf and i don’t think you meant it that way.
True I think he should but the title gets clicks so he probably isn't going to
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@@Wrath_of_the_bagel yeah it's just exploiting a real problem for clicks I think a title like "how Tyler, the creator faced the school shooter epidemic" then people would still click cause their curious without clickbaiting the audience
@@gexgaming6954no we wouldn’t click
@@gexgaming6954it’s upsetting but they wouldn’t
Even if you lack empathy it just seems strategically sensible to try to understand the motives of your enemy
cheers Tyler, I am thankful I can go to my school without getting shot!
same :D
I’m estonian so I’m happy that we have no shootings at all. But I’m also happy Americans can go to school without a psychopath shooting people.
Bro what the FUCK is that title
I don't think OP meant a complete resolution and halt of the school shooting issue, more that Tyler seems to have broken down, and either understood or found the root of the problem behind these school shootings, regardless of what comes after in local news and media such as topics on gun control or arming personnel
its clickbait bro
solved is a strong word
He literally said it's not him saying it was solved or figured out, just him bringing attention to the matter. Did u watch the vid?
@@GreatestGenIsTheBestGen i did but the title
I think the right word is 'addressed'.
Rename the video to “That Time Tyler Creator Tackled The School Shooting epidemic” current title is too far and ridiculous
That’s prolly the best title
for the love of god change the title
“Look at the kid who had the nine and tried to blow out his mind, but talk is money, I said “Hi” I guess I bought him some time.” - Tyler, The Creator
DAMN. I ain't heard that in a while nor have I actually understood it, thank you Super_Poodle and Tyler.
"solved the school shooting epidemic" lmaoooo ok
It is a dumbass clickbait title, but he actually brings up some great points
what i think he meant in his tweet wasn’t that the shooters were cool because of their shootings, but that they probably had great personalities but were considered weird by their peers and no one had cared to check in on them
this title is hilariously bad
What was it? I think he changed it rn
@@matin1285 no way the current title is the changed version
Is it is, it can't be much better cause wtf 😭
@@creatiicreamiiI dont think he changed the title...
@@creatiicreamii 😭😭🙏
If I remember correctly, Tyler himself said he actually dislikes this song. I'll try to find where I saw this. But I do think this song is a good perspective on a real issue. It also ties very well with the WOLF album theme along with his trilogy ( BASTARD-WOLF).
he did say this once, might've been the result of the backlash making him think that his intentions with this song weren't delivered properly
Yeah, he said he hate “pigs” and “Buffalo”
I'm not from the US, so seeing all these school shooting incidents from the outside is truly shocking, but even more confusing. What could possibly create a wave of young murderers? And what is the solution to this issue? Is there even a solution in the first place? It's definetely hard for me to feel sympathy for a killer of any kind, but Tyler's (and your's) is an interesting perspective on this subject.
This reminded me of a song by two spanish rappers, Porta and Santaflow, 'voces en mi interior', where they depict the story of a bullied kid (portrayed by Santaflow) who gives into the voices inside his mind (portrayed by Porta) that tell him to set his classroom on fire and kill his classmates. I believe this song sparked little to no controversy tho, maybe because it isn't a sensitive subject over in spain, or at least not at that time, perhaps people didn't perceive the song as a messege in favor of murderers like in Pigs case. idk, I just thought I'd mention that.
Hopefully these incidents will come to an end someday. Great video
It's USA. The gun laws are fucked. In Finland we have super strict law, where if you have any gun (even simple pistol) any officer/other goverment personel can come into your house at any time to check that the gun is in a safe or in the same designated and agreed on place. For example if the gun is agreed to be in a safety locker, but the officer finds it on your bed, they can take your gun permission out for rest of your life. Also you need to have military service done before getting even a permission. I think in America they take guns too lightly and as an everyday object, while in other countries like Finland, you rarely ever even see people with guns (we hate when people come into our house uninvited lol)
@@prod.ajaton2 the gun laws aren't the root of the issues, the indulgence of media and how it affects young minds can be pinned, but rather its much more complex than that, i believe that the over indulgence of media an internet in the US is the real root of the problems, as the internet isnt a safe place. Theres online bullying etc, apart from that theres also issues that exist in their own lives that make the internet their escape, and if their escape from reality is filled with hatred, it further perpetuates the impulsive nature that young kids have with violence, if u live a life full of hate, ur gonna be quite hateful too. The narrative of gunlaws being a root issue is so sloppy and lazy, cause even if we banned guns and any weapon, it doesnt end the impulsive nature and anger that kids have. Theres a whole bigger picture :(
@@funkykong6144 gun control may not be the solution, but it can be a safety measure and the first step to find a solution. No doubt there's a societal/psychological issue underneath the surface that has to be dealt with, but the fact that guns are so easy to access is a problem in itself.
Where I live, the enforcement of the law may not be as strict as finland's, but many people desist from owning guns despite feeling unsafe in their homes because they feel they can become a danger to themselves. You are never safe around a firearm, no matter where it is
dude im from the US and we dont know either. Its probably a mix between the heavy gun culture here mixed with mental illness, and the internet. I knew a dude last year in my sophomore of high school and bro was literally a psychopath. This foo had hard home life and what ive known by foos who went to his middle school. Is that he was always being bullied endlessly. When i met him bro was always on his phone using shit like 4 chan n shi hella he was hella edgy too. he would spend 10s of hours every week to looking at gore vids and he would show people in the class i was in. We reported him hella times to the teachers and office but they never did anything besides take him to the counselor. i also remember he was huge on guns he would on stuff like offer up to look at guns for sell. And i remember the last day i saw him he told some of us in our group he was talking about how he could hurt someone and not feel anything and shit like that and he was talking about school shooters and he explained a story. on how if he would shoot up a school he would block the main exist and lure people out. we were all freaked out and told on him last thing i heard from the teachers is he was put in a hospital. Also mb for the spelling im exhausted.
It's a mental health issue
“I hate frogs and uh pretiscious people”
this video inspired me so much. I want to try to start an app for kids to be more open about mental health and depression so stuff like this could be avoided.
I like your idea but that could end horribly if you add comments
The Whisper App exist and it got co-oped by incels and femcels that do nothing but yell over each other all day.
WOW! This is incredible! Please chase this dream! I'm behind you all the way
@@randomperson2099exactly what i was thinking
Clearly he didn't
This is the best video I’ve watched, Tyler is right idc what anyone thinks, we all got to be there for anybody
Might be the worst youtube title of all time
A lot of people behind school shootings are people with motive or some sort of backstory/trauma. Although those people may have gone through something genuinely traumatic, it's never an excuse to commit harmful actions
yea man no school shooting ever happened again, what a weird title
U sped gang ngl
broski, no he didn't stop "The School Shooting Epidemic" knock it off
Solved, not stopped
@@SoundScape532 broski, he didn't "solve The School Shooting Epidemic"
@@CharlesHammy detectives don't stop murders
@@CharlesHammybroski, STOP SAYING BROSKI. Also in the VIDEO he admits it's not solved or "fixed" jus him bringing attention to the topic. WATCH THE VID
@@GreatestGenIsTheBestGen nah Broski, pay me if you wanna me to stop saying broski
Sometimes talking about the issue itself instead of just leaving it behind or making it almost illegal to talk about could solve it. I brought up the topic but my friends shushed me saying they might think I’m wrong from the head and might do it which is actually just sad
I'm sorry to hear about your friends. I would encourage you to continue seeking out friendships that want to engage in deeper life topics with you. My friend, you are a seeker, and that is an amazing thing
@@JacksonsMusicPalatenot a lot ppl I know like to go that deep but I’m glad here in UA-cam there are ppl like you that openly open to ideas and go deep that society mostly shuts them off hahaha I’ll seek ppl that think the same love your videos ❤
People who judge Tyler for this song had an easy life and it shows
Talk about tone deaf lmfao live in that imaginary world where no one is allowed to criticize shit because of shit you think
I often see people thinking pigs is the worst song of wolf, and for me it has always being more deep than just some goofy drums and a cliché psycopathe's story. Thanks for the video, as a non-American who doesn't deal with school shooting issues, the video was very instructive
it’s such an incredible song too it’s a shame people don’t like it, the lyrics and beat tell a great story and it’s just amazing as a whole
all good points.
there's other stuff to it (like how young men are raised and how easily they can be radicalized), but i think this spoke on one aspect pretty well
Worst video title ever ☠️
Bruh I always tell people tyler is such an excellent story teller. This song is what I always show them. But time and time again he has tracks like this. Wilshire on CMIYGL instantly reminded me of wolf era Tyler
I think we need to spend more time not empathizing with people who clearly don't have empathy skills. The fact is that we can not control how hard someone's life is. But we can try to help them before it is too late.
i love how you talked about how people dehumanize them after they do something so horrible and how we have to sympathize for how they feel and what they're going through and how we shouldn't sympathize for what they did
Tyler didn’t solve anything the rates are still increasing 😂
Because society won’t listen to his solution 😕
omg phew! good thing he saved the world no more school shootings!
Wow this really changed my outlook on the song and album and honestly school shootings in general. Thank you.
as someone who WAS going to be a school shooter, I heavily related to this song, to the point where it almost felt eerie. Everyone who talks about school shootings never understand why they happen or just blame guns and call it a day. Understanding that when you have nothing to lose and hatred is the only thing you really have you're going to do something with it that no one is going to like. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
The title Pigs could also be that all of his classmates are Pigs and he is the big bad wolf.
As someone who’s hasn’t listened to wolf yet, I’m excited to listen
listen to it its crazy
bike around on a sunny day and listen to wolf, best way to experience the album
Drop some acid and listen to it
Guys, im happy to report its literally one of my favorite albums of all time. I took your guys recommendations (not the acid cus I’m sober) and the drums, the bass, the guitar, etc. so beautiful. I’ll never forget this video.
my favorite tyler song never gets any attention it’s about time
Bastard: Story and his dark expression of emotion
Goblin: Overdone dark story at one point
WOLF: Everything but matured and better.
Great video dude. This was awesome. I think the line when Tyler was talking about listening to music but they “wouldn’t let me on their team” is a reference to his actual life in high school. He wanted to join the high school band and orchestra but he got kicked out of both because the kids were making fun of him and thought he was annoying. I think it’s kind of a cool reference
it seems like u missed the point of goblin man
Hey man, I don’t think ‘solved’ is the right word
I feel like with pigs, it’s not meant to make you sympathize with school shooters, but instead empathize with them. Big difference.
i hate the "americas gun laws are stupid" argument and im aussie, i just think its so dumb
man i wana hug tyler as someone who’s been bullied and purposefully ostracized
Music not influencing his decision is probably also a reference to how people blamed the Columbine shooting on Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, and other groups and artists.
an unloved child will burn down the village to feel it’s warmth
well documented music album video. This is my first and you have really opened my eyes to something i didnt know about in the first place and what its really about. Glad this is my first video from u
i love wolf so much, pigs is definitely one of my fav songs tyler has ever made
I'm glad about this video because Pig is one of my favorite songs on WOLF, and really describes the songs meaning
“People who do this are actually cool people and needed attention instead of getting bullied” ???? The kids at Robb Elementary didn’t deserve what they got bc someone was feeling bad about themselves one day. Emotional regulation is a skill a lot of people have surprisingly 💀
I swear some people look at things at a surface level and don’t understand depth and nuance. Ik the term NPC is trendy but the people who think this song is “promoting ss” r the definition of one imo
Kendrick Lamar explained this whole phenomenan best in the quote hurt people hurt more people
You had me until you said guns aren't the problem.
Guns aren’t the problem, bad gun owners are, no matter how much you control guns for innocent tax paying citizens bad people are gonna get guns if they need them , whether or not it’s legal
ppl stressed over the title are school shooters
From 20:00 to 20:37 .
This!!! THat Part!! Right their. You hit the nail with THORS MIGHTY HAMMER my guy- Luv E
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i thought tyler says i hate frogs until i whatched this video
Even before I started listening to Tyler, I was always curious about the psychology of serial killers and mass shooters. When I did find Wolf, I loved it because it's doesn't just acknowledge those shooters but their mentality and a lot of it is super relatable. it's a kid going through shit and no one to reach out. some people just don't make it through that shit. there's a reason "love your enemies" exist
Wolf will always be my favorite Tyler album, this video is great and was very educational
people talking about “Pigs” but never about “Pigs Fly”
This video is perfectly made and I truly enjoyed viewing!
Thank you dearly for taking the time to encourage me. These comments mean so much!
8:27 ironic shoot down but also this is really cool and its great to raise awarness so if you know someone whos parents treat them wrong at home you can try n comfort them
Dude this might be one of the best UA-cam videos I’ve ever watched, amazing job dude.
As someone who feels empathy for EVERYONE I understand what Tyler was saying and trying to portray. I never understand why we can’t sympathize for the persons on the opposite side, we can’t we sympathize for both parties? It’s Bc people are so scared of being judged, we need to care for both parties if we want to solve the issue.
I mean Tyler is right, they were probably the prototype kids that Tyler would love. They were probably geeks and were super into what they loved. My respect for him skyrocketed because writing that song could’ve ruined his career, he could’ve been canceled so fast
Reminds of how KoRn made the song "thoughtless" about the shooters perspective
its interesting to me that the song pumped up kicks got radio play and was considered an aesthetic lil diddy and artistic, while this song was demonized and considered to glorify these actions.
yea that's always confused me
thats gotta be like top 5 most insensitive/dumbest youtube titles ive read basically all because of 'solved'
Thank you Tyler for ending school shootings
There are three alter-egos performing on Wolf Tyler, Wolf Haley and Sam also Sam appears on Bastard in the song pigs fly and i think goblin and bastard are misunderstood because the trilogy is connected in the order Bastard, Wolf and Goblin
Sam is in Pigs Fly? I’ve listened to Bastard so many times and never noticed
@@spaceshipsandbliss Yeah people didn’t know when it released but after wolf it’s pretty clear
Sam's a separate character from Tyler and Wolf
@@Preejuu42 Look at sam is dead music video
20:00-20:37 was so profound ✨glad I watched
amazing video man never knew tyler would portray such a complex issue in such an amazing way, i don't even listen to him really jus think he's an amazing artistic mind.
This is a really good video man you put it all perfectly many props!
just had a lot of thoughts of how someone could do this or come to this point themselves and if you see some correlations you can kinda work it out but tryler really fleshed it out in such an amazingly fluent way.
apologies if im rambling just always seen it as a really perplexing thing not being from america (obviously happens rarely in some other places but i assume we all synonymize the two)
Praise this video. You did amazing.
Off topic, but I love the daft punk picture thingy in the back
i’m sorry but he did not solve anything with this song 💀. i’m not saying it’s a bad song but tyler wasn’t in some sort of genius introspective state of mind when he made this. i feel like this is just one of his last songs where he would talk about violent shit for shock value or as an outlet
sure im glad you put that in the first second and the description but come on that title just turns me off man
As if the edpidemic is even close to solved, and as if one person can solve it
Do you know the one thing that school shootings and youth suicide have in common. More time is spent demonizing the shooter or talking about how the child shouldn't have committed suicide but not enough time is spent on a why this occurred in both cases.
You should make a Patreon... I would be willing to pay for this content
I'm all for anti bullying measures and improved mental health services, but gun control IS the root of the issue. Tons of countries, such as the UK and Ireland, are doing a pretty terrible job when it comes to mental health services for youth, and yet mass shootings are incredibly rare. I myself live in Ireland, where mental health services are considered inadequate and far behind other EU countries, but school shootings are a non-issue because of how stringent our gun laws are (licenses are required that only can be obtained for very specific purposes, like hunting or target shooting, and you have to receive approval from the police to obtain one). Acting incredulous as to why people would want to talk about gun control when school shootings occur is just unreasonable.
good luck trying to disarm millions of americans who firmly believe in the 2nd amendment
Really? You sure? I still see school shootings bruh. 🤦♂️ he didn’t do shit
I also want to note how the 3rd verse’s first line is also in reference that after Columbine, they never looked at their social lives until years after. Instead, they opted to try to blame anything. Doom, Marilyn Manson, Television. They never looked at the reality. I understand the reality because when I was 14 I thought about it. These kids were hurting and they had nobody to turn to, nobody willing to listen. Nobody understood their pain. So they decided to MAKE them understand. I’m not defending them but I’m showing their mindset. They had to hurt the way they hurt.
the issue with solving mass shootings is that its not possible to solve from the root. the root of the problem is mass shootings are caused by either angry people (as in columbine) or people who enjoy watching others suffer. (as in sandy hook, parkland, and Uvalde) that's not something that is fixable. you cant force people to feel empathy if they don't, so where were at now is at least trying to find a way to limit the damage these people can do, sense there isnt anyway to stop them from wanting to do the damage. that's why Americas poor gun control is the perfect breeding grounds for mass shootings. our capitalistic greed of wanting materials leads us to be angry when its taken away, because now we have less stuff, so gun control essentially cant work until people feel so unsafe they no longer care about material possessions. then mass shootings will stop because you wont be able to kill as Meany people in such a short amount of time.
also the reason why people are mad about "pigs" is because art is viewed by the general public as a mockery of its subject matter. that why art is treated with un-importance is pop culture, and artists are viewed as either pretentious assholes or idiotic nobodies. so when people hear that someone (intentionally, mind you. "pumped up kicks" for example, while culturally viewed in the context of a school shooting, was intended to be an allegory about popularity by the band that made it. so its not viewed as distasteful.) made a song about a school shooting, it comes off as insensitive and cruel.
@@confinedbydigits what are you, steven universe?
they want to watch the world burn because they *have* no empathy
@@confinedbydigits hurt people hurt people, yes, but people who enjoy hurting people do it far more.
Uvalde, parkland, and sandy hook were all the product of mentally ill and psychological disturbed individuals, who simply wanted to just hurt people. nothing made them that way, they just wanted to do it, could do it, and had no one in there way and no process to stop them from doing it. yes, columbine was loosely the fault of the school because of the school culture looking down on anyone who wasn't hot, rich, and athletic, but both killers also presented mental illness so their likely enjoyment of the situation can not be ruled out. hurt people hurt people, but hurt people don't go to there old elementary school and shoot it up for fun. disturbed creatures do.
Idk bruh there still be school shooters
reducing the problem to just bullying is just as dumb. america DOES have a gun problem and gun control should also be in peoples minds when these kids have access to weapons that easily. there's a reason why this is a topic that's only a thing in the US and everyone looks at you all crazy for it.
why shouldn't y'all talk about gun laws and instead about "banning social media" when so many of these massacres have nothing to do with that at all. so many of these massacres are hate crimes or have victims with absolutely no relation to the shooter's life, like sandy hook. how is this "loving one another" mentality gonna prevent a neo-nazi from shooting a church full of black people? a gay club?. so many of these people lack empathy for human lives yet they can buy something that can take them away with so much ease with barely any problems, how is that not a gun issue as well?
Gun control does more harm than good. the vast majority of gun crimes are committed with illegal guns.
the vast majority of self defense cases use legal guns.
Doesn’t take a genius to find out why banning guns or making them harder to get causes more problems
I stumbled across this video then watched 4 of your other ones and subbed keep up the quality content your amazing at this
Pretty clickbaity title but the video is actually really good
Bastard was great goblin was ok and wolf was near perfect for his early work imo
Goblin was good,Batard was meh but wolf was amazing.
4:12 close, tyler said in an interview wolf is who he wants to be
wtf what is this video lol
I found you awhile back, and the first video I saw of you was your breakdown of House of Balloons by the Weeknd. I followed you that very day, and I gotta say, you are such an underrated creator on this platform. This video about Tyler gave me chills, and it made me revisit him and I listened to his whole discography. Thank You for being you. My support for you will continue :)
This is the perfect example of click bate
your take on tyler’s old music (bastard and goblin) is spot on imo
video too long. what was his take
@@tigrispanthera5496 tldr he said that his old music was insensitive or whatever, that's not the message of the video though you should take the time to watch this video
It has a very good inspirational message
Pigs is my favorite song from WOLF. I’m happy it’s getting recognized for what it is.
Dude please change the name of the video to something else. Like i don't know "Tyler's most controversial song" or something else this title just comes across as inappropriate and uncaring and that's clearly not the point of the video. I actually really enjoyed this study you did here on the song but I came here because that title struck me as probably being related to a very poorly done video, which this video definetly isn't, and it would be a real shame for people to not wnat to watch it because of this reason