How Pink Floyd Built The Wall - Part Three: The Film | Vinyl Rewind
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- After the wild success of The Wall album and its spectacular live show, the film version was the final piece of Roger’s master plan but it proved to be the most difficult. On today’s episode, we conclude our look into the making of The Wall, with part three, the making of the film. #musichistory #PinkFloyd #vinyl
CORRECTIONS: 3:00 date should read 1980, not 1982
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Povey, Glenn. Echoes: The Complete History of Pink Floyd. Chicago: Chicago Review Press, Inc, 2010
Pink Floyd Their Mortal Remains. London: V&A Publishing, 2017
Blake, Mark. Comfortably Numb The Inside Story of Pink Floyd. Cambridge: Da Capo Press, 2008
Mason, Nick. Inside Out A Personal History of Pink Floyd. San Francisco, Chronicle Books LLC, 2017
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Pink Floyd: Behind the Wall. Directed by Sonia Anderson, Vantage International Productions, 28 May 2011.
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Roger Waters: The Wall Directed by Sean Evans and Roger Waters, Universal, 2015
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Thank you all for sticking around while I finished the third part. I still have a few more videos related to The Wall yet to come out so stay tuned for that. In the meantime, let me know if you would be interested in a super cut of all three parts.
Vinyl Rewind no problem, I began watching this trilogy this morning, so this coming out now is quite convenient! Great videos by the way! A super cut would be nice as well!
Yes, a super cut would be great!
I will keep this short. Outstanding job with this series. I really enjoyed all three parts and looking forward to the upcoming videos you just mentioned. Thanks!
I'd like a super Cut.
The first part popped up im my recommended a few weeks ago and I've been binging your videos ever since. I can't wait to see what else you have planned
Roger: *Spits on fan.*
*Later.*
Roger: “Hey, you know what’d be cool?”
This series you’ve made is an amazing deep dive into one of the greatest albums of all time. Keep up the good work man.
thank you
PotatoMaster 1233 Shine on you Crazy Diamond
@@VinylRewind What's the name of the song in the beginning?
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It's funny about the whole "I hate Pink Floyd" thing with Punk Rock.
Because Pink Floyd Albums (Animals in particular) were about the same things Punk songs were about and with an anger that Punk bands could not match.
RastaSaiyaman I’m pretty sure the “I Hate Pink Floyd” thing was really more of a joke, based on what Johnny Rotten has stated.
You have to remember that punk is also about simplicity and getting away from the complicated music and theatrics that Floyd represents.
@@ajpowers7842 Ever since Punk Rock became genre people have a strict view of what Punk is like and it basically came down to:
- Lyric-wise the stone cold truth: songs about alienation, being angry at the local government, angry at your parents, being unemployed, having no dime to spend, typical teenage problems.
- Music wise, fast and loud and you didn't need to be proficient at playing your instrument, the least capability you had the better.
- Crappy instruments, you're on the dole, you cannot afford anything fancy.
- Attitude, there shouldn't be a brotherhood of punk rock, every band was at war with each other.
- Fakers are not allowed.
- Disown everything that came before. Rock Dinosaurs went extinct for a reason.
BUT...
Singing it like you lived it actually went up for very few of the original punk rock bands. When the Ramones sang about "beating the brat with a baseball bat" they weren't singing about knocking peoples heads in because they were doing so themselves, come on! But truly singing it like you lived it only started to happen post-punk with songs like "Ghost town" by the Specials or "One in ten" by UB-40
As for not being musically proficient. There's no denying that Paul Cook and Steve Jones were a very proficient unit on "Nevermind the bollocks" they were tight and threw in some musical curve balls that people with no musical talent would never come up with in the first place. Same with the Clash, Topper Headon and Joe Strummer had been doing the club scene before punk broke and were seasoned veterans and in due time Mick Jones and Paul Simonon mastered their instruments and started writing songs themselves.
John Lydon always maintained that Punkrock as music was too conventional, he envisioned it being totally un-listenable. Public Image Limited first two albums show what his vision for punk was and even those show amazing musicianship with Jah Wobble's bass lines and Keith Levene's metallic guitars.
Then there's Nina Hagen who is considered to be the princess of punk but she had received classical training and her band were top notch musicians.
Crappy instruments eh?
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Well Pete Shelley of the Buzzcocks played a guitar with the top half broken off but as soon as he could afford to buy himself a better guitar he did just that.
And look at what the others were playing, Fenders, Rickenbackers and a LOT of Gibsons, the Les Paul Custom which has become an Icon of Punkrock because of Mick Jones and Steve Jones using them was even back then a very fancy and expensive guitar.
At war with each other also is a well known fable but the reality was that bands in order to score gigs would help each other out by phoning in where a good venue was and would lend each other instruments if needed. Heck Pat Smear, when the Germs were still around didn't even own a guitar, playing all the shows using loaners.
Fakers are not allowed, just ask Plastic Bertrand, who clearly was a creation of the record industry who wanted to cash in on the punk craze. Nobody in the Punk Rock scene took him seriously, certainly not when it came out that he NEVER sang on his songs.
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BUT for some reason The Tubes "White punks on dope" became a Punk rock anthem while the song itself was a spoof on glam rock and featured prog-inspired synthesizers.
As for disowning all that came before. Paul Cook and John Lydon once ran into Pete Townshend who totally was into what punk rock was about and apologized for having been become a Rock Dinosaur at which Lydon told him "No, not at all, we really love the 'Oo." Or what about Sid Vicious covering Frank Sinatra's "My way"
The interesting part of the story was when New Wave emerged in the UK and hardcore emerged in the USA, there were bands who truly lived to the rules of Punk as if they were from the bible.
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Dr. Know and Daryl Jenifer of the Bad Brains telling how they recorded their first album. It's just the punkest thing ever.
Nowadays, CBGB's is a clothing store, the Subpop label has a merchandising store on the Seattle airport. And people try to forget about the fact that the Ramones worked with Phil Spector...
Hindsight is always 20/20 but John Lydon had a point when he ended the Sex Pistols' final show by proclaiming "Ever had the feeling you've been cheated?"
Right?? bc Pink Floyd was/is all about adolescence -- but they sinned by insisting on playing in key.
RastaSaiaman I agree with everything you stated about Punk, very well put. I was never really into it, and i was a teenager when it was all the rage, but i thought "Animals" was and still is a masterpiece of anger and frustration at the world, far deeper than any Punk... By the way, do you even like Pink Floyd? Just curious...
Thanks for this series, it's been absolutely brilliant so far. I'm a huge Floyd fan and you have taught me things when I thought there was nothing left for me to learn. I'm looking forward to more.
As for the supercut, why not? It's high enough quality you could probably get it on TV here in the UK. All the best.
You're welcome
If I had a time machine, I'd go to one of those Earls Court shows.
For Punks at that time, it was the "party line" that you had to hate Pink Floyd, but a lot of them were secret Floyd fans (John Lydon has said as much).
Matt Gilbert I didn't make it to earls court but I did see the wall at Nassau coliseum - ticket was $15. Gas, parking, concert book, etc cost more than the ticket !
Still my #1 concert - even more than Rogers arena and stadium wall shows.
@@designerlarry Any of the Wall shows, they all seemed amazing
@@designerlarry the PF shows, not the new Waters ones. OG all the way!
@@designerlarry Gilmour on top of the Wall playing the Comfortably Numb outro solo - that must have been something.
This was really great! I hope you can do The Who's "Tommy" some time!
Agree
James Justus this was liked!!! I’d love to see him do Tommy, that movie is phenomenal :)
Absolutely
yesssssssssss
James Justus Tommy’s great but the train wreck that was creating Quadrophenia is so much more interesting. (Love the album and the movie.)
Man, hats off to Roger, because he has more drive in one day as I have in a lifetime.
I agree with you. He was very much an asshole but his drive and creativity was crazy.
Didn't help that the production used *actual* skinheads for the Run Like Hell concert hall bits.
Excellent series. Thank you for putting it together.
Never knew that. That adds a lot more impact to the scene for me now.
I really enjoyed this series! I’d love to see more. Maybe make one about quadrophenia or Led Zeppelin IV
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I gotta say - this host/narrator is very well spoken and a great on-camera persona. Well done; a lot of youtubers don't have this kind of polish.
“We’re all on the dole...”
Seriously. You had to be there.
The “Bring the Boys Back Home” sequence was made on the Worth Valley Railway during the last few days of the shoot, and the stars were the cream of West Yorkshire’s unemployed. Hence yours truly’s presence, and the improvised version of the lyrics we were all singing during at least one of the takes 😎
wait really? You are in the film?
@@VinylRewind Yes. I spent Three days as an extra. Two of them climbing on and off a train at Keithley Station wearing a World War Ii British Army uniform, and another in a cattle car pressing my masked face against rubber barbed wire as they shunted us in and out of a tunnel.
Bob Geldof appeared on set once looking a bit detached (his state of mind st the time is well documented in his autobiography), and the dance choreographer fell.off a chair while directing us in rehearsal.
They recruited the extras for the Yorkshire based filming from the local Job Centres. As unemployment was running at over 10% at the time there were a lot of us to choose from.
If you read this, Vinyl Rewind, I'd just like to say that I have LOVED this series, and your videos on other albums. Your detailed analysis and reviews are great, and I really enjoy them. Keep it going. 👍👍
I saw the movie at the famed Ziegfeld theater in Manhattan, NY. I'll never forget this old woman all dressed up standing in line to get in. It looked to me as if she's gone to every Ziegfeld premiere, and wasn't about to miss this one even though it was clear she had no idea what she was in for. I made sure I got a seat that I could also see her reaction to some of the more shocking scenes I expected would be in the film, and wasn't disappointed. I was also more than fortunate to get to see the original tour at Nassau Coliseum in 1980.
I totally find it ironic he hated PINK FLOYDS music but he was the one that made the famous reunion happen. Roger Waters is hell too work with just ask David GILMOUR and Dave Mason.
You can also ask NICK Mason...
Well HATED...hard to find anything current saying that he still hates...the original interview was before he starting filming and really becoming friends with them.
Just after I finally got around to the movie too. Phenomenal work on all of these Wall videos, usually I find those "wHY do U HAVe s0 LitTLe SuuUBS" comments annoying but for you that seriously does apply. Keep that flawless streak up!
love the profile pic BRODY
Genuinely one of my favourite channels now.
Your feature on Daft Punk brought me to your channel. Your three part feature on The Wall has blown me away, and ensured I will stay.
Love the production quality of your videos, very reminiscent of some shows I recall from childhood in the early 80s.
Learnt a huge amount from these videos. Thank you for your hard work, a level of effort that shines through.
thank you
I am a PF fan for almost 40 years, they are number 1 for me. Great series of videos on the wall, you are a very good presenter. I have all their albums on vinyl and only need "works" on CD to complete my CD collection. Keep up the excellent work.
Cheers! Someone who speaks clearly and has presentation values on UA-cam is not as common as it could be. Now, Give us some more Mr. Vinyl Geek.
Funny ain't it....bob geldoff hated pink floyd....but he was the one to bring them all together again at LIVE 8
right!?!
Another incredible part to the amazing story of The Wall. The shear amount of effort it took for this concept to go from album to the big screen is truly mind boggling. As a life long fan of the band I thank you once again for another fine addition to the story.
Nice just watched the movie last night. Its also one of my favorite films.
Obscured by clouds is the most under rated record of all time.
thanks for the three parts to this. Higher-end video essays are always welcome on youtube.
The Wall Movie was my intro to Pink Floyd. This video series was one of the most insightful pieces of Floyd Lore I’ve ever seen (and just an all-around very well-made series on its own). If you have any videos on Pink Floyd in the future I know I’d definitely love them, and I guarantee that even ones based on the solo careers of the band mates would be great too. Keep up the great work 👍🏽
This series was amazing. Fantastic work. Thank you so much
Pink Floyd fanatic here. It's rare that I learn something new about Pink Floyd, but I did watching this 3 part series.
You've earned a new subscriber. Thank you.
These have been some of my favorite videos of yours. I've always deeply loved The Wall, both the album and film. I drove my mom nuts, by listening to the album so much. And, the film is one that I've lost count of how many times, that I've seen it. Yet, I've never gotten tired or bored of either the album or film. Thank you for making videos about them!
I watched all three, this is the best of the three. Thank you for your time putting it together !
This series is the best I've ever seen on the making of this album!! 🙌💗
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!
From a Floyd fan old enough and lucky enough to have seen them do The Wall in London in 81, I enjoyed these 3 videos a lot and learned a lot from them
Wow man, superb work on these Wall videos. I highly suggest diving into more series like this, you are very good at it. Keep up the good work!
thanks for the recap
Well done! I thoroughly enjoyed this series.
The film used to frighten me as a kid, especially the Goodbye Blue Sky and What Shall We Do Now sequences. It's a shame it's not out on blu-ray, but I believe there's some complicated rights issues surrounding the film.
yeah you're probably right
This series was amazing. PLEASE DO MORE!!
Well done, sir. Great work. Leave it to David Gilmour to be the one to step in and bring some sanity to the situation. Parker's only an Oscar nominated film director...why should he have final cut of a film? It should be left to Pink Floyd's bass player. Good grief, what an asshat.
amazing 3 part series! incredibly well done, right pictures to connect to the perfectly pointed out arguments and history driven moments. just absolutely great! keep up the good work! 👏👏👏
This was a creative way to review The Wall and its story. Congrats 👍👏
I have a very personal connection with this album and movie and i personally believe its the greatest album of all time, and every time I finish the album or movie I begin to cry because its truly a masterpiece and inspires me to write my own music
I take it you don't "write" punk music? :4)
One of the greatest works of art ever created. The wall, the album and movie, are absolutely spectacular. In my opinion, Everyone involved in making this masterpiece should look back at it and be extremely proud. Sure maybe the making was very stressful, and not exactly pleasant, but the end product is a fucking masterpiece, and it wouldn’t be what it is today of things went differently back then.
Proper justice n understanding of pink Floyd content given only by this channel
Maaaaan...I loved this series. such an amazing deep dive into a rather not very talked about part of music history. this was awesome :)
Thank you for the 3 part series on the Wall. This is a subject I knew a lot about and have geeked out over it for many years. Even so, you made it sound fresh, still interesting, and were able to tell me things I did not know. Fantastic job and well done.
thank you
My girl was working as a projectionist at a theatre where my band rehearsed in the basement.When the undeniably magnificent film "The Wall" came 2 the theatre,the whole sound system and screen had been
replaced with the latest version of THX Dolby Surround Sound . I remember being just amped up 4 this as the
album release in 1980;I was in high school (grade10),and it profoundly changed my life.I had a friend who was in2 the album as much as myself."If U don't eat your meat U can't have any pudding!How can U have any pudding if U don't eat your meat?!U behind the bench stand,yes U!Stand still laddie!!"We knew every word and every
atmospheric!Completely obsessed with the album;it changed my life...Pink Floyd were always so visceral and U
could see easily,how it could be in film format! The first time I saw it, I was transfixed.Completely wiped any idea of life as an idealist. I was now a fully informed "realist". I saw the film 21 times, and it opened the floodgates of
creative expression.My way of composing music had changed as I realized how important all the atmospheric of T.V clips (Gunsmoke ,the series,had a sound byte where Marshal Dillon(James Arness) says 2 the host where they were holed up"We can't stay here.Your fathers going 2 pick up our trail b4 long .All right.Time 2 go.Thank U 4 everything."just b4 "Is there anybody out there?"Man,where did all the ethos of the album as a valid art form go?Everything is just prefab homogenized nonsense with 0 artistic ambition or cultural value!Music is become
nothing more than distraction 4 the intellectually bankrupt.Heavens above,I miss the days of the real music,with real effort and craftsmanship!Anyways,I digress...Pink Floyd "The Wall-album and movie are a cultural watershed,not likely 2 ever be surpassed,4 sheer inspiration and creative GENIUS!'Nuff said.🤓✨🙏🏼✨🎼
Been listening to this album for a month straight, can’t get enough of it. And I just watched all 3 parts of this series and am blown away by your work. Thank you so much for this!!
Finally! I watched this the other day still great.
My father was born 1950. I was born 1981.
I grew up hearing all types of music that my dad loved. Some grabbed me more than others. The Wall grabbed me like nothing else before. I could see and feel things that I never heard on vinyl before. I had known that a Pink Floyd movie existed, but I never saw it.
Then, one day I had my own money to buy whatever I wanted. The first two movies I bought were Pink Floyd The Wall and Universal Soldier at the age of 13. (Nobody checked ID back then).
The film version of The Wall didn't match my imagination. Instead, it broadened my understanding of music in a way I had never imagined. It helped shape me into the man I am today. For that I will be forever grateful.
Thank you Vinyl Geek, you did a fantastic job on these parts about the waters project and the background was spot on! -Thomas
I loved this series! Thank you so much for making this.
Thanx for all the effort putting these 3 parts together!
This is seriously one of the most underrated channels on UA-cam. You really deserve more subscribers. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your content!
I’m strangely elated Spielberg didn’t care for this brilliant film.
Andy Chandler he never said he didn’t like it
He just thought the movie was weird, which is true. Never said he didn't liked it
All three parts were great. I'm a longtime fan and even I learned something new from this series. That hasn't happened to me in years, thanks!
Good job on this series. I too love the opening shot of the cigarette. If you have a keen eye and are watching in HD, you can see the iconic screaming face at the tip of the ash (around 10:07).
I loved the series. Pink Floyd is one of the greatest rock bands for me and watching these 3 parts gave me much joy.
Great work! thanks a lot! I watched The Wall movie in VHS tape when I was 14 and it blew my mind away, greetings from Argentina!
Awesome content and I seriously want my house to look like that set.
Great video trilogy. I listen to Pink Floyd since I was a kid and it is nice to have such a good video on UA-cam about it. Thank you, Ace Ventura!
I've been listening o the wall non stop since you put out the 35 minute the wall review. Thank you so much, great music and an even greater story!!!
Your 3 part video is a real ‘tour de force’ ! Congratulations!
You did a great job on this series VR! So entertaining and informative... I'm just sad it's over!
This is ur best series I would kill to see one of those concerts
All three of these videos were extremely well made. Very entertaining with a lot of info. Great work!
This is a great piece of work, well done!
This has got to be one of the best documentaries on all of UA-cam.
Thanks again. i used to read a lot about Floyd, but these 3 vids have reminded me or taught me a bunch of things.
i have no idea how this man assembled this information which to me seems not only profoundly correct but also, at times, astonishing. That was an incredibly well-made docmentary. 5 stars
I stepped up my game; read books and watched interviews
I love the commitments mention, great movie and my all time favorite soundtrack. fun fact: it was the first movie ever whose soundtrack garnered a sequel while the movie didn’t. Great stuff
I’ve been waiting for this. I can tell you and whoever is behind this channel put so much time and research into this, along with editing. Cheers and no doubt it will pay off in the long run.
Excellent 3-parter. Thank-you, Squire.
Great series. Well done and informative. As s lifelong Floyd fan, this was a treat. Kudos.
i watched all three parts...don't have a clue how did you put this thing up ...great work ! i think you deserve a fourth part - "the making of the wall youtube video series" ;-)
haha, never thought of that. it would be a lot of me reading books, watching interviews and trying desperately to find photos of the band from this time period
That was fantastic! Thank ya for the great vids!
I love this guy's set design and his vintage hairstyle!
man this 3 part series is better then official documentaries on this same subject
The Trilogy is now complete.
Very enjoyable! Thank you so much! ❤️💋
Your video is fantastic, and it has blown my mind that this was pulled off considering the amount of time and detail! Thank you.
Once again, an amazing job, Mr. Geek! After watching it, I think there is some truth in the adage "Music fans would be better off not meeting their heroes." I'm sure Waters lost many fans because of his attitude, not just the one he spat on.
very true
Your job is amazing! I watched all three parts, and I was surprised for a lot of things I didn't know, even being a huge fan of Pink Floyd and their history. Thank you for the awesome videos!
Great series! Thank you for doing this
Recently discovered your channel. You do an excellent job of covering details . The videos keep me drawn in and I don't lose interest. I hope you continue to get more and more exposure. These videos are full of great information. 👍👍👍👍👍
thank you
Very impressive and informative trilogy, thanks!
I saw the suggestion pop up asking if Bob was the right choice. I had never thought about that before. But I liked their music so much that when it was released I felt moved by the film, and after that I couldn’t imagine someone else playing the part. I think it was the right choice.
Thank you. I love this movie and was very happy to see the 3rd part of your series. Well done.
The Anzio bridgehead was held for the price of a few hundred ordinary lives. When the tigers broke free might be the most intensely emotional song ever made. My eyes still grow damp to remember his majesty signing with his own rubber stamp. Fucking mind blowing.
This is so amazingly done, I thoroughly enjoyed watching all 3 parts. Nicely done man
This is an outstanding accomplishment.Thank you!
This was a fantastic series! You should be super proud of this achievement! I'd love to see more deep-dives with other classic albums.
Watched all three parts. Very well done. The insight and production are. Very good. I'm impressed at the work done for a relatively small channel.
Dude, you're amazing! Tuned into your channel because of the first part of this series and have been binging your videos since. Keep on keeping on man, you're really inspiring and your content is truly high quality!
I was a kid when the wall was released so I never would've got the chance to see it live. I did see Roger Waters The Wall tour in 2012 and it was PHENOMENAL! An unforgettable live experience!
I never knew about "Tigers" being THAT autobiographical...hearing that broke my heart a little, just thinking of that last line being written by a grown man...woof...
Would love to see video essays on the breakup of the Beatles similar to a series like this, covering each artist’s musical direction once the band split and their respective solo albums
hmmm, I'll see what's already out there, I feel like there must already be a documentary on their breakup
I absolutely loved this series. Thank you!!
What a GREAT JOB!!! You've done here!!! I am a HUGE!!! Pink Floyd fan and The Wall is my favorite album. You did a fantastic job telling this story!!! CHEERS, MY FRIEND!!!
Great work on these three videos. Impressive research, coupled with entertaining rendition. Many thanks. It made me discover your channel. From now on, count me as a new regular viewer.
Excellent work on all of The Wall and Animals videos. Great research, editing and presentation
I watched The Commitments recently, it's a great film with a fantastic soundtrack. Highly recommended.