i use this weapon on my beidou since she can shapshot its buff and oh boy i can clean enemies in an insane speed and holy crap her counter is over 100K for the first time
11,966 with a R5 Prototype Archiac , and 12,665 with the R1 Tidal Shadow...a 699 point difference isn't that large of a difference honestly but than you take into account that the weapons shown are a 5* R5 Archiac vs a 4* R1 Tidal than you realize the Tidal at R5 would be far stronger... the question now is if the Tidal is stronger than Dehya's Signature, Wolf, or Redhorn at R5's? At R4 it's 3,699 point difference which is pretty massive when you consider it that's just shy of 3700 damage more than an R5 Archiac no Bennett or Kazuha buffs either...
I think it's worse than all those 5* options 💀. She's not even that good with them (apart from beacon) to begin with because she only starts dealing non negligible dmg after c1
Tidal isn't better than 5* options, and it's even worse if they have refs Also, Redhorn doesn't even need refs because the passive is useless on Dehya Edit: Tidal also becomes worse when Bennett is in the team Too much atk ends up in a damage loss because there's no balance
As others have stated, tidal is mediocre. Prototype archaic is not really a great comparison for tidal other than both being craftables. Refinements mean nothing for archaic unless its passive is meaningful for the character, which due to Dehyas low base Attack to begin with it isn't since any attack buffs other than Bennet are low for her. Tidal compared to any 5 star will fall short. Wolves gravestone has 100 more base Attack (making AtK % buffs even stronger) and has around the same attack % buffs as tidal when it's conditional is met and it's a teamwide attack buff. Beacon has HP and Crit rate which at C1 Dehya becomes more important, and it also has high base Attack and attack buffs, and Crit rate is most important since it's harder to get than attack, and Dehya always requires Bennet to do non negligible damage which means attack is even less valuable on her since you will get diminishing returns. Red Horn is just a beefy stat stick. Great if you don't want to aim for refinements. Tidal is probably only the best 4 star option if you don't use serpent spine (which kind of counteracts Dehyas artifact set if you use it). But Tidal is not comparable to the 5 star options except for maybe wolves gravestone, and that's due to both being attack stat sticks. Beacon will pull ahead by a ton, and red Horn will pull ahead by a lot due to being a CD stat stick.
Dude I realized after watching the entire video that your channel's name is "Dehya Testing" 🤣. You got some immense dedication in you. Keep it up. And btw with Furina's kit revolving around HP gain and loss and buffing team accordingly, s maybe Dehya will become a even stronger unit as a core part of her team. If you plan on pulling Furina, make sure to try then on a single team.
Her signature weapon is good, I got 25k damage each punch, 27k if she crit, but for who dont have her signature, fontaine weapon is good enough too. I like played her at open map, the enemy doesnt quickly die. I can hear the bang ost more 😂
i hope so (they can easily fix her by just increasing her burst duration and not making her burst remove the elemental skill off the ground as of now Dehya doesnt even synergize with her own kit i really wish they will buff her she's a 5 star that performs less than 90% of the 4 stars, i only use her cause i like her character and man i love characters that literally punch their enemies
@@trollsinpiedad6431 here's the thing... her burst only counts as one singular ongoing attack instead of multiple triggerable attack which also why her burst stops when you jump and why it's hard to reposition during her burst.
Cool showcase my fellow Dehya player. Question, is your Sucrose and Xangling C6? And do you have much energy problems because I now run her on Favonius Greatsword to solve that.
Xiangling C6, Sucrose is only c2. I do not usually run into energy problems, since my team usually funnels it into her ( I dont ult off CD though, but close enough ). But if I do , favonius is the only weapon I found that alleviates that issue. Even with Emblem set, I found that I require too much ER to maintain her burst without a funnel, so I just use the funnel anyway.
My lv 40 c0 dehya with weapon sacrificial greatsword and marachausse hunter teamed with C3 furina mona and C6 Bennet does the same damage as this. That means she will be doing way more when I get her 90 with talent lvl 9
Sucks that i don't have C1 on Dehya. Otherwise, i would craft that Claymore for her. And i would still need to farm a decent Vourukasha's Glow Set for her, too. Currently, she has Sea Lord and Emblem with 60 CR and 130 CD.
vourukasha is a very minimal increase over emblem so i wouldnt recommend farming it. also having c1 dehya does not at all affect the viability of this weapon you should make it anyways
@@leovu8500 I guess. However, Furina should be able to boost the Damage by alot and should trigger the Vourukasha's Passive more easily. However, is this Claymore at R1 already as good as R5 Sea-Lord? Or do i need to refine it?
@@sekirothegreatshinobi2332 r5 sealord is better than r5 shadow if you play her with bennett but if you dont r5 shadow is better. since you have r5 sealord already i dont see a reason to craft it
my issue with deyha is not really her low dammage but ER, I still play her with emblem set, when I do play with her own set artefacts my ER decrease a lot and even dammage don't really increase so much... I'm even putting ER sand to get 200+% ER, I have her also C1 but I think it's her C2 or C4 that correct her ER issue, remind me pls ?
Yea, there is a big misconception here. Dehya needs energy funneled into her. She actually doesn't generate alot for herself. In fact I should do a video on this. But essentially. Your particle generation is lower than other pyro units, while having a high costing burst. If you try using your e only, your not going to have a 100% uptime. You need a extra source regeneration, like another pyro, or raiden/ traveler. Alternatively, you can choose a favionus weapon on any of your other characters, and you should be fine, if you know how to use rotations
Mono pyro Dehya doesnt have this issue which is why I main that team, you have to build her crit damage/crit rate tho, not burgeon. She does hit hard at C1 with Benny C6, XL C6 and Kaz buff, mine is hitting for 38k a punch, últing on cooldown everytime cause pyro particles are plenty in this team, I have 160ER by substats and emblem set which does help. Big plus of this team is that her ult is meaningful (burgeon you don't even have to do her ult, in fact, letting it rock completely, loses you dps lol). And she is the on field DPS in this team, as in, she is the one with the most on field time, fun af and very strong, clears abyss 12 9* no problems if you are wondering.
As a c6 Dehya haver with 180 ER with emblem and 140 ER with the new set i can tell you the trade off is not worth it to go for the new set. At c6 she is a viable dps but only if her burst is up 100% of the time in the abyss and even at 180 sometimes I'm not quite there but its enough to use her as a hypercarry and 36*. I could probably clear with the new set and lower ER but there's no chance it clears faster since I rely on my burst damage and not my E damage.
You want a damage build? Go for 4pc emblem (unless you have c4 or c6) with er/pyro/crit (atk or hp are also viable or better depending on her constellations) and an atk or crit weapon (don't use serpent spine because her kit doesn't have synergy with the passive) You want a support build? Go for 4pc tenacity with full hp and the bell, because it's currently the only hp claymore afaik
I am a dehya main and i pulled her on her banner. Firstly, Dehya's kit is very bad in general. She is stuck between being a support and being a dps, so she can't perform neither of them greatly. I use her in mono pyro team with bennett kazuha xl and she hits 25k punches but it's not enough. She also needs very high energy, at least %160. Meanwhile Hu Tao doesn't need any of these and hits 50+ k charged attacks. This makes her very bad in comparison with other dps units like Lyney, Hu Tao and even Yanfei.
@@yaemirkoDehya outperforms Hu Tao DPS on AoE floors tho, with múltiple enemies I finish floor faster with Dehya mono pyro than with Hu Tao. Hu Tao melts bosses tho. Those are my two mains. Thankfully there are always single target floor and múltiple enemy floors. Dehya huge range on her attacks is an underlooked aspect of her kit, just because she can't surpass 50k a hit...
@@alexferrier5732 i think furina will be a huge upgrade for both dehya and hu tao, i am looking forward to use her. also dehya is more fun to use than some of the other dps characters
If Dehya is hitting 13k a punch unbuffed, and she punches 11 times, she is hitting 143k per ult, she is not falling that far behind then, either your Ayaka numbers were wrong, or you ought to give Dehya some crédit now, she performs well, not top tier but well.
So? You need a healer for that weapon Don't pay attention to the overload damage, just look at the pyro damage and you'll see the dmg difference with prototype
1:51 even if it just 10% damage PER hit, the TOTAL bonus damage given after whole burst round are must be around 80%. A big difference. How if you melt or vape it? It would be 80% * 2 = 160% damage increase. If with benny boy..? If with Kazuha Viridescent-4 set ..?
i use this weapon on my beidou since she can shapshot its buff and oh boy i can clean enemies in an insane speed
and holy crap her counter is over 100K for the first time
I actually never thought of using it. Thanks for testing it out!
The first time I seee that weapon I think un she
11,966 with a R5 Prototype Archiac , and 12,665 with the R1 Tidal Shadow...a 699 point difference isn't that large of a difference honestly but than you take into account that the weapons shown are a 5* R5 Archiac vs a 4* R1 Tidal than you realize the Tidal at R5 would be far stronger... the question now is if the Tidal is stronger than Dehya's Signature, Wolf, or Redhorn at R5's? At R4 it's 3,699 point difference which is pretty massive when you consider it that's just shy of 3700 damage more than an R5 Archiac no Bennett or Kazuha buffs either...
Ig its not better than her sig bcz it increases atk by 40% gives crit rate and has a higher base atk than it
I think it's worse than all those 5* options 💀.
She's not even that good with them (apart from beacon) to begin with because she only starts dealing non negligible dmg after c1
Tidal isn't better than 5* options, and it's even worse if they have refs
Also, Redhorn doesn't even need refs because the passive is useless on Dehya
Edit: Tidal also becomes worse when Bennett is in the team
Too much atk ends up in a damage loss because there's no balance
As others have stated, tidal is mediocre.
Prototype archaic is not really a great comparison for tidal other than both being craftables. Refinements mean nothing for archaic unless its passive is meaningful for the character, which due to Dehyas low base Attack to begin with it isn't since any attack buffs other than Bennet are low for her.
Tidal compared to any 5 star will fall short. Wolves gravestone has 100 more base Attack (making AtK % buffs even stronger) and has around the same attack % buffs as tidal when it's conditional is met and it's a teamwide attack buff.
Beacon has HP and Crit rate which at C1 Dehya becomes more important, and it also has high base Attack and attack buffs, and Crit rate is most important since it's harder to get than attack, and Dehya always requires Bennet to do non negligible damage which means attack is even less valuable on her since you will get diminishing returns.
Red Horn is just a beefy stat stick. Great if you don't want to aim for refinements.
Tidal is probably only the best 4 star option if you don't use serpent spine (which kind of counteracts Dehyas artifact set if you use it).
But Tidal is not comparable to the 5 star options except for maybe wolves gravestone, and that's due to both being attack stat sticks.
Beacon will pull ahead by a ton, and red Horn will pull ahead by a lot due to being a CD stat stick.
Archaic isn't 5 star
Dude I realized after watching the entire video that your channel's name is "Dehya Testing" 🤣. You got some immense dedication in you. Keep it up.
And btw with Furina's kit revolving around HP gain and loss and buffing team accordingly, s maybe Dehya will become a even stronger unit as a core part of her team. If you plan on pulling Furina, make sure to try then on a single team.
Her signature weapon is good, I got 25k damage each punch, 27k if she crit, but for who dont have her signature, fontaine weapon is good enough too. I like played her at open map, the enemy doesnt quickly die. I can hear the bang ost more 😂
She is my support for lisa the overload help everytime killing enemy weak to pyro
I just got her as my first 5 star
My first 50/50 5 star🎉
Reroll
I heard indirect and unofficial news about dehya's dmg will increase and her kits will rework in the coming versions
i hope so (they can easily fix her by just increasing her burst duration and not making her burst remove the elemental skill off the ground
as of now Dehya doesnt even synergize with her own kit
i really wish they will buff her she's a 5 star that performs less than 90% of the 4 stars, i only use her cause i like her character and man i love characters that literally punch their enemies
@@ozoahameg3582They should let her proc yelans and xingqiu burst, that was purposefully about not letting her use those ultimates
@@trollsinpiedad6431 here's the thing... her burst only counts as one singular ongoing attack instead of multiple triggerable attack which also why her burst stops when you jump and why it's hard to reposition during her burst.
I believe in you bro
aint that illegal? unless its a buff sure but rework no
Cool showcase my fellow Dehya player. Question, is your Sucrose and Xangling C6? And do you have much energy problems because I now run her on Favonius Greatsword to solve that.
Xiangling C6, Sucrose is only c2. I do not usually run into energy problems, since my team usually funnels it into her ( I dont ult off CD though, but close enough ). But if I do , favonius is the only weapon I found that alleviates that issue. Even with Emblem set, I found that I require too much ER to maintain her burst without a funnel, so I just use the funnel anyway.
you need healer cuz dehya have passive to heal herself
but you need to be at low hp all the time so it could be dificult with that 40k+ hp
Any thoughts on using Golden troupe for off-field Dehya..?
My lv 40 c0 dehya with weapon sacrificial greatsword and marachausse hunter teamed with C3 furina mona and C6 Bennet does the same damage as this.
That means she will be doing way more when I get her 90 with talent lvl 9
bro youre rich on billets i still cant even get a friggin claymore and catalyst billets
Hmm no bad. The claymore is pretty.. pretty too😅 Gotta build one to have fun.
Sucks that i don't have C1 on Dehya. Otherwise, i would craft that Claymore for her. And i would still need to farm a decent Vourukasha's Glow Set for her, too. Currently, she has Sea Lord and Emblem with 60 CR and 130 CD.
vourukasha is a very minimal increase over emblem so i wouldnt recommend farming it. also having c1 dehya does not at all affect the viability of this weapon you should make it anyways
@@leovu8500 I guess. However, Furina should be able to boost the Damage by alot and should trigger the Vourukasha's Passive more easily. However, is this Claymore at R1 already as good as R5 Sea-Lord? Or do i need to refine it?
@@sekirothegreatshinobi2332 r5 sealord is better than r5 shadow if you play her with bennett but if you dont r5 shadow is better. since you have r5 sealord already i dont see a reason to craft it
@@leovu8500 Ok, i was just wondering. Because, the Passive of that Weapon is pretty good, but i wasn't sure how it would compare to Sea-Lord at R5.
have you tried the Akuoumaru?
I subscribe because i owned dehya
this weapon might also be good for Kaveh right?
I assume so. Personally, I think it might be less valuable than mailed flower. But it should still be a decent alternative
my issue with deyha is not really her low dammage but ER, I still play her with emblem set, when I do play with her own set artefacts my ER decrease a lot and even dammage don't really increase so much... I'm even putting ER sand to get 200+% ER, I have her also C1 but I think it's her C2 or C4 that correct her ER issue, remind me pls ?
Yea, there is a big misconception here. Dehya needs energy funneled into her. She actually doesn't generate alot for herself. In fact I should do a video on this.
But essentially. Your particle generation is lower than other pyro units, while having a high costing burst. If you try using your e only, your not going to have a 100% uptime. You need a extra source regeneration, like another pyro, or raiden/ traveler. Alternatively, you can choose a favionus weapon on any of your other characters, and you should be fine, if you know how to use rotations
Try using the inazuma craftable claymore, it generate energy even when deyha not on field, also it's er sub stat good for emblem set.
Mono pyro Dehya doesnt have this issue which is why I main that team, you have to build her crit damage/crit rate tho, not burgeon. She does hit hard at C1 with Benny C6, XL C6 and Kaz buff, mine is hitting for 38k a punch, últing on cooldown everytime cause pyro particles are plenty in this team, I have 160ER by substats and emblem set which does help. Big plus of this team is that her ult is meaningful (burgeon you don't even have to do her ult, in fact, letting it rock completely, loses you dps lol).
And she is the on field DPS in this team, as in, she is the one with the most on field time, fun af and very strong, clears abyss 12 9* no problems if you are wondering.
As a c6 Dehya haver with 180 ER with emblem and 140 ER with the new set i can tell you the trade off is not worth it to go for the new set. At c6 she is a viable dps but only if her burst is up 100% of the time in the abyss and even at 180 sometimes I'm not quite there but its enough to use her as a hypercarry and 36*. I could probably clear with the new set and lower ER but there's no chance it clears faster since I rely on my burst damage and not my E damage.
I must build that weapon since I had C1 recently😁 and C1 DMG is equal to her HP😁
What is that bubble that sometimes comes out and then explodes dealing damage?
Inazuma Healer set (forgot name...) x4 bonus
Ocean-hued clam artifact set effect, converts extra healing above max HP into physical damage when the bubble pops
Kokomi,Barbara and qiqi artifact set:ocean hued clam. Very underrated set that’s nuts for characters that only heal
ocean hued clam
heals more
heal makes bubble
bubble goes boom
Is r5 tidal shadow better than Wolf grave stone?
Probablemente no, pero es una exelente opción f2p
obviously not
Why kuki and not Bennet? Healing and attack bonus
I try to avoid Bennett, as he biases character showcases.
Is this an f2p weapon from event or not?
I have dehya and she isn’t build I need to build her
You want a damage build? Go for 4pc emblem (unless you have c4 or c6) with er/pyro/crit (atk or hp are also viable or better depending on her constellations) and an atk or crit weapon (don't use serpent spine because her kit doesn't have synergy with the passive)
You want a support build? Go for 4pc tenacity with full hp and the bell, because it's currently the only hp claymore afaik
Why people say this char are the worst 5 star ever ? I dont get it.. please explain to me
I am a dehya main and i pulled her on her banner. Firstly, Dehya's kit is very bad in general. She is stuck between being a support and being a dps, so she can't perform neither of them greatly. I use her in mono pyro team with bennett kazuha xl and she hits 25k punches but it's not enough. She also needs very high energy, at least %160. Meanwhile Hu Tao doesn't need any of these and hits 50+ k charged attacks. This makes her very bad in comparison with other dps units like Lyney, Hu Tao and even Yanfei.
shitty scaling, high cd, low damage overall, cant use xinq/yelan/beidou lol. Im greatful for getting qiqi over this dogshit character lol
@@yaemirkoDehya outperforms Hu Tao DPS on AoE floors tho, with múltiple enemies I finish floor faster with Dehya mono pyro than with Hu Tao. Hu Tao melts bosses tho. Those are my two mains. Thankfully there are always single target floor and múltiple enemy floors. Dehya huge range on her attacks is an underlooked aspect of her kit, just because she can't surpass 50k a hit...
@@alexferrier5732 i think furina will be a huge upgrade for both dehya and hu tao, i am looking forward to use her. also dehya is more fun to use than some of the other dps characters
Yep, furina will make dehya great. Big speculation furina kit focus on off field constant hydro damage.
Meanwhile ayaka hitting 140k per full ult without any buffs
Ok dude we get it wowwww ayaka op etc etc
If Dehya is hitting 13k a punch unbuffed, and she punches 11 times, she is hitting 143k per ult, she is not falling that far behind then, either your Ayaka numbers were wrong, or you ought to give Dehya some crédit now, she performs well, not top tier but well.
Plus, I prefer to play sexy pyro kitty Dehya hitting lower numbers anyday than to play that big forehead Q bot child ayaka 🙂
nah I'm just gonna stick with using her as pyro application, build's easier anyway
now try doing it again but with bennett.
Why? Everyone uses Benny, he might as well be a core mechanic at this point.
@@alexferrier5732 to buff her attk, i've dehya and she does 6-9k per punch on using her with benny, normally she does just 3-4k per punch.
@@alexferrier5732FR, even more that C6 was starting to have use.
Sorry but she needs a buff if there is 3 stars character it will be her her dmg is so bad... she is so weak and at c1
You used kuki, while showing the fontaine weapon, but not used it while showing normal weapon
To trigger the passive
Bruh
So?
You need a healer for that weapon
Don't pay attention to the overload damage, just look at the pyro damage and you'll see the dmg difference with prototype
1:51
even if it just 10% damage PER hit,
the TOTAL bonus damage given after whole burst round are must be around 80%. A big difference.
How if you melt or vape it? It would be 80% * 2 = 160% damage increase.
If with benny boy..?
If with Kazuha Viridescent-4 set ..?
it doesnt work that way... its still a 10% total dmg increase. did u fail 3rd grade math or smth 💀
Bro 💀
whats up with the trash music ? did u lose a bet or something ?
finally found the Dehya main's coping channel
Do you feel ashamed?
😅😅😅😅 i thought everybody hated her where are all those haters😅😅😅
What Is this shit?dehya 111% Er baaahahahahahha
Bro the point of the vid isn't that💀
@@SharkedONman those weapons are shit....any 4 star weapon in the Banner Is better of that shit,if u use Bennet u don t Need that weapon
she still dont deal any damage