Manjul Bhargava, Steven Strogatz, Matt Brown and Lynn Sherr - The Infinite Mind
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2016
- On January 16, 1913, the world-renowned mathematician G. H. Hardy received nine spectacular pages of mathematical theorems from an unknown, self-taught Indian student named Srinivasa Ramanujan.
“It was scarcely possible to believe,” said Hardy. “They must be true because, if they were not true, no one would have the imagination to invent them.”
Where does mathematical genius originate and what does it tell us about the human mind? Join us for “The Infinite Mind: Exploring Mathematical Genius,” as we explore these and related themes with mathematicians Manjul Bhargava and Steven Strogatz, together with Matt Brown, director of The Man Who Knew Infinity, a new film about Ramanujan to be released in April, starring Jeremy Irons and Dev Patel.
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Very well said by Manjul Bhargava-"Talent can be found any where"!
But we need more Hardys to recognize more Ramanujans.
Can you give the time stamp please
@@zorah1112 11:56
@@Joe.stan2015 Ramanujan is here But Where is Hardy ?
As they say, Boswells are rarer than Johnsons.
they are being humble, you dont get even one Ramanujan type genius in 10 centuries, he had much more raw genius than any other genius you know
Manual bhargav almost looks like Ramanujan.And most of all their sector is same, they both have worked on number theory.its amazing.
I like he did Namaste to everyone.!!!
Tu zinda 😂
The first talk show that I watched, till the end without skipping....... GENIUS S. RAMANUJAN
As an Indian. It takes energy for self-control to not be overwhelmed by ethnic pride. Silly mild Chauvinism.
love love Self-control that we desperately need now in this period of what will be part of our history..
No need to hold the pride. Ofcourse not
Contrary to the other comments, I don't think the moderator did such a bad job. Having conversations like this in the public is very important and I think she made a great effort to connect with the panel members. It should be noted that these kinds of conversations are HARD because it's easy to get lost down a line of questioning that no one connects to.
Yes! She did a fantastic job!
I am a professional physicist with a large mathematics education and I was pleasantly surprised by her questions especially after reading your comments.
manjul is pretty cool.
yeah, I knew him when I lived in Princeton. Very sweet!
i just fell in love with maths all over again!!!!!!!!
Ramanujan's work in just the last year of his life is considered the greatest life time work of a great mathematician AND RAMANUJAN WAS ONLY 32...when he died...
Prem Prasad IKR???
Tyko Brian what IKR ?? be clear!!
***** We are discussing one of the greatest mathematician of 20th century here.... Pejorative comments have no place here...
Usage of words differ in different parts of the world and I don't subscribe to internet lexicon!!
I choose not to respond to your comments beyond this...
But you welcome most certainly to start a chat on mathematicians..We can have a lively discussion..
loved the discussion...great Ramanujan
how I wish, we had access to such videos (even once a month) during my childhood. would have stirred a lot of interest in Math. Great teachers who can explain complex issues in an easy to understand format... their work should be made accessible to all
Extraordinay analysis for a supreme movie depicting an alien intelligence ... Beautiful
She did a good job she asked relevant question which a layman like me would understand also she asked the connection of classical Indian music and Sanskrit. Burka dutt wuld have never asked.
Devi Vinod burka wears Bhurkha.🤣🤣
@@KarthikKarthik-db9zc Burka Dutt would have asked how they could have "smash Brahmanical Patriarchy" of Ramanujan
but manjul bhargava has a interview on NDTV in which pranoy roy asks questions about that and also Manjul has even explained the connection there and it was indeed "elegant"
Fantastic program.....
Steven Strogatz impressed me a lot. Thanks YT and 92nd street Y.
Steven is a favorite for teaching me a few things of which I had zero comprehension. Thank you!
Strogatz has a atwitter account and he often writes on the NY Times about Mathematics.
Lynn..Credit goes to you..great job for taking out the best in the simplest way from such a brilliant panel.. 'elegant' :)
great discussion ... on abstract and very personal levels ... and humorous at times as well.
Whole no means integer positive or negative
People in India should watch the movie and know about the geniuses India produce I don't think Indians know much about S.Ramanugan
Ramanujan is quite famous in India and is an inspiration for almost all mathematical minded people that I know. I remember studying the life of Ramanujan in my 6th std class or at about 11 years age - an impressionable period for wannabe young mathematicians (not me).
The irony is india doesn't produce these geniuses. In fact the indian school system is damaging the talent of potential geniuses, because of the robotic teaching in all subjects, not just in math. Thats a problem worldwide but its especially heavy in countrys like china and india with huge populations. Manjul Bhargava mentioned it all the time, I dont get it why people can be still proud of their country with all these critics from great minds, its like they want to be oblivious.
She legit just watched beautiful mind and rain man and thought it was enough prep lmfao
This was so beautiful
Already listened to this " Enlightened Discourses " about Sriniwas Ramanujan, who knew " INFINITY " ?
Thank you for bringing such massive brain power in to a single frame.
just loved it. Superb.....
This video is most satisfying video on UA-cam.
Ramanujan would have surpassed Euler if he lived for another 32 years
He already did surpass him... His mock theta function is just something else... Also more than 3000 theorems.
@@einzelganger7744 well if you talk about applications and mathematical achievements, Euler is by far the most celebrated mathematician of all time.
@@sagivijayaramaraju1153 Do you think that Euler can come with partition functions formula ?Euler is not smart as Ramanujan.Ramanujan is by far the greatest mathematician of all time. Euler had decent education but Ramanujan didn't. Ramanujan had learned mathematics by himself unlike Euler.
@Leonhard Euler did you see the conditions he lived in? how and where he grew up? he didn't have ink or pages to write down his thoughts and you are here comparing mathematicians. All of them are great mathematicians and have done great work in their respective fields.
@Leonhard Euler I am not emotional for being Indian, I have my own calculations as to why Ramanujan is the greatest
This is not tabela, its a Thavil, naadhaswaram, what an elegant video this one, with elegant discussions
thank you for your exemplary contribution , now kindly fuck off
@@jake_runs_the_world lmao
Manjul looks pretty cool in the beard.
Levinson is the father of the Levinson Durbin algorithm of 1949. The Levinson Durbin Algorithm , the Levinson - Durbin algorithm is used for solve Yule - Walker equations ie Solve Toeplitz matrix problems. I first studied the original Levinson-Durbin (1949) as a MTech student at IIT Bombay.
Why, in the film, was Ramanujan made to sit through an undergraduate course when it is not mentioned in the book.
Why did he have to attend a course on Maxwell's equations?. The scene is only a few seconds but any maths graduate of my generation (I graduated 1969) would have recognised the symbols. I am sure he would also have found a way to incorporate the mathematics into his own work but there does not seem to be any evidence of this. However, I have to say I am being rather pedantic since I very much enjoyed the film.
Professor Bhargava is quite critical of maths education. I feel that as well as the emphasis on rote learning, another one of the failures of most mathematics education at every level is the lack of context. In particular who devised the theorems we are taught, how and why? Did they have reservations? For example, why did Cantor go mad? How many undergraduates have heard that story? In this context, I find the youtube site is providing a useful resource for the curious student.
Is there any material available to know about this? I am reviewing my calculus course and came to know about Georg Cantor. To my utter dismay, I have never heard about Cantor or Abel. Prof Bhagava is not far from truth when he criticised the modern education system. The system needs to be completely overhauled, ASAP.
Ramanugum was born Erode. my nearest my district.. Karur..he is favorite. Temple.. Namakal..Anuman temple.. And also kodumudi..it is center of Erode,Namakal, karur..one more.. Genius.. Coming.... ...
Soon....he waiting..
Time and space......
My favorite too
Ruman-juan.... Rumanu-jan seriously!
Thankyou...Brilliant...
When will we see Hardy ramanujam temple in kumbkonum
Not at all boring discussions :-)
I loved it so much
U r the great mathematican in the world......
mark basis system should be abolished.....collaboration instead of competition....
Ramanujan--great pride to India and great path for world
I have created my own way of processing data and info. I am now writing about multiverse theorems.
Couldn't they get a moderator who wouldn't bungle the name from the start by saying 'Rama-Ju-an'?
I hear as "MAN JEWEL" and I think that's very cool
Thumbs up Thumbs up!
Ramanujam My Idol
Someone who can prove the unimaginable - mathematician, sure, but someone who can prove whatever he wants is a statistician!
And people wonder why women aren't going into STEM fields. Lynn Sherr did a great job of jumping into a subject matter in which she is clearly no expert. New flash, guys: most people don't get mathematics. I'm pretty dismayed by the number of comments against the female moderator with virtually no real discussion on the subject matter or the participants. What I'm taking away from this video is that Manjul and Steven are rock stars and I'm going to be digging deeper into the youtube vault to learn more about them. Thanks Hollywood!
Fake UA-cam Channel Name lol why did you have to drag a whole gender into this.
@@TykoBrian7 well, since you did, watch Hidden Figures. The movie.
What are prime numbers the decider of pattern analysis.
Most patterns are gaps of prime.
Two unique prime meet to give a particular dimension. Something like 11 and 13. But 15 is a closer relative of 11 and 13.
A 3000 is a stripped version of 11 & 13. Showing duality of nature.
Ramanujan could have been the greatest mathematician ever period
Ramanujan was an avatar.
sanch Sanchayan haha that would be the only cogent explanations for his genius.
infact is correct .
Maybe.
It is Mirudangangam? 38:10
Physics_rabbi mrudangam
I thot too its mirudangam
It's thavil, not mridangam.
He was an unsung hero
but why we never study anywork of Ramanujan's formula in any topics in textbook?
Because most of them are really advanced and we don't understand many.
Because leftists dont want us indian to know our potential
Arvind Gopal Kuch bhi bolega chutiye? your tiny brain can never comprehend what ramanujan did and what the fuck are you saying ?? doesn't even make sense .
Ritwik Raj chutiya tu hai , we learned about Ramanujan numbers and his works in my school curriculum in south . We write Ramanujan Maths talent tests every year . Every science fair will have some projects which depicts Ramanujan works. It is your little brain which cant comprehend his works .
Wow ramanujan number , ramanujan talent test and what was it ? projects , and doing this makes you think you know about ramanujan's work? really ? lemme me tell you these are nothing but tiny gimmicks bro ! and as far as my brain is concerned I study maths at princeton , and here is a advice reach my level first and then talk to me .
48:40 Caught having coffee, embarrassed, which is reinforced by the lady looking that way.
haha
India number one man ✌🏽👍🏽
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5. Conquering this universe. Or in Vedic knowledge, reconquering what already has been conquered but in a new light, finding with it golden nuggets of art of math that became art, or art that became mathematic, re-engineer universe. Find new ways to complexify new VR's for the next generation of universes.
6. Quantum Mechanics like any other new but tougher to solve puzzle/problem/challenge/opportunity is part of evolution or exciting new ways to cosmic orgasms.
there is only one correct way to say the name ramanujan. while it's not difficult to do so, it can be somewhat difficult to represent its pronunciation unambiguously in english script.
not surprisingly, tamil has its own script, as does nearly every south indian language; that script is radically different from that of english.
every tamil sound cannot be represented perfectly in english script. for a non-tamilian to pronounce the name ramanujan correctly, s/he might listen to a tamilian say it, and become familiar with it.
here, the problem arises mainly because there is no way to differentiate between *long* and *short* vowel sounds in english script as there is in tamil script.
if one codes the long 'a' as 'A' (as in the words 'park' and 'far,' the short 'a' as 'a' (without change, as in 'arise' and 'abet'), and the short 'u' as 'u' (without change, as in 'put'), a proper coding of ramanujan's name in english writing would be:
rAmAnujan.
while incorrect pronunciation can be jarring, tamilians and other indians should take heart; according to my informal observations over many years, the frequency of mispronunciation of non-western names in the u.s. appears to be negatively correlated with the per-capita gdp of the country of origin of the name.
Great post!
lol she had the pronunciation right but switched to the wrong one lol.
Not just his equations, his name too isnt understood even after 100 years.
@8:12 "every whole number can be expressed by multiplication of prime"
Wrong statement
Sahi hai statement
jai ho
Ramanujan had Goddess speak through him- the Divine mother of Intuition - its a difficult concept for a Westerner to grasp but for us in India- intelligence ends where intuition begins. And that intuition controls the intelligence in us , just like the intelligence controls the mind in us and the mind controls the physical in us. It's just that we haven't yet been able to pole vault ourselves beyond from just being intelligent. Ans we don't accept anything beyond that barrier. Unfortunate.
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the class of manjul is far far above people sitting beside him.
Yes, he can really really appreciate the genius of Ramanujan and convey it to average people.
didnt get the point of strogatz to be there
Why he is saying -1,-2,-3...as whole no.as far as I know whole no is....0,1,2,3.....if I wrong plz any correct me
Whole number means integer positive or negative
Exactly. He is wrong.
Maybe whole as in complete or total numbers.. Wonder what complex number means
Idiot he means whole number (all numbers including negative positive prime coprime etc everything about number theory) not whole number W € {0,I} . Have a bit of sense before getting into sucu kind of videos 🤣
If u guys really study the advance mathematics , u would know that there is no term called "whole numbers" in mathematics...this term is Just taught in indian school..u would be more surprise to know that natural no includes 0
All is mind. There is nothing but mind. The mind is infinite, creative and eternal. The mind never shuts off, even in sleep and at death. You can not experience non-existence. Try it. Imagine it, if you will. You will still exist while you perform this experiment.
You are eternal always, but you experience yourself through the finite which is neither a mirror nor a projection, by the way. The finite is a boundary. A hard fast boundary. The finite is a subset within the infinite in which contrast and choice create boundaries. You do not stuff the infinite into the finite. The finite is an experience inside of the mind. The eternal at play. Playing with contrast by placing boundaries and applying meanings.
You can even create a game inside of your mind in which you imagine that you are outside of your mind. You then experience life happening to you. Things which are separate from you. Meaning is thrust upon you. You believe that you have fallen and you must pay a karmic debt. That you are a soul, or perhaps a spirit which is forced to learn lessons and grow through struggle. You can even believe that you are unworthy.
Yet, you have enormous value. You possess a certificate of authentication, as all things of value do as well. Your unique thumbprint and DNA sequence is your certificate of authenticity. You are a one of a kind and priceless. Your natural authentic self. Feel that.
All that is experienced is imagined from care. You were made from care. And it is care which holds you in focus for the purpose of experiencing this timebound meaningful experience in a finite world inside of your mind.
If you don't mind then it don't matter. But if you care, and it matters much to you, then it will become an experience in matter. It is this care that is the force that shapes your world. If you care. If someone cares for you.
If you want to experience peace, create a boundary for peace inside your infinite mind, give it the meaning of peace, give it space, allow it to just be. Care about peace.
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Srinivasa Ramanujan 1,2....n
This might be a stupid question but... many of us who have studied science would agree that isaac newton is much more brilliant than all of us, even scientists agree with it. But even a 15-18yr student in this time knows more than newton did, we know all his laws of motion and even extra stuff he didnt/couldnt explain(eg wave nature of light). This is why it is said that IQ increases noticeably each generation... so by this analogy could we also say that people like manjul bhargawa... may indeed due to being 2 generations later to ramanujan is better / more intelligent than him?
there's a difference between inventing the laws of classical mechanics and learning about it...people do the latter while newton did the former...so "even a 15-18yr student in this time knows more than newton did, we know all his laws of motion and even extra stuff he didnt/couldnt explain" is a BS statement
@Ultimate Game not really, mathematics(therefore physics) is an invention. It's how humans perceive and predict nature. A hypothetical alien species may perceive nature some other way. There's no predefined law/rule that u can *discover*.
and what about games logo ke subway surfer and temple run
The movie director portrayed Shri Ramanujans mother in a bad light.
Yeah
Technically, infinity is nothingness, so an 'infinite mind' is not really a compliment (since you are saying he does not have a mind!) (exclamation point just to lighten things up) (imagine the dourness without one)...
who the hell dislikes it?
Wtf mahatma gandhi picture doing there..
😊
It is so disgusting to hear the so called expert interviewers who talk about Rama Nujan , and keep calling him rama Nujan. What a shame they don't bother to spend a minute to learn to pronounce the name of the most brilliant mathematecian's name right.
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Ramanujan is a simple story. The Brahmins in India are known to have been involved in maths, astronomy, learning, etc. since time immemorial. Example the Aryan AryaBhatta. Al-Biruni tells us that during his period Maths in India was top class. There is no white, brown, red, black, yellow, etc. race. We have the Aryans (Indo-Europeans), Semites, Turks, Negroid, Mongols, etc. The color changes due to climate. Southern Europeans Aryans, are dark like southern Iranians. Ramanujan by race was a pure Aryan since he was a Brahmin. This is the plain truth.
Gangadhar hi saktiman h
Ramanujan would have surpassed all the Nobel laureates had he lived 10 more years
You forgot to Nikola Tesla in that genius list
It's tragic that India's best brains have to live on other shores to thrive. That leaves only mediocrity and below on the Indian one.
He was the one of enlighten being , but think about what would have been in libraries of nalanda burnt by khilji.
MANJUL BHARGAVA
is this guy the reincarnation of ramanujan? yes/no
Manjul would say-NO
NO
1:23:39 A too busy brain inside a too calm body.
But I am not sure why he didn't concentrate on Fermats last theorem?
90% indian commenting
Because of their ego, jealousy
0.9 00
Is the lady dyslexic? How could she possibly pronounce his name like that?
Euler , Hardy ,.... all are Mathematicians but Ramanujan is God
The silly way the moderator butchers pronunciation of the names of Srinivasa Ramanujan and Manjul Bhargava is quite jarring to note in an otherwise pleasant interaction. I wonder why she didnt spend a mere 5 minutes before the event to just practice how to correctly pronounce the names.
In USA many people take drug. Does he take drug (Cocaine, Heroin, LSD, Charas, Ganja) ?
This interviewer is horrendous. She's so defensive of how bad she is it genuinely takes away from the interview. She gets things wrong CONSTANTLY, and has no ability to play off the answers she's getting from the people she is interviewing.
Likewise, she denigrates the people she is interviewing rather than acknowledge when they correct her. IF she would actually listen to the answers she's being given this would have been such a better interview.
Naa i think she did quite qell
Ra -ma- nu -ja -n
k3 surface
N D that is one another gem of his discoveries that most people overlook....may cause he thought when nobody was even ready to grasp.
The interviewer is not a mathematicians. The problems with interview are stupid interwievers that asks questions that nobody is interested in. Everyone wants to hear an answer to other question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ondoaae
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note how Manjul Bhargava makes his appearance @7:13
why do I say that?
keep listening ...
he then suggests that prime numbers are the atoms of the 'number theory' world.
did you know that 137 is a most meaningful coincidence?
a synchronicity in fact
137 is the 33rd prime number
it is the KEY to merging religion and science
i.e. why did the ancients encode 137 meter, 13.7 meter, 137 feet, 137 cm, into significant temples which in fact are markers?
and why did science follow and from another POV turn 137/1 upside down and make the number 1/137 mystical?
Archangel Raphael Please do not bring religion here....science is based on rationality and logic backed by experimental or observational evidence..science is self correcting and nothing ever is considered gospel truth that is out of scruitiny..
religion is founded on irrationality, blind faith..
lol lol lol
too funny
another human who fails to recognize science has become the new religion by building on/stealing the GENIUS of god fearing men.
NOTHING gives me more pleasure than using your IGNORANCE to make my point.
I shall use what inspired {god?} Newton, Leibnitz, Euler, Kepler, Einstein, and Srinivasa Ramanujan to SLAY your ignorant POV
don't be insulted by the word IGNORANT, it means ewe are unaware.
EWE means ye end up being a sheeple to science due to your ignorance.
GO AHEAD pick your favorite scientist and I will show HOW WRONG YOU ARE about the nonsense YOU promote
@@premprasad3511 you uneducated
all science is because of DHARMA
NOT RELIGION
ONLY HINDUS WERE THOSE WHO GAVE REAL KNOWLEDGE TO WORLD, DUE TO WHICH INVENTIONS TOOK PLACE, CIVILIZATION CAME
ARYABHATT IS EXAMPLE
HE WAS BRAHMAN HINDU
RELIGIONS NEVER GAVE ANYTHING EXCEPT DESTRUCTION
DHARMA GAVE EVERYTHING
@@user-uf7lx1vb8z dont talk, work more. If you talk too much blah blah no one will believe
Yappatron.
that was not a fucking tabla
What type of homework thids lady did b4 this show. She couldn't pronounce even name properly
She did well ...the name is tough to pronounce
Why he didn't get Nobel prize or any field prize if he was so genius?
Nobel is not given for Maths and Fields medal did not exist at that time.
@@pariveshplayson then he cannot be called genius.
If you say so. Gauss, Riemann, Von Neumann were not geniuses. May be you are.
@@pariveshplayson yes we had a lot of such people prior to 1904 who discovered laws but we cannot count them as genius unless they did get Nobel prize in science.
So Nobel prize is all that defines a genius to you?