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I was thinking about buying one a year ago, but never did. The one I was looking at was around $200. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find it again and link it.
@@TrickShiftGarage I have kinda looked, and people are saying to get the one that screws on at the top. Because it's a closed system, it just didn't include the line markings. I'm planning on getting one and an aftermarket pan with the drain plug.
Recently decided to do this myself on my 2014 F-150 with the 5.0. This vid was most helpful. Not gonna lie this took me a LONG time to complete. Way more than I anticipated, but it gave me a great sense of accomplishment doing it myself. I am slowly trying to become my own mechanic for as many things as possible to avoid the shops.
Hey thanks Robby, we are glad it helped! Doing maintenance yourself can save you a ton of money, which is especially important right now because of inflation. Thanks for watching and let us know if there is anything else you need help with! 🤟
Your first transmission pan drop is going to take a long time. My first was on my 04 Ram 1500 with the 545RFE transmission. Took me like 3 or 4 hours the first time. Was like 30 minutes each time afterward. Great job on learning to do your own maintenance!
Use pump fluid extractor from harbor freight to suck out most of fluid with the narrow flexible hose it comes with, this prevents leakage/spillage when dropping the pan, once pan is off suck remaining fluid in pan. The extractor has level indicator so you know exactly how much is removed and replace with new fluid. Use a 2 gallon bug sprayer from walmart or wherever and fill with correct amount of fluid, cut the plastic tip off wand. I bought a 2 foot cheap air wand at harbor freight and put it in vice, used a mapp torch to heat and bend it into a hook and I attached it to bug sprayer, it stays hooked into hole for ez refill.
You know what, i got more confident in changing it myself instead of paying hundreds of dollars for someone to do it. Thank you for this useful video. Hello from Wichita Ks.
I came across this today....totally by chance. My 4x4 F150 is being serviced for this as we speak. I understand what the mechanics were talking about when I dropped it off yesterday. Thanks!
Helpful video of yours.. I just did the trans service on my 2013 ford f150 fx4 today. 6r80 trans. I have done a lot of trans services on my vehicles over the years but this was the first for this truck. Very easy as I mentioned. Drove the truck to get the trans to 165 degrees. Lowered the pan and drained the oil. The filter came down with the pan as was expected. Cleaned the pan and magnet and wiped down the socket inside the trans where the filter fits in. This helps keep the new filter in place as you lift the clean pan with the reused Motorcraft gasket in place.. Put five qts of Mercon LV in and started the truck and shifted through the gears. Left it running and Checked the dipstick level. ( short dipstick alongside trans on the passenger side) and it was low at 145 degrees. Added another 2 qts and it is now almost up the B hashmark ( which is the full mark at 180 degrees operating temp) , again check the oil level while it is running in Park.. Going forward I will check the trans oil every time I do an oil change. By the way, I used a 3 foot flexible hose ( from a dishwasher discharge) and funnel to add the trans oil. Much easier than pumping the oil from underneath the truck..
Was there enough gravity from a funnel to feed into the tube into the trans? I'm about to do this service - I am not looking forward to filling this thing lol
Dude, if not for you and your video, I wouldn’t have known about that Dorman pan with the drain plug. We just bought a 14 Navigator that I planned on swapping all fluids out to baseline the maintenance on it. The 3X pan drop and refill transmission service will be SO much easier after dropping the OEM pan (and changing the filter of course) for the 2 subsequent drain and fills. As for the video itself, I really appreciated your positive vibe and enthusiasm. It makes for an easier to watch video. Great work! Subscribed!
@@TrickShiftGarage Hey brother, just completed the pan drop, filter change, and new pan and gasket installed. Filled it with a gallon of Valvoline maxlife followed by just shy of 2 quarts of AMSOIL Fuel Efficient (their version of low viscosity) ATF. Even though it’s only the first volley of fluid changes on this transmission, it already shifts a lot more precisely…and ironically the ‘Gator coasts easier, lol. At 140k miles, the fluid in that pan was NASTY! No big metal flakes, just that fine mush stuck on the magnet though. I’ve got just shy of 22 quarts of the AMSOIL ATF on the shelf. Going to do a drain and refill each time I fill up with the next 2 tanks of gas, then once more when I’m due for an oil change. Couldn’t have done it without your video!
I bought a 2012 Navigator a year ago and a Ford dealer was able to confirm from the V.I.N. number, that the previous owner had serviced and changed transmission fluid at the $30K mile mark, as required by warranty. I'm at the 92K miles mark now and ready to do a drain & fill very soon to confirm a maintenance baseline. I'm definitely going to buy the Dorman pan with the drain plug to make future changes easier.
Any time I do a transmission job and it does not have a drain plug I just drill a 3/8 hole in lowest part of pan to drain. Saves big on mess, then I tack weld a nut inside and install a drain plug.
Man thanks a million...... I was intimidated by the thought of this job at 1st with my own 2013 F-150 3.7 Liter with a whopping 260K miles and counting on it...
As soon as you mentioned trick shift at the beginning because I'm new to this channel it reminded me of my moroso transmission fluid that I used in my turbo hydramatic 400 back in the late seventies and it was brutal and could handle 690 horsepower naturally aspirated at the time...
That's amazing! I found out about that transmission fluid when googling our channel. Definitely an awesome transmission fluid to use in those 400's! Thanks for watching Wayne! 🤟
Thanks for the video, had some big repairs between my 2017 F150 and my wife's 2013 Explorer that I actually had to take to a shop since it was out of my scope. Glad to see this this one is fairly easy. I have around 75K on the F150 and tow fairly light loads with it constantly and wanted to get this done in the next couple of months. Then it will be onto the Explorer which doesn't look fun with the transfer case sine I have the awd model.
Yea this isn't too bad. I'll be doing an updated video for the transmission fluid, this time showing exactly how to fill it and how to tell when it's perfectly filled. Make sure you look in the description of this video as I have updated information in there. Let me know if you have any questions!
Real nice video. Lots of good camera shots. Ford really did a disservice to its customers by not having a traditional under the hood dipstick to check the fluid level. There are after market dip stick kits, but they are over $200! In one service manual, I read that the fluid level should be checked when the transmission is at normal operating temperature while running. That becomes a a hell of a task to not burn yourself on the cat converter. I think what you did was fine, If the level is at the bottom of A while cold, it should expand to the B mark when its hot.
Thank you I really appreciate the kind words! And I totally agree. A dipstick may cost them less than $1 to put in all of these trucks. I know I would gladly pay an extra dollar to have one. I think I may eventually buy the aftermarket dipstick, but I'm also having a hard time throwing $200 at it right now. Especially for something that should already be on the vehicle from the factory. Thanks for watching, we really appreciate it!
@@TrickShiftGarage Yes, this transmission requires a sealed and locking dipstick because the transmission operates under vacuum. The after market dipstick assembly cost in Canada is closer to $300, which is ridiculous. I'm sure Ford could have provided it for $20 bucks.
Couple of comments for anyone. One who wants to do their own transmission service, he used paper towels to wipe the pan out and the filter connection which isn't bad. But when after you clean the pan ideally you should use compressed air, but above all, be sure not to use rags because they deposit lint on the surfaces of things. You can't really see it but it does and that will eventually wash and get up into the filter. In addition, many of the Ford products and other manufacturers have reusable gaskets. They're usually rubber with ribs on them and they'll have metal washers embedded in them around the bolts to stop the bolt at a certain point, so never throw those away. They're reusable. Oftentimes the filter kit will give you some cheap gasket that's not designed to work the way the original one is
Got parts on the way, you made it look easy. Hoping it goes that way for me. Other videos show where 4 qts, 41/2 qts Then checking it and they are always putting more in. That had me confused, I am going to use your method, makes sense to me. I have a 2010 Ford f150 flex. With 150000 on it and just had the engine swapped, and was told I need to have my tranny serviced. Priced it and OMG expensive. I figured at that price I can get the parts, fluid, and tools for less and do it myself. My hard time is on the fluid level getting it right the first time.
So, you will need to keep filling when the transmission gets warm. I added that part to the description of the video because I didn't realize it needed to be done. You will be able to fit another quart or 2 in the transmission with it running while the fluid is warm. Let me know how it goes! 🙏
and done thanks mate 😎🤙 did it with an automatic ATF pump all 7q in less then a min went threw the gears turned it off re checked the dip stick and water pressure the undercarriage so nothing catches fire while i left it idling for 30 minutes turned it off for an hour then drove home for 1 hour everything went smoothly i was just wishing bought that same pan you got would of man life easier the next time i do the fluid change but what ever the point is that its taken care of ✌️
Excellent video and right to the point. Checking this under the vehicle? Checking it well running? Checking it next to 'hot' exhaust components? Unbelievable a so called 'engineer' would design anything this bad and even worse for Ford to manufacture it.
fyi you can cold-fill/check with it just slightly warm...fluid should just barely hit the crosshatch area. At operating temp, fluid expansion should put it 3/4 or more of the way into the crosshatch, meaning it's good to go.
Very helpful and concise video. One of the bolts at the rear of the pan was rounded and would not come off. I believe the threads of those bolts are exposed to the elements. I might try a 1/4" drive wobble extension and impact driver but if that doesn;t work I think I'm SOL.
Just did this job on my 14 f150 2 weekends ago. Take dipstick out. Use a fluid extractor, put hose in fill port and suck the fluid out first! So much easier
If you pop off a trans cooler line in the front under the radiator, you can pump out the remaining 8 quarts of old fluid by starting the truck and cycling the shift selector. Just keep topping off the transmission as you go so it does not suck dry. When it comes out bright red, you’re done.
I've been really thinking about doing a video on how to do that, but I need to do some more research. Do you know where I can find a write-up of this procedure?
It took me a few hours to change mine because I'm just slow. I thought I only needed four quarts but I ended up using seven. The truck was leveled and the engine was running when I was checking it and since I didn't drain seven quarts, I'm guessing my tranny was slipping because the fluid was low? And that aluminum foil trick was ingenious. I spilled more fluid refilling it than removing the pan thanks to the foil.
Thank you for this video! I also got the Dorman pan that you got but unfortunately almost half the bolts would not line up! We are talking maybe a mm or a fraction of, but unless you drill or file them out, the transmission pan bolts will get hung up and possibly cross thread. Unfortunately I was not in a situation where I could finagle with the pan so I ended up using the existing Ford one which is much heavier and high quality
@@TrickShiftGarage ya know. They should work for all these! It was fractionally off by a mm which for us DIY wrenchers we can “improvise” but by engineering or pro standards that’s off by a country mile! I haven’t met a mechanic face to face yet who likes Dorman. I told my good friend what happened because he used to work for Dorman as early as this past spring! He lol’d and wasn’t surprised. It’s mind boggling what comes through engineering there. If it didn’t hit it ships he said. Unreal
Yea man, I've come across quite a few people that have not had any luck with Dorman products. Which I was shocked at first because I haven't had a single issue. But, I'm going to be cautious now because a lot of people have had issues.
great video definitely took a couple notes the newer the vehicle the more work it seems makes me miss the 1986 5.0 "ghost" might have to get another one
Yea it's definitely different. Also, make sure you check the description. There is more information there on how to properly fill these transmissions (if you haven't already). Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes when you do yours! 🤟
Excellent video! Right down to the pan bolts torque specs!! As long as the trans fluid is warm and circulated by going through the gear patterns, Does the engine need to be running or just observe the A and B marks on the dip stick? Thanks for sharing!! Thanks for the Links you provided too!!! Appreciate that very much.
Hello! Yes, the engine needs to be running and you need to watch your transmission temp gauge. Once it gets up to operating temperature (this will take longer than the engine reaching normal operating temp), then you can continue to fill. The dipstick is odd. I'm not sure why there is an A or a B, but from what I've read you are better off filling it up to the top line. Once you get there, put the dipstick and cap back on, fasten it, and then you can shut the engine off. Don't shut the engine off while the dipstick and cap are off as this will cause fluid to leak out.
i noticed you replaced the oem pan with an after market with a drain plug. That makes life alot easier. Why didnt ford make it to where trans changes were as easy as oil changes?
Definitely makes it easier. Personally, I think Ford (as well as some other automakers) do this to discourage owners from doing the maintenance on their vehicles. They want people to go to the dealer. And honestly, it works for the most part. Most people don't want to spend the extra time doing it themselves, so they just take it to the dealer. But you can save a boatload of money by doing it yourself. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Khoa! We appreciate it! 🤟
It's crazy because It says that it's overfilled when cold. And when you turn it on and you check it while idling, it's barely halfways. I put a little less than six quarts
If the transmission doesn't work after you are done, then it was already broken to begin with. Changing the fluid the proper way will not ruin your transmission. You can do this! Let us know who it goes! 🤟
Awesome! Let me know how it goes! Also, make sure you look at the description of this video. I have information on how to properly fill these transmissions.
Thank you for your video…I followed step by step and yes… when I check the level engine off it was on the mark but with the engine ON and warm I add 2 litters more !!!! did I do it wright ?
Can you just use a Syphon pump to draw this out and then simply replace through the dipstick tube the same amount that you removed? I’ve done that on another transmission a few times and it was super easy to do
@@TrickShiftGarage oh ok I didn't see the drain plug. Aluminum pans usually are deeper and hold more fluid. And can dissipate heat more if towing a lot. And most have drain plugs as well. Otherwise just another expense. 😆
Hi grate video. in my case my transmition in 2 difrents times stop to make the shifts I turn off the car and after to turn on the essue go away did you think it's gonna be a enough just to change oil an filter. One " mechanic" told me it's Gonna be nesessary change the valve body, the speed sensor, to fix the problem
Hello Cesar! Sorry for the delay. With 160k miles, I would say your mechanic may be correct. You may need to rebuild part of it. However, if I was in your shoes, I would change the fluid and add in Seafoam Trans Tune first. See if that can keep the transmission clean for about 10k miles. Then change it again. That may help save it in the long run. These transmissions are built really well, so you may be ok.
@TrickShiftGarage I need to do mine it's been 300,000 Trans has 609,000 miles on it along with the motor I'm just wanting to do it myself and was wondering if at idle speed do you just leave the dip stick in when cranking the truck or should the cap be on the dip stick just wondering thanks for the video
Wow that's a lot of miles! And what I would do is fill the fluid until it starts spilling out, and then leave the cap and the dipstick in place until it gets up to operating temperature. Then, you can remove it and top off the fluid.
Hello, I’m planning on doing the tranny fluid on my 2014 F150 this fall. Great video! I have one question… did you jack the truck at all? Is it necessary to jack the truck?
I put it on ramps because I was on a slight incline. It also gave me more room underneath. I guess it's possible to do it with jack stands and/or ramps, but it would be difficult. If you use jackstands and/or ramps, just make sure your truck is level to give you an accurate reading when filling.
I saw another video where you have to replace the transmission auxiliary pump inlet tube seal after pulling off the filter. Now that I’ve seen a few other videos I don’t see this same seal on the transmission. Have you ever heard of this seal? I can’t find it in the fords part site either.
Hello Roy, I believe that's for the vehicles equipped with the start stop feature. Some Fords use an auxiliary pump to keep transmission fluid pressure up so when you release the brake pedal and the engine turns back over, you have fluid moving through your transmission immediately. This can help prevent unnecessary wear and tear from the start stop feature. Thanks for watching! 🤟
would you happen to know how to change the output shaft speed sensor my truck throws a wrench light and doesn’t wanna go below 3rd or shift above 5th i can barely find any videos on it
Thank you for the overall one of the best to date on my end an overall amazing video, definitely have my sharing support. Quick question where can I find what you used to pump the new Trans fluid back into pan?
This does not remove all the fluid, only about half. If you want to, you can do another fluid change about 10,000 miles after the first one and that should help get mostly new fluid in your transmission. Hope this helps! 🙏
Great video, incredibly helpful. Question for you guys. I have a 2013 f150 v8 5.0L. I put the front wheels on ramps, drained the pan (foil idea was clutch), cleaned it, replaced filter, put the pan back, and then pumped just shy of 6 quarts into the transmission until it started to overflow (still up on ramps). Took it off the ramps, let id idle for 15 mins, cool for 5, then checked fluid level. Why would it still be showing low? It's not even reaching the "B". I know the obvious thing is to add more fluid, but I really don't want to risk overfilling and dealing with that issue.
Definitely add more fluid. And many people have informed me you need to check and top off the fluid while the engine is running (and the transmission fluid needs to be warm). You will need heat resistant gloves as the plug is right next to the catalytic converter. Don't worry about overfilling, it's almost impossible to do that since there isn't a dipstick under the hood (it's built into the plug).
Trick of the trade, capture fluid into a measure bucket and just put the exact amount back in. We never check fluid levels when we do them lol, unless of course you suspect there is a reason to. Sweet video, thanks for helping me quickly quote this one.
2014 f-150 here. The u arm is so close to the bolts, I can't fit anything in between. There's a gigantic heat shield welded to it. It's looking like I'm going to have to drop the entire exhaust to get to the bolts. I have about an inch of clearance in between the u arm and the bolts. Any ideas?
The one I bought was from Dorman. I have a link to it in the description if you want to check it out. If it doesn't work, please let me know and I'll try to provide a different link.
I got a 2010 ford explorer sporttrac with the 4.6 3V with the 6R80 trans. Thanks for the video. Been thinking about doing this but a bit scared to try.
Hello! I used a new gasket, however that's not necessary. Ford says the gasket is reusable, so you can save some money and keep yours. I have the pump linked in the description if you are interested. Also, make sure you read the first part of the description. I updated the correct filling procedure there. I will be coming out with another video going into more detail at some point in the next month or 2. Thanks for watching! 🙏
@@TrickShiftGarage Thanks for the quick reply. I've been considering going to the dealer for all fluids but a lot of this seems doable in my driveway. Thanks for the tutorials!!!
@TrickShiftGarage ok so this may be a dumb question, but was the plastic dipstick you checked atf level with there at the end contained inside the filler bolt you removed or was it an additional purchase one needs to check fluid level?
There is no such thing as a dumb question! And yes it was inside of the bolt. This is Fords cheap method of giving us a dipstick lol. I miss the days where a transmission dipstick was located under the hood.
Sorry, that's wayyy beyond my knowledge of these vehicles lol. But when you find out please let us know. You could help someone else that needs to know too!
....... the pan that you removed and cleaned is not the pan that you installed???? tell us about that new pan ..... it has a drain plug ..... where did you buy that pan ???.... posted by Jent.
Hello Jent! You are correct, I actually made a separate video on the new pan. It's a Dorman and I got it off of Amazon. I have a link in the description for it if you are interested in one. Thanks for watching! 🤟
If you are changing it every 60k or more miles, then yes it should. The transmission pan I bought allows me to drain the fluid without taking the pan off, so I plan on draining every 30k miles, and then changing the filter every 60k. I'm not saying this is necessary, it's just what I plan on doing.
@@TrickShiftGarage I've just finished however I forgot to place the magnet back in and one of the bolts to the Pan are stripped. How important is this magnet? Ty for the clear guide!
That magnet is actually very very important. You're going to have to get it back in there. It catches all metal particles and shavings from your transmission that could clog and ruin your transmissions internals. I'm sorry brother, but that really needs to go back in there.
Honestly I have no idea. I don't want to say yes, and then you have an issue with your transmission. I'm not sure 2 weeks is long enough to cause damage, but I'm still not 100% sure either. I'm sorry man, I wish I could provide you with a better answer.
Hello Tabcobra! So this has been a topic of discussion on these videos lately. Supposedly, in order to get an accurate reading, you need to: Fill the pan until it is full. Start your engine and get the transmission up to 200+ degrees. Check the dipstick level and fill as needed. However, I personally believe this is overkill. I watched a video from Fordtechmakuloko (spell check) and he acknowledged that you do not have to wait until the trans fluid is warm or hot. He said just get the fluid up just under where it's supposed to be on the dipstick. Since the fluid expands, it will rise to the appropriate level when it's hot. This is essentially what I did when changing my fluid. A lot of people disagree with this method, however I will stick to this method for the life of the vehicle and post videos with updates on the status of the tranny. I plan on changing it every 60k miles and will make sure to include that in those videos as well. Sorry for the length of this, but I wanted to make sure I gave you every piece of information without misleading you or anyone else. Thanks for watching ! 🤟
No problem. And yes, that is correct. I will provide updates each time I change the fluid and if there are any issues. I think my transmission will be just fine though.
Hello Marathoner43! No, I did not use a gasket sealer. I did buy a new gasket for the pan, but supposedly the gaskets are reusable. As far as the bolt pattern, I just tried to go back and forth on opposite sides to ensure a snug fit.
made a mess of my transmission oil change. Now I see the video . Definitely had too much fluid in mine. Started leaking when I pulled the plug/dipstick.
Hello Tim! This is one thing I've been worried about. Some people say you need to fill it while the engine is running, but I fear they will run into issues like you. I personally don't think filling while the engine is off is a bad thing at all. As long as the fluid is at the correct level when you check the dipstick, I think you will be just fine. These transmissions are built really well, and I know a lot of owners never fill them when the engine is running.
Ford manual suggests checking with vehicle running. When I changed these I always measured the amount coming out as a guide to what goes back in. I have always had to start vehicle and check while running to get same amount of transmission fluid back in.
I'm not doubting your method, but if that was the case, I wonder why the fluid doesn't leak immediately after taking the dipstick out? It's a very strange way of filling imo. Again, I'm not doubting it. But I'm going to be a test bed for this. I'm going to change this fluid the same way in the video for the life of the truck. At least this way we will know for sure if my method will destroy a transmission or not. Thanks for watching! 🤟
@Trick Shift Garage It is a horrible design in my opinion. I bought special high temp gloves just for these vehicles. Your transmission will operate with less fluid. I am curious if you are seeing higher temperatures in transmission.
@Car Survivalist Yea it really is. I haven't seen a difference in temperature. Maybe they suggest filling when the engine is running while towing? I haven't done any towing, so I can only speculate.
Did you have the front tires of your F150 up on ramps when readding and checking the tranny fluid or was all four tires on the ground? Asking cuz I usually use ramps in the front and didn’t know if that little bit of lean from the front tires being up on ramps would make a difference on the tranny fluid level when checking it at the end
Yes, they were on ramps but I was on a slight incline too. So it was pretty level when I checked it. But you are correct. If the truck (or any vehicle for that matter) isn't level, it will give you a false reading on the dipstick.
I have 98K miles on my 2015 f150. I was going to change it. But I wonder should i "change" it or have it flushed? I hear different opinions on the flush
Hello Pete! Personally, I don't think I would ever flush. I've never had a transmission fail by just dropping the pan. I have heard people say they ruined a transmission shortly after flushing though. But that's just my opinion. Do whatever you feel is best for your truck!
hi. great video shots and awesome tips - i mean tricks! am following suit and using ur Amazon links to get parts, but was wondering if u need to put some thread locks on the pan bolts… Ford workshop manual doesn’t specify using thread locks but the torque spec listed is actually 80 lb-in, and not 98 lb-in as many seem to assume.
Hello Peace Warrior! I've heard Fords 6R140 (used in the Super Duty's) should be torqued to 80 inch lbs, however I've read the 6R80 in these trucks should be torqued anywhere between 96 and 120 inch lbs. Haynes recommends 120 inch lbs also, so that's what I would go with.
It's not that simple. You need to drop the pan, replace the filter and then begin refilling. Once it's full, you then need to start your engine and let the transmission get up to operating temperature (this will take awhile in the cold weather). Then, you can add another quart or 2. That's technically the proper way to fill these transmissions.
Hello Chuck, I'm not quite sure to be 100% honest. Some people say to change it anyway, other people say to leave it alone. I will say this, if it was my truck I would change it because I don't feel like 137,000 miles is too much. If the truck had over 200,000 miles, then that would be a different story. But that's just my opinion.
I believe so. I haven't done this service in awhile so I'm not 100% sure. I do believe the B section is at the top and that is where you want the fluid to be when it's at operating temperature with the engine running.
@@TrickShiftGaragei believe cold fill can go right to the edge of the crosshatch (B) area, where op temp expansion will put you 3/4 of the way up the crosshatch area....good to go👍🏻
Guys I need help. 2012 Ford F-150 xlt with this tranny. The first 4 bolts, closest to the engine, I cannot get out for the life of me. The angle is horrible with that exhaust pipe in the way. I used the 8mm socket with multiple extensions and on my 1/4 and 3/8 drive. Can’t get it to sit flush, it feels like I’m stripping it because of the angle. Please help me with any Advice. Now I’m out of a vehicle
@@TrickShiftGarage I literally tried everything, I had to cut the exhaust pipe right out to get to them, about a foots worth. Boom, blots came right off now. I even tried heating them up and put pb blaster on them, nothing,,,, So now ill just clamp the exhasut piece back on, what a headache!
Does anybody else have a ridiculously small amount of space between the exhaust and the 4 bolts that hold the shallow part of the pan or is it just mine? I can’t even torque to spec
I bought a new gasket, even though Ford says you can reuse the old one. I bought a new filter because you need to change the filter when you change the fluid (around every 60k miles). And I changed the pan to make draining the fluid easier in the future.
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What do you think about an aftermarket dip stick and tube?
I was thinking about buying one a year ago, but never did. The one I was looking at was around $200. When I get a chance I'll see if I can find it again and link it.
@@TrickShiftGarage I have kinda looked, and people are saying to get the one that screws on at the top. Because it's a closed system, it just didn't include the line markings. I'm planning on getting one and an aftermarket pan with the drain plug.
Interesting. I didn't know about that. Either way let me know how it goes! I would like to hear about it when you do.
Recently decided to do this myself on my 2014 F-150 with the 5.0. This vid was most helpful. Not gonna lie this took me a LONG time to complete. Way more than I anticipated, but it gave me a great sense of accomplishment doing it myself. I am slowly trying to become my own mechanic for as many things as possible to avoid the shops.
Hey thanks Robby, we are glad it helped! Doing maintenance yourself can save you a ton of money, which is especially important right now because of inflation. Thanks for watching and let us know if there is anything else you need help with! 🤟
Your first transmission pan drop is going to take a long time. My first was on my 04 Ram 1500 with the 545RFE transmission. Took me like 3 or 4 hours the first time. Was like 30 minutes each time afterward. Great job on learning to do your own maintenance!
My shop wanted $600 to do this. I think I can find time for that!
You can do it!
Use pump fluid extractor from harbor freight to suck out most of fluid with the narrow flexible hose it comes with, this prevents leakage/spillage when dropping the pan, once pan is off suck remaining fluid in pan. The extractor has level indicator so you know exactly how much is removed and replace with new fluid. Use a 2 gallon bug sprayer from walmart or wherever and fill with correct amount of fluid, cut the plastic tip off wand. I bought a 2 foot cheap air wand at harbor freight and put it in vice, used a mapp torch to heat and bend it into a hook and I attached it to bug sprayer, it stays hooked into hole for ez refill.
Great advice! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! Hopefully it helps someone! 🙏
Adding to my tools list thanks m8 doing this next weekend
which one?
Any of the holt fluid extractor, comes with narrow suction tube. I used the one that extracts and dispenses.
You know what, i got more confident in changing it myself instead of paying hundreds of dollars for someone to do it. Thank you for this useful video. Hello from Wichita Ks.
Anytime! Let us know how it goes! 🤟
You sir deserve the award of smartest man on earth.
Just changed my fluid. The tinfoil trick was amazing!
Awesome! Glad it worked for you! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! 🤟
Smarter sucking fluid out with a fluid extractor
You can, but the aluminum foil worked just fine.
I came across this today....totally by chance. My 4x4 F150 is being serviced for this as we speak. I understand what the mechanics were talking about when I dropped it off yesterday. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! 🤟
Thanks for doing it on the ground with a jack and not a lift. That's exactly how I have to do mine.
Anytime! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Helpful video of yours.. I just did the trans service on my 2013 ford f150 fx4 today. 6r80 trans. I have done a lot of trans services on my vehicles over the years but this was the first for this truck. Very easy as I mentioned. Drove the truck to get the trans to 165 degrees. Lowered the pan and drained the oil. The filter came down with the pan as was expected. Cleaned the pan and magnet and wiped down the socket inside the trans where the filter fits in. This helps keep the new filter in place as you lift the clean pan with the reused Motorcraft gasket in place.. Put five qts of Mercon LV in and started the truck and shifted through the gears. Left it running and Checked the dipstick level. ( short dipstick alongside trans on the passenger side) and it was low at 145 degrees. Added another 2 qts and it is now almost up the B hashmark ( which is the full mark at 180 degrees operating temp) , again check the oil level while it is running in Park.. Going forward I will check the trans oil every time I do an oil change. By the way, I used a 3 foot flexible hose ( from a dishwasher discharge) and funnel to add the trans oil. Much easier than pumping the oil from underneath the truck..
David that's a great idea! After a couple of quarts, you get tired real quick lol. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Was there enough gravity from a funnel to feed into the tube into the trans? I'm about to do this service - I am not looking forward to filling this thing lol
@@TrickShiftGaragehow the trany works after that oil change brother
@andryjcisneros2334 mine has been working perfect. No issues.
@@TrickShiftGarage thank you sir
Dude, if not for you and your video, I wouldn’t have known about that Dorman pan with the drain plug. We just bought a 14 Navigator that I planned on swapping all fluids out to baseline the maintenance on it. The 3X pan drop and refill transmission service will be SO much easier after dropping the OEM pan (and changing the filter of course) for the 2 subsequent drain and fills.
As for the video itself, I really appreciated your positive vibe and enthusiasm. It makes for an easier to watch video. Great work! Subscribed!
Hey thanks Brandon w
I appreciate the kind words! I am glad the video helped! Thanks for watching!
@@TrickShiftGarage Hey brother, just completed the pan drop, filter change, and new pan and gasket installed. Filled it with a gallon of Valvoline maxlife followed by just shy of 2 quarts of AMSOIL Fuel Efficient (their version of low viscosity) ATF. Even though it’s only the first volley of fluid changes on this transmission, it already shifts a lot more precisely…and ironically the ‘Gator coasts easier, lol.
At 140k miles, the fluid in that pan was NASTY! No big metal flakes, just that fine mush stuck on the magnet though. I’ve got just shy of 22 quarts of the AMSOIL ATF on the shelf. Going to do a drain and refill each time I fill up with the next 2 tanks of gas, then once more when I’m due for an oil change.
Couldn’t have done it without your video!
That's a great idea Brandon! That should help prolong the life of it for sure. Glad to hear it helped! Thanks for watching! 🤟
I bought a 2012 Navigator a year ago and a Ford dealer was able to confirm from the V.I.N. number, that the previous owner had serviced and changed transmission fluid at the $30K mile mark, as required by warranty. I'm at the 92K miles mark now and ready to do a drain & fill very soon to confirm a maintenance baseline. I'm definitely going to buy the Dorman pan with the drain plug to make future changes easier.
Any time I do a transmission job and it does not have a drain plug I just drill a 3/8 hole in lowest part of pan to drain. Saves big on mess, then I tack weld a nut inside and install a drain plug.
That's another way to do it lol. Having a drain plug is so convenient on transmission pans. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Man thanks a million...... I was intimidated by the thought of this job at 1st with my own 2013 F-150 3.7 Liter with a whopping 260K miles and counting on it...
As soon as you mentioned trick shift at the beginning because I'm new to this channel it reminded me of my moroso transmission fluid that I used in my turbo hydramatic 400 back in the late seventies and it was brutal and could handle 690 horsepower naturally aspirated at the time...
That's amazing! I found out about that transmission fluid when googling our channel. Definitely an awesome transmission fluid to use in those 400's! Thanks for watching Wayne! 🤟
Thanks for the video, had some big repairs between my 2017 F150 and my wife's 2013 Explorer that I actually had to take to a shop since it was out of my scope. Glad to see this this one is fairly easy. I have around 75K on the F150 and tow fairly light loads with it constantly and wanted to get this done in the next couple of months. Then it will be onto the Explorer which doesn't look fun with the transfer case sine I have the awd model.
Yea this isn't too bad. I'll be doing an updated video for the transmission fluid, this time showing exactly how to fill it and how to tell when it's perfectly filled. Make sure you look in the description of this video as I have updated information in there. Let me know if you have any questions!
Newbie on cars. Newbie subscriber. Thanks for teaching us what "dads" don't
Real nice video. Lots of good camera shots. Ford really did a disservice to its customers by not having a traditional under the hood dipstick to check the fluid level. There are after market dip stick kits, but they are over $200! In one service manual, I read that the fluid level should be checked when the transmission is at normal operating temperature while running. That becomes a a hell of a task to not burn yourself on the cat converter. I think what you did was fine, If the level is at the bottom of A while cold, it should expand to the B mark when its hot.
Thank you I really appreciate the kind words! And I totally agree. A dipstick may cost them less than $1 to put in all of these trucks. I know I would gladly pay an extra dollar to have one.
I think I may eventually buy the aftermarket dipstick, but I'm also having a hard time throwing $200 at it right now. Especially for something that should already be on the vehicle from the factory.
Thanks for watching, we really appreciate it!
@@TrickShiftGarage Yes, this transmission requires a sealed and locking dipstick because the transmission operates under vacuum. The after market dipstick assembly cost in Canada is closer to $300, which is ridiculous. I'm sure Ford could have provided it for $20 bucks.
Couple of comments for anyone. One who wants to do their own transmission service, he used paper towels to wipe the pan out and the filter connection which isn't bad. But when after you clean the pan ideally you should use compressed air, but above all, be sure not to use rags because they deposit lint on the surfaces of things. You can't really see it but it does and that will eventually wash and get up into the filter. In addition, many of the Ford products and other manufacturers have reusable gaskets. They're usually rubber with ribs on them and they'll have metal washers embedded in them around the bolts to stop the bolt at a certain point, so never throw those away. They're reusable. Oftentimes the filter kit will give you some cheap gasket that's not designed to work the way the original one is
Excellent video. Pro tip is use a kiddie pool underneath to catch fluid.
That will definitely help keep the ground clean! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Exactly what I used today.😂
Got parts on the way, you made it look easy. Hoping it goes that way for me. Other videos show where 4 qts, 41/2 qts Then checking it and they are always putting more in. That had me confused, I am going to use your method, makes sense to me. I have a 2010 Ford f150 flex. With 150000 on it and just had the engine swapped, and was told I need to have my tranny serviced. Priced it and OMG expensive. I figured at that price I can get the parts, fluid, and tools for less and do it myself. My hard time is on the fluid level getting it right the first time.
So, you will need to keep filling when the transmission gets warm. I added that part to the description of the video because I didn't realize it needed to be done. You will be able to fit another quart or 2 in the transmission with it running while the fluid is warm.
Let me know how it goes! 🙏
Why couldn’t the dipstick be under the hood? Smh Thank you Ford 😡
I couldn't agree more Dazmon! The dipstick and coil covers should have both came with these trucks from the factory. Ford can be irritating at times.
I though I was going crazy until I serched it up
Ford makes some boneheaded decisions. This was one of them.
Saved the cheapskates 37 cents
David you are correct! Ford needed that extra money for...whatever lol. Thanks for watching! 🤟
and done thanks mate 😎🤙 did it with an automatic ATF pump all 7q in less then a min went threw the gears turned it off re checked the dip stick and water pressure the undercarriage so nothing catches fire while i left it idling for 30 minutes turned it off for an hour then drove home for 1 hour everything went smoothly i was just wishing bought that same pan you got would of man life easier the next time i do the fluid change but what ever the point is that its taken care of ✌️
Awesome man glad you got it done! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! 🙏
Excellent video and right to the point. Checking this under the vehicle? Checking it well running? Checking it next to 'hot' exhaust components? Unbelievable a so called 'engineer' would design anything this bad and even worse for Ford to manufacture it.
I couldn't have said it any better Lance. You are 100% on point with that comment. We appreciate you watching! 🙏
fyi you can cold-fill/check with it just slightly warm...fluid should just barely hit the crosshatch area. At operating temp, fluid expansion should put it 3/4 or more of the way into the crosshatch, meaning it's good to go.
Very helpful and concise video. One of the bolts at the rear of the pan was rounded and would not come off. I believe the threads of those bolts are exposed to the elements. I might try a 1/4" drive wobble extension and impact driver but if that doesn;t work I think I'm SOL.
Oh man, sorry to hear that. Let me know how it goes!
This was very helpful. The manual says something like 13 quarts. Not sure where the other quarts are hiding, but mine took about 7.
The rest of the fluid rests in the torque converter. Typically if you can get about 7 quarts back in you did a great job!
Just did this job on my 14 f150 2 weekends ago.
Take dipstick out.
Use a fluid extractor, put hose in fill port and suck the fluid out first!
So much easier
Great!
If you pop off a trans cooler line in the front under the radiator, you can pump out the remaining 8 quarts of old fluid by starting the truck and cycling the shift selector. Just keep topping off the transmission as you go so it does not suck dry. When it comes out bright red, you’re done.
I've been really thinking about doing a video on how to do that, but I need to do some more research.
Do you know where I can find a write-up of this procedure?
It took me a few hours to change mine because I'm just slow. I thought I only needed four quarts but I ended up using seven. The truck was leveled and the engine was running when I was checking it and since I didn't drain seven quarts, I'm guessing my tranny was slipping because the fluid was low? And that aluminum foil trick was ingenious. I spilled more fluid refilling it than removing the pan thanks to the foil.
That's great man I'm glad to hear that! And I'm glad you found the aluminum foil trick helpful! 🤟
Thank you for this video! I also got the Dorman pan that you got but unfortunately almost half the bolts would not line up! We are talking maybe a mm or a fraction of, but unless you drill or file them out, the transmission pan bolts will get hung up and possibly cross thread. Unfortunately I was not in a situation where I could finagle with the pan so I ended up using the existing Ford one which is much heavier and high quality
This was for a 2017 Expedition 2WD*^
Oh man I'm sorry! I figured this pan would work for almost all 6R-80 Transmissions. Good thing you still had your old pan!
@@TrickShiftGarage ya know. They should work for all these! It was fractionally off by a mm which for us DIY wrenchers we can “improvise” but by engineering or pro standards that’s off by a country mile! I haven’t met a mechanic face to face yet who likes Dorman. I told my good friend what happened because he used to work for Dorman as early as this past spring! He lol’d and wasn’t surprised. It’s mind boggling what comes through engineering there. If it didn’t hit it ships he said. Unreal
Yea man, I've come across quite a few people that have not had any luck with Dorman products. Which I was shocked at first because I haven't had a single issue. But, I'm going to be cautious now because a lot of people have had issues.
I also changed the pan, but did a little hole to the old one to avoid any oil mess
Video is great! Did everything less than an hour if you don't count waiting for all the fluid to drain.
Awesome! Glad you got it done! 👍
Great video and slick trick using the foil 👍
Thanks for watching! 🤟
Awesome Tutorial!!!! Thank so Much for sharing, lots of wasted time with most videos that teach nothing 🤦🏻♀️!!!
Absolutely! Thanks for watching! 🙏
great video definitely took a couple notes the newer the vehicle the more work it seems makes me miss the 1986 5.0 "ghost" might have to get another one
Yea it's definitely different. Also, make sure you check the description. There is more information there on how to properly fill these transmissions (if you haven't already).
Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes when you do yours! 🤟
Good video. Clear and informative….straight to the point. And you got me to sub with the little outro. Good job guys!
Hey thank you so much! We appreciate the support! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! 🤟
What about gluing the gasket in place before returning the pan into place. That way the gasket doesn't move?.
No, definitely not. The gasket will fall into place when you get every bolt in. You never want to use glue on gaskets.
Excellent video! Right down to the pan bolts torque specs!! As long as the trans fluid is warm and circulated by going through the gear patterns, Does the engine need to be running or just observe the A and B marks on the dip stick? Thanks for sharing!! Thanks for the Links you provided too!!! Appreciate that very much.
Hello! Yes, the engine needs to be running and you need to watch your transmission temp gauge. Once it gets up to operating temperature (this will take longer than the engine reaching normal operating temp), then you can continue to fill.
The dipstick is odd. I'm not sure why there is an A or a B, but from what I've read you are better off filling it up to the top line. Once you get there, put the dipstick and cap back on, fasten it, and then you can shut the engine off. Don't shut the engine off while the dipstick and cap are off as this will cause fluid to leak out.
i noticed you replaced the oem pan with an after market with a drain plug. That makes life alot easier. Why didnt ford make it to where trans changes were as easy as oil changes?
Definitely makes it easier. Personally, I think Ford (as well as some other automakers) do this to discourage owners from doing the maintenance on their vehicles. They want people to go to the dealer. And honestly, it works for the most part. Most people don't want to spend the extra time doing it themselves, so they just take it to the dealer. But you can save a boatload of money by doing it yourself. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Khoa! We appreciate it! 🤟
It's crazy because It says that it's overfilled when cold. And when you turn it on and you check it while idling, it's barely halfways. I put a little less than six quarts
Just changed mine.thanks for sharing video.
Thanks for watching! 🤟
Great Job! Thanks look easy but not share I want to do this. What if the transmissions don't work after I'm done.
If the transmission doesn't work after you are done, then it was already broken to begin with. Changing the fluid the proper way will not ruin your transmission. You can do this!
Let us know who it goes! 🤟
Thank you for the video was quoted 780 to do the job I’m buying tools at harbor freight and doing this next weekend cheers
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
Also, make sure you look at the description of this video. I have information on how to properly fill these transmissions.
Thank you for your video…I followed step by step and yes… when I check the level engine off it was on the mark but with the engine ON and warm I add 2 litters more !!!! did I do it wright ?
Yes! You did it right!
Oh, I forgot to ask, is the truck level when adding the fluid and checking the level? Thanks again!
And yes, make sure the truck is level or it will give you an inaccurate reading. Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes brother! 🤟
Hi, excellent video. Could you send me the link for the pump that you was using, please? Thank you
Hello Pablo! Here is the link: amzn.to/3T5n2oH
Thanks for watching!
Hi. Thank you.
Anytime! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Sorry to bother but can you write the pound pressure on the bolts please? I really like the video thank you a lot.
I believe they are 10 foot pounds.
Can you just use a Syphon pump to draw this out and then simply replace through the dipstick tube the same amount that you removed? I’ve done that on another transmission a few times and it was super easy to do
Yea I guess you could, but it would take longer. That's why I bought a pan with a drain bolt. Makes changing the fluid a lot easier.
Why did you do a new stock pan? I missed it i guess... Why not a aluminum finned pan?
I wanted a pan that had a drain plug.
What's the benefit to an aluminum finned pan?
@@TrickShiftGarage oh ok I didn't see the drain plug.
Aluminum pans usually are deeper and hold more fluid. And can dissipate heat more if towing a lot. And most have drain plugs as well. Otherwise just another expense. 😆
Lol I gotcha. These trucks have very a very good cooling system, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's why the 6R-80 lasts so long.
Hi grate video. in my case my transmition in 2 difrents times stop to make the shifts I turn off the car and after to turn on the essue go away did you think it's gonna be a enough just to change oil an filter. One " mechanic" told me it's Gonna be nesessary change the valve body, the speed sensor, to fix the problem
Hello Cesar,
How many miles do you have on your truck?
@@TrickShiftGarage 160k mi
Do you know if the fluid has been changed before? Or is the original fluid still in the transmission?
@@TrickShiftGarage I buyed use I think it's the original
Hello Cesar! Sorry for the delay. With 160k miles, I would say your mechanic may be correct. You may need to rebuild part of it.
However, if I was in your shoes, I would change the fluid and add in Seafoam Trans Tune first. See if that can keep the transmission clean for about 10k miles. Then change it again. That may help save it in the long run. These transmissions are built really well, so you may be ok.
You should check the level at idle speed what it says on the small dip stick
Agreed. Also, when the transmission fluid reaches normal operating temperature. I have it updated in the description.
@TrickShiftGarage I need to do mine it's been 300,000 Trans has 609,000 miles on it along with the motor I'm just wanting to do it myself and was wondering if at idle speed do you just leave the dip stick in when cranking the truck or should the cap be on the dip stick just wondering thanks for the video
Wow that's a lot of miles! And what I would do is fill the fluid until it starts spilling out, and then leave the cap and the dipstick in place until it gets up to operating temperature. Then, you can remove it and top off the fluid.
Man, that was a GREAT video and very easy to follow...Thank you 🫡
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment Rob! We appreciate it! 🤟
Very helpful. At what mileage did you change the transmission fluid? Thanks.
I believe I was around 80,000. Thanks for watching! 🤟
Hello, I’m planning on doing the tranny fluid on my 2014 F150 this fall. Great video! I have one question… did you jack the truck at all? Is it necessary to jack the truck?
I put it on ramps because I was on a slight incline. It also gave me more room underneath. I guess it's possible to do it with jack stands and/or ramps, but it would be difficult.
If you use jackstands and/or ramps, just make sure your truck is level to give you an accurate reading when filling.
@@TrickShiftGarage once again... great content! Thank you for the reply! Subscription earned.
Hey thanks man we appreciate it! 🙏
did you change the oil pan so you now have a drain plug I noticed the new pan has a drain plug maybe you mentioned it in the video.
Yep that's exactly why I changed the pan! It's going to make changing the fluid a lot easier next time! Thanks for watching! 🤟
I saw another video where you have to replace the transmission auxiliary pump inlet tube seal after pulling off the filter. Now that I’ve seen a few other videos I don’t see this same seal on the transmission. Have you ever heard of this seal? I can’t find it in the fords part site either.
Hello Roy, I believe that's for the vehicles equipped with the start stop feature. Some Fords use an auxiliary pump to keep transmission fluid pressure up so when you release the brake pedal and the engine turns back over, you have fluid moving through your transmission immediately. This can help prevent unnecessary wear and tear from the start stop feature.
Thanks for watching! 🤟
would you happen to know how to change the output shaft speed sensor my truck throws a wrench light and doesn’t wanna go below 3rd or shift above 5th i can barely find any videos on it
Unfortunately no I do not. Someone else mentioned it awhile ago and I've searched for it but I have no idea how to fix it. Sorry brother.
Great video, did you make sure truck is on level ground when putting fluid back in? I see the truck is on ramps.
Thanks! Truck was pretty much level as the ground was slightly inclined. I'm not sure if it was perfect, but it was close.
Thank you for making this video. I will be doing mine next weekend.
Thank you for watching Jose! Good luck changing next weekend and if you run into any trouble, just comment below and we will get back to you asap.
Thank you for the overall one of the best to date on my end an overall amazing video, definitely have my sharing support. Quick question where can I find what you used to pump the new Trans fluid back into pan?
Thank you! The pump should be in the description of the video! Thanks for watching! 🤟
How you made sure, it really flush out all fluid, specially, the one inside torque converter ?. Thanks for answering. BR.
This does not remove all the fluid, only about half. If you want to, you can do another fluid change about 10,000 miles after the first one and that should help get mostly new fluid in your transmission. Hope this helps! 🙏
I’ve always heard the fluid should be checked when it’s warm and the vehicle is running . The fluid expands as it warms up.
Absolutely! I have it updated in the description and will also be coming out with an updated video talking about this.
I have a 09 f 150 xl and it's has the dipstick under the hood.
Yea I think the 4.6L and 5.4L had them, but not the 5.0.
Thanks for watching! 🤟
I have the 4.6 and 6r80 in my 2009 and it has the fill plug on the tranny.
Great video, incredibly helpful.
Question for you guys. I have a 2013 f150 v8 5.0L. I put the front wheels on ramps, drained the pan (foil idea was clutch), cleaned it, replaced filter, put the pan back, and then pumped just shy of 6 quarts into the transmission until it started to overflow (still up on ramps). Took it off the ramps, let id idle for 15 mins, cool for 5, then checked fluid level. Why would it still be showing low? It's not even reaching the "B". I know the obvious thing is to add more fluid, but I really don't want to risk overfilling and dealing with that issue.
Definitely add more fluid. And many people have informed me you need to check and top off the fluid while the engine is running (and the transmission fluid needs to be warm). You will need heat resistant gloves as the plug is right next to the catalytic converter. Don't worry about overfilling, it's almost impossible to do that since there isn't a dipstick under the hood (it's built into the plug).
@@TrickShiftGarage Man, i cannot thank you enough, not just for the video, but for the quick and helpful response. You just saved me a lot of money!
Absolutely man, glad to help! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Trick of the trade, capture fluid into a measure bucket and just put the exact amount back in.
We never check fluid levels when we do them lol, unless of course you suspect there is a reason to.
Sweet video, thanks for helping me quickly quote this one.
Unless they have a leak
@@SarahOpalPearson4JesusofNazare Exactly, which is usually 0% of the time
2014 f-150 here. The u arm is so close to the bolts, I can't fit anything in between. There's a gigantic heat shield welded to it. It's looking like I'm going to have to drop the entire exhaust to get to the bolts. I have about an inch of clearance in between the u arm and the bolts. Any ideas?
What size wrench socket to remove trans pan?
I believe the bolts were either 8MM or 10MM.
@ thanks 👍 I have to remove a 02 sensor for my catalytic converter
@ to get to the fill plug😭
Man, awesome video. Very helpful. Can't wait for more content
Thanks Terry, we appreciate it! I have a lot planned for my 2013 F150, so stay tuned! 🤟
You may have mentioned it in the video but what brand of oil pan did you use? Want to have a drain plug for future.
The one I bought was from Dorman. I have a link to it in the description if you want to check it out. If it doesn't work, please let me know and I'll try to provide a different link.
I got a 2010 ford explorer sporttrac with the 4.6 3V with the 6R80 trans. Thanks for the video. Been thinking about doing this but a bit scared to try.
You got this! 🤟
If your putting a new pan on, just drill a hole in bottom of old one to drain. Keeps it clean.
You could for sure!
Do you use the original gasket or do you buy a new one? This is very helpful. Also, a link to that pump would be cool
Hello! I used a new gasket, however that's not necessary. Ford says the gasket is reusable, so you can save some money and keep yours.
I have the pump linked in the description if you are interested. Also, make sure you read the first part of the description. I updated the correct filling procedure there. I will be coming out with another video going into more detail at some point in the next month or 2.
Thanks for watching! 🙏
@@TrickShiftGarage Thanks for the quick reply. I've been considering going to the dealer for all fluids but a lot of this seems doable in my driveway. Thanks for the tutorials!!!
Absolutely! Let me know how it goes brother! 🤟
@TrickShiftGarage ok so this may be a dumb question, but was the plastic dipstick you checked atf level with there at the end contained inside the filler bolt you removed or was it an additional purchase one needs to check fluid level?
There is no such thing as a dumb question! And yes it was inside of the bolt. This is Fords cheap method of giving us a dipstick lol. I miss the days where a transmission dipstick was located under the hood.
As per my knowledge to check oil leavel car must be about 51f correct me if im wrong
I believe the temperature has to be between 193 and 215 degrees Fahrenheit.
what the name of the tool used in pumping the transmission fluid
It's a siphon. I have it linked in the description if you want that exact siphon.
Smart, I was wondering why there was no drain. Where'd you get that pan? Ford was like let's make this as dangerous and inconvenient as possible lol.
I got the pan on Amazon from a company called Dorman. It works great! But that drain bolt should have come from the factory lol.
Did I miss something or did that old trans pan not have a drain plug? But the new one does?
Yea, I mentioned I put a new pan on.
Where is the Output Shat speed Sensor on the transmission??
Sorry, that's wayyy beyond my knowledge of these vehicles lol. But when you find out please let us know. You could help someone else that needs to know too!
@@TrickShiftGarage Thanks Sir!
....... the pan that you removed and cleaned is not the pan that you installed???? tell us about that new pan ..... it has a drain plug ..... where did you buy that pan ???.... posted by Jent.
Hello Jent! You are correct, I actually made a separate video on the new pan. It's a Dorman and I got it off of Amazon. I have a link in the description for it if you are interested in one. Thanks for watching! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage Since you bought the cool new pan with a built in drain plug how come you didnt drill a hole in the old pan to drain the fluid?
Wait arnt you supposed to check the fluid when in idle?
Yep! It's updated in the description.
This video is exactly what I was looking for. Thx!!!
Anytime, thanks for watching! 🤟
Great video! How are you liking that new dorman pan? Have you done a drain and fill with that new pan?
So far it's been great. No leaks, but I have not done a drain and fill yet. I'll provide a video when I do, so stay tuned! And thanks for watching! 🤟
Why didn't you pump the old fluid out before you drop the pan?
It wasn't necessary.
Should the transmission filter be changed out with every flush
If you are changing it every 60k or more miles, then yes it should.
The transmission pan I bought allows me to drain the fluid without taking the pan off, so I plan on draining every 30k miles, and then changing the filter every 60k. I'm not saying this is necessary, it's just what I plan on doing.
@@TrickShiftGarage ok thank you sir
No problem, thanks for watching! 🤟
Awesome! Ill watch a few more times to get it down then do it this weekend!
Sounds good! Be sure to let us know how it goes! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage I've just finished however I forgot to place the magnet back in and one of the bolts to the Pan are stripped. How important is this magnet? Ty for the clear guide!
That magnet is actually very very important. You're going to have to get it back in there. It catches all metal particles and shavings from your transmission that could clog and ruin your transmissions internals. I'm sorry brother, but that really needs to go back in there.
@@TrickShiftGarage i see, do you think id be able to drive it around for 2 weeks and get back to it?
Honestly I have no idea. I don't want to say yes, and then you have an issue with your transmission. I'm not sure 2 weeks is long enough to cause damage, but I'm still not 100% sure either. I'm sorry man, I wish I could provide you with a better answer.
Doesn’t the truck have to be running to check the fluid accurately?🤔
Yes it does. I have the correct fill procedure in the description of this video.
Shouldn’t you check the trans fluid with the vehicle running?
Hello Tabcobra! So this has been a topic of discussion on these videos lately. Supposedly, in order to get an accurate reading, you need to:
Fill the pan until it is full.
Start your engine and get the transmission up to 200+ degrees.
Check the dipstick level and fill as needed.
However, I personally believe this is overkill. I watched a video from Fordtechmakuloko (spell check) and he acknowledged that you do not have to wait until the trans fluid is warm or hot. He said just get the fluid up just under where it's supposed to be on the dipstick. Since the fluid expands, it will rise to the appropriate level when it's hot.
This is essentially what I did when changing my fluid. A lot of people disagree with this method, however I will stick to this method for the life of the vehicle and post videos with updates on the status of the tranny. I plan on changing it every 60k miles and will make sure to include that in those videos as well.
Sorry for the length of this, but I wanted to make sure I gave you every piece of information without misleading you or anyone else. Thanks for watching ! 🤟
@@TrickShiftGarage Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it! But just so I understand, you just have the trans warm and NOT actually running?
No problem. And yes, that is correct. I will provide updates each time I change the fluid and if there are any issues. I think my transmission will be just fine though.
Did you use any kind of gasket sealer on the gasket? Also, is there a specific pattern the bolts should be tightened in?
Hello Marathoner43! No, I did not use a gasket sealer. I did buy a new gasket for the pan, but supposedly the gaskets are reusable.
As far as the bolt pattern, I just tried to go back and forth on opposite sides to ensure a snug fit.
made a mess of my transmission oil change. Now I see the video . Definitely had too much fluid in mine. Started leaking when I pulled the plug/dipstick.
Hello Tim! This is one thing I've been worried about. Some people say you need to fill it while the engine is running, but I fear they will run into issues like you.
I personally don't think filling while the engine is off is a bad thing at all. As long as the fluid is at the correct level when you check the dipstick, I think you will be just fine. These transmissions are built really well, and I know a lot of owners never fill them when the engine is running.
Ford manual suggests checking with vehicle running. When I changed these I always measured the amount coming out as a guide to what goes back in. I have always had to start vehicle and check while running to get same amount of transmission fluid back in.
I'm not doubting your method, but if that was the case, I wonder why the fluid doesn't leak immediately after taking the dipstick out? It's a very strange way of filling imo.
Again, I'm not doubting it. But I'm going to be a test bed for this. I'm going to change this fluid the same way in the video for the life of the truck. At least this way we will know for sure if my method will destroy a transmission or not.
Thanks for watching! 🤟
@Trick Shift Garage It is a horrible design in my opinion. I bought special high temp gloves just for these vehicles. Your transmission will operate with less fluid. I am curious if you are seeing higher temperatures in transmission.
@Car Survivalist Yea it really is. I haven't seen a difference in temperature. Maybe they suggest filling when the engine is running while towing? I haven't done any towing, so I can only speculate.
Did a fluid change and now I have a whining noise from the tranny.
Good advice on how to fix this is appreciated!
Sorry to hear that Kris! 😞
Did u find out what it was ?
@krisnotChris95 Did you find out what this was? I'm having same issue now
Did you have the front tires of your F150 up on ramps when readding and checking the tranny fluid or was all four tires on the ground? Asking cuz I usually use ramps in the front and didn’t know if that little bit of lean from the front tires being up on ramps would make a difference on the tranny fluid level when checking it at the end
Yes, they were on ramps but I was on a slight incline too. So it was pretty level when I checked it.
But you are correct. If the truck (or any vehicle for that matter) isn't level, it will give you a false reading on the dipstick.
Thank you for the great video, i appreciate your tips and tricks 👍
Anytime, thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! 🤟
I have 98K miles on my 2015 f150. I was going to change it. But I wonder should i "change" it or have it flushed? I hear different opinions on the flush
Hello Pete! Personally, I don't think I would ever flush. I've never had a transmission fail by just dropping the pan. I have heard people say they ruined a transmission shortly after flushing though. But that's just my opinion. Do whatever you feel is best for your truck!
@@TrickShiftGarage Thanks.. Also you mentioned the "trick" with the foil. that's pretty cool. I think I will just use a oil extractor.
hi. great video shots and awesome tips - i mean tricks! am following suit and using ur Amazon links to get parts, but was wondering if u need to put some thread locks on the pan bolts… Ford workshop manual doesn’t specify using thread locks but the torque spec listed is actually 80 lb-in, and not 98 lb-in as many seem to assume.
Hello Peace Warrior! I've heard Fords 6R140 (used in the Super Duty's) should be torqued to 80 inch lbs, however I've read the 6R80 in these trucks should be torqued anywhere between 96 and 120 inch lbs. Haynes recommends 120 inch lbs also, so that's what I would go with.
@@TrickShiftGarage thanks.
Anytime! 🤟
How many quartz of transmission fluid dose my 2014 ford f150 5.0 takes?
It's not that simple. You need to drop the pan, replace the filter and then begin refilling. Once it's full, you then need to start your engine and let the transmission get up to operating temperature (this will take awhile in the cold weather). Then, you can add another quart or 2.
That's technically the proper way to fill these transmissions.
Just used your trick and it helped out a lot! Thanks for the great video!
Armando that's great to hear! We are glad it helped you out! Thanks for watching! 🤟
Should I change the fluid with 137000 not sure if it's been changed
Hello Chuck, I'm not quite sure to be 100% honest. Some people say to change it anyway, other people say to leave it alone. I will say this, if it was my truck I would change it because I don't feel like 137,000 miles is too much. If the truck had over 200,000 miles, then that would be a different story. But that's just my opinion.
isn't the B area on the dipsick the area to go by ? at temp, running ?
I believe so. I haven't done this service in awhile so I'm not 100% sure. I do believe the B section is at the top and that is where you want the fluid to be when it's at operating temperature with the engine running.
@@TrickShiftGaragei believe cold fill can go right to the edge of the crosshatch (B) area, where op temp expansion will put you 3/4 of the way up the crosshatch area....good to go👍🏻
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
Guys I need help. 2012 Ford F-150 xlt with this tranny. The first 4 bolts, closest to the engine, I cannot get out for the life of me. The angle is horrible with that exhaust pipe in the way. I used the 8mm socket with multiple extensions and on my 1/4 and 3/8 drive. Can’t get it to sit flush, it feels like I’m stripping it because of the angle. Please help me with any Advice. Now I’m out of a vehicle
Hello Don, have you tried using open ended wrenches? Or ratcheting wrenches (if you have them)? Those bolts are an absolute pain to get to.
@@TrickShiftGarage I literally tried everything, I had to cut the exhaust pipe right out to get to them, about a foots worth. Boom, blots came right off now. I even tried heating them up and put pb blaster on them, nothing,,,, So now ill just clamp the exhasut piece back on, what a headache!
Does anybody else have a ridiculously small amount of space between the exhaust and the 4 bolts that hold the shallow part of the pan or is it just mine? I can’t even torque to spec
Nope, we all do. Just try to get them snug. A torque wrench just won't fit in that area unfortunately.
Actually my exhaust is bent from the previous owner, thus giving me the low clearance, thankyou previous owner
Those are the worst. They just dump it off to the next owner to deal with. Sorry brother.
Did u Buy ah new gasket, Pan & filter, Or you just cleans the old 1’s and reused it?
I bought a new gasket, even though Ford says you can reuse the old one. I bought a new filter because you need to change the filter when you change the fluid (around every 60k miles). And I changed the pan to make draining the fluid easier in the future.
Does your dorman oil pan leak from the drain plug?
Nope, no issues because the plug comes with a crush washer.
My 2013 has an exaust right in the way no way I can get to the dipstick without removing stuff
Is it an aftermarket exhaust? There should be room if it's the factory exhaust. It's tight, but still plenty of room.