Exactly. She was a 6 year old LITTLE GIRL. A daughter, a sister. Most of us can sympathize with their horrendous loss. RIP JonBenet RIP also for Patsy who died not knowing who did this to her child smh so sad
berja. nope! I cannot sympathize with their loss. because a loss insinuates an accident. something that they had no control over. JonBenet was not lost she was murdered she was tortured. I don't sympathize with those people at all. and as long as people continue to sympathize with child murderers they will always continue to exist and continue to hurt kids. just like the people that murder their kids by leaving them in a car. that is never an accident. it is always murder. you might forget a kid for five minutes but to leave a kid in a car to die no. you totally forget a kid that you have taken care of for a day, a week, a month, six months, a year, 2 years or 3 years? bullshit, that is murder. but the murderers have realized that is a way to get out of child support or this is a way to hurt the X-partner and not go to prison as long as I cry on TV. the minute the first person got away with that crime it open the floodgates for all of the rest of the murderers to get away with it and that's exactly what's happening. just like the women that murdered their babies claiming postpartum depression the first bitch got away with it and open the floodgates for the rest of those whores to kill their kids and get away with it but if you notice once the first Justice decided to throw the bullshit flag and send a whore to prison for killing their kid siting postpartum depression have stopped. now you notice that no bitches are killing their kids anymore claiming postpartum depression because now they're like oh I might go to prison if I do this shit so amazingly they stopped. the same thing needs to happen with these monsters torturing and killing their kids by leaving them in the car. Start sending them to prison for life and you will see that they will start remembering their damn kids and kids will not be murdered in the damn car anymore. but unfortunately child rapist will always exist because they are a different type of creature no matter what you do too certain types of people they will always be evil so the only thing that you can do to them is simply kill them when they're discovered and people need to stop saying that nonsense that it is Revenge and not Justice or the silliness two wrongs don't make a right. rapists and murderers need to die.
They had nothing to do with the "murder" of their own child. People need to get off the ignorance train and actually go back to the very beginning, don't read the media hype- read what the Ramsey's said-NOT what the media misconstrued in their zeal to convict someone, ANYONE, for this horrendous crime..... I agree, rapists and murderers SHOULD die, they DESERVE to die, they committed a crime & justice needs to be upheld but the Ramsey's had nothing to do with it, Not Patsy, not John, not Burke, not anyone in the Ramsey clan period. The police f'ed the case up from day one and from the first moment they stepped into that household.
The documentary highlighted every single important details they never even bothered to look at. Its sad to know that the justice systen failed her. This case need to be reopened.
@@usaf2226 What douche bag you are! I bet you're a bully. You know it is a proven fact that people like you have mental issues. Work on them first. then come here for opinions.
@ calm down a bit here, i respect your opinion, but as what I know, the brain and heart has their own functions, when someone gets bloated or hit intensely on the head, breaking the skull, it wouldn't instantly kill the person, the person's heart will still function, that's why the suspect strangled her to death. And the DNA that was found on her undies ain't a proof that she got rapedー if she were raped, then there would be bloodー or straight up, different fluids, but there's none. The DNA that's found was the DNA from her wearing the new undies, or from the manufacturers of it. If she got raped, then why did the suspect decided to do it on their house rather than actually KIDNAPPING JonBenet and left a 3-page 'ransom note'? how could the suspect break in, if they couldn't even really fit on the window as what the case stated? If the suspect went in by the window, then the webs and dusts and all of that would wipe out, plus the space of the window is really really small, if the suspect had break in, it would wipe out all the webs from the window(it has pictures from the actual crime scene it obviously can't be possible if a random spider just made a really old-looking web on the window of the basement at the time after the suspect did their job, right?), as when the suspect would, obviously, slide into the window due to the small space. And there were to signs that someone broke inー the dusts didnt spread out at the opening of the window, and when the suspect would come out from where he broke in, then the suspect would completely clean that spot. I am not saying that there WEREN'T people who looked at Jonbenet in a sexual way, or basically building up sexual desiresー but I am stating the logical sense here.
@@usaf2226 Tough! You hate it! A lot of people like it. It's time to learn that people are different and have different personalities. As long as they don't hurt you, they are entitled to their own account, photos, social media, opinions, and life in general. For all we know this person can have a beautiful personality and a much better life than you and me. So why are you being so disrespectful and a bully? Stop that.
It took approx. 20 minutes for the "intruder" to write the three page ransom note using stationary (pen & pad) owned by the Ramseys. That indicates it was written in the house. What self respecting "intruder" takes the time to do that?
ikr, and TWO practice papers on the trash, then it probably, logically, took more than twenty minutes, and also mentioned a very specific amount of money, the suspect obvisouly know that the Ramsey family had lots of money, why didn't the suspect just said a million dollars?
Well if an intruder came into the house while the Ramsey's were out to dinner. They would of had a couple of hours there to scope the place, write the letter. A creepy stalker with no where better to be.
@@Raven.13 n Wong a court certified handwriting expert noted 200 similiarities between Patsy's writing and the note. Have you compared? It's impossible to tell the difference between Patsy's writing and the note. It's ASTONISHING!!!!
@@Raven.13 And why would a kidnapper brutally murder her & leave her there? The purpose was supposed to be to get money. Kidnapper don't murder kids, leave them in the house along with obviously phony ransom notes that advice them to get rest. Who tells sleeping people to get rest? And what kidnapper cares if you're well rested?
Yep, a ransom note of a child that is still in the house? Yeah right. and when they could not find the body and were ready to leave the father says, you idiots. let me check again, oh, there she is.
@@DennisAllums Yeah. Why would anyone botther covering up a crime with a ransom note and not move the body. Either this is the stupidest cover up ever, or a really smart child molestor. What better way to produce confusion than that? Please tell me of a way. I have thought about it and it is by far a great idea. Also everyone says they had someone on the force cover it up. if that is the case, why would that person not tell them to bury the body? Anyone within the justice system knows a body means a lot. Without a body, there is largely no case. Also, a decomposed body goes a long way with helping cover a crime. look at the case anthony case. Also the mother would have cracked under that police interrogation. Cops have over a 85 % batting average and the ones who dont crack have already been charged with a crime. There is only two people it could be, a really smart intruder that stalked the family or brother whom attempted to cover it up all by himself. The stun gun marks on the child's body rules out the father.
@@bornfree8073 and the DNA they found on her underwear that was male and foreign (didn't match anyone in the house). It was a predator and I believe it was someone they had contact with prior and didn't know. If the police didn't focus solely on the Ramsey, they probably would have been able to help qith a list of guests and any other acquaintances instead of getting a lawyer.
That was one of the first things that really indicated that it was an inside job. John Ramsey is worth millions. If it were an actual kidnap attempt, no kidnapper in his right mind would as for $118,000 dollars, that's an insult. Little JonBenet probably made close to that in 6 months in her beauty pageants.
Deary, Burke was Never even a suspect & he did that interview with Dr Phil because that doc was due to be released & he wanted to defend himself & to tell the public that there was Never Any evidence against Any Ramsey. It was only After that Bogus doc was put on TV that all the endless Garbage started about him, from all the hateful numbskulls who don't know a damn thing True about the crime, the case Or about what Actually happened to JB. All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long long time ago with a mountain of actual Evidence & by actual Experts.
@@bethryan9077 yea sweetheart, and OJ is innocent too. The cops were incompetent, in both cases. No evidence of a break in. 2 practice ransom notes found in the kitchen trash can. Ransom note had phrases commonly used by Patsy. Ransom note, and practice ransom notes were in Patsy’s handwriting. “Kidnappers” happen to request a ransom of exactly what John had just received as a Christmas bonus - $118,000. Maybe Burke is innocent, but someone who lived in that house did this. No question about it sweet pea!
Point. And reminds me of when Patsy answered a question with "I didn't do it. John didn't do it. We don't know who did it." She purposely did not include Burke in that response.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. **The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022
I think this case will never be solved because the involved one(s) did a very well cleaning up job and paying off one too in order to become invisible to the law. That's it. It will never be clarified. I believe the killer lies within the family. But they used their means to make everyone believe it was a stranger, a "perpetrator". Sadly, money and power are stronger than that poor little soul who needed justice made. Edit: thanks for the likes!
It will never be solved because the local police department failed to properly clear the crime scene ..And the father contaminated the crime scene when he picked up his daughters lifeless body at the time ..
According to the head detective it was the father... you can find that interview on here and it is definitely the most powerful non-tangible evidence ever...
John C I have sever anxiety and shcizo personality disorder and i do things like that anytime I'm in a group of more than 3 people. There is a very good chance he developed a mental condition because of all this and having everyone calling him a murderer at 9 years old would do a lot of damage to a developing mind.
I suffered from an anxiety disorder and before I was able to get it under control and managed I used to, among other things, smile when socially anxious or severely distressed emotionally. Jumping to conclusions over something like this is idiotic, or at the very least demonstrates a significant lack of understanding of basic psychology.
ikr after all the research I've done it covers and explains all or nearly all of everything while all the other theories usually don't explain for something. thus makes the most senese
He doesn't seem to understand that people don't ENJOY the idea of him doing it. I think we ALL wished the evidence pointed to some creep pedo that we could track down and lynch. Nobody wants it to be the other child. But the footage of him talking to the police as a kid kind of gives people no choice but to consider it.
@Reiha In rereading your comment it just seems so absurd to hold that level of blame "Isn't he the one who made himself look guilty?" when discussing a freaking child. Now him as an adult . . . . Yeah, I think he's a pretty weird ass acting dude, but that doesn't mean he's guilty and clearly a court of law thought the same. A media company like CBS that has been in business for 91 years should know way better than to release something that blatantly wrong. They presented nothing of opposing arguments nor mentioned that he was cleared by the investigators back then. And I'm sorry, but I have major issues with some current day dipshit watching a one sided, intended to be inflammatory docu-series then acting like they are some expert who knows more about it than the people who were actually there doing the investigation.
Thanks,I spent 20 years in law enforcement and Boulder Police botched this terribly. Crimes like this with strangers rarely happen, a stranger would take taken her away. Also, for entertainment, Google the phrase "ransom note forged by mother" you don't even have to put the Ramsey name, and see what comes back.
it was concocted by cbs to make money for cbs. they dont care if they ruin any lives. the case was settled over a decade ago, cbs was just desperate for a human interest storie to make $$$
@Vincent Cuttolo Ill tell you what a Master sg in the Illinois police dept told me regarding the case. He said "John crimes like this in neighborhoods like that don't go unsolved for long".
People smile out of nervousness or being uncomfortable and that's what I see. Why would you expect someone to still be crying 20 years later? I was very close to my grandparents who died about 10 years ago and I don't cry every time I talk about them.
Watch Dr Phil's response to Burke's body language. Some people smile because they are nervous and coming to speak to the public who have accused him for years can be nerve wracking. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it but body language experts can tell the difference between nervous laugh and guilty laugh
The so called forensic old man (above clip) telling us she was hit also lied in the Casey Anthony case "Against" homicide and forensic specialist Dr. G who said Caley was murdered. Casey got off scot free :(
Absolutely not.. then looks left w a huge smile on his face. A monster!! Imo.. so he can't sue me. I've never ever started laughing by telling the truth. Disgusting man
@@rustinstardust2094 it is a standard thing, that guy is just being an asshat. You can literally google “cleared as a suspect” and so much will pop up. Ted bundy was once cleared as a suspect, so was the green river killer.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came to the U.S. from Puerto Rico when younger with his family. The other one was 24, white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a Long time ago. The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all said 4 No Ramsey wrote the note.
"I was scared." This is clearly a lie. In all of his interview as a child, there was no signs of him being scared. You think he would be since her sister was killed inside their own house. There was no sign of empathy towards his dead sister. None at all. This case is one of those cases that proves that, you can get away with murder.
Yeah in his own words im just getting on with my life with a big smile on his face one day after, when asked to draw a picture of his family only draws him and his parents no sister looks like he was jealous of the attention she got from the mom in them pagents And watching him skipping down the road in front of his sister's coffin smiling looks like he was so happy he couldn't contain it
Everyone is different. I was a very calm kid who never really showed emotion. Does that make me a murderer. I’m still a very mellow adult. I laugh at it now because my cousins told me they thought I was going to be a serial killer. Some people think I’m cold hearted but I’m just not an emotional woman.
Stop it! You have no right to be so slanderous, I don't believe he did it & you have no evidence. I hope (he) sues the shit out of "CBS"....that damn outlet should be a shamed, as well as you people!
I dont get this how can you say there is no evidence there is more evidence that it was the family that it was an intruder explain me what kind of child kidnapper knows what he is gonna do and doest even come with a rescue note ready he just decides to write it while inside the house from a notebook that belongs to patsys and a fucking 3 page long one that would probably take him without thinking about the words probably 20 min to write and he had to think about the words and they found and that was the third time he is writing it since they found 2 more who the fuck would stay that long inside a house first evidence right there jonbenet had pinaple on her stomach still so she had to be killed probably in the following hour that she ate it so if the intruder was there he had to go to jonbenet room exactly as everyone went to bad since she had eaten for a while now and kill her instantly why do that and leave a ramsom note if you know that she is dead makes no sense what so ever. All the dna samples that proved the ramsey family inocent were discarded since the scene was contaminated at the time and dna on her underwear couldnt be proven to be from the murderer the only evidence that says there was an intruder its the ransom note that has a lot of similarities with patsys hand writting and was from her note pad there is a lot more evidence but this is already a long text as it is so i am not gonna add more its just sad she still didnt got any justice after so much time
According to the actual head detective that was actually there at the actual crime scene when jonbenet's body was found actually dead believes that it was the father but I'm sure you're right and she's wrong...
The whole family gives me the creeps. The son is 29 years old when he's being interviewed by that idiot Dr. Phil and replies to his question like he's still 9 yrs old..."I didn't know if there was a bad guy that my dad was trying to chase off with a gun"...Who talks like that at 29 years of age? The mom and dad gave off super strange vibes too. None of them were the least bit convincing. Pay close attention to their interviews and to how the son is practically crawling out of his own skin when he talked to the psychologist. Extremely odd answers and reactions.
Did you ever think that maybe Dr. Phil was paid to have different feelings about the Ramsey’s than what the evidence of the interview clearly indicates, and now no expert is willing to contradict him? The Ramsey’s are still powerful. John is fighting for himself and Burke (and Patsy posthumously) even now. I don’t think he’s searching to find the person who murdered his daughter (although that would be the natural thing for a father to do). I think he’s searching for an innocent person to pin it on so that Burke can walk away.
@@brianbommarito3376 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
His child interviews were enough to accomplish that= "Mom and dad are crying sometimes and I'm just going on with my life," He's maintained that attitude as an adult.
i know right...i mean maybe i am not a criminal expert...but im no stupid for calling an intruder killed that poor little girl IN her own house after looking all the evidence,also the ransom note?? geez who the hell need 21 minute to write a ransom note...knowing exact place where the note pad and the pen was,and after wrote it they put it back in place
@@dinihanikram6431 Very Few know that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. And, Wong had No qualifications to call herself a writing analyst in the first place. Her vids show Fake writing on a whiteboard as If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & as If from police files, all Fake. Thomas never worked a murder case before & only cared how his hair looked for the cameras. He constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He was sued for that book of Lies but many in the public domain don’t know about That & still see him as some sort of hero & Repeat his BS. Many unscrupulous so-called ‘authors’ followed his lead & put out Their versions of BS. The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. Of course, that was Before Steve Thomas set his sites on his delusions of grandeur & blamed Patsy because of a notepad. He was sued for all his lies & lost every cent. In his desperation for fame & $$, he hadn’t found out/been Told about the Second severe fraction to JB’s skull, being a Hole. Besides many of the other gross injuries & sadistic acts to her person, in one word - Torture, that he Dismissed. I suppose he looked good for TV though. Alex Hunter was one of the few who had full Integrity, Lou Smit was another. These men Saw all the evidence known about in those early stages, the public & the grand jury Did Not. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
Of course he's paid, probably plenty! Twenty years will heal and minimize any emotions he may have had over time; most people heal and get over a trauma. However, I detest his continual smile over the interview, it is not a grimace, it seems more of a pathological smile, slyly defensive in nature.. But to be fair, he WAS questioned in an accusing way so defense would be normal, but after all these years, when you're paid plenty? Seems he could have "acted" in a more lamenting fashion! It would have been more appropriate!
Wow..the great awakening continues..trying to feel any sympathy for Burke or his Dad is hard. My heart goes out to an innocent child who was forced to live her Mother's dream. This case is heartbreaking. Rest in peace JonBenet and Patsy Ramsey 🙏🙏
I found the documentary thorough and logical in its entirety. The piece of pineapple in her stomach, the fingerprints on the bowl and glass, the train tracks being the likely piece of instrument used to prod his sister in the side, feaces found on her candy that she got the day before, burkes habit of putting feaces in her bed etc, his past behaviour and him hitting her with the golf club are what make me believe he killed his sister. Also the utterly strange demeanour ( on both occasions) he was displaying while interviewed , lack of emotions such as grief and fear of the alleged killer of his sister’s all speak volumes in my opinion. The cobwebs in the window where the supposed intruder would have entered etc. I have no doubt that he killed his sister. It’s clear as day to me. It’s all very sad.
Dam, where did you get those facts. I concluded he did it without that stuff. This is a slam dunk. I guarantee hell drop the suit. this is all for show. Its a PR technique.
Internet Police No people like Dennis above you already had a feeling he did and watching that documentary was icing on the cake... He killed his sister and the parents covered it up, everybody from their neighborhood knew it, the police knew it, whole damn town knew it.
I think Burke he has lots of mental issues, maybe PTSD having to deal with a death of his little sister, or maybe him murdering her. We never know, I do think he’s a strange man and he smiles.
Rick James Yeah you really do seem like a libtard. Burke surely is weird as he is smiling a lot during the interview. Yeah it could be out of nervousness, but normally if you’re smiling out of nervousness you’d say sorry or say outloud that you’re not smiling at the situation but because you are uncomfortable talking about the death of a loved one.
Actually here is a falsely accused person who is incredibly wealthy now. They settled out of court for hundreds of millions of dollars. If I were him, I would smile all the time too
Nope, the case was not “settled” for a payout, it was “settled” as in ended and Burke can not try to sue them again. Read the court documents! The case did not go past the discovery phase because the Ramsey team did not let it go past that point. They did not want to risk all the grand jury evidence being opened up again and brought out in court. Burke did NOT “win” or get a payout and the CBS documentary is still allowed to be aired!
@@playenimplayenim6319 you are mistaken, read the court documents! The documentary is STILL allowed to be aired NOW and Burke didn’t “win” anything. You think if he had just got millions like you claim that he would have sold his house and downgraded as much as he did? The court documents do not support what you are claiming whatsoever!
@matthew Dreyer nope, PLENTY of evidence he did it and his parents covered for him! The only reason he is not in jail is because he was under the minimum legal age for prosecution under Colorado law at the time he killed his sister! 🤷♀️
He’s in his late 20’s but his interview with dr Phil made him seem like he was 16 (the way he carried himself and the way he spoke). 🤔 it’s interesting I think, plus his lack of emotion (no anger or frustration shown)
@@darlenepaul2934 I wondered about that just by his behavior in the interviews. My daughter and I both have ASD (mine diagnosed at age 35) so I can often pick up on the traits and tics.
I saw that documentary and is the best I've seen regarding this case, they tried to reach the father and his friends but but they wouldn't talk, actually the White's spoke to them but off camera, so they actually did the journalist job right trying to get all the parts versions.
Jonathan Castro they have not been cleared that’s crazy. That DA should not have said that. They lawyered up and got a PR person very early. This is similar to the Madeline McCane case rich people with money to buy their own justice. The rules and laws are only for poor people.
@@jdr9419 The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
THAT'S why he's suing CBS for $750,000,000! Because after watching their documentary that presented only circumstantial evidence suggesting he might have been involved, millions of people like yourself think he is guilty! CBS FAILED TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT EXONERATED HIM, despite calling themselves "journalists", implying they are objective and presenting all the facts! How would you like to spend your entire life with half the world thinking you killed your sister when you knew you didn't do it? BURKE was exonerated years before the documentary was produced.
Julian Assange You are very uneducated and thank goddess you have no part in our judicial system.. You should look online at the evidence that they have put out.. The police have evidence and believe they know who killed her but, he's dead now. It's the same as John Walsh son Adam.. Both of his parents passed the lie detector so you guys saying the parents knew, yea ok.. This is the problem with people.. It's GUILTY until proven innocent.. Look how many people have been exonerated because PEOPLE like you rush to judgements..
Right, despite the fact that they have the perps DNA. Which makes it an absolute certainty that it wasn't one of the family members, but Julian De Lion watched 2 minutes of a youtube video and knows better then science.
you should watch CBS show "The case of : Jonbenet Ramsey", they told DNA is not a strong evidence .. btw,, if you watch the Burke interview ,, you can tell that he tried to avoid a lot of thing and reply with " i don't know" ,,
@@j4kgang921 the brother did the hitting his sister on the head, as the program said she was already brain dead, she wasn't coming put of that alive. The parents tied her up & strangled her.
Candi, Detective Steve Thomas had said that even if Burke had done it, the law would not have done anything to him as far as punishment. Maybe a few years in therapy, then set free.
@@Salena905 If you followed the evidence, you would know that JonBenet was strangeled FIRST. The headblow came at or near death. Unknown male DNA cleared ALL Ramseys over a decade ago, along with hundreds of other suspects. Keep up. #factsmatter #followtheevidence #justiceforjonbenetandherfamily
The thing that had me thinking it was him is that the parents realize one child is missing and don't know if anyone is still in the house, could be several people and they don't keep him close by, they let him "sleep" in his room without telling him what's going on. That and him hitting Jonbenet on the head with a golf club a year prior.
@@kerryhansen882 they called afterwards. although i heard somewhere that 1 call was made just before they called 911. cant remember to whom though. and to me personally... i really cant hear much or anything on that very "end" of the 911 call :s ... english is not my first language... so its not "natural" for me to hear distant bad quality whispers :D though i agree... there were people talking with each other. and that... quite calm. after her being "out of breath panick mode". and in the docu that this video here is about...... damn they did a great job "picking" that call "apart". it makes sense and shows the weirdness of it.
@@kerryhansen882 No you could Not. One needs to Think about WHY that Evidence of the recording was put on a TV programme & in the early stages of the investigation. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He told John & Patsy that she hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke was in the background & asked them why they lied in saying he was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. He refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Typical form from that Proven Liar It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. AFTER that Desperate 911 call, where Patsy was expecting that woman to say - "the cops are on their way" but Didn't, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies - For Help.
Because it’s been 20 years since she died and its something he can look at without feeling grief. Try to think about something that happened 20 years ago in your life and tell me how you feel about that memory now.
I personally believe it was the mother, she wrote the note, made the dodgy call to the police, and showed a lot of remorse at the press conference. Also she was a pageant mother she forced the child into pageanting and the girl did not like it. She was very slim clearly starved to stay slim, they mentioned she had eaten some pineapple late at night maybe the mother was unhappy with this and hit the child because of this? Sounds like a case of child abuse to me.
Suzy Killa None of the parents would’ve covered up for the other if it was either, so let’s just get that out the way ... If Patsy murdered her daughter you can bet your ass Jon would’ve murdered her or vice versa, Burke did it and they saved the only child they had left.... The only other thing that would make sense would be, Jon was guilty of molesting his own daughter and Patsy pretty much threatened to tell everyone if she went down for the murder.... Which would mean that as sad as it all is, either way the little girl was suffering in that family. Whether it be Abused by Mom, Raped by Dad, Bullied by Bro or maybe even worse ? all 3.
@@kilotw1446 they kept their dark family secrets hidden for the reason of lime light fame with pageants. The dad, or someone close to them potentially was sexually abusing her I believe. I know sadly first hand that child beauty pageants, mainly high glitz level involves predators. The son imo struck her, accidentally knocking her on conscious. Parents found out. They staged the note with the threat she will die if police are contacted... knowing full well if found dead, it was only due to them calling police and doing "the right thing" in the eyes of the law. It covers for any angles that would leave jonbenet alive in any scenario. The brother is guilty, but out of fear from both losing another child, to the sexual abuse coming out, maybe even just bad publicity they panicked and patsy who most likely fancied herself a star, actress, made the note and phone call. That's my theory
I doubt but he knows who did it. The fancy knot on the garrote shows an expert sailor or someone who is into knots...she was tortured in a satanic ritual style ( look it up ). She was sexually abused on routine basis...many trips to the doctor for issues with bladder infection ; bed wetting....Burke was smearing feces....on walls. These children were screwed up, had emotional issues, classic with abuse. That murder would have been too much for a 9 year old to execute. Kids kill but not in that sort of ritual.
Watch him talk to Dr. phil. He quickly moves his eyes down and instantly back towards Dr. Phil TWICE. One time is enough to constitute accusations of lying when being investigated, and he did it TWICE
Joe Jones I feel like you could be right, he could have done it on accident, by maybe pushing her down the stairs, and when the parents came down all they could think to do is cover it up. Idk?
I think the mother wrote the ransom note. There were over 200 similarities in patsy's handwriting and the note. I think she wrote the note to cover up suspicion towards the Ramsey's and focus on catching an anonymous serial killer on the loose. The whole pineapple incident throws me off a bit, because it could go either way. If you watch the interview with 9 year old Burke Ramsey being interviewed by police you can see he has a disconnected attitude. He couldn't answer simple questions like being able to identify a bowl and pineapple. Why was he unable to say the word "pineapple" ???
He knew exactly what that was. He even said "oh..." as if he realized what it was then his confidence was shaken, he went from smiling to no smile and "ummm" and "aahh"s. For a treat they had quite often, it's suspicious how he couldn't identify it from a picture.
Max E shows what you know! Pasty and John both were cleared by 4 different hand writing experts. they were framed by the intruder to make it look like they kill JonBenet.
If i found one of my kids taken at night while we were sleeping,i wouldn't let the other one out of my arms..Just saying.Not telling him.."stay in your room",while my friends comfort me and my husband...They are covering up for someone...its just sad that the little angel died for nothing and will probably never get justice!
Everyone loves and misses JonBenet. No one cares for Burke and calls him creepy and a murderer. His jealousy and hate sealed his fate. He is going to break. Drawn out by the almighty dollar and will sink like the titanic. Everyone knows in their gut Burke did it. Now he shows the world his true character and confirms what the majority already feels. He murdered his sister. If only he showed remorse and expressed love for her, but he is all about himself.
@@ariloves10 You're just a despicable person, but then again there's a whole cult just like you. Ignorant & hateful for no reason at all & it's all towards a 9 year old Kid.
The Jesus Freak 7777777 yes!! I was just about to post that same comment!! Makes me wonder if a bat was what was really used in hitting Jonbenet over the head!! And if it was him, or John Ramsey who uses it!!!
No it wasn't . It was typical sensationalism with no facts that really said Burke had killed his sister. It was all conjecture and it is like telling a fairy tale and then at the end they state that after being investigated Burke was found innocent. How many 9 year olds do you know murder their sister? CBS and the other MSM depend on sheepholes like you to watch this crap.
@@maryellen7940 There have children have murdered younger children. I think her resented her because of all the attention she got. That he was able to hit her with a golf club under her eye. It might have been an accident.
An accident is not necessary a murder intent...making it an accident that was covered up. I thought it an excellent documentary and not intended to do anything but inform. Lawsuit is about money for them and money for the lawyers and here is a good chance at both...maybe if he acted like a grieving family member and stopped smiling?
I agree with you it was an excellent documentary. I struggle to conclude that is NOT Patsys handwriting. It so obviously is. She even denied that her own handwriting was her own. Her body language in interviews is wrong, indicating guilt and cover up. I too agree with the Burke did it camp!
Murder cover-up ; accidental it may have been, but the claim about the kidnapping certainly changed the description of the cover-up.....it went so far as eliminating any crime scene therefore posturing as innocent victims . They did a terrific job at that. It was not cheap, but certainly worth not going to jail. Patsy was wondering what to pack for jail, just to be on the safe side. No one told her, you don't pack for jail. Ha.... There are accidental deaths where families are exonerated while, there are others, that are so heinous, you have to follow the rabbit hole where ever it may take you. That little girl's death was certainly the latter, in my opinion and I expect we may never solve that crime.
Troy Goldbert Maybe he's uncomfortable with being hounded about this all his life and trying to act nonchalant? Maybe after decades he's no longer grieving? Don't give up your day job jest yet, Dick Tracy.
Lana DelRaids He's not been in the limelight for decades, how do you know what he's been doing anyway? Yes, he doesn't act quite right since he was accused of murder at the age of nine. How in the hell would you act? Spare us your armchair psychiatry.
No... It's called due process. The laws on liable and slander exist for good reason. Freedom of the press exists to protect them in reporting the TRUTH. They're still on the hook for reporting lies and speculations as the truth.
James Brady that sounds reasonable. When I wrote that comment I was on a ‘brotherly kick.’ With my won continued research, I feel further from knowing what happened than anything. Thanks for keeping me in check.
Elizabeth Dewitt , Been there... Done that... And was thankful to those that helped me out. Thank you for taking my comments in the spirit they were meant.
Burke was Never a suspect & the DNA alone Cleared all Ramseys a very long time ago. It is now 2021, 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Swedish Holmberg the lawyer said when Burke saw a magazine cover he cried because he's a very private person, I've never heard a 9 year old being called a private person.
That documentary by CBS was very well done and I watched it with great intent. Instead of suing CBS, Burke should've just offered his help in solving this case once and for all. But, as shown in the CBS documentary, he never gave a shit about his sister - even hit her in the face with a golf club. The ransom note showed signs of the writer being female, maternal and some parts matched Patsy's handwriting. Just watch the documentary - I dare you. Especially the part with the cobwebs in the basement window; they were perfectly in tact after the murder, when in fact, they would have had been destroyed by someone going through that small window. I'm fully convinced that either Burke or the parents killed that girl.
I agree, there was never a break-in. The father did his best to mess-up the crime scene to cover up what actually happened. The son killed her in a fit of rage.
Burke is strange and could have very well killed his sis and the parents helped cover it up. Excellent series. Worth checking out. So sad for JonBenet.
Yes, he's odd, but wouldn't you maybe be a little odd if your little sister was murdered and you and your parents were assumed to be the killer? He's obviously socially awkward but it's not surprising to me, considering what he's gone through. There's another theory that the killer was John's oldest son from his first marriage who would have been 21 at the time. It's also possible that this half brother could have been molesting Jonbenet and Burke.
Alicia C First of all, she said "could have"...she didn't say he definitely did it like a lot of people do. Secondly, people are allowed to speculate. There's nothing wrong with that. People can't help but be intrigued by cases like this that are still unsolved.
I’ve dealt with a 9 year old with psychotic traits and he used to hurt his sister daily out of jealousy. I lived with those kids for 6 years. Don’t for a second think just because someone’s 9 they cannot be truly evil.
Hard to say, in a way it's pitiful the way they covered up for the only child they had left. Must be true what they say about a mother's love being unconditional. But you're right,Burke is nuts and really needs to be put away for life.
I think he did it, the parents knew it, and I'll tell you why... Chris Watts in Colorado did an interview in which he said his daughter "was going to start school". He referred to it her in the past tense. Susan Smith gave a press conference in which she said her kids "were" good kids. Past tense. Those people knew they were talking about someone who was dead, and they inadvertently said something that gave it away. In a similar scenario, John and Patsy Ramsey gave an interview after the murder in which they were asked "would you like to see the person who did this get the death penalty?" Patsy broke down in tears, and John said "I'd like to see them get the strongest penalty allowed by law", or something to that effect. They knew the son did it. Patsy couldn't bear the thought of losing her son, and John knew his son would likely be charged as a juvenile if he were charged at all. Her reaction and his careful wording gave it away. What parent wouldn't say "yes, I want the bastard that did this to die"?
You make a good point about their reactions. But there have actually been family members of murder victims who have said they don't want the killer to die. Not everyone feels the killer's death will fix everything.
george,religious people don't allow death penalty,as they don't allow abortions either! Religious peoole tend to forgive murderers and rapers wich is beyond my understanding. As America is a vety religious country I am not surprised at all that most of them forgives and others applauds them. "Oh what a wonderful person who forgave the murderer" blah blah. So I see nothing weird about the parents in this case not wanting death penalty for the murderer,as in Chris watts case Shannans mother did not want death penalty for Chris!! I would have wanted it for him,to have him sit on death row for many years and then finally that day,boom! but no,he gets to enjoy life in prison with letters and visitors and good food and tv. Prisons are not like in the past,they are very different now,people don't "rot" there as many believe.
@@mrsTraveller64 This is true. I am Christian. I do support the death penalty. If state has it that is fine. I am not one that taking that person's life. I would forgive person so healing could occur. However, forgiveness never means accepting what someone did. I can assure there are many Christians who think in regards to adults. Children it depends on what happened.
When Burke answered that he did no kill her sister with flashlight he looked down -not in the eyes of that man WHY???? And her arm was shaking all the time//// And that laugh ((((
How many kids have hit their sibling out of frustration. I’m sure he didn’t mean to kill her but he did. They told him to stay in his room and DO NOT COME OUT !
Tracy Repple no he didn’t. None of it points to him. They had multiple keys into their home. The fact a note was written. She was choked and molested. The clues point to her mother. She obviously wasn’t alone as this is more like a cult sacrifice.
@@nyahmanismommy money buys silence. They also told Burke to stay in his room. It was an accident out of frustration. I guess we will never know. It’s heat breaking 😕
I'm hoping that he'll be sent to live in one of those specialist "hotels" where he can relax in the hotels lovely "calming white rooms" where they are so luxurious all the walls are covered in "soft padding ". & also he can get to wear the all inclusive "safety jacket ." 🤪,. 😉😉😁😁😁
The parents covered it up because they were fearful that they were going to lose everything; their money, their status in the community, their jobs. How they were viewed in society was more important to them.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
These are the assholes who on the day their daughter was found dead refused to speak to the police without an attorney. Sure, that's their right, but would any innocent parent behave in that manner? I am a lawyer and see behavior like that as a sign of almost definite guilt, unfortunately the police were not able to find the evidence to prove it.
I totally agree. I mean why did they invite all those people/friends to the house. Then John is already booking a flight to get away from the place within hours of finding JonBenet's body. Any 'normal' parent would want to cooperate fully with the police, not obstruct. They hired their own investigative team...money wealth speaking out here...it looked like they were trying to disprove anything the actual police were doing. None of it fits with their protestations of innocence.
Robin Sattahip The cops are not your friends. They want a conviction not the truth. If you're an attorney you should know that. What mail order school did you attend. That's law 101.
That's because he's a software engineer, not because he's guilty. Software people don't connect well with normal people -- look at Zuckerberg for example.
@@davidcosborn1 it doesnt matter, trying to convince people otherwise is like trying to tell a pigeon not to fly. They think because they seen a document on a subject that they're a expert when they know literally nothing. The document series obviously had a narrative it was trying to get across and the people who put it together are willing to ruin lives for money.
@@Guyrandomducttape1 A person above was 100% secure of what happened. I will say the person has a barely functioning brain. I am not convinced he did not do it, but we have the DNA (one expert in the comments told that maybe the DNA was hers, the expert does not know about the XY stuff). Maybe he did it, I am not here to put my hands on fire for him, but CBS should have done better.
The Blue Haired Lawyer. Callous? He speaks of her in a "callous way"?? Are you fricken kidding me? Theres nothing callous about him. Nothing. Why are you being such an ass? This boy did nothing wrong, was never charged or even considered a suspect. So why are YOU being so callous??
The Blue Haired Lawyer- He wasn't laughing...he was smiling and thats not callous. Not everyone reacts the same to certain situations like you or I. He was nervous and had anxiety, and if you watch his dad, he smiles a lot too..its familial. I consider myself a nice, normal, kind person, but when Im in certain situations, for example the dentist office, I talk more because Im nervous, the same goes for funerals..I get 'giggly' That does not make me callous or a murderer. Its nerves. This poor kid was 9 and in bed when a sadistic murderer snuck into his home in the middle of the night on Christmas, stun-gunned his little sister while she slept, covered her mouth with duct tape, carried her down to the basement, sexually molested her with a broken paintbrush, fashioned a complex garrotte and tortured her, and for the coup de grace, cracked her skull wide open. Burke's world was forever changed in one single night. Then he finds out that judgemental, uninformed people are somehow blaming him for this heinous act, such as in this fictional video. Now, I could ask you how you would react to all of this, but this isnt about you or me. People need to take their ego out of this equation. This is solely about how this affected Burke. Also, there are so many mistruths about this horrible murder, and I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone would even contemplate that Burke or any of the Ramseys had anything to do with this. Burke was never ever considered a suspect, there was never any evidence that any of the Ramseys had anything to do with this, they were never charged with anything...yet people feel or think they 'know'. This was a happy, healthy family with absolutely no history of abuse. None. This video is just packed with lies and propaganda.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Who talks about their sister's death and smiling? He has always smiled in interviews the Psychopath smiles discussing his sisters death most kids head would be down and they'll be quiet and you would hear words like I don't know this b**** needs to be locked up ASAP
He looks extremely nervous and socially awkward. If your sister was murdered when you were 9 years old, and everyone blamed you and said all these fucked up things about you; then had to lead the rest of your life in seclusion, under a cloud of suspicion, and having awful things said about you, you’d probably act weird and have (social) anxiety and not so great social skills too. Plus, on top of all that there is evidence that Jon Benet and probably Burke too, were being sexually abused.
msawesome lady he it walking about the media attention as though he is bragging about it. Smiling and laughing about his sisters death, might be awkward but he doesnt seem sad at all about her death.
He has smiled and shown no fear of something like this ever happening to him next, the same way Scott Peterson did when questioned about his wife's disappearance! Psychopath 100%!!
Okay, but what if we already thought he did it before watching the show? Why isn't he suing every other show and UA-cam chanel/video In the internet that is saying he did it?
*This re-examination was VERY logical and well constructed!* Everything they analysed was relevant and did a phenomenal job of elucidating numerous possibilities! The official autopsy was erroneous. Furthermore them saying “people don’t read disclaimers” yet they don’t mention the DA not saying “the grand jury voted to indict them but my team is saying there isn’t evidence.” Until this documentary, we never knew that pineapple was in her system, and indicates a timeline and possible motive. Furthermore, I ALWAYS said it was very strange that a giant flashlight was just sitting in the middle of the kitchen counter next to the toaster. I’ve never seen that in ANY home. I also completely agree with the transfer DNA and DNA being found on clothes that is left on brand new clothes after the manufacturing process.
I agree with you!! I've never seen this documentary but I've always said that he killed her bc the pineapple and milk was a snack mom made for him. Some was in her system not digested. That tells me she took a bite, pissed of the brother he hit her over the head with something she died so the parents sent him to his room and staged a cover up and not a good one. That's why the rest of the pineapple and milk was not eaten and why what she ate was not digested even though she was supposed to have died hours later after being put to bed and after the parents went to bed many hours later. The pineapple would have been digested by the time that would have happened. They got their story straight with their son and pretended to find the (ridiculous) letter! Making him stay in his room all day!! Letting anyone in the crime scene. The parents where not morons that wouldn't know better. Then dad finding the body and disturbing it. Putting a blanket over her! Come on he's not dumb. He knew what he was doing. Creating reason for doubt for defense. As for the touch DNA they showed there (christmas) house the day before to anyone who came. Lots of people in and out. They could have rubbed her underwear on a door nob or something to achieve that! I don't see why this isn't obvious to everyone! He was a jealous boy and picked on her alot. He did this!
@@breann7913 Like soo many others, you're spouting a load of Rubbish about a crime that you Know Nothing About. I have posted the Basics of What Actually Happened on this thread. The Authentic autopsy report Proves that JB did Not Eat Any of that fresh pineapple & Thomas Haney Told Patsy that the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of her small intestine, was Different to the pineapple in the bowl & the colours were yellow, light green-tan. What was in her stomach was viscous to green to tan Unidentifiable material. It takes 2 hours for food to go from the stomach to the top of the small intestine. The Perps gave JB pineapple fruitcake in the early hours & a bit more at about 5.30 a.m. If the cops were called, The Plan was to strangle this child to death with the cord when the cops were called, Then just after that, several blows to the head in total & 3 weapons in total were used to cause the huge Open fracture down nearly the length of the skull & then the Hole. The overkill was also pre-planned & that's Why the gross fractures were precise & the weapons used were at hand. The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol for Boulder County. The transcript for Patsy & John's police interviews of '97. '98 & 2000, can be found at a site - Shakedown FYI - Burke was taken to the White's at 7.15 A.M. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After the Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies For Help. Officer French was the First person to arrive, within 6 minutes of the start of that call. The Cops let the people in lovey. The Cops also called 2 victim's advocates to come. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. John Asked Arndt If he could blanket over her & Arndt said Nothing so he did so. That is from Her Own Mouth. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago. It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? Only morons believe Patsy did That! You have No basis to say that Burke was jealous of his little sister Nor do you have Any basis to say that he picked on her a lot. Wake Up To Yourself.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@@DylanFowler This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
@@bethryan9077 they fu ckedup the crime scene from day one by letting loads of people into the house, by the time forensics got there, there wasn't much evidence left. 80% of murders are domestic. And from what little evidence we have including the witness statements, it's clear they covered up for the brother.
He was 2 weeks away from his 10th birthday which would make him the age of possible prosecution. Even if he did kill her I don't think he should have been imprisoned even to this day. Kids know what's right and wrong at the age but the lack impulse control, understanding of consquences and empathy. I agree tho he should have been sent to a safe place where he could receive treatment and kept away from other kids
It would be changed his life forever. Whole world would count him as maniak. And it would be shame for parents. Also doctors could find him mentally sick and force him to treatment.
@@ariloves10 Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m. & the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. He just said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long til cops arrived? After calling 911 she called the Whites & Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim's advocates. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what they were going to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured near that boiler room. The huge pee staining on both undergarments prove that. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. Both these factors & position is why there is such large pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off & never found. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME chunks of pineapple were in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the bits in the top of the Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick on the top of the head & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no money was paid. Their back-up was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do btw. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 4 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with chunks of pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on many of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.
Seeing him smile in every interview gives me goosebumps. The documentary was well done and details were well explained. Instead of sueing, why not help them? He’s guilty. Duh?!
i believe he is on the spectrum, no empathy no compassion i’ve dealt with people on the autism spectrum and they just walk away from you not knowing it’s rude or how it makes the person they’re with feel, saying and doing things that normal people are taken aback by! some are high functioning and you would have to know what to look for to even know they were on the autism spectrum!
Both he and his father were contacted multiple times, and both refused to speak on camera, or speak to the investigators on this show. To me that clears CBS as the Ramseys had the opportunity to tell their stories....just adds more doubt in my mind of his innocence
kerc Chan... but the Ramseys DID speak to the medias. After JonBenet's death, they even talked to the medias BEFORE talking to the police. Which is hehhhh. The people in the documentary were profilers and a retired FBI agent. Not journalists.
I truly believe that Burke Ramsey Killed his sister Jonbenet. He was volatile and problematic, jealous and angry. Unfortunately, it was waiting to happen. The smallest thing would have set him off. And if it wasn't the pineapple it would have been something else. Her breathing was too much for him to take, let alone talking, walking, smiling, laughing and getting any attention. This is a sibling so jealous he smears his feaces on his sisters candy and Christmas presents.
The documentary series was a brilliant fact-based analysis of the case. That Burke Ramsey has filed a lawsuit shouldn't sway anyone's opinion as to whether or not the documentary series accurately depicted the events in question. The fact of the matter is that 1 the task of a guilty person is to act in the exact way that an innocent person would act. Thus, from the point of view of the guilty person, an innocent person would sue, therefore I must file suit. 2 I have personal experience with the galling amount of entitlement people in positions of power and wealth have as it relates to those who they have victimised and/or those that have dared accuse them of crimes and it is clear that the perpetrators of terrible crimes will say and do anything to avoid accountability for their actions, including the targetting of people who tell the truth about the crimes they've committed. The outrage of the person in question (Burke Ramsey, in this case) is not about the accuracy of the documentary series (or lack thereof, though it is a very good analysis) but it is about the outrage of the perpetrator that someone dare utter the truth of their crimes publicly, which cannot be tolerated. 3 Suing is also a necessary rear-guard action. In the mind of the perpetrator, despite his guilt, he has to publicly proclaim innocence in an attempt to sway public opinion to his side, as the failure to do so and therefore rally at least some people to his cause could likely result in enough of a groundswell of popular demand that the individual in question (Burke Ramsey) be held accountable for his crimes that the demand simply becomes overwhelming and, in the process, sufficiently motivates people in positions of power to undertake decisive action to hold the perpetrator (Burke) accountable for his actions. Making the attempt, however dubious, to win at least some people to the perpetrator's side, by the perpetrator himself, an absolute necessity. The fact of the matter is the documentary series in question is the best (only) reasonable explanation as to what actually happened to Jon Benet Ramsey and it is for exactly that reason that Burke Ramsey must, for the sake of his liberty and reputation (what little reputation he has) that he undertake this extraordinary and galling act of public deception.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Blah blah blah what a load of Rubbish put out by someone Else who Doesn't Know a damn thing about the crime, the case or about what was Actually perpetrated upon the poor child but mouths off like a Witch Finder General anyway. Shame on you for all you've said about a 9 year old Child.
Gabriela There is literally no indication that this creepy man is autistic. This has been confirmed by no one. Also, he maintains eye contact with Dr. Phil throughout the near entirety on the interview. That’s very impressive for an autistic person. Autistic people have an extremely hard time maintaining eye contact for extended periods of time. I’d know, my mother and my youngest brother are autistic. Please stop misdiagnosing people like you’re certified. Stop saying this man is autistic when there is literally no proof of that anywhere.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@ Majorie Dickinson Let me ask you about that. How many cases have you been involved in where you were analyzing the demeanor and conduct of parents who had a child found murdered in their home; what is your experience in that type of a case? Do you have any experience, formal training, in how psychologically or otherwise one expects a parent to grieve when a child has been murdered? You require a change of mindset of assuming that you are right in how others should respond to situations and that those who respond differently are wrong.
You don’t have to be an expert, you just need common sense. They supposedly thought it was a kidnapping, and the ransom note said that they would be calling at 8:00-10:00 with info about where the money was going and how to get their kid. But that time period came and passed, and the policewoman said that none of them said anything or seemed to notice. What does that imply? That they already knew that no phone call would be coming, that no kidnapping had actually taken place, that they knew more than what we initially believed they did. Is the similarity between the kidnapper note and samples of Patsy’s handwriting just a coincidence, I think not! Why would an intruder spend precious time writing a kidnapper note in the house, when they could have done that even before they entered the house? How would they know exactly the amount of money John would make as a Christmas bonus, namely, $118,000? If we go and say that Patsy wrote the ransom note, what does that imply? That the parents knew something about the killer and were trying to send the police in a wrong direction. But why would they do that? Why would they protect the killer of their own child? It had to be someone very close by, someone much closer than a friend of a friend, and Burke is the only one who both benefited from JonBenét’s death (he was jealous of her), and had the position most to persuade the parents to side with him. He was their child as much as JonBenét was. They lost their daughter, they weren’t about to hand their son over to the authorities or the news media to make a spectacle of him. No, they sent him to his room and then did everything they could to make it look like JonBenét’s death was the result of a kidnapping gone wrong. Patsy wrote the ransom note, John tied the loose bindings on his daughter. Yet for all their efforts, they still couldn’t convince the police that something wasn’t fishy. No one’s been charged with the murder, but they are far from being cleared in my mind. Also, the DNA does not clear them like people says it does. DNA is like a fingerprint, it can be damaged. And the more the source of the sample passes through multiple hands, the more likely it can come from a mixture of places. A manufacturer?
Loads of people got shocked by the fact that B was smiling during the Dr Phil interview, claiming he was nervous (also stated by Phil) but in the interview right after the murder, he was also smiling and just nine years old. Creep
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago. The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues. N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True. *You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent. It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Burke Did it.. He Freaked OUT cuz he caught JonBenet eating his Pineapple Treat and he Lost it and hit her in the head with the Flashlight.. CASE CLOSED!!!
They did a great job making that documentary. We found out information that was never even revealed. I never knew he hit with a golf club. It has been proven that he was not in bed. The 911 operator was never even interviewed by the police.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
@@Biscuitii87 Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m. & the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. He just said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long til cops arrived? After calling 911 she called the Whites & Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim's advocates. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what they were going to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured near that boiler room. The huge pee staining on both undergarments prove that. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. Both these factors & position is why there is such large pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off & never found. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME chunks of pineapple were in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the bits in the top of the Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick on the top of the head & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no money was paid. Their back-up was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do btw. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 4 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with chunks of pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on many of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.
omg don't be friggin Ridiculous. You are a totally biased person because of all the BS told about this case. For people like you, he could have stared at the wall & he would have still been - 'something or other'.
@@Biscuitii87 You ignorant people say what you do yet you don't know a damn thing about the crime, the case Or about what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Just Shut It
The phrase "six year old beauty queen" should not even exist.
Never heard a more spot on accurate statement. It sounds repugnant, repulsive and mentally warped to use such a phrase.
Better yet...the phrase : " six yr old Murdered" Shouldn't have ever happened period.
Exactly. She was a 6 year old LITTLE GIRL. A daughter, a sister.
Most of us can sympathize with their horrendous loss. RIP JonBenet
RIP also for Patsy who died not knowing who did this to her child smh
so sad
berja. nope! I cannot sympathize with their loss. because a loss insinuates an accident. something that they had no control over. JonBenet was not lost she was murdered she was tortured. I don't sympathize with those people at all. and as long as people continue to sympathize with child murderers they will always continue to exist and continue to hurt kids. just like the people that murder their kids by leaving them in a car. that is never an accident. it is always murder. you might forget a kid for five minutes but to leave a kid in a car to die no. you totally forget a kid that you have taken care of for a day, a week, a month, six months, a year, 2 years or 3 years? bullshit, that is murder. but the murderers have realized that is a way to get out of child support or this is a way to hurt the X-partner and not go to prison as long as I cry on TV. the minute the first person got away with that crime it open the floodgates for all of the rest of the murderers to get away with it and that's exactly what's happening. just like the women that murdered their babies claiming postpartum depression the first bitch got away with it and open the floodgates for the rest of those whores to kill their kids and get away with it but if you notice once the first Justice decided to throw the bullshit flag and send a whore to prison for killing their kid siting postpartum depression have stopped. now you notice that no bitches are killing their kids anymore claiming postpartum depression because now they're like oh I might go to prison if I do this shit so amazingly they stopped. the same thing needs to happen with these monsters torturing and killing their kids by leaving them in the car. Start sending them to prison for life and you will see that they will start remembering their damn kids and kids will not be murdered in the damn car anymore. but unfortunately child rapist will always exist because they are a different type of creature no matter what you do too certain types of people they will always be evil so the only thing that you can do to them is simply kill them when they're discovered and people need to stop saying that nonsense that it is Revenge and not Justice or the silliness two wrongs don't make a right. rapists and murderers need to die.
They had nothing to do with the "murder" of their own child. People need to get off the ignorance train and actually go back to the very beginning, don't read the media hype- read what the Ramsey's said-NOT what the media misconstrued in their zeal to convict someone, ANYONE, for this horrendous crime.....
I agree, rapists and murderers SHOULD die, they DESERVE to die, they committed a crime & justice needs to be upheld but the Ramsey's had nothing to do with it, Not Patsy, not John, not Burke, not anyone in the Ramsey clan period. The police f'ed the case up from day one and from the first moment they stepped into that household.
The documentary highlighted every single important details they never even bothered to look at. Its sad to know that the justice systen failed her. This case need to be reopened.
I agree!!! Very powerful analyzation.
@@usaf2226 What douche bag you are! I bet you're a bully. You know it is a proven fact that people like you have mental issues. Work on them first. then come here for opinions.
@ calm down a bit here, i respect your opinion, but as what I know, the brain and heart has their own functions, when someone gets bloated or hit intensely on the head, breaking the skull, it wouldn't instantly kill the person, the person's heart will still function, that's why the suspect strangled her to death. And the DNA that was found on her undies ain't a proof that she got rapedー if she were raped, then there would be bloodー or straight up, different fluids, but there's none. The DNA that's found was the DNA from her wearing the new undies, or from the manufacturers of it. If she got raped, then why did the suspect decided to do it on their house rather than actually KIDNAPPING JonBenet and left a 3-page 'ransom note'? how could the suspect break in, if they couldn't even really fit on the window as what the case stated? If the suspect went in by the window, then the webs and dusts and all of that would wipe out, plus the space of the window is really really small, if the suspect had break in, it would wipe out all the webs from the window(it has pictures from the actual crime scene it obviously can't be possible if a random spider just made a really old-looking web on the window of the basement at the time after the suspect did their job, right?), as when the suspect would, obviously, slide into the window due to the small space. And there were to signs that someone broke inー the dusts didnt spread out at the opening of the window, and when the suspect would come out from where he broke in, then the suspect would completely clean that spot. I am not saying that there WEREN'T people who looked at Jonbenet in a sexual way, or basically building up sexual desiresー but I am stating the logical sense here.
Plus she didn't have marks or her wrists where she's 'tied up'
@@usaf2226 Tough! You hate it! A lot of people like it. It's time to learn that people are different and have different personalities. As long as they don't hurt you, they are entitled to their own account, photos, social media, opinions, and life in general. For all we know this person can have a beautiful personality and a much better life than you and me. So why are you being so disrespectful and a bully? Stop that.
It took approx. 20 minutes for the "intruder" to write the three page ransom note using stationary (pen & pad) owned by the Ramseys. That indicates it was written in the house. What self respecting "intruder" takes the time to do that?
ikr, and TWO practice papers on the trash, then it probably, logically, took more than twenty minutes, and also mentioned a very specific amount of money, the suspect obvisouly know that the Ramsey family had lots of money, why didn't the suspect just said a million dollars?
Well if an intruder came into the house while the Ramsey's were out to dinner. They would of had a couple of hours there to scope the place, write the letter.
A creepy stalker with no where better to be.
@@Raven.13 n Wong a court certified handwriting expert noted 200 similiarities between Patsy's writing and the note. Have you compared? It's impossible to tell the difference between Patsy's writing and the note. It's ASTONISHING!!!!
@@Raven.13 And why would a kidnapper brutally murder her & leave her there? The purpose was supposed to be to get money. Kidnapper don't murder kids, leave them in the house along with obviously phony ransom notes that advice them to get rest. Who tells sleeping people to get rest? And what kidnapper cares if you're well rested?
The DNA evidence points to “an unknown man”
The “ransom” note tells the story of a cover up, not a kidnapping!!!
Yep, a ransom note of a child that is still in the house? Yeah right. and when they could not find the body and were ready to leave the father says, you idiots. let me check again, oh, there she is.
@@DennisAllums Yeah. Why would anyone botther covering up a crime with a ransom note and not move the body. Either this is the stupidest cover up ever, or a really smart child molestor. What better way to produce confusion than that? Please tell me of a way. I have thought about it and it is by far a great idea.
Also everyone says they had someone on the force cover it up. if that is the case, why would that person not tell them to bury the body? Anyone within the justice system knows a body means a lot. Without a body, there is largely no case. Also, a decomposed body goes a long way with helping cover a crime. look at the case anthony case.
Also the mother would have cracked under that police interrogation. Cops have over a 85 % batting average and the ones who dont crack have already been charged with a crime.
There is only two people it could be, a really smart intruder that stalked the family or brother whom attempted to cover it up all by himself.
The stun gun marks on the child's body rules out the father.
@@bornfree8073 and the DNA they found on her underwear that was male and foreign (didn't match anyone in the house). It was a predator and I believe it was someone they had contact with prior and didn't know. If the police didn't focus solely on the Ramsey, they probably would have been able to help qith a list of guests and any other acquaintances instead of getting a lawyer.
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@@Blue201033 NO INTRUDER!!!! JUST THEM
wouldn't it be funny if he sued for 118 thousand dollars?
Harley Quinn
Bruh
Harley Quinn the rich get richer
That was one of the first things that really indicated that it was an inside job. John Ramsey is worth millions. If it were an actual kidnap attempt, no kidnapper in his right mind would as for $118,000 dollars, that's an insult. Little JonBenet probably made close to that in 6 months in her beauty pageants.
As of right now you have 118 likes 😮
or starts the lawsuit: "Listen carefully...!" and signs: S.B.T.C. Victory!
Beauty pagents should be outlawed. They're sick and wrong.
At least those were children are displayed.
Pedophiles are sick and wrong
It's like the drag queen perversion shows but made for pedophiles.
@@robinluich5576 Perversion? What?
You cant ban something just because you don’t like it
Who else wishes that Dr. Phil would have asked burke why he was smiling?
Skier Slope Dr Phil answered that question if you watched the whole show about Burke !
I did not see a smile! I saw nervousness and he was extremely uncomfortable. That indicates something!
He was nervous and he probably thought if he smiled he would appear friendly. But you are too stupid to figure that out.
He said why he thought he smiled.
He did
Burke said the Docu-Series implicates him in a crime he was never charged with. He didn’t say it implicates him in a crime he didn’t commit.
Deary, Burke was Never even a suspect & he did that interview with Dr Phil because that doc was due to be released & he wanted to defend himself & to tell the public that there was Never Any evidence against Any Ramsey. It was only After that Bogus doc was put on TV that all the endless Garbage started about him, from all the hateful numbskulls who don't know a damn thing True about the crime, the case Or about what Actually happened to JB.
All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long long time ago with a mountain of actual Evidence & by actual Experts.
@@bethryan9077 yea sweetheart, and OJ is innocent too. The cops were incompetent, in both cases. No evidence of a break in. 2 practice ransom notes found in the kitchen trash can. Ransom note had phrases commonly used by Patsy. Ransom note, and practice ransom notes were in Patsy’s handwriting. “Kidnappers” happen to request a ransom of exactly what John had just received as a Christmas bonus - $118,000. Maybe Burke is innocent, but someone who lived in that house did this. No question about it sweet pea!
Point. And reminds me of when Patsy answered a question with "I didn't do it. John didn't do it. We don't know who did it." She purposely did not include Burke in that response.
@@MahlonEdwards I don't know how old you are, but Burke was Never a suspect so that's why she didn't mention him.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. **From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs.
Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage.
The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country.
The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.
Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing.
The Ramseys & Loads of others. who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues.
N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect.
The Bits You Think You Know About this Crime - Are NOT True.
*You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
**The BPD have issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022
I think this case will never be solved because the involved one(s) did a very well cleaning up job and paying off one too in order to become invisible to the law. That's it. It will never be clarified. I believe the killer lies within the family. But they used their means to make everyone believe it was a stranger, a "perpetrator". Sadly, money and power are stronger than that poor little soul who needed justice made.
Edit: thanks for the likes!
WHY WOULD ANYONE Want her dead ?
It will never be solved because the local police department failed to properly clear the crime scene ..And the father contaminated the crime scene when he picked up his daughters lifeless body at the time ..
DearMakeUpDiary They have DNA of the killer. It is possible.
“... did a very well cleaning up job and paying off one too...”
What the fuck is your grammar??
According to the head detective it was the father... you can find that interview on here and it is definitely the most powerful non-tangible evidence ever...
Doesn't everyone smile and dart their eyes when asked if they killed their sister?
John C
That guy looks sick.
Too bad that the truth can't be discovered.
John C I have sever anxiety and shcizo personality disorder and i do things like that anytime I'm in a group of more than 3 people. There is a very good chance he developed a mental condition because of all this and having everyone calling him a murderer at 9 years old would do a lot of damage to a developing mind.
Hunterkai thank you.
I suffered from an anxiety disorder and before I was able to get it under control and managed I used to, among other things, smile when socially anxious or severely distressed emotionally. Jumping to conclusions over something like this is idiotic, or at the very least demonstrates a significant lack of understanding of basic psychology.
I dart my eyes if I'm lying... 😗
but the documentary shows good points
Really, I haven't watched it yet
Mister Doctor you should. they make some very good explanations
***** Ok... But I'll rather let you explain to me offline ;)
Lana Moffitt I just finished watching it and I'm obsessed. They explain so much.
ikr after all the research I've done it covers and explains all or nearly all of everything while all the other theories usually don't explain for something. thus makes the most senese
six year old and beauty queen should not be in the same sentence.
that documentary has a lot of solid points.. tbh, isn't he the one who made himself look guilty?
And he won 750M $ in a lawsuit against CBS... All I can say about it is this quote: "Well played Moriarty... Well played."
Reiha he is, with his interviews the whole time he acted like he didn’t care she was dead
Arminius final amount was not disclosed but yes, he won and it was settled.
He doesn't seem to understand that people don't ENJOY the idea of him doing it. I think we ALL wished the evidence pointed to some creep pedo that we could track down and lynch. Nobody wants it to be the other child. But the footage of him talking to the police as a kid kind of gives people no choice but to consider it.
@Reiha In rereading your comment it just seems so absurd to hold that level of blame "Isn't he the one who made himself look guilty?" when discussing a freaking child. Now him as an adult . . . . Yeah, I think he's a pretty weird ass acting dude, but that doesn't mean he's guilty and clearly a court of law thought the same. A media company like CBS that has been in business for 91 years should know way better than to release something that blatantly wrong. They presented nothing of opposing arguments nor mentioned that he was cleared by the investigators back then. And I'm sorry, but I have major issues with some current day dipshit watching a one sided, intended to be inflammatory docu-series then acting like they are some expert who knows more about it than the people who were actually there doing the investigation.
Doubt anyone at CBS is losing any sleep over this.
Robin Sattahip I think you're right and for some reason I have a feeling this is going to back fire on Burke something bad.
Thanks,I spent 20 years in law enforcement and Boulder Police botched this terribly. Crimes like this with strangers rarely happen, a stranger would take taken her away. Also, for entertainment, Google the phrase "ransom note forged by mother" you don't even have to put the Ramsey name, and see what comes back.
Robin Sattahip PLUS The Boulder prosecutor ,was DEFINATELY shady ,either ,THREATEND,, or PAYED Off
*DEFINITELY *THREATENED *PAID Off
Robin Sattahip lmao right!
The documentary made a lot of sense though
it was concocted by cbs to make money for cbs. they dont care if they ruin any lives. the case was settled over a decade ago, cbs was just desperate for a human interest storie to make $$$
kerc Chan the case was settled decades ago??? Who killed her then?
@Vincent Cuttolo Ill tell you what a Master sg in the Illinois police dept told me regarding the case.
He said "John crimes like this in neighborhoods like that don't go unsolved for long".
@@tanyashah813 settled, not solved.
@Vincent Cuttolo Well you're wrong. With improvements in DNA we would have found him yesterday
Murder's their own sister and gets money off it. Dang. Justice doesn't exist
I think we can all agree that Burke Ramsey is one creepy guy either way?
Alexa Cadorette TRUE! And apparently he is looking for early retirement!
Alexa Cadorette Wouldn't you be creepy if your sister was murdered???
Arizona Skywatch you see plenty of relatives of murder victims in interviews. None of them laugh or smile, or act like this
Missy Raine ...extreme trauma can do that much damage to ppl personality.
I think Burke Ramsey is autisic, and thats why he is acting a little akward
Many people thought it was Burke well before this docu drama aired.
jessie SX
true. your pic is very beautiful by the way.
jessie SX the grand jury did.
jessie SX I did. For years
AGREED!!
My father did
Why he smiling all time. Creepy family. No one crying about JonBenet.
Patsy the mom cried quite a bit in the beginning
People smile out of nervousness or being uncomfortable and that's what I see. Why would you expect someone to still be crying 20 years later? I was very close to my grandparents who died about 10 years ago and I don't cry every time I talk about them.
I smile when I’m nervous, lots of people do.
Señor Romántico JonBenet wasn't raped. It's sad that her young little life was taken so early.
Watch Dr Phil's response to Burke's body language. Some people smile because they are nervous and coming to speak to the public who have accused him for years can be nerve wracking. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it but body language experts can tell the difference between nervous laugh and guilty laugh
“did you hit your sister with a flashlight?” burke: “no 😁”
Lmfaaaaoooooooo
The so called forensic old man (above clip) telling us she was hit also lied in the Casey Anthony case "Against" homicide and forensic specialist Dr. G who said Caley was murdered. Casey got off scot free :(
Plus he doesn’t give eye contact when he answers
I believe he is autistic
Absolutely not.. then looks left w a huge smile on his face. A monster!! Imo.. so he can't sue me. I've never ever started laughing by telling the truth. Disgusting man
I don't know who did it, but Burke is super weird.
Burke KILLED Jon Benet.😥.
He's autistic
autism.
@@SpecialBlanket thought same thing..
@@Sammy-mp9xn oh really?
I wonder how much it costs to be publicly, "officially cleared as a suspect". This doesn't happen to poor people.
100%
It doesn't?
@@rustinstardust2094 why don't you name to whom it happen and they were poor....give ahead, smart alec
@@Beachandpool I actually wasn't being a smart alec. I was surprised you said this because I thought this was a standard thing.
@@rustinstardust2094 it is a standard thing, that guy is just being an asshat. You can literally google “cleared as a suspect” and so much will pop up. Ted bundy was once cleared as a suspect, so was the green river killer.
The whole family is guilty in my eyes. Case closed.
👏👏👏👏
Only questions I would have had for John is did you know Patsy wrote the letter and Burke killed Jon Benet.
Software engineer..I said he was intelligent on my Twitter. Smart monster.
@@katrinaellis2378 Clever little psycho
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came to the U.S. from Puerto Rico when younger with his family. The other one was 24, white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a Long time ago.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all said 4 No Ramsey wrote the note.
"I was scared."
This is clearly a lie. In all of his interview as a child, there was no signs of him being scared. You think he would be since her sister was killed inside their own house. There was no sign of empathy towards his dead sister. None at all.
This case is one of those cases that proves that, you can get away with murder.
Yeah in his own words im just getting on with my life with a big smile on his face one day after, when asked to draw a picture of his family only draws him and his parents no sister looks like he was jealous of the attention she got from the mom in them pagents
And watching him skipping down the road in front of his sister's coffin smiling looks like he was so happy he couldn't contain it
There was no intruder. Wake up guys.
@GR A HOW DARE U
Everyone is different. I was a very calm kid who never really showed emotion. Does that make me a murderer. I’m still a very mellow adult. I laugh at it now because my cousins told me they thought I was going to be a serial killer. Some people think I’m cold hearted but I’m just not an emotional woman.
IF A KID OR AN ADULT IS SICK MENTALLY THEY ARE NOT SCARED.
he did it. parents covered. solved case.
Stop it! You have no right to be so slanderous, I don't believe he did it & you have no evidence. I hope (he) sues the shit out of "CBS"....that damn outlet should be a shamed, as well as you people!
I dont get this how can you say there is no evidence there is more evidence that it was the family that it was an intruder explain me what kind of child kidnapper knows what he is gonna do and doest even come with a rescue note ready he just decides to write it while inside the house from a notebook that belongs to patsys and a fucking 3 page long one that would probably take him without thinking about the words probably 20 min to write and he had to think about the words and they found and that was the third time he is writing it since they found 2 more who the fuck would stay that long inside a house first evidence right there jonbenet had pinaple on her stomach still so she had to be killed probably in the following hour that she ate it so if the intruder was there he had to go to jonbenet room exactly as everyone went to bad since she had eaten for a while now and kill her instantly why do that and leave a ramsom note if you know that she is dead makes no sense what so ever.
All the dna samples that proved the ramsey family inocent were discarded since the scene was contaminated at the time and dna on her underwear couldnt be proven to be from the murderer the only evidence that says there was an intruder its the ransom note that has a lot of similarities with patsys hand writting and was from her note pad there is a lot more evidence but this is already a long text as it is so i am not gonna add more its just sad she still didnt got any justice after so much time
According to the actual head detective that was actually there at the actual crime scene when jonbenet's body was found actually dead believes that it was the father but I'm sure you're right and she's wrong...
What happens if a hitman shot and killed Burke. Would justice be served? Or use the justice system which failed here.
And that is why Burke will win this case against CBS because he will forever be branded as killer as strongly suggested by their docu.
The whole family gives me the creeps. The son is 29 years old when he's being interviewed by that idiot Dr. Phil and replies to his question like he's still 9 yrs old..."I didn't know if there was a bad guy that my dad was trying to chase off with a gun"...Who talks like that at 29 years of age? The mom and dad gave off super strange vibes too. None of them were the least bit convincing. Pay close attention to their interviews and to how the son is practically crawling out of his own skin when he talked to the psychologist. Extremely odd answers and reactions.
Yes, because they are all conspiring Murder!!!
@stan sorensen Remember that goofy ransom note they "found"?
You're not going to rephrase a statement if that's how you were coached to say it
Esp when burke asked what’s inside the bowl. For me the psychologist hit the guilt nerve out of burke. They should open the case.
Do you have a link to his psychologist interview?
His bizarre attitude on Dr Phil makes him look even more guilty
Did you ever think that maybe he has a bizarre attitude because he has had a bizarre life? Think about it.
Did you ever think that maybe Dr. Phil was paid to have different feelings about the Ramsey’s than what the evidence of the interview clearly indicates, and now no expert is willing to contradict him? The Ramsey’s are still powerful. John is fighting for himself and Burke (and Patsy posthumously) even now. I don’t think he’s searching to find the person who murdered his daughter (although that would be the natural thing for a father to do). I think he’s searching for an innocent person to pin it on so that Burke can walk away.
@@brianbommarito3376 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
He is not guilty, stupid. The documentary is garbage. BTW he won 750 million dollars
His child interviews were enough to accomplish that= "Mom and dad are crying sometimes and I'm just going on with my life," He's maintained that attitude as an adult.
"...A crime that I was never charged with" ?? That sounds like "getting away with murder" to me.
i know right...i mean maybe i am not a criminal expert...but im no stupid for calling an intruder killed that poor little girl IN her own house after looking all the evidence,also the ransom note?? geez who the hell need 21 minute to write a ransom note...knowing exact place where the note pad and the pen was,and after wrote it they put it back in place
@@dinihanikram6431 Very Few know that in 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. And that was way back Then. All can read the 93 page document online. Besides Actual evidence talked about, Carne is scathing about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong in relation to all the BS they told about this case. And, Wong had No qualifications to call herself a writing analyst in the first place. Her vids show Fake writing on a whiteboard as If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & as If from police files, all Fake. Thomas never worked a murder case before & only cared how his hair looked for the cameras. He constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He was sued for that book of Lies but many in the public domain don’t know about That & still see him as some sort of hero & Repeat his BS. Many unscrupulous so-called ‘authors’ followed his lead & put out Their versions of BS.
The Boulder PD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. Of course, that was Before Steve Thomas set his sites on his delusions of grandeur & blamed Patsy because of a notepad. He was sued for all his lies & lost every cent. In his desperation for fame & $$, he hadn’t found out/been Told about the Second severe fraction to JB’s skull, being a Hole. Besides many of the other gross injuries & sadistic acts to her person, in one word - Torture, that he Dismissed. I suppose he looked good for TV though.
Alex Hunter was one of the few who had full Integrity, Lou Smit was another. These men Saw all the evidence known about in those early stages, the public & the grand jury Did Not.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago.
It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up
Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
@@dinihanikram6431
Ya, you are.
He doesn't see to mind talking about the case IF HE'S PAID.
Agreed. Plus the absolutely obscenely massive amount of money he sued for demonstrates the greed in his character.
@@ferreroroach9153 why can't he?? they accused him of murder!
@@suzykilla4923 cause he probably did it.
Of course he's paid, probably plenty! Twenty years will heal and minimize any emotions he may have had over time; most people heal and get over a trauma. However, I detest his continual smile over the interview, it is not a grimace, it seems more of a pathological smile, slyly defensive in nature.. But to be fair, he WAS questioned in an accusing way so defense would be normal, but after all these years, when you're paid plenty? Seems he could have "acted" in a more lamenting fashion! It would have been more appropriate!
Wow..the great awakening continues..trying to feel any sympathy for Burke or his Dad is hard. My heart goes out to an innocent child who was forced to live her Mother's dream. This case is heartbreaking.
Rest in peace JonBenet and Patsy Ramsey 🙏🙏
I found the documentary thorough and logical in its entirety. The piece of pineapple in her stomach, the fingerprints on the bowl and glass, the train tracks being the likely piece of instrument used to prod his sister in the side, feaces found on her candy that she got the day before, burkes habit of putting feaces in her bed etc, his past behaviour and him hitting her with the golf club are what make me believe he killed his sister. Also the utterly strange demeanour ( on both occasions) he was displaying while interviewed , lack of emotions such as grief and fear of the alleged killer of his sister’s all speak volumes in my opinion. The cobwebs in the window where the supposed intruder would have entered etc. I have no doubt that he killed his sister. It’s clear as day to me. It’s all very sad.
Dam, where did you get those facts. I concluded he did it without that stuff. This is a slam dunk. I guarantee hell drop the suit. this is all for show. Its a PR technique.
I agree
You people watch too much csi and law and order.
Internet Police No people like Dennis above you already had a feeling he did and watching that documentary was icing on the cake... He killed his sister and the parents covered it up, everybody from their neighborhood knew it, the police knew it, whole damn town knew it.
Kilo TW I have a feeling you did it
I think Burke he has lots of mental issues, maybe PTSD having to deal with a death of his little sister, or maybe him murdering her.
We never know, I do think he’s a strange man and he smiles.
Good thumbnail pic you should be a x-star
Rick James Yeah you really do seem like a libtard. Burke surely is weird as he is smiling a lot during the interview. Yeah it could be out of nervousness, but normally if you’re smiling out of nervousness you’d say sorry or say outloud that you’re not smiling at the situation but because you are uncomfortable talking about the death of a loved one.
He's has high functioning autism its obvious.
@@gregeryrenfro7237 No it´s not. You can´t just throw random diagnosis on people.
I noticed years ago his father smiles when ask seriously questions to maybe its herriditary
Here’s a psychopath suing because he is being confronted with facts
Actually here is a falsely accused person who is incredibly wealthy now. They settled out of court for hundreds of millions of dollars. If I were him, I would smile all the time too
Nope, the case was not “settled” for a payout, it was “settled” as in ended and Burke can not try to sue them again. Read the court documents! The case did not go past the discovery phase because the Ramsey team did not let it go past that point. They did not want to risk all the grand jury evidence being opened up again and brought out in court. Burke did NOT “win” or get a payout and the CBS documentary is still allowed to be aired!
@@blondepinkie3987 they aired it before the lawsuit. I know for a fact that CBS did indeed settle.
@@playenimplayenim6319 you are mistaken, read the court documents! The documentary is STILL allowed to be aired NOW and Burke didn’t “win” anything. You think if he had just got millions like you claim that he would have sold his house and downgraded as much as he did? The court documents do not support what you are claiming whatsoever!
@matthew Dreyer nope, PLENTY of evidence he did it and his parents covered for him! The only reason he is not in jail is because he was under the minimum legal age for prosecution under Colorado law at the time he killed his sister! 🤷♀️
He’s in his late 20’s but his interview with dr Phil made him seem like he was 16 (the way he carried himself and the way he spoke). 🤔 it’s interesting I think, plus his lack of emotion (no anger or frustration shown)
He's autistic!
@@darlenepaul2934 yeah i read somewhere that he has a developmental delay
After so many years emotions and expressions change.
mee_mii you realize that some people just don’t show expression
@@darlenepaul2934 I wondered about that just by his behavior in the interviews. My daughter and I both have ASD (mine diagnosed at age 35) so I can often pick up on the traits and tics.
The most happy relatives of the murdered member of the family I have ever seen. I am speechless.
O O it’s been 20 years
he killed so 🤷🏻♀️
Yup. Too happy...
exactly even during the ceremony where they buried her they were all abnormally calm
I bet your family will be even happier when your time comes.
Burke done it, parents covered it up, money did the talking and plenty are on Jon s payroll .
Him and Dr Phil and his Dad share the SAME LAWYER!!! CROOKED
Isn't Lin Wood now in Congress?
I saw that documentary and is the best I've seen regarding this case, they tried to reach the father and his friends but but they wouldn't talk, actually the White's spoke to them but off camera, so they actually did the journalist job right trying to get all the parts versions.
Jonathan Castro they have not been cleared that’s crazy. That DA should not have said that. They lawyered up and got a PR person very early. This is similar to the Madeline McCane case rich people with money to buy their own justice. The rules and laws are only for poor people.
@@jdr9419 true
Absolutely.
@@jdr9419 The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs.
Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage.
The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country.
The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.
Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing.
The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues.
N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True.
*You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
So obvious it was Burke and parents covered it up
THAT'S why he's suing CBS for $750,000,000! Because after watching their documentary that presented only circumstantial evidence suggesting he might have been involved, millions of people like yourself think he is guilty! CBS FAILED TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT EXONERATED HIM, despite calling themselves "journalists", implying they are objective and presenting all the facts! How would you like to spend your entire life with half the world thinking you killed your sister when you knew you didn't do it? BURKE was exonerated years before the documentary was produced.
Jessica S, NAPLES FL he was exonerated before when the police were doing a shit job. that means almost nothing.
he will have to talk and answer up to court in law suit cant wait. i heard fbi will be there
Jessica S, NAPLES FL no. That phone call that prove that Burke was awake when the Ramsey Calle the police wasn't circumstantial.
Julian Assange You are very uneducated and thank goddess you have no part in our judicial system.. You should look online at the evidence that they have put out.. The police have evidence and believe they know who killed her but, he's dead now. It's the same as John Walsh son Adam.. Both of his parents passed the lie detector so you guys saying the parents knew, yea ok.. This is the problem with people.. It's GUILTY until proven innocent.. Look how many people have been exonerated because PEOPLE like you rush to judgements..
Sorry, but it was obviously one of the Ramsey's
Right, despite the fact that they have the perps DNA. Which makes it an absolute certainty that it wasn't one of the family members, but Julian De Lion watched 2 minutes of a youtube video and knows better then science.
Cookie41Monster León*
Julian De Leon No it wasn't DNA proves it was an intruder.
you should watch CBS show "The case of : Jonbenet Ramsey", they told DNA is not a strong evidence .. btw,, if you watch the Burke interview ,, you can tell that he tried to avoid a lot of thing and reply with " i don't know" ,,
Ann Johnson your serious right? All the evidence points to them.
Burke creeps me out. I'm pretty sure he was the one who killed his sister, the ONLY reason I'm not 100% sure is because I wasn't there.
No he didn't. The. Adults. Did that!!
@@j4kgang921 the brother did the hitting his sister on the head, as the program said she was already brain dead, she wasn't coming put of that alive. The parents tied her up & strangled her.
I noticed too,someone in thefamily might be or accidentally killed her,then just tied her to make it not suspicious
Candi, Detective Steve Thomas had said that even if Burke had done it, the law would not have done anything to him as far as punishment. Maybe a few years in therapy, then set free.
@@Salena905
If you followed the evidence, you would know that JonBenet was strangeled FIRST. The headblow came at or near death. Unknown male DNA cleared ALL Ramseys over a decade ago, along with hundreds of other suspects. Keep up.
#factsmatter #followtheevidence #justiceforjonbenetandherfamily
Why the Brother Laughing when talking about not killing his sister
+Alma Wells her bed had no pee or poo stains
John Jeffry it was already explain by Dr. Phil on why he was smiling. Dr. saoiid he was just nervous and not ised being interviewed.
Daisy Jane Ling Don't think any people in a interrogation room laugh when accused of killing some one
+Enchanted Nightmare I use to burst out laughing at serious moments, like get accused or even receiving communion when I was a kid.
This guy looks mentally unstable ,if he laugh so easily wonder if he also get angry that easily
The thing that had me thinking it was him is that the parents realize one child is missing and don't know if anyone is still in the house, could be several people and they don't keep him close by, they let him "sleep" in his room without telling him what's going on. That and him hitting Jonbenet on the head with a golf club a year prior.
When she was on the phone you could hear him talking, and why would you call your friends before 911
@@kerryhansen882 they called afterwards. although i heard somewhere that 1 call was made just before they called 911. cant remember to whom though.
and to me personally... i really cant hear much or anything on that very "end" of the 911 call :s ... english is not my first language... so its not "natural" for me to hear distant bad quality whispers :D
though i agree... there were people talking with each other. and that... quite calm. after her being "out of breath panick mode".
and in the docu that this video here is about...... damn they did a great job "picking" that call "apart". it makes sense and shows the weirdness of it.
@@kerryhansen882 No you could Not. One needs to Think about WHY that Evidence of the recording was put on a TV programme & in the early stages of the investigation. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He told John & Patsy that she hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke was in the background & asked them why they lied in saying he was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. He refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
Patsy was using the Wall phone that was near the kitchen. In the Real recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Typical form from that Proven Liar
It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. AFTER that Desperate 911 call, where Patsy was expecting that woman to say - "the cops are on their way" but Didn't, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies - For Help.
Since when is 1993 the year prior to 1996?
2:40 Why the fuck is he smiling when hes retelling the day his sister died... And when he says no he did not.
Because he is guilty!
Because it’s been 20 years since she died and its something he can look at without feeling grief. Try to think about something that happened 20 years ago in your life and tell me how you feel about that memory now.
:3 / because as one of the interviewers said it's a nervous smile not a happy smile
If he killed his sister, for sure he's not the one who wrote the note...
I personally believe it was the mother, she wrote the note, made the dodgy call to the police, and showed a lot of remorse at the press conference. Also she was a pageant mother she forced the child into pageanting and the girl did not like it. She was very slim clearly starved to stay slim, they mentioned she had eaten some pineapple late at night maybe the mother was unhappy with this and hit the child because of this? Sounds like a case of child abuse to me.
Suzy Killa None of the parents would’ve covered up for the other if it was either, so let’s just get that out the way ... If Patsy murdered her daughter you can bet your ass Jon would’ve murdered her or vice versa, Burke did it and they saved the only child they had left.... The only other thing that would make sense would be, Jon was guilty of molesting his own daughter and Patsy pretty much threatened to tell everyone if she went down for the murder.... Which would mean that as sad as it all is, either way the little girl was suffering in that family. Whether it be Abused by Mom, Raped by Dad, Bullied by Bro or maybe even worse ? all 3.
@@kilotw1446 You havent thought that through at all
jon hope Oh I thought of a whole lot.
@@kilotw1446 they kept their dark family secrets hidden for the reason of lime light fame with pageants. The dad, or someone close to them potentially was sexually abusing her I believe. I know sadly first hand that child beauty pageants, mainly high glitz level involves predators. The son imo struck her, accidentally knocking her on conscious. Parents found out. They staged the note with the threat she will die if police are contacted... knowing full well if found dead, it was only due to them calling police and doing "the right thing" in the eyes of the law. It covers for any angles that would leave jonbenet alive in any scenario. The brother is guilty, but out of fear from both losing another child, to the sexual abuse coming out, maybe even just bad publicity they panicked and patsy who most likely fancied herself a star, actress, made the note and phone call. That's my theory
Burke did it. He did. He didn't men too. But He did.
I doubt but he knows who did it. The fancy knot on the garrote shows an expert sailor or someone who is into knots...she was tortured in a satanic ritual style ( look it up ). She was sexually abused on routine basis...many trips to the doctor for issues with bladder infection ; bed wetting....Burke was smearing feces....on walls. These children were screwed up, had emotional issues, classic with abuse. That murder would have been too much for a 9 year old to execute. Kids kill but not in that sort of ritual.
Watch him talk to Dr. phil. He quickly moves his eyes down and instantly back towards Dr. Phil TWICE. One time is enough to constitute accusations of lying when being investigated, and he did it TWICE
You don't accidently strangle someone
Joe Jones I feel like you could be right, he could have done it on accident, by maybe pushing her down the stairs, and when the parents came down all they could think to do is cover it up. Idk?
Lisa Adler she died from a blow to the head and the strangulation part was staged. at least according to the documentary
I think the mother wrote the ransom note. There were over 200 similarities in patsy's handwriting and the note. I think she wrote the note to cover up suspicion towards the Ramsey's and focus on catching an anonymous serial killer on the loose. The whole pineapple incident throws me off a bit, because it could go either way. If you watch the interview with 9 year old Burke Ramsey being interviewed by police you can see he has a disconnected attitude. He couldn't answer simple questions like being able to identify a bowl and pineapple. Why was he unable to say the word "pineapple" ???
He knew exactly what that was. He even said "oh..." as if he realized what it was then his confidence was shaken, he went from smiling to no smile and "ummm" and "aahh"s. For a treat they had quite often, it's suspicious how he couldn't identify it from a picture.
Max E shows what you know! Pasty and John both were cleared by 4 different hand writing experts. they were framed by the intruder to make it look like they kill JonBenet.
Via Cyn city Oh get real! Do your homework!
Only a crazed mother would go to such lengths to cover up for her child.
Patsy wasn't cleared of her handwriting. her results were inconclusive.
If i found one of my kids taken at night while we were sleeping,i wouldn't let the other one out of my arms..Just saying.Not telling him.."stay in your room",while my friends comfort me and my husband...They are covering up for someone...its just sad that the little angel died for nothing and will probably never get justice!
Burke was told to stay in the room like a punishment for making a mistake.
Like a probation.
The parents had to cover up the act to save the son
Especially “If” there was or had been a intruder in the house
He was grounded for killing her sister
Everyone loves and misses JonBenet.
No one cares for Burke and calls him creepy and a murderer.
His jealousy and hate sealed his fate.
He is going to break.
Drawn out by the almighty dollar and will sink like the titanic.
Everyone knows in their gut Burke did it.
Now he shows the world his true character and confirms what the majority already feels.
He murdered his sister.
If only he showed remorse and expressed love for her, but he is all about himself.
@@ariloves10 You're just a despicable person, but then again there's a whole cult just like you. Ignorant & hateful for no reason at all & it's all towards a 9 year old Kid.
He almost said baseball bat instead of gun when answering the question about him being In bed while police there
The Jesus Freak 7777777 yes!! I was just about to post that same comment!! Makes me wonder if a bat was what was really used in hitting Jonbenet over the head!! And if it was him, or John Ramsey who uses it!!!
Very good observation
@@MariahFan09 thank you
that was a brilliant documentary.
I think so too..
No it wasn't . It was typical sensationalism with no facts that really said Burke had killed his sister. It was all conjecture and it is like telling a fairy tale and then at the end they state that after being investigated Burke was found innocent. How many 9 year olds do you know murder their sister? CBS and the other MSM depend on sheepholes like you to watch this crap.
Indeed it was.
@@maryellen7940 There have children have murdered younger children. I think her resented her because of all the attention she got. That he was able to hit her with a golf club under her eye. It might have been an accident.
How do I find it
An accident is not necessary a murder intent...making it an accident that was covered up. I thought it an excellent documentary and not intended to do anything but inform. Lawsuit is about money for them and money for the lawyers and here is a good chance at both...maybe if he acted like a grieving family member and stopped smiling?
I agree with you it was an excellent documentary. I struggle to conclude that is NOT Patsys handwriting. It so obviously is. She even denied that her own handwriting was her own. Her body language in interviews is wrong, indicating guilt and cover up. I too agree with the Burke did it camp!
Murder cover-up ; accidental it may have been, but the claim about the kidnapping certainly changed the description of the cover-up.....it went so far as eliminating any crime scene therefore posturing as innocent victims . They did a terrific job at that. It was not cheap, but certainly worth not going to jail. Patsy was wondering what to pack for jail, just to be on the safe side. No one told her, you don't pack for jail. Ha.... There are accidental deaths where families are exonerated while, there are others, that are so heinous, you have to follow the rabbit hole where ever it may take you. That little girl's death was certainly the latter, in my opinion and I expect we may never solve that crime.
Mimi Cole it has been many years why would he still be grieving
Troy Goldbert Maybe he's uncomfortable with being hounded about this all his life and trying to act nonchalant? Maybe after decades he's no longer grieving? Don't give up your day job jest yet, Dick Tracy.
Lana DelRaids He's not been in the limelight for decades, how do you know what he's been doing anyway? Yes, he doesn't act quite right since he was accused of murder at the age of nine. How in the hell would you act? Spare us your armchair psychiatry.
I noticed whenever someone blames Burke or has something to do with Burke they sue. Anyone else finds that sketchy?
Elizabeth Dewitt
yea do you see all gang on you tube too i am thinking its bruke or lawyers lil fakes.
An excellent point. That action on their part would also contribute to their continuance of denial, deflection, lying and deception of the truth.
No... It's called due process. The laws on liable and slander exist for good reason. Freedom of the press exists to protect them in reporting the TRUTH. They're still on the hook for reporting lies and speculations as the truth.
James Brady that sounds reasonable. When I wrote that comment I was on a ‘brotherly kick.’ With my won continued research, I feel further from knowing what happened than anything. Thanks for keeping me in check.
Elizabeth Dewitt ,
Been there... Done that... And was thankful to those that helped me out.
Thank you for taking my comments in the spirit they were meant.
The accusation he was apart of it existed long before CBS did their special.
Burke was Never a suspect & the DNA alone Cleared all Ramseys a very long time ago. It is now 2021, 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Hes creepy, no doubt..even as a 9yr old
Swedish Holmberg the lawyer said when Burke saw a magazine cover he cried because he's a very private person, I've never heard a 9 year old being called a private person.
@@octaviancaesarhibernicus4447 he has a form of autism.
Octavian Caesar Hibernicus okay? Where’s this going lol
How ?
you're creepy.
That documentary by CBS was very well done and I watched it with great intent.
Instead of suing CBS, Burke should've just offered his help in solving this case once and for all. But, as shown in the CBS documentary, he never gave a shit about his sister - even hit her in the face with a golf club.
The ransom note showed signs of the writer being female, maternal and some parts matched Patsy's handwriting.
Just watch the documentary - I dare you. Especially the part with the cobwebs in the basement window; they were perfectly in tact after the murder, when in fact, they would have had been destroyed by someone going through that small window.
I'm fully convinced that either Burke or the parents killed that girl.
me too! The documentary fully proved that.
Yep
He’s autistic. Get over it
I agree, there was never a break-in. The father did his best to mess-up the crime scene to cover up what actually happened. The son killed her in a fit of rage.
@ i so feel you. these sad people are so willing to eat up anything the vile fake media feeds them. just be happy we're not that dumb!
Burke is strange and could have very well killed his sis and the parents helped cover it up. Excellent series. Worth checking out. So sad for JonBenet.
Yes, he's odd, but wouldn't you maybe be a little odd if your little sister was murdered and you and your parents were assumed to be the killer? He's obviously socially awkward but it's not surprising to me, considering what he's gone through.
There's another theory that the killer was John's oldest son from his first marriage who would have been 21 at the time. It's also possible that this half brother could have been molesting Jonbenet and Burke.
Modella if there's no proof you shouldn't go around making allegations
Alicia C First of all, she said "could have"...she didn't say he definitely did it like a lot of people do.
Secondly, people are allowed to speculate. There's nothing wrong with that. People can't help but be intrigued by cases like this that are still unsolved.
Qt pie-Second of all, youre a moron.
No the 9 year old is not a vicious killer dummy. Too much daytime television for you
I’ve dealt with a 9 year old with psychotic traits and he used to hurt his sister daily out of jealousy. I lived with those kids for 6 years. Don’t for a second think just because someone’s 9 they cannot be truly evil.
He got away with a crime and is now profiting from it.
He's another OJ, he'll go too far and get himself nailed.
You're a nut Terry or whatever your name is.
YTfancol He didn't kill his sister DNA cleared the family in 1998
Hard to say, in a way it's pitiful the way they covered up for the only child they had left. Must be true what they say about a mother's love being unconditional. But you're right,Burke is nuts and really needs to be put away for life.
YTfancol as above😡👎
I think he did it, the parents knew it, and I'll tell you why...
Chris Watts in Colorado did an interview in which he said his daughter "was going to start school". He referred to it her in the past tense.
Susan Smith gave a press conference in which she said her kids "were" good kids. Past tense.
Those people knew they were talking about someone who was dead, and they inadvertently said something that gave it away. In a similar scenario, John and Patsy Ramsey gave an interview after the murder in which they were asked "would you like to see the person who did this get the death penalty?"
Patsy broke down in tears, and John said "I'd like to see them get the strongest penalty allowed by law", or something to that effect.
They knew the son did it. Patsy couldn't bear the thought of losing her son, and John knew his son would likely be charged as a juvenile if he were charged at all. Her reaction and his careful wording gave it away. What parent wouldn't say "yes, I want the bastard that did this to die"?
You make a good point about their reactions. But there have actually been family members of murder victims who have said they don't want the killer to die. Not everyone feels the killer's death will fix everything.
I know he did it .!! Burke is a murderer .. he might even have forgotten because of trauma .. he did it
george,religious people don't allow death penalty,as they don't allow abortions either! Religious peoole tend to forgive murderers and rapers wich is beyond my understanding. As America is a vety religious country I am not surprised at all that most of them forgives and others applauds them. "Oh what a wonderful person who forgave the murderer" blah blah. So I see nothing weird about the parents in this case not wanting death penalty for the murderer,as in Chris watts case Shannans mother did not want death penalty for Chris!! I would have wanted it for him,to have him sit on death row for many years and then finally that day,boom! but no,he gets to enjoy life in prison with letters and visitors and good food and tv. Prisons are not like in the past,they are very different now,people don't "rot" there as many believe.
@@rustinstardust2094 yes,for example the Chris Watts case. His inlaws didn't want death for him. that doesn't make them side with him though.
@@mrsTraveller64 This is true. I am Christian. I do support the death penalty. If state has it that is fine. I am not one that taking that person's life. I would forgive person so healing could occur. However, forgiveness never means accepting what someone did. I can assure there are many Christians who think in regards to adults. Children it depends on what happened.
When Burke answered that he did no kill her sister with flashlight he looked down -not in the eyes of that man WHY???? And her arm was shaking all the time//// And that laugh ((((
Why didn't the police do this investigation in 1996. Why is a TV programme doing it. Very shameful.
How many kids have hit their sibling out of frustration. I’m sure he didn’t mean to kill her but he did. They told him to stay in his room and DO NOT COME OUT !
Tracy Repple no he didn’t. None of it points to him. They had multiple keys into their home. The fact a note was written. She was choked and molested. The clues point to her mother. She obviously wasn’t alone as this is more like a cult sacrifice.
@@ninanickel3103 it could be. But also could be any of the other theories as well.
Yes, that was either very protective or very suspicious!
Non of the family members DNA matched.
@@nyahmanismommy money buys silence. They also told Burke to stay in his room. It was an accident out of frustration. I guess we will never know. It’s heat breaking 😕
Why is he smiling when answering the questions?? So creepy.. 🤔
if you watch his interview at age 11 he has the creepy smile the whole time then too, he's evil
I'm hoping that he'll be sent to live in one of those specialist "hotels" where he can relax in the hotels lovely "calming white rooms" where they are so luxurious all the walls are covered in "soft padding ". & also he can get to wear the all inclusive "safety jacket ." 🤪,. 😉😉😁😁😁
He smiled all through the funeral too.
Burke is creepy as heck. Oh and that smile from hell while he's being interviewed makes it even worse!
The parents covered it up because they were fearful that they were going to lose everything; their money, their status in the community, their jobs. How they were viewed in society was more important to them.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
These are the assholes who on the day their daughter was found dead refused to speak to the police without an attorney. Sure, that's their right, but would any innocent parent behave in that manner? I am a lawyer and see behavior like that as a sign of almost definite guilt, unfortunately the police were not able to find the evidence to prove it.
I totally agree. I mean why did they invite all those people/friends to the house. Then John is already booking a flight to get away from the place within hours of finding JonBenet's body. Any 'normal' parent would want to cooperate fully with the police, not obstruct. They hired their own investigative team...money wealth speaking out here...it looked like they were trying to disprove anything the actual police were doing. None of it fits with their protestations of innocence.
Robin Sattahip The cops are not your friends. They want a conviction not the truth. If you're an attorney you should know that. What mail order school did you attend. That's law 101.
B Davis
Wow no wonder lol.
Robin Sattahip any good lawyer would ALWAYS say NEVER speak to police unless your lawyer is present
Bitch isnt really a lawyer. Shes watched too much Law and Order, at best.
The parents look straight in the eyes when asked if they murdered their daughter.
The Son is looking all over the place while denying
That's because he's a software engineer, not because he's guilty. Software people don't connect well with normal people -- look at Zuckerberg for example.
@@davidcosborn1 it doesnt matter, trying to convince people otherwise is like trying to tell a pigeon not to fly. They think because they seen a document on a subject that they're a expert when they know literally nothing. The document series obviously had a narrative it was trying to get across and the people who put it together are willing to ruin lives for money.
It’s more likely he as aspergers
David Osborne- Puhh lezzzze
@@Guyrandomducttape1 A person above was 100% secure of what happened. I will say the person has a barely functioning brain. I am not convinced he did not do it, but we have the DNA (one expert in the comments told that maybe the DNA was hers, the expert does not know about the XY stuff). Maybe he did it, I am not here to put my hands on fire for him, but CBS should have done better.
Burke is so dishonest looking. He's super creepy.
Imagine what his life has been like since age 9, though. That would emotionally mess anyone up massively.
Michele Of The Oaks Has dishonest "looking"?? My goodness that is the most ridiculous statement for assuming a person committed a crime..
Michele Of The Oaks It’s a good thing you’re not a cop or judge.
The Blue Haired Lawyer. Callous? He speaks of her in a "callous way"?? Are you fricken kidding me? Theres nothing callous about him. Nothing. Why are you being such an ass? This boy did nothing wrong, was never charged or even considered a suspect. So why are YOU being so callous??
The Blue Haired Lawyer- He wasn't laughing...he was smiling and thats not callous. Not everyone reacts the same to certain situations like you or I. He was nervous and had anxiety, and if you watch his dad, he smiles a lot too..its familial. I consider myself a nice, normal, kind person, but when Im in certain situations, for example the dentist office, I talk more because Im nervous, the same goes for funerals..I get 'giggly' That does not make me callous or a murderer. Its nerves. This poor kid was 9 and in bed when a sadistic murderer snuck into his home in the middle of the night on Christmas, stun-gunned his little sister while she slept, covered her mouth with duct tape, carried her down to the basement, sexually molested her with a broken paintbrush, fashioned a complex garrotte and tortured her, and for the coup de grace, cracked her skull wide open. Burke's world was forever changed in one single night. Then he finds out that judgemental, uninformed people are somehow blaming him for this heinous act, such as in this fictional video. Now, I could ask you how you would react to all of this, but this isnt about you or me. People need to take their ego out of this equation. This is solely about how this affected Burke. Also, there are so many mistruths about this horrible murder, and I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone would even contemplate that Burke or any of the Ramseys had anything to do with this. Burke was never ever considered a suspect, there was never any evidence that any of the Ramseys had anything to do with this, they were never charged with anything...yet people feel or think they 'know'. This was a happy, healthy family with absolutely no history of abuse. None. This video is just packed with lies and propaganda.
THE RAMSEY'S took "Keep it in the Family"👪 to a whole different new Level
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs.
Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage.
The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country.
The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.
Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing.
The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues.
N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True.
*You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Why even ask these questions on TV?
Dr Phil: Did you do it?
Guest: You know what, you've convinced me on live TV to confess...
Part of journalism.
Who talks about their sister's death and smiling? He has always smiled in interviews the Psychopath smiles discussing his sisters death most kids head would be down and they'll be quiet and you would hear words like I don't know this b**** needs to be locked up ASAP
He doesn’t look like he’s smiling in happiness, he looks really uncomfortable
He looks extremely nervous and socially awkward.
If your sister was murdered when you were 9 years old, and everyone blamed you and said all these fucked up things about you; then had to lead the rest of your life in seclusion, under a cloud of suspicion, and having awful things said about you, you’d probably act weird and have (social) anxiety and not so great social skills too.
Plus, on top of all that there is evidence that Jon Benet and probably Burke too, were being sexually abused.
msawesome lady I smile wen I'm upset
msawesome lady he it walking about the media attention as though he is bragging about it. Smiling and laughing about his sisters death, might be awkward but he doesnt seem sad at all about her death.
He has smiled and shown no fear of something like this ever happening to him next, the same way Scott Peterson did when questioned about his wife's disappearance! Psychopath 100%!!
Okay, but what if we already thought he did it before watching the show? Why isn't he suing every other show and UA-cam chanel/video In the internet that is saying he did it?
You thinking he did it before or after watching the show isn't really relevant.
*This re-examination was VERY logical and well constructed!* Everything they analysed was relevant and did a phenomenal job of elucidating numerous possibilities! The official autopsy was erroneous. Furthermore them saying “people don’t read disclaimers” yet they don’t mention the DA not saying “the grand jury voted to indict them but my team is saying there isn’t evidence.” Until this documentary, we never knew that pineapple was in her system, and indicates a timeline and possible motive.
Furthermore, I ALWAYS said it was very strange that a giant flashlight was just sitting in the middle of the kitchen counter next to the toaster. I’ve never seen that in ANY home. I also completely agree with the transfer DNA and DNA being found on clothes that is left on brand new clothes after the manufacturing process.
I agree with you!! I've never seen this documentary but I've always said that he killed her bc the pineapple and milk was a snack mom made for him. Some was in her system not digested. That tells me she took a bite, pissed of the brother he hit her over the head with something she died so the parents sent him to his room and staged a cover up and not a good one. That's why the rest of the pineapple and milk was not eaten and why what she ate was not digested even though she was supposed to have died hours later after being put to bed and after the parents went to bed many hours later. The pineapple would have been digested by the time that would have happened. They got their story straight with their son and pretended to find the (ridiculous) letter! Making him stay in his room all day!! Letting anyone in the crime scene. The parents where not morons that wouldn't know better. Then dad finding the body and disturbing it. Putting a blanket over her! Come on he's not dumb. He knew what he was doing. Creating reason for doubt for defense. As for the touch DNA they showed there (christmas) house the day before to anyone who came. Lots of people in and out. They could have rubbed her underwear on a door nob or something to achieve that! I don't see why this isn't obvious to everyone! He was a jealous boy and picked on her alot. He did this!
@@breann7913 Like soo many others, you're spouting a load of Rubbish about a crime that you Know Nothing About. I have posted the Basics of What Actually Happened on this thread. The Authentic autopsy report Proves that JB did Not Eat Any of that fresh pineapple & Thomas Haney Told Patsy that the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of her small intestine, was Different to the pineapple in the bowl & the colours were yellow, light green-tan. What was in her stomach was viscous to green to tan Unidentifiable material. It takes 2 hours for food to go from the stomach to the top of the small intestine. The Perps gave JB pineapple fruitcake in the early hours & a bit more at about 5.30 a.m. If the cops were called, The Plan was to strangle this child to death with the cord when the cops were called, Then just after that, several blows to the head in total & 3 weapons in total were used to cause the huge Open fracture down nearly the length of the skull & then the Hole. The overkill was also pre-planned & that's Why the gross fractures were precise & the weapons used were at hand.
The authentic autopsy report can be found online, the 1st page has the symbol for Boulder County. The transcript for Patsy & John's police interviews of '97. '98 & 2000, can be found at a site - Shakedown
FYI - Burke was taken to the White's at 7.15 A.M.
It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After the Desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies For Help. Officer French was the First person to arrive, within 6 minutes of the start of that call. The Cops let the people in lovey. The Cops also called 2 victim's advocates to come. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow.
John Asked Arndt If he could blanket over her & Arndt said Nothing so he did so. That is from Her Own Mouth.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to Clear people & Still.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already Cleared them all & Lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns. One is hispanic, the other was a white guy with fair hair. He was Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard when they left. Another vital Fact that has been swept under the rug because so many ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon & wrote books of BS for Financial Gain. All that false & misleading information, transferred to TV for the Same reason. And so, onto Utube ‘shows’. The brainwashing of the public began a long time ago.
It’s now 2022 & because of the many dedicated investigators who continued the search Unpaid, all is now known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up
Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For the Cops? Only morons believe Patsy did That!
You have No basis to say that Burke was jealous of his little sister Nor do you have Any basis to say that he picked on her a lot. Wake Up To Yourself.
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs.
Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage.
The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country.
The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.
Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing.
The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues.
N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True.
*You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
I will presume that you believe everything you read from a tabloid magazine also
We knew about the pineapple. its in theautopsy.
If the same thing had happened in a working class or poor family, it would've been solved on day 1.
R J you are slow..
R J, um okay, but it’s not so wtf?
Statistics would say the opposite
R J exactly. Look at the Madeleine McCann case. The same.
It is kind of true since the hierarchy would pay whatever the amount was to cover up anything
When someone says “absolutely not”, it’s almost always a lie.
That's because absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@@DylanFowler This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
@@bethryan9077 they fu ckedup the crime scene from day one by letting loads of people into the house, by the time forensics got there, there wasn't much evidence left. 80% of murders are domestic. And from what little evidence we have including the witness statements, it's clear they covered up for the brother.
He did it.. parents covered up to protect their only child left
Burke killed his sister, sue me Burke 😁
It was the father.
It was a pedo that was visiting their town look it up it was finally solved
No, it wasn't the brother. Come on, she had been previously sexually abused.
Adults in house are to blame
@@jeaninemorgan9118... That has not been proven.... It was inconclusive.
😂😂😂
Why is Burke smiling tho ??? TF
Nervous duh
Not really smiling.......more of An Uncomfortable smirK
Because they have asked him this thousands of times in many years.... Jiizes
@@j4kgang921 please ,,,,really idiot,,,,,,, Burk smile because is guilty 💯💯💯💯💯
When he did the interview with dr Phil he couldn’t look him in the eyes when saying he didn’t kill his sister?🤔
One of the characteristics of autistic people is that they cannot look someone in the eyes.
Aspergers is likely
Did he look him in the eyes at all in the interview? Honestly people much be absolutely terrified of anyone with autism
@Jan Smith No hes not wrong
I’m convinced that Burk was covered, all I don’t understand is that why they didn’t tell the truth when he wouldn’t be convicted bcz of his age
Mer Az He would have been-and should previously have been-institutionalized!
He was 2 weeks away from his 10th birthday which would make him the age of possible prosecution. Even if he did kill her I don't think he should have been imprisoned even to this day. Kids know what's right and wrong at the age but the lack impulse control, understanding of consquences and empathy. I agree tho he should have been sent to a safe place where he could receive treatment and kept away from other kids
It was Michael Helgoth and at least one other accomplice who left his DNA
Ego image fear
It would be changed his life forever. Whole world would count him as maniak. And it would be shame for parents. Also doctors could find him mentally sick and force him to treatment.
Even if he ain't guilty hes an odd bird.
I think anyone would be living through what he has.
You would be if you went through something like this
He will break. This is the start. Great Awakening in full force.
@@ariloves10 Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m. & the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. He just said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long til cops arrived? After calling 911 she called the Whites & Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim's advocates. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what they were going to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured near that boiler room. The huge pee staining on both undergarments prove that. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. Both these factors & position is why there is such large pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off & never found. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME chunks of pineapple were in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the bits in the top of the Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick on the top of the head & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no money was paid. Their back-up was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do btw. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 4 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with chunks of pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on many of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.
Seeing him smile in every interview gives me goosebumps. The documentary was well done and details were well explained. Instead of sueing, why not help them? He’s guilty. Duh?!
After watching every video of this case he did not do it it's either the parents or a very close friend
i believe he is on the spectrum, no empathy no compassion i’ve dealt with people on the autism spectrum and they just walk away from you not knowing it’s rude or how it makes the person they’re with feel, saying and doing things that normal people are taken aback by! some are high functioning and you would have to know what to look for to even know they were on the autism spectrum!
Some people smile when they're nervous. It does not indicate guilt
he wrote that note too I'd bet anything
@@kathleencastle8631 9 year old can’t print like that.
Both he and his father were contacted multiple times, and both refused to speak on camera, or speak to the investigators on this show. To me that clears CBS as the Ramseys had the opportunity to tell their stories....just adds more doubt in my mind of his innocence
a smart person does not talk to the media because they spin and lie about everything ever told to them.
kerc Chan... but the Ramseys DID speak to the medias. After JonBenet's death, they even talked to the medias BEFORE talking to the police. Which is hehhhh. The people in the documentary were profilers and a retired FBI agent. Not journalists.
The more they speak the media will twist it against them...
If he is guilty, just think how fucked up and sick he is, to cash in on murdering his sister. Like damn..
I truly believe that Burke Ramsey Killed his sister Jonbenet. He was volatile and problematic, jealous and angry. Unfortunately, it was waiting to happen. The smallest thing would have set him off. And if it wasn't the pineapple it would have been something else. Her breathing was too much for him to take, let alone talking, walking, smiling, laughing and getting any attention. This is a sibling so jealous he smears his feaces on his sisters candy and Christmas presents.
The documentary series was a brilliant fact-based analysis of the case.
That Burke Ramsey has filed a lawsuit shouldn't sway anyone's opinion as to whether or not the documentary series accurately depicted the events in question. The fact of the matter is that 1 the task of a guilty person is to act in the exact way that an innocent person would act. Thus, from the point of view of the guilty person, an innocent person would sue, therefore I must file suit. 2 I have personal experience with the galling amount of entitlement people in positions of power and wealth have as it relates to those who they have victimised and/or those that have dared accuse them of crimes and it is clear that the perpetrators of terrible crimes will say and do anything to avoid accountability for their actions, including the targetting of people who tell the truth about the crimes they've committed. The outrage of the person in question (Burke Ramsey, in this case) is not about the accuracy of the documentary series (or lack thereof, though it is a very good analysis) but it is about the outrage of the perpetrator that someone dare utter the truth of their crimes publicly, which cannot be tolerated. 3 Suing is also a necessary rear-guard action. In the mind of the perpetrator, despite his guilt, he has to publicly proclaim innocence in an attempt to sway public opinion to his side, as the failure to do so and therefore rally at least some people to his cause could likely result in enough of a groundswell of popular demand that the individual in question (Burke Ramsey) be held accountable for his crimes that the demand simply becomes overwhelming and, in the process, sufficiently motivates people in positions of power to undertake decisive action to hold the perpetrator (Burke) accountable for his actions. Making the attempt, however dubious, to win at least some people to the perpetrator's side, by the perpetrator himself, an absolute necessity.
The fact of the matter is the documentary series in question is the best (only) reasonable explanation as to what actually happened to Jon Benet Ramsey and it is for exactly that reason that Burke Ramsey must, for the sake of his liberty and reputation (what little reputation he has) that he undertake this extraordinary and galling act of public deception.
Excellent comment Adam.....
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs.
Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage.
The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country.
The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.
Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing.
The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues.
N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True.
*You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Blah blah blah what a load of Rubbish put out by someone Else who Doesn't Know a damn thing about the crime, the case or about what was Actually perpetrated upon the poor child but mouths off like a Witch Finder General anyway. Shame on you for all you've said about a 9 year old Child.
How come Burke Ramsey wasn't taken away from his parents by DCFS until this case was closed? Just in case he was in danger too?mmmm?
It was a very good series. Informative and reasonable.
“Absolutely not” as he smiles like a crazy person for the whole interview.
He needs to Admit himself somewhere! lol
It's a nervous smile
Gabriela There is literally no indication that this creepy man is autistic. This has been confirmed by no one. Also, he maintains eye contact with Dr. Phil throughout the near entirety on the interview. That’s very impressive for an autistic person. Autistic people have an extremely hard time maintaining eye contact for extended periods of time. I’d know, my mother and my youngest brother are autistic. Please stop misdiagnosing people like you’re certified. Stop saying this man is autistic when there is literally no proof of that anywhere.
He was nervous so chill
Give the guy a break,, he was nervous being interviewed,,, like I suspect.... Ever hear of a nervous smile??
Something so unsettling about how the family reacted from the start and all the odd evidence....
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs.
Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage.
The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country.
The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.
Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing.
The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues.
N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True.
*You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
@ Majorie Dickinson
Let me ask you about that. How many cases have you been involved in where you were analyzing the demeanor and conduct of parents who had a child found murdered in their home; what is your experience in that type of a case? Do you have any experience, formal training, in how psychologically or otherwise one expects a parent to grieve when a child has been murdered?
You require a change of mindset of assuming that you are right in how others should respond to situations and that those who respond differently are wrong.
You don’t have to be an expert, you just need common sense. They supposedly thought it was a kidnapping, and the ransom note said that they would be calling at 8:00-10:00 with info about where the money was going and how to get their kid. But that time period came and passed, and the policewoman said that none of them said anything or seemed to notice. What does that imply? That they already knew that no phone call would be coming, that no kidnapping had actually taken place, that they knew more than what we initially believed they did. Is the similarity between the kidnapper note and samples of Patsy’s handwriting just a coincidence, I think not! Why would an intruder spend precious time writing a kidnapper note in the house, when they could have done that even before they entered the house? How would they know exactly the amount of money John would make as a Christmas bonus, namely, $118,000? If we go and say that Patsy wrote the ransom note, what does that imply? That the parents knew something about the killer and were trying to send the police in a wrong direction. But why would they do that? Why would they protect the killer of their own child? It had to be someone very close by, someone much closer than a friend of a friend, and Burke is the only one who both benefited from JonBenét’s death (he was jealous of her), and had the position most to persuade the parents to side with him. He was their child as much as JonBenét was. They lost their daughter, they weren’t about to hand their son over to the authorities or the news media to make a spectacle of him. No, they sent him to his room and then did everything they could to make it look like JonBenét’s death was the result of a kidnapping gone wrong. Patsy wrote the ransom note, John tied the loose bindings on his daughter. Yet for all their efforts, they still couldn’t convince the police that something wasn’t fishy. No one’s been charged with the murder, but they are far from being cleared in my mind. Also, the DNA does not clear them like people says it does. DNA is like a fingerprint, it can be damaged. And the more the source of the sample passes through multiple hands, the more likely it can come from a mixture of places. A manufacturer?
@@brianbommarito3376
All Ramseys were cleared along with numerous others over a decade ago....get over it bro and move on.
Even w/o this docu the whole thing screams cover up.
The documentary didn't implicate him, he did that on the Dr. Phil interview.
1:56 whoever cut that guys hair needs a trophy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loads of people got shocked by the fact that B was smiling during the Dr Phil interview, claiming he was nervous (also stated by Phil) but in the interview right after the murder, he was also smiling and just nine years old. Creep
The BPD took the note to the Secret Service & they also hired 2 Renowned private experts, all 4 said No Ramsey wrote the note. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs.
Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under JB’s fingernails - unknown male DNA, mixed with hers. Steve Thomas kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas constantly talked about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury was to convene that more DNA tests were ordered. The blood was JBs & Same unknown male DNA - saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage.
The BPD & Steve Thomas, who had Never worked a murder case Before, were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD, whose officers Should have found JB early that morning though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they Failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. The broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And Steve Thomas withheld a great deal of vital evidence. The vote was never for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country.
The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were.
Steve Thomas illegally took evidence material from the BPD & resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, that was the precursor for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That also. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent. The investigation Continued along with a bevy of private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his integrity as a police officer & all his BS in that book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He did That to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with writing ‘samples’ As If Patsy’s, it’s all Fake. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing.
The Ramseys & Loads of others who included known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from that unknown male was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there.
The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA from the unknown male that had also cleared John Mark Karr who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the Whites Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push This vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the BS continues.
N.B. Who would Write a ransom note on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!
The public need to understand that this case hasn’t been to Trial yet & so - You Know Nothing About This Crime, The Case Or About What Was Actually Perpetrated Upon This Poor Child. BTW - Burke, Was Never Even A Suspect. The Bits You Think You Know - Are NOT True.
*You all need to get this Very Clear - You Do Not Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years have Also stated that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
It’s 2022 & All is now Known - the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up.
Burke Did it.. He Freaked OUT cuz he caught JonBenet eating his Pineapple Treat and he Lost it and hit her in the head with the Flashlight.. CASE CLOSED!!!
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But she was s exually assaulted as well. Why would he do that? Anger is one thing but the abuse makes me think it was the father.
@@r.m.90 no she wasn't! Do some research you spaz
@@jonnysupreme you do some research you simpleton
I’m glad he hasn’t heard what I’ve said. I don’t have much money. I really believe he did it.
Me too
They did a great job making that documentary. We found out information that was never even revealed. I never knew he hit with a golf club. It has been proven that he was not in bed. The 911 operator was never even interviewed by the police.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JonBenet’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true. There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages. . The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Real evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, forensic DNA Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing. All is in Evidence & a great deal is online for all to source. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online, but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new Utube 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews. All of the Same misleading & False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting. You people need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & it all must be true. * BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? There is something seriously very Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. There’s such an abundance of Ramsey bashers, the never-ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, never end. One would say - feeding the beast.
The ransom note says it all. The murderer is a cover-up
Let's just hope they follow through with new DNA testing and that it gets some answers.
It won’t. Just watch the documentary that the idiot of her brother sued for daring to tell the true.
Lin Wood should be ashamed for defending this murderous family.
I am convinced that the parents knew more than they admitted to.
You obvs haven't researched this case, bro.
@5:30 Jon Benets dad closes his eyes when he tells Barbara "no" he didn't kill her. Very telling sign when someone's lying.
And the wife didn't blink because she's innocent. The father is a narcissis that finished off his daughter to protect his only son
@@Biscuitii87 Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m. & the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. He just said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long til cops arrived? After calling 911 she called the Whites & Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim's advocates. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what they were going to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured near that boiler room. The huge pee staining on both undergarments prove that. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. Both these factors & position is why there is such large pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off & never found. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME chunks of pineapple were in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the bits in the top of the Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick on the top of the head & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no money was paid. Their back-up was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do btw. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 4 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with chunks of pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on many of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. Justice is coming.
omg don't be friggin Ridiculous. You are a totally biased person because of all the BS told about this case. For people like you, he could have stared at the wall & he would have still been - 'something or other'.
@@Biscuitii87 You ignorant people say what you do yet you don't know a damn thing about the crime, the case Or about what Actually happened to this poor little girl. Just Shut It