@@mariaayusiregar4731 Historically he was ruthless. He’s the worst scum of earth in sengoku era that deserve nothing but the worst, most painful death known to men. Let’s list some of his deeds shall we? He ordered his wife and son killed just because his superior/ally told him to. He promised to help Toyotomi Hideyoshi’s son beside his death bed, and then started a war to takeover. He killed Hideyoshi’s entire family for “a crime even heaven cannot forgive”. What atrocity have they done to deserve such rage? Well, apparently, they’ve done such an atrocious act like…… wrote a plaque for a local shrine wishing world (Japan) peace. Do note that they have absolutely no power to threaten him anymore. He said he wish for peace in Japan…. which has already been achieved by Toyotomi Hideyoshi AKA “monkey”, and he raised that peace to the ground by starting another war just for his ambition. Demand Uesugi Kagekatsu to go meet the emperor in kyoto so he could attack his defenceless land, when refused, he simply attacked anyway. It’s not really fair to only talk about his personal action, let’s see some of his allies shall we: Hosokawa Tadaoki, a psychotic freak who killed his younger sister’s husband, and cut off his female servant’s nose just because his wife believed in christianity. His daughter-in-law refuse to commit suicide, so he demand his son to divorce her, when he refused, he cut off relation with his son. Date Masamune, famous for shooting his own allies on the battlefield. Tōdō Takatora, changed his belief just to please Ieyasu. Kobayakawa Hideaki, the famous traitor of sekigahara, his betrayal directly resulted the crushing defeat of western army, and so many heroes within. These are his allies and vassals, does it really suprise anyone that he have such questionable allies? For comparison, let’s see the western army in sekigahara: Ishida Mistunari, even though he’s sure that he does not have the power to defeat Ieyasu, raised an army anyway just because he is that loyal to Toyotomi. Otani Yoshitsugu, a leper stricken man that joined western army knowing full well that they couldn’t win, just because out of the entire Japan, only Mitsunari gave him respect and does not shun him for his leprosy. Konishi Yukinaga, a christian of merchant descent, the lowest of lowest in sengoku pecking order, gave his life to repay Mitsunari’s respect of his belief. Shima Sakon AKA “the oni”, charged straight into the enemy and die fighting, he could’ve escape or surrender, but he prefer Mitsunari’s friendship than Ieyasu’s forgiveness. Gamō Yorisato Charged into massive easter army’s force even after Sakon was killed, and push them back again and again until been overwhelmed. Haratsuka Tamehiro, hold 10,000+ of eastern army’s forces at bay with 360 men. Takashi Yutaka, gave his life carried Otani’s head away from the battlefied, just so that his lord’s leper stricken face won’t be laughed at. See the difference here? Ieyasu and his allies started a war, killed these loyal heroes, burned peace to the ground just to stroke his ambition, and those are just the tip of the ice berg. He’s not a good man and never was. The Tokugawa shogunate tried to downplay and cover up those atrocities, but people knew better.
I think his death in 1616 as lifespan curse of Yukimura's attempt to kill Ieyasu in Osaka Campiagn during his relentless attacks because he supposed to died in that campaign as last confrontation of Toyotomi and Tokugawa,but he survived.Spirit of Yukimura and Ieyasu's victims who killed in merciless include Mitsunari,Toyotomi loyalist and Western army troops are still haunt him and will confront Ieyasu in vision and kill him when he is ill.He did escape his death fate in Osaka Campaign but his grim fate is still continue as killing by spirit of his victims for avenge their death to ending their suffering at his merciless hand without conscience of alternative to end conflict like sparing enemy life even harmless family members of Toyotomi clan but killing them all.
Tokugawa Ieyasu: At last, I have won! Japan is mine! Mwahahaha! Mori/Shimazu/Chosokabe: You lousy tanuki! We curse thee! Thy house will fall and our descendants shall rule the land! Believe that!
Shogun Ieyasu Tokugawa January 31,1543-June 1,1616 and decedent the last Shogun Yoshinobu Tokugawa October 28, 1837 - November 22, 1913 the Tokugawa family still exists one family member is iehiro Tokugawa born February 7,1965-
It was me who “debunked” those facts. He seriously needs to do a better job on his research, or he might have a guy like me (whom is getting is Masters in History AND has done research in Japan) make him look like a fool
@@lucaswibisono1316 I agree. Both are fine in their own ways. And tbh I do find it scary that many of the fans of Sengoku Basara Ieyasu forget what he was actually like in real life.
shut up bro the leiyasus of sengoku mouso and shabby in comparison, mdr the leiyasu of sgb was much more courageous and charismatic than this shit that temo gave us. lol I am 100% sure that you saw the sgb films because otherwise you would not tell such nonsense, because in the manga the leiyasu of sgb and became the main character of the work !
Yeah, I once really hate Ieyasu because of Spirit of Sanada, but when i research it all on the History Books, it made me more sympathetic towards Ieyasu, He just wanted a Nation without War, maybe He is tired to see Japan always killing each other, so He decide to become a Cruel and a Ruthless Leader at the 1600s to keep the Peace. What made me like Him cause He is very patient
@@mariaayusiregar4731 wasn’t he the person who instigated all the chaos around 1600 just because keeping up with other council members could be inconvenient to his clan lol.
@@mariaayusiregar4731 it’s debatable if battle of Sekigahara ever took place in Sekigahara lol. I meant everything that led to Sekigahara, Mitsunari’s “retirement” which eliminated Mitsunari and pacified three other magistrates, Ieyasu “assassination” incident which eliminated Maeda and Asano, Ukita clan conflict which greatly weakened Ukita, also Sekigahara was originally instigated by Ieyasu’s attempt to conquer Uesugi lol. Sekigahara was just a minor conclusion of a long-winding sequence of events.
@@mariaayusiregar4731 all that wouldn’t have happened if Ieyasu just chose to stay cooperative and maintain the coordination with other elders and magistrates.
Truly, Ieyasu is such a great man.
Agree, From a Hostage Child to a Shogun, Can't understand why people hate Him so much
@@mariaayusiregar4731 inspirational figure? Certainly. Good person? Heck no.
@@fyncheniteO I agree.
The guy wasn't actually a good guy.
@@mariaayusiregar4731
Historically he was ruthless.
He’s the worst scum of earth in sengoku era that deserve nothing but the worst, most painful death known to men.
Let’s list some of his deeds shall we?
He ordered his wife and son killed just because his superior/ally told him to.
He promised to help Toyotomi Hideyoshi’s son beside his death bed, and then started a war to takeover.
He killed Hideyoshi’s entire family for “a crime even heaven cannot forgive”. What atrocity have they done to deserve such rage? Well, apparently, they’ve done such an atrocious act like…… wrote a plaque for a local shrine wishing world (Japan) peace. Do note that they have absolutely no power to threaten him anymore.
He said he wish for peace in Japan…. which has already been achieved by Toyotomi Hideyoshi AKA “monkey”, and he raised that peace to the ground by starting another war just for his ambition.
Demand Uesugi Kagekatsu to go meet the emperor in kyoto so he could attack his defenceless land, when refused, he simply attacked anyway.
It’s not really fair to only talk about his personal action, let’s see some of his allies shall we:
Hosokawa Tadaoki, a psychotic freak who killed his younger sister’s husband, and cut off his female servant’s nose just because his wife believed in christianity. His daughter-in-law refuse to commit suicide, so he demand his son to divorce her, when he refused, he cut off relation with his son.
Date Masamune, famous for shooting his own allies on the battlefield.
Tōdō Takatora, changed his belief just to please Ieyasu.
Kobayakawa Hideaki, the famous traitor of sekigahara, his betrayal directly resulted the crushing defeat of western army, and so many heroes within.
These are his allies and vassals, does it really suprise anyone that he have such questionable allies?
For comparison, let’s see the western army in sekigahara:
Ishida Mistunari, even though he’s sure that he does not have the power to defeat Ieyasu, raised an army anyway just because he is that loyal to Toyotomi.
Otani Yoshitsugu, a leper stricken man that joined western army knowing full well that they couldn’t win, just because out of the entire Japan, only Mitsunari gave him respect and does not shun him for his leprosy.
Konishi Yukinaga, a christian of merchant descent, the lowest of lowest in sengoku pecking order, gave his life to repay Mitsunari’s respect of his belief.
Shima Sakon AKA “the oni”, charged straight into the enemy and die fighting, he could’ve escape or surrender, but he prefer Mitsunari’s friendship than Ieyasu’s forgiveness.
Gamō Yorisato Charged into massive easter army’s force even after Sakon was killed, and push them back again and again until been overwhelmed.
Haratsuka Tamehiro, hold 10,000+ of eastern army’s forces at bay with 360 men.
Takashi Yutaka, gave his life carried Otani’s head away from the battlefied, just so that his lord’s leper stricken face won’t be laughed at.
See the difference here? Ieyasu and his allies started a war, killed these loyal heroes, burned peace to the ground just to stroke his ambition, and those are just the tip of the ice berg. He’s not a good man and never was. The Tokugawa shogunate tried to downplay and cover up those atrocities, but people knew better.
@@sexgravy9058 well said. This is the obvious reason why people don’t like this dude.
Weird fact, Ieyasu's first spouse is related to Naomasa Ii, concluding Ieyasu and Naomasa are related.
The one thing about Ieyasu is that he had a knack for surviving situations that other diamyo couldn't survive. Okehazema and Mitakagahara
Just like Liu Bei
I think his death in 1616 as lifespan curse of Yukimura's attempt to kill Ieyasu in Osaka Campiagn during his relentless attacks because he supposed to died in that campaign as last confrontation of Toyotomi and Tokugawa,but he survived.Spirit of Yukimura and Ieyasu's victims who killed in merciless include Mitsunari,Toyotomi loyalist and Western army troops are still haunt him and will confront Ieyasu in vision and kill him when he is ill.He did escape his death fate in Osaka Campaign but his grim fate is still continue as killing by spirit of his victims for avenge their death to ending their suffering at his merciless hand without conscience of alternative to end conflict like sparing enemy life even harmless family members of Toyotomi clan but killing them all.
All of the sake of Peace
Tokugawa, win at sekigahara, beatan up in boshin war by the same descendant of sekigahara's losing side...
Hopefully your next SW character is Mitsunari Ishida.
6:25 I never seen the costume on the right
Tokugawa Ieyasu: At last, I have won! Japan is mine! Mwahahaha!
Mori/Shimazu/Chosokabe: You lousy tanuki! We curse thee! Thy house will fall and our descendants shall rule the land! Believe that!
that key pillar transition from Tokugawa to Patreon LOL
Shogun Ieyasu Tokugawa January 31,1543-June 1,1616 and decedent the last Shogun Yoshinobu Tokugawa October 28, 1837 - November 22, 1913 the Tokugawa family still exists one family member is iehiro Tokugawa born February 7,1965-
a question :if ieyasu was in dynasty warriors which side would he choose ?! shu wu or wei ?
Warriors Orochi 1 shows he sided with Wu.
Little bird, if you don't sing, I'll get another bird
The Best unifier ever 🫡
he is second Liu bei :)
lol no
Fat bastard.
Why
TemplomosLovagok LordNike71 yukimura's fans of course
More like a second Sima Yi.
why did this get reuploaded?
hadoukenfighter apparently a guy sorta debunked some false information from that video. So Drake reupload it to straight things up
It was me who “debunked” those facts. He seriously needs to do a better job on his research, or he might have a guy like me (whom is getting is Masters in History AND has done research in Japan) make him look like a fool
@@mikeviscusi5681 nobody cares
You kinda put the wrong image for Ieyasu's father just go on Nobunaga's ambition sphere of influence for portraits
funny how Our version of Ieyasu is kinda sorta ok while the Sengoku Basara version gets so much shit.
What do you mean the Sengoku Basara gets so much shit?
Anyway i really like both versions tbh.
@@lucaswibisono1316 I agree.
Both are fine in their own ways.
And tbh I do find it scary that many of the fans of Sengoku Basara Ieyasu forget what he was actually like in real life.
shut up bro the leiyasus of sengoku mouso and shabby in comparison, mdr the leiyasu of sgb was much more courageous and charismatic than this shit that temo gave us.
lol I am 100% sure that you saw the sgb films because otherwise you would not tell such nonsense, because in the manga the leiyasu of sgb and became the main character of the work !
do Masamune Date next, please?
Inahime and Tadatsu Honda please!
yukimura plz
I don't know why but spirit of sanada made me dislike Tokugawa. I guess because I was rooting for the sanada
Yeah, I once really hate Ieyasu because of Spirit of Sanada, but when i research it all on the History Books, it made me more sympathetic towards Ieyasu, He just wanted a Nation without War, maybe He is tired to see Japan always killing each other, so He decide to become a Cruel and a Ruthless Leader at the 1600s to keep the Peace. What made me like Him cause He is very patient
@@mariaayusiregar4731 wasn’t he the person who instigated all the chaos around 1600 just because keeping up with other council members could be inconvenient to his clan lol.
@@fyncheniteO Before I can answer, are you referring this Chaos as "Battle of Sekigahara"?
@@mariaayusiregar4731 it’s debatable if battle of Sekigahara ever took place in Sekigahara lol. I meant everything that led to Sekigahara, Mitsunari’s “retirement” which eliminated Mitsunari and pacified three other magistrates, Ieyasu “assassination” incident which eliminated Maeda and Asano, Ukita clan conflict which greatly weakened Ukita, also Sekigahara was originally instigated by Ieyasu’s attempt to conquer Uesugi lol. Sekigahara was just a minor conclusion of a long-winding sequence of events.
@@mariaayusiregar4731 all that wouldn’t have happened if Ieyasu just chose to stay cooperative and maintain the coordination with other elders and magistrates.
I've figured out why I have trouble getting into the SW games... those long ass Japanese names are just so god damn bothersome.
Shingen or Kenshin next?
You're pronouncing his first name wrong