How to Make this Strong Alternative Dovetail Joint

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  • @averagejoe4837
    @averagejoe4837 5 років тому +458

    Half-blind Boxed Tennon joint. Commonly known as the Pask Joint. Beautiful, yet simple joint you came up with. I've never seen anything like it. This is why I love your content.

    • @averagejoe4837
      @averagejoe4837 5 років тому +11

      Wow! Thanks for the likes everyone!

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому +25

      Thanks very much Joe! :)

    • @rontocknell3592
      @rontocknell3592 5 років тому +9

      Yeah, I'd go along with the Pask Joint. Half blind boxed tennon joint sounds correct... but Pask joint is less of a mouthful

    • @evilcanofdrpepper
      @evilcanofdrpepper 5 років тому

      I feel like we need some alliteration like peeking pask joint or post-hole pask joint you know? Anyone got anything better?

    • @markfox6741
      @markfox6741 5 років тому +5

      I'm late to the party, but this is a very 'Art Deco' looking result. There was a French furniture designed called Eugène Printz who made geometric Deco cabinets - I think if this joint had been around, he would have used it, so similar it is to his style. If you're looking for alliteration, you could call it the 'Pask Printz Joint' so it ties in with the Deco style - or simply the 'Pask Deco Joint'.

  • @MikeCarly1019
    @MikeCarly1019 Рік тому +491

    I have done some woodworks in the past but this woodwork plan ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG helps me do much in a far lesser time than i used to do i have already built several projects with this plan and i intend to do many more soon. Thank you so much!

  • @farmerdiy9024
    @farmerdiy9024 5 років тому +459

    Clearly is should be called a Pask Joint!!!!

  • @ShawnBean
    @ShawnBean 5 років тому +54

    Yet another vote for calling it the "Pask Joint"!
    Seriously, unless you can find it in an old book about joinery, I think you invented it and therefore it deserves your name. Great video, Neil!

    • @kayakMike1000
      @kayakMike1000 Рік тому

      I think we should call it the waste of time ugly joint. Or maybe the "requires a special tool" joint. Perhaps retardo joint?

  • @billiondollardan
    @billiondollardan 5 років тому +4

    That's what I love about these videos. You have a problem with the mortising bit and you come up with a quick solution. It's just like any problem you see can be solved with a good bit of thought and elbow grease. Very cool

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому +2

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! :)

  • @boryscholewinski4370
    @boryscholewinski4370 5 років тому +3

    I have been into woodworking videos and into woodworking it self for quite some time now. And your content besides beeing briliant is just so... fresh. Thank you.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      Thanks very much Borys! :)

  • @thomasarussellsr
    @thomasarussellsr 5 років тому +5

    I love this "Encased Finger Joint" or "PASK joint". Loads more glue surface than a typical finger joint. This should be one strong joint when used in strong woods. And, it looks great too! Nicely done.

  • @tomdenny8507
    @tomdenny8507 5 років тому +2

    I think that you are one of the most innovative wood workers on UA-cam today. I hope you continue making videos for a long time.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      Thanks very much Tom! :)

  • @dlwatib
    @dlwatib 5 років тому +11

    That joint is so beautiful it deserves to be made into a the corners of a decorative box..

  • @fossilsfabe4304
    @fossilsfabe4304 5 років тому

    You continue to astonish Neil. Your self-deprecating style and honesty shine through. This should definitely be called a Pask joint.

  • @henryworkswoodandmetal
    @henryworkswoodandmetal 4 роки тому +1

    That’s a ton of work to get it set up but clearly worth it ....... the joint is beautiful! Excellent job!

  • @capnskustomworks
    @capnskustomworks 5 років тому +1

    I at first thought a "Pask Joint", which I see many others have as well, but it then occurred to me that ye might go for inventing more joints in the future. So now I'm thinking maybe a "Pask Box Joint"? It seems kinda like a relative of a box joint, with a very high-end look! I could see that being made use of in some beautiful furniture.

  • @couldhaveseenit
    @couldhaveseenit 4 роки тому +1

    I've had a loose mortising bit for years with no way of using it, this is just what I need. Thank you!

  • @ELPlop
    @ELPlop 5 років тому +4

    What I also appreciate is those stop motions you do! 😁

  • @yam653
    @yam653 5 років тому +3

    Better than teach us how to do nice tools, you Sir, teach us the thought process. Even better than this , you inspire us. Regards from Brazil. Thanks!

  • @mattiasfagerlund
    @mattiasfagerlund 5 років тому +8

    One of your best videos ever - love the project, the stop motion and the end result. I'm so impressed that you keep going from strength to strength!

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      Thanks very much Mattias - glad you enjoyed it! :)

  • @jimmacaulay844
    @jimmacaulay844 5 років тому +2

    I was going to suggest "Squared Knapp Joint", but since it appears to be the first of its kind, the inventor must get credit. Pask Joint it is! I'm going to make some.

  • @frankgarcia9350
    @frankgarcia9350 5 років тому +2

    I am always amazed by your creativity and and ability to problem solve.

  • @jamesbrooks2132
    @jamesbrooks2132 5 років тому +6

    The "Pask Joint" it is! I'll start spreading the word here in Middle Tennessee USA....

  • @SmokeFlame1
    @SmokeFlame1 5 років тому

    There are so many ideas in this video, I'll have to watch is about 8 or 10 times. That chisel-drill on your drill press is marvelous.

  • @MooseLord.
    @MooseLord. 5 років тому +7

    Love it! Thanks for another awesome video. You've become a leading source of inspiration for my work, and I've been humbled by your level of patience and detail.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      Thank you Soren - glad you're enjoying the videos! :)

  • @roseericson3828
    @roseericson3828 4 роки тому

    1/2 blind peg joint, but then I totally agree with 1/2 blind Pask joint. Thanks I learned a lot today!!!

  • @OldeGuido1
    @OldeGuido1 5 років тому +5

    This is what I like about your channel... You're always thinking "outside the box".

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 5 років тому +105

    Welcome to the "Pask Makes Wierd Joinery" channel where every week we upload a crazy new/old dovetail alternative. So grab your tightbond and a chisel and stick around to see what bizarre tools we invent just to make these joints! Next week we'll be trying a "French braid" using nothing but scissors and hairspray.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому +11

      Haha! That's it for new joints, now I need to put them to some use! :)

    • @mikedrop4421
      @mikedrop4421 4 роки тому +1

      @@thealchemist5376 I'll continue speeling itt inncorectley as long as the spelling Police keep responding

    • @mikedrop4421
      @mikedrop4421 4 роки тому

      @@thealchemist5376 and what does that make you then?

    • @mikedrop4421
      @mikedrop4421 4 роки тому

      @@thealchemist5376 no sweat, just having a laugh. Take care mate.

    • @firesurfer
      @firesurfer 4 роки тому

      @@mikedrop4421 Spelling police here. Just install Grammarly as an extension. You will never hear from me again.
      It's free, just unsubscribe from the first email and you will never hear from them either.

  • @peterowens290
    @peterowens290 5 років тому +3

    A great contribution, the "Pask Joint". I think your competence has allowed you to underestimate the time to build the jigs & actually execute the joint.

  • @davidkalil5698
    @davidkalil5698 5 років тому +1

    i've watched this video three times now and it has inspired me to get my workshop set up again. Thank you!

  • @BernardSandler
    @BernardSandler 5 років тому +3

    Presentation skills continues to evolve and I actually sung out Ta Da when you said "fingers crossed it fits together" and it did.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      Thanks very much! :)

  • @jnjarvis1
    @jnjarvis1 5 років тому +1

    Highlight of my week is when Pask posts a video. Another good one

  • @terminalpsychosis8022
    @terminalpsychosis8022 5 років тому

    That is really pretty. Lots of work to set up, but once you have the process refined, seems easy enough.
    Results are really impressive.

  • @KingPostTimberWorks
    @KingPostTimberWorks 5 років тому +36

    Pask joint

  • @MrUltralove
    @MrUltralove 5 років тому +1

    Hell of a contact surface with this one and much more easier than the past joint you "invented". Brilliant work sir!

  • @michaelscherubl819
    @michaelscherubl819 4 роки тому

    it's never too late for a comment...
    "...this one's my first test peace, it's not particullarly good..."
    WHAT IS THIS MANIAC TALKIN' ABOUT???
    A brilliant peace of both work and art!!!

  • @MonicaLN
    @MonicaLN 5 років тому +4

    Absolutely gorgeous joint and I'm so impressed by the jigs you engineered! 😍

  • @tuxrom
    @tuxrom 5 років тому +1

    i love your work, you pop up the woodworking game with your jig for the joinery. hello from France.

  • @ronaldharris6569
    @ronaldharris6569 4 роки тому

    Closed finger joints,they are nice to look at especially with the diy clever tools to make them

  • @timflanigan8586
    @timflanigan8586 5 років тому +1

    Great video as usual! Having been fortunate enough (after many years of pining for one) to find an affordable mortiser on Craigslist, this is now going to be my “go to” method of drawer construction. Thanks for introducing us to the “Pask Joint”!!

  • @thomasklink3766
    @thomasklink3766 5 років тому +1

    Genius, very cool joint and a slick way to set up for it. I'll second the idea to call it a Pask joint.

  • @the_kataclism3722
    @the_kataclism3722 5 років тому +12

    Next would be triangles or even better would Pask Makes Logos!

  • @77barree
    @77barree 2 роки тому

    I was literally just thinking about a joint like this and you problem solved it for me. Nice work.

  • @mikeconroy1543
    @mikeconroy1543 5 років тому

    Neil. I agree with the many other comments. This should be known as the Pask Joint or as someone else coined, the Pask box joint. Fantastic as always. Thank you.

  • @paulbennett7021
    @paulbennett7021 5 років тому +76

    There seems to be a concensus which coincides with my choice; let it be the Pask joint - everyone's going to call it that anyway - it may as well be official

  • @donjackson4703
    @donjackson4703 5 років тому +5

    I have a drill press mortising attachment that takes this type of bit. You were correct to give the inner bit the clearance you did.
    I love this joint and will try it sometime.
    This is your design so it should bear your name.
    Cheers!

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому +2

      Thanks Don, that's good to know. :)

  • @MyGrowthRings
    @MyGrowthRings 5 років тому +17

    I believe it’s a “through tongue and rabbet joint”. I’ll have to dig out my copy of the “Encyclopedia of Furniture Making“, though your approach to mortising is unique.

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 5 років тому +8

      I cut my teeth on Joyce, and I recall nothing there about this. Quite content to christen it Pask Joint! Highly inventive, this fellow; not only that, but he really can make it happen!

  • @johngoins1902
    @johngoins1902 3 роки тому

    Dude I do the same thing to get to a measurement I want. I push it up against the blade while it's not spinning! I've never seen anyone else do that. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one!!

  • @rjtumble
    @rjtumble 5 років тому +1

    Love the joint and the method, thanks. The stop motion at the end was a great touch.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      Thank you - glad you liked that! :)

  • @acerjuglans383
    @acerjuglans383 Рік тому

    That's a brilliant way of using a mortising bit in a drill press.

  • @GRichardWrotten
    @GRichardWrotten 5 років тому +1

    I’d call it a Pask joint. Absolutely lovely!

  • @shrinebox
    @shrinebox 5 років тому +3

    It's called a multiple through-mortise-and-tenon joint (in this case half-blind). It's used a lot in modern Danish cabinetry for the carcases of chests of drawers and bookcases in which the shelves are non-adjustable (where the shelves are joined to the sides of the case by means of the multiple through-mortise-and-tenon joints). It's rare to see this joint in place of a dovetail, possibly because the short-grain from the forward edges of the mortises to the end of the board would likely weaken and crack over time. That is probably also the weakness of the Knapp joint. (It would be interesting to see how Knapp joints in furniture have aged over a long time period.)
    The multiple through-mortise-and-tenon joint is generally found in the middle of the boards that are so mortised. If the boards are thick, the sides of the mortises are banked (dovetailed) and the tenons kerfed on their ends, with wedges driven into the kerfs to dovetail the tenons immovably in the mortises.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому +5

      Thank very much for that. I've seen through tenons in the middle of a board but I've not seen them used in this way (and not half blind). I've searched and searched for an example and I haven't found anything but I'm positive it would exist somewhere.
      From what I've found out about Knapp Joints, they have stood up extremely well and as you probably know they are all over a hundred years old. I don't see the short grain from the forward edges cracking easily. They are well supported by the rest of the joint and would require some serious racking, but I suppose only time will tell. :)

    • @shrinebox
      @shrinebox 5 років тому +4

      @@PaskMakes Thanks. You're probably right that this joint hasn't been used as a dovetail substitute and that you're the first to use it this way. And also you're right again about the support in the Knapp joint (looking again at the Knapp/pin & cove joint, I see that the cove board side is strengthened against racking by support from the pin board side).
      I suppose also that in a hardwood like American sycamore with high splitting resistance there would be no endgrain splitting in the short grain sections of the Pask joint.

    • @The_Original_Brad_Miller
      @The_Original_Brad_Miller 5 років тому

      " half blind multiple through-mortise-and-tenon joint"... it doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as Pask Joint tho does it? ;)
      Hell, he re-invented it, he should get to name it.

  • @ernie5229
    @ernie5229 5 років тому +1

    It's been a while since I've seen your work. You have radically upped your game. Congratulations!!

  • @Yiseia
    @Yiseia 4 роки тому +4

    what to call that joint: bloody perfect!

  • @johnfithian-franks8276
    @johnfithian-franks8276 5 років тому +1

    Hi, I have a mortiser and use it on a lot of my projects, you are right when you say the drill bit needs room to move and not tight to the chisel. There should be between a 1/8 and 3/16th's of an inch space according to my Mortise manual.

  • @hughjasole9336
    @hughjasole9336 5 років тому +1

    Great looking joint. I hope that new Makers Mob doesn't change you or your content. I used to follow most of them other guys until money became their god. I really look forward to the stuff you put on here.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Hugh! Rest assured my channel will be staying the same as long as I keep thinking of new projects. We all have to make a living though so unfortunately money is important. :)

  • @21mph12
    @21mph12 5 років тому +1

    I might call it a rabbeted mortise and tenon. Very cool, thanks!

  • @emm_arr
    @emm_arr 5 років тому

    I was going to say it's like cinema film, but I now think this should be called the Pask joint!

  • @bashkovb5773
    @bashkovb5773 5 років тому +1

    I think i like this even more than the Nut tail joint you made. Great stuff.

  • @amarheafy8484
    @amarheafy8484 5 років тому +3

    a long time I was figuring out how to use that tool without using a special tool. now I also ask again why did not occur to me, lol. Thank sir, you've helped me.. im from Indonesian

  • @TimRoyalPastortim
    @TimRoyalPastortim 5 років тому +2

    Definitely a mortise and tenon joint! Incredibly strong!

  • @yamahantx7005
    @yamahantx7005 4 роки тому

    What a great jig! Beautiful joint!

  • @FranklinArtSite
    @FranklinArtSite 4 роки тому +1

    I admire your practical approaches which mirrors my own take on woodworking. Not being into hero worship, I would call the joint a "square-tail joint".
    Even so, I couldn't possibly take anything away from your creative persistence. Good job and a good education for those who are technically challenged.

  • @seggremalac
    @seggremalac 4 роки тому

    I constantly have the feeling you are a wizard!

  • @davidharvey5672
    @davidharvey5672 5 років тому

    This is such a good looking joint. I must try getting some mortising bits and giving your set up a try. I'm going to make the stop leg so it goes either side of the drill colomb with plenty of slack then put studding in from each side to locate and finely adjust it . Great video thanks

  • @ADVBear
    @ADVBear 5 років тому

    The "Neil Square Joint". Sooo cool!

  • @tombuildsthings
    @tombuildsthings 5 років тому

    Very cool joint! I especially like the simple tool for using the mortising chisel bit.

  • @BeardedBadger77
    @BeardedBadger77 5 років тому +1

    Very impressed! I love the new "Pask Joint"!

  • @wbriggs111
    @wbriggs111 5 років тому

    This is a great joint. It will save me time and frustrations.
    Mistakes are a problem with me so those dovetails can take a hike.
    I have a name for it. MINE

  • @francescomarongiu3422
    @francescomarongiu3422 5 років тому +1

    you're getting over it, very good.

  • @markspc1
    @markspc1 5 років тому +4

    Great work Pask Makes.
    At the end ( 14:47 min) when you compared the two joints I got an idea, maybe you can do another joint; combine the square pegs with the round pegs (the Knapp Joint) so the Knapp Joint lose the scallops.
    So make the Knapp Joint without the scallop, this way you don't need the square chisel bit and the complicated scallops ?
    Hope you have the time to make it ! Thanks.

    • @MonicaLN
      @MonicaLN 5 років тому +2

      markspc1 That would be a gorgeous alternative!

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Mark! That is a known joint and you should be able to find examples with a search. It's easier than the scallops but even though it looks good it isn't as striking as the other two joints. I do still like it though. I was going to include it in my last video but it was getting too long. :)

    • @markspc1
      @markspc1 5 років тому

      Thanks @@PaskMakes. It should be fast to make the scallop-less Knapp Joint; you already have the toll to make the pegs and the template to make the hole :)

    • @markspc1
      @markspc1 5 років тому +1

      @@MonicaLN Thank you Monica, hope Pask have the time to make it.

  • @davomontgomeryda3rd
    @davomontgomeryda3rd 5 років тому +1

    Awesome! Hey another simple idea for making the template... just cut a bunch of 1/4 & 3/8 inch wide strips plywood, mdf, etc. and glue up the strips like a cutting board, 1/4 followed by 3/8, followed by 1/4 and so on, then just leave a 3/8 gap in your 3/8 strips and you’ll create your template with a row of square holes. Another idea is to cut a simple box/ finger joint using a quick box joint jig with 3/8 in cuts, 3/8 inch deep every 1/4 inch.. so the box joint fingers are 1/4 inch... after you cut your box joint, then just glue a 1/4 inch piece of wood across the top of your box/ finger joint and you’ll have an evenly spaced, row of nice square holes to use for your template.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      I thought about gluing strips and that would've been the next step if my method failed. Using finger joints is a good idea too. :)

  • @cashuma5010
    @cashuma5010 5 років тому

    . . . what a superb animation / recapitulation at the end of your video !!!

  • @Maltolyte
    @Maltolyte 4 роки тому

    a table using this joint would look beautiful

  • @EitriBrokkr
    @EitriBrokkr 5 років тому +1

    Its impressive no ones ever come up with this before

  • @BasteLey
    @BasteLey 5 років тому +1

    You are really and truely the best developper on youtube, I think a little bit crazy is essential - greetings from germany - thanks!

  • @alfiversen7023
    @alfiversen7023 5 років тому +1

    Pask Box!
    Congrats on the Makers Mob!

  • @TheLunnyBear
    @TheLunnyBear 5 років тому +2

    This looks really lovely and I think would be great for decoration on a box. You could even leave them proud and add bevels to them to make a kind of point. Might look cool.

    • @TheLunnyBear
      @TheLunnyBear 5 років тому

      I'm sure there's a less stupid way of describing what I mean.

    • @rhabenic
      @rhabenic 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheLunnyBear nah, that's actually a really cool idea! very Greene & Greene

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve 5 років тому +1

    That is quite a nice looking wood joint mate! I agree with the other comments, it should henceforth be known as the "PASK JOINT"!

  • @trevordupp5040
    @trevordupp5040 4 роки тому

    beautiful joint - Can't wait to use the Pask Joint in a future project.

  • @garymucher9590
    @garymucher9590 5 років тому

    Nice once again. Kind of like a box joint but with the end covered over... Thumbs Up!

  • @renierbonthuyzen9703
    @renierbonthuyzen9703 5 років тому +1

    Awesome joint. Well done. Absolutely love your channel.

  • @dstarr3
    @dstarr3 5 років тому +10

    If you really want to fancy them up, you could drive some wedges of a contrasting species into the square fingers.

    • @leehaelters6182
      @leehaelters6182 5 років тому +2

      Let us not guild the lily!

    • @alfredklek
      @alfredklek 5 років тому +1

      @@leehaelters6182 lead wedges then sand them flush just to irk California.

  • @chuckholton4666
    @chuckholton4666 5 років тому +3

    That is freaking awesome! I love watching you figure this stuff out! Great job and fun to watch 👍

  • @lucaraimondo5967
    @lucaraimondo5967 5 років тому

    Great video, like the way you create tools to make your job easier and quicker repeatable

  • @jerryjohnsonii4181
    @jerryjohnsonii4181 5 років тому +1

    Very impressive Dovetail Joint jig Sir !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ianvicedomini2648
    @ianvicedomini2648 4 роки тому

    Excellent joinery Neil. Great video mate

  • @madclouds
    @madclouds 5 років тому +1

    Way cool Neil! Keep up the great work

  • @theliryx
    @theliryx 5 років тому +1

    That cool joint for drawer !!

  • @FireAngelOfLondon
    @FireAngelOfLondon 5 років тому +1

    If I use this I will refer to it as a Pask joint, and I will encourage others to do the same. I might try this soon, apart from the morticing bit and the home made jigs I have everything I need, including some woods with contrasting colours.

  • @jamescampbell7780
    @jamescampbell7780 4 роки тому

    Unusual and pleasing on the eye! Well done.

  • @thewoodshop69
    @thewoodshop69 5 років тому +1

    That is a million dollar idea.

  • @tylersmith9868
    @tylersmith9868 4 роки тому

    Just saw this video and instantly subscribed. You're a genius man!

  • @yoshr14989
    @yoshr14989 5 років тому +2

    Pask joint. Going once. Twice. Pask joint it is.

  • @hsette
    @hsette 5 років тому

    Square Peg Pask Joint. Beautiful !!

  • @butre.
    @butre. 5 років тому +3

    I guess it's a half blind box tenon joint. I think if you dont go full depth with the mortise you might be able to make it full blind for a very clean look

  • @yuli9691
    @yuli9691 4 роки тому

    Fantastic job! Can't wait to see those joints in one of your projects!

  • @jtotheb-ip2hh
    @jtotheb-ip2hh 5 років тому +89

    This is called a Pask Joint.
    No more questions.

  • @frankstofle3785
    @frankstofle3785 5 років тому

    Your are No bull crap woodworker. I just love watching the videos.

  • @z1haze
    @z1haze 5 років тому

    everything you do, you make it look easy.

  • @bryanh6856
    @bryanh6856 5 років тому

    Another amazing build Neil.

  • @krabenaldt7605
    @krabenaldt7605 5 років тому +1

    The benefit over a finger joint is that it can be a blind joist so the there is no interpretation of the drawer face. However, if you wanted a hidden joint maybe one where the front and side are held and secured while holes are drilled and dowels are inserted. Should be quick, strong, hidden, and much simpler to setup and perform.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  5 років тому

      Thanks, but I wasn't trying to make the easiest joint. I was trying to make a strong attractive joint that's repeatable, :)

  • @loxlix123
    @loxlix123 5 років тому

    GENIUS!!! Simple yet exceptionally beautiful.

  • @rossmckenzie1854
    @rossmckenzie1854 5 років тому +1

    Very well done Neil. Now I have no excuse for not trying either of the two square hole drills that I bought on a whim through eBay.