I love many things about your videos: you talk (too many guys act like everyone knows what they're doing and why), you're funny without being contrived, you're honest, you admit that you can and do make mistakes, and your videos are not tool shows where you try to show us all your cool tools and convince us that we need just one more tshotshke. Thanks!
I also love that she didn't sand the joints before showing us at the end. Most of the YT wood channel presenters would sanded, filled with sawdust and glue, and sanded again. Tamar gave us an honest look at how the joints really look without cleaning them up.
As a cabinet builder we use most of the technics you showed mostly on doors but we have an edge bander machine that uses hot melt glue veneer banding that will do hundreds of doors very quickly, very strong because you literally have to use the machine to remove the edge band . Nice demo 👌
I personally do NOT like edge banding. especially for furniture that has to deal with water or any other liquids. tables, underside of doors, countertops. often I get called in to replace the existing (or non) edge band as it has come away from the table top or door.
i'm a cabinet builder and using an edge banding machine is efficient for a production standpoint but not the most durable. It's still sufficient for most cabinets.
This is what I like no loud music playing in the background all your video you take your time and explains I believe even a little child could understand, is the reason why I stuck with your Chanel 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯
This is quickly becoming my favorite DIY/woodworking channel. I was actually looking for a way to not empty my wallet on high-end hardwoods for a project, and still make it look like a classy cabinet. You inspired me to experiment with this!
You are inspiring on so many levels. I love how you open a dialog with us as viewers and take us with you. I always feels so involved and I learn more from your teaching style than anyone else on UA-cam. You are amazing
@@3x3CustomTamar Great Video! The presentation was well orchestrated with good pace, but not so fast that the audience misses out on key facts. This video is going into my permanent library. Thanks, Patrick
You always seem to find such interesting alternate ways of doing things and that adds so much to the quality of your videos. Thank you so much for all the effort it takes to create these. I know that there is a BUNCH of work done off camera to make them so professional. I also like the way you integrated the Audible commercial seamlessly. It is SO much better than the jarring way others get thrust at you...so in your face and jarring to the flow of the video. Love your work. Thank you.
Wd 40 is nowhere near my shop....it's a nightmare if you get it on the saw because it gets all over everything and your finish will still fish eye and separate even if it's been several days since it was used and you can't even see it
I know a lot of people don’t know this… You can spray WD-40 on tar, And it will remove it from clothing. W 40 has many uses, the least of all is lubricating
This was a fantastic tutorial . I love the last V-groove with the miter joint . strong and clean . Thank you so much Tamar for these videos . Wood working for the whole family is great .
This popped up on my UA-cam recommended. So happy I clicked, I do a little edge banding on plywood, I use glued timber edging mainly for basic workshop units to withstand wear and tear, but nice to see other options for nice stuff. Thanks from the UK
Your channel and a couple other channels have are a saving grace. I have barely any room to do wood working so I'm constrained to a hand router, a miter saw and a portable table saw. I didn't know with a little innovation you can do so much with just a table saw! Now I'm using it as a planer, cutting small logs, joinery... Thank you.
Complement: YOU explained very well all details needed to reproduce your project. Even pausing to instruct what you were ABOUT to do AND WHY. That is HOW to produce a Quality UA-cam video. Please take this to Heart and continue. You are making a difference.
Great video Tamar, my personal preference is the combination "tongue and groove" and " V groove"... it makes the edge look natural, and is very strong. Can't wait to try it out on a project I'm doing.
Super informative, thank you for this video. While watching, it occurred to me that you could also leave some extra material with most of these edges and then use a router bit to leave a nice rounded specialty edge. Thanks again Tamar! 😊
This is the first video by Tamar I have seen. Definitely won't be the last. She just might just be the best youtube creator I have seen yet. Well thought out explanations with great detail and the great editing left zero wasted time. Even the sponsorship wasn't just a few boring minutes but her project was incorporated. I'm geeking out right now 🤩
Can I just say I love seeing a lady doing this? women perspective and approach is definitely different than men and I love to see this diversity, and I simply learn better, please keep up the good work
Richard Hatt story of my life. Wife: thought you were staining that? Me: I though paint would look better....(talks to self) thank God for wood filler🤣
Nice, narration and I like that you don't play music in the background (not afraid of silence) I like hearing the sounds made in the creation process in the shop. Good quality video. I like that you gave enough explanation for the people who may not know much in wood working but not so much that a more experienced audience would not get bored (I think you found the right balance).
Hi Tamar ! Thanks for the video ! One easy technique I would encourage you to try if you haven't yet, it to cut a 45° strip all alont the edge of the plywood, taking care that the exterior of the blade contacts the edge of the board whose edge you want to hide, and just take the small strip (which should be a triangle with two sides' length = thickness of the board and 1 side 45° cut) and just rotate it 180° and glue it back. Then the facinf of the ply is facing out and the edge it facing down. It's a really cool look !
That was a very helpful and comprehensive video covering all methods of edge banding. This retired cabinet/furniture maker was always skeptical using iron on veneers and only started using that type of veneer when melamine was required for a project. Forty years later I was pleasantly surprised that those iron on veneers are still holding up. I later started using iron on veneers for plywood and never had a failure but only use them for shelf edges and never for exposed outside edges on doors or cabinet boxes with inset doors.
I used the spline method last year on a wrap around desk for my wife - worked great and is really strong. I think the edge banding bit set has the best outcome, but until I do more edge banding, the price is not quite right. Love your videos and even your product plugs are pleasant (certainly MUCH better than other videos with ads breaking in). You got a subscribe because of that, haha.
The router ones (including the v grove one) are my favorites cause I would rather use the router, and it being flush is rather neat. Then again, the most fashion way to make it flush is to not make if flush, but make it look like decorative detailing. Say a dark frame around a light top or vice versa (needs not be straight, or contained to the border). Filling, smooth sanding and painting the edges, and only the edges, might be an option for adding a dash of color while hiding the edges too. At any pace, as long as it looks like its an intentional design element, that is how people will look at it.
If you are slightly oversized you can sand it down after. I just prefer to use strips of about quarter inch to one inch for edging. If you are using it for a modern style hinge on a modern cabinet small strips are strong enough when glued on. You can even use a thicker strip with profiled edges if you want. V groves would be strong but probably overkill to be honest but then again it all depends on what you want it for. If you want the edge to structural then V groove or tongue and groove is he way to go.
@@bighands69 With V grooves the thing I like the most is time of production. With the right(ish) gear and set up, you can do it all pretty fast, nice and easy.
Another benefit to your video library. I'm making some folding tables with some off cuts I got from the community wood shop to include some high end plywood. Now I have a few methods to cover the exposed edges. These videos are timeless. Thanks again.
Great video, always learn something new, and this time it was stripping the veneer layer off the plywood for banding. A couple of other methods I've used in the past: 1. Biscuits - Quick and easy (just uses a hand-held tool), but not super strong. Kind of in between the glue-only and spline examples you showed. 2. 45 degree miter lock router bit - while normally used for miters, I use it when you don't want a seam on the top surface. Nice because it's a single bit that does both pieces (very cool the first time you see it). Use a sacrificial piece to prevent tear-out.
I subscribe to a lot of DIY and woodworker sites just for entertainment and some ideas (I am NOT a woodworker, metalworker or any other type of handy-artist). Just gotta say, you are the most natural screen presence, best information/idea source and professional out there. Ok, maybe tied with one or two. But you do a great job of educating, demonstrating and encouraging folks like me. Thanks! Keep doing good stuff!
Tamar, you've got it going on. I'm not a woodworker but every once in a while I get a bug to do a small project. This is one topic I was really interested in and I believe you've given me just the idea I need. Thanks.
Great video thanks! In the end I decided not to use any of these methods (just went with a varnish coating for a plywood-based bike lockup) but I'm sure I'll make use of some of them in the future. That last combo bit set method was particularly interesting.
I have never been good at woodworking but I am a DIY kind of guy and so thus over the years have had to do wood work here and there and along the way I have taught myself a lot (and wasted a lot of money in the process). Now a days with UA-cam being an endless platform for How-To's and short lessons like this one I have gained much more confidence with wood work. My girlfriend and I recently purchased a home (well she purchased and I am helping with other misc) I have built a large off the ground dog bed, floating shelves, a blanket ladder, a double trash can cabinet, work benches for the garage, soon a covered deck and I need to replace a door our dog demolished. I picked up a router to do an ogee and radius edge on the dog bed and shelves and now I just want to use the router on everything, haha. Where I used to dread wood work back in the day I actually am starting to enjoy it. It's like going down the rabbit hole, so many possibilities and things you can create. Anyway's I am rambling but the moral is - Thanks for making cool videos like these for us noobs to enjoy! I like your style :)
While taking a brief moment away from my graduate studies, I needed to visit 2 of my favorite sites. Naturally, you’re one of them. Writing purely as a layman, I must say, “You are an Educator!” I am learning much! Thank you! Semper Fi
@@3x3CustomTamar Would love to hear more about your general router table setup, including which router and lift you are using. I've see the table/fence linked to on your website, but could not find other details.
@@vschwenoha agreed... had my volume all the way up to hear her voice and when the beeps hit it blew my ears out. Great video but please check volume levels in post-production.
I tend to agree, Tony. If you can't bury the plywood edges in your project, go with solid wood. The price differential is not worth the extra work involved!
Thanks - I am getting back into woodworking after about 30+ years and I saved this video as something I'll refer back to in the future. Subscribed...mainly because you're OCD detail oriented as I am.
A quick FYI....not sure if this was mentioned in the comments so I'll add it here...although not usually an issue with short pieces of plywood, longer pieces may have a slight "bow" in them....when running the piece past the router bit it's important to keep the piece flat against the table to ensure your groove/tongue stays consistently in the centre of your piece....for this, a vertically placed feather board on your router fence is just the ticket....run your plywood/other with the bow "up".....the feather board will press down against the piece keeping it flat on the table for that consistent center cut.....PS...you videos are great with no nonsense...I like that!!
Great video running through the options. I showed my wife so we could talk about the finish we wanted on a project I'm working on. her comment was "wow, she must get so much sawdust caught in that curly hair" So I have to ask, do you tuck it all under the beanie when cutting in the shop? I get sawdust and wood shavings in my beard all the time.
My favourite, just veneer the main surfaces of the plywood after adding the edging then trim down for a seamless finish. For extra smarts do the ends with end grain edging, then it looks like a solid board unless closely inspected. Most people need it specially pointing out its not solid wood, and then explaining how you can tell...
My second comment: Since that bit set lined up the edges so well, I wonder if it could also be used for edge jointing to align small table top panels, etc. for clue up. Just a thought.
Your're totally right sir. Sometimes the choice of the method (or the choice of the right router bit set) depends on other aspects. Using this bit set for your purpose whoul surely produce a stronger (and more durable) joint than biscuits, but be aware that it will need some additional care in calculating the exact final width of the boards. By the way, it is an awesome method!
If you use a good high-quality, high-ply plywood, the sanded and finished exposed edge looks good and doesn't need to be covered at all. It's a bit nostalgic for me as school furniture back in the 60's was made this way. I have done this for my kitchen cabinet shelves and my wife and I both love the look.
It’s nice to have multiple ways to do edgebanding. Depending on how the part is used/viewed would determine the method. ie s shelf vs the edge of a cabinet or the top of a drawer vs the edge of a dining table....
Interesting stuff. But just as I can't walk and talk without dragging my knuckles. I can't listen to music when I'm concentrating on cuts. I wear ear defenders to reduce noise but still like to hear what's going on with the tool.
I don't have a router table. But I think the v cut method with the table saw is my best choice given all the methods you demo. I tried it. Used wood glue and clamps. Worked great with 3/4" plywood and pine board. Thanks for the idea!
Some cleaners will damage the carbide, I heard. A lot of people use Simple Green, oven cleaner, and a few other things. Also, I heard laundry detergent works well.
Marty Fried both laundry detergent and oven cleaners contains lot of different chemicals as well as enzymes. I would not recommend these products as you never know exactly what is in them. Drain cleaner is (at least in Denmark) pure Sodium Hydroxide, NaOH, dissolved in water. You can buy this as crystals and make your own solution. NaOH will not do any harm to the carbides...
Just when I was wondering how to put an edge on my plywood. You turned up with this video. Thank you. PS What sort of plywood did you use in this video because I want to buy some where I live.
excellent video. learned something very useful. What was really seamless was the way you incorporated pitching the products without loosing a beat. Excellent job.
This is the first video of yours I've seen. I'm working on a walnut media console and couldn't figure out how best to conceal the edges. The tongue and groove with angles is going to be perfect. I really like that you showed multiple solutions so I could determine compare and settle on what's best for my current project. The way you explain the pros and cons as you go and your general approach to woodworking makes learning more comfortable. I'll be checking out your other videos for advice as I navigate the pass from novice to intermediate. Thanks and cheers!
i agree with your edge band challenge, however its never a good idea to share attention when using power tools or driving for that matter. each require undivided attention, Its not fun having your digits reattached... trust me i know.
@@dennisschickling5759 no, no it doesn't. I don't know why you think that. It only has one advantage which is more glueable surface which is a stronger bond.
@@leonardhall7203 if you have the flat board at 8 inches the one side cut at a 45° the other board at 3 inches also cut at a 45° and glue up the 2 45° together. The side profile will LOOK Like the board is 3 inches thick.
@@3x3CustomTamar I just watched a maker apologize for not having a "sliding" miter saw and that he would have to make due with his regular one SMH. I was like, Really? You need to watch some episodes of Woodwrights dude! I like that you have invested more in your Incra miter setup than your tablesaw. Shows where your passion is. I also have a jobsite table saw and do a lot of great work on it.
I've used iron-on edge banding for years!! I use a heat gun & a pair of leather gloves so I don't burn my fingers!! I loved the tip about WD-40 on router bits. I do a lot of routing & it is definitely one of the biggest problems!!
While I appreciate the need for advertisers, nothing scares me more than something that distracts me from the work. You need 100% of your attention to the spinning blades.
I don't actually see the need for advertisers or sponsors. If your content is good your videos get plenty of views and you get revenue. Many woodworking channels are beginning to do away with them because the sponsors have generally started demanding how the ads are worded and where in the video they're placed and how much of the video's time they take up. That douche that pushes the Saw Stop relentlessly and the one that pushes the Powermatics being exceptions. Sponsors ruin videos and my interest in a channel. As I understand the revenue stream the sponsors are also a fairly short term and temporary revenue stream that drops off after a year or two as the sponsors switch to newer channels.
Got a wild hare up to look at manufacturing gaming tables (Ideally to sell as a side project/hustle/whatever), and this is 100% my plan to make customizable edges for the dining table top/vault cover. I can make them flush for people who like the square/modern edge look, or with a little more material, add some fancy edge profiles for folks feeling more traditional.
Custom quilting island needed a top. Used 3/4” Baltic Birch. I used some figured sugar maple I’d harvested from the property a few years back. Your clever idea for the router groove on both parts and using a 1/4” spline was perfect! Special thanks from a fellow homeschooler.
I dont like edge banding,i use plywood as it is or all solid wood I think a lot of time is wasted,so the client get an inferior result at almost the same price! I might loose a bit of money but the client is happy for a long time!
Agreed! I never listen to books while running machines in my shop, and I rarely listen to music then too. I just think it's too easy to get distracted and lose a finger (and I have a SawStop!).
Thanx Tamar. A humble tip: to help old, tired eyes, may I suggest you use dark hardwood for the edge in your demonstrations? The contrast in wood colors makes for a better visual aid.
I can't think of anyone who loves to have their videos interrupted for bill paying (sponsor hawking), but I love how you did yours. By continuing the work while telling people about something relevant to the task was rather smooth. I didn't feel the need to skip forward in the video at all. So win/win and I guess win for us all.
I've watched this video so many times, my wife thinks I have a crush. I am planning on building my own cabinets when we remodel our kitchen. Definitely using one of these methods for the front edges. Planning on Euro Cabinets. Side note: I'm also going to cast my own pulls out of brass, Reishii mushrooms.
Thanks for the great video Tamar! I'm a newby and started working with plywood boards for a cabinetry project so your video on edging options is just what I needed.
Well done with the w 40 oil to avoid the router-bits burns out...it is something new, I do not knew yet,until now that I wacthed your video, on how to do different ways to adjoin e wood-edges...also I saw another of your videos,where you made beauriful boxes with trigle-patterns. Ofcourse, here in mexico,I do not have lots,and lots of machinery and lots,lots of clamps!!! Like you in your shop; like it make me feel that Iam a carpinter but from the stone-edge! That I got to build a router table out of solid wood,rather than play wood,because here in mexico it is too expensive,which it would it be much easer and better router table and also the saw-table,I made it too!!! But it does the job,,since I just began working with wood !! Well, thank you for your expertise shared!! Iam one of yours admirer! Greetings from mexico,beautiful girl!
I love many things about your videos: you talk (too many guys act like everyone knows what they're doing and why), you're funny without being contrived, you're honest, you admit that you can and do make mistakes, and your videos are not tool shows where you try to show us all your cool tools and convince us that we need just one more tshotshke. Thanks!
Haha glad you like it! Thanks!
"tshotshke" - thanks for teaching me a new word!
The delivery of this video was as seamless as those edges. Damn, even the sponsor mentions blended right in. Amazing work Tamar!
Ha glad you liked it!
She's a natural! 👍 Great information!
For real though, that was extremely professional.
What I love about this channel is your willingness to let us explore with you. Not just be lectured at.
So glad you like it!
thank goodness i read your comment again 😂✌️
I also love that she didn't sand the joints before showing us at the end. Most of the YT wood channel presenters would sanded, filled with sawdust and glue, and sanded again. Tamar gave us an honest look at how the joints really look without cleaning them up.
Well put.
All you need is $30k of equipment to apply the same quality as this beautiful lady does! :-)
As a cabinet builder we use most of the technics you showed mostly on doors but we have an edge bander machine that uses hot melt glue veneer banding that will do hundreds of doors very quickly, very strong because you literally have to use the machine to remove the edge band .
Nice demo 👌
I believe this video and content is aimed at the home shop.
@@Joesmith-fu4ps I apply edgeband with a clothes iron, it's easy!
I personally do NOT like edge banding. especially for furniture that has to deal with water or any other liquids. tables, underside of doors, countertops. often I get called in to replace the existing (or non) edge band as it has come away from the table top or door.
i'm a cabinet builder and using an edge banding machine is efficient for a production standpoint but not the most durable. It's still sufficient for most cabinets.
This is what I like no loud music playing in the background all your video you take your time and explains I believe even a little child could understand, is the reason why I stuck with your Chanel 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯
This is quickly becoming my favorite DIY/woodworking channel. I was actually looking for a way to not empty my wallet on high-end hardwoods for a project, and still make it look like a classy cabinet. You inspired me to experiment with this!
Awesome! So glad it was helpful!
You are inspiring on so many levels. I love how you open a dialog with us as viewers and take us with you. I always feels so involved and I learn more from your teaching style than anyone else on UA-cam. You are amazing
That’s so awesome to hear! Thanks!
@@3x3CustomTamar Great Video! The presentation was well orchestrated with good pace, but not so fast that the audience misses out on key facts. This video is going into my permanent library. Thanks, Patrick
Patrick Heinig awesome to hear! Thanks!
You always seem to find such interesting alternate ways of doing things and that adds so much to the quality of your videos. Thank you so much for all the effort it takes to create these. I know that there is a BUNCH of work done off camera to make them so professional. I also like the way you integrated the Audible commercial seamlessly. It is SO much better than the jarring way others get thrust at you...so in your face and jarring to the flow of the video. Love your work. Thank you.
I really appreciate the feedback! Thanks!
Those bits would make great joints for cabinet door paneling. Great find.
idk if it really is, but it seems like such a huge flex to be able to say that WD-40 sponsors this channel hahah
Haha 🤘
Wd 40 is nowhere near my shop....it's a nightmare if you get it on the saw because it gets all over everything and your finish will still fish eye and separate even if it's been several days since it was used and you can't even see it
Yeah that's legit. I can't imagine whoever is behind WD-40 knowing who I am... Or giving me money
Its a big flex : )
I know a lot of people don’t know this… You can spray WD-40 on tar, And it will remove it from clothing. W 40 has many uses, the least of all is lubricating
Wow! This is the kind of content I didn't know I wanted until I saw it. UA-cam recommendations are not always useless.
Ha. So glad you liked it
Until you "saw" it 😁
@@IngeBall 🤣
This was a fantastic tutorial . I love the last V-groove with the miter joint . strong and clean . Thank you so much Tamar for these videos . Wood working for the whole family is great .
So glad you liked it. Thanks!
This popped up on my UA-cam recommended. So happy I clicked, I do a little edge banding on plywood, I use glued timber edging mainly for basic workshop units to withstand wear and tear, but nice to see other options for nice stuff. Thanks from the UK
Glad you liked it!
Your channel and a couple other channels have are a saving grace. I have barely any room to do wood working so I'm constrained to a hand router, a miter saw and a portable table saw. I didn't know with a little innovation you can do so much with just a table saw! Now I'm using it as a planer, cutting small logs, joinery...
Thank you.
Awesome to hear!
Complement: YOU explained very well all details needed to reproduce your project. Even pausing to instruct what you were ABOUT to do AND WHY. That is HOW to produce a Quality UA-cam video. Please take this to Heart and continue. You are making a difference.
So glad you liked it. Thanks!
I use a lot of plywood and your tips will take my projects to the next level. That router bit set is brilliant! Thank you 👍😎🇦🇺
Awesome. So glad it was helpful
Great video Tamar, my personal preference is the combination "tongue and groove" and " V groove"... it makes the edge look natural, and is very strong. Can't wait to try it out on a project I'm doing.
Super informative, thank you for this video. While watching, it occurred to me that you could also leave some extra material with most of these edges and then use a router bit to leave a nice rounded specialty edge. Thanks again Tamar! 😊
For sure! Thanks!
This is the first video by Tamar I have seen. Definitely won't be the last. She just might just be the best youtube creator I have seen yet. Well thought out explanations with great detail and the great editing left zero wasted time. Even the sponsorship wasn't just a few boring minutes but her project was incorporated. I'm geeking out right now 🤩
Haha glad you like it!
So great to see a knowledgeable and confident women doing wood working videos. Thanks for the ideas
Glad you like them
Great video. While not as strong, that cutting the veneer off the plywood was a cool solution. I've never seen that one before.
Thanks! I thought it would be pretty useful in some situations!
If one side of the plywood will be hiden, you could also do a triangle strip of plywood material. Similar to a self return on moulding.
@@BenMarvin Yeah, was thinking the same thing. If it's on a lower shelf that can't be seen. The grain will sort of match too.
Can I just say I love seeing a lady doing this? women perspective and approach is definitely different than men and I love to see this diversity, and I simply learn better, please keep up the good work
"I should probably do a test cut first...but I won't..." Story of my life! I'm always like, "I'm sure it'll be fine!" :D Great video!
Hahaha! It doesn’t always work out that well
What if you make a mistake? Wood doesn't grow on trees you know! 😂🤣😅
I cut my piece 8 times and it's still too short.
Richard Hatt story of my life. Wife: thought you were staining that? Me: I though paint would look better....(talks to self) thank God for wood filler🤣
Nice, narration and I like that you don't play music in the background (not afraid of silence) I like hearing the sounds made in the creation process in the shop. Good quality video. I like that you gave enough explanation for the people who may not know much in wood working but not so much that a more experienced audience would not get bored (I think you found the right balance).
That’s so awesome to hear! Thanks so much for the feedback!
Tamar it's so nice to see the face of a woman doing wood working, and doing it good. I enjoyed your video and watching your skills at work.
Glad to hear. Thanks!
Hi Tamar ! Thanks for the video ! One easy technique I would encourage you to try if you haven't yet, it to cut a 45° strip all alont the edge of the plywood, taking care that the exterior of the blade contacts the edge of the board whose edge you want to hide, and just take the small strip (which should be a triangle with two sides' length = thickness of the board and 1 side 45° cut) and just rotate it 180° and glue it back.
Then the facinf of the ply is facing out and the edge it facing down. It's a really cool look !
I would love to see a video of this, is there a name for this technique that I could search for?
Once an elder wise man told me that carpentry can be considered one of art lines, you have done a grate job there, and very talented .
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This is my new favorite youtube channel! Great work both in the shop and with the camera.
So awesome to hear. Thanks!
Brilliant. I am learning about plywood edging and watched a bunch of videos. Your ideas are way better than any others I've seen.
That was a very helpful and comprehensive video covering all methods of edge banding. This retired cabinet/furniture maker was always skeptical using iron on veneers and only started using that type of veneer when melamine was required for a project. Forty years later I was pleasantly surprised that those iron on veneers are still holding up. I later started using iron on veneers for plywood and never had a failure but only use them for shelf edges and never for exposed outside edges on doors or cabinet boxes with inset doors.
Glad you liked it. Yeah. It definitely depends on the allocation. I was testing this out for doors that would see a bit of abuse.
I used the spline method last year on a wrap around desk for my wife - worked great and is really strong. I think the edge banding bit set has the best outcome, but until I do more edge banding, the price is not quite right. Love your videos and even your product plugs are pleasant (certainly MUCH better than other videos with ads breaking in). You got a subscribe because of that, haha.
Awesome to hear
When you have 15 layers or more it's cool to just put a half inch radius and finish it that way with all the layers exposed.
The router ones (including the v grove one) are my favorites cause I would rather use the router, and it being flush is rather neat.
Then again, the most fashion way to make it flush is to not make if flush, but make it look like decorative detailing. Say a dark frame around a light top or vice versa (needs not be straight, or contained to the border). Filling, smooth sanding and painting the edges, and only the edges, might be an option for adding a dash of color while hiding the edges too. At any pace, as long as it looks like its an intentional design element, that is how people will look at it.
Yup! Tons of different options for different looks!
If you are slightly oversized you can sand it down after. I just prefer to use strips of about quarter inch to one inch for edging.
If you are using it for a modern style hinge on a modern cabinet small strips are strong enough when glued on. You can even use a thicker strip with profiled edges if you want.
V groves would be strong but probably overkill to be honest but then again it all depends on what you want it for. If you want the edge to structural then V groove or tongue and groove is he way to go.
@@bighands69 With V grooves the thing I like the most is time of production. With the right(ish) gear and set up, you can do it all pretty fast, nice and easy.
Another benefit to your video library. I'm making some folding tables with some off cuts I got from the community wood shop to include some high end plywood. Now I have a few methods to cover the exposed edges. These videos are timeless. Thanks again.
WD-40 sponsoring your video has got to be the biggest stamp of approval I have seen.
Well done - you deserve it!
Awesome
Liked how you did the Audible pitch while showing the glue ups
Glad you liked it
Thank you. I always love (good!) options. Appreciate seeing so many in 1 video 💥✌
Glad you liked it! It was a fun experiment
Great video, always learn something new, and this time it was stripping the veneer layer off the plywood for banding.
A couple of other methods I've used in the past:
1. Biscuits - Quick and easy (just uses a hand-held tool), but not super strong. Kind of in between the glue-only and spline examples you showed.
2. 45 degree miter lock router bit - while normally used for miters, I use it when you don't want a seam on the top surface. Nice because it's a single bit that does both pieces (very cool the first time you see it). Use a sacrificial piece to prevent tear-out.
Thanks! Yeah. That’s a cool trick. I like the miter lock idea!
I subscribe to a lot of DIY and woodworker sites just for entertainment and some ideas (I am NOT a woodworker, metalworker or any other type of handy-artist). Just gotta say, you are the most natural screen presence, best information/idea source and professional out there. Ok, maybe tied with one or two. But you do a great job of educating, demonstrating and encouraging folks like me.
Thanks! Keep doing good stuff!
That’s so awesome to hear! Thanks so much!
Tamar, you've got it going on. I'm not a woodworker but every once in a while I get a bug to do a small project.
This is one topic I was really interested in and I believe you've given me just the idea I need. Thanks.
Awesome
Thanks, that was very inspiring. I love to think of different solutions to a problem.
Thanks! It’s always fun to experiment!
Great video with a lot information. I've never known there are so many ways to do edge banding. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you liked it! With woodworking there’s always more than one way. Ha
Great video thanks! In the end I decided not to use any of these methods (just went with a varnish coating for a plywood-based bike lockup) but I'm sure I'll make use of some of them in the future. That last combo bit set method was particularly interesting.
I have never been good at woodworking but I am a DIY kind of guy and so thus over the years have had to do wood work here and there and along the way I have taught myself a lot (and wasted a lot of money in the process). Now a days with UA-cam being an endless platform for How-To's and short lessons like this one I have gained much more confidence with wood work. My girlfriend and I recently purchased a home (well she purchased and I am helping with other misc) I have built a large off the ground dog bed, floating shelves, a blanket ladder, a double trash can cabinet, work benches for the garage, soon a covered deck and I need to replace a door our dog demolished. I picked up a router to do an ogee and radius edge on the dog bed and shelves and now I just want to use the router on everything, haha. Where I used to dread wood work back in the day I actually am starting to enjoy it. It's like going down the rabbit hole, so many possibilities and things you can create.
Anyway's I am rambling but the moral is - Thanks for making cool videos like these for us noobs to enjoy! I like your style :)
So glad you’re finding the videos helpful!
While taking a brief moment away from my graduate studies, I needed to visit 2 of my favorite sites. Naturally, you’re one of them. Writing purely as a layman, I must say, “You are an Educator!” I am learning much! Thank you! Semper Fi
Awesome to hear! Thanks!
2:20 🤓 this is the first time I saw an electric router lift and it's amazing!
Ha. Yup! It’s awesome
Electric router lift --wow-- hopefully it speeds up set up --hate spending so much time in setup
Yeah! I need that thing in my life.
@@3x3CustomTamar Would love to hear more about your general router table setup, including which router and lift you are using. I've see the table/fence linked to on your website, but could not find other details.
Chris Malone it’s from mlcs woodworking
The "Oh Shit" moment at the end earned my like haha and the useful joinery tips too I guess
Haha! Glad you liked it.
That part killed my ears. The beeps were so much louder than the voice work 😵🙉
@@vschwenoha agreed... had my volume all the way up to hear her voice and when the beeps hit it blew my ears out. Great video but please check volume levels in post-production.
I honestly detest spending time edge banding so I normally adjust my design to avoid the need for them but nice video :)
Ha! Thanks
I tend to agree, Tony.
If you can't bury the plywood edges in your project, go with solid wood. The price differential is not worth the extra work involved!
Thanks - I am getting back into woodworking after about 30+ years and I saved this video as something I'll refer back to in the future. Subscribed...mainly because you're OCD detail oriented as I am.
Hahah!
I HATE In video ads! But I LOVE that you keep working and showing during the ad. Thanks,
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I enjoy your content but,
I'm really here for the outtros
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Good demonstration, Thanx
Hahaha! Such a scary moment. Thanks!
Not sure why the Almighty algorithm showed me this channel, but I enjoyed it and subscribed.
You could do the v groove with plywood to get strength and a perfect match
A quick FYI....not sure if this was mentioned in the comments so I'll add it here...although not usually an issue with short pieces of plywood, longer pieces may have a slight "bow" in them....when running the piece past the router bit it's important to keep the piece flat against the table to ensure your groove/tongue stays consistently in the centre of your piece....for this, a vertically placed feather board on your router fence is just the ticket....run your plywood/other with the bow "up".....the feather board will press down against the piece keeping it flat on the table for that consistent center cut.....PS...you videos are great with no nonsense...I like that!!
Thanks! Yup! Feather boards are always handy at the router table
I really like how you integrated your sponsor in a way that fit right into the rest of the video and included a tip. Kudos!
Awesome. Glad you liked it
Great video running through the options.
I showed my wife so we could talk about the finish we wanted on a project I'm working on. her comment was "wow, she must get so much sawdust caught in that curly hair"
So I have to ask, do you tuck it all under the beanie when cutting in the shop?
I get sawdust and wood shavings in my beard all the time.
Hahaha! Yeah. I wear my bear up in a bun when I’m actually using my tools. 😂
My favourite, just veneer the main surfaces of the plywood after adding the edging then trim down for a seamless finish. For extra smarts do the ends with end grain edging, then it looks like a solid board unless closely inspected. Most people need it specially pointing out its not solid wood, and then explaining how you can tell...
I have never seen end grain veneer. I have made my own when appropriate to a job. I will be looking for that stuff.
My second comment: Since that bit set lined up the edges so well, I wonder if it could also be used for edge jointing to align small table top panels, etc. for clue up. Just a thought.
It would be a lot like having biscuits all along the edge, wouldn't it?
Yeah totally!
Your're totally right sir.
Sometimes the choice of the method (or the choice of the right router bit set) depends on other aspects.
Using this bit set for your purpose whoul surely produce a stronger (and more durable) joint than biscuits, but be aware that it will need some additional care in calculating the exact final width of the boards.
By the way, it is an awesome method!
Mark Bryan, I love this idea. I have a project on my list to do a kitchen table top mission style and I am going to use your idea.
@@dennisbennett7274 What's the mission style?
Hi Tamar i'm from Brasil. This is the best video about edge banding I've watched so far
So glad you think so!
If you use a good high-quality, high-ply plywood, the sanded and finished exposed edge looks good and doesn't need to be covered at all. It's a bit nostalgic for me as school furniture back in the 60's was made this way. I have done this for my kitchen cabinet shelves and my wife and I both love the look.
It’s a look for sure. That doesn’t go with all styles
It’s nice to have multiple ways to do edgebanding. Depending on how the part is used/viewed would determine the method. ie s shelf vs the edge of a cabinet or the top of a drawer vs the edge of a dining table....
You use plywood for a dining table? Cabinets and shelving sure, but a dining table?
I would like to know more about your router, router table, and lift.
It’s from MLCS woodworking
@@3x3CustomTamar looks like a great setup
@@3x3CustomTamar Thanks for the info! I'll check them out.
@@3x3CustomTamar could you make a video making shaker style cabinet doors with your router...something novice individuals. PLEASE
Richard Benson it is!
Interesting stuff. But just as I can't walk and talk without dragging my knuckles. I can't listen to music when I'm concentrating on cuts. I wear ear defenders to reduce noise but still like to hear what's going on with the tool.
You should be a high school shop teacher. You are a gifted teacher and explain things very well!
Ha. Thanks!
I love your videos! Thank you for posting them.
I don't have a router table. But I think the v cut method with the table saw is my best choice given all the methods you demo. I tried it. Used wood glue and clamps. Worked great with 3/4" plywood and pine board. Thanks for the idea!
resin is easily removed from the bits - just soak them in drain cleaner for 5 minutes and you can easily wipe off the resin
if she did that , then she wouldn't have the support of WD-40 product.
Some cleaners will damage the carbide, I heard. A lot of people use Simple Green, oven cleaner, and a few other things. Also, I heard laundry detergent works well.
Marty Fried both laundry detergent and oven cleaners contains lot of different chemicals as well as enzymes. I would not recommend these products as you never know exactly what is in them. Drain cleaner is (at least in Denmark) pure Sodium Hydroxide, NaOH, dissolved in water. You can buy this as crystals and make your own solution. NaOH will not do any harm to the carbides...
Just when I was wondering how to put an edge on my plywood. You turned up with this video. Thank you. PS What sort of plywood did you use in this video because I want to buy some where I live.
Looks like birch its about $50-60 a sheet great for paint or stain.
It’s Baltic Birch plywood also known European cabinet plywood.
Yeah, I never liked using thin veneer on edging either. I always thought it was cheap and tacky.
Agree. I never found it good enough
It is..
Where'd u get your hat
excellent video. learned something very useful. What was really seamless was the way you incorporated pitching the products without loosing a beat. Excellent job.
Haha! Glad you thought so. Thanks!
This is the first video of yours I've seen. I'm working on a walnut media console and couldn't figure out how best to conceal the edges. The tongue and groove with angles is going to be perfect. I really like that you showed multiple solutions so I could determine compare and settle on what's best for my current project. The way you explain the pros and cons as you go and your general approach to woodworking makes learning more comfortable. I'll be checking out your other videos for advice as I navigate the pass from novice to intermediate. Thanks and cheers!
Awesome to hear! Good luck with your project!
Full Round, Glue in Dowel : )
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Any form of sensory deprivation is potentially hazardous, not only for or to you but more importantly to others who are casualties.
Hearing and eye protection important. lets not conflate them with means of entertainment
Or you could worry about your shop and she will worry about hers
Why am I watching this?
I don't even have a hand saw
Not sure. But glad you’re here 😉
I agree with the comments, this is a great channel, you show sensible projects with very sensible shop equipment. Good job
Awesome to hear
The most thorough and informative instructor i have seen.
Awesome to hear
I'm pretty sure I'm in love......
i agree with your edge band challenge, however its never a good idea to share attention when using power tools or driving for that matter. each require undivided attention, Its not fun having your digits reattached... trust me i know.
Rub it on your chest liberal
So no radio when you drive??
lol I'm guessing you probably can't chew bubble gum at and walk at the same time too? xD
@@mattfairfield9103 Presumptive...lol. Considering my injury was CAUSED by an inattentive earbud wearing space cadet.
@@joshcreager1140 Certainly. However I wouldn't expect you to understand.
You can go with a 45° Cut with the other cut so the other will make the board look thicker.
In no way does will that make a board look wider.
@@leonardhall7203 but it will make the board look THICKER.
@@dennisschickling5759 no, no it doesn't. I don't know why you think that. It only has one advantage which is more glueable surface which is a stronger bond.
@@leonardhall7203 if you have the flat board at 8 inches the one side cut at a 45° the other board at 3 inches also cut at a 45° and glue up the 2 45° together. The side profile will LOOK Like the board is 3 inches thick.
@@dennisschickling5759 no it doesn't. you're delusional. I'm not going to argue with crazy. Have a good day.
I like that your shop isn't full of fancy and expensive equipment. More practical woodworking like most of us watch. Thanks for the videos.
Glad you like it. Funny how some ppl comment and say “yeah. If I had $40,000 worth of tools, I could make that too” they have no idea. Ha
@@3x3CustomTamar I just watched a maker apologize for not having a "sliding" miter saw and that he would have to make due with his regular one SMH. I was like, Really? You need to watch some episodes of Woodwrights dude! I like that you have invested more in your Incra miter setup than your tablesaw. Shows where your passion is. I also have a jobsite table saw and do a lot of great work on it.
I've used iron-on edge banding for years!! I use a heat gun & a pair of leather gloves so I don't burn my fingers!! I loved the tip about WD-40 on router bits. I do a lot of routing & it is definitely one of the biggest problems!!
Awesome
poor mans clamps,,, ratchet straps work very well.. things you tie stuff down on a pick up.
Wow, this is perfect because I was planning on edging a 3ft x 6ft plywood sheet.
Thanks
Stop using your hands as a mallet ! You will feel all of those hits in about twenty years and you do not need regrets !
Ah yes, paying for the sins of your use. Every hit will come back to haunt you with every time you need to use your hands.
I'm almost 80. Trust me, you don't need it !
While I appreciate the need for advertisers, nothing scares me more than something that distracts me from the work. You need 100% of your attention to the spinning blades.
I don't actually see the need for advertisers or sponsors. If your content is good your videos get plenty of views and you get revenue. Many woodworking channels are beginning to do away with them because the sponsors have generally started demanding how the ads are worded and where in the video they're placed and how much of the video's time they take up. That douche that pushes the Saw Stop relentlessly and the one that pushes the Powermatics being exceptions. Sponsors ruin videos and my interest in a channel. As I understand the revenue stream the sponsors are also a fairly short term and temporary revenue stream that drops off after a year or two as the sponsors switch to newer channels.
Got a wild hare up to look at manufacturing gaming tables (Ideally to sell as a side project/hustle/whatever), and this is 100% my plan to make customizable edges for the dining table top/vault cover. I can make them flush for people who like the square/modern edge look, or with a little more material, add some fancy edge profiles for folks feeling more traditional.
Custom quilting island needed a top. Used 3/4” Baltic Birch. I used some figured sugar maple I’d harvested from the property a few years back. Your clever idea for the router groove on both parts and using a 1/4” spline was perfect! Special thanks from a fellow homeschooler.
Glad you liked it!
I dont like edge banding,i use plywood as it is or all solid wood
I think a lot of time is wasted,so the client get an inferior result at almost the same price!
I might loose a bit of money but the client is happy for a long time!
I have loads of custom 50mm open edge ply for all window sills! Everyone comes around loves it!
@@FiscalWoofer it looks so good when rounded or bevelled, making a feature of it, especially when stained up and varnished
Nice coverage. But running my table saw while plugged into audible? Nope. "Oh look! Is that my hand on the floor?"
LOL! But it is good to multi-task... if you can!
Agreed! I never listen to books while running machines in my shop, and I rarely listen to music then too. I just think it's too easy to get distracted and lose a finger (and I have a SawStop!).
Thanx Tamar. A humble tip: to help old, tired eyes, may I suggest you use dark hardwood for the edge in your demonstrations? The contrast in wood colors makes for a better visual aid.
Yeah I hear that. That’s why I did the other ones for the thumbnail.
Just commenting because I can't "like" this video a second time! So helpful! Thank you!
Awesome to hear!
I can't think of anyone who loves to have their videos interrupted for bill paying (sponsor hawking), but I love how you did yours. By continuing the work while telling people about something relevant to the task was rather smooth. I didn't feel the need to skip forward in the video at all. So win/win and I guess win for us all.
Thanks for the feedback. Awesome to hear
I've watched this video so many times, my wife thinks I have a crush. I am planning on building my own cabinets when we remodel our kitchen. Definitely using one of these methods for the front edges. Planning on Euro Cabinets.
Side note: I'm also going to cast my own pulls out of brass, Reishii mushrooms.
Good luck!
that's just fantastic! didn't even think of how it is possible to hide a plywood origin for such stuff, brilliant! thanks a lot
Ha! Glad you liked it!
You freaking have all the good ideas! Nice work.
Glad you like it!
Thanks for the great video Tamar! I'm a newby and started working with plywood boards for a cabinetry project so your video on edging options is just what I needed.
Honestly I like to see those lines at the plywood edge, nice sanded and apply poly beautiful to see nice brown and almond colors.
Depends on the look you’re going for
@@3x3CustomTamar you're right. Specially when you double 3/4 plywood I like but I also take you great idea of cover it .
Good presentation. You nailed the whole of plywood edge finishing in under 20 and it told me everything I needed to know.
Great job!
Thanks so much! Glad you found it informative
Tamar I Love whatever option you choose. You've got me loving woodworking more.
Awesome
Hi Tamar,
Thanks for showing the various edge banding options. Very cool.
And I love your enthusiasm for the trade.
Thanks again!
Well done with the w 40 oil to avoid the router-bits burns out...it is something new, I do not knew yet,until now that I wacthed your video, on how to do different ways to adjoin e wood-edges...also I saw another of your videos,where you made beauriful boxes with trigle-patterns. Ofcourse, here in mexico,I do not have lots,and lots of machinery and lots,lots of clamps!!! Like you in your shop; like it make me feel that Iam a carpinter but from the stone-edge! That I got to build a router table out of solid wood,rather than play wood,because here in mexico it is too expensive,which it would it be much easer and better router table and also the saw-table,I made it too!!! But it does the job,,since I just began working with wood !! Well, thank you for your expertise shared!! Iam one of yours admirer! Greetings from mexico,beautiful girl!
Really cool methods. I love how you explore and show multiple techniques, which allows people with varying tool sets to still achieve results.
Glad you like it!