How to make these Alternative Dovetail Joints (The Knapp Joint)
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In this woodworking video, I show you how to make an alternative dovetail joint - The Knapp Joint. If you enjoy making or learning how to make dovetail joints, you will really enjoy the woodworking tips that I share in this project video.
This was a great challenge that I thoroughly enjoyed working out.
I'm very pleased with the results but I'm more than happy to hear of any improvements that could be made. :)
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Uncharted territory, making tools so you can build something that nobody is doing. Hats off to you sir .
Dedication at its finest
I want him to show us how to make that patented thingy that is made for doing them... :-D
@@nickbrutanna9973 Look up the patent, it'll have diagrams of all the important parts
Check out watchmaking videos. Seems like half of the job is making tools to do the job.
I'm stoned and clicked on this expecting a video about joints.
Still wasn't disappointed. Nice video man
LMAO😂
legend!
Im not used to this kind of joints too :v
I was watching till the end always thinkig it is about Joints. Hoping they would say it at the end what it has to do about Joints😂
a nice mull of acorns...eh?
I am really impressed with your problem solving abilities.
I can see myself building some of those jigs to solve other problems I am having at the moment.
Being a Knapp for 36 years never heard of this joint before. Glad my name's on something useful.
Every school needs a woodwork teacher like you man. You put just as much effort into describing your work as your do with the practical side.
Cheers for the videos mate!! 👌🏻
Do they still do woodwork in schools these days?
Thanks very much Alan! :)
@@CelticSaint yes! I am a wood shop teacher. I don't teach this joint though😬 But I do teach dove tails. Hanover PA. USA.
@@CelticSaint My school still has all the equipment but its not its own thing, its used sometimes by the FFA.
Phenomenal. I get this joint as a request for Joint of the Week all the time. No chance I'm trying it now. You just wrote the book, manual and bible. Great work my friend.
Hahaha I sent a request to you to do that too Jonathan :-)
You can build on this!
I like how you say "I'll need to put my thinking cap on" to find an upcoming project to use this joint method after having designed and solved a method by which to create the joint in the first place.
always worth seeing his carpentry skills , the mans a genius .
Oh boy was that a labor of love! The patience of a saint.
Admirado por tu gran inteligencia . Increíble capacidad de resolver problemas . Felicitaciones amigo.
You did well on this and I give you absolutely major points for going about it in the frontier perspective. I am impressed with your problem solving technique. Thanks for sharing this gem!
All the best to you and yours!
I had seen this joint on an old organ wind box and wondered how they made them in production. Excellent video, thank you. Lincoln, NE, USA
You tackle the hard projects, and this is why I love your channel so much. Thanks for sharing your talents.
I've always wanted to make that joint! Thanks for sorting it out Neil!!
No worries! :)
It is great to see someone finding these older ways of doing things and reteaching them again. Beautiful joint and thx for sharing it.
It is refreshing to see heat treatment done properly on UA-cam, this is the first time I have seen it.
For heat treatment porn go watch clickspring.
@@thehorriblebright Oh god yes
@@thehorriblebright Or go to Alec Steele's channel.
Amazing. I can’t get enough of people doing their own mods.
This is a superb wood working book I`ve ever read, t.co/z6o0f8z2H4 . Both novice and some skilled woodworker can gain a lot of general info using this reading material. I`ve been very amazed how frequently I use this to look up woods at places like to restore and salvage spots.?
I've seen these joints on old furniture and wondered how they were made. After watching this I want to start making some of my own.
I don’t do any sort of wood working. But this video has totally made me wish I did.
I think I counted about 19 tools he has I don't own, so I'll just enjoy his work skills!
I love how much of a perfectionist you are. Wish i could come stay, build and learn from you for a month
love the joint have seen this in many pieces of furniture, but never had the time to figure out a simple method to make them. This is very clear. thanks!
"Simple" lol
@@774471jr ha! nice. once you have the jigs made though, it really isn't too complicated. even those are not difficult for a carpenter who is worth his salt.
I have never heard off this joint ! As a huge fan off dove tails I'll be giving this one a go for sure ! Amazing work !
Time sounds,
I'm a huge fan of joints in general, this one is not well known for being so cool looking!
@@dansmolen1618 You must be from Northern California...(wink,wink)
It's a joke - NorKali grows a large amount of dope. Strangely enough, there's also a lot of dopes there. Go figure.
(and no, I'm not making fun of you at all - that was just a great setup line and my warped mind just could not pass it up!!!)
@@thomream1888 you're a funny guy Thom. I really am going to make something with this Knapp joint,can't believe I'd never saw this earlier In life!a real light colored,and a real dark colored wood together,would just really set it off! GO PACK! I'm from Northern Cheesehead country!
@@dansmolen1618 It really is a cool-looking joint. And I'd never seen it until this video. Are you a woodworker? This looks like a difficult joint to make and it's way beyond my skill level.But give me a Skillsaw and I can chop fingers off with the best of them!
Your "thinking cap" and problem solving skills are brilliant! Also, your video was easy to follow and well-produced. Thank you!
one of the most beautiful joints i have ever seen. i think it must be obvious when used in furniture, not hidden. every piece of furniture would become the true piece of art with this joint exposed. thank you for sharing this with us.
I've been wanting to make a tool box out of wood and this joint looks like it would be perfect. Both strong and decorative.
Maybe a good idea for a scrap wood challenge
As a carpenter in training I'm really glad I found this channel, You have my thanks :D
I have projects I want to build, then I watch your videos and want to build jigs all day long! Please keep up the excellent work!
Saw this joint on a antique Eastlake mens dresser and wondered how to make the joints. Thank you for sharing this! I'll have to give it a try this winter.
That's a beautiful joint. I'll definitely have to mark this for future reference. Thank you for sharing with us.
Absolutely fantastic, unforgettable, masterful.
I've seen these on old crates, so I figured they must have been cheap and easy enough to make once upon a time, but never knew how. Nice work!
I have always had great admiration for people who know how to use tools well. You are the next level creating your own bits and jigs like that. Absolutely awesome sir! Beautiful joint too!
I love the ingenuity...I'm going to use the spade bit trick to make my own plug cutter!
Can't believe I've been woodworking for like 8 years and this is my first time seeing this lol. That's really cool!
That is one of the most aesthetically pleasing joins I've ever seen!
Just lovely. I appreciate the fact that you share your trials and challenges. It's a confidence builder to know that, even for a very experienced woodworker, perfection is an iterative process and an elusive goal
In one word: Wow! With a father and two grandfathers who were carpenters, I had never seen anything like this.
was just having that conversation with my dad, neither of us had heard of it and as many of the woodworking shows he watches on saturday morning PBS they hadn't ever shown it. Thinking someone needs to write This Old House and see if they can get Tommy to explain it...
I have a cnc machining center in my shop that is underused. Now to find the drive to start.
Pity they weren’t cabinetmakers ....
That should be called the “Brass Knuckle Joint” looks to be amazingly strong and beautiful to boot
My dad was a carpenter. This is the sort of thing he used to do. It was a pleasure watching you work - nice to see your attention to detail.
Awesome work, I love those little workarounds that crop up in all projects I seem to take on, with a little fine tuning and brainstorming theres always a fix. Thoroughly enjoyed this with all your improvements, you are a master craftsman sir....
Never seen this type of joint before and like the look of it. I like the indexed method for the first part, cutting one detail per cut. Would be nice to use the same or similar with the other part maybe with some sort of broaching tool with a vertical reciprocating movement. Anyway thanks for this super thought provoking project.
Yeah, something like an arbor press and a half-circle gouge. The trick is constructing the gouge, as I can't think of an easy source for quench-hardenable pipe.
beautifully complicated over engineered joint, gotta love it :D
Wow! Just blown away by your work. Methodical and so precise, working through all the problems to get such a perfect result. Can't wait to see this in a project.
That is incredible my friend. That joinery is beautiful and I have never seen it until now. You’re a genius man. The way you jigged it up for this joint is incredible. You are extraordinary and inspiring. Thanks for sharing.
Overwhelmed with the creativity and simplicity of this magnificent joint. Very, very impressive!!! Thank you!!
Glad you liked it Scott! :)
Scott Barrett kj@l@lzz
Such a beautiful joint, wonderfully executed. I love seeing your thinking process and how you make your jigs and templates. You've got yourself a new subscriber.
Thought I was clicking on a joint rolling vid but stayed for the expert woodworking
my work has become more and more dependent on CNC machines, but seeing you make all of this with your hands was so refreshing and relaxing, thank you
Ah the utilitarian. The problem solving here is beautiful. Smart man you are.
What a neat solution to make this cool looking joint! I'm definitely going to try this. I also love the idea of scribing a line to reduce chip out. I'll be stealing that idea for all sorts of jobs. Thank you!
Glad you liked it Mike! :)
It's a super useful technique it very quickly makes your work look better and cleaner.
Knife walls/cut lines are 0ld Sk00l joinery techniques. They're tried and true.
Paul Sellers may have invented them during the bronze age. ;)
Fascinating! I love watching these kind of shop videos. People's creativity always amazes me. I wish my brain worked in this way.
Great video sir! I had heard of the joint type but never seen a demonstration of a non factory manufacture process. Really impressed, and nice to see it faults and all, no bull, one of the best woodworking instructions I've seen for years.
I'm a carpenter and my grandfather was a furniture maker. But this is the first time I have seen it. Looks fun, so I am going to try and maybe use it in a project myself.
That's great to hear Peet! :)
This Old Tony would be a good collaboration on this.
Matthias Wandel's Pantorouter would make it a snap.
Yes but he would probably make aluminum drawers... That actually sounds pretty cool
@@mrjp2149 yes ! with his new/old cnc machine (MAHO). Wooden drawers with alluminium or stainless steel fronts.
@@caliguladeuxThat's true he did get it running!
TOT would make a knuckle duster and beat it into submission. But in reality a form tool with sharp edges could be used with a press. Basically like a cookie cutter idea.
Dude ...how could someone thumbs down this haha the amount of work 😳
You are becoming my favorite wood worker because of how you build your own tools. I really love your problem solving ability. You give me great inspiration to be better than I am! Keep up the great work, you are appreciated!
Thoroughly enjoyed that! Thanks for showing all the details Neil. Very unique joint.
The Knapp Dovetailing Machine, what an interesting and complex machine.
Absolutely! I wish I could find out more about it and how it worked! :)
Google is your friend. There's patents with drawings and text, as well as an article on www.finewoodworking.com (gotta be a subscriber to read it though). And lots of other stuff.
Never heard about this joint style until I saw your video. Thank you.
Can't wait to see more of your awesome work.
this has been popping up on my youtube for about a month, just over, as of possible interest. it was. I thoroughly enjoyed it. congratulations, mate. nice project idea.
Hey,
just wanted to say what an inspiration you are to me. After watching your videos I've been inspired to try woodworking myself. Sadly, I live in an apartment in UAE (i am from India) and have no access to wood or woodworking space and am just a 15 year old.
Hopefully i will remember your channel try to make something myself when i will be older.
P.S your videos are great especially the scrapwood challenge
Same I would love to do more woodwork.
I know what you mean by living in an apartment, especially with a family. I was in an apartment for 8 years until I had enough and left town with my family and we found a house (much cheaper) with a single car garage, which I'm now converting into a shop. Now I'm buying tools again. I am excited to get started! I am 60. (Dang, that is weird writing down that large number!)
Keep your goal. So.edsy, you will have all the woodworking tools you need.
Imaduddin Zanjani all you really need to start woodworking is a saw, a plane, and a couple of chisels. You could start with some small projects in your apartment. Look into some resources like Japanese style woodworking or western style woodworkers like Paul Sellers where most everything is done by hand to get you started. It’s also a good way to get a good foundation in basic skills.
A simple and usually free resource for wood is old pallets. Many places are always looking to get rid of them.
I'm trying to figure out how people give this a thumbs down? This was awesome.
Because the internet. Logic says one in twenty humans are horrible little shits.
Because they feel they're not talented enough to do something like this, so they have to shit on those that are.
I don't think I could ever do what he did, but rather than be jealous, I'm impressed... in awe...I aspire to even be half the carpenter he is.
Trump's Tiny Hands 1 in 20? I thought it wood be higher.
Bots. There are bots that generate likes for certain videos to push them higher up in the algorithm, so that they start getting shown to actual people. Those bots need to behave similar to humans, so they can't just like one video, and they like & dislike random other videos to fool the bot detectors. 345 out of 15K is such a low number that it seems to me like it must be bots and maybe misclicks.
@@Blitterbug So you're saying that people are not entitled to their opinion unless it matches your own? What a horrible little shit you are.
You are the Master of Invention.... You always find a way to accomplish what you want to achieve even if you do not have the exact tools. True inspiration. Aussie Aussie Aussie
Amazing. I've been working on trying to solve that one for a while, didn't know what it was called. This video is definitely a must try.
Great looking joint!
Thanks I thought myself how to roll with jokers at first cause u can roll barb wire in those...
Thankyou for sharing such an amazing item, I've never even seen this type of joint before and I bet a lot of other people haven't either. Love the videos and the content that you share keep up with the great work 👍 👌
No worries Steve! I only saw it for the first time a couple of years ago! :)
Heckuva fine result, and the instructional was impeccable! I remember that years ago, Fine Woodworking magazine had an article by a Bermudan man, who showed how these were done, half by hand, on that island.
I just had to see how you did this. What a great looking joint! Well done!
Well explained, very clear. Good filming. That's really great work!
Well done! I have a friend and former broworker at Shopsmith, Jim McCann, who produced a beautiful version of the Knapp joint that was featured on a lingerie cabinet that was featured in one of the Fine Woodworking design books. His scallops were almost full circles, so he renamed it the Beaver Tail Joint. He hand cuts his tails on a scroll saw, which as you can imagine takes a ton of skill and lots of time. I’ve passed the link to this vid on to him and I’m sure he will appreciate your approach and will relate to your journey! Thanks for sharing, Scott
The beaver tail joint sounds cool and cut by hand - wow! :)
There are a lot of folks making cool stuff out there. But none , in my opinion, are as good as your are. Your explanations and the awesome ideas you have (like the improved and easier way to cut out the tight corners) are really unique and outstanding. Thanks for putting so much effort into the video and this awesome channel of yours. Take care!!
Makes a dovetail joint look like childs play. Well done!
Aaaand there's my weekend project. Thank you AGAIN for a wonderful idea for my weekend! Your ideas give me a bit of peace.
Glad you like it! :)
@@PaskMakes ...and I'm really looking forward to the weekend, got my wood together already, spruce for testing, beech and red alder for the final piece, grinding my drill tonight.
Yet again Pask I was blowing away with this video amazing as usual I really enjoyed it and interesting 😄😄
Neil, I don't know what you do for a living, but you are a cut above the average youtube improvisor. Thank you for all the ideas sir.
I love how methodical your process is. Awesome build. Thank you for sharing!
You. Are. A. Genius.
Nothing more to say, other than pointing out how much I enjoy your videos.
I wouldn’t mind if you made one per day ;-)
I'm so glad Matthias sent me here 😍
What the hell matthias is my friggen brother.
my grandmother had a chest of drawers with joints like these, your the first person to know anything about them. I was beginning to think i was nuts
what a beautiful, decorative joint!
Neve seen these joints before but I really like them.
wow awesome ideas !!!
I'm your avid fun mr suny.
Brilliant
I love and hate watching your videos Pask. Love it because they are amazing and hate them because adds one more thing I want to try to an ever growing list. Your sometimes simple, yet overly effective, approach to any problem inspires me to try them all. Keep making vids and inspiring all of us. Thanks.
That is one of the most satisfying joints I have ever seen. Thank you.
LOVE the joint - don't see me doing it though. Just a bit too ... fiddly. Might try knitting with my toes ..or braiding nose hairs into corn rows or something a little less challenging. 🤣🤣🤣
I couldn't see the smileys so i don't know if you are joking. Knitting using toes is tough sir! That's some crazy level out there.
braiding nose hairs into corn rows is nothing to sneeze at...
I never knew I wanted to do this until I saw this video.
Great video, thanks. It’s great how you describe your steps, what worked for you and what you’d change, it makes the process so much more interesting. I really admire what you do.
Thanks for that explanation of the Knapp Joint. A really strong and nice looking touch to any joint!
Matthias sent me... Neat story, and interesting technique.
Паск как всегда ходит по грани: из пары сверел, фанеры и пары досок делает вещи, недоступные даже очень рукастым мастерам. Классика😉
Спасибо! :)
Yes ha ha ha ha lol
It's amazing how creative you can be when you have an ultimate set of tools !
Awesome. We just don't see this kind of thing anymore. Time is money which drives today's world but it's great to see that you took the time to be a real craftsman. Well done.
Fascinating to watch! Thanks, Neil!
Awesome video and you've shown me how to make an easy plug cutter, too!
Good idea. Commercial plug cutters leave a slightly tapered plug (so that you can tap it in and get a good fit). The only change needed would be making the cutout in the spade bit a little wider at the end.
Brilliant! 👏It’s great to see this skill being brought back! I look forward to seeing a big project made with this joinery!
Ingenuity at its best. A very skilled workman.
The templates you made seem to have worked great!
It would be cool to see you make a round corner after it has been jointed. An unexpected shape may arise
Nothing short of brilliant, very interesting to watch and like your problem solving
Great work, and I like your video technique; no unnecessary explaining when we can see what you are doing, and no annoying music. Good job!
Well done for producing a fantastic explanation for what at first glance looks like a complicated joint to cut.
To many things on my plate at the moment but I'm looking forward to a quiet Sunday afternoon with no children about!