Two of Minecrafts Best Furnace Arrays
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2022
- Here is one of the projects I have been working on in the background, precision furnace arrays. With the introduction of cart yeeting mechanics I was finally able to get them completed to a level I am satisfied with, so I hope you find these furnace arrays useful.
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Have to wonder if Gnembon is behind this new cart yeeting stuff. It's seemingly so mundane, but really it's a game changer
who's gnembon?
@@NoNameAtAll2 Creator of the carpet mod, part of scicraft, technical Minecraft legend who has started working at Mojang and is likely responsible for many small tweaks that better the game for technical players
It was methodzz I'm pretty sure
@@shreyasadireddy87 definetly not
@@user-ef8kc4rv7n I think it was kingBdogz
12:55 For the uninitiated, the concept of 'shulker box in --> shulker box out' is special because with most large furnace arrays, the output for each module (or group of modules) is handled separately so the output would be split among multiple shulker boxes
Yes I found this very annoying with wavetechs current furnace array design, it was especially noticable when we smelted all of that ancient debris.
@@cubicmetre 3:17 What key did you hold down to get all of those porkchop stacks without clicking?
@@benjaminlandry6586 you pick up the item and hold down middle click and drag it
@@cubicmetre in rare occasions occasions the items is smelted to late to get picked up by the minecarts. Can you add more delay to the repeater line before items are getting picked up from the minecarts or does this mess up the whole system?
@@marvinlemmer9733 It shouldn't be doing this, make sure the furnaces are empty and there are no stray items anywhere after building it. We have experienced similar issues when pasting the array in on our creative server so we had to run it a few times and replace the furnaces with world edit to remove the errors created by pasting.
*super technical breakdown of redstone functionality*
"we yeet the carts"
I died
I've made 1728 arrays before because I love the balance of being able to put one box in and guarantee that the array will smelt at max speed, but I've not done it with hopper locking, or with the advantage of full minecart dropping. This has definitely inspired me to start over again when 1.19 actually releases :)
Screw designing things in the snapshots...
1728, im like hey whats up hello
Do you have any idea on what is going on in the shoulder loaders?
I love that you spend the first few minutes on the basic ideas involved. It makes it so much easier to follow along afterwards.
God blesses the people responsible for this cart change
wow! im so excited when i see a new cubic metre video and this was a good one, keep up the great work
I never understood how people can make a furnace array that smelts a shulkerbox in 30sec. This video explains it very well. I love your educational videos man!
That’s why I recommend cubicmetre to everyone that is learning redstone.
The separation of the minecarts is so satisfying
Awesome
dude, you are a living legend. all your projects blow my mind
Its so amazing how redstone has advanced over time with updates. I rememeber back when before observers you had to have a piston BUD switch to "observe" an object and in order to move items up you had to use a whole chain of droppers. And then there is the hopper clock, which would be four hoppers (though that might just have been since I was new to redstone at the time).
Absolutely incredible as always man
I gave a shot once to a furnace built on those principles. After weeks it turned out... okay, but complicated. Those timings, the even distribution... The "ten seconds furnace" I called it. And I didn't even got over 20 furnaces if I remeber well.
You're good at it! :)
When you build this make sure to press the button next to the Hopper clock to give each furnace one fuel item before using it. I had issues where the fuel didnt reach some furnaces early enough to start and to finish the smelting operation before the minecards unload the items
Pushing button didn't out coal out, but manually loading 1 in each made it work great for me.
For anyone having an issue with 32 items not coming back from the array: preload all furnaces with one charcoal before running it for the first time.
did you ever get it to work on a server? i build it on paper server and the collection cart doesnt seem to pick up all items, with random leftovers here and there in hoppers. sometimes up to 12 backed up! double checked schematica and still cant get it to work properly
@@ploxl1441a lot of red stone stuff and mechanics in vanilla break in paper because of security and optimization concerns, as far as what mechanic I have no idea
@@davidhanft5927 locationality is a huge issue in craftbukkit (spigots forks and etc)
@@ploxl1441 paper breaks literally all of technical minecraft
I do not simply appreciate your work, I idolize it!
This is fantastic, good work.
This vid came in clutch...good timing for release.
Nice furnace array definitely build one
hello cubemetre, I'm subbed to you since I first saw your obsidian farm which was recommended in my home page, absolutely love your videos
One of the most underrated redstoners out there. Too good
@@vinicus508 all the redstoners are underrated :')
@@rxyc Untrue. Some are overrated even. Some people see Mumbo as the best of the best...
@@vinicus508 true but that's like a fraction of redstoners if you ask me, majority is underrated
@@rxyc Yes, it's sad.
That second smelter is nuttily ingenious. 100/10 build man, fucking insane
Yeah that was pretty fantastic. Great video.
Im Always waiting die your next Video. You got me deep into StorageTech... Thx
I love this vid.......but i cant wait for the new storage system in wavetechhhh
Oh my gosh, I am so proud I made a 1.18.2 one that is almost the 64 one, only mine is as lame as yours is awesome.
Great job!
thanks for the schematic! works perfectly in 1.20!
Thats good, I recently replaced the schematic with a fully setup array with a working input. The one in the video did not have a working input.
@@cubicmetre Speaking of working input... I'm struggling to understand why I can't fire the system to start when there is no fuel in the chest that feeds into the chest minecart.
ex. There is fuel in the chest minecart ready to go, there are items in the chest minecart ready to be smelted, press the button and it doesn't go. It only goes is there is fuel in the double chest that feeds into the fuel chest minecart.
I don't know if this is by design or I did something wrong. Please help. Everything looks perfect vs the Litematica
Thank you!
***Correction, It only fires if there is fuel in the HOPPER that is feeding down into the fuel chest minecart!***
Still works great! I had a problem with some redstone that should/shouldn't been powered near the target block but after I pressed the button a couple of times it fixed itself.
Awesome design!
This is the superior furnace
Its a great sunday already, cubicmetre uploaded a video.
Im on a MP server with Unifriends, lets see what I can do and build until the server dies🤣 Cubicmetre is a huge inspiration for builds
I love those designs! Ilmango has also put out two videos on furnace arrays lately using the new 1.19 mechanics. In his latest one he fills the shulker box at the end using 4 droppers. You may want to check it out and use it to improve your mega furnace array.
My mega furnace array already uses 8x hopper speed box loading, which is the max speed for auto box loading because you simply run out of surfaces to put droppers that feed the shulker. For reference an 8x box loader uses 4x droppers.
@@cubicmetre how about breaking the shulker box wiith tnt?:D
Amazing!
Thank you it wil help me
17 seconds ago?!? Damn, UA-cam is actually sending notifications :D
Spectacular! :)
Commeting as always to show my support.
this is amazing
That minecarts shuriken is really something else
that is a good system and well optimized. What I would have done is to connect it with the output of a bamboo farm, sure its not effective for long term smelting jobs, but usually you generate overtime more bamboo than you need for smelting as its not something you constantly always do, and with bamboo you can at much ease to small smelting jobs too without worrying youre wasting fuel.
Love this shit. Keep it up man
That quote though 😆😅
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
~ Thanos
If anything I have learned about minecraft is that the simplest way to do something for job you want to do most of the time. I have found that the solution is to have a maximum of 10 furnaces in an array which is ample for most jobs. I use the minecart with rails on top of the fuel and product input hoppers to make sure the input is distributed evenly. Also I will note that if you fill the fuel hopper slots 2,3,4,5 with 1 dirt each this will keep them from filling up with fuel that is just going to sit unused. Dirt or any non fuel item will not pass into the furnace and will remain in the hopper. With this setup I also puta solid block with a level on the front of each output hopper under each furnace so I can retrieve the EXP for each furnace after smelting numerous items, especially cactus which yields 1 EXP per cactus smelted. With cactus farms and a Lava farm I have a good system,
it looks absolutely amazing when people push minecraft to its limits
I am utterly gobsmacked at that 1728 array!
This with your dirt farm are the best... I alrady designed a personal supersmelter in circle but I will like to build somthing like this some day in an other part of my world
wake up babe new cubicmetre video
Wow. Can't wait to see your autobrewer!
This is art
I was searching for furnace array
I will start building big one now and wait for 1.19
unbelievable system :)
Incredible
Great work c³
C?
This is a very smart system
Cart yeeting
nice
Thought I'd note that making use of EssentialAddons mod on 1.20.4 breaks the cart yeeter in the 64 furnace array. Had to remove it or items would not be ejected from the carts (carts would break, no items dropped).
Imagine what these people would be capable of with something like the create mod
You give the entire industrial genre of Minecraft mods an existential crisis with your contraptions, what was the point of all of those mods if we could just have gotten into the nitty gritty details of the existing automation system of Minecraft vanilla? It always felt insufficient and half-arsed but its just that the mechanics are really obscure. At this point I feel like I am on a tangent, played Minecraft since 2009-10ish, currently stuck on some industry and pollution themed modpack of my own for the last few weeks starting over and over from not being able to decide on what fits my modpack better or worse. I haven't defeated the enderdragen, the wither, I dont feel like I managed to completely explore the nether prior to the nether biome update. Tamed my first cat since they were even added like yesterday.
You make the whole automation and technology thing only overtly supported by mods seem like it is part of the vanilla progression experience.
Great video, having watched all of it yet but would it be possible to create a furnace array the furnace input has an item filter so you could use different furnaces to get and even faster output. Not sure if this would be worth but thought it could be interesting
Wow, really helpful video! I definitely build this in my world. Can I use kelp blocks also as fuel?
The reason for using coal/charcoal is the burn time doesn't waste too much fuel if you are only doing one or two smelting operations. The more burn time the fuel has the less efficient the array will be for smaller smelting operations. However you can use kelp blocks if you adjust the timings to match the burn time of the kelp blocks.
I had built the 1728 furnace array in my world, during using and building, I found some question.
1, there are two hopper in material input part missed.
2, the shulker loader will product shulker box with 3~18 items, so I need fill shulker manually.
3, In a smelting period, the furnace will keep some items(about 8 stacks).
4, If fuel run out, we can't take all item out of furnace because the minecart in hopper isn't filled by collecting minecart.
there is no way to get smelted item with less effort.
5, sometimes the minecart with hopper will lay on the rail.
6, the shulker boxes in fuel unloader couldn't drop into water, it's a tiny problem.
in general, this furnace array designed with some brilliant idea, I do love those fantastic design, especially the material unloader system and 8 times shulker loader. But it's too precise, so lack of some robustness.
I am tired for fixed it throughout backup. So I would build another 3840 furnace array near this one. And I will not remove this one, hopefully I can upgrade it one day.
Poggers furnace array! You and ilmango are making me jealous! Need to do one myself soon... 👀👀👀
Yeah, I was kinda surprised he didn't utilize the boat chest in minecart feature to load more furnaces at once, but ig in this context that isn't really neccecary or useful. It kinda relies on the hopper minecarts after all
@@DialecticRed using the chest boats isnt helpful.
@@inspectortalon That's what I was saying, not in this situation. They can be helpful in other contexts tho, or in furnace arrays built specifically around that feature (like the one Ilmango made)
@@DialecticRed ehh, i think most of the time their not that great tbh.
@@DialecticRed for the one mango made, it would be better to just use a chest cart.
I love technical minecraft
We lost portal slicing, but we got minecart yeeter
finally, something better to replace my arrays, woot!
Aussie power!
P.S. The title should be Here’s with an apostrophe. I’m a bit grammar OCD
Now you need to do one with lava buckets connected to an automatic lava farm, and blast furnaces connected to your automatic gold and iron farms
Renewable lava wasn't a thing in 2020 yet. Damn bamboo lasting like 2 seconds as fuel! There was needed like 78 bamboo plants to keep a furnace 100% uptime burnin.
Emezing
This is epic. Just curious if there's an easy way to make it compatable with pre-1.19 versions and with automatic carpet duping, so you don't have to input any fuel. I'm not smart enough for that.
will we ever get a full tour of all the stuff you have made for the wavetech server? I would love to see that
He posted all his major projects on his channel and even some projects he didn’t design all by himself. (He joined the server relatively recently)
Trolle has a few good tour videos on his channel, and I showcased one or two locations in a recent vid on mine as well but trolle's is waaay better
Using the 1.19 mechanics should help with my projects once it's released.
Just wondering is the loader in the full shulker box smelter using the box fill level to break the box or the input level?
I’ve been troubleshooting the input cart dispatch piston staying extended and preventing the cart from automatically cycling again if there are more items to smelt… disabling QC fixes it, but I can’t seem to find anything that should be powering it. Any advice? Schematic was followed to a T, though I downloaded it quite some time ago and have since upgraded the server to 1.20.
Lava fueling bettah!
Anyway cool design
While lava is theoretically a much better fuel than coal, I'm not sure there's way to automate removing the empty bucket once the lava is used up by a furnace.
Furnace go brr? Yay!
Could I get some help with the shoulder based design? I can't get the items to actually go back into the boxes. I don't know why it isn't triggering, but nothing happens when items start going into the loader besides that a few observers start flashing.
me waiting for the 8 porkchops to smelt in 80 seconds,
meanwhile cubicmetre smelting 1500+ items in 10 seconds:
Ilmango aproves
nice
Have some questions.
Can I add an infinite fuel system? Can I build a carpet dupper or bamboo farm and connect them to the fuel system or it will break because of the amount needed or the tick timing?
And about the tick timing, if my world is running with lag. The timing will break or not?
i think if you reduce the amount of items in the hopper clock, it should work. coal smelts for 10 secs and 100 items were used (i think) so 10 * [number of seconds the fuel smelts for] might work
With bamboo being so easy to farm, do you have any designs for bamboo-fuelled arrays, or could these ones be adapted by adjusting the timings of their clocks?
do you have to put in fuel everytime u use it? because the chest minecart only with the input items only leaves if the comparator detects fuel being inputted
anyone know how he made the chest loader for the small furnace array? been building this in survival and i dont understand how he has the hopper minecarts aligned inside the honey blocks
just place a rail on the last ice block, place a minecart then break the rail it will go to its place
so im having 12-15 items be left in the output hoppers. at first it was about 1.5 stacks being left but then i preloaded some fuel into the furnaces and it brought it down. but im still being left with some random smelted bits that arent making it in time for the hopper-chest to grab.
did you ever find a solution to this issue? i seem to have the same
@@ploxl1441same here…
in the 64 array what would happen if you use a fuel that doesn't last as long, would it break or could you adjust the timing according
what if i want to use carpets for the super smelter? how much items do i have to put in the ETHO hopper clock
In the small furnace array, how do you align the hopper minecarts inside the honeyblocks to cover all hoppers? And how do you get them to be that way?
i just can figure out how to start the system. it does nothing when i push the button and i used litmatica so all the blocks are correct
@Mikayla Rhodes It only starts if there are items in the chest minecart and if the hopper pointing into the fuel chest minecart has some items in it. If the hopper is empty (it is the one sucking items from the fuel input chest) the system will not turn on
@@TallDude Yes, this is the problem I'm having. You have to have a large amount of fuel ready it seems. I guess this is by design then?
Something I've been trying to make is a furnace array that allows for both the items and the fuel to be placed in a single container that would then be drained into the array. The main difficulty I've been having is actually how to load the chest minecarts to then unload and distribute the items/fuel evenly. Any tips on loaders and unloaders?
This furnace array is slightly incomplete, and that is mostly because I haven't figured out exactly how we want to use it on wavetech. However some ideas would be to build a small control room around the input then have an item call system for each of the chest cart loaders that requests full shulkers of fuel whenever one of them drops below a certain threshold.
I built the first array block by block from a schematic I took from the world download. I double checked all block states and made sure that my placements were correct. I have 2 problems, my collection cart's timing was leaving behind the right side of the array (32 smelted items) which I seemed to fix by placing a repeater set to 2 ticks at the start of the powered minecart rail line that powers the collection chest cart. My 2nd problem arose after this fix, the left side has scattered items left over that the collection system isn't picking up.
load every furnace with 1 coal first
Hey i have the same issue on a paper server, i tried your repeater solution but cant get it to work. i just have random leftovers as if the timing is wrong somewhere (either resource delivery at top or maybe collection cart). did you ever manage to get it to work?
Quality.
babe new mstp farm dropped
Oddly it's the furnaces that create the most lag. For some reason furnaces are very laggy.
I downloaded the schematic and rebuilt it. I see no errors in block placement/state. However, there seems to be an issue for me where the collection chest minecart is either mistimed, or doesn't travel enough times, causing it to miss half of the smelted blocks and they're left behind in the hoppers under the furnaces. I've had no luck trying to fix it myself. Any idea as to why/what is wrong?
Edit: I put 1 chest minecrart in each of the droppers and none in the dispenser and it works perfectly.
1:39 Cubicmetre talks about not wasting 1 of the 8 smelting operations of a piece of charcoal. And then at 2:56 he immediately proceeds to smelt a single item in each of his 64 furnaces. (i.e. wasting 7 of the smelting operations of each charcoal.)
I'd prefer to make furnace arrays with modules of 8 furnaces each and just wait 8 times as long. And if you want to smelt several stacks in parallel, you just build several modules next to each other. And any smelting array that wants to call itself "best" would need to distribute 8 items into each furnace until it runs out; and the next stack it would automatically distribute into the next 8 furnaces, and so on.
Also, I don't know how some designers of furnace arrays make wasting 7/8th of each piece of charcoal an integral design choice, but then are too cheap on charcoal to just fill the whole fuel stack of their furnaces.
I think this could be fixed simply by adding a item counter at the input, once 8*[amount of furnaces in array] is met the hopper under the chest will be unlocked & a timer will start so that there is exactly enough time to take x amount of items (for a 64 furnace array, that'd be a hopper clock of 512 ticks (assuming 1 item per tick)). This will also prevent items being added while the input is dispensing into the array from wasting fuel.
Edit: You could also add the same system for the fuel (1* instead of 8 for coal) that way it won't start until you have the fuel required. To link the counters together just add a AND gate.
@@akaEch0 Yup, that would be the easy way to build a smelting array that doesn't waste fuel. The downside would be that you can't smelt less than 512 items (in your example case), unless you fill the shortage with cheap smelting operations, like cobble/ logs/ cacti.
@@Pystro I rather do that than waste fuel.
Not sure what could cause the issue, but even building it/importing the schematics into a creative (making sure it's pointed north) the minecarts seems to still stop on the rail after the first couple of furnaces.
Great furnace array! Is there any way to check whether the player's input is in shulker boxes, stacks or singular items? If so, you could make 1 singular input and 1 singular output, with 3 differently sized furnace arrays behind! (3 different inputs could get confusing and 1 is more convenient)
Input handling is still a feature that needs to be added for when we implement this in survival.
Ah ok, but how do you actually do it?
Can you do a mid game storage? Like not as overengeneered like the ultimate storage but not as basic as the dolphin one. Like a ompact and smll hybrid storage. Would rlly appreciate it
I'm not sure what you mean, there isn;t really any unique tech I could make to fill the gap between the dolphin sorter and US, I would suggest starting with the US and downscaling it to a more basic storage system.
@@cubicmetre ok thanks :)
Hello cubicmetre, I pasted the small one with the chest output on my vanilla multiplayer server (1.19.4). Whenever I try to smelt 8 stacks of items, there seems to be a small random delay between the top resupply of the furnaces, which almost always causes the last item to not be smelted in time before the coal runs out. This causes the last stack of items to stay in the furnaces, waiting for another round of fuel. Any fix that I could apply ?
i have the same problem, ever found a solution?
is the small one directional because mine is fcing east and doesnt work. The collection minecart dispenses to soon when the rails arent up yet and it just gets droped as an item
have you figured it out, is it actually directional too?
@@leonidmeleshin4227 no im just dumb and used a dropper and didnt realized
Well now i need a big enough bamboo farm to keep it going...
Dunno man, as good as these are, the latter one uses an entire coal for just 1-1 item as I see. 1 coal should be enough for 8 items. Provided you change the fuel, to something infinitely renewable that you have set up a fully automatic farm for nearby, it can be pretty handy I guess, but you'd have to do that first. My first ideas would be either bamboo, or carpet duping, but technically, if you want to stay with coal, than building this entire thing in the nether, in the bounding box of a nether fortress, under a huge wither skeleton farm that supplies it with coal could also be an option.
Would it be possible to implement a carpet duplication system in one of the first two designs?
I mean, just add it… it can’t be that hard
@@PotatoCraft_TMC It is that hard tho. You need 24 times as much fuel. That would require some redesigning
@@vinicus508 it’s just dumb carpet dupers. Make water streams and dump as many carpets as needed and burn the overflow. Am I missing something?
@@PotatoCraft_TMC Yeah, there's no room in this system for water. He showed the slice.
However, the entire question is a moot point. It takes multiple pieces of carpet to smelt an item, and this system is designed to work with fuel that can smelt at least one. It would require multiple loading carts sent.
@@PotatoCraft_TMC That’s a pretty dumb/laggy way of doing it, plus it wouldn’t fit on both designs. It’s possible to make it work. But its not a 5 min solution