Using Science to Design a MAXIMUM Efficiency Iron Farm
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- A detailed explanation of iron farm mechanics and how to apply them :-].
Java only**
0:00 Intro
1:34 - Iron Farm Basics
4:10 - Impact of Time to Kill
7:02 - Impact of Time to Kill (Detailed Explaination)
10:15 - Reduce Time to Kill with Water & Drop
12:06 - Impact of Spawn Successes
15:23 - Nether Portals
16:56 - Impact of Scare Meathod
18:30 - Impact of Game Version
19:27 - Redstone Clocks with Iron Farms
22:18 - Impact of Nether Portal on Lag
24:11 - Empierical Evaluation of Nether Portal Lag
26:00 - Pushing Capacity Beyond Efficency
26:41 - My High Capacity Max Rate Proposed Design
27:44 - Pushing Capacity
29:20 - My High Capacity Proposed Design Caveat
30:40 - My Smaller Version Max Rate Proposed Design
31:34 - Thank You for Making it this Far :-]
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To fix the weather issue for the daylight sensor, you can build the farm in a desert biome since it doesn't rain or snow there
it still rains/snows it just doesn't visually appear (like you can still riptide trident even though you can't see the rain), so i believe it would still have the same problem
@@lythd riptide doesn't work in deserts unless they've changed that in 1.20
@@lythd and this farm was made in 1.18.2 so changes after that don't matter
@@flamespro6428indeed, but I think it still wouldn't work in deserts, since it does get darker during rain. But I didn't test it, so could be wrong
EDIT: and in fact I was wrong. It does work
@@lythdThat isn't true, what versions are you playing on?
As an engineer i can teally appreciate your deep dive into statistical analysis of minecraft
i didn’t understand why, in the formula, n was divided by 256
@@roccoberetti7066 which formula?
@@AlexJoneses 13:10
@@roccoberetti7066 The spawnable area is a 16x16 square, 16*16=256.
n = number of spawnable blocks within that 16x16 square. If the entire square is spawnable that gives 256/256 = 1.
1-1 = 0
(0)^30 = 0
1-0 = 1
Probability of spawn success = 1 (guaranteed) if all blocks are spawnable, which makes sense.
Of course, if there are less than 256 possible spawnable blocks, n/256 will give us the proportion of possible spawnable blocks e.g.128/256 = 0.5 (half of possible blocks are spawnable)
I hope this made sense, please let me know if I'm not very clear or if there is another question.
@@roccoberetti7066 My guess is the number of pixels per block the iron golems can spawn on. Meaning n (spawnable blocks) divided by 256 will give you the formula while taking into account every single pixel, other than just blocks as a whole.
If anyone is interested, I built the ~90% efficiency farm shown at 14:40. For a small group of friends on a server it was simple to build and is generating far more than we need. 5 blocks of space between the level the beds are on and the golem spawn floor, and a 10 block fall to the collection/kill area below that.
How much spacing between the farms
@@EXOTIC01 I believe he only built one of them, which is about 400 per hour, which quickly adds up to more than most people will ever need.
Cuántos bloques dejaste entre el módulo de abajo y arriba?
@billabong5366
Which is far beyond any reasonable time of converting the iron into emeralds in a trade hall
Maybe you don't read this, but if you were to build two rows of water and let a gap in the middle, would that increase the efficiency by doubling the blocks where the golem spawns?
Remember that kid in math class that said, "When are we ever gonna use this in real life?"
Finally, a youtuber who can do math. Very easy to follow and well laid out. 10/10
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@@07doanh6 hi deez nut, fuck you. You think they'll care about a simple "hi"? Sorry for being rude but you're not bringing anything new to the table.
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How is this not even above a thousand views?! Seriously underrated. I’m glad this was in my recommended, because this is the most useful iron farm video I’ve seen. Incredible work
Hey now, almost a thousand now ;-). Hopefully there will be continued growth :-] Glad you liked it!
Same :D very underrated, this is definetely gonna blow up!
same. only at 2,166 views now. Mind-blowing. The one time my recommended blew my mind.
@@WASH3D 5 thousand now, algorithm doing wonders
@@kylelewisjones2978 10000 - suggestions rollout in progress
Idk if all your videos are like this, but if so I will be subscribing. I love that you don’t just say “place blocks here and do this” you explain why your doing things. And how things work. This is huge for me. Watching other videos are a simple copy and paste what someone else did. This is great.
Glad you liked it, I try to explain the why in all of my videos :-]
@@NicoisLOST Yes, I too love this
Would you please consider making a video on building a (most efficient hostile mob farm) while also explaining how things work just like this video? Also maybe stuff like melon/pumpkin and sugar cane farms
Thank you very much
Maybe I need to check the channel first lol
Good quality and no bs. We need more like you. Keep up the good work.
Hey thanks for the nice comment and the super :-]. Really appreciate it!
@@NicoisLOSTdoes this farm still work in 1.20 i was thinking about building the 1M iron per hour but don’t want to take the time if it doesn’t work anymroe
Good for u I live in Indonesia it sucks to be born here
What shocked me the most is that even simple farm with lava blade already has 66% efficiency. That means two such modules would already have greater output than one module running at 100%. This goes to show that honestly, any panic-based iron farm that works, is good enough for most purposes.
Yeah basically right. Honestly no one needs to make a 100% efficient farm, unless thats what interests them :-], but its good for learning!
Then you need to make 2 100% farms
@@evanwesolowski3717 genius. Get this man a nobel peace prize.
Now 945k views
Well technically its still 66% efficient, because the output remains equal in comparison to production capacity :]
This is probably the best-communicated technical mc video I've seen I hope you make more soon
GEO funny seeing you here
lol i just saw your comment too
@@Geosquare8128 bless the yt algorithm for bringing tech fans together
Wow thanks, that's quite high praise, especially from someone who makes such awesome videos themselves. Really appreciated. :-]
@@Geosquare8128 You are a minecraft noob! Leave the platform!
It's nice to hear Mumbo getting props for discovering new redstone techniques 😄
I thought that too. I remember watching etho when hoppers came out, and thought about that when he said he used an etho hopper-clock. And then he mentioned mumbo, who I remember being really crafty like 8 years ago but being boring to watch
these are the videos i enjoy, where you not only get a base understanding but an in depth explanation, that also shows why things happen and encourages to build a better setup, and even playing bedrock its still fun to see these
Taking the "what factors matter" approach to solving a problem is my personal favorite. It's a simple approach that has you think through what variables actually have an impact and which are just unrelated noise.
You had me hooked at 25 seconds in when you showed the graphs. I love it when creators go and show the detailed math behind Minecraft mechanics instead of just putting a list of output data by each type of farm. I also work as a STEM tutor and will definitely be passing this video on to several of my students, thank you for the excellence in making it!
W tutor
Big W i did a paper about vision affecting leauge kills in uni and got an A lol
@@Gamer-nc8qp i have color blindness and between league and valorant ill just walk right past someone if the stay still. My solution was to memorize every turn, shape, and wall to effectively kill them.... cant be a pro but can still crap on a few people like this lol
W tutor
Sorry about the late reply, I didn't see the STEM tutor part. Very cool as part of my goal is to help teach ways of thinking that will benefit people who are interested in going into STEM fields :-]
the visuals on what you are talking about is very helpful to get a better understanding. thanks for putting the “show” into “show and tell”
I'm absolutely amazed by this video. The statistical analysis of the performance, the deep explanation and so on. This is just brilliant!
You know, even though this is absolutely the most pointless thing ever, it really brings home how amazing this game is at letting you make your own challenges. There's literally no reason to make more than a couple hundred iron bars an hour, but this man decided that the goal was the number itself, not what it's used for. And that is arguably equally valid to any other way of playing. Extremely nerdy and cool video mate
For me the goal is the understanding ;-). I think thats the fun part!
@@NicoisLOSThi i think that if you just spawn max mobs in every block that is anabel a golam to spawn when theyspawn they will alweys die so mybe that can help
I would like you to check that
@@machloof that is called entity cramming, and it sometimes used for iron farms, but it doesn't kill them very fast, and it causes a lot of lag, since you need 24 more mobs for each farm
You clearly don't play on an economy server where you sell iron for in-game money lol far from pointless...
@@Lateralus138 unless most things cost 1000 iron, being infinitely wealthy is pretty pointless. Especially since on a server, it runs 24/7, no? So if you were making only a few thousand an hour and you waited 2 days you'd still be unbelievably wealthy
This is really great because you aren't just telling us how to make a farm, you are telling us how the farm works and there isn't much content like this that really goes into different farm mechanics.
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this video is awesome man, a year later and still holds up! love this video format, super interesting!
man, this rigourous and mathematical approach to iron farming was so interesting and also solved the main issues I had with most iron farms, being that the sleep timers and spawn timers could overlap, really happy to see that I wasn't the only one being bothered by that
Incredible video
I love how the Minecraft community is not just incredibly creative but also teaches and showcases science. Playing Minecraft will get you smart. At least it did for me. 10 years ago the Minecraft community showed me logic gates at the age of 14, today I study computer science. 🥳
The fundamentals of logic are as close to constancy as you can get in a universe like ours. MC's rules of physics are a different reality, but they are consistent and have their own logic. I started in IT as a teacher. Make teaching part of your skill set - it almost guarantees you will continue to learn. Learn something new every day. I'm retired now, after 25 years in IT, and you're just coming into the field. Such fun you're going to have!
@@robindjw4539 That's true. Tutoring is very fun but unfortunately I mostly tutor maths. It's still nice, don't get me wrong but explaining programming languages or how Linux works would fullfil me more :D
Same! I would recommend trying scrap mechanics if you haven’t built a computer out of logic gates yet. It’s a great interface for low level computer engineering. I built a computer in it and I have plans to make a 3D renderer.
Love that you created a scientific breakdown of a MC farm. This is the kind of info and deep dive that I crave when I want to make any kind of farm. It's nice to understand a lot more than, "this farm gives 480 stacks an hour, go build it"
I second this!!! It’s so useful to know the deep mechanics behind the farm instead of simply the schematic as if there are any different variables like height, biome, material used, difficulty, etc. the farm’s output could be impacted. Knowing the different factors in spawning and the precise workings allows you tremendous freedom to adjust your design to exactly what you need! It’s a unique video in that respect and so I like to very much :)
Yeah same I am doing a challenge where I have to make all of the farms myself and this really helped
This is a pretty sick video! I love seeing the behind the scenes stuff like this!
Holy moly what a great video! This must have taken SO much work... I really enjoyed this!
This is very interesting and cool. Given I'm a bit tired of portal farms, it would be interesting to further explore other ways to get rid of golems. A shifting floor design like in witch hut farms could be cool
That is a cool idea. I'm going to have to play with it. Also, there is a strong case that for smaller scale farms in 1.19+ there is no reason to make a portal farm -- thinking aboutt making a small thing on this ;-)
look into downwards acceleration. that is the fastest way to make a golem fall out of detection area.
it gets complicated but that's the fun of it.
@@shaneminer15 do you mean something like a slime block launcher that is timed perfectly with golem spawn times? That's a cool farm idea
But that would not be stackable.
@@thexavier666 could be interesting for a single pod farm
Dude you have a bright future on UA-cam if you keep up this quality level. This video reminds me of gnembon and cubic metre both of which are some of the best technical channels ever
That's some really high praise I'm not sure I deserve, but much appreciated regardless :-]. Thanks!
@@NicoisLOST I am mid way watching this, wouldn't having multiple 2 block wide spawn platforms help? You basically lose 1-2 blocks for the area to which the golems fall into.
@@NicoisLOST subbed and excited to see if you get into other farm types. Though I would say you should maybe add a litematic or world download so people can build your stuff
@@NicoisLOST ever since gnembon was employed by mojang, we've been missing his technical videos A LOT. thank you for filling up that role and providing us with the niche information that we needed.
I was intrigued, but then it got really interesting, and I rewatched several parts as I went through. Thanks for sharing
Love the detailed analysis into factors affecting efficiency and exploring all possible solutions to fix them. Most players would just be satisfied with any iron generating farm, but this is the definition of do it once, do it well. Keep it up!!
This was unbelievably informative. I'm no longer a Minecraft nut obsessed with efficiency and crazy builds but I can still appreciate a unique take on design. I had never even thought to consider asking these questions the way you did Nico. I'm definitely going to be using your farm design for my next project in my hardcore world!
I really dislike and I'm not interested in Redstone and farms, but still your video caught me off-guard. It was really interesting, well explained and understandable for a newbie like me!
Thank you for your work and hope you do others videos like this
I have to admit you had me in the first half ;-). Thanks! Glad that you liked it, really appreciate the feedback!
21:10 A couple of weeks ago Docm made a speaker system to trigger every night on Hermitcraft. Because of the exact same problems you mentioned with daylight sensors, he used villagers going to sleep as a timer to trigger the system. As they go to sleep before the player can, this could potentially solve the player sleeping issue by using a separate villager not being scared going to sleep as the timer?
Great video. I don't play Minecraft much anymore but I saw that thumbnail and got intrigued. You do a great job of explaining things so they are easy to understand. Good job and keep them coming
Your video is EXACTLY what I was looking for. There's so many different ways of making an iron farm with very little information on why you're building it a certain way. You managed to explain it all perfectly. Great video :)
little information: it's 35 minutes long
@@ThreeTrees475 I assume they were talking about the plethora of iron farm videos out there that show you how to build iron farms, but generally contain very little information as to why you're building it that way. This video actually goes in to detail and helps to understand why any panic based iron farm is built the way it is. Probably not saying that this video was "little information" while being a 35 minute video.
I actually found a perfect solution for the daylight sensor thing: use a villager that isn't scared outside the farm and a pressure plate to detect when it is awake and thus when villagers can or can't sleep, which is perfectly reliable
I just started my new world and this was a really helpful video for me because I really wanted to design my own design for an iron farm. Thanks for using your own time to make this video.
Love these types of videos they help me design my own farms the way I want and for my own circumstances in the world. Keep it up.
I love that this guy doesn't assume I want the most efficient farm to ever grace this mortal coil. Sometimes I just want to throw something together that will run when I'm at my house. I need a design that fits my exact balance of easy & cheap building prosses, as well as a good yield, all without ruining my entire base's aesthetics. Thanks to this video, I know how to do that for any server I join!
This has so much detail put into it, I'm very impressed. You've done a great job with this video! I hope to see more of this caliber.
It is amazing how you have the mind to analyze the problems with physics that arre simulated and model the best option, you are amazing man.
This totally opened my mind to the sort of thinking that has to go into designing mob farms. Fantastic video dude!
This video is just amazing. The effort put into the editing and graphics plus the research itself is something so many other videos lack.
A very interesting and informational video, this is what every educational video should look like.
Thanks! Glad you liked it :-]
Outstanding! Your analytical, synthetical & explanatory skills are unmatched!
This is what I have been looking for, thanks for making this video.
Well, this is peak informative Minecraft content. You calmly explain concepts in a way that inexperienced players can digest easily. Its refreshing to see creators make passion projects like this, and I hope to see your channel grow in the future! :)
If you are worried about the farms to close together you could use a minecart hopper collection system to space them out while saving materials
not like you would not have enough materials with this farm...
Hoppers are very laggy in large quantities
@@grahamvanpelt6589Not mine cart hoppers. Because they can pick up items through blocks, you can have multiple running under the floor instead of a floor made completely with hoppers.
To? To what?
@@bwompI think you missed the point of his comment and the video
I liked, subbed and commented. Your dedication is amazing and well deserved for fame
Holy, your presentation and format is soo damn good. Your vocabulary and wording is akin to my uni lectures. Incredible
Amazing video, super comprehensive and explained in a perfectly simplified format that doesn't skip out on the depth of understanding. so much better than any other "how to" video
This channel is hella underrated. The effort you put in into this video is amazing. I'm definitely subscribing for how informative this is. And I will leave this comment here to boost the algorithm and get your video recommended to more people.
Great video dude, appreciate the mathematical insights to farm efficiency!
THANK YOU SO MUCH, its been sometime I have been a little hiperfocused on minecraft farms and i could NOT find anything about the golem spawn conditions and your video is answering EVERYTHING I had questions about, its like I'm seeing a lesson from that one very good teacher about the subject I love, this video is making me so happy and even though im bad at math it just seems I can understand the numbers you talk about so easily! amazing video! thank you so much!!
This guy came in strong with better course aims than my professors and then the quality only went up. 20/10 pog video excellent info and engaging the whole way through. New sub about to marathon the whole channel.
That’s honestly too impressive to be this underrated, it is so detailed and every info is on point, even tho I never made any farms in Minecraft whatsoever, I understood all the info crystal clear (although am a business/high-math student), but still, all the visuals, and narration, and overall quality is 11/10
This is a really cool idea and I want to comment to ensure that this video does well
Respect for the deep dive on all the machinations behind the scenes. Thanks for sharing your data 🙏
This was the most informative iron farm video i have ever watched. I’m seriously surprised at how underrated this channel is.
Just wow. As a relative newcomer to the game I was just copy/pasting other people's designs. Breaking down the numbers and why, just made it so much simpler for me to design my own farm in both nether and overworld. Great video, thanks!
i rarely interact with videos i watch but the work you put in this video is just wow... take my sub;) i'm surprised you only have that many, i hope your audience will grow soon
You are the rockstar dude ! Very nice video, love you math approach that is all I like and if you merge it with my favorite game it feels so good !!
Great video! This was really fun to watch!
It'a interesting that the least efficient farm was 66% efficient, which is higher than I'd figured. Its great to know that the iron farm i use isnt awful. :)
It's all about the quantity of pods instead of efficiency.
I have a 4 pod underground farms and it gives me quite more iron that I can handle
kris deltarune,,,,,
This video is amazing. The research, the editing and the presentation truly combine into this great piece of informative entertainment. Good job, keep going!
This is a really informative video on iron farms one of the best Ive seen! Thanks alot!
Super interesting! I appreciate all the effort you put into the topic. And now I know exactly how to build a farm that works for me.
Probably one of the best explanatory videos. I wish there was one like this for other things like creeper farm etc. amazing video. Liking, following for support!
not only do I love the design, I also love the physics calculation behind it. I haven't played minecraft in well over 10 years, but I always keep coming back to watch these videos
I love your videos and please continue to amaze me with every new video you upload.
I love information overload. Thanks for making this!
I haven’t commented on a UA-cam video in many years. However your efforts in making this video and covering so much information so comprehensively is highly impressive. Content like this is what creates a following. I personally hope to see more videos like this one, it’s truly very impressive 👌
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This is such an amazing video. It answers questions I've had for a long time. The information is very well presented, the structure is great, the objective is clear... even the music is great. Thanks!
I am only about half way through the video but I love this. Really good job on the visualizations and calcuations.
I was super invested, your storytelling and visual aids are mesmerizing.
i personally really loved the demonstrations/diagrams/charts. all very intuitive and easy to follow, keep it up!
31:15 THAT ONE TRAPDOOR
Edit: This is actually the best video I’ve seen on iron farms. Thanks for making it and keep up the good work!
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Great job, really appreciate the deep dive details
Super well made 👍, you've earned a sub my good man
I can tell you put a lot of effort into this, it’s super informative, keep it up!
fantastic video! loved the thorough breakdown of mechanics and splitting it all apart into very small parts (like we're often told to do with problems, but rarely shown how to do) excited to see more of these in the future if you're planning on doing them
btw for anyone else the command in carpet is /script load ai_tracker and then /ai_tracker villager iron_golem_spawning
This really helped with my understanding of iron farms really glad you made this video.
I love this video so much! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!!!
I absolutely love the inclusion of graphs and the mathematical models. It’s insane the amount of effort you’ve put into this video. Mad props
This seems like a bit too nerdy imo
This video was really well made, perfect for those that are wanting to get into designing and building iron farms. Loved the scientific approach. Keep up the good work!
Love any farm design/explanation videos. Now I can flex on my friends because I know how to make farms over-efficient
Commenting for your benefit, you put in an awesome amount of effort and detail.
We need videos like this for every automatic farm. Great work!!
So damn cool! I build simple iron farms, but realizing how slow it can be, and using your math calculations, in great detail, I’m planning on giving these farms a try!
Excellent video! Absolutely amazing!
Thanks for the detailed analysis of the iron farms
thank you for the detailed analysis!
When I saw the million iron i clicked on it immediately and i was expecting a tutorial but it was an explanation of how iron farm works and the technical bits about it.
When i watched it i was inspired to work on my own design of an iron farm instead of watching a video and after i build it in my world getting disappointed about the rates and not fulfilling my needs of iron. THANK YOU!!
Wow thanks for this comment. This is a huge reason why I decided to make videos in the first place, so it's nice to see it's having some positive impact :-]
真的很感謝這位專家
也恭喜影片在演算法中被推薦🎉
感謝說明
尤其是生成機制的部分
never thought I'd see a minecraft comment written in chinese before
YT's translation is really a good thing.
this is amazing. congratulations, my man.
Best iron farm video ive ever seen, fantastic work. You deserve way more subs
This video is such a gem, I'm a math nerd and love those kind of statistics and optimization strategy. The last farm looks really nice and the design is very clever !
I really loved the video and your attention to detail in the investigation. Congratulations!❤
Splendid, exactly what I was looking for
Awesome video I love these in depth technical explanations of Minecraft’s mechanics. Very well put together video and great explanation and editing. 👍
I’ve been on a break from the game for 2 years and coming back to it, this was the perfect refresher course/specific information update to watch after returning, thank you so much🙏🏻🤙
And the factorial clock was what was running through my mind as a potential fix to that timing issue, it was super clever and I’m glad you included it
Im an economy major specialising in modeling and statistics, and your method for solving this issue and showing inefficiencies really makes me want to play Minecraft again, thank you sir!
That was an amazing video man!!!! I Learned some great insights for my futur farms
Truly fascinating, thank you for all your hard work!