Which fuel is BEST for you with 1.21 Auto Crafters?

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  • @johnmillerpere_grin6371
    @johnmillerpere_grin6371 4 місяці тому +530

    I think the kelp smelter will be the first pick across the mc community. XP farm and self-fueling smelter in one. Not to mention it can be built anywhere.

    • @1994AustinSmith
      @1994AustinSmith 4 місяці тому +1

      Kelp would be my 3rd pick.

    • @daffydj
      @daffydj 4 місяці тому +55

      "Built anywhere"
      The Nether: 💀

    • @KM____________
      @KM____________ 4 місяці тому +12

      bamboo is much easier to build and expand though

    • @mardy3732
      @mardy3732 4 місяці тому +12

      ​@@KM____________Is it though? Kelp doesn't even need minecarts, just water streams.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG 4 місяці тому +9

      Also do not forget that the system is the most energy-dense, as you can store up top 69120 smelts per standard double chest, though you could multiply that even further via shulkers (but those aren't fun to build...), it is a 2700% multiplier btw

  • @Mr._Mythical
    @Mr._Mythical 4 місяці тому +116

    One thing to note, in Bedrock edition, slabs are worth the exact same as planks, making them amazing as early game fuel

  • @PerlStalker
    @PerlStalker 4 місяці тому +212

    Something else to consider: Bamboo has less waste when you're cooking less than the maximum number of items that a source can cook.

    • @glennanderson4624
      @glennanderson4624 4 місяці тому +25

      But it is fully wasted if you can’t get four into the furnace quick enough. You need the 4:1 ratio ahead of time.

    • @Gatrehs
      @Gatrehs 4 місяці тому

      I just put some redstone up to combat this,
      Trying to make it 1 wide sucks though.

    • @DavidStrchld
      @DavidStrchld 4 місяці тому

      Yes you need a bamboo input that exceeds your furnace burn rate or at least your item inputs @@glennanderson4624

    • @enolopanr9820
      @enolopanr9820 4 місяці тому +4

      You make a good point. It may be enough of an offset to even make crafting it into planks not worth it. But I think the bamboo planks are the easiest to get.
      Charcoal systems are more complex but they are great once you get them working. A 2x2 spruce tree farm that makes charcoal is awesome and smelting 8 items is perfect for large, high efficiency furnace arrays

    • @xavierpastro7730
      @xavierpastro7730 4 місяці тому +5

      The idea behind an auto fuel farm is to not have to worry about that.

  • @yeetdragon2413
    @yeetdragon2413 4 місяці тому +52

    Dried kelp as a fuel source is finally becoming relevant after 6 years and as a user of dried kelp, I approve.

    • @maridon2860
      @maridon2860 3 місяці тому

      its really not. its much worse than charcoal. kelp needs you to smelt 9 items to create 20 items worth of fuel but if I smelt 9 logs I would have 72 items worth of fuel and I dont need to craft it afterwards in the case of charcoal. but the actual best is coal. he is just wrong about it not being good.

    • @yeetdragon2413
      @yeetdragon2413 3 місяці тому +2

      while charcoal is more efficient its much harder to build an automatic farm for it kelp, but if you have the time then coal is definitely better

    • @KingKaho
      @KingKaho Місяць тому +1

      @@maridon2860 I dont think you watched the video. Its all about making an automatic fuel source.

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG 4 місяці тому +77

    20:09 and any way to automate TNT prod requires a duplication glitch, as sand would still be needed to be duped for said TNT. This may change in the future if we EVER got a method of intended sand prod

    • @justharmless2319
      @justharmless2319 4 місяці тому +2

      you can produce infinite lit tnt without a sand duplication glitch: there's a structure you can build with some slimeblocks and coral that when it is moved it produces an ignited tnt without removing the tnt block, so every time that the structure is moved another ignited tnt falls from it

    • @calebtietz
      @calebtietz 4 місяці тому +28

      @@justharmless2319 🤦‍♂ Their point was there is no way to automate TNT without some kind of duplication glitch

    • @foul-fortune-feline
      @foul-fortune-feline 4 місяці тому +4

      @@justharmless2319 OP: "Any way to automate TNT production requries a duplication glitch, because sand isn't renewable without duplication glitches either"
      You, very smart: "Well you don't need to duplicate sand. You could just use this tnt duplication glitch"

    • @Death-on1dq
      @Death-on1dq Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, the sand you can get from the wandering trader isn't enough to sustain the farm

  • @targetdreamer257
    @targetdreamer257 4 місяці тому +85

    The kelp farm and smelter really has the edge over every other one. It seems much easier to build in the early game. Easier to add to the system once it is built. It is self-sustaining. Plus it can store a huge amount of free XP if it just left to do it's thing.
    It also has the added bonus of giving you a free block to build with the extra fact it makes a block that can be converted to bonemeal.

    • @cheddartaco
      @cheddartaco 2 місяці тому +2

      don't forget you can eat it!

  • @peterlaird6060
    @peterlaird6060 4 місяці тому +20

    Having played on a SMP with an autocrafting mod for a while now, I can tell you a kelp block farm is a must-have. Besides the points in this video, a shulker box full of kelp blocks is incredibly energy-dense, considering the inventory space it takes up (a shulker box full of coal blocks is the only thing in the game that's more dense but coal blocks have all the drawbacks covered in the video). Portability is a nice option. Sometimes you want a small furnace array near your sorting system or a small mending system in your base. A single shulker box of kelp blocks will fuel these sorts of setups for a very long time, probably longer than you'll play in the world. Also, if you end up with excess (and you will) they can be traded for emeralds with butcher villagers.

  • @stretch7293
    @stretch7293 4 місяці тому +25

    Even though the azalea farm probably isn't the best choice, sometimes Minecraft isn't about being the most efficient. I think it's genuinely an incredibly cool and interesting farm, using the azalea and moss together all for one common goal and how so little goes to waste. If I had the chance to, I'd definitely go with it because it'd make my Minecraft experience the most fun.

  • @Mikemk_
    @Mikemk_ 4 місяці тому +58

    5:05 slabs are more efficient if you're smelting -an even number of items that's not a multiple of 3. Such as a stack.- a number one less than a multiple of 3.

    • @seriesredundancy
      @seriesredundancy 4 місяці тому +4

      ? Using 4 planks (as it’s a simple factor of 64 ie. the number that you presented), turning them into slabs would leave you with 6 slabs and 1 plank. Each slab has a 0.75 fuel time, which adds up to 4.5, then we’ll add the remaining plank (1.5ft) for a total of 6.0 fuel time.
      Smelting them as planks will be 4*1.5 fuel time or simply 6.0. _They’re the same._

    • @Mikemk_
      @Mikemk_ 4 місяці тому +11

      @@seriesredundancy 2 items. You can use 2 planks, wasting 1 item of smelting time, or 3 slabs, wasting 0.25 items of time

    • @seriesredundancy
      @seriesredundancy 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Mikemk_ Ah, I misread, yeah that makes sense.

  • @viniciusscalcon7532
    @viniciusscalcon7532 4 місяці тому +24

    Hello mr. Ray!
    You know why I'm here, and this times is just to thank you, from my experience I was able to to keep up with all the information on the video without feeling overwhelmed, due the change you did.
    Thanks a lot pal!
    glad to see you always improving! keep up the amazing work!

  • @ahmedhabib1112
    @ahmedhabib1112 4 місяці тому +7

    5:02 in bedrock edition, slabs smelt 1.5 items,so if you're in bedrock,you can use them to be double the efficiency

  • @matthewparker9276
    @matthewparker9276 4 місяці тому +11

    For an everyday smelter array bamboo is still the best choice, as its cheap, easy to set up and low waste. For a super smelter system where you smelt shulkers of material at a time, though, I think kelp blocks are a good choice, being dense fuel that is not too complicated or restrictive in its setup.

  • @DavidStrchld
    @DavidStrchld 4 місяці тому +14

    For me, totally automated bamboo is the best. Easy and cheap to build, and easy and cheap to expand and dependable. How you burn them (bamboo, sticks or planks) really doesn't matter much if you have enough input. They also don't have much if any waste as you burn just what you need. Other then that a lava collector is great when one does not want to build a automated farm. I find that 6 cauldrons are usually enough for lava on demand, and that allows me to smelt a few items (wasting the rest of the lava), whenever I want to. Additionally slabs are slightly better then planks as they burn with less waste (when items into the smelter run out and the fuel continues to burn). It's not much, but with the autocrafter it's easy to break them into slabs.

    • @Death-on1dq
      @Death-on1dq Місяць тому +1

      And the slabs are more efficient on bedrock

    • @lifeai1889
      @lifeai1889 Місяць тому

      The problem is there's still no dispenser codron interaction in vanilla so you need mod to build lava farm

  • @johndolenc7658
    @johndolenc7658 4 місяці тому +6

    Honorable mention to crossbow, bow, and fishing rod. The crossbow and bow are easily farmable, and are secondary to other items in farms. This means you can smelt things with them even though most people would just throw it away.

  • @cartridgeglitch7987
    @cartridgeglitch7987 4 місяці тому +3

    I once had an archipelago base called Simmer Isles dedicated to having a farm for EVERY farmable resource in the game. Everything. Built off a series of 3 different mob spawners, skeleton, zombie, and spider. Things were COOKING.

  • @TheSockDemon
    @TheSockDemon 4 місяці тому +24

    If you were to have the gamerule create new lava source on then the lava farm would be insanely compact and efficient.

  • @Spikeba11
    @Spikeba11 4 місяці тому +8

    Now I want to use wool from sheep for my next fuel source. Autocraft shears from an iron farm.
    I do like the kelp having EXP as a byproduct.

    • @lifeai1889
      @lifeai1889 Місяць тому

      Unless you use duplication glitch to make wool (which you can just dupe carpet) wool farm is allot less lag efficient compared to flying machine bamboo farm

  • @buzzy4227
    @buzzy4227 4 місяці тому +4

    One thing not discussed in this video is how most furnace arrays are only going to be smelting 1 or two items per furnace, so high powered items like kelp or coal are pretty trash for that unless you only smelt in batches of 8x/20x: where x= # of furnaces.
    This leaves planks, and carpet. If you allow duping I would go with carpet, if not, bamboo planks might not even work for you. If you have a really large high precision furnace array that only ever smelts 1 item per furnace, never more, using 9 bamboo for a plank isn’t worth it when 4 will do the job just fine. Otherwise smelt in batches of 3x because planks are only more efficient if you use 2 of them to smelt 3 items.

  • @mayonnaiseeee
    @mayonnaiseeee 4 місяці тому +5

    Excellent video, really thorough breakdown of smelting fuel. Not to mention every farm you showed us was unique and your own design. Kelp would get my vote because of the included xp.

  • @luigraskullheart
    @luigraskullheart 4 місяці тому +1

    This video was so entertaining even outside just how informative it was! Really well made! You really explained everything nice and clear and I learnt some facts I didn't know!

  • @LetsTalkAboutLifeForABit
    @LetsTalkAboutLifeForABit 4 місяці тому +1

    I already had a kelp xp farm on my world and adding the crafter to it was exactly what I needed to make the process that much easier for me.

  • @nemesissombria
    @nemesissombria 4 місяці тому +2

    Before going for a big smelters, I usually use like 3 or 4 small bamboo farms, but then I'll upgrade them to kelp when going for furnace stacks

  • @Hypnostedon
    @Hypnostedon 4 місяці тому +4

    Im in love with your videos
    Greetings from 🇬🇷

  • @justaguy6437
    @justaguy6437 2 місяці тому

    I had a friend that made a self sustaining auto smelter with kelp and it even produced excess dried kelp blocks. He made a giant kelp farm that fed into the auto smelter. The dried kelp was turned into blocks and fed into the furnaces and the excess went into a chest

  • @ravensshadow2179
    @ravensshadow2179 4 місяці тому +1

    I used Bamboo. I built it right above my super smelter for time when that's not enough fuel I had a manual lava farm right behind it to add more fuels.

  • @jasonmarbach7800
    @jasonmarbach7800 4 місяці тому +1

    Yeah I have a fully auto (from kelp farm to blocks, which then restock the farm indefinitely while producing tons of extra for use in other smelting) dried kelp block factory that pretty much blows everything else I’ve tried out of the water.

  • @deezbobcheken
    @deezbobcheken 4 місяці тому

    8:11 automatic string dupers exist which run the the background so consider those for a very cheap and early smelting source

  • @Death-on1dq
    @Death-on1dq Місяць тому +1

    In bedrock, slabs are the best in the wood section, smelting 1.5 items each, which is the same as the planks, but for half the price, 12 smelts per log, rather than the 7 smelts per log, and 1.33 per bamboo instead of 0.66 per bamboo. Now, using a 0 tick farm, you don't need fuel efficiency.

  • @lowenevvan8619
    @lowenevvan8619 4 місяці тому +1

    Slabs do have one thing over planks. They're more fuel efficient in smaller batches. Planks and Slabs are most efficient in batches of 3, but slabs waste less when you have a batch thats a multiple of 3 minus 1.
    Problem is this has flat impact and is inconsequential in bulk smelting or ontaining via tree farms

  • @alexandratsankova5825
    @alexandratsankova5825 4 місяці тому +1

    There's another way to make a tree farm automatic, by using a wither as the block destroyer instead of a tnt duper,
    or possibly a creeper farm, where the creeper is agroo'd by a golem and the creeper explosion is used to destroy trees (no clue how possible, easy it would be to make)

  • @iamwhatitorture6072
    @iamwhatitorture6072 4 місяці тому +3

    I wouldn't outright eliminate all mobfarms and rather make them another category.
    Minor note: you *could* make wood farms work without TNT, either by using creepers or a wither, even though neither would be a contender.
    I actually made a cobblestone farm with a wither before, but for some reason it glitched out (might have been something with the server, since it worked for quite a while) and that was a whole mess. And setting it up in general is rather stressful, so certainly not for everyone, but it's true survival without cheats and fully automated.

    • @1994AustinSmith
      @1994AustinSmith 4 місяці тому +1

      Agreed. I would, personally, eliminate dupers though.

    • @iamwhatitorture6072
      @iamwhatitorture6072 4 місяці тому

      @@1994AustinSmith I think you can leave them in there for completeness, I just wouldn't use them

    • @1994AustinSmith
      @1994AustinSmith 4 місяці тому +1

      Glitch farms, mob farms, and crop farms.
      Full-auto, manual.
      So many categories.

    • @rafaelvasallo7892
      @rafaelvasallo7892 4 місяці тому +1

      I completely forgot The wither 😅 , that a great idea and I am one of those people who would like to do something with the mob

    • @jacksonpercy8044
      @jacksonpercy8044 4 місяці тому

      I remember ghasts used to be used for breaking logs in tree farms. Does that still work? And if so why isn't it really a thing anymore?

  • @jarrod752
    @jarrod752 Місяць тому

    I didn't know converting Bamboo into blocks then planks got you more fuel, but I always liked bamboo farms for their simplicity. I always had fuel backed up into my system, and it worked well. It's still my preferred farm when I just want an unlimited fuel source I can set and forget. That was, of course, pre auto crafter.

  • @barbsfpv3066
    @barbsfpv3066 4 місяці тому +1

    I use carpet duping on my super smelter.
    It’s cheap (free) and since it takes multiple carpets per item, overall fuel efficiency is great since you can run any size batch through the smelter and not waste fuel.
    That was my biggest issue with prior furnace arrays, having to run items through in efficiently sized batches to get the most out of the fuel in it.
    Now I don’t even have to think about it, just toss it in.

  • @christophtoifl6848
    @christophtoifl6848 4 місяці тому +1

    What is the best kinda depends how much fuel you need and what infrastructure you have or soon will build.
    For small amounts, a few Lava Buckets, Wool Farm or a small Bamboo, Kelp Farm.
    For medium amounts, if you have a surpluss of bonemeal, the small bamboo farm is all you need, or if you have a blaze farm, wither farm or fortress farm that should be enough. AFK for a few
    hours, you will have all the fuel you will need.
    Only if you need a really huge amount of fuel, then a big bamboo/kelp farm is worth the time and effort to build it. Which for most casual players won't be the case ...

  • @garydemonic
    @garydemonic 4 місяці тому +1

    100% bamboo farm. because not only is the bamboo amazing as a fuel source, it's also usable to make pretty much any standard shape in the game. along with it being able to grow regardless of conditions. it doesn't require water to grow, and the painstaking process of dicking around with water source blocks. meaning it can be put in the nether. the farm can be made small to start and expanded upon over time, making it ideal for challenges that are based on a timed number of days. aside from the ugly color of the bamboo shapes, it's hands down the most OP block in the game outside of the crafting bench.

  • @alexandreaanderson514
    @alexandreaanderson514 4 місяці тому +1

    Kelp cause its versatility and cause dried kelp blocks are also a awesome fuel source if you have a lot of them. I dare say even better than lava if you get enough of them.

  • @krloz7493
    @krloz7493 2 місяці тому

    this is like the budokai tenkaichi of fuel sources, amazing!

  • @dannyc7839
    @dannyc7839 4 місяці тому +1

    For simplicity in survival I will probably feed a kelp smelter with bamboo. Although kelp is way usually easier to find right away

  • @xanderlastname3281
    @xanderlastname3281 4 місяці тому +1

    Ever since ive learned that carpets can be used as fuel, and also that carpet dupers are easy to build, theve been my goto fuel source for everything

  • @kevinz241
    @kevinz241 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm using carpet duper for smelting items. I usually use tnt dupers for mining so I just used the carpet duper. Relatively same.

  • @AtomicSniper22
    @AtomicSniper22 3 місяці тому

    Ive had a dry kelp block farm and auto smelter combo for years

  • @silasclausen8297
    @silasclausen8297 4 місяці тому +3

    Would be cool to see a nether only vid for ppl challenging themselves living in the nether

  • @MagyarAdam15
    @MagyarAdam15 17 днів тому

    I have the auto crafter experimental feature activated. This week I built a kelp farm+auto smelter. In my test world it provided enough Kelp to run 48 blast furnaces. But in my main world it was enough only for 37. I watched this video and found out the random tick distance is 8 chunks from the player spherical. So 3 chunks were never random ticked for me. It's suck to found out this way, but thank you Ray.

  • @namedauuid
    @namedauuid Місяць тому +1

    My top pick: carpets. They are easy to duplicate, and therefore free.

  • @0Ninja0Dude0
    @0Ninja0Dude0 Місяць тому

    We have dispensers hoppers and droppers but Id like to propose a new block the plopper, it can place one block upon receiving a redstone signal. There would be 2 variants one made from terracotta that's movable and one made from glazed terracotta that is immovable. Auto farms and road building flying machines would see an industrial revolution

  • @johnd6980
    @johnd6980 4 місяці тому +1

    Bamboo slabs would be my go-to i think

  • @glennanderson4624
    @glennanderson4624 4 місяці тому +2

    The more furnaces in your smelter-I have 128- the more you have to worry about wasted fuel. If you start burning a kelp block, but don’t have 128 x 20 items to smelt, all that extra potential is wasted. This is why I use planks, it will have the smallest waste. Now that I’ll be able to auto craft from bamboo, world domination is assured.

    • @KM____________
      @KM____________ 4 місяці тому

      thats because u use distributed fuel system,
      If you use shulker box systems its exact

    • @glennanderson4624
      @glennanderson4624 4 місяці тому

      @@KM____________ that doesn’t really address the issue. If have 128 furnaces, and only 256 items to smelt, that’s 2300 potential items I could have smelted, but didn’t. That’s just wasted fuel.

    • @KM____________
      @KM____________ 4 місяці тому

      @@glennanderson4624 Im not arguing with u- I agree. Simply mentioning, (in case you didnt know) that undistributed systems dont have that issue because when u are smelting by the shulker and inputing fuel by the shulker, one box of kelp blocks will always smelt 20 boxes of input without waste.

    • @glennanderson4624
      @glennanderson4624 4 місяці тому

      @@KM____________ gotcha. Agreed.

  • @FrankOnline007
    @FrankOnline007 4 місяці тому +1

    Bamboo all the way for me. It was usable even before the crafter so i already have it. Plus works in the nether

  • @Thejigholeman
    @Thejigholeman 4 місяці тому +2

    Carpet duper: relies on a glitch that may be patched
    azalea: relies on a complicated farm
    bamboo: easy to make/tile farm (1 bamboo, 2 dirt, 1 piston, 1 observer, 1 redstone dust) (not as efficient as the flying machine, but much easier to make since you don't need to find slimeballs)
    Kelp: easy to grow, easy to tile, the easiest farm looks basically the same as the simpl bamboo farm (pistons, etc), but with an extra space between the kelps so you can place a water block for a regenerating infinite water source ( i think the piston "breaks" the water block, which turns it from a source block into a running water block, and i don't think kelp can grow up running water, but im not sure)

    • @hanifarroisimukhlis5989
      @hanifarroisimukhlis5989 4 місяці тому +1

      Kelp do grow on flowing water. That's why kelp farm has to be taller than the maximum kelp height.

  • @all_night_long_
    @all_night_long_ 4 місяці тому +1

    I've been playing minecraft since mid 2015, and I never knew that wool could be used to smelt anything.
    *This is crazy*

  • @kronkumshitface5366
    @kronkumshitface5366 4 місяці тому +1

    I think either the wood or carpet farms would end up being the best, because the carpet farm is so easy to build, and you definitely need to be running the wood farm anyway. it's not like fuel is a wood farm's only purpose, and its other byproducts are super important to thr point where you'd definitely prioritize having the farm anyway.

  • @ZappyRedstone
    @ZappyRedstone 4 місяці тому +1

    5:10 I have a question whenever you do smaller amounts of smelting wooden and item that smells less be more useful so it doesn't use up an entire plank. For some reason I had always thought that the slabs were best

  • @Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo
    @Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo 4 місяці тому +1

    So for my worlds, something I offten do is (in lue of mods to force such) I RP that I am in some way tied to the sea, I.E. I need to be near a body of water with, preferably, access to an ocean. And given that, the kep farm would not only be the moat efficient, but the moat convient and thematically consistent.

  • @Apersonl0l
    @Apersonl0l 4 місяці тому +3

    The best fuel is you baby cus you burn so bright and stay hot for so long

  • @habakukduck
    @habakukduck 4 місяці тому +1

    Guessed right, interesting!

  • @abyssaljam441
    @abyssaljam441 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm going to use bamboo. Its a lot easier to scale up without needed water, and the advantage of kelp only comes in at a scale I rarely operate at.

    • @CLOCK-WORK
      @CLOCK-WORK 2 місяці тому

      1 bamboo plank can only smelt 1.5 blocks vs 1 kelp block witch is 20 blocks also it takes more time for you to get a bamboo block vs just getting a kelp block and by the time you get 10 bamboo blocks witch smelts 20 per 10 block you would already have 3x kelp blocks witch smelt more

  • @ToxcsmWolf
    @ToxcsmWolf 4 місяці тому +1

    For me the Kelp is the Way to go. It has most smeltable items in small space, need no duplication, provide extra XP (and you could also eat it, but then you could also eat melons^^). And finally you could Trade the excess kelpblocks to villagers an/or could use them to smelt cactus from a cactus farm for even more XP.

  • @KM____________
    @KM____________ 4 місяці тому +1

    thanks for the breakdown,
    Will probably go for bamboo as kelp seems too much effort and dupers arent allowed for me.
    I have a cool trick for bamboo farms btw lol:
    if you space the bamboo out in single rows above water stream, the flying machine will knock at least half into the water, okay yeah thats a big waste- but remember its just bamboo.
    u can simplify the redstone down to one hopper plus flying machine this way.
    Maybe its not that cool but its been cooking cactus for me for over a year straight 8)

    • @DavidStrchld
      @DavidStrchld 4 місяці тому

      yes Ive tried kelp and found that it's a pain to set up, while bamboo is much easier to work with and can easily be made very large, and more importantly is it fairly easy to expand.

  • @delavanty
    @delavanty 4 місяці тому +1

    Chunk loaders should work to keep the nether area working if you work around a neither portal

  • @donutstudios6353
    @donutstudios6353 3 місяці тому

    For the bamboo farm design, instead of putting Hopper Minecarts underneath, you can use mud blocks and hoppers directly underneath the mud to save the hassle

  • @penguinstadium752
    @penguinstadium752 4 місяці тому +3

    Obviously the best fuel source would be your bowl farm.

  • @modmaniamadness713
    @modmaniamadness713 3 місяці тому +1

    Okay, so; Lava, until Greater Redstone Capacity (Redstone farm/dupe), as of which I'll use Bamboo Planks, until I can make a Kelp farm. Got it.

  • @Lesniak17
    @Lesniak17 3 місяці тому

    Not using autocrafters yet, I'm still a big fan of Bamboo. I know it is not very efficient type of fuel, but it all depends how configured. I have a bamboo farm connected to my 64-furnaces smelter. It keeps farming until all furnaces are fully filled with Bamboo. The smelter is ready for use anytime :)

  • @grutarg2938
    @grutarg2938 4 місяці тому +1

    I like kelp because it’s easy to farm manually so you can use it from the very early game, and upgrade as you progress.

    • @lukeandliz
      @lukeandliz 4 місяці тому +1

      Plus XP makes it even more of a no brainer

  • @ICountFrom0
    @ICountFrom0 4 місяці тому +1

    I remember when making scaffolds was good to burn, as you got more fuel. Those were the days.

  • @dannypipewrench533
    @dannypipewrench533 4 місяці тому

    Something that you did not mention is the zero tick kelp farm. It is obviously an exploit, but I do not mind because it gives me all the fuel I could ever want. It has also turned into a fun redstone automation project for me. So, I declare kelp the best fuel.

  • @heavenlighting6353
    @heavenlighting6353 2 місяці тому +1

    To be honest carpet duper is just the best its small simple and can be made anywhere just perfect

  • @michaelgilding6531
    @michaelgilding6531 4 місяці тому +3

    I think the best fuel is the dried kelp block. Just set a kelp farm and let super smelter smelt it and then let the auto crafter make the blocks.

    • @darkduckpl9620
      @darkduckpl9620 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@TonyMarker98075lava isnt. You get only one bucket in a stack. It would be better to have a stack of dried kelp than just one bucket.
      For coal you need to be very late in game and build a wither skeleton farm, transport coal to the overworld and craft it. I dont think its best option, too much work
      Dried kelp requres some redstone and furnaces but farm can be made earlygame, is easy to build and has ok smelting time. Also you get free xp since furnace that dries the kelp works too.
      Kelp is better.

    • @michaelgilding6531
      @michaelgilding6531 4 місяці тому

      @TonyMarker98075 I would use lava in a blast furnace set up.

    • @DavidStrchld
      @DavidStrchld 4 місяці тому

      Lava and kelp blocks are not idea when you have a small amount items to smelt and can be quite wasteful.

  • @beans197
    @beans197 2 дні тому +1

    carpet duper supremacy

  • @danielrhouck
    @danielrhouck 4 місяці тому +3

    Re: some things you said about wool: I don’t think it’s that difficult to get a productive wool farm, but carpets are slightly better than wool even if wool is cheap and you don’t like duping, and banners are worse per wool block than the wool itself, so I agree with your conclusions.
    [comment removed; I had not meant to hit send yet and it’s addressed later in the video]
    Similarly to the wool, I think you shouldn’t discount coal and blaze rods so early; you recently ended up using coal in the beacon farm because you already needed to be farming wither skeletons.

    • @Kibblesdoesathing
      @Kibblesdoesathing 4 місяці тому

      I see your point about coal and blaze rods, but there's one problem; the only real reason he used it is because he needs beacons, and most people don't grind so many wither skeleton skulls that they would need a farm. It's good for convinence, yes, but if you don't need them you would have to go out of your way to sit there in the nether. I do think it could definitely be valid with a gold farm, getting both at the same time, the only problem is having both lowers efficiency

  • @rothgang
    @rothgang 4 місяці тому +2

    Instead of leaves dropping both saplings and sticks, they should go back to dropping only saplings and have saplings craftable into sticks

  • @SF124-gy7hk
    @SF124-gy7hk 4 місяці тому +1

    Bamboo planks is what I'd choose. Zero contest.

  • @phrebh
    @phrebh 4 місяці тому

    In Bedrock, we still get 1.5 items smelted for slabs, so take that into account when you're deciding.

  • @ryudheva866
    @ryudheva866 4 місяці тому +1

    Can you try making slime farms which are easy to make, it’s really difficult to find slime balls

  • @1994AustinSmith
    @1994AustinSmith 4 місяці тому +2

    Imma just drop some numbers here from my own research.
    Kelp block = (20 - 9 smelts to process) / 9 pieces = net 1.222... per piece
    Bamboo grows twice as fast as kelp, and most efficient form being 2 planks with 3 smelts total. 2 planks / 9 bamboo = 0.333... per piece. That's less than kelp for your time, but tileable and less potential waste.
    Charcoal = 8 - 1 = net 7. While I don't believe it can be fully automated, a giant jungle tree can grow naturally, be harvested with a stone axe and replanted, and a stack cooked in a 1 self-refueling auto-furnace faster than a 1 self-kelp-fueled auto-smoker with infinite kelp could produce the equivalent.
    Depends on use case though. Bamboo tileable for an array, kelp blocks for a high-density (I recommed cooking the kelp with bamboo,) charcoal for the more "cozy burrow" vibe and don't mind lumberjacking.

  • @s8nwulf
    @s8nwulf 4 місяці тому +3

    Blaze farm with a trident killer. Then a add just a bunch of hoppers and furnaces. Way easier than making all that for an azalea fuel farm in my opinion and works for me 👍

    • @MidnyteSketch
      @MidnyteSketch 4 місяці тому +1

      Pretty sure the trident thing is Bedrock only, isn't it?

    • @Landjrin
      @Landjrin 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@MidnyteSketchCouldn't you just use Wither Roses anyways?

    • @s8nwulf
      @s8nwulf 4 місяці тому

      @@MidnyteSketch yeah I would recommend just using sweeping edge

    • @s8nwulf
      @s8nwulf 4 місяці тому

      @@Landjrin and you could use powder snow if you want to afk it

    • @jamed6554
      @jamed6554 4 місяці тому

      Still need to be in the 15 Block radius of the spawner

  • @sampfrost
    @sampfrost 4 місяці тому +1

    my guess would be kelp since one block can get you 2 and a bit blocks of kelp

  • @zachellis1902
    @zachellis1902 Місяць тому

    I am going to stick with my lava buckets. I store items to smelt until I have a double chest full then release it all through the system at once. It takes me 20 seconds to replenish lava from cauldrons after and it is ready to go again.

  • @silaskjrsgaard5394
    @silaskjrsgaard5394 4 місяці тому +3

    Instead of simply looking at the smelt/hr, how about taking a look more into smelts/mspt, for example, when showing the kelp, bamboo or, to a lesser degree the bonemeal farm in the video, the game visually lags, that might just be client side, but can't imagine the server is to happy with it either

    • @jacksonpercy8044
      @jacksonpercy8044 4 місяці тому

      Glad I'm not the only person who was thinking about lag throughout the video. It's funny seeing the bamboo and kelp farms be called the best when they're hindering gameplay that much. People on weaker PCs might want to use the carpet duping method just for the fact that it won't impact their game nearly as much as the other methods..

  • @gaier19
    @gaier19 4 місяці тому +1

    I dont know how much sticks per hour a witch farm is producing but sticks to ladders and you still got all the other loot!

  • @TizonaAmanthia
    @TizonaAmanthia 4 місяці тому +1

    I think I'm gonna vote for the kelp farm. *sagenod*

  • @kronkumshitface5366
    @kronkumshitface5366 4 місяці тому

    i feel like it's worth mentioning that many of these farms that need a player can be automated with a chunk loader, right?

  • @NotKnafo
    @NotKnafo 4 місяці тому +2

    how about building auto smelter in nodecore?

  • @Fgfoxy
    @Fgfoxy 4 місяці тому

    have you considered making a chunk loader?

  • @EighteenCharacters
    @EighteenCharacters 4 місяці тому

    Can duping falling entities be duped through gateways? Sometimes they're just "around" in the end cities and bring you back to the end platform... Couldn't you just dupe blast some sand into a tight space into the gateway?

  • @Jediwhoever1
    @Jediwhoever1 4 місяці тому +1

    I want to see a infinite wooden sword fuel source farm using autocrafter. You would need a tnt duper wood farm with a item sorter and (at least depending on the speed of the auto crafter you will probably need more I don’t know enough about the autocrafter to say the exact amount needed)3 autocrafter for planks and sticks and the wooden sword.

  • @TheRealHelvetica
    @TheRealHelvetica 4 місяці тому +1

    For me the best fuel is still carpets because of the carpet duping bug.
    Like sure it’s not efficient at all but you don’t need to be efficient when you have infinity.

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG 4 місяці тому

    25:57 small warning, flying machines typically are banned on servers

  • @Bunkiiiiii
    @Bunkiiiiii Місяць тому

    I think a big lava farm isn't that bad, you don't really have to afk at it as long as it's loaded in your base, you just need from time to time to get in the Minecraft and let it ride you around while you go get a snack or something

  • @atom7264
    @atom7264 4 місяці тому +1

    What about witch farm for sticks to ladders

  • @r.carter8378
    @r.carter8378 4 місяці тому +1

    Drip stone and cauldron lava farm… lots of lava buckets and GTG

  • @S4ndedude
    @S4ndedude 4 місяці тому +2

    You need more likes

  • @kaioh16
    @kaioh16 4 місяці тому

    Bamboo - Sticks - Ladders is actually more efficient, 3 ladders =4,5 smelted for 7 sticks, or 14 bamboo. 14 bamboo or 7 sticks give 3.5 items so the 4.5 from ladders is more efficient per bamboo input

  • @manuel_bing_chilling
    @manuel_bing_chilling 4 місяці тому +1

    If you use a 2x2 lava source and enable the gamerule for it lava is the best

    • @Piktro
      @Piktro 4 місяці тому

      To each their own, but turning on the lava converts to source block option is equivalent to entering creative mode for many people.

  • @martinzachry2121
    @martinzachry2121 4 місяці тому +2

    What’s the lag difference of carpet duper vs bamboo with flying machines and minecarts?

    • @arifhossain9751
      @arifhossain9751 4 місяці тому +1

      Bamboo farm is potentially 0 lag cos it can just be put in spawnchunks or chunkloaded through the nether and you can just leave em running while you're far away. Carpet needs you to physically be in loaded chunks.
      Edit: i was wrong about the carpet duper. So basically, both have technically 0 lag cos spawnchunks

    • @spinz5937
      @spinz5937 4 місяці тому

      @@arifhossain9751Other way around. Bamboo needs the player to be near, carpet can be anywhere in loaded chunks

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG 4 місяці тому +1

    15:34 540 items (9 * 6 slots * 100 items per slot) per double chest p much, which isn't as good as the kelp, which can smelt 1280 items per SLOT (20 items * 64 stack size), which equates to 69120 items per double chest (1280 items/stack * 54 chest slots)

    • @babelworks752
      @babelworks752 4 місяці тому

      9x6x100 is 5400 not 540
      But your point is still valid

  • @Tomeroche
    @Tomeroche 4 місяці тому

    Still gotta be coal and coal block. It doesn't require that much redstone, the biggest time investment is just mobproofing it which isn't very intesive if you find a good location which isn't that hard. It compacts to Coal Blocks for maximum efficiency. And no mater the farm it's still requires the player in the area so you can't just leave it at spawn to passively produce produce while you're away. Besides, the skeletons have great drops and they produce such a ridiculous quantity that unless you need to be running the smelter for days you probably aren't going to run out from a trip or two.
    Lets also not forget that any kelp farm that can produce enough to compete would be a lag machine as well, it's not something you want in your base so you'd only have it in an area you will only visit when you want to smelt, in which case just going to the skeleton farm and grabbing a shulker or two of coal is by far the better option.

  • @ezekielzoro
    @ezekielzoro 4 місяці тому +1

    When did the cold block get changed from 75 to 80

  • @mr.cauliflower3536
    @mr.cauliflower3536 4 місяці тому +2

    To be fair ladders are the best use of sticks there is.