MacBook Pro 13 A1708 2017 (flexgate repair) no backlight at 90 degree angle
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2022
- The "factory defect" that is very common in the A1707, A1708, and A1706 is when you open the LCD more than 90 degrees, the backlight stops working and you would think that the LCD is not working.
This video shows you how to fix this issue and how to diagnose it.
The flex cable, you can check out here:
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Polytetrafluoroethylene Tape:
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You can send your device for this or any other repair.
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This is the first time I've seen someone do this repair professionally. Well done.
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us
Excellent presentation. Thank you so much
It is an insane level of repair.
Really nice work not meny repair shops can do this they just put a new display on. 😍😍
Nice work iTouch! This is the exact problem i have on Mac 13 Pro
This is a GREAT repair video. Thank you very much.
Merci beaucoup pour ce tuto qui m'a été d'une grande aide pour réparer mon flexgate sur mon macbook pro 13" 👍
Very impressed
great job bro
Друг, это превосходно, ты мастер!
Thank you very much for this video! It's been one the most difficult repairs I have ever done, but I succeeded thanks to this video. It's very important to have a good quality microscope, patience and skills to do this repair.
Yeah, totally. I’d love to know a good microscope like that to try On some a1707 that I have lying around. Always good to learn something new
very enjoyed the video nice job too well done 👍
From Morocco, Excellent Work 🎉
Nice job.
Mucha excelencia en el trabajo, el uso de las herramientas, la forma de empleo de los materiales, un placer ver el vídeo 10 puntos 👍
Thank you so much youve been so helpfull, nobody wanted to take the risk to fix my laptop, you explained it very well im gonna fix it myself
Hey there - just wondering how did you get on? Thinking of doing this myself, have dabbled with iphone fixes before but this one looks pretty tricky!
Thank you so much! I so happy that it is possible to fix it without $600 stupid replacement.
Very nice work I want learn work like this I am from India thanks sir for this video 👍
You’ve earned my respect. The super glue had never come to my mind before. #salute
Yup outside of the box idea 😇
yap me too! i quickly clicked SUBSCRIBE the moment he showed the super glue trick!
That part scared me. I remember trying to solder around superglue when i was younger. The fumes are from another planet!
This are common problem with Macbook Pro’s 2016, 2017,2018 and even up to 2019. Apple only covers free repair program on 2016 only, yet even the 2017-2019 have exact symptoms they won’t fix it under their repair program. I wish you live nearby as I have at least 3 macbooks with this issue. Excellent job on the repair!
Good brother.i do it
Wonderfull video, wish you can explain little bit more of the gluing and the materials of covering the necked cable. over all great
Thanks, the glue is a simple super glue you can get in a hardware store (not epoxy).
The masking material is a UV mask you can find on aliexpress or eBay.
@13:00 Wow what type of reinforced tape is that? Oh, right, it's Polytetrafluoroethylene. In the description. Thanks!
Hey @iTouch, thank you for making all these great videos.
Did you ever fix the LCD ribbon cable on a A1706? Mine is broken and I can't find someone who is willing to repair it for me 😭
Hi, contact me on social media.
Contacts in the description
hello!!
Is posible to replace under repair?¿
Great fix! Do you think I could do that myself with some magnifier glasses? Or is it a MUST to have some microscope? What did you use to see what you were doing and record at the same time? THANKS IN ADVANCE!
Hi, all of the work was done under the microscope and recorded with a camera that is attached to the third eye in the microscope (trinocular microscope)
Back in the days before I could afford microscopes I used to solder under two magnifying glasses, but it was tough to work like that.
And in this flex cable the rails are very small that even if you could solder under the magnifying glass you need a very thin soldering head.
I would say it’s always fun to try new things. I know I did and it got me where I am now.))
Thanks for that question....been wanting to ask that too
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Nice and detail tutorial. I am a newbie on this things.
I still don't understand why don't you just replace the broken flex cable with the new one since you have it.
Hi, thanks.
I already explained this in the comments for some one else, the flex cable for the backlight goes under the LCD and to remove it you need to remove the very delicate thin LCD and try not to damage it with over heating, so I think this is the best way to fix it.
Regardless of that, as I explained that the flex is short and that’s what causes the problem, and by doing this method I am adding more length to prevent this issue in the future.
Hello i have also this problem on MacBook and i want ask what tools you use to fix your MacBook. You can write me what tools i need to buy for fixing my MacBook? Thanks!!!
MacBook owners who have this issue should all bring their laptops to the Apple store and demand that they repair them under warranty.
If you bought it in 2016, they won’t fix it, look at the details on the program page for this issue, 2016 models won’t qualify anymore
this happens in new macbook air too
What's the name of that tape you use at the end?
Where are you located? I have 2020 M1 Macbook pro with same issue. Flex cable is dented.
I have the same issue with my Macbook and I really need to fix it too.
Hello, message me on Facebook .
Great job, very professional
quick question, did you use a stripper to remove the plastic protection? THANKS :)
Hi, it’s a scalpel that you can buy at any painting shop
Thanks a lot :)
Great video, congrats!
Just a question, did you make the contact points here with pieces of solder wire? 10:57
Thanks.
I add solder to the copper rails so I can solder the wires on them.
Thanks for the answer. To melt the solder paste, do you use a heat gun? Can I get it any other way?
Great video, great repair. I definitely don't have the skill or confidence to try it on my own tho 😂
Might just buy a new MacBook air and call it a day
thats what i did lmao, just sold my old one for parts
Very nice work.
Have to ask, how come you choose this method over replacing full cable?
Well, I would love to replace the full cable but, you see the cable if you saw the disassembly of the screen the backlight cable goes under the screen and in order to get to it you need to remove the LCD matrix from the case and not damage it and then you can replace the full cable.
See it’s very easy so I though to my self why go the easy route, let’s make this interesting and do this instead.
@@iTouch-repair Thank you for replying, that makes a lot of sense. I saw the replacement cable and the other end I thought would of made it an easier job. Now I know if I have to do this to do this method. Thanks.
How much would it cost in total to do this if I don't have any equipment?
What is the minimum cost of repair
What product do you apply just before soldering? Thanks for sharing this!
Hello, it’s flux. It helps with the soldering but, his job is to remove the oxidization from the solder and helps improve wetting between the two surfaces. This provides electrical contact and enhances the strength of solder joints.
why you put wire instead of solder directly or connected the cable with silver directly??? thx for the great video and explaination
Hang on a sec i didn't realise that half way through you need the smallest screwdriver in the world. In 5 more years i'll need a microscope just to find the screwdriver! So. i could only do what i could without that screwdriver. I found a fold / crease in one of the cables but i couldn't actually see a break even with the microscope. I tinned across this area with solder but no jumpers, it was one of the wider of the 4 cables. I think the other side also needs doing but i wanted to get the display off to take a better look. I only had a Stanly blade (box cutter blade).
After trying this one cable i put a strip of sellotape over the area and put it all back together. I usually use an external monitor, i bought the 15" touchbar this way to save money. Problem is doing osx updates. When you get to the next step you can not use external monitor!
Anyway. It's stopped flickering and now only one big strip centre left not working but before i couldn't read the screen at all, sometimes i could see a bit of it between the flickering but not really and not often. Now i can read most of it. I'll have to get the tiniest screwdriver in the world and try again to fix the last part of the screen / cables.
I was surprised how strong the flex cable was considering i only had an old box cutter blade! Nice!
Hi there, nice work, but what about the other cable? I was given a Macbook with both flex cables damaged. The wires are different and much finer, and more densely packed; hence more difficult to solder jumper wires. After much thought, I am thinking to bridge the 2 pieces with another piece face down on top. However, after market cables are not a perfect match.
Hi, the other cable is for camera and flood illuminator, and they don’t always need fixing.
Great video, I might give it a go ! But just one question, why don't you just replace the cables instead of soldering ? Thanks
Thanks.
The go underneath the screen and the backlight, so it’s impossible to do such a repair without damaging the LCD.
@@iTouch-repair Great job! I have another question, why didn't you repair the broken cable directly instead of using another cable to fix it? Thanks
@@John_Anno stay tuned for the explanation on my UA-cam channel.
Today will drop a video about this issue.
@@iTouch-repair OK！
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Hi, what kind of jumper wire do you use? and which solder iron you have? That is very tiny.. i used 0,1mm wire, but looks 3times thicker. Middle 8 wires are straight forward... the ones on the side i dont understand. Looks like there are two more lines on the left and two on the right, where you connected the middle line... what is that, ground?
Hi,
you can use a jumper wire from a speaker coil.
or you can go online and search for a jumper wire for microsoldering.
the thickness should be around 0.010 0.030mm
the lines on the sides are ground so you will need just one will be enough.
the thicker rails on the flex should be jumpered with thicker jumper wire because they are power rails.
Could you tell me what gauge wire tinned copper for the 6 small and other power and ground. Also what type solder and tip and temp. Thank you thanks again. Steve
hello, regarding the wires, you can use the coil from an old phone speaker, they usually come smaller that's why I wrote speaker phone.
regarding the solder and the other soldering equipment, you need to find the most suitable for you.
hi what material you put on to cover wires the name of it, and what gauge of wire you use? please reply
Hi, the material that I put on the wires is called a PCB UV mask.
The gauge of the wire is 40 AWG Remington.
bro, what super glue to use? Do I need any other tools than the screws and replacement parts? Thanks alot!
Hi, yes, you need a soldering station and a microscope so you can preform this repair accurately.
There is only 1 FlexCable for Backlight. the other flexcable is for camera and light sensor
Good afternoon. Please tell me what kind of wire you make jumpers to connect the contacts of the loop. Thank you.
Hi, you can use the wire from a speaker coil that will work.
You need to pay attention to the thickness.
What is the green thing you applied after soldering? Thanks
Hi, it’s called a UV mask.
where do I find someone near me who can do this? While it looks straightforward, I do not have the tools , equipment, or experience to attempt this on my own. Would the guys at the mall be able to fix this? like at a ubreakifix store?
Hello, I don’t know.
You need to ask them 😅
I didn't get why you had to cut the cable. Was it un-attachable from the other end?
Please see the full diagram of the screen to understand how it’s connected .
Great job,, i have some questions.. ❓❔⁉
11:23 what thickness are both jumper cables?
13:02 What tape is it?
Thanks, the tape is in the description.
The thickness is up to you.
@@iTouch-repair ok got, but, what did you use? in this specific situation
@@khbklajsjhyuwerkn949 you can use the coil inside the phone’s speaker. They come in variant sizes.
Where did you get the new cable and plug from, or do you have a part number for it.? Great video too , cheers.👍
in the description
Nice video! What gauge wire did you use to repair?
you can use any wire from a phone speaker coil.
Thank you for the response, yeah I want to make sure I put a 'thick' enough wire on those outside rails. Also, are you worried about that superglue holding long term? Is the heat going to potentially be a problem?@@iTouch-repair
@@Swinky88 The super glue needs more than 150 C degrees to start melting.
as for the long term, there is no tension on the cable that could lead to a problem.
would some proper sized heat-shrink tubing work instead of the tape?
It’s gonna add too much thickness and the flex won’t be able to move while opening and closing the lid.
@@iTouch-repair ok, so what kind of tape is that, automotive fabric tape? as in the kind of tape they use to wrap cable trees?
@@rick5078 you can find the name of the tape as a linke to it in the description of this video.
Hi i have Same issue with my macbook pro a1707 I am confused between replacing the whole display or just repair the flex cable. One guy told me that repair has 50 50 chances .
But iam thinking if display is replaced then the cable length would be same and this issue can most probably come again after some time. Which will be the most relaible and best among both of them so that it cant be seen in future? Please reply asap.
Hi, I would recommend fixing the flex.
As you mentioned, it’s best because you will fix the issue from its roots.
I can tell you from all the repairs that I’ve done, no one came back.
@@iTouch-repair thank you sir for your advise. Actually i contacted a technician who told me that flex cable have 50 percent chances of repair and he suggested me to change whole panel. That made me confused
are vertical bars on the screen also caused by flexgate?
Watch my latest UA-cam video on the channel
Hey boss, what's that cable called 11:09 , can I find that on amazon?
Hello, as i said in the video they are called jumper wires.
you need to search I don't know if they are sold on amazon.
For camera issue, do you think its also the display flex cable?
Hello, the second flex is the camera and temperature sensor flex.
hello sorry if someone already asked, but what soldering tip do u use... mine is way much bigger :/
Hi, I have a Hakko fx-951 soldering station and there are a lot of tips for that soldering station.
you can google the thinnest tip and work with that.
Hi. Is only the backlight ribbon damaged or the camera one too? what glue do you use to connect the tapes? how much do you extend the tape compared to the original length?
Hi, as for the flex cable, I only replaced one. Sometimes the camera flex gets damaged and you replace it when damaged.
As for the glue, it's a super glue that you can find in any hardware store.
I extend the flex by about 2-3cm that way it doesn't get damaged next time.
Hi, which tape you use to prevent damaging?
Hi, the tape, in the end, is Polytetrafluoroethylene Tape, the link in the description.
10mm width?
@@marianhopko4708 The one that i have is 13mm
Does this problem also happen with the 15-inch version of 2017?
Yes
Can't we just solder both side on their edges so we use only short wire or no wire at all (the solder tin connects them all)?
No, you need to solder them as each rail is assigned to do it’s job and make regulating the backlight possible
Where do you get the new cable to purchase?
Link in the description
Can i replace the cables without cutting half and gluing onto old one? Is it possible to just replace the entire piece?
Hello, you can’t because the flex goes under the screen and you’ll have to remove the screen for that!
Very bravo sir!
I’ve just bought the blacklight cable, gonna have a go tonight in the help with your video!
Can I ask where you put 9:40, 10:44 and 10:50?
Hi, at 9:40 it's a super glue
At 10:44 its flux
At 10:50 its solder paste
@@iTouch-repair thanks ! god bless you bro x.
@@iTouch-repair does the super glue have to be a conducive one ? Thanks for answering me x
@@royli6265 no
hi Li, did it work by following this video? I want to make same repairs on my own, any tips?
I have a A1708 macbook pro 2017 but its flickering and goes blank with back light still on when it gets hot , is that the same problem or something else?
I have another video on the channel about your issue, check it out.
I wish you were here to repair mine, a slightly used Macbook and this happened, I went to apple store and they wants me to pay and change the whole screen while we know it is only this small piece to be repaired :(
which size jumper wire to repair flex gate? 0.1mm? or 0.05mm?
Hi, I think you can use each one.
I don’t know the exact size, I have mine as a coil from an old iPhone speaker.
Did you end up trying the repair? I'm scrolling through with the same question. I have .1mm in hand but I'm trying to figure out if I need another size for the outside wires.
Do you provide this repair in US?
Hi, no but, you can send in your MacBook for repair.
Please contact me if you are considering sending in your device for repair.
Contacts in the description
This is exactly the issue on my macbook pro 2017, just went to apple tl fond out it will cost about 428$ to get it repaired
Question (respectfully asking): Why not just replace the flexcable?
That’s ok)))
The flex cable goes underneath the LCD, and to get to the flex I need to remove the LCD panel from the cover (the LCD is glued to the cover and it’s very expensive) and then try not to damage the backlight film layers and remove the flex cable.
If I could replace it I would’ve done it, it’s much easier to desolder couple of pins and solder them back than this.
Can you please tell me the thickness of the cables you use? 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi, you can use the thickness that you see is the best for you.
i use two different kinds of thickness:
one is 0.007mm
second is 0.078mm or 40 AWG wire
@@iTouch-repair Hey! Where can i purchase this 0.007 and 0.78mm wires? Do you have a name of this cable? I was trying to find it on amazon but no luck.
@@rahulp2288 you can find it on aliexpress
@@iTouch-repair hi boss having same problem, and I found the flex 2 ro ali expres where can find the gum?
07:27 Maybe a stupid question, but I really do not understand, so PLEASE help me.
Why do you soldering wires instead of replacing whole cable? Why go super hard (and not very reliable as soldered cable will not be as much resistant as original) instead of super easy way just replacing whole cable?
Hi, as I explained before for many comments, the flex goes under the LCD, so in order to fully replace it I need to remove the screen from the lid.
Another reason for going super hard is, the issue in the first place occurred the flex is a little shorter causing this issue, and I am adding length to the flex to avoid this issue being repeated.
@@iTouch-repair is it doable? Can you remove it without damaging? I know that on TVs you can, I did it myself once, but Mac display is way smaller unit compared to TV.
Thank you!
@@UbbeWankenubbe I have a video on how to replace a screen on MacBook Air you can check it to see the level of difficulty.
My 2017 MacBook Pro is getting footlights or stage lights. I'm wondering if the apple people will need to wipe my computer to fix it? It seems all the repairs I've needed so far they always have to wipe everything 😅
Hi, this repair doesn’t require any type of software interference, it’s only a hardware issue.
I thought he was gonna take apart the display and solder it from there but interesting approach nonetheless. At the very least apple should've made the damn ribbon cable detachable like to old models.
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What type of cables do you use and what size? I'm a beginner.
You can use the coil in the smartphone’s speaker.
but isn't it very fragile? @@iTouch-repair
@@iTouch-repair nice And can I use the same gauge for thick stitches?
@@viralespopulares1073 from an old one, you can damage the speaker just to get the coil.
@@viralespopulares1073 you can double the cable for the thickness
I have questions sir, I think the rail is yellow ,why don't you put wire jumper in yellow rail ? Please I have same problem
I made jumpers for all the rails.
Watch the video closely.
@@iTouch-repair in 7:51 minutes, I see you cut flexible. and then you just revealed one side of flexible only but the other side you didn't. Did you do the same for the other side ?
@@erde2243 this side is only for the backlight.
In 7:35 I show the whole flex cable and then I cut the side that I need to solder.
Please watch the video closely I explained everything.
Why would you not just replace the entire cable with the new one, which you had in your possession? This does not seem like the way Apple would repair it if you brought it in shop. While it seems that you are very skilled and have professional tools, this is a ridiculous amount of difficult work, it seems the new joint be a weak point for future failure.
Hi, long story short, the flex cable goes underneath the screen, so to replace it from the roots you will need to remove the screen from the lid and replace it (you can search how to replace a screen on these models).
If you take it to Apple, be ready to pay big money for this repair, they had their repair program for this issue I think now they closed it.
do i replace both or just one?
The one in the video is for backlight, and the other is for the camera .
If the camera is not working, then yes replace both.
@@iTouch-repair wait so the left one is for the camera and then the right one is for the black light? cause i got the peice from amazon and it came with one right and one left
@@Motivationcation they are sold as one
@@iTouch-repair my MacBook has two flex gates and the one on aliexpress and amazon comes with two left and right
@@Motivationcation they come in pairs
If people could just know how hard technically this is 😅
Hmm. Bad design Apple. Now, to bodge or not to bodge, that is the question...
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Apple are refusing to fix this for me.. they want to charge me £450 for a bew screen 😡
why do all these DYI videos have annoying, distracting music in the background????? Plus, you're not saying much of anything as you go and we have NO clue WTF you're doing most of the time.
Where did you ready from this video that it’s a DIY video??!
This repair is only for professional technicians, and they know what this video all about.
If you would like to learn microsoldering, start with basic electronics and work your way to microsoldering.
We spend years and years of training and still can mess up whiles we do our job.
I disagree with your opening statement that this is caused by open and closing the lid way to much. I have a 2010 MacBook that I can assure you has been opened and closed way more that a 2017 and it has no backlight issues. This is clearly a design issue from Apple for making the backlight flex cable a few mm’s to short. This is not because the user opens and closes his MacBook.
IT is from the cable they use. Opening and closing the lid stresses the cable and will eventually crack it. They used a different cable system on the older MBP
The issue is only common with MACBOOK starting from 2016
@@theromeog exactly 💯
Yeah... actually it is from opening and closing.
Exactly. There is no valid reason for display cables to get damaged from opening and closing the lid. Should be able to open and close the lid millions of times with the only thing wearing out being the hinges over a long period of wear and tear. This is one of many intentional design flaws to prematurely provoke customers into getting expensive repairs done.