It's a Peugeot RCZ R as shown by the twin exhausts, which is no joke. 267bhp from a turbocharged 1.6 litre four cylinder, that's more power than this mk3 Focus ST has from its 2 litre. It also weighed only 1350kg which is nearly 100kg less than the Focus ST. It was and still is no slouch.
I'm actually surprised it was even this close. I think this video did the opposite for me it was intended. Seems the ST is fine for a driver/highway pull car- always surprised with how hard mine pulls. Undoubtedly the RS would kill the ST on a track, but that's what my other cars are for. Cool. I canceled my RS order back in October, I think I made the right call.
I bought an ST over an RS because I felt like I was getting 80% of the car for like 60% of the price. My ST3 has the exact same interior as the RS, except I have full leather instead of Alcantara, which is a benefit because Alcantara gets gross if you aren't meticulous about caring for it. Additionally, the 2.0 Ecoboost engine is a lot more sturdy than the 2.3 because the 2.0 is closed deck.
From everyone I’ve seen and talked to the RS models have more problems than ST. I also chose an ST because all the rs in my area were heavily moded and riced out. It sucks that I didn’t get AWD but for the price there was no way I wasn’t going with an ST.
Very awesome video! Definitely not regretting getting the 2017 Focus ST myself! I do have one request, though! Do you guys think you can turn the intro music down a little? I love that you don't overlay the music during the videos, and the music itself isn't bad at all, just it's a bit louder compared to the rest of the video, and compared to other videos I watch while my headphones are set to the same volume. Keep up the great POVs!!
old ST with 2.5 litre engine tuned was faster than todays 2 litres. It produced around 45-50 kg torgue from low revs and with lightweight Oz rims it could beat many Ferraris back in the days.
@@petrus3801 From what I´ve heard "Subiperformance a youtuber engine builder" they are also pretty bad... most of the block, that wanne get more power need Dalton Sleeves! Because they have the same problems, like the older P60 Volvos ;-)
15K is quite alot, you could build a new closed deck block with all forged internals and slap a big turbo on it for that much. And the RS's can't take much power mods on the stock block since they have a tendency to blow head gaskets.
The difference is far less than i thought it would be. On paper it's huge, but it looks like in real life it isn't that much. The one big killer is the AWD on that RS.
Kangaroo Jack For years and years I felt the same! Now I own an 08 plate on stage two remapp with a bunch of other mods. Owned it nearly three years and still absolutely love it. Hope you got one too 👍🏻
The best automotive engineer imo. They create such a wide array of interesting products. Ford designers are also really talented at creating great looking designs.
I do miss the Autobahn. I complicate all meine deutscheland drivers. To be able to drive at 250Kmps for 30km is very impressive. American's are not trained to handle such speeds, but we do try when we go to Germany. I do aspire to return one day.
ST is a great hot-hatch, but the fact is the ST is 350 kilo lighter. While ST is down on power by 100 hp at crank, the 4wd on RS will get 280-290 hp at wheels while ST might end up around 210 hp at wheels. So in a simple straight line comparison the ST is 350 kilo lighter and about 70-80 hp less at wheels. Also important, the RS has quite some downforce/drag compared to the ST... draw the line and the relative small differences in acceleration from a roll are not that surprising. Take them to the track, or twisted roads, or rally type environment, or less than optimal weather and there is no comparison between them anymore. And is logical too, the RS is the top/halo product of Ford Performance and it has to show it when it comes to performance.
OMG did anyone else find it funny that when the RS was doing the test run on the freeway he put his signal to get in the fast lane? By that time he was going around 80+ mph so one was trying to pass him on top of that he's being cautious yet driving 130+ MPH on a public road 😂
rs has lot more low end power, but top end is fairly flat. Power drops off after 5,700 rpms. You should shift to next gear around 6,200 rpms in higher gears (3, 4, 5) - to stay in better powerband.
The shift light exists for a reason. The RS drops 50 hp between 6000 and 6500: when the shift light lits up, shift, you just make it slower if you dont.
Funny to see that the European Foci get a nicer audio control and a cover over the cupholders. I wouldn't mind that. The Sony knob looks kind of cheap.
Yo this video is off the chain!!! What car were you racing we dont get that in America! First i thought it was an audi tt then the back looked like a pontiac!! Was it a renault? Or vaxuahl
At the begining of the video, some specs are wrong. It is true that the upper one is the RS and the lower one is the ST, because of the dashboard, but the ST has 250hp and the RS 350hp, also the top speed and the 0-100 is changed.
Just a though. I don't think most ST owners even knew about the RS as it was harder to find in the US. But if they did and had the extra $ they probably would have went with the RS. Because it smokes the ST in a strait line and in the corners.
Fact1: The ST maintains the same distance in speed above about 110kph. Stays within about 18ish KPH. This means, that between about 100-220 the ST is almost the same. Thats insane. I know that the RS is heavier and there is a lot of loss due to AWD and a bigger drag coefficient. But still 100hp more. And more hp is glorified at high speeds. But not this time. Fact2: The RSs are not making 350hp most of the times. This sample should be a weak one (lets say 325hp) Fact3:The weather is crucial. ST went in a slightly rainy, very humid colder(?) conditions, and the RS in was warm(hot?) dry. For this much tuned turbocharged cars this could make huge differences in performance. My RS is very fast, but one day I tried it in a foggy 9 Celsius degrees day...and it was like a teleport machine, car was much stronger at the high end. And highend is mostly crucial on highways. SO there you are, the RS would be a bit more quicker in the exact same conditions Fact4: ST is an awesome package as it is (comfier everyday machine with plenty of power and awesome cornering capabilities)
yeh he passed two trucks going over 100 mph then they were you tell me that that s not fucked up. At least when I was a biker I had the commen decency to slow down and not pass folks going that fast. its not like your winning any money folks. its a real game of life and death.
I assume the facts are wrong but the cars are correct and ST is on the bottom RS on top (since it was faster). Was it the same driver for both videos? The ST does a pretty good job keeping up (doesn't seem too far behind) but you can tell it's not handling the shifts quite as well. If it's anything like the Fiesta ST they forgot to upgrade the Engine mount in the Focus ST, It looks like they upgraded it for the RS (or the driver was just taking it easier in the RS or shifting better). If you're driving the ST like that often, I'd definitely get an upgraded engine mount, I think that would help.
For an round-about 20km/h difference ,the ST ! And with the price-diff. Some special extrem light-weight wheels.......does it make sense??? If not the fiesta-ST and tune-in'g parts.......
The ST is honestly not that quick as it is made out to be. Alot of it has to do with the hard, low suspension, big-bolstered seats, manual shifts, small cabin with bad NVH and in-car noise amplification systems that give the falsified feel that you are going really quick.
Hard suspenion, recaro bucket seats, standard transmission, and small cabin makes the car go slow? Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. All of thoses things contribute to good handling characteristics. Car weighs 3200lbs. You're the one thats slow
I like Ford cars, always have, but I have not liked their dashboards lately. Also, I wish Peugeot would bring their cars back to the U.S. I miss seeing them and my Uncle always reminisces about is Peugeot diesels.
Not in those years but I had a Lincoln mark viii 1993 and I promise you that the big rear wheel drive boat was faster, it had a 4.6 32V V8 engine with a teksid block
BUT...its a Peugeot so its a piece of shit however fast it goes, soon as I saw it on the video I thought..."yeah but you're in a Peugeot, you couldn't afford a better badge, how cute"
You got the numbers wrong just sayin . Kinda through me off for a sec. The front-wheel-drive Focus ST uses a 2.0-literturbocharged 4-cylinder, which is mated to a 6-speed manual transmission. It returns 252 horsepower and 270 lb-ft of torque. Fuel economy is 23 miles per gallon in the city and 31 mpg on the highway, while going from a standstill to 60 miles per hour comes in the low- to mid-6-second range. Meanwhile, the Focus RS comes with standard all-wheel drive. It touts a 2.3-liter turbocharged 4-cylinder that makes an impressive 350 hp and 350 lb-ft of torque. Fuel economy is expected to be around 20 mpg city/30 mpg hwy, while the hatchback's 0-to-60 time is in the high 4-second range.
Lol the power, weight and performance figures are switched. Caught me off guard for a sec.
Ah shit..
Thats TRUE, i was lite WTF but then i figured!
You fucked up... :p
lol, thanks for posting this... it made no sense whatsoever. Had me second guessing the fundamentals of what makes a car go fast lol.
Still not fixed...
RS = 350HP/440Nm
ST = 250HP/360Nm
RS= 1599 kg
ST= 1392 kg
Facts from the cars are switched XD
vwfreakjonny seems so... I wondered
We screwed up.. PLEASE forgive us :(
you might consider reuploading, since the vid just came out and it's not too late :)
Lol!! Reupload quickly!!
which car is better ? :P
1:05 oof, that’s a nice launch
If the ST had All Wheel Drive at the same price point, it would be the best car on the market hands down.
YES
r1tual no the rs would. It makes more power
no he means if the ST was still $25k and had AWD it would be better. The RS is $20k more almost double price
If I could post a picture of Patrick Stewart doing a face palm, I would.
Anthony Mancuso you have no idea what you're talking about...
That RCZ R is quite good, even though it has just 20 Extra HP, his speed is goof
the way the camera was setup really showed how much fast the car was going that I could feel it
Holy F*cking speed with that RS. I just kept looking at how fast the trees blew by.
Focus RS 250 HP and Focus ST 350 HP ???
Mistake. Facts are switched...
This is totally flipped buddy xD
Jerac1000 yep rs 245
Saladin Mahmoud To the crank that is
no rs is 350 st is 250
1:10 Audi driver: Oh, an focus rs!
1:31 Audi driver: Ohh! Another focus rs!
LOL
The same focus RS
Watching this video got my heart pounding at work
Love the video. No music. No talking. All about the car.
I love Ford Hot-Hatches
jullie hebben de informatie van de auto's omgedraaid, lekker bezig....
ja man klopt ,ik was ook van hhhmmmmmm iets klopt hier niet...
2:52 MONICAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Emayar Siyues ..... hahahahaha no doubt!!!😎
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budy zeta LOL .... 🤣
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Poor guy probably wished he had the RS when he was racing that black car
Yeah
siddharth kona black being a Peugeot RCZ 1.6.......
@@1lee73 oh man I thought that was a Nissan 350z
It's a Peugeot RCZ R as shown by the twin exhausts, which is no joke. 267bhp from a turbocharged 1.6 litre four cylinder, that's more power than this mk3 Focus ST has from its 2 litre. It also weighed only 1350kg which is nearly 100kg less than the Focus ST. It was and still is no slouch.
@@pgr3290 Doesnt the ST weigh like 1300 KG?
I'm actually surprised it was even this close. I think this video did the opposite for me it was intended. Seems the ST is fine for a driver/highway pull car- always surprised with how hard mine pulls. Undoubtedly the RS would kill the ST on a track, but that's what my other cars are for. Cool. I canceled my RS order back in October, I think I made the right call.
I bought an ST over an RS because I felt like I was getting 80% of the car for like 60% of the price. My ST3 has the exact same interior as the RS, except I have full leather instead of Alcantara, which is a benefit because Alcantara gets gross if you aren't meticulous about caring for it.
Additionally, the 2.0 Ecoboost engine is a lot more sturdy than the 2.3 because the 2.0 is closed deck.
From everyone I’ve seen and talked to the RS models have more problems than ST. I also chose an ST because all the rs in my area were heavily moded and riced out. It sucks that I didn’t get AWD but for the price there was no way I wasn’t going with an ST.
That RS launch was glorious
By the facts from the cars, seems like the ST is the best option xD
BoostedBlast96 not when you add some corners. RS is leagues ahead then.
He's having a laugh. The stats from the RS/ST were accidentally swapped.
BoostedBlast96 it’s mixed up
The facts are switched the one at the bottom is the RS specs and the one on top os the ST Specs
Very awesome video! Definitely not regretting getting the 2017 Focus ST myself!
I do have one request, though! Do you guys think you can turn the intro music down a little? I love that you don't overlay the music during the videos, and the music itself isn't bad at all, just it's a bit louder compared to the rest of the video, and compared to other videos I watch while my headphones are set to the same volume.
Keep up the great POVs!!
Thanks to your pfp I will be selling my 2017.
@@_.Mercury._ sell it to me good sire
@@ternedo6074 I owe like 20k on it big dog.
No one mentioning the ST was dropped by the Peugeot easily..
That RCZ-R is one quick machine!!
199 kW / 270 pk
1.280 kg
Has a little bit more HP.
Because nobody cares about a Peugeot
It was the shifting aswel which led the st to become 2nd
old ST with 2.5 litre engine tuned was faster than todays 2 litres. It produced around 45-50 kg torgue from low revs and with lightweight Oz rims it could beat many Ferraris back in the days.
But the Engine has a major problem… i had the same engine in my Volvo V70R and it cracked the sleaves unfortunatly.
@@arnepielhoff8073 from what i've gathered they strengthened the sleeves in the facelift model
@@petrus3801 From what I´ve heard "Subiperformance a youtuber engine builder" they are also pretty bad... most of the block, that wanne get more power need Dalton Sleeves! Because they have the same problems, like the older P60 Volvos ;-)
Thanks for this video! I traded in my RS and upgraded to an ST 😁
Jayclem84 that’s when you have to realize you fucked up because the stats are switched
Sarcasm
Downgraded*
What Does A Focus ST Roush Exhaust Sound Like?
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The real question should be how fast is the RS compared to an ST with $15,000 in tuning
Lmao Ik I’m late but it’d shit on the RS mine already does with just fbo and tune with minor fuel upgrades
15K is quite alot, you could build a new closed deck block with all forged internals and slap a big turbo on it for that much. And the RS's can't take much power mods on the stock block since they have a tendency to blow head gaskets.
That clutch and drivetrain took a hit on that set off. Literally flicked that clutch up.
One of the most underrated cars ever
Pretty sure you have the specs in the first bit of the video backwards. The ST has 250hp, the RS has 350. Same thing with the 0-60 tests...
i envy the respect for basic road laws in your country
I think he's from the Netherlands driving in Germany. So technically it's not his laws haha
The difference is far less than i thought it would be. On paper it's huge, but it looks like in real life it isn't that much. The one big killer is the AWD on that RS.
FOCUS ST is my dream car :) Some day I'll own one.
Did you get one? It's been 2 years.
Kangaroo Jack For years and years I felt the same! Now I own an 08 plate on stage two remapp with a bunch of other mods. Owned it nearly three years and still absolutely love it. Hope you got one too 👍🏻
My dream car to, I hope I get one in roughly 2 years😢😮
I noticed the ST figures were showing as being more than the RS. Almost had me gassed.
fords engineers are mental ..love it
The best automotive engineer imo. They create such a wide array of interesting products. Ford designers are also really talented at creating great looking designs.
@@KB-bh9hp ill second that ….
RCZ R compares really well against the Focus ST @ 250 hp! Magnificent! Haters gonna hate the 1.6L reinforced THP Engine by Peugeot Sport.
2:09 Wtf
Upshift and then downshift for corner quickly
@@therightstuffau ah yes I see why he downshifted now
Proof your videos, Auto TopNL. The RS is on the top, the figures are backwards.
man this is why the focus rs is my favorite car, its faster than the st which is way more older version
I do miss the Autobahn. I complicate all meine deutscheland drivers. To be able to drive at 250Kmps for 30km is very impressive. American's are not trained to handle such speeds, but we do try when we go to Germany.
I do aspire to return one day.
Peugeot RCZ oh my God.
Wish the ST had all wheel drive. It would be even more fun.
Nah, ST is fine as it is. Its 200kg lighter than RS and can be fuel efficient if you drive like a normal human. Perfect daily car.
@georgexander7170 are you dumb? why are you speaking like that. and it does not need AWD have you even drove one
I’d estimate a Remapped ST , from 60-160kph will be close to the RS time . 🧐
Can someone tell me, which is better? This Focus Rs or Civic Type R? Need a video
ST is a great hot-hatch, but the fact is the ST is 350 kilo lighter. While ST is down on power by 100 hp at crank, the 4wd on RS will get 280-290 hp at wheels while ST might end up around 210 hp at wheels. So in a simple straight line comparison the ST is 350 kilo lighter and about 70-80 hp less at wheels. Also important, the RS has quite some downforce/drag compared to the ST... draw the line and the relative small differences in acceleration from a roll are not that surprising. Take them to the track, or twisted roads, or rally type environment, or less than optimal weather and there is no comparison between them anymore. And is logical too, the RS is the top/halo product of Ford Performance and it has to show it when it comes to performance.
the stats fot the hp figures are switched around...
Yellow car - you sure picked a fine day to do your high speed test !
Less hp=faster
Yes I know the facts are switched
Oh, my bad guys, I thought I was still looking at the Ford Fiesta ST videos. Carry on.
OMG did anyone else find it funny that when the RS was doing the test run on the freeway he put his signal to get in the fast lane? By that time he was going around 80+ mph so one was trying to pass him on top of that he's being cautious yet driving 130+ MPH on a public road 😂
I couldn't drive that fast. I'd shit my pants lmfao
Focus ST needs to be shifted before 6000rpm, power falls off SHARPLY after 5500rpm.
Thanks m8 will keep in mind
rs has lot more low end power, but top end is fairly flat. Power drops off after 5,700 rpms. You should shift to next gear around 6,200 rpms in higher gears (3, 4, 5) - to stay in better powerband.
Definitely get the Focus RS
St is cheaper and fast enough for a daily driver
buying an RS soon, currently with an SE, gonna Sequential turbo the rs tho, its def not staying stock
🤑🤑🤑🤑$$$$$
Great comparison!
I wanna trade my '15 ST in for an RS so badly
well ill take my 200CAD a month for 16 ST over a what ... 800CAD a month for the RS haha ...
get a Job nerd
Please can you help me fuel/100 how mutch in normal Cruise annd in full Cruise ?
Neither Rev very high, but boring engine sound, no aggression up high in the revs just flat tone.
Love to see a remapped focus st vs a Stock RS from a rolling start, it’ll never get the traction from a Standstill.
No.
Is beautiful this Ford Sport😍
1225KG from the Focus RS with 4Matic???
you guys have the hp mixed up
they do it with purpose because they want comments lol
I’m more of a v8 mustang guy, but the focus cars are pretty slick and pretty quick to
And also, on what planet does a Focus ST weigh 1225kg? Add 200kg and you're about right.
i was thinking my ST needs to go on a diet if it should weigh that little
The specs are switched
What planet? The moon of course lol
For me ST is winner here. Do the simple Chip Tunning on ST, and you will gate the same results as RS for much less money
Not just a simple tune... Gonna need to upgrade some hardware too!
True Focus fans are still here
The shift light exists for a reason. The RS drops 50 hp between 6000 and 6500: when the shift light lits up, shift, you just make it slower if you dont.
Funny to see that the European Foci get a nicer audio control and a cover over the cupholders.
I wouldn't mind that. The Sony knob looks kind of cheap.
This video had one job. And it got the figures switched. ....
I didn't know my st had 350 hp... I guess that's why it's fun to drive in the Hollywood hills.
KNOWLEDGE!
Medical Tacos specs mixed
Knowledge is power. 😂
Hey bro u have got the facts of the cars switched , the Ford focus rs has 350bho and it's awd and ford focus st is a cwd with 250bhp!
Yo this video is off the chain!!! What car were you racing we dont get that in America! First i thought it was an audi tt then the back looked like a pontiac!! Was it a renault? Or vaxuahl
You got them backwards but I’m sure everyone in the comments has already said it haha.
Gegevens van de auto's zijn verwisseld
At the begining of the video, some specs are wrong. It is true that the upper one is the RS and the lower one is the ST, because of the dashboard, but the ST has 250hp and the RS 350hp, also the top speed and the 0-100 is changed.
Just a though. I don't think most ST owners even knew about the RS as it was harder to find in the US. But if they did and had the extra $ they probably would have went with the RS. Because it smokes the ST in a strait line and in the corners.
Very nice!!! :)
Fact1: The ST maintains the same distance in speed above about 110kph. Stays within about 18ish KPH. This means, that between about 100-220 the ST is almost the same. Thats insane. I know that the RS is heavier and there is a lot of loss due to AWD and a bigger drag coefficient. But still 100hp more. And more hp is glorified at high speeds. But not this time.
Fact2: The RSs are not making 350hp most of the times. This sample should be a weak one (lets say 325hp)
Fact3:The weather is crucial. ST went in a slightly rainy, very humid colder(?) conditions, and the RS in was warm(hot?) dry. For this much tuned turbocharged cars this could make huge differences in performance. My RS is very fast, but one day I tried it in a foggy 9 Celsius degrees day...and it was like a teleport machine, car was much stronger at the high end. And highend is mostly crucial on highways. SO there you are, the RS would be a bit more quicker in the exact same conditions
Fact4: ST is an awesome package as it is (comfier everyday machine with plenty of power and awesome cornering capabilities)
Thought your man was done in 5th then found 6th gear and I got nervous ngl
pretty sure you switched the hp on the st and rs. st has 250 and rs has 350. you have the opposite
Pretty sure 20+ other people already said that and he replied.
AmnScottNN pretty sure I have better things to than to read all the fucking comments
Both sound sweet, but the RS sounds REALLY sweet!
yeh he passed two trucks going over 100 mph then they were you tell me that that s not fucked up. At least when I was a biker I had the commen decency to slow down and not pass folks going that fast. its not like your winning any money folks. its a real game of life and death.
Me who owns the 1.0 ecoboost watching this
The RS has 350 and the ST has 250. You're wrong
They've clearly just got them mixed up.
wow, thanks tips! I would have never known otherwise..... smdh fucking idiot
I assume the facts are wrong but the cars are correct and ST is on the bottom RS on top (since it was faster).
Was it the same driver for both videos? The ST does a pretty good job keeping up (doesn't seem too far behind) but you can tell it's not handling the shifts quite as well. If it's anything like the Fiesta ST they forgot to upgrade the Engine mount in the Focus ST, It looks like they upgraded it for the RS (or the driver was just taking it easier in the RS or shifting better).
If you're driving the ST like that often, I'd definitely get an upgraded engine mount, I think that would help.
Are they both stock? What was the black car that pulled away?
the guy driving the ST had no idea how pick gears. I was cringing
For an round-about 20km/h difference ,the ST ! And with the price-diff. Some special extrem light-weight wheels.......does it make sense???
If not the fiesta-ST and tune-in'g parts.......
2:53 lol!!!!
The ST is honestly not that quick as it is made out to be. Alot of it has to do with the hard, low suspension, big-bolstered seats, manual shifts, small cabin with bad NVH and in-car noise amplification systems that give the falsified feel that you are going really quick.
Hard suspenion, recaro bucket seats, standard transmission, and small cabin makes the car go slow?
Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. All of thoses things contribute to good handling characteristics. Car weighs 3200lbs. You're the one thats slow
@@chrisl7175 No you obviously misread what I said. Have another shot you slow boy you ;)
I like Ford cars, always have, but I have not liked their dashboards lately. Also, I wish Peugeot would bring their cars back to the U.S. I miss seeing them and my Uncle always reminisces about is Peugeot diesels.
These 4 cylinder cars go fast. I wonder if there were any big Lincoln cars/limos in the 1960s-1970s faster than these 2 Focuses.
Not in those years but I had a Lincoln mark viii 1993 and I promise you that the big rear wheel drive boat was faster, it had a 4.6 32V V8 engine with a teksid block
What was the peugeot?
No worries found it it was an rcz r.
BUT...its a Peugeot so its a piece of shit however fast it goes, soon as I saw it on the video I thought..."yeah but you're in a Peugeot, you couldn't afford a better badge, how cute"
Dont make jokes about the rcz Im not really a fan of french cars too but 270 hp out of a 1.6 is pretty impressive
Jean-Andre Sonnenschein it wasn’t a joke
well k then
You got the numbers wrong just sayin . Kinda through me off for a sec. The front-wheel-drive Focus ST uses a 2.0-literturbocharged 4-cylinder, which is mated to a 6-speed manual transmission. It returns 252 horsepower and 270 lb-ft of torque. Fuel economy is 23 miles per gallon in the city and 31 mpg on the highway, while going from a standstill to 60 miles per hour comes in the low- to mid-6-second range.
Meanwhile, the Focus RS comes with standard all-wheel drive. It touts a 2.3-liter turbocharged 4-cylinder that makes an impressive 350 hp and 350 lb-ft of torque. Fuel economy is expected to be around 20 mpg city/30 mpg hwy, while the hatchback's 0-to-60 time is in the high 4-second range.
You got the facts switched around.
Very confused by the annotations for the cars...
Makes me want to drive my ST.. I had to put her up for the winter.
Stupid summer tires..
Technomancer Why didn't you get winter tires? Cost? All seasons even would have done fine
When i got it, they didnt offer any summer tires.
I got the '13 model; they didnt offer much in the first years.
I drove both and the st feels just as quick honestly
226 hp right??
😂 it must have been on the playstation
Am I right in thinking that the bhp on the video is wrong for the RS
What's he racing at about the 3:00 mark?
Seems like he's short-shifting the cars..
RCZ-R
So funny that he got walked doing a top end run. Lmao
I didnt realize it was kilometers when they hit 200 I was like holy f