Much more useful than a state of the watch collection video. This explains the lifecycle of a watch purchase from birth to grave and the reasoning for the acquisition and disposal. Very helpful for those, like me, who would rather not cycle through many watches if better decision making can make that possible. Thank you.
The compromise buy is the worst trap, in my opinion, and one most of us fall into. Either because you don't have the budget at the time or your target watch is nowhere to be had, you end up sinking money into a watch that 90% of the time you end up regretting buying. And most of the time it doesn't see any wrist time either because it just reminds you of what watch it is not.
Lets face is some watches will ALWAYS be out of reach for many of us (increasing prices, styles being discontinued before we have the money etc ), plus tastes change over time, plus new watches are constantly being released i.e. what seemed like a great purchase may in two years seem a 'compromise' when a new watch is released - but of course there is no guarantee that that 'perfect' watch will ever be released.
What a fantastic video. I wish more watch UA-camrs would release a comprehensive video like this. I’ve also enjoyed videos explaining why a collector ended up selling a particular watch they had pined for for a long time.
I sold a Rolex Skydweller, a neo-vintage explorer 2, Rolex Datejust 41 and Omega Seamaster in the last year and I don’t miss them at all, I’m happy that the people who bought them, love them. Great video
Fascinating video 👍. Well done for admitting TGV influenced you, I love his videos, but not his taste in watches. I don't regret any I have sold, but then I've only sold two! I've given away more, but when they cost under £50 there's not much point selling 😁
The mention of an excel sheet had me chuckle for a bit, but after a bit of consideration I'm now thinking I might pick up on that. Might be very fun to look back to the wearing habits from months or years prior.
I like this channel, and the host is great. But having an excel to record the usage of his watches, made me think that the guy is losing his marbles a little. I say it with love, humor, and respect though. ❤
@@WestCoastAce27 I track my collection history on iPhone notes 🙂 I never tracked wear and I don’t think I would…but having a history of ownership with pics and dates in an app would be good imo 😉
The watch collecting experience is unique to every individual. There are no mistakes, just that everyone’s tastes change as we mature. My style of collecting today is to add a watch that I want to my “buy list”. Then I go back and review every so often. If the watch appeals to me again then I watch it until it gets to the “right price” that I determine to be right. I find that some of the watches on my list from last year no longer appeal to me, so I remove them.
Mistake purchases are part of the journey. They help you really understand your own tastes and style. Pretty much unavoidable at some point and just part of the hobby. I only buy used watches, so the financial risk of buying the wrong watch is muted quite a bit. In the coming years, I plan on purchasing watch brands that I currently don't own just to see what I might be missing. Some will be mistakes, but if I buy them used it's no big deal.
I've never sold a watch. After watching this, my small collection of 10-12 watches, with only 5 that cost over $300, and only one over $2000, doesn't seem so obsessive and expensive. One of my "nice" watches is a dress watch (Seiko SARB065), and it hardly ever gets wear, so I don't seriously considering buying more, although I still like looking at dress watches with a classic vintage style. I continue to buy $30- $50 Timex's as daily beaters and for whitewater kayaking. I really like their "indiglo" feature - it's way more functional than lume. Expensive watches are jewelry that also tell time for me.
I'm with you, I have never sold a watch. My daily is also a Timex, the Hodinkee Waterbury Limited.... if you like Timex's (I do, my grandfather wore nothing but Timex's) you should check it out.
My Timex Ironman is the go to watch for kayaking and mountain biking. That's all you need out there! Love the SARB and looking for one as my next purchase
same here, about 10 watches in 30 years (never sold one). I roll my eyes when people are rationalise buying loads of stuff as their "collecting journey"
Funny he said "Soulless" about the Rolex he sold. After buying and selling and buying and selling again That perfectly described my Journey with Rolex. It's a very good watch in a very Over The Top Marketing and Mythological Hyped way. They wore like an Anchor....physically and Mentally. My most expensive watches are under $3000.00 And I WEAR them. The majority are under $1500.00 and Again I Wear them. My most Valuable Watch? My Grandfathers 1960's Timex....scratches and all and YES it took a Licking And It STILL Keeps Ticking!
I reget selling my PAM00024, I sold it because People start hating on Panerai. After selling it I learned that I dont care what people think I want a PAM🎉
I really enjoy this channel. Very clean presentation without all of the hype and sizzle. The pivotal point in my watch collecting journey was when I started keeping and buying watches that I like vs what I’m supposed to like. Once this lightbulb went off…the churn in my collection slowed…and I was much happier and content
I resonated with a lot of this and have made many of the same "mistakes". I'm getting better at buying what I like, what sparks joy, and pleases my eye and my soul. I have watches that are less than $300 that give more more joy than others I have for five figures. I don't have a lot of regrets but mine would be an Omega Aquaterra--bought it b/c everyone said we are supposed to. And I regret selling my Grand Seiko SBGJ217. A boring watch for others but an absolute stunner for me. I thought I had too many dress watches--I don't really need any dress watches in my line of work. But that dial, finishing, and movement brought a light of joy. I still gaze at the pictures I took...sigh
I also bought some watches which were loved by other collectors (mostly vintage Omegas), and then I realised that I bought them to feel part of those collectors circle, but they didn’t mean anything to me. Most collectors friends couldn’t understand why I sold them. It would be interesting to have the logic why you have certain watches in your collection and what they represent for you.
I regret selling a very cheap, but handsome, “TV case” Diesel watch. It was a gift long ago. I recently re-purchased the same model & put it on a fancy buffalo leather strap, and I’m happy it’s back. I’ll now always keep watches that were gifted to me by friends, family and loved ones.
70+ watches ... Haven't sold one yet (given 3-4 away to family as i improved that style of watch) ... I enjoy having multiple brands, multiple styles in my collection ... While some get more wear than others i still enjoy them ALL. That said to each their own collection style and technique and criteria that is what makes this hobby great - the variety.
Every sale that I ve made was because of the next experience I was looking for. It is like traveling around the world. And once you have seen too many countries, you start to visit those that really comfort you. After nearly 20 years on my watch journey, I do not see the regret of buying or selling a watch. If you are buying you buy the experience. And if you are selling it, it is ok that taste can change. Watchcollecting is an emotional hobby from the heart and your brain constantly wants to put the results of your decisions under a rational behavior.
Really interesting and honest look at collecting philosophy from someone who obviously can afford some of the luxury pieces but not afraid to go for the lower premium, lesser known ones if it suits his journey. My own budget is a little more geared towards the budget end of the market and when it comes to flipping a watch I tend to be a bit mercenary - if I let it go it was not meant to be. I have rebought a couple of watches in the past but have only sold them again only cementing my original decision.
Mike, I have been following your videos for qiute a while now and I really find them standing out from the usual watch videos. I like the way you look at both, Brands and Watches, while not being blinded by widespread brand perception. Always fun and entertaining. I have been collecting watches for over 30 years now and like you - bought some, sold some. What I regret to have sold is the 4940 Girard Perregaux Traveller II, Time-Zone + Alarm. I did even use the alarm function when travelling. ( using the second time zone though was quite cumbersome) I sold it to make space for something new ( don´t even recall for which) - but anyway: I miss it. best from Berlin. Andre PS: my latest is the Moser Pioneer 40 mm, which I love - and plan to keep.
Very nice video that resonates with us that have this watch disease. Sold my Tudor bb 41 Heritage red bezel when I purchased a Tudor bb chrono reverse panda. I miss it all the time and have considered repurchasing but will not if I stick to my guns, maybe? A watch that I really really wanted but after purchase only wore a couple times? A Longines big eye.
The reason I never have sold my red bezel Tudor Black Bay Heritage is because everyone I read that has sold the watch has regretted doing so. I almost sold it but glad I didn’t because recently I have reconnected with the watch.
Congratulations on the authenticity of the channel. After spending a lot of time watching mainstream videos… I found this channel and it ticked all the right boxes. Congrats!
Thank you. Your video caused me think over my watch decisions. Unlike you, I don’t have the discipline to sell the watch’s I don’t wear. I retired so my dress watches don’t see much action other than “date nights.” My sport watches are in a rotation except during home projects, then the G Shocks get their moment in the sun. The only discipline I have is holding out for watches I really want to own, but they don’t come available often. (A lot of watches tempt me during my wait, but I know I won’t like them as they will remind me of compromising my goals.) As a rule, I have learned not to sell my watches, guitars, and guns. I think of when I violated my rule and get sick when I see what they have done in value.
This watch hobby really is an illness honestly.... in 3 years I've sold three Speedmasters , two Aqua Terras, an IWC, two Hamiltons, two Seikos, given away a bunch of Casios... obit to be left with a G shock and IWC Mark Xvi. Trying very hard just to be content and not waste any more money now
Well said it is I have a smallish collection now but the cost and thousands of hours and research in wasted insane. If I showed a non qarxh person collection they would not believe the effort to get here. Take me back to 1 cheap fashion brand watch every 2 to 3 years anyday.
@@benjaminkeen7133I can resist everything, except... My lizard brain wants the shiny-shiny. My rational brain says, "it's an investment..." My partner looks on in pity.
this is so intimate in the personality perspective that might be slightly uncomfortable. sharing your sold collection is a brave step to sharing your current collection. thank you very much for sharing opinions on particular and very interesting pieces as well as for opening another door to yourself
Really love this. I imagine that lately the increasing "limited edition" and "limited sales window" situation is also resulting in a lot of mistake purchases b/c people are buying into hype/a sense that they need to act now even if they know deep down that it's not THE watch they want etc.
This is a very interesting idea for a video. Given your extensive watch owning background, it’s very interesting to hear why you bought and then sold many watches, such as the Rolex, Patek, and Lange watches.
Good point about DJ41 and how you didn't build memories with it because you wouldn't wear it during occasions such as traveling. I wonder if there was less threat of theft, it would have been different.
Thanks Mate! I have 2 big regrets: Cartier Santos Medium sold, to flashy for me, now i regret it. 2. Rolex Explorer 36, wanted to sold it via watchmaster. Then it got stolen from watchmaster...yea until now i didnt saw 1,- euro from the insurance...
Great episode! Love your honesty. I recently reviewed three years of Instagram posts seeing all the watches I used to own. Most I’m happy with my decisions to sell. Two regrets. Rolex Datejust 36 with oyster bracelet, fluted bezel and palm leaf motif in green. At the time I bought it because it was available and mostly unattainable. I tired of the palm leafs. Looking back, I wish I had it back. The other regret is selling my blue dial IWC Chronograph 41mm. I had a blue dial Big Pilot and a blue dial Big Pilot 46mm. It felt like blue dial overkill. I no longer have the Big Pilot 46mm and wish I had the chronograph back.
Great video. It made me think. I also had a 39mm Rolex explorer and thought I should love it but didn't really. I sold it and never looked back. I almost sold my 34mm air king that I have owned for a long time. I would have regretted that.
I too had the 39mm Explorer. Sold it after 6 months, just couldn't bond with it. Bought an older 36 and it clicked. Compared it to the latest 36 and no way would l swap. It felt like a lady dress watch and not a tool watch. Just added a polar Explorer2 from 96. Seems to be a good match
“Liked the idea of the watch “. After 7 months sold my Explorer 124270. Truly wanted to love my first and only Rolex, but simply couldn’t get over how diminutive it wore and looked on my wrist.
"It was TGV's fault." That was hilarious. It was his fault that I bought the Seiko SARB017 Alpinist in 2018. At least it still gets some wrist time. The watch I will never part with is an Omega mid-size Seamaster 300. It was my first luxury watch and I bought it in 1999. I have worn it everywhere, from the mountains and high deserts of Nevada to weddings and everything in-between.
I feel honoured to be the first viewer and seemingly the first commenter as well. This is a very interesting video concept and that sort of videos are why I am subscribed to your channel: it provides a different perspective. Thank you! Edit: As for my collection, I am very new to the hobby (It's been about 3 years but I haven't made many purchases) and very very much on the low end in terms of budget. My entire collection is worth under £300 (brand new prices as I bought them), and interestingly enough, the 2 watches I wear the most are the cheapest, both coming in at £30 each brand new. I haven't sold any of my watches, mainly because I don't see a reason to (there's no real cost to regain) and as such, I don't feel qualified to speak about that, but 2 out of my 5 watches have seen literally no use over the last 6 months or more, likely closer to a year.
Fascinating video. I rarely ever sell a watch so I don’t have any regrets. I do regret selling the 1973 Porsche 914 that I restored many years ago however. I won’t ever get something like that back.
😊 ! About the Porsche man aiaiaiai that was a real regret for sure man ! As about watch’s had only trade 2 for another ones 😉👌 And know got to wait stay still as the Watch and Wonders in Geneve is coming… bet some will go up but maybe always great deals looking forward for a Tudor Chronograph S&G just went to the AD saw all the 3 versions panda , reverse panda and the S&G to be honest was bit disappointed with the S&G one the Chronograph hand it’s very thin 😳 maybe Tudor launch newer version ! Them I’ll got to send few ones away love them but not many use… Sinn 105 UTC great and simple work horse watch but already have 2 “true GMT’s “ Tudor Pro amazing all day watch got the steel bracelet plus the hybrid super nice and such a difference just change bracelets completely good looking watch! Plus my Pelagos and BB Burgundy should bought a Ranger but have a Sinn 556 A not same but though piece a like I said got steel bracelet plus other ones amazing watch for the price!
This is so relatable as a watch hobbiest/enthusiast! Thanks for sharing. I regret buying: beaten and incomplete 16570 polar I regret selling: beaten and incomplete 16570 polar Very long story 😂
What a great idea! A negative "state of the watch". Surprised more people haven't thought of it For me I concur with many that it's impossible to learn and grow as a hobbyist without making mistakes. And for me the mistakes occur when I haven't mulled over a watch enough, from enough angles and use cases. Being a perfectionist, if I find one negative about something, it may ruin my perception of that thing. So I don't mind spending weeks, months even, over-analyzing to death a product against its opportunity cost
Really enjoyed the format of this episode… you continue to mix subjects, style, perspectives etc in a way that keeps the channel fresh and different to the watch world norm. Keep up the good work 👍….oh and yes, compromise purchases truly are the ones that really hurt on the watch collecting journey, 😂
Great video, it lets us see how emotive the watch collecting is! We are very much influenced by the UA-camrs. I’ve eventually learned to be less impulsive and a little bit more objective with my watch collecting journey.
Nice post! I was lucky enough in my time to own a Rolex Air-King Date in 1980, with a sensational slate grey dial. It cost just £300 then. I sold it on in 1984, and did not lose out on the deal but I miss it still to this day. Later on in 1988, I managed to get one of the last Rolex Explorer ref: 1016 watches left in the UK, for the princely sum of £610! What a watch and what was I doing selling it?! I did sell it in 1992, and still regret that decision. Finally, after buying a Rolex GMT 2 16710 in 1995, I found I just did not wear it enough and that went in 2006. It would appear that the 'about to be discontinued' rolos are the ones to consider first dear friends!
I haven't sold a watch before, and I hope I never need to. But it gets harder to add meaning to the collection the more I have. The most recent additions (still waiting to receive) are the Moonphase and Bel Canto from CW. I hope they bring as much, if not more, joy than my earlier acquisitions. Excellent videos!
That was a hugely helpful review as we learn far more from what we in hindsight do not like than from shouting about the great things we have. Keep up the good work - you provide a different style of channel that is unique among the many watch channels out there
That's an interesting take on a SOC video. To me, it's often easier to say what I don't like than what I do. So I could relate. I haven't sold any watches yet, but I've gifted some. My collection sits at 4 pieces now. Though I'd be fine with just 2. So I might be selling the other 2 down the road. Just need to figure out which ones.
The Calatrava/Nomos discussion was super helpful. I was thinking of buying a Calatrava 5196, then I was strongly drawn to the Nomos Ludwig (33 mm no less). I think I’ll stick with the Nomos because I too, am not really a dress watch kind of guy.
This was a wonderful idea for a video. It’s great to know thinking behind a collection and especially why certain watches leave. A recent podcast I heard had a similar concept that I found equally cool: if you had to find upgrade versions of your current watches, which would they be / which of your watches are already “end game” watches that you wouldn’t upgrade from?
I can relate a LOT to your collecting habits. I have a similar history of trying to replace and compare and contrast. Shame we can’t (or don’t want to) keep multiple versions of similar watches!
“One in One out” can be the best advice & principle for a watch collector. I also apply same approach for my shoes or shirts etc. I m giving them away for people who need. Great video thanks
Selling my 16570 in 2020 was my biggest regret. I bought it when they were unpopular and $3k and I will never afford it back. I think about it every day. Such is the journey. Great videos!!
Wow! I feel like I am watching myself in 10 years, hahaha. The degree of similarity in my taste of watches and your watch journey is insane! I literally have looked at all the watches you just mentioned with the intention of buying them at some point. Such an insightful video, because now I have the perspective of a more experienced person who lived through the different phases of watch collecting. Thank you!
I'd begun watch collecting about 20 years ago, with a flurry of purchases every 5 years or so, with themes like Accutrons, or watches with Valjouix movements, or Skagens, anyway thus year I blessed about a dozen or so guys with almost all of them - gave them away - any except some I received as gifts from family, are renewed the whole collection with some of the more current Omega, Grand Seiko, Hamilton Murph, Bulova precisionist line, and couldn't be happier and most importantly SATISFIED. Not buying (took a few months to curate this collection - ordered/returned) and just wearing now is comforting.
Great video thanks. Another video idea for you: How do you sell your watches? Where, what precautions do you take, etc? Same when buying a 2nd hand watch? What do you check, how do you pay?
Excellent video as always Mike. Turning the tables on the SOTC video, genius! So interesting to hear how your collecting journey has evolved. It makes me think about whether I have too many Watches. Keep up the great work brother. ✊
This video was incredibly helpful. I realise I don't ever want to buy a watch that I can technically afford (no need for credit) but would worry about wearing on holiday because of theft.
Really enjoyed this episode. I'm on a day off and puttering around watching youtube, and for some reason this hit the spot for me, and allowed me to relax. My sort-of answer to your question at the end: I got rid of two watches a couple of years ago. Since they weren't worth a lot of money, and since I never learned much about buying and selling things, I just decided to give them away. The immediate issue was that I had a daily-wearer gold-plated Seiko Kinetic with an unusual (to me) green dial that I liked and bought in the early 2000s, but once I fell out of the habit of wearing it, it did not fare well sitting in a drawer. The capacitor or battery tended to like being used, and not just sitting (at least I think that's what happened). In addition to this, I don't like the idea of collecting a dozen or so watches.... I like to see watches used and enjoyed by people. So, once I realized I couldn't keep it in good repair, and once I realized I was just stuck on deciding what to do with it, I just gave it to a local store to go ahead and sell, as they saw fit. At the same time I had a Pulsar solar mall watch that worked excellently for 20 years (I think it predated the Seiko) and I had not worn it much. It never needed a minute of maintenance since the day I bought it. I think it kept good time, AFAIK. It could not have cost me more than $60, and so I just gave that one away on the same day, kind of on impulse. I did kind of like it, but I wanted someone else to get enjoyment out of it, even if just as a cheap breakable daily wearer. In both cases, even though I think it was, overall, the right decision for me to get rid of both watches (regardless of prices or give-aways), I do sometimes regret both. There are a number of reasons here or there, when through a given day or month I'll sort of wish I could put one of them on again. --------- A few other accumulated comments: In this cell phone age, it's often said we don't actually need a watch, but I do think watches can help us be less rude in some business situations, and are easier to check for the time in some other hands on situations, where a cell phone is not accessible. Come to think of it, I've also bought a few wall-clocks over the last few years, which help actually tell the time in some home or work situations where I don't want to look at my phone or computer or TV screensaver. Another issue that comes to mind is I sometimes travel in a slightly dangerous urban neighborhood and, out of an abundance of caution, avoid all possible flashy clothing and watches. The cheap-but-quite-functional and not-horrible-looking mall-watch Pulsar though might have been good for that situation, though I might be kidding myself ... I think in a lot of situations, someone might look at one's wrist and project many multiples of value compared to what a watch is actually worth. Maybe if my existing Casio was not a huge 3-sensor type, then I could use it in that situation. But I do think I was guilty of giving away a perfectly functional solar watch that could have resumed a role as my daily-wearer under some more rugged use cases. That decision to give the two watches away left me with four watches. Two of those are light-powered, and, combined with the Seiko and Pulsar, stay with this theme of exploring unusual and hopefully sustainable power options in watches. I work in sustainable industry analysis, and so to me, that was probably what guided me to them. I might some day pick up a vintage thermal powered watch, but I'm not sure how well they really harvest energy, and they're hard to get, and with very limited selection. So, I'd probably end up giving it away again if I didn't wear it that much, especially if it had a battery or capacitor that liked to be used.
Super interesting, yet again! I must say I have never sold a watch, and I am not sure I will ever convince myself to do it. Truth is, I like all the watches I own, even if some more than others. I like your ideas of watching "growing" with memories or occasions. Some of my watches (like the Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean) I only wear when I am relaxed and have downtime (i.e never for work, even if I work from home). So that when I wear these watches, I know I am in relaxation mode. Others are the other way around: the minute I wear them, I know I have to focus on work or getting things done, and it kind of gives me the energy and the confidence. It's all self-imposed psycho tricks, but it kind of works for me. I get your point about wanting the Lange I, but I have to say the one you sold is absolutely gorgeous and I would never have sold it. Anyway, it's all very personal.
This is an incredible watch journey... You have owned some astounding pieces! I love the left field watches like the Nomos'es and the Sinn's! I cant wait to see what you actually own if you got rid of these gems! I only regret selling one watch and that was my grandfathers Omega Seamaster Jubilee (BA 196.750 MZ) I was young and stupid and needed the money at the time and man has that bothered me ever since. I have looked for it for years but have yet to find it. What's done is done I guess. 😞On another note I hope your wife is paying you "braai broodtjie tax" for borrowing that Black Bay haha!
If we were to compare UA-cam watch channels to the written word, this channel would be what I consider a classic novel and a lot of the other ones would be like comic books only. Thank you for that different perspective and tone.
Hahhhh! Our journey is so similar and the watches I’ve sold are for all of the same reasons you described. Thanks for making the video; we enthusiast are not alone. I always say - It’s a hard burden to carry 💪🏼⌚️ Ps - Love my Lange 1
Great video! Really good, out of the usual approach. I've sold many watches as well in the last 12 years since I've been into watches. Mostly to fund a watch I liked more than the one I was willing to part with as I had no deep emotional connection. I have 3 keeper watches, the ones my 3 kids will get when they are 25-30 years old. Keep up the great work and I still believe that you could do an awesome job with an IWC Mark lineage video. Cheers, Dan
One in and one out is the same rule I follow, although my budget is nowhere near yours. I own 5, in a five slot watch box my wife gifted me. I also have a strap collection. And even that is a lot for me. I haven't sold a watch yet - so far I have always given them away. Too many watches dilute a collection. You can tell from many of those SOTC videos that folks often own "filler" watches, or they have a lot of overlap in their collection (three black dial divers or something like that). Not to mention that when people have 10 or 20, it means they're not really wearing them.
Funny that you have a spreadsheet for watch wearing. I'm a new enthusiast and have spreadsheets for everything and I just made a spreadsheet for watch wearing the other day. Great minds etc. Or fools rarely differ
Fascinating. Really enjoyed seeing a lot of watches I wasn't familiar with. I've gone in pretty much the opposite direction - vintage, mostly dress watches and yellow gold. No regrets about selling the divers, GADAs and field watches which the internet tells you to have in your collection. Just not my cup of tea. There are still some I can't bring myself to sell even thigh they get little wear as they would be exorbitant to rebuy if my tastes change in future and were so cheap when I bought them - Seiko SKX007 and black SNK.
Thank you for sharing. My watch collection mirrors yours-at a significantly lower price point. Im lucky to have one “priceless” piece: a gold face Seiko Pogue worn by my father from the 70’s with fifty years of family history.
Good conversation about collecting and things to consider. I regret discarding my childhood Casios and Timex watches along with my high school graduation gift watch from my grandfather. I wasn’t interested in watches and didn’t know any better 😢
What a great SOTC variation! I enjoyed your journey and insights immensely: ) I too bought a 214270 (modern 36 ver) but rapidly moved it on- too expensive/dressy for a field watch. I'm much happier with my Speedbird III. I am gradually learning to follow my own preferences.
As a new collector and enthusiast (2 years), I have sold nothing...yet. My hesitation stems from not quite knowing which platforms to use for selling. If I may ask you (and all watching), which platforms have you used to sell your watches? Note: what I will be selling tend to be of an entry-level variety (e.g. Unimatic, Laco, etc.). Thanks for your help!
Good question: There’s chrono24 and ebay. Most countries will have some local online resellers marketplace but not all of them are “savoury”. If you’re a firs timer - find a local watch dealer that deals in second hand or go to an AD. You won’t get as good a price but you’ll have more security 😀
A fantastic video about what we encounter every day in our collecting journey. I don’t sell my watches and this is a problem. Perhaps it’s time to think the herd. The Panerai Due is a dud. I got the Luminor Quaranta which is a great 40mm everyday watch and boosts 100m WR which is absent in the Due.
It’s a personality thing. If you are by nature a hoarder, you probably don’t sell much. If you are more minimalist, less sentimental, you sell a lot. I’m in the later category, sold a lot of watches over the years - Tudor GMT, omega Seamaster, Rolex Explorer 39, Air King, Zenith El Primero. I’m just wearing a simple green dial Quartz PRX today.
The most rational, intelligent watch guy on YT still chases every pretty girl that walks by, just like the rest of us. It's comforting.
the level of overthinking on watches is insane
This comment made me chuckle. There is hope for us all!
@@lihanouYes. Very relatable.
never thought of it that way.... ooof... 😂😂
You make àlot of sense sir the sign of a true collector,I doff my non existent cap to you sir well done 👍
Much more useful than a state of the watch collection video. This explains the lifecycle of a watch purchase from birth to grave and the reasoning for the acquisition and disposal. Very helpful for those, like me, who would rather not cycle through many watches if better decision making can make that possible. Thank you.
Exactly
The compromise buy is the worst trap, in my opinion, and one most of us fall into. Either because you don't have the budget at the time or your target watch is nowhere to be had, you end up sinking money into a watch that 90% of the time you end up regretting buying. And most of the time it doesn't see any wrist time either because it just reminds you of what watch it is not.
Lets face is some watches will ALWAYS be out of reach for many of us (increasing prices, styles being discontinued before we have the money etc ), plus tastes change over time, plus new watches are constantly being released i.e. what seemed like a great purchase may in two years seem a 'compromise' when a new watch is released - but of course there is no guarantee that that 'perfect' watch will ever be released.
Nicely expressed.
I agree. I also think a lot of people accumulate a large number of cheap watches when they might get much more satisfaction from 1 more expensive one.
So true.
"It was TGV's fault." I have no idea why, but that cracks me up.🤣
Is that the train? Was it sold on them? I don't quite get it...
@@silvoslafTGV is the name of the guy who run the Urban Gentry UA-cam channel, an influential figure in YT watch community.
@@silvoslaf...TGV = The Urban Gentry ... Another popular watch youtuber.
@@silvoslafTGV is the name of the guy who run the Urban Gentry UA-cam channel.
I’m sure it wasn’t TGV himself, but his famous T-REX that made him buy it 😂😅
What a fantastic video. I wish more watch UA-camrs would release a comprehensive video like this. I’ve also enjoyed videos explaining why a collector ended up selling a particular watch they had pined for for a long time.
Glad you liked it - was a little unsure whether it would resonate 😃😃
Invaluable. The one in, one out rule is tough. I giggled over the Excel spreadsheet but remain impressed
Yeah. I know - very geeky, but I stand by my geekiness. Cheers 😀
every watch tuber should do this video.
I sold a Rolex Skydweller, a neo-vintage explorer 2, Rolex Datejust 41 and Omega Seamaster in the last year and I don’t miss them at all, I’m happy that the people who bought them, love them. Great video
Fascinating video 👍. Well done for admitting TGV influenced you, I love his videos, but not his taste in watches. I don't regret any I have sold, but then I've only sold two! I've given away more, but when they cost under £50 there's not much point selling 😁
Honestly? I enjoy TGV. He’s “old guard” and is idiosyncratic AF but he puts effort into his videos and stands by what he is 😀
The mention of an excel sheet had me chuckle for a bit, but after a bit of consideration I'm now thinking I might pick up on that. Might be very fun to look back to the wearing habits from months or years prior.
Yeah, if anyone didn’t know he was in business, that would be the tip-off.
I’m thinking about writing an iPhone app to track collection and wear.
I like this channel, and the host is great. But having an excel to record the usage of his watches, made me think that the guy is losing his marbles a little. I say it with love, humor, and respect though. ❤
I had the same thought... seemed over the top, but I can see the sense of it.
@@WestCoastAce27 I track my collection history on iPhone notes 🙂 I never tracked wear and I don’t think I would…but having a history of ownership with pics and dates in an app would be good imo 😉
@@WestCoastAce27if you make that app consider adding an option to track accuracy. What day did u sync it. +/- x seconds for each day.
The watch collecting experience is unique to every individual. There are no mistakes, just that everyone’s tastes change as we mature. My style of collecting today is to add a watch that I want to my “buy list”. Then I go back and review every so often. If the watch appeals to me again then I watch it until it gets to the “right price” that I determine to be right. I find that some of the watches on my list from last year no longer appeal to me, so I remove them.
That is a great approach.
Mistake purchases are part of the journey. They help you really understand your own tastes and style. Pretty much unavoidable at some point and just part of the hobby. I only buy used watches, so the financial risk of buying the wrong watch is muted quite a bit. In the coming years, I plan on purchasing watch brands that I currently don't own just to see what I might be missing. Some will be mistakes, but if I buy them used it's no big deal.
it's a big reason why enjoying the "entry level" is a great way to learn what you like
Exactly. You don't learn from avoiding mistakes 😃
I've never sold a watch. After watching this, my small collection of 10-12 watches, with only 5 that cost over $300, and only one over $2000, doesn't seem so obsessive and expensive. One of my "nice" watches is a dress watch (Seiko SARB065), and it hardly ever gets wear, so I don't seriously considering buying more, although I still like looking at dress watches with a classic vintage style. I continue to buy $30- $50 Timex's as daily beaters and for whitewater kayaking. I really like their "indiglo" feature - it's way more functional than lume. Expensive watches are jewelry that also tell time for me.
I'm with you, I have never sold a watch. My daily is also a Timex, the Hodinkee Waterbury Limited.... if you like Timex's (I do, my grandfather wore nothing but Timex's) you should check it out.
My Timex Ironman is the go to watch for kayaking and mountain biking. That's all you need out there! Love the SARB and looking for one as my next purchase
same here, about 10 watches in 30 years (never sold one). I roll my eyes when people are rationalise buying loads of stuff as their "collecting journey"
Funny he said "Soulless" about the Rolex he sold. After buying and selling and buying and selling again That perfectly described my Journey with Rolex. It's a very good watch in a very Over The Top Marketing and Mythological Hyped way. They wore like an Anchor....physically and Mentally.
My most expensive watches are under $3000.00 And I WEAR them. The majority are under $1500.00 and Again I Wear them.
My most Valuable Watch? My Grandfathers 1960's Timex....scratches and all and YES it took a Licking And It STILL Keeps Ticking!
I lost my timex . loved that watch
shifting taste with age and emotional bonding with a specific watch are the main two factors fighting for keeping or selling a watch .
I reget selling my PAM00024, I sold it because People start hating on Panerai. After selling it I learned that I dont care what people think I want a PAM🎉
LMAO 😂😂. Don't hate the PAM!!
I really enjoy this channel. Very clean presentation without all of the hype and sizzle. The pivotal point in my watch collecting journey was when I started keeping and buying watches that I like vs what I’m supposed to like. Once this lightbulb went off…the churn in my collection slowed…and I was much happier and content
I resonated with a lot of this and have made many of the same "mistakes". I'm getting better at buying what I like, what sparks joy, and pleases my eye and my soul. I have watches that are less than $300 that give more more joy than others I have for five figures. I don't have a lot of regrets but mine would be an Omega Aquaterra--bought it b/c everyone said we are supposed to. And I regret selling my Grand Seiko SBGJ217. A boring watch for others but an absolute stunner for me. I thought I had too many dress watches--I don't really need any dress watches in my line of work. But that dial, finishing, and movement brought a light of joy. I still gaze at the pictures I took...sigh
I also bought some watches which were loved by other collectors (mostly vintage Omegas), and then I realised that I bought them to feel part of those collectors circle, but they didn’t mean anything to me. Most collectors friends couldn’t understand why I sold them.
It would be interesting to have the logic why you have certain watches in your collection and what they represent for you.
I regret selling a very cheap, but handsome, “TV case” Diesel watch. It was a gift long ago. I recently re-purchased the same model & put it on a fancy buffalo leather strap, and I’m happy it’s back. I’ll now always keep watches that were gifted to me by friends, family and loved ones.
I wish I can do the same, I.e. Sell watches that I don't use. I just don't have the courage to do it 😢
Great video. Now I want to see your keepers
70+ watches ... Haven't sold one yet (given 3-4 away to family as i improved that style of watch) ... I enjoy having multiple brands, multiple styles in my collection ... While some get more wear than others i still enjoy them ALL.
That said to each their own collection style and technique and criteria that is what makes this hobby great - the variety.
Every sale that I ve made was because of the next experience I was looking for. It is like traveling around the world. And once you have seen too many countries, you start to visit those that really comfort you. After nearly 20 years on my watch journey, I do not see the regret of buying or selling a watch. If you are buying you buy the experience. And if you are selling it, it is ok that taste can change. Watchcollecting is an emotional hobby from the heart and your brain constantly wants to put the results of your decisions under a rational behavior.
Really interesting and honest look at collecting philosophy from someone who obviously can afford some of the luxury pieces but not afraid to go for the lower premium, lesser known ones if it suits his journey. My own budget is a little more geared towards the budget end of the market and when it comes to flipping a watch I tend to be a bit mercenary - if I let it go it was not meant to be. I have rebought a couple of watches in the past but have only sold them again only cementing my original decision.
Mike, I have been following your videos for qiute a while now and I really find them standing out from the usual watch videos. I like the way you look at both, Brands and Watches, while not being blinded by widespread brand perception. Always fun and entertaining. I have been collecting watches for over 30 years now and like you - bought some, sold some. What I regret to have sold is the 4940 Girard Perregaux Traveller II, Time-Zone + Alarm. I did even use the alarm function when travelling. ( using the second time zone though was quite cumbersome) I sold it to make space for something new ( don´t even recall for which) - but anyway: I miss it. best from Berlin. Andre PS: my latest is the Moser Pioneer 40 mm, which I love - and plan to keep.
Thanks 😀
As for the moser? Hope you do keep it 👍
Very nice video that resonates with us that have this watch disease. Sold my Tudor bb 41 Heritage red bezel when I purchased a Tudor bb chrono reverse panda. I miss it all the time and have considered repurchasing but will not if I stick to my guns, maybe? A watch that I really really wanted but after purchase only wore a couple times? A Longines big eye.
The reason I never have sold my red bezel Tudor Black Bay Heritage is because everyone I read that has sold the watch has regretted doing so. I almost sold it but glad I didn’t because recently I have reconnected with the watch.
The honesty is refreshing!
Glad it resonated 😀
Congratulations on the authenticity of the channel.
After spending a lot of time watching mainstream videos…
I found this channel and it ticked all the right boxes. Congrats!
thanks - Glad you like it 😊😊
Great advice. Now time for the real watch collection video!
Thank you for your thoughts here! It's sort of works as a 'top tips before you buy a watch' kind of video. Very insightful!
Glad it was helpful! 😃😃
I love your channel, I hope you grow more and more, you deserve it!
Thank you so much! 😃😃
Thank you. Your video caused me think over my watch decisions. Unlike you, I don’t have the discipline to sell the watch’s I don’t wear. I retired so my dress watches don’t see much action other than “date nights.” My sport watches are in a rotation except during home projects, then the G Shocks get their moment in the sun. The only discipline I have is holding out for watches I really want to own, but they don’t come available often. (A lot of watches tempt me during my wait, but I know I won’t like them as they will remind me of compromising my goals.) As a rule, I have learned not to sell my watches, guitars, and guns. I think of when I violated my rule and get sick when I see what they have done in value.
Possible idea- The hardship of connecting emotionally with Rolex might be coming from the deep knowledge that you can sell it with profit.
Very possible.
The mental gymnastics my watch buying logic requires deserves a gold medal. Glad to know I’m not the only one that would be standing on that podium.
This watch hobby really is an illness honestly.... in 3 years I've sold three Speedmasters , two Aqua Terras, an IWC, two Hamiltons, two Seikos, given away a bunch of Casios... obit to be left with a G shock and IWC Mark Xvi.
Trying very hard just to be content and not waste any more money now
There are a lot of business models out there these days that hook into overconsumption and an essential life skill is being able to resist.
@@benjaminkeen7133 totally agree. I'm happy with 2 cool watches.... for now ha ha
Well said it is I have a smallish collection now but the cost and thousands of hours and research in wasted insane. If I showed a non qarxh person collection they would not believe the effort to get here. Take me back to 1 cheap fashion brand watch every 2 to 3 years anyday.
@@daveLin104 I know...I think less is more as they say.... keep it simple. Quality
@@benjaminkeen7133I can resist everything, except...
My lizard brain wants the shiny-shiny. My rational brain says, "it's an investment..." My partner looks on in pity.
this is so intimate in the personality perspective that might be slightly uncomfortable. sharing your sold collection is a brave step to sharing your current collection. thank you very much for sharing opinions on particular and very interesting pieces as well as for opening another door to yourself
Really love this. I imagine that lately the increasing "limited edition" and "limited sales window" situation is also resulting in a lot of mistake purchases b/c people are buying into hype/a sense that they need to act now even if they know deep down that it's not THE watch they want etc.
Great idea! Thanks for taking us through your journey!
Thanks for watching! 😃
This is a very interesting idea for a video. Given your extensive watch owning background, it’s very interesting to hear why you bought and then sold many watches, such as the Rolex, Patek, and Lange watches.
Great video, I wish more people did this style of video. I still have my Stowa Flieger 40mm, definitely waiting until I can grab a speedy
Right on 😀
Good point about DJ41 and how you didn't build memories with it because you wouldn't wear it during occasions such as traveling. I wonder if there was less threat of theft, it would have been different.
Perhaps.... With the state of Rolex, it'll likely always be a challenge 😃😃
Thanks Mate!
I have 2 big regrets:
Cartier Santos Medium sold, to flashy for me, now i regret it.
2. Rolex Explorer 36, wanted to sold it via watchmaster. Then it got stolen from watchmaster...yea until now i didnt saw 1,- euro from the insurance...
Eesh… that sucks… 🥲
Great episode! Love your honesty. I recently reviewed three years of Instagram posts seeing all the watches I used to own. Most I’m happy with my decisions to sell. Two regrets. Rolex Datejust 36 with oyster bracelet, fluted bezel and palm leaf motif in green. At the time I bought it because it was available and mostly unattainable. I tired of the palm leafs. Looking back, I wish I had it back. The other regret is selling my blue dial IWC Chronograph 41mm. I had a blue dial Big Pilot and a blue dial Big Pilot 46mm. It felt like blue dial overkill. I no longer have the Big Pilot 46mm and wish I had the chronograph back.
I really appreciate your candidness in your videos! This is quickly becoming one of my favorite watch channels
Happy to hear it 😀
Great video. Thank you for sharing. This is a side of watch collecting I rarely hear about.
Thanks 😃
Great video. It made me think. I also had a 39mm Rolex explorer and thought I should love it but didn't really. I sold it and never looked back. I almost sold my 34mm air king that I have owned for a long time. I would have regretted that.
I too had the 39mm Explorer. Sold it after 6 months, just couldn't bond with it. Bought an older 36 and it clicked. Compared it to the latest 36 and no way would l swap. It felt like a lady dress watch and not a tool watch. Just added a polar Explorer2 from 96. Seems to be a good match
Some watches seem right but when you have them they just end being “ok”.
“Liked the idea of the watch “. After 7 months sold my Explorer 124270. Truly wanted to love my first and only Rolex, but simply couldn’t get over how diminutive it wore and looked on my wrist.
You make alot of sense my friend, every watch has a story,the sign of a true collectior , well done sir well done..,.....
Thanks a ton 😀
"It was TGV's fault." That was hilarious. It was his fault that I bought the Seiko SARB017 Alpinist in 2018. At least it still gets some wrist time.
The watch I will never part with is an Omega mid-size Seamaster 300. It was my first luxury watch and I bought it in 1999. I have worn it everywhere, from the mountains and high deserts of Nevada to weddings and everything in-between.
The man has influencer power. Like it or not 😀😀👍
I feel honoured to be the first viewer and seemingly the first commenter as well. This is a very interesting video concept and that sort of videos are why I am subscribed to your channel: it provides a different perspective. Thank you!
Edit: As for my collection, I am very new to the hobby (It's been about 3 years but I haven't made many purchases) and very very much on the low end in terms of budget. My entire collection is worth under £300 (brand new prices as I bought them), and interestingly enough, the 2 watches I wear the most are the cheapest, both coming in at £30 each brand new. I haven't sold any of my watches, mainly because I don't see a reason to (there's no real cost to regain) and as such, I don't feel qualified to speak about that, but 2 out of my 5 watches have seen literally no use over the last 6 months or more, likely closer to a year.
Thanks a ton - and good on you for being first 😃😃😃
Pretty diverse collection. Clearly you thought about this often and have had great reasons to change your collection. This journey we’re on.
Fascinating video. I rarely ever sell a watch so I don’t have any regrets. I do regret selling the 1973 Porsche 914 that I restored many years ago however. I won’t ever get something like that back.
😊 ! About the Porsche man aiaiaiai that was a real regret for sure man !
As about watch’s had only trade 2 for another ones 😉👌
And know got to wait stay still as the Watch and Wonders in Geneve is coming… bet some will go up but maybe always great deals looking forward for a Tudor Chronograph S&G just went to the AD saw all the 3 versions panda , reverse panda and the S&G to be honest was bit disappointed with the S&G one the Chronograph hand it’s very thin 😳 maybe Tudor launch newer version !
Them I’ll got to send few ones away love them but not many use… Sinn 105 UTC great and simple work horse watch but already have 2 “true GMT’s “ Tudor Pro amazing all day watch got the steel bracelet plus the hybrid super nice and such a difference just change bracelets completely good looking watch! Plus my Pelagos and BB Burgundy should bought a Ranger but have a Sinn 556 A not same but though piece a like I said got steel bracelet plus other ones amazing watch for the price!
This is so relatable as a watch hobbiest/enthusiast! Thanks for sharing.
I regret buying: beaten and incomplete 16570 polar
I regret selling: beaten and incomplete 16570 polar
Very long story 😂
LOL this hobby
lol... instantly curious...
What a great idea! A negative "state of the watch". Surprised more people haven't thought of it
For me I concur with many that it's impossible to learn and grow as a hobbyist without making mistakes. And for me the mistakes occur when I haven't mulled over a watch enough, from enough angles and use cases. Being a perfectionist, if I find one negative about something, it may ruin my perception of that thing. So I don't mind spending weeks, months even, over-analyzing to death a product against its opportunity cost
I’ve never sold a watch because I never settle.
I only buy what knocks my socks off.
No regrets.
Really enjoyed the format of this episode… you continue to mix subjects, style, perspectives etc in a way that keeps the channel fresh and different to the watch world norm. Keep up the good work 👍….oh and yes, compromise purchases truly are the ones that really hurt on the watch collecting journey, 😂
Thanks - I just try to do something I find interesting, and am just overjoyed that others find it interesting as well. 😀
Great video, it lets us see how emotive the watch collecting is! We are very much influenced by the UA-camrs. I’ve eventually learned to be less impulsive and a little bit more objective with my watch collecting journey.
Nice post! I was lucky enough in my time to own a Rolex Air-King Date in 1980, with a sensational slate grey dial. It cost just £300 then. I sold it on in 1984, and did not lose out on the deal but I miss it still to this day. Later on in 1988, I managed to get one of the last Rolex Explorer ref: 1016 watches left in the UK, for the princely sum of £610! What a watch and what was I doing selling it?! I did sell it in 1992, and still regret that decision. Finally, after buying a Rolex GMT 2 16710 in 1995, I found I just did not wear it enough and that went in 2006. It would appear that the 'about to be discontinued' rolos are the ones to consider first dear friends!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one with a spreadsheet.
Can't live without it 😂😂
I haven't sold a watch before, and I hope I never need to. But it gets harder to add meaning to the collection the more I have.
The most recent additions (still waiting to receive) are the Moonphase and Bel Canto from CW. I hope they bring as much, if not more, joy than my earlier acquisitions.
Excellent videos!
Thanks 😀
What’s your verdict on the moonphase? Haven’t seen it in the metal
@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch haven't received it yet! What attracted me was aventurine and a great interpretation of the complication.
Just out of curiosity how many watches do you currently own and do you have a 1 in and 1 out policy?
Lekker way of assessing watches and purpose. Thanks Mike for making this video
This inverse perspective is quite refreshing.
That was a hugely helpful review as we learn far more from what we in hindsight do not like than from shouting about the great things we have. Keep up the good work - you provide a different style of channel that is unique among the many watch channels out there
Wow that was a great, different take. Also really helped me gain perspective on a few of them that I want.
That's an interesting take on a SOC video. To me, it's often easier to say what I don't like than what I do. So I could relate.
I haven't sold any watches yet, but I've gifted some. My collection sits at 4 pieces now. Though I'd be fine with just 2. So I might be selling the other 2 down the road. Just need to figure out which ones.
Glad it resonated. I wanted to do something different and wasn't sure it would fly, so am happy it did 😃😃
Accent plus voice crunchiness makes you so smart. How do you bust out such epic voice crunch?
Haha
Vocal fry. But vocal fry can make one person sound smart and another incredibly vapid.
Lowering one’s voice can make people sound more authoritative
Digital enhancement 😂😂
I only regret selling my Tudor BB ETA burgundy bezel. I wish I took it slower and thought it over a bit more.
The Calatrava/Nomos discussion was super helpful. I was thinking of buying a Calatrava 5196, then I was strongly drawn to the Nomos Ludwig (33 mm no less). I think I’ll stick with the Nomos because I too, am not really a dress watch kind of guy.
That Patek logo has a strong draw, but I at least realised that the watch underneath wasn’t for me 😀
This was a wonderful idea for a video. It’s great to know thinking behind a collection and especially why certain watches leave. A recent podcast I heard had a similar concept that I found equally cool: if you had to find upgrade versions of your current watches, which would they be / which of your watches are already “end game” watches that you wouldn’t upgrade from?
I can relate a LOT to your collecting habits. I have a similar history of trying to replace and compare and contrast.
Shame we can’t (or don’t want to) keep multiple versions of similar watches!
“One in One out” can be the best advice & principle for a watch collector. I also apply same approach for my shoes or shirts etc. I m giving them away for people who need. Great video thanks
When it comes to Squale 1521. I will be getting the blasted version. You had an excel sheet of how much you worn a watch. The nerd meter just broke
Off the charts apparently 😂
Selling my 16570 in 2020 was my biggest regret. I bought it when they were unpopular and $3k and I will never afford it back. I think about it every day. Such is the journey. Great videos!!
New subscriber. Absolutely enjoy how logical and articulate you are in presenting your thoughts and opinions.
Welcome aboard 😀
Wow! I feel like I am watching myself in 10 years, hahaha. The degree of similarity in my taste of watches and your watch journey is insane! I literally have looked at all the watches you just mentioned with the intention of buying them at some point. Such an insightful video, because now I have the perspective of a more experienced person who lived through the different phases of watch collecting. Thank you!
I'd begun watch collecting about 20 years ago, with a flurry of purchases every 5 years or so, with themes like Accutrons, or watches with Valjouix movements, or Skagens, anyway thus year I blessed about a dozen or so guys with almost all of them - gave them away - any except some I received as gifts from family, are renewed the whole collection with some of the more current Omega, Grand Seiko, Hamilton Murph, Bulova precisionist line, and couldn't be happier and most importantly SATISFIED. Not buying (took a few months to curate this collection - ordered/returned) and just wearing now is comforting.
Great video! I regret selling my first automatic watch, Oris Aquis Blue Wave. I wore it for a long time and now I miss it
Great video thanks. Another video idea for you: How do you sell your watches? Where, what precautions do you take, etc? Same when buying a 2nd hand watch? What do you check, how do you pay?
Thanks for the idea! 😀
Def the best watch youtuber right now. My main takeaway is you must be great at sales! Cant imagine its easy to sell all these watches over time ;)
I hate sales.... Used to, way back but it's way to much work 😂
Excellent video as always Mike. Turning the tables on the SOTC video, genius!
So interesting to hear how your collecting journey has evolved. It makes me think about whether I have too many Watches. Keep up the great work brother. ✊
This video was incredibly helpful. I realise I don't ever want to buy a watch that I can technically afford (no need for credit) but would worry about wearing on holiday because of theft.
Really enjoyed this episode. I'm on a day off and puttering around watching youtube, and for some reason this hit the spot for me, and allowed me to relax.
My sort-of answer to your question at the end:
I got rid of two watches a couple of years ago. Since they weren't worth a lot of money, and since I never learned much about buying and selling things, I just decided to give them away. The immediate issue was that I had a daily-wearer gold-plated Seiko Kinetic with an unusual (to me) green dial that I liked and bought in the early 2000s, but once I fell out of the habit of wearing it, it did not fare well sitting in a drawer. The capacitor or battery tended to like being used, and not just sitting (at least I think that's what happened). In addition to this, I don't like the idea of collecting a dozen or so watches.... I like to see watches used and enjoyed by people. So, once I realized I couldn't keep it in good repair, and once I realized I was just stuck on deciding what to do with it, I just gave it to a local store to go ahead and sell, as they saw fit.
At the same time I had a Pulsar solar mall watch that worked excellently for 20 years (I think it predated the Seiko) and I had not worn it much. It never needed a minute of maintenance since the day I bought it. I think it kept good time, AFAIK. It could not have cost me more than $60, and so I just gave that one away on the same day, kind of on impulse. I did kind of like it, but I wanted someone else to get enjoyment out of it, even if just as a cheap breakable daily wearer.
In both cases, even though I think it was, overall, the right decision for me to get rid of both watches (regardless of prices or give-aways), I do sometimes regret both. There are a number of reasons here or there, when through a given day or month I'll sort of wish I could put one of them on again.
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A few other accumulated comments:
In this cell phone age, it's often said we don't actually need a watch, but I do think watches can help us be less rude in some business situations, and are easier to check for the time in some other hands on situations, where a cell phone is not accessible. Come to think of it, I've also bought a few wall-clocks over the last few years, which help actually tell the time in some home or work situations where I don't want to look at my phone or computer or TV screensaver.
Another issue that comes to mind is I sometimes travel in a slightly dangerous urban neighborhood and, out of an abundance of caution, avoid all possible flashy clothing and watches. The cheap-but-quite-functional and not-horrible-looking mall-watch Pulsar though might have been good for that situation, though I might be kidding myself ... I think in a lot of situations, someone might look at one's wrist and project many multiples of value compared to what a watch is actually worth. Maybe if my existing Casio was not a huge 3-sensor type, then I could use it in that situation. But I do think I was guilty of giving away a perfectly functional solar watch that could have resumed a role as my daily-wearer under some more rugged use cases.
That decision to give the two watches away left me with four watches. Two of those are light-powered, and, combined with the Seiko and Pulsar, stay with this theme of exploring unusual and hopefully sustainable power options in watches. I work in sustainable industry analysis, and so to me, that was probably what guided me to them.
I might some day pick up a vintage thermal powered watch, but I'm not sure how well they really harvest energy, and they're hard to get, and with very limited selection. So, I'd probably end up giving it away again if I didn't wear it that much, especially if it had a battery or capacitor that liked to be used.
Reading your comment, I’m just happy that my video resonated and sent you off on a tangent 😀
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍👍👍
Thanks @@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch
I appreciate the response.
Super interesting, yet again! I must say I have never sold a watch, and I am not sure I will ever convince myself to do it. Truth is, I like all the watches I own, even if some more than others. I like your ideas of watching "growing" with memories or occasions. Some of my watches (like the Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean) I only wear when I am relaxed and have downtime (i.e never for work, even if I work from home). So that when I wear these watches, I know I am in relaxation mode. Others are the other way around: the minute I wear them, I know I have to focus on work or getting things done, and it kind of gives me the energy and the confidence. It's all self-imposed psycho tricks, but it kind of works for me. I get your point about wanting the Lange I, but I have to say the one you sold is absolutely gorgeous and I would never have sold it. Anyway, it's all very personal.
This is an incredible watch journey... You have owned some astounding pieces! I love the left field watches like the Nomos'es and the Sinn's! I cant wait to see what you actually own if you got rid of these gems! I only regret selling one watch and that was my grandfathers Omega Seamaster Jubilee (BA 196.750 MZ) I was young and stupid and needed the money at the time and man has that bothered me ever since. I have looked for it for years but have yet to find it. What's done is done I guess. 😞On another note I hope your wife is paying you "braai broodtjie tax" for borrowing that Black Bay haha!
If we were to compare UA-cam watch channels to the written word, this channel would be what I consider a classic novel and a lot of the other ones would be like comic books only.
Thank you for that different perspective and tone.
Hahhhh! Our journey is so similar and the watches I’ve sold are for all of the same reasons you described. Thanks for making the video; we enthusiast are not alone. I always say - It’s a hard burden to carry 💪🏼⌚️
Ps - Love my Lange 1
Great video! Really good, out of the usual approach.
I've sold many watches as well in the last 12 years since I've been into watches. Mostly to fund a watch I liked more than the one I was willing to part with as I had no deep emotional connection.
I have 3 keeper watches, the ones my 3 kids will get when they are 25-30 years old.
Keep up the great work and I still believe that you could do an awesome job with an IWC Mark lineage video.
Cheers,
Dan
One in and one out is the same rule I follow, although my budget is nowhere near yours. I own 5, in a five slot watch box my wife gifted me. I also have a strap collection. And even that is a lot for me. I haven't sold a watch yet - so far I have always given them away. Too many watches dilute a collection. You can tell from many of those SOTC videos that folks often own "filler" watches, or they have a lot of overlap in their collection (three black dial divers or something like that). Not to mention that when people have 10 or 20, it means they're not really wearing them.
Funny that you have a spreadsheet for watch wearing. I'm a new enthusiast and have spreadsheets for everything and I just made a spreadsheet for watch wearing the other day. Great minds etc. Or fools rarely differ
My wife thinks I need therapy... 😂
Fascinating. Really enjoyed seeing a lot of watches I wasn't familiar with.
I've gone in pretty much the opposite direction - vintage, mostly dress watches and yellow gold.
No regrets about selling the divers, GADAs and field watches which the internet tells you to have in your collection. Just not my cup of tea.
There are still some I can't bring myself to sell even thigh they get little wear as they would be exorbitant to rebuy if my tastes change in future and were so cheap when I bought them - Seiko SKX007 and black SNK.
We all take a step down a different path when it comes to collecting. That’s prt of what I find fascinating 😀
Thank you for sharing. My watch collection mirrors yours-at a significantly lower price point. Im lucky to have one “priceless” piece: a gold face Seiko Pogue worn by my father from the 70’s with fifty years of family history.
Good conversation about collecting and things to consider. I regret discarding my childhood Casios and Timex watches along with my high school graduation gift watch from my grandfather. I wasn’t interested in watches and didn’t know any better 😢
What a great SOTC variation! I enjoyed your journey and insights immensely: )
I too bought a 214270 (modern 36 ver) but rapidly moved it on- too expensive/dressy for a field watch. I'm much happier with my Speedbird III. I am gradually learning to follow my own preferences.
No such thing as a mistake; only a learning experience!
Bingo 😀😀
As a new collector and enthusiast (2 years), I have sold nothing...yet. My hesitation stems from not quite knowing which platforms to use for selling. If I may ask you (and all watching), which platforms have you used to sell your watches? Note: what I will be selling tend to be of an entry-level variety (e.g. Unimatic, Laco, etc.). Thanks for your help!
Good question:
There’s chrono24 and ebay. Most countries will have some local online resellers marketplace but not all of them are “savoury”.
If you’re a firs timer - find a local watch dealer that deals in second hand or go to an AD. You won’t get as good a price but you’ll have more security 😀
“Why did I sell many of my watches?” Well Sir the answer is simple, I’m an idiot. I miss my 1998 transition Speedmaster.
Lol. Can’t argue with that 😂
A fantastic video about what we encounter every day in our collecting journey. I don’t sell my watches and this is a problem. Perhaps it’s time to think the herd. The Panerai Due is a dud. I got the Luminor Quaranta which is a great 40mm everyday watch and boosts 100m WR which is absent in the Due.
Really interesting set of reflections- thanks for this video.
My pleasure! 😀
It’s a personality thing. If you are by nature a hoarder, you probably don’t sell much. If you are more minimalist, less sentimental, you sell a lot. I’m in the later category, sold a lot of watches over the years - Tudor GMT, omega Seamaster, Rolex Explorer 39, Air King, Zenith El Primero. I’m just wearing a simple green dial Quartz PRX today.
Great to see your watches and hear your reasoning and regrets etc.
Not many are my thing, but that's what's great about watches IMO ; )