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Got a Reverso medium thin (I’m a smaller guy) for the birth of my first son and then a Master Geographic from the secondary market because I wanted to the smaller 39mm size. I had a soft spot for the brand. It was close to my heart because they had offerings and heritage that could be purchased by an average guy. It made me feel like “Hey, I can have nice things too.” I’m a tad bitter after the price increase. We could have done great things together.

Well said a lot of people now a days are brand collector's not watch collector's.

I have discovered that my favorite Ali express watches are their more original designs. Other than those I only consider models that are no longer produced by the original manufacturer, or to test a style of watch I’m unsure of.

Meaby Grand Seiko is Meh from marketing perspective, BUT WOW froma look perspective and double WOW from technology perspective. I am saying this as proud Grand Seiko ovner. Best Wishes

you didnt include the rolex cellini a beautiful underated moonphase watch

If prices drop to msrp or below I wanna see how many so called watch enthusiasts and collectors there will be lol It’s all gonna sit on shelves

It looks like a Rolex - and is cheaper. Whats not to like? (barf!)

Tudor is bad

Absolutely great news. I’ll be incredibly glad to get rid of the grey market dealers and flippers. Watches should not be seen as an investment. It’s a piece of jewellery simple as. I’ll happily “lose” money on my watches because I buy what I like and don’t buy to sell.

I think you missed the intent behind "What would you consider a good watch?" I think you're right about any watch from a reputable brand is going to create a good watch. For new collectors, however, I think the question should focus on how to determine an actual quality watch from a reputable brand vs. a watch from a fashion company like MVMT. Those watches are not good. They're made with bad components and cheap movements that are not designed to last. That's how I interpreted the question.

You will also sell some watches you’ll regret selling.

I agree with a distinction between a tool and a luxury. The Seiko and Citizen dive watches are "beater tool" divers that are great for function but don't hold the prestige of a Sub which may never see a pool, much less open waters. The automatic field watches may not be as accurate as a quartz, so the Timex may be more accurate and cheap, but the automatic Hamilton ensures operational functionality without dying. To me, the Murph is attractive, functional, and still budget friendly. The Ranger is lovely, but to what function? The Ranger is not as prestigious as an Explorer and has no additional value over the Murph. I truly enjoy the value (cost versus function and appearance) of a watch for the intended use.

There's a problem with the premise. If your looking for an alternative to Rolex you really want a Rolex. There is no alternative. by definition. If you want an accurate, solid, beutiful dive watch with a blue face other than A Rolex for example there are lots. I'm wearing one.

The watch market is dead, people don’t have the money these days to spend it on luxury watches. People are focusing on keeping a roof over their heads.

Another well thought out video. I keep coming back to Sinn around this price point. I already have a Tissot. lol

Well, the average Tudor customer bases their buy-or-wait decision a LOT more on their current cost of living than does a Rolex or Patek customer, so a lot of this is due to inflation chewing up our disposable income. With costs way up for gas, food, mortgage payments & energy costs to heat and cool a home.....its no wonder that near luxury watches are going to get hit worse than the luxury and ultra-luxury spaces.

I got Cartier Santos and I hate that it gains 10 seconds per day. Even my Vostok watches game 2 to 3 seconds per day

This feels like a bit of a skewed tracking bracket... 2021 was the peak high for the watch market, and unprecedented to say the least. Im not certain, but I think if you removed the last couple of years and compared the market now with the market in 2019 (for example) I think we would see much less volatility... not to mention that before covid, watches on the secondary market were rarely worth more than retail. IMO we hit a bubble and it burst. Now were stabilizing and moving back to the way things were for decades prior to the pandemic... just my two cents. Love your videos, keep up the great work!

How about the Airain type 20 Furtivite? It’s over the $2000 point, at €3250, but if I could, I’d consider it as a completely mechanical flyback watch.

I buy watches I like. If they are not for sale I buy something else or nothing. I never bought for a higher price from a secondary dealer to get something quicker. This makes no sense to me. Rolex is defiantly ruining their brand by selling primarily to resellers instead of customers who want to wear the watches. But I suppose a gray market dealer is an easier client after all.

Really Enjoyed listening to you while having my daily bike exercise! Thanks for great episode

The title should read "Is a Rolex a mugs Tudor?"

rolex, overhyped, overpriced, banal, middle of the road watches for the sheep with no imagination.

Quartz Crisis 2.0. If mechanical watch makers don't go the smart watch route they are done.

Cool video. I love the use of data and listening to your interpretation.

Yikes! You are doing my head in by comparing the 11.59 with a poxy Nomos. Yes, I said and meant poxy. BTW, I love the original 11.59 in gold. and I really don't like the dials on the steel ones. So, I absolutley don't agree with you when you call them an improvement. The white dial is hideous, but most of the other ones are lovely. At least we agree that the case is amazing. As it happens, I have the 3-hander in rose gold, with a blue fume dial, a textile strap and it is gorgeous. Sorry! I also have a blue 15500 which I love infinitely more, but that's fine because it is more beautiful than any watch you could care to mention. Judge the 11.59 on its own merits. The only serious criticism I have is the truly poxy name. And no, I didn't buy the 11.59 to get the 15500 - I bought the 15500 before even ordering the Code 11.59.

Just save more and buy the damn Rolex. Tudor will never be a Rolex and people know this

Just ignore Mayer and Sheeran. They are just 2 (rich) guys buying watches that everyone craves for, but they have no idea about 'understanding a watch'.

You know the watch industry like the back of your hand. 😂

I don't like the 4 squares on the bezel for word directions. If it had a coin edge all around I would like it much more.

Thanks for your content. We might see them coming back to Russia then here in order to at least do some inventory swap without real sell out ?

They are just a really great value for money. They don't act as if they want to persuade you to buy them instead of Omega or Tudor. They just offer their goods, it's up to you if you want to buy them or not.

I bought my first G in Dec 2023. Now I have 12 (not to mention several Non-Gs) ! One G is enough for lifetime, but we end up buying several Gs after buying one G !

I'm glad Hamilton is moving away from their old lugs. I like that brushed surface more that the blasted khaki mechanical. I wear sometimes 18000 watches. I know that's half of the hi-beat frequency, it's as charming, just in a different way. 21600 is not an issue.

I gotta wonder where all these Cartier watches are being sold? I just don't see them on wrists in Europe.

Bremont are a brand that have always seemed like a marketing first brand to me. It's all rather fake and gimmicky and not at all interesting. IMO they're also ugly or unoriginal.

Panzera, Maen, and Vario are doing well in this market.

Very good point. I like to give small makers chance. Often I will wear the watch and flip it at a loss. I look at it like test driving. One watch maker I just plunked some money recently is D. dornblueth. I bit more than 2k but this one will be my long term hold.

The watches need more screen time and not ultra closeups.

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Christopher ward has a cult following and will hype like Tudor

Really informative video thanks Mike

I remember when I bought my first luxury watch. I bought a Breitling Avenger Chronometer. Someone told me “Breitling doesn’t hold value in the secondary market.” My response was “I didn’t buy it to sell it. I bought it wearing.” I still wear it. Great video, per usual.

I have one lol

I can't believe you didn't bring up the hypocrisy of calling Blancpain a Heritage brand when they went out of business and only exist now because JCB bought the name and resurrected it. It's a different company that just makes what the old company used to make.

I will bring Explorer 40mm (or EZM3) and Fenix 6 Solar Pro..

Blue dial Sky-Dweller on jubille drops bellow $20,000USD in the next 12 months?

You are right. The PRX is the watch people want. It seems like everyone either wants one or has one already. My question is, though, what comes next for Tissot after the integrated bracelet craze is over.

Grew up in the 80s and it was the Miami Vice/Gordon Gecko era - two watch choices the Solid Gold Rolex Datejust on a jubilee or the Cartier two tone Santos. In recent years I looked at both to connect me to my youth. Pleased to say I went with the Large S&G Santos - it is an amazing watch and I kinda feel like an outlier vs being part of the Rolex Club (don't get me wrong Rolex are terrific just not a brand for me)😀

So, sometimes I like to put out argumentative statements for the purpose of discussion, but not trying to be a troll. Could the Submariner just be an homage to the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms? Wasn’t it introduced first?