Canon EOS R6 overheating

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  • Опубліковано 13 гру 2024

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  • @slava_fast
    @slava_fast Рік тому +4

    Woooow! I'm blown away, you made even so boring (but very important) theme look like a Hollywood movie! Amazingly great job!

  • @fredrogers4186
    @fredrogers4186 Рік тому +3

    I've had mine about four months and love it. I'm an event photographer and have never used it for video but have found that after about a thousand frames in any one session, I don't get the warning light but it does start to freeze up and becomes useless until I shut it down and let it rest for 15 or 20 minutes.
    Not great when it happens, for instance, at the end of a wedding reception as the couple start to make their grand exit.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      You shoot H+? I’ve had a few freeze in H+ when bursting, but a restart always solves that. Have you tried that? I can’t imagine the stress to have the camera freeze during a wedding

    • @fredrogers4186
      @fredrogers4186 Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom No, sir. At weddings I shoot single frame only. I've tried all the standard quick reboots including cycling the on/off switch, popping the battery, replacing the battery even though the 'current' battery has a fairly full charge and even popping the lens.
      Nothing works except letting it sit for a while and, I assume, cool off.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +2

      I managed to overheat mine by just waking up the back of the screen to check AF. When I shoot events, which is about 3-5000 photos in a few hours, I never use screen, just viewfinder and never have overheats. Not sure it helps, but that screen can generate a lot of heat is my experience.

  • @PeterGregg
    @PeterGregg Рік тому +4

    In a stationary setting (studio) a slow speed (quiet) fan blowing on it also give you no time limit. I accidentally forgot it on overnite and in the morning I was surprised it was still on! Nice video, thumbs up 👍

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Thank you and a nice addition. Thx for sharing

  • @bollywoodphotographe
    @bollywoodphotographe Рік тому +2

    Dear Per Svanström, has waited a long now, waiting for the final solution for burning Canon R6, you are the only person on this planet who will bring back the LOST hope! dear superman...

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      A 1000 thank you 🙏 and more. One of the nicest compliments I have ever received. Thank you 🙏❤️

    • @bollywoodphotographe
      @bollywoodphotographe Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom Love you, Superman!!!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      @@bollywoodphotographe Let me know if there is anything else you want me to cover in a future video

    • @bollywoodphotographe
      @bollywoodphotographe Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom My dear friend many thanks for the quick and fast response. The burning of Canon R6 is a significant headache for Canon R6 owners threw out the globe. you are one and only... the LAST HOPE... I love you, my dear Superman.

  • @ideeCreates
    @ideeCreates 9 місяців тому +1

    LOVE THIIISSSS!!! Amazing storytelling!

  • @immobilienvideo.bayern
    @immobilienvideo.bayern 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the video! Really helped me increase my shooting time.

  • @Katatonic2000
    @Katatonic2000 Рік тому +1

    Loved the Victory Dance at the End!

  • @sknemani
    @sknemani Рік тому +2

    I wished you had spoken a bit about the cons of using this method to avoid overheating. One thing I can think of is you can’t check or monitor autofocus as it won’t show the autofocus face detection or eye detection indicators in Atomos. I would like to know what other cons like that are a part of this strategy if one were to use it like this to avoid overheating in 4k60.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +2

      yeah, not using the camera screen can be a problem. I even speak about this in an upcoming video, where I was worried about AF, so kept turning on screen to check and ended up with an overheat. On the otherhand, turning on peaking on my Ninja and I can always tell if I have focus on the right place. I'm just so use to checking camera screen I sometimes forget to use the external monitor.
      As to speaking about pros and cons, I will try to do that more in future videos and I did so in my just recent posted video. Hope you liked that part better :)

  • @davidgense331
    @davidgense331 11 місяців тому +1

    Love your storytelling. Thx for the great content + inspiration!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  11 місяців тому

      That makes me so happy to hear ❤️ Thank you for sharing 🙏

  • @corlissmedia2.0
    @corlissmedia2.0 6 місяців тому +2

    Very dramatic video. Good choices of music to support that drama. When you were counting down the solutions on your fingers, I wanted to see graphics on the screen listing them. To summarize: use dummy battery, remove both memory cards, turn off screen, and fold out screen. Your last two solutions are problematic however. With the Ninja V attached, you can use the R6 screen to change F and ISO in response to external conditions. But I saw that you were presenting the screen on the Ninja, and using the wheel to change camera settings, which is not the F and ISO, so this is confusing (at lest to me). I have the R6ii and the Ninja V. Even at 4K-24P I'm lucky to get 9 minutes before the ninja shuts down.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  6 місяців тому +1

      Your Ninja overheats?

    • @corlissmedia2.0
      @corlissmedia2.0 6 місяців тому +1

      @@persvanstrom god yes! I'm trying to get my Ninja V to work with it. At the most I've recorded 9 plus minutes before the Ninja says there's a problem with the connection, and shuts down. Any input would be MUCH appreciated.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  6 місяців тому +1

      @@corlissmedia2.0 You run latest firmware?
      I would check HDMI cable. As it complains on connection…

    • @corlissmedia2.0
      @corlissmedia2.0 6 місяців тому

      @@persvanstrom I’m running 1.3.0
      on the camera, 11.06.00 on the ninja v

    • @corlissmedia2.0
      @corlissmedia2.0 6 місяців тому

      I’m using an atomos cable that set me back $75. The ninja v is going to a 2TB Atom SSD. M with you, the bottleneck is the hdmi D connector on the camera.

  • @jamesnguyen4012
    @jamesnguyen4012 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your tips. What dummy battery are you using for the R6?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Can’t remember. Cheap Amazon. Andycine maybe. Check my Amazon links, it should be there

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Here is the link to the adapter I use geni.us/uxNElU (affiliate link)

    • @Lamidnightsss
      @Lamidnightsss 10 місяців тому

      Also try using the battery grip. The batteries are under neath

  • @FirstSpokenGaming
    @FirstSpokenGaming Рік тому +3

    Nicely done, man! Thanks for the video :D Just a suggestion - your video made me wanna check out the items you were using. You should add them as affiliate links in the description so you can make some extra side money!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +2

      Thank you very much for the kind words and great suggestion. Will sort that right away ❤️🙏

    • @FirstSpokenGaming
      @FirstSpokenGaming Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom No problem 😄👊

    • @daansebastian
      @daansebastian 10 місяців тому

      @@persvanstromjust came to this video, and definitely ordering that battery thing, so if you have an amazon affiliate link up, I’ll use that! 🙏🏽 this trick is saving my life! I gave up shooting in 4k🤣

  • @VertaSkull
    @VertaSkull Рік тому +1

    DId you start shooting in IPB Light for heat?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I shot the test in 4K50 for max heat, but pref IPB light 25 for real

  • @escapekayak
    @escapekayak Рік тому +5

    Relevant, informative and fun. Great content. Thanks for your effort. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @SinaFarhat
    @SinaFarhat Рік тому +3

    Intressant test!
    Angående musiken så får du bara få ordning på volymen för den den översvämmar din dialog volym ibland.
    Ha en trevlig vecka!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      Körde på lite hårdare än vanligt, men kanske blev för mycket? Tack för feedback och glad påsk

  • @shamhussain
    @shamhussain Рік тому +1

    Any guidance on what the best settings are for auto focus for video?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      I will start making a video about that asap. I prefer CLOG3 and I got a video about how to expose for that. When it comes to AF vs Manual, what AF etc, I think the standard settings get's you really far. Did you have anything specific or specific scenario in mind?

    • @shamhussain
      @shamhussain Рік тому

      @@persvanstrom for wedding and event scenarios.

  • @paulengle5784
    @paulengle5784 11 місяців тому +1

    Liked and subscribed. I have a Canon R6Mk1 and I'm glad to see that it's viable for video. It sometimes feels like 99% of videos about Canon R videography focus on the R5/R5c/R6Mk2.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  11 місяців тому +1

      Awesome, thank you! I think the R6m1 will go down as one of the best cameras, like R, that still is viable. Yes, it can overheat, but it wasn't intended to shoot continuous for over 30min as it has a hard stop. I love my R6 and took over 100.000 photos last year, so it's a workhorse. Even for video :) Got any specific topic or problem you would ike me to cover in a future video?

    • @paulengle5784
      @paulengle5784 11 місяців тому +1

      @@persvanstrom I’m working my way through your playlist, so my suggestions may be topics you’ve already covered.
      - what recording formats can the ninja 5 do on the R6? Are those codecs easier to edit/grade than the .mp4/IPB standard from internal recording?
      - for UHD/24-25fps, what recording media (cards for internal/ssd for external) do you recommend?
      - if you do not set an accurate white balance, how much latitude do you have when your shooting 4:2:2 20 bit or externally recording.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  11 місяців тому +1

      WOW 💙 Amazing stuff! I really appreciate it and I will try to cover all of this in future videos. Many great suggestions for sure

  • @prayogoputra__
    @prayogoputra__ 4 місяці тому +1

    Worth to subscribe! Bcause u always answers all of the question below more than the brand CS Lol.. superhelpfullll dude!!!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  4 місяці тому

      I try my best and comments like yours make me so proud and grateful. Thank you 🙏❤️

  • @KhasisLieb
    @KhasisLieb 8 місяців тому +1

    nice test! I have to say though, i did everything you said, and weirdly it's even worst... the camera stops even quicker than with a battery , both cards in, etc...
    I'll search for other streaming solutions, and resell every accessories i bought
    Thanks for your effort, cheers man

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  8 місяців тому

      Worse? Really? What firmware are you on m8?

    • @KhasisLieb
      @KhasisLieb 8 місяців тому

      @@persvanstrom yep 1.8.4
      i can have 35min with a battery and 2 memory cards, just the creen flipped.
      And with the dully battery and card slot empty, and screen flipped, it's a little less than 25min Oo

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  8 місяців тому

      @@KhasisLieb But 35m is above the hard limit of the R6m1? I'm confused :)

    • @KhasisLieb
      @KhasisLieb 8 місяців тому +1

      @@persvanstrom 35min with hdmi output, no recording on the camera. (want to test how long i can keep it up for streaming)

  • @alexbormanbou
    @alexbormanbou Рік тому +1

    Did you record as well in the card in the last option?

  • @MadoFotsa-ny2iq
    @MadoFotsa-ny2iq Рік тому +2

    Now.... what about using a Battery Grip and switching maybe from The Live View to the EVF? Leaving the Live view Screen off maybe during an Interview video recording?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      Super interesting. I almost need to get a battery grip to test this (don't own one as I mostly go AC or V-mount) @CanonEurope care to lend us a battery grip for this? 😅

    • @MadoFotsa-ny2iq
      @MadoFotsa-ny2iq Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom I'm almost done saving for my R6... by the way I heard alot about the Codec H.265.... any update regarding this? Or which best suggestion around it? As this Camera will be my main rig for Video I don't do alot of 60pfs so I don't think overheat will be a pblm for me

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I had no problem on either PC or Mac with H.265. I have more problems with Prores tbh, mostly as the files are HUGE! It's more a matter what NLE you will be using and your plattform (Mac or PC). The camera does what the camera does, so to speak. What will you be using for operating system and NLE?

    • @MadoFotsa-ny2iq
      @MadoFotsa-ny2iq Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom was planning go Get an i7 12700H with RTX 3070ti 32gb DDR5.. will be working with Premiere, after Effects and Resolve..

    • @MadoFotsa-ny2iq
      @MadoFotsa-ny2iq Рік тому +1

      I remember reading 2 years ago people complaining their PC couldn't even display the Video thumbnail... some couldn't import the Footage nor even play log footage using common players like VLC.. etc

  • @filmprojohanwagner
    @filmprojohanwagner Рік тому +1

    Your Rock Per. Keep these coming!

  • @matt.banton
    @matt.banton Рік тому +1

    Very well put together! Can I ask what dummy battery you are using?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +2

      A cheap Amazon battery from Fotga geni.us/uxNElU (affiliate link if you want to help my channel) or the AtomX Battery Eliminator (but out of stuck since ages)

    • @matt.banton
      @matt.banton Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom Cool thank you!

  • @korenpollak8344
    @korenpollak8344 Рік тому +1

    Thanks man! Love the effort and the good tips ! So glad that I found your channel

  • @AnandaGarden
    @AnandaGarden Рік тому +3

    Very relevant. Love the R6. Thanks for doing the work to find a solution. (Michael Bay music doesn't help.)

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Thank you m8. To much with the music? I got carried away editing as I'm enjoying learning that as well...

  • @merchantsmithimages
    @merchantsmithimages 4 місяці тому +2

    Canon knew these were overheating during the development stages. Back to the Product/Service Management stage! I'm a fan of Canon, but this is unacceptable. #Recall

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  4 місяці тому +1

      Always a trade off for weather seals and heat and size, but I feel you

  • @derekhuscroft586
    @derekhuscroft586 9 місяців тому +1

    What dummy battery are you using? I'd like to buy one for my R6. And I want to try this solution. Thank you for this awesome video.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  9 місяців тому

      It’s a regular Amazon dummy. Alvin Cables I think

  • @allisonvaughn
    @allisonvaughn Рік тому +1

    8:37 What do you recommend to do the recording externally? Can we simply use our iphones? I wasn't familiar with the product you used.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I use Atomos Ninja V, it's almost industry "standard" for creators and independent filmers when it comes to recorders. I has removable SSD's, making it easy to record longer sessions. I bought mine used for 400$ with SSD, dock and cables, so can make a bargin on them. Atomos also has Atomos Cloud Connect, where you can push proxies directly to cloud for faster edit or customer collaboration.

  • @johanwagner_sweden
    @johanwagner_sweden Рік тому +1

    When using the R6 as a B-cam, how do you color match to your A-cam? Does the ProRes in the Ninja V help?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Great question. I see a video coming 😊 but to answer. Yes, ProRes helps, but custom white balance and proper exposure is key. That and DaVinci and a great mentor @filmpro

  • @manuelbouillet
    @manuelbouillet Рік тому +1

    Amazing explanation ! Thank you 🙏🙏

  • @lucky_dejesus
    @lucky_dejesus Рік тому +1

    Nicely done! Looks like I'll have to purchase a Ninja 5. I've used the Tilta Cooling fan to help.

  • @bollywoodphotographe
    @bollywoodphotographe Рік тому +1

    Waiting for eagerly the next part of this episode!!!

  • @ansenvideoproduction
    @ansenvideoproduction Рік тому +1

    Crazy!!! I was almost selling my R6 then I saw your video 🎉

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I’m so glad I could be of service 🙏 What do you use your R6 for mostly?

    • @ansenvideoproduction
      @ansenvideoproduction Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom anything! From short movies, commercials, music videos. Recently, even weddings, and I was going nuts because I couldn't film for more than 1h with short clips. Maybe the buffer writing being stressed is another issue if recording internally.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      Oh, cool, you are killing. Yeah, the buffer issue might be it, but I keep getting overheats (even with my 5h+ setup) if I turn on the camera lcd. So I think it's a combination of everything and it's just the combo of everything that can push it far into hours mark...

    • @ansenvideoproduction
      @ansenvideoproduction Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom almost pulling the trigger on a used R6 MKII, but I'm afraid the problem has only been partially mitigated

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I got 2xC70 for video, never regretted it and never looked back tbh. I'm also on the waiting list for the R5M2 (yup it's coming). I wish I got my hands on a R6m2 just for a week to do a few videos, but still waiting on Canon to get back to me on that one.

  • @jiasios
    @jiasios Рік тому +1

    When Screen goes off after 1min and i click any button or zoom the lens, the screen goes on again and i notice a freezing frame in my NinjaV+. Do you experience the same problem?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      I need to test this, I can't say that I have noticed it, but this is super interesting and also a little scary. I'll get back asap about my test

  • @fulviobiavaschi15
    @fulviobiavaschi15 5 місяців тому +1

    A really great content!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  4 місяці тому

      Thank you 🙏 much appreciated

  • @YoungWhite01
    @YoungWhite01 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m doing what I saw you do in your video but my R6 stops outputting video over hdmi after 30mins 😢.. not sure what I’m doing wrong

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  6 місяців тому

      You need to start recording on the Ninja. Let me know if it helps 👍

  • @YoungWhite01
    @YoungWhite01 Рік тому +1

    Really great video, this is probably my 5th studying it to understand what you did lol! I'm curious though ..before I didn't know how to remove the R6 display info. from my ninja V while recording with the R6 screen turned off but once i figured that out, i was good to go !

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Anything I can do to help, just ask 😊👍

  • @martinweiser5726
    @martinweiser5726 Рік тому +1

    Informative and helpful. Thank you.

  • @cecisgarden
    @cecisgarden 11 місяців тому +1

    Any chance you could share the full name of the external recorder that you used?
    So only one SD card, screen folded out and darkened after a minute if I am correct? And attaching an external recorder?
    Thanks for the content! Helpful

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  11 місяців тому

      Correct! Make sure to check if any Firmware made this obsolete. Atomos Ninja V for the recorder

  • @Mufasa_Shabazz
    @Mufasa_Shabazz 6 місяців тому +1

    I noticed that you lowered the iso to 400 and changed the aperture to F4.0 on the final test that worked out. Did that have something to do with it? was there a reason you did that?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  4 місяці тому

      It’s just an error on the footage I used (yeah stupid mistake) but for the actual test it’s all the same settings

  • @udigursoy
    @udigursoy 3 місяці тому

    Great video! I have the r6 and external monitor (not ninja). Will it help to use a dummy battery, turn off the camera screen, use one card and add ulanZi fan to shoot in 4k? Will it work? My goal is 2 hours, with pressing record every 30m.

  • @supervikingkong
    @supervikingkong Рік тому +1

    Nice editing, lighting, and music. How did you get past the 30 minute internal recording limit when not using an external recorder? It seems like the overheating is mostly caused by the processing of writing all that data to the memory cards.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I didn’t Just pressed record again. Sorry if that wasn’t clear and thx for the nice comment 🙏❤️ Only way to truly go 30min+ is external recording

  • @gadzetfrik9393
    @gadzetfrik9393 Рік тому +1

    I am a little confused, since in my R6 there is a limit to 29,59min when recording. How did you echieve 5 hours? I record to 29,59 and there is now overheating but record stop because of the limit reached.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Sorry if I confused you, that was not my intention :) The hard limit of 30min with internal recording is not possible to bypass. I got 5h as I recorded externally onto the Ninja V. The 30min internal limit is an old tax problem that is gone on newer models. I hope this makes it more clear, otherwise just ask away and I will try my best to help you.

    • @gadzetfrik9393
      @gadzetfrik9393 Рік тому +1

      Dear Per. Thank you for this explanation :) You are doing so great work there. I am a new user of CR6 and yesterday watched more than 10 of your clips:) It is better than a netflix series. Greets from Poland!@@persvanstrom

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      Now I'm blushing :) but also cheering. THIS type of comment is what makes it fun for me to get up in the morning trying to make a little little difference. THANK YOU for sharing. I use 8sinn camera cage and camera rig parts, amazing stuff - from Poland :) Greets to you to

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      I don't know what to say to that, thank you very much for your support and kind words. Let me know if there is anything I can help you with or if there is anything specific you want me to cover in a future video

  • @tomascasarotti
    @tomascasarotti Рік тому +3

    Good stuff! Thank you. Question: for the tests with the ninjaV, did you remove the “stand by lower resolution” setting from the R6? Autofocus was on? Did you try the 5 hour setup with autofocus and a moving subject, or interview? Thank you!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      No, stationary test, I filmed that phone clock for 5h. Not the most fun 5h 😂 but I’m intrigued by your smart questions and would like to test it. Have you tested?

    • @fabianvm7
      @fabianvm7 Рік тому +1

      I want to know that too.

  • @bollywoodphotographe
    @bollywoodphotographe Рік тому +4

    Superman!!!

  • @muyloco14
    @muyloco14 Рік тому +1

    Thats so awesome man.

  • @BabylonBaller
    @BabylonBaller Рік тому +1

    I added a custom fan to the back of mine, and already use dummy batteries in order to record endlessly ;)

  • @NateyGray
    @NateyGray 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey man! Great video. Do you think newer firmwares have since solved these issues? Also if recording on 4k 60fps (no log), is overheating still a major issue?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  7 місяців тому +1

      Tbh, I don’t know. I have to test. More that asked this. Log or not, shouldn’t matter that much. Frame rate and resolution does

    • @NateyGray
      @NateyGray 7 місяців тому +1

      @@persvanstrom got it. Thanks so much for the reply

  • @ToddALarson
    @ToddALarson Рік тому +1

    I appreciate all your diligence but if we have to do all that just to get the camera to not overheat it doesn't seem worth it. I've been eyeballing the s5ii and sadly I might be saying good bye to canon 😞

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I get your feeling, but it's not that bad when you summarize it. I often shoot interviews for a few hours. Then I still need an external power source, my choice V-mount. Something you would need on any camera. When doing video work an external monitor (or recorder) is often very handy due to all the extra information it can give you. Memory cards or not, are more or less a choice, but with a 1tb SSD recording I would pref over SD cards anyhow. With the external monitor, no need to use the camera monitor and we are all set :)

    • @ToddALarson
      @ToddALarson Рік тому

      @@persvanstrom I shoot mostly weddings so unless it's a Catholic ceremony most of them are only about 15 minutes so I should be ok. Buts it's pretty hot in Texas in the summer so I avoid 4k during those months

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I can only imagine how hot it can be. I noticed on a recent shoot, where I shot interviews for 11h straight (yup long day). Even if I had everything set up as I described my R6 overheated a few times. I realised it was when I was worried about focus and I kept turning on the camera screen. Not sure that info will help, but I would avoid using the back screen as much as possible. I think you could get another 10min from that. Then 30min in 4K is still the limit as that is when recording stops, but I don't see why it shouldn't manage that.

  • @mirkocalija
    @mirkocalija Рік тому

    Did you tried recording in 4k crop mode with speed booster 0,70x ?

  • @carlos.sierra
    @carlos.sierra Рік тому +1

    Given the results of this video, it would be interesting to see exactly what rig you would build for hand held shooting. Maybe some links to the rig’s gear as well! You’ve done the hard work already lol. It would just be a matter of showing what you used. I like your content, btw!! Just subscribed 😁

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      First thank you very much for your supportive comment and great feedback. I love what you write, cause I actually have several rig video in the making all the way from a full cinema rigged using the Canon C70 down to a minimalist Canon R6 rig.
      Anything else you would like me to cover in a future video?

    • @carlos.sierra
      @carlos.sierra Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom that is exciting! I look forward to the new videos. Honestly, at this point, I need to really practice more with my new R6. I’m sure I will have tons of questions in the next few weeks/months. Do you have a Facebook group? If not, you should start one haha. I would join! I aspire to have a small but professional production company like yours. It’s something my wife and I are hoping to do in the near future. I hope to learn more from you.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +2

      The only thing I would do differently if I started today was just that - ABS - Always be Shooting. No, no FB group, I'm super small still, but help spread the word and who knows 😇 but I do have a video in the making (next up) that's titled "Canon R6 for video". Stay tuned for that :) and I love the idea of working with your wife. I wish I could do that...it would be my dream.

    • @carlos.sierra
      @carlos.sierra Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom thanks for the advice! Will definitely keep this in mind and try to shoot more!

    • @loysh8821
      @loysh8821 Рік тому

      This is great! Although the only problem for me is that I’m using handheld gimbal for a lot of my work :-(

  • @Gamesoupphoto
    @Gamesoupphoto Рік тому +1

    I’m a photographer that takes photos of dance events and can sometimes take 20,000+ shots in 13 hours. Do you think doing this same thing will prevent mine from over heating?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Oh, great question. Using just camera? I never had it overheat while taking photos. You get overheats?

  • @alejandroortiz4565
    @alejandroortiz4565 Рік тому +1

    Great bro thanks 😊

  • @smartswitzerland1450
    @smartswitzerland1450 Рік тому +1

    Cool video

  • @adverspace
    @adverspace 9 місяців тому

    A really cheap solution would be using 'semiconductor cooling systems' , they use peltier effect to cool the camera's back .... and can be found on aliexpress for 30-40 Dollars... I used it with my A6700 and I was able to record video over 1hour in 4k120 (in temp =30+ C !!!) and it never overheated in 4k60 on warmer days.
    these cooling systems are really good and dont take up too much space, I hope more people find out about these cooling systems,they are silimar to the new Ulanzi cooling fans but they are 100X times better because they work on cooling rather than just heat dissipation . They only need a small powerbank as they are externally powered)

  • @ElvisChirinosJr
    @ElvisChirinosJr Рік тому +1

    A giant oversight of this video is thinking most videographers would have an r6 on a tripod, instead of a gimbal

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      The purpose of the video was to maximize recording times, not to make a video that is real scenario. Tbh I could put it on a gimbal with a Vmount and get the same result, but a 5h gimbal shoot would def. Be an oversight 😎😅 I do than you for your feedback 👍🙏

  • @akash804604
    @akash804604 Рік тому

    Great video!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Thank you very much. I’m very glad to hear that you liked it. Anything you would like me to cover in the future video?

  • @DK-ds3em
    @DK-ds3em 6 місяців тому +1

    So basically i will have to buy the battery and leave the screen disabled but keeps it open and buy the ninja screen yeah ?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  6 місяців тому

      Basically yeah, but I don’t like to recommend any new purchases. Do you need more than 30min?
      I had my R6 with this setup overheating by turning (waking up) on camera monitor while filming. Nothing is bulletproof unfortunately

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  6 місяців тому

      Basically yeah, but I don’t like to recommend any new purchases. Do you need more than 30min?
      I had my R6 with this setup overheating by turning (waking up) on camera monitor while filming. Nothing is bulletproof unfortunately

  • @motokok3538
    @motokok3538 Рік тому

    Wow this is crazy!
    Can this be done with an R8 as well?
    also, I can't really afford an atmos 5 in my build, but I can probably also do this with my phone using a recording wifi app right?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      The Canon EOS R8 has a maximum video recording time of 2 hours for it's typical long recording format (no-one records 2h in 120fps). That makes the R8 a different camera than R6 that has 30min as a hard limit built into the camera. From an heat management the R8 is better from start so anything around 1h mark is just hit record and sort it internally. I wouldn't recommend sending anything but hd over wifi and pref not that either.
      You own an R8?

    • @motokok3538
      @motokok3538 Рік тому

      @@persvanstrom No I don‘t own an R8, but am really considering buying one! Do you think its worth buying an r8 over an r6?

  • @VertaSkull
    @VertaSkull Рік тому +8

    After 30 years in this business, you shouldn't need to buy another expensive recording device to use what the camera itself claims to offer. I think it's time for a class action law suit? Is there one? They have thme for lying auto makers all day long etc. Been using all canon pro gear for these past 30 years. I even have the atomos accessories. But when I want to run lite, fast and just use a Ronin RS3 hand held. The camera should simply record. At the very least for more than 20-30 min and that's not even contestant recording. I'm over it. Canon you owe me for 2 Canon EOS R6's. I Got all your new EF glass NOT CHEAP. And it's all worthless for video that you sold us on!

    • @schimor
      @schimor Рік тому +1

      You're aware that now car manufacturers force a subscription on you to retain (remote) mobile device functionality? Its not a new thing..
      I'm not saying I agree nor support their model.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +2

      Not sure I understand or follow. If you need a flash you need to buy a flash, as that is an accessory that is optional. External recording isn't something that is needed, but that is an accessory that many video users prefer. It's an optional accessory, not something that is required to use the camera. The 30min recording limit is not a Canon issue, it's an old EU tax rule that divided video / broadcast from photo camera, but that's removed. That's also why new cameras comes without 30min limit

    • @VertaSkull
      @VertaSkull Рік тому +1

      I was not actually. Wow, I would never buy anything like that. I just researched it. Not sure that will stick. Especially in this economy. The greed is catching up to people. I'm sure there are some that can get around it (love those guys). I don't do car payments or debt if possible. That's just me. I also don't ever buy a new car off the lot. It's the biggest waste of money many know of. One of the wealthiest men I know has been driving the same old, but nicely kept beamer for like 15 years now. He bought it used for 17k. I drove past his restaurant the other day and saw the car outside. He's still driving it. He's a page right out of The Millionaire Next Door. @@schimor

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +2

      @@VertaSkull The overheating I do agree on, but tbh, I never get overheats sub 20min and as the camera is only rated for 29.59, I don't really see the problem. But I do know others get overheats all the time, so yes. If the camera isn't drivable, it's faulty :D B

    • @kurtalexander20
      @kurtalexander20 Рік тому

      Fucking same. Well pissed

  • @allisonvaughn
    @allisonvaughn Рік тому +2

    8:25 Wait.. take out both memory cards? I thought you only took out one. Where does it save the video?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I recorded externally on my Atomos Ninja V

    • @allisonvaughn
      @allisonvaughn Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom ah okay.. the external devices have their own memory card. That makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to figure this out for everyone!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      @@allisonvaughn Thank you for watching, it's much appreciated. Just let me know if there is anything you would like me to cover in a new video.

    • @bogdanpopescu8406
      @bogdanpopescu8406 9 місяців тому

      It has better, a SSD standard computer disk@@allisonvaughn

  • @lamentedelfenix3259
    @lamentedelfenix3259 Рік тому +1

    Nice woww

  • @DatHirschi
    @DatHirschi Рік тому +1

    36min with the Ninja V? Which firmware do you have on th R6? I have to film in a theatre in a few weeks, so buying a ninja is not worthy?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I got 5h+ with the Ninja V, as I show how at the end of the video. I used firmware 1.8.1, but initially done test on this matter since version 1.6. There is a huge difference between 1.6 and 1.8, but still not enough without external recording and all the other fixes I added. The 36min was with the camera in factory mode and dual memory cards :) I hope this helped answering your question, otherwise just fire away and I will try my best to help

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      How did your shoot go?

    • @DatHirschi
      @DatHirschi Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom It is next week. At the moment i'm trying out max recording time (battery) with the ninja.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      @@DatHirschi cool, how's it going?

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      @@DatHirschi I managed to overheat my Ninja after 22min in an interview session after doing this video. Was very surprised, but when I went over it afterwards I realized I was worried about keeping focus, so I kept poking the screen, waking it up. I think that made a huge difference, so maybe try to keep monitor off as much as possible?

  • @yvesbernas1772
    @yvesbernas1772 Рік тому

    Sorry. It seems that it is not the combination of the individual recipes that made it. This would be mysterious. It appears to be the fact that you removed the second sd card in the last test. So it would probably be the internal coding to H265 that generates heat.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      I tried with both cards and only one, but it was only with all the combinations I managed to get 5h. If you have other data I would love to hear it, always great if we creators can help each other 😉

    • @yvesbernas1772
      @yvesbernas1772 Рік тому

      If your record on an external device (i.e Atomos Ninja V) in clean HDMI, it disables internal recording, no matter if you have 1, 2 or none SD cards in. So no internal (H265) coding is performed, explaining IMO why it does not heat.@@persvanstrom

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      that is correct, last one was only external. Now with new firmware, I might make another, follow-up video if people would be interested. Just to ensure we got all facts and scenarios covered. One thing I didn't test was two different memory cards V60 vs V90, to check if that makes a difference.

    • @AndresArosemena
      @AndresArosemena 7 місяців тому

      @@persvanstrom would be great to watch that new video. My R6 has been overheating recently. Mostly if I'm shooting in clog3 60fps

  • @wah0wah
    @wah0wah 8 місяців тому +1

    Let me get this right - each separate solution gives you few minutes, but combining them gives you 5h? Sounds sketchy...

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  8 місяців тому +1

      TBH, yes it sounds sketchy, but it worked for me. Try one at a time and see if you get a different outcome? Not here to sketch anyone, just trying to help out the community.

    • @wah0wah
      @wah0wah 8 місяців тому

      @@persvanstrom Oh, don't get me wrong - I'm not accusing you of anything! Just thinking out loud. I'll def test it, but have to rent ninja V first :)

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  8 місяців тому +1

      @@wah0wah I answered in a different video but ran into several overheats with Ninja, due to me touching monitor on the R6 checking focus. So my own feeling is that the screen covering the back is a big reason for overheats. No matter, Ninja is required for 30+ min recording as the R6 is locked for longer recordings unfortunately.

    • @wah0wah
      @wah0wah 8 місяців тому

      @@persvanstrom awesome insight! Thank you, I'll check that video 👍

  • @adriannasyraf3534
    @adriannasyraf3534 Рік тому

    can't hear what you're saying with the loud background music

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Thx for the feedback m8, I will do better on future videos

  • @smartswitzerland1450
    @smartswitzerland1450 Рік тому +1

    if we do not fix it with overheating, we will do not invest in canon again...yep ............................. no, it is overheating becasue CANON EF aadapter for RF with lense from EF... second wrong codecs, and.... something we do not know

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I got all Prime L lenses and 3 Canon cameras. I'm staying :D

  • @MrNocaster
    @MrNocaster Рік тому

    You shot in CanonLog3 for the final video (Your 5+ hours of recording). I watched this video, made the decision to get the Canon R6, the Ninja V, dummy battery...same setup right. CanonLog3 same result i.e. As long as I wanted AND as long as the display was off. Shooting in standard...30min. This camera is junk. You changed the parameters (settings) of the test on purpose and didn't mention it. I regret the purchase. But, I did learn a valuable lesson...don't listen to salesman on UA-cam. It's just a commercial. Some guys are just untrustworthy. But, don't take it personally, Same goes for guitar pedals, guitars, plates, dishes, rain coats, jackets, bags, shoes, computers, hard drives, games, fans, humidifiers, curtains, tires, cars, phones, trackpads, external hard drives, etc. I could go on forever. But, maybe you'll get a sponsor soon...you know...the goal

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I pay my own gear, so not sure about the commercial reference, but if you only get 30min, then you are still recording internally. The camera is locked to 30min, no matter what. Only way to bypass 30min hard recording limit, that isn't related to overheat, but just a hard block on most cameras, then you need to record externally. My problem with external recording and the reason for the video was that even if I recorded externally, I still got overheats. That should be gone with my suggested solution. If you hit record on the camera, it will be internal + external. If you hit record on Ninja, it will be only external and no 30min hard limit. Check this and if still not working, poke me and we can sort it together as I'm not hear to sell shit, I'm here, trying my best to share my experiences learned by countless of hundred of hours shooting, with the hope that it will help someone else.

    • @MrNocaster
      @MrNocaster Рік тому

      @@persvanstrom No, You changed it from standard to CLog3 in your video (watch it if you don't believe sand run the test again) I have and got your 5 hrs. I know how to record externally. Plus, I said some youtubers. If that offends you, that's your problem. Your results of 5hr+ is a result of external recording and putting the R6 in CLog3. That's it. You stand by what you said, that's fine, but you are either mislead, made a mistake, or ill informed. I'd like to believe you made a mistake but, you double down and pimp the same video again. Maybe you should watch it again.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      They are all shot in CLOG3, it's only the Ninja V that show the output on the dispaly. The ISO800 on the internal recording might tell you that. I'm not sure why you are so angry and unfriendly but I'm not your enemy. I will say it again, if you feel you need help, just let me know.

    • @MrNocaster
      @MrNocaster Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom OK. Let's say I do not want to shoot in CLog3. I want to point and shoot, record to the Ninja V in 4k60fps. The camera is set the same. Not Clog3 but a standard profile in camera. Dummy battery, screen open. I get sometimes 30min sometimes less. But, when I change to Clog3 in camera, rec709 monitoring, I get 5+ hours. That is all I am saying. I can never duplicate the 5 hrs in a standard camera profile, native monitoring. Eco off. Maybe, their is a setting i'm missing that you have set that's probably simple, but the frustration is across the board on this camera. For me, even with the external monitoring, it is not worth it. I don't blame you for my purchase, and I really do appreciate the videos (doesn't seem like it I know) but when I've tried for the last 8 months to duplicate your results, I can not. So, I bought the camera and the external monitor and external battery and all the external rig to make this a point and shoot camera without having to use clog3, I should be able to and get the 5+hrs. My point is, without CLOG3...you will not get 5+hrs. That is the whole point. Nothing else. I know you are in CLOG3. Some people don't like to use CLog anything, just a standard profile.

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      @@MrNocaster ah, sorry m8, now I understand. I will try standard and see what I can make of it. Sorry for your problems

  • @densista1160
    @densista1160 Рік тому +1

    jaha är du svensk!

  • @kranskeh
    @kranskeh Рік тому +2

    good video - just tone down the music way way down, or not have It at all when you have dialogue. its hard to hear your voice clearly

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому

      Thx m8. I messed up 😊 Didi you like the levels better on the last one?

    • @kranskeh
      @kranskeh Рік тому +1

      @@persvanstrom yep, it's much better! Appreciate the content, it's very thorough!

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  Рік тому +1

      I appreciate the friendly and nice feedback. I'm just a beginner still searching for my place on UA-cam, so always nice to know and hear what amazing people like you, think of the content I make.

  • @MrSmartInventor
    @MrSmartInventor 9 місяців тому

    This camera is a toy. For 2100 USD basic version but I spent 3500 USD with basic cards, batteries, grip, and basic lens...waiting for Canon's feedback, if it will be negative....well, I will not invest in canon never, ever, again...THIS CAMERA IS NOT FOR 4K filming....

    • @persvanstrom
      @persvanstrom  9 місяців тому +2

      I feel you, even if I don't agree :) I think expectations are important and an R6 or R5 is a hybrid mirrorless camera and with that, expectations should be it is a photography masterpiece that also can film. It's not a cinema camera that can film for a full day, multiple codecs and no problems. For 2100 USD I personally believe it's a steal.
      With that said, I'm not saying you are wrong, just that different people will have different perspectives, and you are 100% right from your perspective as I am from mine.
      Most negative comments I read about the R6 and equal cameras are the lack of long use of 4K recording in 60fps. With a legal stop of 29min, we should not expect anything but burst video video usages imho. If the need is mostly video I would recommend a cinema camera or even two cameras.
      Still I feel with anyone dissapointed and I think it's entitled, but also hard. I don't expect my regular car to be able to do heavy off-road, but I would be dissapointed if I can't park it on grass. If that makes sense.