Canon R8 - Overheating & Battery Life
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- How reliable is the Canon EOS R8 in terms of overheating, battery life, and run times. I also compare this with the Canon R5 R6 II and R7.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:26 - Canon Specs
1:33 - Canon Overheating Metering System
1:54 - First Impressions
3:14 - Testing Parameters
4:23 - 4K60 Tests
5:50 - 4K60 Overheating Metering
6:13 - 4K24 Tests
8:48 - 4K24 Comparisons
9:29 - Battery Life & Run Times
10:16 - Conclusion & Takeaways
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Always great videos Josh
Thank you so much!
Thanks for another Awesome Video Josh!!!! With some of my R50 testing it seems we have some similar issues with that as well. I have not run into any overheating issues when using it in USB C webcam mode however.
You're welcome. Good to know about the R50 and webcam.
Very similar to the results i got in my testing. Thanks, Josh.
You're welcome. Good to hear we got similar results. Thanks for checking out the video.
Glad someone else is talking about this. Was recording short videos on Saturday and the camera was overheating and turning off and on itself. The screen was going crazy. Initiated a return with amazon. Wanted to mention that i was recording in the middle of the night. Camera was mounted on a tripod and the screen was on and being used as a view finder and i was recording in 4K30
Josh, can you do a video on USB C power delivery options, the best power banks etc and how to hold the power banks in place, brackets etc.. Thanks
@@pal54321 I put my powerbank in a small pouch that will hang on the tripod if shooting tripod, or in my pocket using 2 or 3 meter usb-c cable if shooting on gimbal. I also have the smallrig powerbank holder to put on the cage.
Hi Patrick, that's not a part of my workflow so I don't have recommendations for you. In the studio I just use a decent sized USB C PD power brick and it works.
@@pal54321 Blindspot Power Junkie adapter with a Sony NPF battery. You can attach with a 1/4 thread to a cage.
Thanks Josh! Great video.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Very good information
I've only had the R8 for a while, so far it hasn't overheated, but I record short videos, anyway as the manual said that the back of the sensor (and the screen) could burn... I've put a mini fan attached directly to the v-mount plate that continuously cools it down, can be seen on one of my shorts
I did a Livestreaming test - it went for 3 hours plugged into the computer via USB for video and power and the battery did die but no overheating. Thus far I am liking the camera definitely better than the R overall. Thanks for doing these tests Josh!
thank you for this info. How (well) does the USB for video function?
@@blaspayri Pretty good, two things I noticed, I wasn't able to record on the camera while video was connected to the computer, and the customization of the picture profiles was limited (no cLog) while in video over usb mode, but that is expected for this level of camera.
Thanks for sharing Rafael. I don't usually use USB for streaming, but weird it cant supply enough power to keep the battery charged.
@@Josh_Sattin not all usb-c (or USB-a) provide the same electrical power. Some usb ports can transfer high-speed data, but are limited in the power supply offered, so probably this is the case: the usb connexion was sufficient for video transfer and control, but had not enough power. For instance on a new MacBook Pro the different usb-c thunderbolt connexions provide power and high-speed data transfers, but I run into problems when connecting devices that require power on external usb ports, for instance on the studio display, as they have low power supply.
Hey Rafael - can you please share exactly how you did this? What app did you use for livestreaming? I assume the camera was idle - if so, how did you get around the 30min idle timeout the camera has? I've been trying to get my R8 to just stay on past 30mins when idle since I don't need it to record while livestreaming and so far NOTHING has worked (all power settings are disabled, I have a dummy powered battery AND USB-C AC adapter plugged into the camera as well).
Babyback Maniac put a small portable fan in front of the camera blowing the air to the lens and battery compartment. SD card I believe is warmer than the battery. I have just used Ecamm with HDMI out and inside the Studio no overheating problems. I do notice that Canon does turn off the lcd screen with no activity which doesn't bother me. I have been looking at the Velo Battery Grip for the RP/R8. Cheers!
My previous understanding of Canon cameras is that they only charged if they are off. Could you revisit this test by showing how do you connect the camera to get power delivery to work turned on?
Thanks for sharing. I did a lot of B-roll and currently have EOS R and RP but both are crop during 4 K so this is the reason I bough the R8 but after run a 4K 60 and it only give me 18 mins of recording. I hope it works for me but not sure will the memory helps tho.
excellent video.
This video was recorded on 4.2.2 10bit mode or 4.2.0 8bit?
Another question.
A user on UA-cam said that his Canon R8 camera got hot and turned off in the outdoor environment during the day. What do you think?
I find the power delivery thing interesting too. Last night I used a R8 to record for 3 hours at 4K30. I used a dummy battery and AC adapter. I did stop it about halfway through for 5 minutes. But I never got above 4 bars.
yes, you got rid of one of the most hot issues, the battery. I also ordered my Dummy battery but i will connect it to an NP-F970 adapter, on top of the camera.
I've had my R8 for 5 days. The image quality is gorgeous but mine overheats all the time recording video at 4k/60, in doors in an air-conditioned studio, using the 24-105 F4.0 lens. The camera is on a tripod and out of the sunlight.
I record off the HDMI port too so I'm not actually recording to the internal card. I can get about 20-25m before the temperature icon starts blinking.
Super frustrating and even thought I love the focusing and image quality, I'm probably going to return it. I record guitar-instructional videos and use a mic so I'm not sure I can use a cooling fan because my mic would pick it up...
I was previously using the canon M50 and never once had any type of temperature issues.
Maybe it's time to see what Nikon and Sony are up to? (I know sacrilegious in this forum but i'm pretty disgusted that canon would release this camera with this type of issue)
Thank you 🙂
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Dummy battery is a life saver. I also have the USB C connector to an external 100 watt PD power bank. Plus I have a 1tb Micro SD card and it is fine. Cheers! Plus I have a 100 volt plug in my car and four external batteries too. Cheers!
I tried the HDR PQ, Clarity and the picture quality is excellent. Any 4k 60 makes my cameras overheat quickly. I believe that 4k 30 or 24 will have 6k downsampled to 4k? Lightweight and portable. Cheers!
I am also thinking of the Atomos Ninja of recording but I want less gear when using this camera. So I will get the grip and the Rode Lavalier mic. Cheers!
Hi have you tested in crop mode and see will that help with overheating, since that one is not supersampled so should be less taxing on the processor and that means less heat. I've done 3 jobs (2 weddings and music festival) with R8 so far and the most I get is 1 bar, mostly 4K25p and some 4K50p. Though here is mid of autumn so temperature is quite cool, and I used PD powerbank around most of the time so havent had the chance to use 2nd battery yet.
I found this video useful. I was considering this as a backup to my R6ii. After this review I won't be getting it. I shoot motorcycle videos out doors and the heating problem would mess me up big time.
Glad you found this video helpful. I was concerned about the heat management and this camera definitely isn't the best with it. R6II will do much better.
Great video Josh - Thanks! Just a thought... if you purchased the aftermarket (and very inexpensive) battery grip for the R8 (same as the one for RP - yes it fits), you would: A/ Double the battery runtime and B/ potentially draw away some of the heat from the batteries being further away from inside the camera sensor/body? I realise it then makes the camera less compact - but may well be worth it.
What about dummy battery + power bank?
@@cryora yep, that could work too.
Great stuff Josh! Just the the video I was looking for. I shoot live soccer games while I play soccer, and I was looking into getting a B camera so that my A7IV can take a breather at times. I am invested in both the Canon and Sony ecosystem just like you so lenses are not a problem. It was between the R8, A7C and the FX30. I tested both the A7C and the FX30 and they both do fine with continuous recording at 4k 24p with one battery and no overheating. In fact the A7C records for 3 hours before the battery runs out. This test of yours completely rules out the R8 for me. Maybe I will add the R7 to the list along with the A7C and the FX30. I was so hoping the R8 can record for 1 hour and 30 minutes before overheating or battery running out. Thanks for the video!
R8 with PD Powerbank can ran for ages, though R7 will definitely going for much longer with much bigger battery and smaller sensor.
@@ntsan Any recommendations for PD Powerbanks for the R8?
I thought the A7C had a video limit on it. Were you recording externally?
@@dcollash No internally. No record limit on the A7C.
@@QaziAdil any 27W or more PD will be able to provide power to R8 as long it have 9V3A, I am using Xiaomi Power Bank 10000mAh Pocket Edition Pro 33W atm
Had a hands on with this camera the other day. I loved how compact it was, but the UI felt very unintuitive (even for an R5 user), and it felt very odd with a 24-105 F4L due to its size. These tests of yours are really helpful for me though!
What do you mean "very odd with a 24-105L" ?
Yeah the small body size is awkward with the larger RF L lenses.
thank you for this very real test with useful information on the actual use of the R8 .... overheating can be an issue if you have to record a show in a theatre, an event or an interview or UA-cam video in a warm environment .... and that has cooled me down on the purchase of this camera
You're welcome. Glad the video was informative for you.
I noticed when removing a battery after some use that it was warm. It seems to me that the battery can be a significant source of heat as it discharges . . . and your USB-C powered camera test results suggest the same. Testing with a dummy battery would be instructive (and I might do so), as would testing when powering the R8 with a battery grip, as the batteries in that case would not be in the body of the camera per se.
7:44 Hey Josh haha I just realized that the R8 makes the battery in the LCD a dark gray to show it’s on PD. I have an external battery bank and I was wondering how to tell if it was working or not. Did you know it changed color? I saw the r6ii did as well at 8:22
I don’t have an overheating problem with it but I finally found a way to check that the R8 is using power delivery. Thanks for all your vids man!
You're welcome. Yeah, I think the color of the battery status is how it tells you if USB C PD is working. Thanks for watching and all of your support!
Thank you for this super informative video.
I've been doing my research as best I could on the R8, R6, R6mII, and R5 as I'll finally be taking the leap to mirrorless after shooting on a DSLR for 11 years now.
Price is a factor, as the R8 is the cheapest, but the other mirrorless cameras aren't priced too badly on the used market either.
I'm still a photographer at heart, but I'm getting into videography as well, so if I did plan on a long recording session, would I be able to record externally with something like a Ninja V and not have to worry about overheating whatsoever?
Usually using a Ninja V and recording externally will eliminate the overheating in these Canon cameras, but I haven't tested it. Also keep in mind that if you don't have the H.265 codec in your Ninja then you will be recording in Prores and those files are significantly larger.
I received my r8 last week, and the good news is that the camera does not heat up even without doing anything. I remember that the r6/r5 when they came out was heating up without recording when we set to 4k60…so when recording we had less time left before overheating. With the r8 I was able to do several hours of 4k60 filming sequences of 1-2mn each time, but just 20-25mn in continuous recording (the camera overheats quickly when it is still in our hands).
So For my use (run and gun, wedding, low budget music video etc) I am not afraid to use 4k60 professionally, because I never film long sequences in 60fps…
Batteries? No problem for me to use 4 batteries or powerbank…
As a wedding photographer, won't the lack of full mechanical shutter cause some banding issues at higher shutter speeds? Or when you get unlucky with the venue's artificial light? I'm interested in getting the R8 as a club photographer but the lack of mechanical shutter has been holding me back a bit
ua-cam.com/video/Zt7Z_WjyqyE/v-deo.html he does a couple videos on the r8 as well
I’m having trouble using USBC PD. Nothing I plug into it seems powerful to be able to give it enough power. Could anyone recommend a good cable or power source? I’m using the R8 as a studio A cam, so preferably one that plugs into an outlet. Thanks!
They make battery grips for it already. It extends runtimes by a lot
Would you recommend the r8 or r6?
Great video, wish I would've seen it before I purchased my R8, probably would've bought the R6II for less overheating with long videos. What exactly did you connect for the USB-C Power Delivery? a Battery Bank w PD? or AC w the PD-E1?
It was a USB power adapter that plugs into mains.
So i did a 2 - 2.5 hours of 4k30 in the las vegas desert. And it was between 80-90 Fahrenheit. Each clip was generally around 5-10 minutes. With a few going longer and a few going shorter. LCD open, and in a tripod. Using the L 24-105 with auto focus on and IS on.
I have plans to run it on a DJI gimbal to see how it does this weekend and its supposed to be 90 degrees. 0 issues on stills. So far enjoying the camera thus far. But will be interesting to see how it does over time.
How long the battery life in video
@@GaneshKordeOfficial I got around 2-2.5 hours of total time with the camera being on
@@krisgarcia4452how has it gone this past 4 months
Very useful review. If you had to pick one between R7 & R8, which would you get?
Thanks! Luckily I don't have to pick one. I will probably be making a full video on this comparison because a lot of people have been asking me.
I mean, if it does overheat, take a the Sony route of the ZV-E1 just feature it and use it for marketing. Spin it as a very short form 'vlogger' camera. Then bump the price up a 'lil for how well it matches that genre/niche. 😁
Hahahaha
Well done...and I don't even have a Canon camera, and I enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching!
I wonder if anyone has tried to use IPB-Light rather than IPB and tested the overheating performance? I have an R6m2 but I think results for the other recent Canon models should be applicable. From what I can see the quality difference between IPB and IPB-Light is minimal, it would be nice to see a comparison from @Josh Sattin
Yes I’m still searching for this
I just saw a video regarding someone experiencing overheating while taking STILLS. Do you do STILLS testing?
I don't do much photography so I haven't encountered this.
What battery setup did you use for the USB-C power delivery?
I believe I used a power brick for this testing, but here is some information about batteries and rigging in general for the R8: ua-cam.com/video/-JT25BSL7HY/v-deo.html
I was waiting for this video thank you Josh, I think Canon made the choice between the R8 & R6 markII harder for us...
You’re welcome! Yeah, canon has a lot of options right now.
The battery last half an hour tops so what’s the use….?
Hi Josh, did you test 4k 60fps crop mode?
I did not.
Did you shot the 4K 24 on Clog3 10bit?
Yes.
Hook it to a power bank , easy Update i rewatched and you did mention a usb charger power
Hey Josh, I am hearing that the R8 is overheating while taking stills. I know you don’t do stills on this channel but can you please test it out. I was almost ready to pull the trigger on the R8 but overheating while shooting stills will be a deal breaker
I really don't do much photography so I can't add much here.
@@Josh_Sattin Oh ok. I am getting the R8 tomorrow. I will test it myself
@@QaziAdilhow is it???
I got 2 bars of heat just playing with the settings..!
in 4k 60 shooting in shorter intervals how long did the camera last before overheating?
I mentioned this in the video that I didn't get the camera to overheat with shorter shooting intervals in 4K60 because I wasn't shooting long enough. It did heat up quickly though.
I had the problem on the R10 that when it started to overheat, aparently it stopped recording, however the video I was recording didn´t save, does this have the same problem? Like if the camera turns off or if it stops recording because of overheatting will the video save?
I haven't used the R10, but on other cameras it seems to save the file. I would always cut off the recording before it happens to be safe though.
R8 can shoot 40 photos per second?
If I'm primarily using this for kpop concert photography (lots of burst mode). Would I still run into battery or overheating issues?
Unfortunately I have not tested this camera much with photography.
The video i am looking for... When you run with USB PD for 3 hrs 19 mins, does the video come in one file or the record stops at 2 hrs and create another video for 1 hr 19 mins?
It has a 2 hour limit so the camera stops recording at two hours and you have to manually start it again. So there are two files.
@@Josh_Sattin thanks for the reply... Wish it could atleast record automatically after the 2 hrs limit...
Most weddings, communions, parties are on location outdoors in the summer, in the middle of the heat of the day.
You have no other choice this is the important moment that this camera must work without any problems!
Then indoor shots where the sun shines on the camera are not a real benchmark!
the only good solution is a fan that blows away the hot air!
How can firmware solve a heat problem?
It can only ensure that the protection against overheating is off.
If the printed circuit board gets too hot in the camera, it must be cooled down with a fan, just like in a computer (see how many fans there are on a modern graphics card).
In the other case, it will switch itself off if a too high temperature has been exceeded.
If you now disable this protection or adjust the value via a software update instead of 80 degrees to 120 degrees, it will continue to work longer, but at what price?
Therefore, using an external battery, external memory, opening all covers and screen is a small solution against a construction error!
Have you done a test using a dummy battery instead and then powering it via USB-C PD?
I mentioned this in the video.
@@Josh_Sattin I watched the whole video. I don't think you did. Did you do that test with a real battery inside or a dummy battery?
Real battery with USB-C. I don’t have a dummy battery for this camera.
you dont need dummy battery when using USB-C PD, it will not using internal battery anway when using PD power.
I've heard using a dummy battery helps with heat.
Do you have Airplane Mode on to extend the battery life?
I did not, but I wasn't using bluteooth or wifi.
They intentionally crippled it with small battery. Look what Fujifilm done with xs20, the total opposite! They put large battery in small body!
Some dope on another channel argued for HOURS that the R8 was the bees knees for a new shooter. Idk, the prospect of any sort of overheat or battery life concerns just adds to the pile of 'nope' already inhabited by having to adapt obsolete glass to get a good deal.
People need to keep in mind how much this camera costs and be realistic about its capabilities. Its a great entry level full frame hybrid camera, but is not a high end professional video cameras.
@@Josh_Sattin Cost of buy-in is irrelevant if a new user thinks all they can buy are first party RF lenses (Which, if it is their first camera, they probably will). Canon is making their money one way or the other.
best camera canon r7 and R8 cinematic travel videos and commercial broll ......../
You can only vlog to your fullest potential cinematic with the Sony ZV-E1
@@TylerEdwards only budget 1.5 L canon EOS R7 & R8
Lot of community testing out there these R8 cameras have really really wonky software hard coded to detect change in temp NOT the actual temp. That said take a cold camera from inside AC to outdoors and you cant even shoot 5 mins 4k60 BUT leave it outside for 15 mins and you can shoot over 30 every time. Canon pulled yet another scummy move on the cameras to intentionally cripple them, as always. This can be repeated every single time.
This is rubbish. The R8 bases it's overheating warnings on a temperature difference. So if you put in a fridge and then take it out it will show overheating as soon as you take it out and start filming. Equally if you take it out an ice cold aircon hotel to a hot environment it will show overheating. just let it acclimatise for a few minutes and it will be fine. It's not an overheating problem, it is a teperature difference problem. Also, the new firmware upgrade solves this anyway.
I think overheating tests are pretty ridiculous. How many people will watch a 30 minute clip shot in 60fps? I've seen tests where cameras could shoot an hour/two hour long clip. But, why? When would you ever need to shoot for a straight hour? Or longer?
I discuss this in the video.
Weddings. Events.
I will watch clips that long. And I have shot for that long too. Motorsports coverage. Maybe stop asking why we would want to do something. It's the wrong question. It shifts the burden to the user from the hardware.
@@utopian666 I've filmed weddings. Never did I ever need to shoot longer than a few minutes at a time. If you're shooting for an hour - or more - straight, you're wasting footage. It's not realistic at all.
@@POVwithRC You'll watch an hour long clip from one camera at a motor sports event? Television shows that broadcast such events don't hold on one shot for that long. You're not realistic.
Came across this interesting video concerning a power supply option for the Canon R8 ua-cam.com/video/aIf66kEARC4/v-deo.html. Would be curious to see what the video run times are with this setup.
20 min 4k60 at average temp is disappointing
At this price the r8 is the only FF camera that offering FF 4k60 with great AF…it’s a chance to have it at this price…don’t understand people…
This camera is not for people who want to film 2h 4k60 without stopping…but if you shoot 2-3mn clip, you can shoot like this all day long.
this is just the cheapest best option to have a full frame with a Canon body. Forget about video. This is really just for photographers.
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