PNEUMATIC Pedals - Hot Air or Genius? | SRP-GT-R 3P Black edition Review
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- A completely unique approach to simracing pedals ... and wow, these ones are amazing.
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0:00 - Intro and Disclaimer
1:21 - Looks and Build Quality
4:30 - Pneumatic Technology
6:41 - General Adjustments
9:30 - Throttle Closer Look
10:05 - Clutch Closer Look
11:30 - Brake Closer Look
15:30 - Electronics
16:46 - Software
26:33 - Driving
34:20 - Verdict
37:00 - ¿Hablas español?
37:35 - Haptic Feedback
38:53 - Button smashing
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Great review! I liked the super close-ups a lot, production quality getting better all the time.
Again. Best reviewer in the business. You give us the technical reason which is very important and the practical points. Bravo
I got these recently and love them. They look and feel amazing! Glad to see your review on these
A great review Dan. Very interesting use of pneumatic cylinders. Impressive looking and they seem to work very well.
The production quality of your videos is exceptional, and the content matches. Thanks for the great videos
Thanks for the review. Very interesting, I didn't know there are pneumatic pedals. And your camera quality is as always fantastic!
it is a fantastic product, you only understand its extreme quality when you try it. I'm glad you liked it too
Very well explained, congratulations for the video.
I bought the GTR-3P two months ago, directly to Costa Rica from Spain.
The pedals are fantastic, but what is somewhat unique is the treatment of SRP. Before, during and after the purchase.
Totally recommended. Greetings from Costa Rica. Pura Vida.
Exceptional product used by our team. With a discount it's even nicer 😅 thanks to Dan for visiting us at the booth Absolute Motorsport Acelith At adac 2022, we hope to see you again this year
They look incredible and I like the brake travel as well. Definitely going on my list for when I finally decide to upgrade from my V3s.
How u like ur clubsport V3 pedal? How u compare it with simagic p1000 pedal?
Hi dan great video and well explained! i own the srp formula r edition and ther are by far the best pedals i ever owned. 😊
Great review. Thank you for all of the information.
im just watching for the visual quality. FFS im jealous. great work dan :)
Hi Dan, I am happily an srp owner and I believe that from your review there are two very important points that you have not pointed out.. the first is that any update will be made in the future you can do it without having to change the pedalboard but buying the new product is replacing it with the old one. And according to the service, I believe that there is no better service than David, in two days you will get the spare part without problems! Congratulations Dan and above all congratulations David.
Hi what other pedals have you or did you own, if so how did they compare? I will be placing my order on Monday, this will be my first pedal set!
@@nmasson30 Hi, I left with TLCM - Fanatec Csl - DC2- SRP. I also tried the VRS. I believe the SRP is the absolute best, A perfect feeling.
@@Rufuz_tv Thanks for the information, I keep saying it’s a crazy hobby that we spend all this money and can’t try before we buy! The Srp’s look very good as well I am not a fan of laser cut steel.
A very interesting pedal set. One I have not heard of but seems like a well thought out set.
Great video Dan! Glad to see these are finally getting reviewed outside of Spain. Picked up a 2-pedal set of this GT-R Edition a few months ago, and I'm in love with them. Had HE Ultimates back in the states, but wanted something different when I built my new rig. Couldn't be happier with them...just need to pick up the clutch pedal at some point; and I'm looking forward to the possibility of haptic feedback!
Hey man, i ordered my set as well and will receive them in 3 days. Wondering what’s the possibility of feedback? Did David mention this anywhere?
The design of these is unique , and a better solution than the dated elastomer design that basically every other pedal set has. Build quality is second to none also. I would recommend them.
Great review! thanks!
i was going to buy this pedals before but i just wanted to be sure i just watched your review and already bought them
Hello dan! I've had SRP pedals with the new Piston-R for about a month now. For me it is a great experience. Reverse braking is easier and the accelerator is wonderful. Highly recommended.
What exactly is reverse braking?
@@helmetculture they mean trail braking
HI DAN Just ordered 2 pedal set with your code . Should receive in about 7 to 10 days
Ah man AMAZING!!!! Can’t wait to see the review on the active pedals from simucube to compare with these.
And maybe time for a tier list 😂
The active pedals are 2500 each (Yes each Pedal)
I wish I could move my feet to buy some of the pedals you reviewed recently, really interesting ones I should say.
awesome backdrop!
Hi Dan received the pedals 4 days ago .After the unboxing and pedals on my work bench the quality of construction engineering and attention to detail 99.9% perfect nothing is perfect when driving in RF2 at Road Atlanta a track i know well ,with my Asetek Invicta Pedals my best time was 1.17.01 with SRP down to 1.15.985 this absolutely amazed me ..but 1.16.2 consistent times i put this time gain to brake feel and better trail braking ability of SRP brake. please note i am just a mid pack driver... So to any one on the fence about buying SRP you will not be disappointed and i very much recommend SRP Pedals
I just replaced the rubbers on my heusinkvelds works much better ,i bet these pedals are great i am going to save some money and buy the formula set
Really looking forward to the sp01 from cube controls review, if they ever release them!
those look great. currently selecting wich pedals i wanna get. i have to decide between the vrs, nuo simulation and the srp. tough decision.
Excellent review as always Dan! I have one little question for ya: do you like the SRP or the VRS pedals better?
SRP!
Great review! Where do you rate overall the Simtrecs ProPedal GT? And will you be trying the Augury AP-121 some time soon?
Dan, very nice review. These or the Asetek Invicta S? Which would you prefer on the brake?
Use the non black version since 6 months. incredible and perfect feeling. I think I will upgrade to the black version when I have issues. Due to the perfect performance that can took years...Thx for the video. Was looking for the downsides... can't find any by myself too :)
With all these pedal set innovations coming on the market, I’m hoping HE comes up with decent upgrade accessories for their ultimate and sprint lines. Damned if I’m going to shelve my €1500 ultimates for something new to market. But an upgrade that offers the same… that would be tempting.
I find it hard to believe these are better than the ultimates just different. I love the clutch point and dampner feeling of the HE pedals.
Starting with the Dad joke right out of the gate...well-played.
Any idea on the Simtrecs review?
Hey @Dan Suzuki I noticed in the game play segment you have whats looks like an ultrawide imagine inside the car how did you achieve that. It looks like it has the bezel free kit on but clearly not that because its in game not your monitors. Hope my question makes sense.
Just nice of you, Daniel. Give credit where credit‘s due!
Hello thank you for your video between this model one a heusinkveld ultimate pro of this year you advise which one Thank you
Dave is a great guy and the pedals are the best
Whos Dave?
@@trevz1048 Owner of SRP
Do you have aq video where you show how you set up haptiks on the brake?
Hi,
Hattest du die DDs und Pedale von Simagic schon einmal probiert? Bin mit dem DD Alpha sehr zufrieden. Habe es mit dem Fanatec Podium verglichen und war froh, dass ich mich für das Simagic entschieden hatte.
Habe beim Simagic die P 2000 Pedale. Eventuell wäre das ja ein Review wert. Sg
Thanks Dan, I need pedals for my rig, staying in Spain these were on my list, but as you say they appear to be overlooked, I am fed up waiting for Cube Controls to release their pedals they keep saying soon. Is there much difference between the Imsim Talento’s and these, I don’t like the look of the Talento’s but I like the reviews on them, the SRP’s look good!
I like the SRP better than the Talentos - but the Imsim still are great pedals!
Thanks, I will get a set of Srp’s ordered with your code. 😃
35:23 Daaaamn, happy for you. I want to become a sim racing youtuber just so i can drive a real race car like you and jimmy lol
Very interesting Pedal set, I never could see the point in hydraulic pedals since you were just pushing a load cell with elastomers, you cant feel the compression of oil so its just pointlessly complicated with the possibility for them to leak. with this i like how you get the direct air pressure and the way it compresses looks very nice, would defiantly be keeping my eyes on these as an upgrade, But I do wonder how many cycles the SRP pedals will last. if its just a cheap seal replacement that's something I could live with.
@SimDad hydraulic isn't about pressing the brake its more to do with the trail brake.
Hi Dan, i have the Sim-Lab XP1 and you recently posted a review about these. Noe i got offered the SPG Gt Pedals for a relly good price. Do you see sny advantage switching to the SPG pedals?
Can the pedals be unmounted from the baseplate and mounted directly to an aluminum profile?
how do you compare to VRS or Sprints ? Thx :)
Dan, any chance you could do a video on your favorite wheels you own or have owned? It would be an interesting video.
If I do that people will just say I'm biased ... my absolute number one right now is the GSI Hyper P1 followed by the FPE. Still might make a video about it :)
@@DanSuzuki I hadn't seen the P1 yet, that looks interesting. I'm wanting 300mm, but I'm not sure I want the hassle of a screen on the wheel. It would be helpful, though.
Hey Dan, you say that gas compresses differently in different temperatures? Does that mean if your room is hotter/colder than normal the brake pressure changes?
Hi Harrison, the pistons are charged with a special gas that is not affected by temperature change, you can play in the north pole or at home with the heating on full blast and the pressure will be the same.
Any idea what the difference is between this new R brake piston and the old one?
I can only seem to find very limited information.
What is the difference between the GT piston and the R piston?
The GT piston:
With the new brake cam, the range of settings has been widened, from a guy who wants to brake like a street car with very little pressure, to a very close to competition setting like a TCR, as you know it's up to every driver.
SRP P1/FR piston:
Actually I have been lucky enough to work with real drivers from different disciplines, a year ago, the decision was taken to create a 100% competition piston and from there was born the SRP P1/FR piston so that they could train and they can exercise the forces, precision, sensations as in their competition cars which have very demanding brakes and accompanied by the new SRP-MySetup V3.2.1 software, with a new feature to help you adjust the brake when you compete with ABS.
Highly recommended to play with sparco shoes
But it's up to you to decide what kind of riding style you have and whether you're ready to take it to the next level.
Can we add Simagic Haptic pedals Reactor for ABS feeling on these?
Yes
Thanks for video, Dan. I have serious doubts about the longevity of the seals. How many seals are there? How difficult to replace? Are they "off the shelf" seals? I can just imagine sitting down one day, stomping on the brake and hearing a big fart noise.
I have a SRP-GT 3P set since David was beta-testing them (pre v1) and all good so far. Should you encounter any issues, I'm sure that David would fix them in record time.
@@bkdc42 Hi, who is David? The pedals look very cool!
@@thoritissimgarage1482 David is the creator of these pedals and all-around great guy!
@@bkdc42 Oh, that's what I thought but wasn't sure! Thank you!
I have the first version from a few years ago. I had an issue at the start and was sent a replacement in a few days, the design has since been improved and no issues in the last 2 years.
great great great pedals!
PURPLE has been added !
So are these pedals replacing your VRS pedals, are they your new "forever pedals"?
So the ABS button in the software is ABS for the ABS 🤔
These are beautiful, sucks they apparently don’t have US distribution. Another $160 for shipping’s hard to swallow on already expensive pedals.
And after you mentioning purple pedal faces, I noticed they now offer them. I would have never even thought about looking at those. But now thanks to you if I do end up buying these I think I gotta go with purple lol
Where are all these reviewers getting the price from? Because what he listed is without VAT. Also, what you mention at 6:16 is caused by the thin strips of rubber under the base of the pedal arms that dampen the sound. They stick a bit.
Nice to see this true innovative principle for a competitive price, but wouldn't buy it because of the linear clutch. The more bite, the better. Other than for starts I use the clutch for shifting occasionally and set up my Ultimate to what I think an old race car might feel, so quite stiff, which also fits well to many cars in BeamNG, AC and AMS2. The actual bite point might vary depending of the car, but it's similar in real life that the apex of the pressure curve doesn't necessarily correspond with the bite point.
Dan, have you tried Simagic’s P2000 pedals? If so, how would you rate them vs. the SRP set?
this gets affected by ambient temp no?
Guten Tag, es handelt sich hierbei um Handels übliche Festo Pneumatikzylinder. Dadurch kommt auch das sie eine Bewegung brauchen damit sie smooth werden. Die Dichtungen legen sich durch das nicht bewegen so gut an die Zylinderstange an das die erste Bewegung einfach mehr Kraft benötigen. Ja ich habe ca schon 1000 dieser Zylinder gewechselt. Der Gaspedalzylinder sieht aus wie ein Festo DSNU-100 Zylinder kannst ja mal googeln.
Ja man kann die auch easy unlabeln da Festo nur sticker aufklebt.
Hi Elco.
From what you say, you must work in a maintenance factory, have you ever calculated the km that the cylinders you have changed have travelled? Have you checked the characteristics of the technical data sheet of the standard pistons you use, where it says the km of useful life of the seals?
And of course, the pistons are manufactured exclusively for SRP with the specific characteristics of my design and I am not changing stickers.
@@SRPSimRacingPro
We have a big problem were i work.
It is a Cleanroom with clean Compressed Air without oil in the Air .
Normal you have oil in the Compressed Air so the lifetime is much longer.
Yes we tested this.
For your Brake Zylinder. They do over 20 Mio. Cycles befor they die.
The Throttle and Clutch ones, they die after 10 Mio cycles.
But all without any extra oil or anything.
The travel off one cycle is 200 to 300mm
Another thing is the speed, at my work the cylinders only have round about 800 ms time for one cycle.
Thats not really a Optimum For Lifetime.
So you don't should get any Problems with the sealing.
I don't wanna say that your System is not good. It's really nice because there is so much knowledge in the background in the Industrie off Pneumatik.
I wish you good Luck for your Projekt. This is much better then These Rubber Brakes.
Maybe you would tell me were you let the cylinders produce for you.
Greeetings from Germany. Sry for my Bad english.
Wow, at las, t air brakes. Maybe I would get some imersion in the trucks on ams 2 with these.
Vs simworx it's better??
Looks like a nice set with something new to offer as well. I'll say though that even with the Invicta pedals, and any pedalset, 100kg is too much. Even James Baldwin has said that he uses his sim pedals around 70-80kg max. In the real cars they do go to 100kg+, but due to g forces assisting you in pushing the pedal it feels more like 70kg on a sim setup.
How the actual hell have they done this. Seems like it makes every other pedal set out there pointless.
man this joke at the beginning made me giggle... xD
Nice
ooft these are nice...
Pneumatic sim pedals aren't completely unique. The Italian, high-end sim racing company ARC not only made high-end pneumatic pedals years ago but also wrote an interesting document on why pneumatic is superior to hydraulic for sim racing pedals.
SRP or simtag Ashley?
SRP!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
These or Invicta's?
Both great, if I had to pick one it would be the SRPs for me - I learned to like more travel!
These
I ordered the 2 pedal Invicta S series to compare to my 2 pedal SRP set. I have the older brake system, but they have been great. Interested in trying the Invicta bc I only drive Formula and want the small travel & brick wall feel…which the SRP can provide, but I want to see if there’s a significant difference with the Invictas. Hopefully they can ship within the next month.
@@DanSuzuki so I actually have the Invictas. But I’m worried about my long term knee health. I had an old injury playing soccer post army life and only run it about 20 bar. Are these easier on the knee’s?
I’m not a doctor but I would think it only comes down to pedal pressure. Even though more travel should help at low pressure
These or the Simtrecs?
These
Did you tried the Simtrecs? They are awesome too and more or less for the same price but I cannot tell how different they feel because I have never tried pneumatic-based pedals.@@DanSuzuki
ua-cam.com/video/kmeg5rEckaU/v-deo.html :P @@martamasi-----3036
Wish they sold the pedals separately, personally don’t like a complete pedal set and would rather space out the brake and throttle.
you can get the 2 pedal set and space them way out. Thats what I do
You definitely need more wheels.
I agree!
Love the paddles, hate the software. Using the serial communication is not my favorite (I‘m a hardware/software developer). I prefer how e.g. Heusinkfeld does it with storing the settings on the controller. No need to start any additional software. It just works.
You don't have to start the software to use them, it's just for setting them up - after you're done you can in theroy delete the software.
The SRP software is 90% a remote control of the pedals, like the remote control of your TV.
The software is actually on the electronics board.
What's your favourite colour? 😂
Hmmm. Not a fan of pneumatic. At least with hydraulic there's physical evidence to know when they're leaking.
Por favor, activa subtítulos español
should automatically be enabled after some time!
@@DanSuzuki Perfect, now yes, thanks!