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I agree with you also. The first time watching it I was like “ Oh, no, she disabled the Intrepid’s right nacelle.” Then a minute later “the USS Intrepid must be armed to the teeth with a payload of photon torpedoes & they must fire them on the USS Titan-A to prevent them from going to warp because the intrepid could not go to wrap.”
The Intrepid is a great name for a ship name.Always thought that the name Intrepid is just as good as the Enterprise name. Plus this ship is pretty cool looking and looks like a scrapper in a fight and Great explorer also. she may have or should have some phasers banks like the old starfleet ships or phaser pluse cannon's along with the other phasers they have. I know she is more of a science based ship.But since the battle of wolf 359 and the dominion war and many other things.she may have or should have been armed a little more i think.
Well don't forget the US Navy has had 8 USS Enterprise's but the Royal Navy can beat that with 13 HMS Enterprise's. So popular names get reused...a lot😅
I always enjoy it when Star Trek uses the names of actual famous warships & sailing ships, especially the WWII carriers. Maybe if Legacy happens we’ll see the Intrepid back, and since the Enterprise-G isn’t the biggest or strongest maybe they could call the new Federation Flagship the Yorktown, Lexington, Saratoga, Essex, Ticonderoga, Hood, Excalibur, etc…something else that has historic gravitas. As far as this Intrepid’s class I could see using names like Hornet, Wasp and Ranger for a few of its sister ships.
It is a damn shame they didn't include any legacy ships in Picard. The Excelsior and Miranda class ships were around for nearly a century. I find it difficult to believe that all of the TNG era ships would have been scrapped after just 20 or so years.
@@SomeCallMeTim47 Right, but what about the Defiant class or the Akira class or Sovereign class or Galaxy or Intrepid, Nebula, etc etc which are all designs that are only 20-30 years old by this point.
Ok, here's how I'm seeing it, and feel free to disagree. First, all of the TMP Era designs are either owned by Federation colonies for defense, in private hands or have been destroyed/scrapped. That last part is important because I feel it plays into the next bit.
When I saw the new Intrepid I immediately thought of the rather distinctive Akyazi-Akula class which is a TMP-era design that was the first time I'd seen this kind of design.
@@HylianFox3 I think it's because of the more turbulent times that modern Starfleet ships are built in, and the dim lights let officers adapt to a combat situation where the lights are dimmed to put more power to defense systems faster.
Modern Trek can't come up with a good interior or render a good exterior. The art direction is just bad all around and the writing isn't much better. I'm told season 3 got a lot better in Picard but goddamn I don't wanna sit through that slog of two seasons to get there. 😆 Seeing the original crew on board the ole Galaxy class was pretty touching though.
@@SirEpifire Just start at Season 3. There's as little relation as there can be to the first two seasons. It's a 'reboot' essentially, jettisoning the silly 'rules' imposed in the first two seasons and the dreadful storytelling. A clear decision was made to draw a line between S3 and the other seasons, and you don't need to have seen those to enjoy the...well, the good season.
"Starfleet seems to decommission ships every five years now." i no rite? It's cool that there's so many new ship classes compared to the "Oh look, yet another Oberth/Miranda/Exclesior" TNG/DS9 era but there's *so* many of them they all must have a very short lifespan. The new Intrepid even has a close registry number to the Intrepid-class Intrepid Intrepid! Intrepid! Intrepid!!!
That bothers me as well. In the time of PIC there should have still been Galaxy and Nebula Class ships flying around. The TNG technical manual stated that the Galaxy class was designed for a 100 year service life, with major refits at 20 year intervals.
Something really cool is that the Intrepid, just like how the titan is a redesign of the Shangri-la, is a 25th centuryified version of his USS Wasp design from the TMP era
As a note, the suffix ( bloody A BC etc) is typically applied to ships that recieve both the name and registry number of a previous ship, the Enterprise A got an A because otherwise keeping its records straight would be problematic. We see other ships carry established names but typically without the historical numbers. This allows for easy distinction between the ships. It also seems like some ships get legacy numbers even without the associated name, the Constellations registry number is 1017, making it incongruous with the 17xx scheme that seems to define the class. Apparently 17 is meant to be the 17th cruiser design and the following digits roughly represent the production order. So it seems likely that the Constellations number is in honor of an older ship, plausibly of a Crossfield class ship that predates the Discovery and Glenn (1031 and 1030 respectively) though as the fleet grows larger over time the whole numbering convention breaks down, even more than it was already lol.
It should be noted that this pattern (reused name, different number) seen on the Intrepid (also Defiant, Hood, Excalibur, etc.) is the way it tends to work in the real world. For example, the real USS Enterprise (CVN-65), which was decommissioned in 2017, is scheduled to be replaced by a new USS Enterprise (CVN-80). She herself was named for the previous USS Enterprise (CV-6).
Watching the opening credits for ST: Voyager has caused me to decide that, if I ever play Star Trek Online, I will name my character Ensign Harry Wang.
Worf didn't have to go through Prune juice, the Prune juice went through him literally, I mean old people drink it to keep regular 😂. This Intrepid seems more like an advanced scout, hence the sensors a bit Oberth like but less flying coffin.
Kind of bugged me how the Intrepid listed downwards after Ro's shuttle hit the nacelle. I understand why they did it, in order to simulate the ship "sinking", but from a physics perspective, it just seems backward. It probably should have listed up and to the right.
So we’re all in agreement that the angry, little Duderstadt Class is the 24th/25th century version of the Pioneer Class, right? For some reason, I haven’t seen many people mention it, maybe because it’s obvious?
Based on the date, the Pioneer seems to be the immediate predecessor to the "Blackhawk" reconnaissance vessel, where they decided the secondary hull was better connected to the aft engineering section than on the forward saucer.
@@rolandmiller5456 The only argument about it being a precursor and not a separate line is that we don't see that configuration represented going forward, suggesting a developmental dead-end.
You've got to think that a lot of the TNG & Borg buster era ships might not so much have been cast aside when that new ship smell faded, but rather they, like Voyager herself, had gotten so chewed up and repaired in that hasty manner that only wartime demands. ( à la the USS Yorktown CV-5 ) With such being the case, it was seen, on a ship-by-ship basis, that a good many were just too warn out to be viable anymore. It was most likely that a good variety of these ships were going through the Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards to discern their viability when the Romulan Super Nova crisis became the Breaking News story on FNN. With the need so dire for ships Starfleet was raiding all its boneyards whilst at the same time building specialty designs to move as many people as it could handle. If a ship couldn't fit the need to repeatedly lug as many refugees as it was designed to evacuate without requiring an overhaul or refit, then it was likely scrapped to either feed the industrial replicators or provide parts for ships in a better state of condition. It was likely that during the Attack on Mars by the Zhat Vash, everything that couldn't escape was destroyed outright. So, given this rollercoaster ride of happenings, it's none too likely that we'll see too many of those grand ole TNG+ era ships in any great abundance going forward...but when we do, smile and savor.
Worf became the greatest Klingon since Kah'Less because he was the first regular klingon since Kah'less. They left that sword in space because of the smell.
Love this design. The secondary hull placement and giant nacelles makes it look like it was built for speed--there's something agile about the sleek design.
Anyone notice that newer ships in Starfleet only seem to last 20 years or less? I was hoping the Enterprise-D would be recommissioned at the end of Picard, at least to break up this trend.
Now I want the USS Boaty McBoat face.A scout ship captained by a Scottish captain with a taste for Yorkshire tea tea, white, 2 sugars or "computer, tea, NATO standard" 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂👍
What I like about these 2 classes is that they are reasonably sized and buck the trend of vessels just getting bigger over time. There is no logical reason for vessel to be so large unless the mission calls for it.
Rare that season 3 episode 5 of Picard was the only time you see a Duderstadt-class ship. That design looks good except for the positioning of the photon torpedo launchers tucked in the center.
What a dorky looking ship. It's like someone was building a model that only had a saucer and nacelles and then they decided to stick a prostate massager on the underside.
There's one ship class I haven't seen y'all do, and that's the Nova Class. It's my favorite of the First Contact/ Voyager era designs. It's a science vessel based on an escort design.
I mentioned this on another video regarding this ship but as much as I absolutely _adore_ the Intrepid, which believe me I do, I can't help but think that it would've hit even harder than it already does if the Interpid had been replaced with the Enterprise-F in the series.. Sure the Odyssey Class is much larger than the Neo-Conny, but seeing *_The Enterprise_* of all ships compromised by the Changelings would've been a massive gutpunch and also made the stakes even more apparent.
The underslung secondary hull design grew on me over time. Really like the design of the ship overall, and she looks gorgeous from both the side and tilted top profiles
I hate to disagree with the wiki, or memory alpha. But it is painfully obvious that the 24th century Intrepid class was not a long range exploration vessel. Its crew too small, the quaters weren't built for extended cruises away from port, evident by how Kim's neighbor would bang on the bulkheads when he practiced his clarinet because the bulkheads werent built to dampen sound that effectively because the ship wasnt designed to be lived on indefinitely. Its clear that while the Intrepid made do and did serve well in scientific roles when needed. It was never a science first vessel. Star Fleet had a rule that all ships needed science labs because you never know when your going to be the only ship in the sector to get detailed scans of a temporary anomaly or alien vessel or whatever. But the Intrepid was incredibly well armed for a ship so small, very heavily automated, being that it was about 1/5 the size of a galaxy but used 1/10th the crew. It had an unusually large compliment of shuttles for a ship its size, and its warp core was excessively large for a ship its size, easily giving the ship more power than it would ever need. It had no kitchen from the launch, with Voyagers being built by Neelix to conserve on replicator energy. It only carried at maximum 3 years of deuterium. A supply that could be wasted much faster if the crew wasnt careful. And the lack of backup systems. They had no hydroponics before the delta quadrant, only a single doctor and 1 nurse for a crew of 141 and not a single crewman with medical training as backup save only for an EMH who proved more than worth his emitter's wait in latinum. Its obvious. The Intrepid was built as a multipure tactical ship that could be mass produced and be fast. Its necelles are purpose built to deal with the warp 5 speed limit starfleet put in after TNG discovered conventional warp travel of the time damaged subspace. The ships ability to land on a planet and either dislodge large amounts of cargo or personnel directly or even remove and repair entire coils in the field means it was modular and meant for rapid service and deployment. This was Starfleets best attempt at a general purpose ship for the 24th century, an answer to the Klingon bird of prey, a ship that is well armed for almost any tactical scenario. has limited science labs that can serve most needs, and can easily transport resources and personnel quickly across the federation. But its lack of back ups, lack of comforts, and lack of long term storage shows it would never have been intended for deep space. Also, no astrometrics. No star fleet ship can claim to be an exploration ship if it doesnt have even an astrometrics lab.
The ship only looks angry because it's borrowed part of the design philosophy from the d7 where there is a protruding hull facing directly at your enemy such as with the deflector array mounted drive section.
One more Intrepid for the road: The real life USS Intrepid is now part of the Intrepid Museum in New York, which also hosts the Space Shuttle Enterprise. Maybe this connection has contributed to the recurrence of the name in Star Trek, or maybe it just really sounds like it should be the name of a starship.
There's nothing unusual about a time honored ship name being reused for a new ship after the previous ship has been destroyed or decommissioned. Real navies do it all the time as a way to honor the legacy of the name. The British Royal Navy has had 15 ships named Enterprise since the 1700s, and the US Navy has had 8, including three aircraft carriers, the latest being the Gerald R. Ford class Enterprise currently under construction right now.
I think the name Intrepid keeps being reused for several reasons. First, it's a good name for an exploratory vessel; I'd expect nothing less for the Intrepid-class USS Voyager to venture to the farthest reaches of the galaxy. Such a mission certainly wouldn't fit for the USS Sitsathomeport. Second, Star Trek from its inception has loved WWII ship names - the American carriers in particular. All three of the Yorktown-class carriers have lent their names to Starfleet vessels (Yorktown, Enterprise, and Hornet) as have the Lexington-class (Lexington and Saratoga) and the Essex-class Intrepid, Princeton, Shangri-La, Valley Forge, Kearsarge, and Franklin (I'm sure I've missed a few). Additionally, the carrier Intrepid has been preserved as a popular museum ship in New York City, lending a readily visited (for American audiences anyway) real world connection. It is somewhat weird from an in-universe perspective that the various Intrepids don't share registry numbers like the numerous Enterprises and Voyagers. It's of course explained from a meta viewpoint: none of the Intrepids has been a "hero" ship.
"Decommissioned every 5 years." Starfleet had a few generations of complacency, then a couple of generations of intense hostile activity. Bound to have ships running out of lifespan very quickly at that point. (Not Worf's fault.) You watch: Ent-J is the result of 100 years of 'the galaxy is at peace, we can relax'.
Well the name vomes from real world navy. Ww2 . A carrier, I think . The hornet was the sister ship of enterprise in ww2 ( carrier's) snd constitution class in star fleet . . But if you type. Uss wasp .star trek . ( try venim geek media) image of the wasp class, and an 8 min video discussion of the class . ( sphere with 3 nacelles early star fleet )
I get the idea of being familiar to the audience. But this is a great example of how the enterprise breaks it's own cannon..why isn't there an intrepid A, B,C, etc... The Potemkin as well...
So, we only ever see two, or hear of more than four intrepid class starships, so it's possible there just weren't that many of them commissioned, in which case, the fact we don't see any in STP is merely the fact that they were used to the point of breaking. We know voyager was decomm'd pretty quickly after her return, given what she went through, and that was decades before STP, so it's safe to assume they're successors have completely replaced them now. Plus, whilst we see hundreds of ships at earth, we don't see thousands, and an organisation the size of the UFP and its Starfleet would require many times more ships to function, so I'm guessing what we really saw was the primary battlefleet(s), whilst the support fleet(s) of less battle-ready status were trying to fill the gaps for the expected duration of festivities. I really like this new "Dude" class and can't wait for them to hit STO, she's a real pretty dude for an angry starship. Of course, they'll have to mod the design a little for turrets and omni's (seriously, why do no ships have centreline weapons anymore in Trek?), but I have faith the team will be conscientious in doing so: they're pretty good at ships these days. I went had a look at Larry Miller's designs and had a right giggle when I read she's supposed to be an FDC, like, she has less IV than a Connie; where are you putting the fighters? (the Hornet is tiny compared to the Dude)
Adam AGAIN No wonder King Charles Shceduled his Coronation today! 😉 As for the video, Intrepid is one of a handful of names used in TOS and reused in the various incarnations of Trek. Maybe you all should do more of them, Consitution, Constellation, Yorktown and of course Defiant! Unless you already did! 😁
"The Angry Starship" I will, probably, be the first to say this much for the USS Intrepid, but I found it about as angry as a sleeping kitten. Seriously. The only thing that made it seem angry was the background music they choose to play as the ship recovered and powered back up. Had the USS Titan chose to power up and fired first? They'd have been playing a funeral dirge instead. We could have had a more intimidating vessel, like an Excelsior 2 class or even a Sagan, show up, but what we got was something that looked Starfleet was trying to reinvent a Hoover Vacuum Cleaner instead.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but in the case of this Star Trek : Picard ship design there's an strange similarity to a dual G/C spot stimulator toy.
well at least they didn't use brittish names. Imagine, Bittersweet, Battleaxe, Cheerful, Dainty, Pansy, a defiant called - Spanker... And we are not even getting to the Fairy, Forlic, or... Sprite and... Warsprite (sprite was a military tug build around the same time as the warsprite, so you could have seen the sprite pushing the warsprite around.)
So I've been on board the U.S.S. Intrepid (CV-11) and i can tell ya. I think any of those sailors would have been happier on ANY starfleet ship named intrepid. It was kinda tight quarters in there. Except for the hanger and the flight deck of course.
7:30 They weren’t even on when that happened. I can imagine this Ship being a Spin-off Class of the Springfield-Class, they have similar hull configurations and if Added to STO, they should include the Springfield aswell.
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I never realized how terrifying a federation starship can be until you’re on the other end of the barrel
I liked the scene from DS9 when the Defiant went against the Lakota
The Duderstadt class is "what happens when the Federation gets angry."
@@katherineberger6329 Considering that it's supposed to look like a wasp/hornet ready to sting?
Yeah, it's mean as hell.
Wish they did a star Trek Mirror series to really see what a non moral bound starship can do in the term of damage
this was just a taste how a entire Quadrant was traumatized by Voyager
I love that the fandom has agreed to call it the “angry starship” 😂
For good reason... the designers managed to bolt a pair of warp nacelles onto what was basically condensed "Son, you just earned yourself a slap!" 😆
When that ship got hit I was like yay Ro, then it "stood back up" and I was like uh oh... that was one of the coolest scenes I've seen.
I agree with you also. The first time watching it I was like “ Oh, no, she disabled the Intrepid’s right nacelle.” Then a minute later “the USS Intrepid must be armed to the teeth with a payload of photon torpedoes & they must fire them on the USS Titan-A to prevent them from going to warp because the intrepid could not go to wrap.”
I loved the Intrepid, such a unique design.
The Intrepid is a great name for a ship name.Always thought that the name Intrepid is just as good as the Enterprise name. Plus this ship is pretty cool looking and looks like a scrapper in a fight and Great explorer also. she may have or should have some phasers banks like the old starfleet ships or phaser pluse cannon's along with the other phasers they have. I know she is more of a science based ship.But since the battle of wolf 359 and the dominion war and many other things.she may have or should have been armed a little more i think.
Ironically the First USS intrepid (the real one) was captured by the USS Enterprise in 1803.
This season had so many great ships - I wish they had focused on this one a little more.
I enjoyed the irony that the changelings were willing to send a known traitor to deal with supposed traitors.
Well don't forget the US Navy has had 8 USS Enterprise's but the Royal Navy can beat that with 13 HMS Enterprise's. So popular names get reused...a lot😅
Funnily enough the British Navy also historically had more HMS Intrepids than the American Navy USS Intrepid
You had me at USS Ermagerden and IKS K'plahstrophe.
I named my mirror Aquarius the USS Kamchatka.
(Throws binoculars in disgust.)
I always enjoy it when Star Trek uses the names of actual famous warships & sailing ships, especially the WWII carriers. Maybe if Legacy happens we’ll see the Intrepid back, and since the Enterprise-G isn’t the biggest or strongest maybe they could call the new Federation Flagship the Yorktown, Lexington, Saratoga, Essex, Ticonderoga, Hood, Excalibur, etc…something else that has historic gravitas. As far as this Intrepid’s class I could see using names like Hornet, Wasp and Ranger for a few of its sister ships.
It is a damn shame they didn't include any legacy ships in Picard. The Excelsior and Miranda class ships were around for nearly a century. I find it difficult to believe that all of the TNG era ships would have been scrapped after just 20 or so years.
On one level I get it, but those two hull designs are over 120 years old at this point in Canon.
@@SomeCallMeTim47 Right, but what about the Defiant class or the Akira class or Sovereign class or Galaxy or Intrepid, Nebula, etc etc which are all designs that are only 20-30 years old by this point.
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Ok, here's how I'm seeing it, and feel free to disagree. First, all of the TMP Era designs are either owned by Federation colonies for defense, in private hands or have been destroyed/scrapped. That last part is important because I feel it plays into the next bit.
When I saw the new Intrepid I immediately thought of the rather distinctive Akyazi-Akula class which is a TMP-era design that was the first time I'd seen this kind of design.
After watching Star Trek Picard I hated how all the ships were dimly lit like star fleet didn’t have the budget to put lights on the ship
Being back on the Enterprise-D bridge was almost blinding in comparison. Why are modern ships so damn dark?
@@HylianFox3 ikr
@@HylianFox3 I think it's because of the more turbulent times that modern Starfleet ships are built in, and the dim lights let officers adapt to a combat situation where the lights are dimmed to put more power to defense systems faster.
Modern Trek can't come up with a good interior or render a good exterior. The art direction is just bad all around and the writing isn't much better. I'm told season 3 got a lot better in Picard but goddamn I don't wanna sit through that slog of two seasons to get there. 😆
Seeing the original crew on board the ole Galaxy class was pretty touching though.
@@SirEpifire Just start at Season 3. There's as little relation as there can be to the first two seasons. It's a 'reboot' essentially, jettisoning the silly 'rules' imposed in the first two seasons and the dreadful storytelling. A clear decision was made to draw a line between S3 and the other seasons, and you don't need to have seen those to enjoy the...well, the good season.
"Starfleet seems to decommission ships every five years now."
i no rite? It's cool that there's so many new ship classes compared to the "Oh look, yet another Oberth/Miranda/Exclesior" TNG/DS9 era but there's *so* many of them they all must have a very short lifespan.
The new Intrepid even has a close registry number to the Intrepid-class Intrepid
Intrepid! Intrepid! Intrepid!!!
Enterprise F is a big offender.
That bothers me as well. In the time of PIC there should have still been Galaxy and Nebula Class ships flying around. The TNG technical manual stated that the Galaxy class was designed for a 100 year service life, with major refits at 20 year intervals.
Well, new classes, okay, but they are all so ugly and seem to be so similar.
I named my first Klingon Battlecruiser in STO the "I.K.S. Targsauce."
If you know, you know.
Something really cool is that the Intrepid, just like how the titan is a redesign of the Shangri-la, is a 25th centuryified version of his USS Wasp design from the TMP era
As a note, the suffix ( bloody A BC etc) is typically applied to ships that recieve both the name and registry number of a previous ship, the Enterprise A got an A because otherwise keeping its records straight would be problematic.
We see other ships carry established names but typically without the historical numbers. This allows for easy distinction between the ships.
It also seems like some ships get legacy numbers even without the associated name, the Constellations registry number is 1017, making it incongruous with the 17xx scheme that seems to define the class. Apparently 17 is meant to be the 17th cruiser design and the following digits roughly represent the production order. So it seems likely that the Constellations number is in honor of an older ship, plausibly of a Crossfield class ship that predates the Discovery and Glenn (1031 and 1030 respectively) though as the fleet grows larger over time the whole numbering convention breaks down, even more than it was already lol.
Sounds like a better excuse than "that's the decals they had handy when they made 'The Doomsday
Machine'!"
It should be noted that this pattern (reused name, different number) seen on the Intrepid (also Defiant, Hood, Excalibur, etc.) is the way it tends to work in the real world. For example, the real USS Enterprise (CVN-65), which was decommissioned in 2017, is scheduled to be replaced by a new USS Enterprise (CVN-80). She herself was named for the previous USS Enterprise (CV-6).
It's a good looking design I like the forward slung deflector and engineering section.
Watching the opening credits for ST: Voyager has caused me to decide that, if I ever play Star Trek Online, I will name my character Ensign Harry Wang.
Worf didn't have to go through Prune juice, the Prune juice went through him literally, I mean old people drink it to keep regular 😂.
This Intrepid seems more like an advanced scout, hence the sensors a bit Oberth like but less flying coffin.
I usually name my STO ships after Native American rivers. They're so fun to say.
Chattooga, Cuyahoga, Tuskaloosa, Okinagan, Tippecanoe, etc.
You could add Quinault, Nisqually,
Skokomish, Nooksack, Quillayute. These are tribal rivers with fun names.
Kind of bugged me how the Intrepid listed downwards after Ro's shuttle hit the nacelle. I understand why they did it, in order to simulate the ship "sinking", but from a physics perspective, it just seems backward. It probably should have listed up and to the right.
I agree but the scene was still cool as hell.
Fantastic design. She hangs in the air, much like the Refit Enterprise.
Anyone find it ironic that the USS Hikaru Sulu was involved in the destruction of the USS Excelsior?
So we’re all in agreement that the angry, little Duderstadt Class is the 24th/25th century version of the Pioneer Class, right?
For some reason, I haven’t seen many people mention it, maybe because it’s obvious?
Based on the date, the Pioneer seems to be the immediate predecessor to the "Blackhawk" reconnaissance vessel, where they decided the secondary hull was better connected to the aft engineering section than on the forward saucer.
I'll say similarities in I think she's a separate class and an upgraded class on her own
@@rolandmiller5456 The only argument about it being a precursor and not a separate line is that we don't see that configuration represented going forward, suggesting a developmental dead-end.
I consistently go back to my trusty USS Clout Hammer whenever i go back to ST online.
....Always a winner.
You've got to think that a lot of the TNG & Borg buster era ships might not so much have been cast aside when that new ship smell faded, but rather they, like Voyager herself, had gotten so chewed up and repaired in that hasty manner that only wartime demands. ( à la the USS Yorktown CV-5 ) With such being the case, it was seen, on a ship-by-ship basis, that a good many were just too warn out to be viable anymore. It was most likely that a good variety of these ships were going through the Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards to discern their viability when the Romulan Super Nova crisis became the Breaking News story on FNN. With the need so dire for ships Starfleet was raiding all its boneyards whilst at the same time building specialty designs to move as many people as it could handle. If a ship couldn't fit the need to repeatedly lug as many refugees as it was designed to evacuate without requiring an overhaul or refit, then it was likely scrapped to either feed the industrial replicators or provide parts for ships in a better state of condition. It was likely that during the Attack on Mars by the Zhat Vash, everything that couldn't escape was destroyed outright. So, given this rollercoaster ride of happenings, it's none too likely that we'll see too many of those grand ole TNG+ era ships in any great abundance going forward...but when we do, smile and savor.
You know what got me with the romulan evacuation doesn't Romulus have a ton of ships why couldn't they evacuate the people
No Red Dwarf intro this time... Adam, you dissapoint me! 😂
Your sarcasm inspires my own sarcasm. Because you're the hero Starfleet deserves, but not the one it needs right now (name that quote).
I would absolutely agree they did a wonderful job of making something look extremely intimidating.
True story. When I was a child, my mom forced prune juice on me. I thought it was punishment. The whole warrior's drink thing really cracks me up.
Worf became the greatest Klingon since Kah'Less because he was the first regular klingon since Kah'less. They left that sword in space because of the smell.
after watching some ST:O videos from a different youtuber, I like to christen my ships as the USS Extra Parts 😛
man is so annoying that eaglemoss is not arround i would love a xl model of the ships from picard like intrepid and titan a/enterprise g
You can also assume that since the class is called "Duderstadt," there is/was presumably a USS Duderstadt in addition to the ones you mentioned here.
Yeah, of course. The funny Thing is, that "Duderstadt" is a City in the State of Niedersachsen, Germany
Love this design. The secondary hull placement and giant nacelles makes it look like it was built for speed--there's something agile about the sleek design.
i say it again but the intrepid remind so much of a modern day pioneer class
Anyone notice that newer ships in Starfleet only seem to last 20 years or less? I was hoping the Enterprise-D would be recommissioned at the end of Picard, at least to break up this trend.
Planned obsolescence 😆
Still outperforms real life where ships are scrapped before they are commissioned.
Now I want the USS Boaty McBoat face.A scout ship captained by a Scottish captain with a taste for Yorkshire tea tea, white, 2 sugars or "computer, tea, NATO standard" 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂👍
It sounds like the Intrepid needs to be scheduled for Star Fleet Anger Management training.
I have never, ever wanted to name any of my ships in STO by those names, thank you.
What I like about these 2 classes is that they are reasonably sized and buck the trend of vessels just getting bigger over time. There is no logical reason for vessel to be so large unless the mission calls for it.
It's funny because i wanted to rewatch the scene where it rises up and scares the Titans and i typed "Picard season 3 that ship is pissed."
"The ANGRY Ship"
Kirk: Reliant?
Surely not - it's part of one big happy fleet!
I have a feeling that Lieutenant Commander Adam dislikes the word Intrepid ;)
13:10 Ironic that the Hikaru Sulu was one of the ships that fired at the Excelsior.
Since the Excelsior was destroyed, does that mean Elnor is dead?
Rare that season 3 episode 5 of Picard was the only time you see a Duderstadt-class ship. That design looks good except for the positioning of the photon torpedo launchers tucked in the center.
My dreadnaught is called the U.S.S. Rogal Dorn
To be fair, Intrepid is also a name that has a lot of history on Earth as well, most notably with the 'Dry I' that still rests in New York.
Thanks for another amazing video, you always make me smile Lieutenant Commander Adam.
What a dorky looking ship. It's like someone was building a model that only had a saucer and nacelles and then they decided to stick a prostate massager on the underside.
All Federation ship registrations start with NCC. All aircraft registered in the United States start with N. I'm sure this isn't a coincidence.
Duderstat is names after Doug Drexlers wife.
There's one ship class I haven't seen y'all do, and that's the Nova Class. It's my favorite of the First Contact/ Voyager era designs. It's a science vessel based on an escort design.
I mentioned this on another video regarding this ship but as much as I absolutely _adore_ the Intrepid, which believe me I do, I can't help but think that it would've hit even harder than it already does if the Interpid had been replaced with the Enterprise-F in the series.. Sure the Odyssey Class is much larger than the Neo-Conny, but seeing *_The Enterprise_* of all ships compromised by the Changelings would've been a massive gutpunch and also made the stakes even more apparent.
The underslung secondary hull design grew on me over time. Really like the design of the ship overall, and she looks gorgeous from both the side and tilted top profiles
I hate to disagree with the wiki, or memory alpha. But it is painfully obvious that the 24th century Intrepid class was not a long range exploration vessel. Its crew too small, the quaters weren't built for extended cruises away from port, evident by how Kim's neighbor would bang on the bulkheads when he practiced his clarinet because the bulkheads werent built to dampen sound that effectively because the ship wasnt designed to be lived on indefinitely.
Its clear that while the Intrepid made do and did serve well in scientific roles when needed. It was never a science first vessel. Star Fleet had a rule that all ships needed science labs because you never know when your going to be the only ship in the sector to get detailed scans of a temporary anomaly or alien vessel or whatever.
But the Intrepid was incredibly well armed for a ship so small, very heavily automated, being that it was about 1/5 the size of a galaxy but used 1/10th the crew. It had an unusually large compliment of shuttles for a ship its size, and its warp core was excessively large for a ship its size, easily giving the ship more power than it would ever need. It had no kitchen from the launch, with Voyagers being built by Neelix to conserve on replicator energy. It only carried at maximum 3 years of deuterium. A supply that could be wasted much faster if the crew wasnt careful. And the lack of backup systems. They had no hydroponics before the delta quadrant, only a single doctor and 1 nurse for a crew of 141 and not a single crewman with medical training as backup save only for an EMH who proved more than worth his emitter's wait in latinum.
Its obvious. The Intrepid was built as a multipure tactical ship that could be mass produced and be fast. Its necelles are purpose built to deal with the warp 5 speed limit starfleet put in after TNG discovered conventional warp travel of the time damaged subspace. The ships ability to land on a planet and either dislodge large amounts of cargo or personnel directly or even remove and repair entire coils in the field means it was modular and meant for rapid service and deployment. This was Starfleets best attempt at a general purpose ship for the 24th century, an answer to the Klingon bird of prey, a ship that is well armed for almost any tactical scenario. has limited science labs that can serve most needs, and can easily transport resources and personnel quickly across the federation. But its lack of back ups, lack of comforts, and lack of long term storage shows it would never have been intended for deep space.
Also, no astrometrics. No star fleet ship can claim to be an exploration ship if it doesnt have even an astrometrics lab.
Worf was raised on the farm world of Gault, not Earth. The Roshenkos moved to Earth later, where they took on Alexander
I simply haven't heard the word 'Intrepid' enough times in this video. :P
The ship only looks angry because it's borrowed part of the design philosophy from the d7 where there is a protruding hull facing directly at your enemy such as with the deflector array mounted drive section.
One more Intrepid for the road: The real life USS Intrepid is now part of the Intrepid Museum in New York, which also hosts the Space Shuttle Enterprise. Maybe this connection has contributed to the recurrence of the name in Star Trek, or maybe it just really sounds like it should be the name of a starship.
There's nothing unusual about a time honored ship name being reused for a new ship after the previous ship has been destroyed or decommissioned. Real navies do it all the time as a way to honor the legacy of the name. The British Royal Navy has had 15 ships named Enterprise since the 1700s, and the US Navy has had 8, including three aircraft carriers, the latest being the Gerald R. Ford class Enterprise currently under construction right now.
I think the name Intrepid keeps being reused for several reasons. First, it's a good name for an exploratory vessel; I'd expect nothing less for the Intrepid-class USS Voyager to venture to the farthest reaches of the galaxy. Such a mission certainly wouldn't fit for the USS Sitsathomeport. Second, Star Trek from its inception has loved WWII ship names - the American carriers in particular. All three of the Yorktown-class carriers have lent their names to Starfleet vessels (Yorktown, Enterprise, and Hornet) as have the Lexington-class (Lexington and Saratoga) and the Essex-class Intrepid, Princeton, Shangri-La, Valley Forge, Kearsarge, and Franklin (I'm sure I've missed a few). Additionally, the carrier Intrepid has been preserved as a popular museum ship in New York City, lending a readily visited (for American audiences anyway) real world connection. It is somewhat weird from an in-universe perspective that the various Intrepids don't share registry numbers like the numerous Enterprises and Voyagers. It's of course explained from a meta viewpoint: none of the Intrepids has been a "hero" ship.
"Decommissioned every 5 years." Starfleet had a few generations of complacency, then a couple of generations of intense hostile activity. Bound to have ships running out of lifespan very quickly at that point. (Not Worf's fault.)
You watch: Ent-J is the result of 100 years of 'the galaxy is at peace, we can relax'.
Wait, so there's a Wasp class, but the ship _actually_ _named_ Wasp is Hornet class?
Well the name vomes from real world navy. Ww2 . A carrier, I think .
The hornet was the sister ship of enterprise in ww2 ( carrier's) snd constitution class in star fleet . .
But if you type. Uss wasp .star trek . ( try venim geek media) image of the wasp class, and an 8 min video discussion of the class . ( sphere with 3 nacelles early star fleet )
I get the idea of being familiar to the audience. But this is a great example of how the enterprise breaks it's own cannon..why isn't there an intrepid A, B,C, etc... The Potemkin as well...
I so much enjoy the humor you inject into these videos! I hope you never stop producing videos.
So, we only ever see two, or hear of more than four intrepid class starships, so it's possible there just weren't that many of them commissioned, in which case, the fact we don't see any in STP is merely the fact that they were used to the point of breaking. We know voyager was decomm'd pretty quickly after her return, given what she went through, and that was decades before STP, so it's safe to assume they're successors have completely replaced them now. Plus, whilst we see hundreds of ships at earth, we don't see thousands, and an organisation the size of the UFP and its Starfleet would require many times more ships to function, so I'm guessing what we really saw was the primary battlefleet(s), whilst the support fleet(s) of less battle-ready status were trying to fill the gaps for the expected duration of festivities.
I really like this new "Dude" class and can't wait for them to hit STO, she's a real pretty dude for an angry starship. Of course, they'll have to mod the design a little for turrets and omni's (seriously, why do no ships have centreline weapons anymore in Trek?), but I have faith the team will be conscientious in doing so: they're pretty good at ships these days.
I went had a look at Larry Miller's designs and had a right giggle when I read she's supposed to be an FDC, like, she has less IV than a Connie; where are you putting the fighters? (the Hornet is tiny compared to the Dude)
I like how torpedos alway seem to fly so damn slowly. Slower than today's rockets... and in space!
I really love your Trek analysis. Lots of fun Sir:)
I'd be an angry ship were I shoved into ST: Picard too! Poor ship. 😂
I love this design. Refreshingly different 😊
I can’t wait for the USS Obstreperous. That’s the ship I wanna serve on!
it reminds me of the pioneer class starship you get at the start of startrekonline's tos campaign
I named my enterprise j the “Flapjack of DOOM” in Star Trek online.
True! I saw all this previous designs on the site Devianart years ago.
I just wanted to say thank you to Terry. Loved Picard.
If we are talking ship names in STO, one of my characters flies the U.S.S. Thundercougarfalconbird.
The intrepid class - intrepid got its own fan series . "Star Trek intrepid.".
Adam AGAIN No wonder King Charles Shceduled his Coronation today! 😉
As for the video, Intrepid is one of a handful of names used in TOS and reused in the various incarnations of Trek. Maybe you all should do more of them, Consitution, Constellation, Yorktown and of course Defiant! Unless you already did! 😁
I was in trepidation of the word, _intrepid_ , by the end of this video! 😅
It's amazing now, with the right music, angles and staging, a normally inoffensive and inanimate object can appear terrifying 😨
14:50 it screams “Hot Rod”
"The Angry Starship" I will, probably, be the first to say this much for the USS Intrepid, but I found it about as angry as a sleeping kitten. Seriously. The only thing that made it seem angry was the background music they choose to play as the ship recovered and powered back up. Had the USS Titan chose to power up and fired first? They'd have been playing a funeral dirge instead. We could have had a more intimidating vessel, like an Excelsior 2 class or even a Sagan, show up, but what we got was something that looked Starfleet was trying to reinvent a Hoover Vacuum Cleaner instead.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but in the case of this Star Trek : Picard ship design there's an strange similarity to a dual G/C spot stimulator toy.
Why is the hull side profile the same as a "Face massager"😂
well at least they didn't use brittish names.
Imagine, Bittersweet, Battleaxe, Cheerful, Dainty, Pansy, a defiant called - Spanker...
And we are not even getting to the Fairy, Forlic, or... Sprite and... Warsprite (sprite was a military tug build around the same time as the warsprite, so you could have seen the sprite pushing the warsprite around.)
Great review! One correction - the TOS predecessor is Toronado, not tornado.
Intrepid.
The Intrepid accidentally reveals that there is a "DOWN" in the ST Universe, towards which she is pulled and sinks as she loses power. lol.
Mine was the USS ASSKICKER, Intrepid Class NCC-1313
love that we all agree that it was angry
Is it weird that I feel like the Duderstadt class and the Neo-Constitution got their saucers swapped somehow?
they use the same names for ships because there will be no copyright issues if they already own the name
So I've been on board the U.S.S. Intrepid (CV-11) and i can tell ya. I think any of those sailors would have been happier on ANY starfleet ship named intrepid. It was kinda tight quarters in there. Except for the hanger and the flight deck of course.
7:30 They weren’t even on when that happened.
I can imagine this Ship being a Spin-off Class of the Springfield-Class, they have similar hull configurations and if Added to STO, they should include the Springfield aswell.
This ship reminds me of the pioneer class from star trek online TOS era
Ro could have opened the air lock and try her luck if the Titan would be able to beam her up.
Currently the captain of the USS Zitaschlong