Nice selection of stones for our work, now we subscribed to see where your business is at now as compared to this learning video, thank you we are hear to learn from you. We like the small working table box unit the most here that holds the stones and the mess, thank you. Lance & Patrick.
This is the best explained video on shapton stones iv seen, even from shapton themselves. Can I ask two questions please? 1, what is the powder you mentioned used for? And 2, you mentioned that the diagram lapping plate can only be used on 500 grits and higher. How do you flatten your courser 120 grit upto 500 grit. Please note that I am referring to the glass (thin white stones). Thank you
Thank you for watching! The powders are used with the cast iron lapping plate for flattening your stones. The cast iron plate has no abrasive action by itself, and the 3 different grits allow you to lap the whole series of stones from 120 to 30K. The diamond plate is 320 grit so lapping anything less than 320 is not necessarily ideal, although it can be done. On the 120, 200 and 320, the cast Iron plate will work better - especially if you are using and lapping those stones a lot.
@@JendeIndustries hi, and thank you for getting back to me so quickly. If I purchased the shapton hr glass waterstones I will need two different lapping plates, one for the course stones and one for the fine stones. OK that seems clear enough. But what about the powder? Iv only ever used water to flatten my current waterstones and I have no idea what the powder does or how to use it. Is it used to help flatten all the stones? I realise that you are very busy but if you get a chance is there any way you could deminstrate the use of the powder on a stone please?
I have the HaNoKuromaku set and the DGLP; some seriously good equipment. The DGLP is phenomenally fast. The M24 series is excellent too (I don’t have all 5 in this series) and at 24mm thick will last quite some time....downside is you can only get it in/from Japan.
my master, your stones are perfect, they are very beautiful, good luck, good luck, I hope you use it, congratulations. hocam taşlarınız mükemmel çok güzeller elinize sağlık hayırlı olsun inşallah kullanırsınız tebrikler
The 320 in both series are going to wear and dish, as is the nature of coarse stones. I think the glass 320 has a little more aggression overall while the 320 pro has a certain zen-like feel to it and *may be* slightly more solid in terms of dishing. But there really are no major differences between them IMO.
Great Question! The M series is an earlier version of the Pro. The M series stones consist of a bottom half of unusable ceramic base for support and a usable top half of abrasive. The Pros are usable throughout the full thickness.
Yes, but depending on the width of the area you want to polish, you will need to be very careful in your execution of the polish after the 4-6K . Over one inch and you may start seeing streaks at the 8K +. Also, the steel itself will play into how well it polishes.
You have a variety of options - you can use our Kangaroo, Leather, or Nanocloth strops. You can also increase the grit with our CBN and Poly diamond emulsions that go up to 0.025 microns!
Shapton is still producing, but there has been a shift from the US distributor. There won't be any stones in the US until after the new year as a result. We're honestly not sure how it will all play out.
Wolfgang Hedegaard Do you have an official source about this? Even if it's in Japanese? If true, I'm going to have to source my stones sooner rather than later
I use synthatik and daimond for 300 and 600 and arkansss for xtra fine but i want finer and i found dmt 8000 and 16000 shapto but im not sure what is better for the carbon and damascus is it glass hc or the pro yellw if have a clue tell me but i never saw a clip about the dmt 8000 it is a risk to buy but i dont know if it worth or not
K.s.a K.s.a Either series is fine for carbon steel, as long as the edge hardness is under RC 62, otherwise you should use the Glass stones, especially at higher grits. I highly recommend a 2K, 3K, or 4K Shapton stone between the Arkansas and the 8K or 16K Shapton, otherwise you may not get the results you are looking for.
Shapton HNK (pro) are not expensive due to them being only 15mm thick. Everyone should be able to afford 3 or 4 stones of this series. Lap with what you can afford. The DGLP is by far the best in my opinion but other things work too.
gam mal Indeed it is. You must understand the following: There’s regular people who have to sharpen knives to use them, then there’s us waterstone obsessed people who make excuses so we get to sharpen more knives and acquire more stones. ;)
@gam mal - Imagine a world of sharpening where some people in it think average just isn't good enough. We're sure you have your preferred hobbies, such as computer gear, clothes, audio, cars, etc. where you will invest more than just the absolute minimum without blinking an eye. DOes everyone in the world only need one double sided stone? No. There are a wide range of applications for sharpening stones from knives to chisels to scissors to razors to ice augers, all which can benefit from a wide range of stones. Please don't hate on those who are into things of which you are not. Thanks for watching, though!
![My New [ SHAPTON GLASS ] Sharpening Stones!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OyeTGE41PkQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Nice selection of stones for our work, now we subscribed to see where your business is at now as compared to this learning video, thank you we are hear to learn from you. We like the small working table box unit the most here that holds the stones and the mess, thank you. Lance & Patrick.
This is the best explained video on shapton stones iv seen, even from shapton themselves. Can I ask two questions please?
1, what is the powder you mentioned used for?
And
2, you mentioned that the diagram lapping plate can only be used on 500 grits and higher. How do you flatten your courser 120 grit upto 500 grit.
Please note that I am referring to the glass (thin white stones).
Thank you
Thank you for watching! The powders are used with the cast iron lapping plate for flattening your stones. The cast iron plate has no abrasive action by itself, and the 3 different grits allow you to lap the whole series of stones from 120 to 30K. The diamond plate is 320 grit so lapping anything less than 320 is not necessarily ideal, although it can be done. On the 120, 200 and 320, the cast Iron plate will work better - especially if you are using and lapping those stones a lot.
@@JendeIndustries hi, and thank you for getting back to me so quickly.
If I purchased the shapton hr glass waterstones I will need two different lapping plates, one for the course stones and one for the fine stones. OK that seems clear enough.
But what about the powder? Iv only ever used water to flatten my current waterstones and I have no idea what the powder does or how to use it.
Is it used to help flatten all the stones?
I realise that you are very busy but if you get a chance is there any way you could deminstrate the use of the powder on a stone please?
good luck master, take it easy.
eline sağlık ustam kolay gelsin
Thank you, sir! Best to you as well.
I have the HaNoKuromaku set and the DGLP; some seriously good equipment. The DGLP is phenomenally fast. The M24 series is excellent too (I don’t have all 5 in this series) and at 24mm thick will last quite some time....downside is you can only get it in/from Japan.
my master, your stones are perfect, they are very beautiful, good luck, good luck, I hope you use it, congratulations.
hocam taşlarınız mükemmel çok güzeller elinize sağlık hayırlı olsun inşallah kullanırsınız tebrikler
Thank you, sir!
You can rinse your Shapton Pro stones after using them, just in case you don't know.
Yes, but you ultimately will want to lap them as they do dish over time.
Is it right jumping between sharping glass stones such as 600,16000 and 30000 or should I goes through them seriels... Thank you.
Can you compare the 320 pro to the 320 glass?! Which one is the better stone in you're opinion
The 320 in both series are going to wear and dish, as is the nature of coarse stones. I think the glass 320 has a little more aggression overall while the 320 pro has a certain zen-like feel to it and *may be* slightly more solid in terms of dishing. But there really are no major differences between them IMO.
What's the difference between the Pro/kuramaku and the M series? I've read they're pretty similar but wanted to know your experience. Thanks
Great Question! The M series is an earlier version of the Pro. The M series stones consist of a bottom half of unusable ceramic base for support and a usable top half of abrasive. The Pros are usable throughout the full thickness.
Are the pro stones ceramic stones
Great looking product
Dean O Thanks, Dean!
Man that's the largest collection of shapton glass as well as the pro
A perk of being a Shapton dealer :D
Can shapton glass polish the surface of knives
Yes, but depending on the width of the area you want to polish, you will need to be very careful in your execution of the polish after the 4-6K . Over one inch and you may start seeing streaks at the 8K +. Also, the steel itself will play into how well it polishes.
What strop should I use after the 30000 stone?
You have a variety of options - you can use our Kangaroo, Leather, or Nanocloth strops. You can also increase the grit with our CBN and Poly diamond emulsions that go up to 0.025 microns!
I don't believe any strop method could improve upon 30000. Waste of time
Can you advise if Shapton is no longer producing the Glass Stones and you're not restocking them after they're sold out?
Shapton is still producing, but there has been a shift from the US distributor. There won't be any stones in the US until after the new year as a result. We're honestly not sure how it will all play out.
That's unfortunate. Just have to wait and see I guess.
tweixian
Shapton Glass has been discontinued in Japan. They are supposedly to be available only in the West here on out.
Wolfgang Hedegaard Do you have an official source about this? Even if it's in Japanese? If true, I'm going to have to source my stones sooner rather than later
tweixian
Shapton.co.jp
It’s either in the FAQ or under the Glass product section.
what is the best for carbon steel
I like the #320, 1,500, 2K and 5K Pro and the #320, 1K, 3K, 6K Glass for carbon steel.
I use synthatik and daimond for 300 and 600 and arkansss for xtra fine but i want finer and i found dmt 8000 and 16000 shapto but im not sure what is better for the carbon and damascus is it glass hc or the pro yellw if have a clue tell me but i never saw a clip about the dmt 8000 it is a risk to buy but i dont know if it worth or not
K.s.a K.s.a Either series is fine for carbon steel, as long as the edge hardness is under RC 62, otherwise you should use the Glass stones, especially at higher grits. I highly recommend a 2K, 3K, or 4K Shapton stone between the Arkansas and the 8K or 16K Shapton, otherwise you may not get the results you are looking for.
Good thanx for help
K.s.a K.s.a Anytime!
Where can I buy this stones?
The merchandise sitting on that table is valued at $4126.53. Apparently sharpening knives by Shapton is not for the average person.
Well, you don't need everything - but it is sure nice to have the choices!!! You really only need about 2-5 stones, and the lapping plate.
Shapton HNK (pro) are not expensive due to them being only 15mm thick. Everyone should be able to afford 3 or 4 stones of this series. Lap with what you can afford. The DGLP is by far the best in my opinion but other things work too.
gam mal
Indeed it is.
You must understand the following:
There’s regular people who have to sharpen knives to use them, then there’s us waterstone obsessed people who make excuses so we get to sharpen more knives and acquire more stones.
;)
@gam mal - Imagine a world of sharpening where some people in it think average just isn't good enough. We're sure you have your preferred hobbies, such as computer gear, clothes, audio, cars, etc. where you will invest more than just the absolute minimum without blinking an eye. DOes everyone in the world only need one double sided stone? No. There are a wide range of applications for sharpening stones from knives to chisels to scissors to razors to ice augers, all which can benefit from a wide range of stones. Please don't hate on those who are into things of which you are not. Thanks for watching, though!
Jende Industries, LLC
'Hate' is a powerful word!
'Catch more flies with honey!'
;
I'm so jealous lol
All it takes is time and money! :D