Shapton Pro Stones Review by Chefknivestogo
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- At Chefknivestogo, you can see a demonstration of the Shapton Pro stones in use. I'm sharpening a Richmond Artifex 240mm Stainless wa gyuto and the stones used in the video are the Shapton Pro 320, 1K and 5K. I also give some sharpening tips and demonstrate a few accessories such as the felt deburring block, naniwa sink bridge and dmt slurry stone.
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This was very helpful. So you're saying as long as I keep the same angle all the time it really doesn't matter if let's say the factory angle is at 11° and I sharpen at... 13°?
Right. The stones will win. If you sharpen at a wider angle you'll be sure to hit the edge right away and will make your job a little easier.
@@ChefknivestogoVideos got it. Thanks for the prompt reply 🙂
Thanks! Yes I'm using my ipad for this video. It works well as long as i don't bump into it with my shoulder. :)
Will you ever export in Europe ?
It's a bit of a mess to buy directly from US
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Can you compare the 320 pro to the 320 glass?
The Glass with low grit tends wear badly
How are you lapping the stones? Using the ultra-expensive Shapton diamond glass lapping plate? Also wouldn't a Nagura stone give you some cleaning up and slurry better than the diamond plate as it might be causing some dishing in the stone surface? I am learning this and watching lots of videos, your approach seems to be the direction I am going in for my knives. I did get a Shapton glass stone at 500 grit to move from the 320 to the 1000. I am thinking about a 15-16k for some of my japanese knives.
+Moraine LAKE We flatten with an Atoma 140 grit diamond plate. www.chefknivestogo.com/at14dipl.html
+mark e Richmond I went for the DMT lapping plate, about as half as expensive as the Shapton. Plus let me say your technique is one of the few that looks correct. I see a lot of people not checking for the burr and not moving their fingers along the blade while it's being worked. Thanks for putting up such a valuable instructional video!
+Moraine LAKE Thanks! Yes the DMT is also a good alternative. This is the one we recommend from them: www.chefknivestogo.com/dmtextracoarse.html
Atoma 400 flat-terns these beautifully
This comment right here sums up how poorly this stuff was explained to end users. The idea what you need a 500 to go from 320 to 1k in the sp line is insane. The first thing that folks should understand about these things. GRIT RATINGS ARE ARBITRARY. There are 3 types of stones. 1. Course/grinding stones. Sometimes called shaping stones. 2. Sharpening stones. 3. Finishing and polishing stones. Lines like the shapton which are general use have all 3 types within the grit range. The 120. 220 and 320 are the course stones. The 1k to 2k are the sharpening stones. The 5k, 8k, and 12k are the polishing stones. You need one stone from each type to have a full set. The 1k in the sp line is actually more like an 800 btw which is fine. You just gotta know your gear. If you stay up on maintaining you knives, you can go years without ever having to even user a sharpening stone assuming the knife has a decent modern steel. All depends on the user and how they like to use and maintain their stuff. It's all very nuanced and personal.
If you want sp, which are nice very hard minimally friable ceramic alumina sng stones, I suggest the 220. 2000. And any one of the finishers. I like the 12k a lot, but they're all fine. The 5k is great too. It's very hard and glassy. Works really great for a lot of things. The 12k is a bit softer and more friable than the 5k and leaves a very high polish. Any of them are great for routine maintenance, deburring, etc. You DO NOT NEED more than 1 of each stone type. Want, sure. Need, no.
Just received the Shapton Pro stones for the Edge Pro Apex (ordered from you). I seem to have made a mistake, as I thought I was purchasing ceramic stones. Only the "glass" stones are ceramic, is that correct?
where do u buy you4 Shannon's? can they work on 1095 and harder steels to like xpm3v?
I am sorry for asking such a simple question
But what is the difference with shapton glass stones ?
I believe the glass stones are thicker (5 mm against 15 for the pro stones) but that they are also more durable
I am looking for buying a stone set and I am hesitating between these two
Plz apologize for my bad english but this is not my mother tongue ;)
glass stones are 5mm thick, much thinner than the pro stones. in order to prevent breaking of such a thing stone they are glued on to a glass back. can't comment on durability though.
The glass stones are newer. They are hard stones as well, idk if they're quite as hard, but they are quite a bit more friable than the pro in a very controlled manner. They cut extremely well. They have excellent user feedback. They are very very nice sng ceramic alumina stones. Honestly I think it's likely the best one on the market. The downsides is you only 5 mm of abrasive, and for that it's quite expensive. But it's a very nice stone.
I flatten my stones with a silicon carbide sandpaper on a glass table :)
Works well for softer stones, not so great very hard stuff imo.
@@ognjenvesic9515 works well on my shaptons
Wouldn’t you get a better edge if you used a 2000 grit stone in between the 1000 and 5000?
Smaller steps up would result in a smoother edge, but that isn't what he was going for. With a kitchen knife a bit of tooth helps to go through stuff (like tomato or sausage skins) that a smoother edge may want to skate off. Besides, an edge that smooth wouldn't last too long in the kitchen with use anyway. A lot of people seem to stick to a 2 stone regimen for kitchen knives, a 1k-ish stone and a 5k-ish, give or take a step in grit.
@@DefMunkyYT I think what you're trying to say is that a dulled polished edge will cut less than a dulled toothier edge. Like serrated edges will work for a long time without being sharpened.
Not really. There is such a thing as too smooth an edge for a specific job. Sushi and meats would benefit from a smoother edge while things with smooth skins benefit from a toothier edge as the smooth edge will skate off. I've personally felt the difference between the two and I like the toothier edge straight off the stones due to the fact I use my knife for everything. Has nothing to do with how either dulls.
In short YES. I have gone from the 1000 to 5000, it's fine but it takes longer and the polish is not as good. The 2000 is a great stone and makes it a lot easier to step up to the 5000. The 1000 is more like an 800 grit in my opinion compared to many other 1000 grit stones I have used.
@@buddhamack1491 is it better to buy the 2k + 5k shapton pro than the 1k +5k?
which stones are better. these ones or the shapton glass ones..??
Pros :) Everybody that has the glass says it
Pros
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