Connor was not irrelevant. The donuts spooked everyone. Everyone was ready to do it before the donuts arrived. They also said, "These are relevant Donuts". Connor was the first one to fold. Because he did, it got easier for Roman and Shiv to fold too.
You guys probably realized this by now (hopefully) but Ken isn't doing any of this for the "good of the world" or for the victims. He simply saw a chance to get back at his father and break free from him and is doing this to try and win for once. A big giveaway for that is how he reacted to his siblings when they refused to join him. Especially Shiv, considering how he's presenting himself as a "feminist" to the public.
I think Kendall's reaction to Connor dropping out is the reason this fell apart. Not that they care about Connor's feelings but it reminded Roman and Shiv that Ken would treat them like he's Logan and at the end of the day that's the game they're all playing.
Exactly this. I think that turning down the opportunity was also a test for Kendall. If he reacted differently they might still turn him down, but they would eventually come back to him on their own. They would see that he's actually different and feel safe to join him. They pushed him around and his façade fell apart quickly.
3:55 “you tell yourself you’re a good person but you’re not a good person.” Boy if that isn’t Shiv’s political identity in a nutshell. Kendall is the same btw
People keep saying that but I don't think Shiv has some morally superior political leanings. Saying no to a white supremacy facist is a pretty easy choice.
Kendall isn't doing this because he thinks it's right. He's doing it because it's a play. This is the same guy who just a couple episodes essentially called everything that happened on the cruises a "witch-hunt" now all of a sudden he's saying they all knew the whole time?
I love the acting in this episode, just the second of doubt you see in Roman when the sibs told him that Logan went over him and put Gerri as interim CEO instead of him... you could also now see who the most loyal child was (Roman) but its still up in the air why he's the most loyal, is he just scared of his dad?
@@anais6654 it isn't a quid-pro-quo, they are all just horrible people and can be whatever they want towards each other for my personal enjoyment as a viewer
This was a slow episode but the ending was intense. Kendall burning all his siblings was hard to watch. I think what kids need to do is pave their own paths, start their own businesses or careers. Stop trying to take over dad’s shop because Logan doesn’t want to give it to any of them and the whole operations stinks of compromise anyway. And I mean did Logan inherit the company from his dad? No! He created it from scratch so if you really want to be like Logan you should go create your own success from the ground up!
Yeah but she shot her own career in the head as soon as Logan mentioned her possible succession. The kids need to break the spell of the lure imo. Just stay on their own courses. Connor is doing the best at it so far.
Yeah but Logan and the kids had completely different upbringings. You can't be mad they're not capable of forging their own path like Logan did when the experiences that shaped them are completely different. Their entire lives have revolved around their father and the company, that's what their brains are wired to value above all else.
@@milfordgunnie4599Logan did it on purpose, though. He played on her emotions and desire for his validation. Since he raised her to be that way, it's extra messed up.
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The thing with Kendall as I'm sure y'all know now is he melts down a lot like Roman said in the first episode of this season. He talks a big game and the siblings were considering it but his follow-through record sucks. Unforutnately, Kendall's reputation and past will always precedes him. Also the kids know that Logan would be toast if they go with Kendall. He would likely die in prison and their family company would lose a significant amount of clout so if they would turn on Logan it would have to be very promising.
"I'm here to represent your interests legally, and fight for you!" OK, awesome.... "AND with your case, we'll destroy capitalism and dismantle the patriarchy..." I'm sorry what?
the kendal glazing needs to stop he had two options take the blame and go jail or expose his dad he is not doing this out of the goodness of his heart be very clear on that
we're going to never stop glazing Kendall! He is corporate Jesus! He believes he is Corporate Jesus too! (Probably what makes you cringe too because he believes the delusion/wild takes).
@@anais6654 he is a piece of shit, but he wasn't wrong about her And she isn't a woman, no more than Roman and Kendall are men. She is a Roy sibling first, she literally has a token male husband to puppet and abuse. And when she wants she brings this pseudo-left leaning persona of a woman in a patriarchy and cries about it a bit to get something out of it. Have you seen Gerri do it? Shiv is one of the most priveledged people presented on the show, and if her sibling want to play her and get under her skin because she is a woman - good, she plays just as rough if not more. Imagine going "uhhh it is sexists aaaaa", like cmon, what it is, a brave woman against the world of men? gimme a break, she is a Roy sibling first
Just because he said that, doesn’t mean he’s not doing it for a real reason. The show literally proves that. That’s why people like Kendall. The show constantly shows us Kendall, and even Roman are actually good people. Shiv pretends and says she’s a good person.
“Girls count double now, didn’t you know? It’s only your teats that give you any value!” Kendall was ind of spitting here, Shiv would have never gotten the role had it not been for needing to slap a woman like a bandaid over the cruises situation.
@@DanLanningPRTeam Shiv says in season 1 that Logan always preferred Kendall and Roman. She cries tears of joy when she gets offered the CEO title in season 2. She made a career outside Waystar because she never thought that Logan would give her the top job.
Tf kinda spittin. That is the logic that in real life has people saying anyone not a white man only got their spot because of quotas or dei, or whatever tf other than merit. Foh. Logan uses them all. Kendall is not excluded
Agreed and I think Logan just wants to pit them against one another and have them fighting for his approval. He knows he's not gonna pick Shiv as the final ceo. If she worked at waystar as long as her brothers then she'd be a real option, but that's not the case. She's a convenient shield for Logan.
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Ahsoka reaction wann ?
don't wanna comment on the "there wouldn't be a show" but the fact navi isn't here says enough
wasted opportunities
Logan only wanted a hug from Shiv because the paparazzi were there, he wanted her seen publicly supporting him. She know that so she stay in the car.
Connor was not irrelevant. The donuts spooked everyone. Everyone was ready to do it before the donuts arrived. They also said, "These are relevant Donuts". Connor was the first one to fold. Because he did, it got easier for Roman and Shiv to fold too.
You guys probably realized this by now (hopefully) but Ken isn't doing any of this for the "good of the world" or for the victims. He simply saw a chance to get back at his father and break free from him and is doing this to try and win for once. A big giveaway for that is how he reacted to his siblings when they refused to join him. Especially Shiv, considering how he's presenting himself as a "feminist" to the public.
I definitely think that Ken has a desire to do the right thing but it is often overpowered by his other feelings
@@nolaw7949 yup! And its truly sad how he lets it control him
This is probably the dream team of the Normies for me. The chemistry is 🔥. Need this team back for HotD
Agreed!!!
I also don't care for Market girl.
Congratulations Rana for getting married!
“It’s a joke but he actually hits you.” Hot DAMN that’s Romans character in a nutshell.
The faith they have in Kendall is so adorable
I think Kendall's reaction to Connor dropping out is the reason this fell apart. Not that they care about Connor's feelings but it reminded Roman and Shiv that Ken would treat them like he's Logan and at the end of the day that's the game they're all playing.
Exactly this. I think that turning down the opportunity was also a test for Kendall. If he reacted differently they might still turn him down, but they would eventually come back to him on their own. They would see that he's actually different and feel safe to join him. They pushed him around and his façade fell apart quickly.
3:55 “you tell yourself you’re a good person but you’re not a good person.” Boy if that isn’t Shiv’s political identity in a nutshell.
Kendall is the same btw
People keep saying that but I don't think Shiv has some morally superior political leanings. Saying no to a white supremacy facist is a pretty easy choice.
@@the_crypter agreed saying no to white supremacy is an easy choice. It’s not as simple as that.
Say what you will about Roman, he knows he's not a good person.
Kendall isn't doing this because he thinks it's right. He's doing it because it's a play.
This is the same guy who just a couple episodes essentially called everything that happened on the cruises a "witch-hunt" now all of a sudden he's saying they all knew the whole time?
I love the acting in this episode, just the second of doubt you see in Roman when the sibs told him that Logan went over him and put Gerri as interim CEO instead of him... you could also now see who the most loyal child was (Roman) but its still up in the air why he's the most loyal, is he just scared of his dad?
That and also because he wants his dad’s love, and to make him proud so he’s no longer seen as the runt.
When Kendall is feeling himself, he is the worst version of himself
the way ken speaks to shiv at the end is qtotally sexist but he dares to say that he does everything for the victims lol
@@mhernandez5624i’m not talking about Shiv i’m talking about Ken you know that Shiv can be a asshole AND Ken can be sexist right?
@@mhernandez5624 Well, exactly. They're both exactly the same. He's the real her, and she's the real him.
@@mhernandez5624i’m talking about ken not shiv. Shiv can be a asshole AND ken can be sexist
@@mhernandez5624 so because she undermines a sexual assault Ken can be sexist toward her ?
@@anais6654 it isn't a quid-pro-quo, they are all just horrible people and can be whatever they want towards each other for my personal enjoyment as a viewer
You guys are awesome
Histrionic and Meretricious is a way to describe what Kendall is doing
Such a special season
This was a slow episode but the ending was intense. Kendall burning all his siblings was hard to watch.
I think what kids need to do is pave their own paths, start their own businesses or careers. Stop trying to take over dad’s shop because Logan doesn’t want to give it to any of them and the whole operations stinks of compromise anyway. And I mean did Logan inherit the company from his dad? No! He created it from scratch so if you really want to be like Logan you should go create your own success from the ground up!
I mean they did try to pave their own paths look at Shiv with politics, Logan just want to control all his kids
Yeah but she shot her own career in the head as soon as Logan mentioned her possible succession. The kids need to break the spell of the lure imo. Just stay on their own courses. Connor is doing the best at it so far.
Yeah but Logan and the kids had completely different upbringings. You can't be mad they're not capable of forging their own path like Logan did when the experiences that shaped them are completely different. Their entire lives have revolved around their father and the company, that's what their brains are wired to value above all else.
@@milfordgunnie4599Logan did it on purpose, though. He played on her emotions and desire for his validation. Since he raised her to be that way, it's extra messed up.
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who do you think is going to win??
Loved your reaction as always💗
You should check out society of the snow, i would love to hear what you have to say about that one
The thing with Kendall as I'm sure y'all know now is he melts down a lot like Roman said in the first episode of this season. He talks a big game and the siblings were considering it but his follow-through record sucks. Unforutnately, Kendall's reputation and past will always precedes him. Also the kids know that Logan would be toast if they go with Kendall. He would likely die in prison and their family company would lose a significant amount of clout so if they would turn on Logan it would have to be very promising.
3:55 Ok Kettle! The nerve of you to say that to Pot.
Definitely a fun episode.
10:15 We just witnessed a murder
in case yall haven't seen it there's an amazing Succession parody by Ben Cahn on youtube
Team Kendall baby we don’t need them! Ken can do it all alone! They’ll wish they were on his team he’s so girlboss and strong!
Jess Jordan. Remember it.
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"I'm here to represent your interests legally, and fight for you!"
OK, awesome....
"AND with your case, we'll destroy capitalism and dismantle the patriarchy..."
I'm sorry what?
I called my Grandfather “gramps” just one time and I’ve regretted it ever since. There’s just something insulting or condescending about it.
the kendal glazing needs to stop he had two options take the blame and go jail or expose his dad he is not doing this out of the goodness of his heart be very clear on that
I know right? he say sexist remarks to shiv and then claim that he is doing this for the victims he truly doesnt give a fuck
we're going to never stop glazing Kendall! He is corporate Jesus! He believes he is Corporate Jesus too! (Probably what makes you cringe too because he believes the delusion/wild takes).
@@anais6654 he is a piece of shit, but he wasn't wrong about her
And she isn't a woman, no more than Roman and Kendall are men. She is a Roy sibling first, she literally has a token male husband to puppet and abuse. And when she wants she brings this pseudo-left leaning persona of a woman in a patriarchy and cries about it a bit to get something out of it. Have you seen Gerri do it?
Shiv is one of the most priveledged people presented on the show, and if her sibling want to play her and get under her skin because she is a woman - good, she plays just as rough if not more.
Imagine going "uhhh it is sexists aaaaa", like cmon, what it is, a brave woman against the world of men? gimme a break, she is a Roy sibling first
Just because he said that, doesn’t mean he’s not doing it for a real reason. The show literally proves that. That’s why people like Kendall. The show constantly shows us Kendall, and even Roman are actually good people. Shiv pretends and says she’s a good person.
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I was saying this till the trailer comes 😟
Y’all should react to Ramy !
21:31 and people say Pat is wrong all the time..
He was wrong again, Greg is far from dumb. He's playing the game expertly.
Greg is not dumb. 😂😂
Sandy and Stewy would have the advantage if the kids burn down Logan. How do they not see that. Gerri was right
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“Girls count double now, didn’t you know? It’s only your teats that give you any value!”
Kendall was ind of spitting here, Shiv would have never gotten the role had it not been for needing to slap a woman like a bandaid over the cruises situation.
Then again, Shiv probably would have gotten more chances from Logan if she was a man. Roman was COO despite being a knucklehead after all.
@@Serryy we don’t know exactly why Shiv chose not to be involved in the company from the jump
@@DanLanningPRTeam Shiv says in season 1 that Logan always preferred Kendall and Roman. She cries tears of joy when she gets offered the CEO title in season 2. She made a career outside Waystar because she never thought that Logan would give her the top job.
Tf kinda spittin. That is the logic that in real life has people saying anyone not a white man only got their spot because of quotas or dei, or whatever tf other than merit. Foh. Logan uses them all. Kendall is not excluded
Agreed and I think Logan just wants to pit them against one another and have them fighting for his approval. He knows he's not gonna pick Shiv as the final ceo. If she worked at waystar as long as her brothers then she'd be a real option, but that's not the case. She's a convenient shield for Logan.
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hate kendall and shiv. roman and logan are great. they are evil but at least they know what they are.