SONY RX1R III: Leica Q3 will meet its match
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- In this video, I delve into the exciting world of potential specs and features of the Sony RX1R III, a camera that aims to go head-to-head with the Leica Q3.
A Long-Awaited Competitor
Sony has catered to a wide range of photography needs, but one gap remains to be filled - a direct competitor to the Leica Q3. The Sony RX1R III is rumored to be the solution to this, potentially offering photographers a compact, high-resolution, 35mm full-frame camera that can rival the best.
Cutting-Edge Improvements
From what we've heard, Sony is pulling out all the stops to make the RX1R III a true powerhouse. The camera is expected to feature a brand new autofocus system, promising lightning-fast and precise focusing for both photography and video shooting. Additionally, the video specs are rumored to be greatly improved, opening up exciting possibilities for content creators.
Redefining Optics
Photographers can't wait to see what Sony has in store for the RX1R III's lens. The expectations are high, with some speculating the possibility of an all-new 35mm fixed lens with a wider aperture, delivering stunning image quality and beautiful bokeh. This enhancement could elevate the RX1R III to new heights in the world of compact cameras.
Enhanced User Experience
Sony is known for pushing boundaries when it comes to user experience, and the RX1R III is likely to be no exception. We anticipate a new flip-style screen that enhances flexibility in shooting angles and composition, along with a permanent electronic viewfinder (EVF) to make capturing images even more seamless.
Completing the Sony Ecosystem
The RX1R III could be the missing piece in Sony's diverse camera lineup, fulfilling the need for a compact, high-resolution, full-frame camera. This addition would complete their ecosystem, offering photographers and videographers an array of options for every creative endeavor.
Sooner Than You Think!
Rumors are circulating about Sony's new full-frame camera, and all signs point to the imminent arrival of the RX1R III. With the recent releases of other advanced cameras, the anticipation for the RX1R III is higher than ever.
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Would you Choose a Sony RX1R III over a Leica Q3? Let me know your thoughts down below👇
I have both the q3 have some limited advantages but the rx still superior in afc and eye af and many other aspects. Batteries are cheap to get. the only reasons sony didn't put out the rx1r iii is that the mark ii still superior or in paar to everything around.
Just to add some info to your video.
- The rx1r ii is way tinier as the q3 (i own both)
- battery life isn't so terrible if one set the camera properly. In general is suffer more if stay long in stanby. With a battery i get 200/300 fotos which isn't bad. For a full day shooting 5 to 6 batteries are needed
- the camera is 1mm thicker of the z batteries, so i hope that they increse the size max 20%. To keep it small. The lens altough good need image stabilization and new motors. So it should be redesigned. I do hope they leave it with the same design. The pop up could be fixed and sturdy and integrate a flash. Ae-l butto replaced with a joystick, pop up mechanism for a 3 or 2 way selector for drive mode (singleshot, multiple shot af, multipleshot af firstframe)
- One fn button on the exposure compensation wheel and one on the af-c af-s selector
-manual focus switch like in the leica q
@@StreetMusicReportage The Q3 graphically on the screen shows you the focus points moving according, but when I open my dngs I realized that eyes for example are not 100% of the time in focus. Probably 75%
@@GastonShutters yes the q3 is still unreliable with eye af in many scenarios.
Nope. 35mm is a deal breaker for me. I have a Q2 and 47MP allows for a very nice 35mm crop. 60MP will be even better but not that critical. I waited for the Q2 over the Q because 24MP was not good enough to crop a lot. Q2 made up for that. The lens is so bloody sharp it is ridiculous. My Q3 is on order because of the better low light and autofocus performance than the Q2.
The RX1-R is not slightly smaller - it is *significantly* smaller, in feel, actual dimensions and weight. I sold my old RX1-R mark I when I bought a Q2M, and still haven't forgiven myself. The Q series are wonderful cameras, but you cannot beat the color rendering and compactness of the RX-1.
Yeah. Agreed. I may sell my Q3 in fact. My A7CR has taken its place.
Being an owner of a Q2M and Sony a7iv and a7rv with both sigma 24mm 1.4 and GM 50mm 1.4 I won’t even consider selling the Q2M.
It’s just TOO Good!
Sony really needs to jump on this. I would instantly purchase a RX1R iii with updated specs.
Agreed
I have the RX1RII sitting on my desk. Two things:
1) It's battery life is bad when you're taking photos (especially in cold weather). But on standby (i.e. on but screen off) it lasts for ever. At least all day.
2) It's significantly smaller and lighter than the Leica Q series.
How do you like it’s autofocus.
I have both, the mk i and II. The autofocus on the mkII is pretty good, especially for its age. On the mkI its not so good, but usable. Both, but especially the mkI with its contras AF System only got its problems in low light situation. But they both make stunning pictures. There is something special about that lens. Wide open the RX1s are pretty champions. The transition from Focus to out of focus really is special. The Battery-Problem can be managed with a lot of batteries. These things are everywhere and cheap.
DEFINITELY would choose RX1R III over the Leica Q3. I've had the Leica Q and Q2 and thought the Sony RX1R (and the RX1R II) rendered images better and are SIGNIFICANTLY smaller, too. There is something really special about the RX1R.
I hope it comes out
Exactly. It is a special/unique lens. Unmatched.
I wish they make the new one with a 40mm f2 (or larger) lens.
How much I hope Sony is listening.
Hahaha me too
Yes. This camera needs to be made now. Small size, moderately fast f1.8 28mm or 35mm fixed lens, resolution of 33mp or 61mp (I don’t mind), fast AI Af, good 5m dot EVF, and 4k 60p 4:2:2. If they charge £3,500 it’d be a bargain compared to the Leica Q3
Amen to all that!
I hope it’s a 28mm 🙏🏽
I’ve been waiting for this for 6 years
Me too!
If Sony can incorporate it's curved sensor and make the RX1Riii weatherproof, with a 35mm f2.0, and use a FZ100 capacity battery. Even with a 42 megapixel sensor, I would be sold.
Why do we need a curved sensor? Just curious
@@GastonShutters The Sony prototypes suggest that it may be lead to smaller lenses, better corner sharpness.
I hope it’s true!
Most of my instagram posts are done with RX1Rm2. I’m still carrying it on me everyday. The sensor is still holding up to today’s competitions and the only ‘made in Japan’ Sony camera one can find! I don’t worry about battery life, coz I always carry two extras with me.
bro, what's your ig? i want to take a look of your work ☺️ I got really interested with the rx line of sony today 😅 cheers!
Awesome man! Share your IG if you don’t mind.
I agree with everything you said, it would need to to have the 50MP A1 Sensor not the 60MP A7R5. It would also need the a5 evf to the left, and all the ports and ND filter. Probably looking at $4500, but it would be the perfect compliment to my a6700 and I would prefer the RX1 R3 over an a7cr. Good insight Gaston!
Yeah 50MP could be a better choice. Agreed. Glad you liked the info
@@GastonShutters Yeah the performance of that stacked sensor is the best in the line up. Love all the options Sony is giving us...
Agreed. Sony is missing this camera and they are set! Another segment they tried but failed unfortunately was in the action camera space. But that’s another segment they may pick up again
Totally agree with u. I have the q3 and the rx1rii. The sony is still in many fields better. The mark iii should be a mini a1 with the exact same specs. The would need to do it bigger to have the same batteries and ios in the lens. It would be nice a 3 focal lenght lens sony fe trio 28-35-50 f2 replacing the macro ring with a not continous zoom ring. Even better if they made a 16-21-28 wide version. They could price them 7000€ i would still buy then.
I want Sony to make it. And please don’t ditch the viewfinder
The Rx1r mark III with improved autofocus and 60 megapixels is all I want. What's holding me back from the Leica Q3 is it's significantly larger than my Rx1r mark I (which I love). Also IBIS would be a nice addition but not at the expense of increasing the size of the camera.
Agreed 100%
absolutly LOVE my RX1R ll! I dont care how old it is, its the perfect camera to bring along with my A7rV when I simply want to go to dinner or a walk and dont want to lug around the bid stuff. The image quality is amazingly good and im=n many cases I have to check in lightroom to confirm which camera took the shot Im editing. in so mnay cases ive been surprised to find it was the RX1R ll that took the shot. Dont get caught up in the latest, greatest syndrome, this camera is an amazing performer!!
True. Even the older Sony A7R still produces an incredible image.
I’ll never give up on my rx1r2
I just picked one up on eBay for 1850. Will see how good it is !
I would love to see Sony work on their industrial design. I love their hardware but much prefer the user experience of my Leica.
For the RX1R iii I just want to see the basics knocked out of the park. Lens, battery life, stabilization, auto focus, and, like you mentioned, the EVF.
Regardless, I'll most likely be buying one if they make it.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the comment.
Been waiting fir Rlll fir so long, would order it without seeing it.
Hahaha me too. I acquired the RX1RII. That camera still so good in 2024!
As always thank you for that review. Excellent information
🫶thank you for stopping my
Price will be around 4K .. which is insane 😮
Internal storage and 5g esim should be a standard in every camera
I agree
The RX1R II has PDAF, face and eye AF. I use it all the time.
I thought it was contrast base. But it works really good.
We can hope. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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I hope so as I’ve owned both RX1s and both Qs so far. But I have to tell you Leica doesn’t care what Sony do, none of their cameras will impact the sale of Leica cameras. It’s just a different market. I agree the RX1 and Q overlap but very few customers will really be debating which one to buy
Thanks for sharing your comment
The Sony RX10 Mk4 is truly awesome
What about the Sony A7CR with the 50mm f/1.8 or the 40mm G f/2.5 lens compared to the Leica Q3? It has the bigger battery and better autofocus. Cheers!
A much better option than the q3 in my opinion
Can they do retractable lens like GR to make it even smaller? Only when the lens is in the body it can be pocketable.
Hmm I doubt they’ll be able to make a fast retractable lens. With AF and all that. But that’s a question for the engineers
@@GastonShutters well, not a must. It does look good to have the current lens design.
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I do not need 60Mp files! Too much. Even 40 is a lot. Anyway, hurry up Sony, and please keep the price below 3K!
Hurry!
Rx1R m3 is very welcome
I eagerly anticipate the release of the Sony RX100 Mark VIII, hoping for exceptional specifications at a price point of €1499.
I'm are prepared for this investment My desired specifications include:
-4K resolution at 60 fps with 10-bit depth
-4K capability at 120 fps with 10-bit depth
-Integration of a high-quality 3.5mm audio jack
-Aperture options of at least f/1.4 or f/1.8 to facilitate captivating background blur
-Utilization of Sony's latest and most advanced 1-inch sensor technology
-Implementation of 32-bit audio recording directly within the camera, a feature that would be truly remarkable
-Integration of USB-C for convenient charging from power bank batteries
-Enhanced touchscreen functionality
-Improved software interface
-Better lowlight video recording like a a7s3
-Maintaining the renowned build quality characteristic of the RX100 series, ensuring durability akin to that of a tank.
Take my money Sony please bring back the rx100 line up please in God's name.
God bless Japan for best tech in the world.
Same here !
Monochrome variant and 28mm f1.x lens please. Everything else I agree with. Imagine 61MP monochrome photos. Imagine the details and range of tones! Yes please. Internal memory. Tick. Large battery. Tick. Good EVF and tilt screen. Tick. I'd buy that. I love the photos I'm getting from my Sony a7 and would love to be able to step up to a camera this good. @Sony ... please?
That’a an awesome request. But I think the monochrome market is so niche that I don’t see Sony doing something unless is for a larger market grab.
With all of those features it’ll be the same size as the a7c, just with a fixed prime lens.
The RX1RII is actually smaller.
long overdue that this model is renewed.
I think the biggest problem is the battery. this is the worst battery on the market. If the battery gets bigger, it no longer fits into the small housing and that's exactly what's great about the camera.
Sure, autofocus, megapixels, display and EF resolution have to be improved, but the new A7R series already have that.
I sold my X100V and bought an RX1R2. love her
Indeed man
The body of the camera is actually TOO small for that lens giving way to worse ergonomics and handlingS a little longer and wider will NOT hurt but only HELP the RX1riii be better than it’s predecessors.
For Sony to stay in the lead in this segment - and I think they can - they should release a Medium Format version of this camera with all their great components (AF, Sensor, etc). I think they could charge 6000 for that and it would sell.
Interesting
Yo this would kinda be the move for Sony, would be cool af to see
coming soon? 8 months later we still don’t have a MkIII. starting to lose the faith
Yeah they need to hurry up
Would be very nice, modern AI AF, good viewfinder, display with good resolution, 4k/60, 35 or 28mm 1.8 or 1.4. Don't need 61MP, maybe the fast Sensor of the A1, wich is imo quality wise the best sensor from Sony in the moment, and 50MP is far enough I think.
Yeah the 50MP sensor would be enough. Even the 33MP
If they could just put the Rii/Riii sensor with new processor in this or the new a7c I'd be all over it. Riii sensor imo is the best made. Pair it with new tech and it would be gold. I returned my Riv after a week of having it and still rock Riii's. I have the Rv and really don't use it much.
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Cool video but your wishlist is very lofty. Screen…battery…viewfinder….I doubt Sony will give us all of that.
They will!
Just found this video 8 months later... so has Sony put this out. RX 1r3
Not yet ….
α7CR instead？@@GastonShutters
Yeah. 👍
Love my RX1R. still a most used camera in my bag. wish they put a 28mm in the new one
Been loving it
I would love to see a Sony put in built in storage
Indeed
Besides the A1Mark2 I just want the A7C2 Primo lol
Hahaha A1 Mark 2 hmmm interesting. A7C II is yours primo
Is there any legit info that it’s being made or just an opinion of yours?
My opinion based on how Sony taps in to the market.
NEXT SENSOR SHOUD BE THE A7CII 33MP SENSOR, AND ITS af. MAKE IT STACKED BSI. KEEP IT 35MM BUT A SONY gMASTER NOT ZEISS
TO KEEP COST DOWN. IBIS AND A BETTER EVF AND TOUCH SCREEN
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I need the 3 so bad
De video about the Q3 dropping
I have an RX1RII and still adore it. We need to stop falling prey to manufacturers and planned obsolesence. Batteries are not a problem: they are tiny, easy to carry around, and cheap to buy. A Leica Q is MUCH bigger than the RX1RII, actually... not even close! The Zeiss Sonnar 35mm, for 35mm frame geeks like me, fabulous. It has flaws, but, I do not want a camera to take away ALL my input: I mostly use it in full manual, or, aperture priority. The key thing is that it produces AMAZING images, has fabulous dynamic range. I don't however know why Sony hasn't delivered an RX1RIII. I don't personally care about video in a camera like this frankly
Agreed. I can’t wait for this camera to come out. It has to be in the works …
@@GastonShutters I think you are right. Maybe they are just keeping Leica guessing: on the ropes, or working up a sweat for them. Maybe a form of torture: "ooo Leica, what Top Trump are we going to place in front of you!" 😁 It's kind of like that in this: "money no object, über posh compact" sector isn't it! Though, seriously speaking, I love these cameras: I sold up all my Nikon kit as I was getting less time for my photography (work getting in the way), and, I was getting a bit bored carrying around heavy kit everywhere I went, so I decided I would specialise, as a fresh challenge: limit myself to one fixed focal length, see what I could do. Looked at the Q at the time, the RX1Rii, settled on the latter as I just felt it was much more camera for the money, had a better form factor (even though battery life was relatively crap, got 5 batteries!). Great machines, fun to use, inconspicuous, great for street, travel, anything you put your mind to really (except sport or a shot of Jupiter!), and fun using your feet, or going side to side to compose. Takes you back to basics in many ways. On the plus side, the absence of an RX1Riii is keeping the residual value of my ii reasonable healthy! 😂
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Wish Sony make a adapter for 1.33x to 1.5x and make it digital x pan
That’d be great!
I'd love to see a version of this camera with really just updated auto-focus and a bigger battery. Then maybe just bring the price down. I could care less about video features, mic inputs, 4k, blah, blah...
Indeed!
Fujifilm X100vi with 40mp is about to be released. Just a sleeker lifestyle camera at $1600. No $3000 bodies for me.
Excited about the X100VI
If they make what you are asking for It would not be the same size which defeats the point. They need to just give us the newest AI AF. That's it. That will not change the size. What your asking for makes it the size of the A7CII. No video specs are needed.
VS Ricoh grIII ?
It depends. In terms of portability the Ricoh wins, in terms of lens and resolution and sensor the sony has clear advantages.
Mark III ?!?...I know there is only the Mark II, I'm waiting fpr the Mark III
There are speculations that this announcement can happen. Sony taking a stab at the Leica Q market
I have a feeling they fell out with zeiss and now zeiss is refusing to licence the sonnar lens to Sony
Sony can come up with a lens on their own I’m sure
@@GastonShutters they may have to partner up with tt artisans 😂
Sony makes their own lenses.
So I need z battery with 50mp. And two variants. Built in 24 f1.0 and 55 f1.0))) two bodies) and of course best wirelss speed to upload my thousands of wedding photos)
Those are some pretty solid requests. Would be nice to have these options.
@@GastonShutters yes. With crop mode). Actually if it will be available for standard cameras as interchangeable lenses even though it's a good solution of all problems with lens choice)
That’d be nice. Kind of like the Leica Q3
Any new rumors for an RX1R III?
Im digging and nothing yet. But Sony will release a few cameras in the next months and I keep my finger crossed that one of them could be it!
Yet I’m trying to sell mine(Sony RX1R II) for a few months with no takers
is the price right?
@@miam1074 $1,800…same as EBay
Thanks
SONY RX1R III will not see the light of day!
There will not be any of this. Remember that Sony NEVER even bothered to make a firmware updat on the mark2. So they will not continue this path. I would buy it if they would. But they won't. Nice video though....
I need that camera in my life!
Is sony Rx1r iii available already ? Thnks
No news about it. I hope it happens.
Our old Canon XC10 has a flip screen like the Q3, and that is for me a better form factor than the flip out screen cameras we have.
Indeed
Sony has a terrible firmware track record with these cameras. They never update them. If you look at leica, the Q2 has become completely transformed over the years. Sony put zero effort in the RX line. I do hope the release something, as competition is good, but who’s going to spend that kind of money on a camera with no updates or support after purchase?
I hear you. Lack of firmware support is not good.
I own the original rx1 and you are spot on… its ridiculous how neglected this line was
Indeed
That battery life is an absolute deal breaker for me. Im spoiled by my A7C lasting me all day.
Indeed
If the battery life is much better then it will be an interesting camera, until then I'll keep using my fpL.. evf bad, lens a little too big, but a very small camera with good IQ..
Agreed.
I would buy the third version of it was reasonably priced but it won’t be, extremely overpriced for what it is
Reasonable. I doubt it. Nothing of what Sony has released has been reasonable lately.
I had a Sony RX1 and loved it, but it was too slow in operation. What makes you think Sony will spend resources developing an RX1R m3? It won’t compete with the Fuji x100 series or the Leica Q3. It will be priced incorrectly to compete with Fuji and Leica users will stick with Leica for a variety of reasons. If the Sony is a bit bigger with a better implementation of viewfinder (and a more attractive price), then maybe. But their menus are still too complex.
I smell that they will re release it or make a similar camera. Just intuition not hard rumors.
@stagnant13 Typo. Geesh, get over your perfect self.
1) sony must erase all the titles around the camera, it looks so busy with all these - SONY, RX1RII, CYBERSHOT, BELLS AND WHISTLES, MEGADRIVE and freaking orange accent on the lens barrel - it's just looks so awful; 2) at least x2 bigger battery; 3) larger, faster and higher resolution EVF (don't care if it pops up); 4) more clean and simple menu... oh wait... I just want sony to make leica Q2-Q3
Thanks for your input.
There is no RX1RIII. What's there to 'talk about'?
I never stated that there is. Did you happen to watch the video? As it’s about what I would like to see in this camera 📷 if Sony makes it
I tried the Sony RX1R II and for me it was a dog of a camera. Menu non intuitive.. autofocus was buggy.. I hated it then I tried the Leica Q and it was such a joy to use. I dumped the Sony and kept the Leica Q and have a Leica Q3 on order. I think Sony missed the boat on the fixed lens full frame camera. I would love to be proven wrong but I don't think its going to happen.
Yeah the Q2.Q3 are superior in every way, but I'm sure if sony releases it it would use the Rv sensor, touch screen and all the bells and whistles of the new firmware and Ai capabilities. Just dreaming over here
Sony makes money when Leica makes money ??
Leica has been making money way before Sony made cameras
I disagree with most of what you have said. 😅
Designing a camera is not about “I want this and that…”. It’s about market needs.
I am sure Sony has done its own extensive research. If possible, I’d want an updated compact RX VIII too. But seeing the roadmap of Sony, you kinda guess that’s not going to happen.
Think about it. The RX1R II is already 8 years old. Why hasn’t there been any update for so long? That’s likely because Sony has since released the A7C which fills that gap.
I don’t see why Sony would want to cannibalise that great camera with a newer version of the RX1R II.
Why would you not want to accept or look forward to a new A7C? Just because the lens is interchangeable? What’s wrong with that?
It makes sense for Leica to produce the Q3 because they don’t have an extensive line of cameras like Sony. The Q3 is also their exquisite non-interchangeable lens camera.
Why does Sony have to blindly follow Leica?
I find it puzzling why you even want an internal memory “just because the Leica has a 64GB in-built memory”. High speed, large memory SD cards are so readily available today!
In effect, whatever you went on and on in this video hoping to see in an the elusive RX1R III could have easily been filled by the A7C line.
Don’t be too fixated with the fact that you could change lenses with it. It’s really a good feature to have which Leica Q3 and the Fujifilm X100V lack.
Thanks for your input. We love different perspectives in this channel. The A7Siii took 5 years to evolve from the Mark II. Cameras take time to be conceived, engineered, mass produced and release them. It safe to say that a camera can take anywhere from 24-36 months from concept to reality.
The RX1RII was not as popular as other cameras from Sony at that time. Consumer’s requirements were different than now.
Leica has proven that there is a market for it.
Even the Leica Q when it was first released wasn’t as popular as the Q2 or Q3. Markets change so how companies prioritize products also change to respond to a need in the market.
It took Apple to release the iPhone for everyone to realize that phones had to change.
I see it now that it took for Fuji with the X100 line, Leica to release the Q2 and Q3 and a bunch of TikTokers for the market to realize that’s there is a whole group of consumers ready for a product like that.
there is def interets for this type of camera. Leica Q is very successful as is the fujifilm X100 line. they can not keep up with demand
RXIII will NEVER come ( because of the Zeiss Sony conflict )
This can be an opportunity for Sony to make its own 35mm that’s faster while being compact
then design a 35mm GM into the body
you mean a big lens with a camera at it's tail ? @@99985cc
I’m sure it would sell well, but you and I both know it’s no Leica. The Leica raw files are so easy to work with and need such little work in post. The Leica is worth the premium $$.
I shot with Leica Q2, now Q3 and M11 and I don’t see any easier than Sony raw files. In fact I notice that Sony raws have greater recoverability of highlights whereas with Leica DNGs I usually have to under expose.
I don't have any Leica to compare its raw, but but I have several SONY Body's, including the A1. The raw files are very easy to use, and need also hardly any correction, if you know how to use your cameras. I am using C1.
Yeah the way Sony RAW files handle dynamic range is more balanced. Meaning that it doesn’t favor the shadows mainly like Leica does and thus getting more recoverability in highlights. I may do a test video about it
As a good photographer said "Sonys are photocopiers, Leicas have soul".
hehehe. I shoot with both. Had a Q2, Now a Q3 and M11. Leica's are a different breed of cameras. Or at least in comparison to modern standards. Their lenses have not changed their optical formula much, from the film days which is why you still get that retro film look when shooting with them. Even My Summicron 50mm F2 Apo is nowhere near in terms of sharpness to my Sony 50mm F1.4. I also have the Summilux 50mm and 35mm f1.4 which with those lenses you can't shoot at f1.4 unless you want tons of halation in your images, so certain lenses are a skip for portrait for me. Sony cameras makes us a bit lazy but one thing for sure is that the "keep rate" is pretty consistent whereas with Leicas you need to be willing to walk away from certain photos. Tow different animals that will produce different results. Both have their strenghts and the sony's very little weaknesses.
As a photographer said…all cameras are photocopiers, only photos have souls
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Design wise, the Sony can’t compare at all 😅
In a good or bad way ?
@@GastonShutters I’m sure most people would go for the Leica is money is not a problem 😉