Did my friend buy a fake Rolex?!?

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Today we have Franco's watch on the bench, what should be a Rolex Explorer II reference 16570 but could this Rolex be a fake? He bought his watch for what he felt was a really good price, so good that he is a bit worried the watch might not be genuine...
    Fake watches are a menace to the wrist watch industry and Rolex is the brand that is faked more than any other brand. A fake Rolex can in fact be bought openly online for a few hundred dollars and fakes are becoming increasingly difficult to spot. The best made fake watches look so much like the genuine ones that the only way to really determine whether your Rolex is fake or not is to open it up and look at the movement. And even there it can be difficult to see. So let's open Franco's watch up and see if it is really a proper Rolex Explorer II!
    As always we will take a few detours, including a discussion about the gentle craft of dentistry and the intelligence of cats.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 678

  • @dinnerwithfranklin
    @dinnerwithfranklin 11 місяців тому +187

    I laughed out loud when you removed the back. Brilliant!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  11 місяців тому +17

      😁

    • @ramblerandy2397
      @ramblerandy2397 10 місяців тому +11

      ​@@VintageWatchServices Hearing that very British exclamation "blimey", did make me chuckle. 😁

    • @maxwellmcdowell3744
      @maxwellmcdowell3744 10 місяців тому +5

      Lol same here😂

    • @ademyers2741
      @ademyers2741 10 місяців тому +3

      My jaw dropped too!

    • @jonazanteo
      @jonazanteo 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ramblerandy2397 for a moment there I thought he moved across the English channel and jumped back once again

  • @seancarroll8326
    @seancarroll8326 4 місяці тому +25

    My friend asked me if my Rolex was real, I opened it up, said yes, then completely disassembled it.

    • @InsanelyGhostly
      @InsanelyGhostly Місяць тому +2

      The reason I don’t wear Rolex is because of that question and insinuation, everyone just thinks you are wearing a fake one because so many people are.

  • @CaptainCreampie69
    @CaptainCreampie69 2 місяці тому +18

    For those that don’t want to watch the whole thing, it is a real Rolex.

    • @poolmonkey
      @poolmonkey 7 днів тому

      You can tell by the flaking black paint on the bezel.

    • @markboon341
      @markboon341 3 дні тому

      You spoiler!!!😂

  • @Not-a-bot222
    @Not-a-bot222 11 місяців тому +21

    Fun video to watch as always. The bit about the torturers and dentists was pure gold!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  11 місяців тому +3

      😂👍

    • @CESONER
      @CESONER 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, as professional torture declined, professional dentists increased. Merely a coincidence? I think not! I never knew this, but makes perfect sense. Amazing insight.

  • @CaptainRon1913
    @CaptainRon1913 11 місяців тому +53

    "Whew" ~ Franco

    • @JohnBowl14690
      @JohnBowl14690 4 місяці тому

      Would it really matter? Kind of...but not if he didn't know it was fake. If it's good super clone, it really wouldn't matter that much except when you go to sell it.

    • @gian_zx1197
      @gian_zx1197 4 місяці тому

      @@JohnBowl14690 of course it matters. your personal perception of having on your wrist a well deserved watch is kinda different of having a fake watch, especially if you paid it as a regular one.

    • @JohnBowl14690
      @JohnBowl14690 4 місяці тому

      @@gian_zx1197 - But if he thought it was real, then why would his personal perception be any different?

    • @gian_zx1197
      @gian_zx1197 4 місяці тому

      @@JohnBowl14690 i think because he wanted to spend his money on a rolex (5k >), not on a 1000 bucks super clone 😅

    • @JohnBowl14690
      @JohnBowl14690 4 місяці тому

      @@gian_zx1197 - Yes, but again....If he THINKS it's real, he will THINK he has a genuine Rolex. In the end, the only way he will find out is if he sells it. He might never find out. Many people keep these watches in the family and never sell.

  • @MC-dw5or
    @MC-dw5or 10 місяців тому +12

    Within the first few seconds I noticed the hand stack is correct. ✅ Then you demonstrate the jumping hour. ✅
    Serials ✅ correct movement and cam type movement screws ✅
    All looking good so far and it's a lovely watch 👌

  • @HansMeijner
    @HansMeijner 11 місяців тому +11

    I'm quite amazed to see that you didn't have to replace the rotor axle. Those are notorious to go on the 31 family. Also the clip wares down.

  • @mitfreundlichengrussen1234
    @mitfreundlichengrussen1234 10 місяців тому +5

    a dentist once explained to me that I should enjoy and respect the pain since I was the one who disrespected the teeth earlier... - most dentists I have been to were torturers, I am glad that I have found my dentist after a long, intensive search - thx god, good dentist do not have to be torturers. Thanks for the channel and your always super interesting videos.

  • @boydovens4180
    @boydovens4180 10 місяців тому +71

    The only difference between Dentistry then and now , is that in the past it hurt physically , now its usually financially .

    • @hibahprice6887
      @hibahprice6887 6 місяців тому +2

      It hurts now too! Treatment of periodontitis will always be painful, as they clean the canal where the nerve used to be, and reach the affected area of ​​the bone
      And that's more expensive than five fillings. Double the pain.

    • @MartasZLA
      @MartasZLA 5 місяців тому

      @@hibahprice6887 Nah its not that bad. They do my teeth with 3 canals couple of days ago. More than my teeth hurt me to pay 100 bucks for that and another 100 for white dental filling :D

    • @richardmorris6365
      @richardmorris6365 3 місяці тому +1

      Both

  • @thegrassyknoll7792
    @thegrassyknoll7792 10 місяців тому +20

    Wow, the finish on that movement just blows my mind, that Said, in the “good ol days” the finish on a pocket watch could go even further in beauty and not to forget,back in the day, it was made by hand.
    Thanks for the nice explaining throughout your service 👍🏻

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  10 місяців тому +2

      😊👍

    • @wertj3977
      @wertj3977 10 місяців тому +7

      The finish is just okay, nice perlage and striping. But to the level of blowing one's mind? The high horology watches today can go toe to toe with old pocket watches when it comes to hand finishing. Lange handwerkunst, Phillipe Duffour, Romain Gauthier, Grand Seiko micro artist studio, just to name a few.

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 10 місяців тому +1

      It’s a trash finnish compared to a Patek. Still it’s obviously beautiful and in my eyes deserves a sapphire backplate. Honestly the Rolex 4130 movement although not finished like boutique brands is in my eyes the most beautiful. It’s like a Ford GT-40 in its ferocious and simple design unlike the clearly more beautiful Ferrari super cars. To be honest I’m more of a Pantera guy so not even that level of detail and beauty. (Look up those cars, beauty but only from 15ft away. Just brutal power with nothing but power and savagery without purpose. They don’t handle, they don’t feel good, and close up they are dirty and ugly. But they are powerful and really cool.)

    • @the_snopro
      @the_snopro 10 місяців тому

      Ever look at a Lange or PP movement? They are pretty decorated

    • @wertj3977
      @wertj3977 10 місяців тому

      ​@@the_snoproLange, yes. A Patek is finished to the bare minimum for haute horoligie really. There is a reason why Phillipe Duffour says the greatest watch from a non independent watchmaker ever made is the datograph and not a 5070p.

  • @domminion599
    @domminion599 10 місяців тому +222

    A good indication that something is overpriced is that it takes an expert to tell the difference between a real one and a fake!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  10 місяців тому +24

      Very good point! 👍

    • @the_snopro
      @the_snopro 10 місяців тому +17

      Price is only what you will pay for it. There are lots of alternatives for watches. If you can't afford a Rolex don't buy one. I know it's hard to feel emotion through text, so I am saying this statement in the least rude way possible.

    • @JavierHuerta
      @JavierHuerta 10 місяців тому +28

      So true. When a chinese knock off can't be reliably identified, and costs 30X less than the real thing, you know the real thing is overpriced.
      I know that because I own a Starbucks sub, and bought a replica, so as not to risk the real thing so often. At times I've confused the rep with the original. The only way I know for sure which is which is by looking at the serial number.

    • @20cent
      @20cent 10 місяців тому +19

      @@the_snopro Being able to afford doesn't mean you should. Or judging something as overpriced doesn't mean that you can't afford it. When a manufacturer with lower means and resources can make a 98% perfect copy of a product at 10-100x less than the genuine cost, only a vapid and dumb person would still justify and argue about one's ability to buy said product. I'm saying this in the least rude way possible.

    • @rkstevenson5448
      @rkstevenson5448 10 місяців тому +9

      I honestly don't get why these guys making high-end knockoffs don't just start their own watch lines. I get that you don't have the "pedigree" of faking the brand name, but some of these fakes are so well-made that you'd think they would want to establish themselves as their own thing.

  • @joshuareinoehl924
    @joshuareinoehl924 11 місяців тому +10

    Outstanding Franco!! What a relief, I wonder how good of a deal you got 😊

    • @andrewwolf4430
      @andrewwolf4430 9 місяців тому +2

      My fake Rolex I bought in 1990 in Singapore cost $17.

  • @michaelbedford8017
    @michaelbedford8017 11 місяців тому +6

    Wonderful video; but what else can we expect.
    I was thinking last night, that if they made watches 20 times bigger, I might just be able to service one like you.
    You're dealing with 'nano lego', while I'm struggling with 'Duplo'.
    All the best Stian, tusen tak for your great show.

  • @RogerioCosta1.0
    @RogerioCosta1.0 11 місяців тому +5

    Nice! The fast jumping data function seems to be a good way to spot a fake one without even open the watch. It is probably the most expensive and difficult mechanism to reproduce without making the watch lose some some seconds close to the jumping time due to friction.

    • @DutchClawz
      @DutchClawz 11 місяців тому

      What do you mean? The instant date flip isn’t hard at all.. sadly there are a bunch of movements that show the same function as the real deal..

    • @jleano609
      @jleano609 4 місяці тому

      @@DutchClawz It's a jumping hour, not a jumping date. And yes, this is actually quite difficult to reproduce.

  • @torreyintahoe
    @torreyintahoe 10 місяців тому +6

    I have an Omega Seamaster. It got to where it was losing about half a minute a day. I sent it to Nesbit's in Seattle. It wasn't cheap but they serviced it and it came back beautiful, operating very smoothly and losing 2-3 seconds a day. It was fun watching this to get an idea of what's inside a nice watch.

    • @richardmorris6365
      @richardmorris6365 3 місяці тому

      How much was the damage? I started collecting this yr,I have an affinity for chronographs. Now I've heard they need servicing every 5 yrs & could be as much as 1500$,ouch

    • @torreyintahoe
      @torreyintahoe 3 місяці тому

      @@richardmorris6365 It was $700. Still running great. Some days it loses no time at all and never more than 2 sec. They have the longest warrantee at 3 years.

  • @DonkeyHotey-l2e
    @DonkeyHotey-l2e 4 місяці тому +8

    There are fake/clone Rolexes at every price point from $40 to $1000. The market now allows you to get ripped off buying a cheap fake when you thought you were getting a good fake. The ability to buy a $1000 clone Rolex really tells you the value of their name alone. As long as you are getting what you thought you were buying, it's not a scam.

  • @Curfewlater
    @Curfewlater 11 місяців тому +13

    2 meters of snow but no cooling, you should stop trusting your dentist 😂😂

    • @stevemahrer7097
      @stevemahrer7097 11 місяців тому +2

      Up hill, both ways… and we were lucky! Rather Pythonesque humour, love it! Great work, thanks.

  • @spuppy852
    @spuppy852 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm not even a huge Rolex fan, but for some reason they are my favourite brand for videos like this. Like you said, things just seem to fall into place, and while not as elaborately decorated, I enjoy the simple and smart designs of these movments. It makes for a satisfying video of their servicing. Thanks!

  • @jameshisself9324
    @jameshisself9324 11 місяців тому +87

    Thank you for saying that Rolex are overpriced. Most successful marketing in history. Except maybe DeBeers.

    • @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv
      @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv 11 місяців тому +16

      I was trying to explain this on another thread. I was recounting how a submariner cost £360 back in 1980. Someone replied to my comment that couldn't I understand that it was simply inflation. I think the price increases since then are a lot more than inflation.

    • @jameshisself9324
      @jameshisself9324 10 місяців тому +11

      @@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv It's so ridiculous now that the market is full of speculative buyers, in it for the 'investment'. Never mind the immense risk of treating a manufactured product as a commodity, but they have paid a price for that lately.
      So absurd. A tool watch. Turned into a trinket-investment-luxury brand through ignorance.

    • @grzegorzmontar8432
      @grzegorzmontar8432 10 місяців тому +8

      ​​@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vvAverage wage in 1980 was £500/month, now £3000. 6 times more. £360×6=2160... where to buy Submatiner at that price now 😂?

    • @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv
      @MichaelWilliams-mo1vv 10 місяців тому +5

      ​@grzegorzmontar8432 thank you this is the point I was trying to make when I was pounced on by the world's leading economic expert. Rolex prices are 30+ what they were in 1980 way above inflation. Basically in the 2000s they revamped themselves in a higher luxury sector of the market. I was a junior clerk in the civil service in 1980 taking home about £350 a month an older worker would be averaging about £500 as you rightly say. Even I an 18 yo junior clerk could aspire to a Rolex. Today a submariner is a £10k+ watch. The 18 yo civil service clerk would need to be earning £120k per year.

    • @jameshisself9324
      @jameshisself9324 10 місяців тому +2

      @@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv Pounced on? I thought we were agreeing. I'll ignore that 'expert' wise crack. 😆

  • @singlespeedman
    @singlespeedman 10 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @bullnose01
    @bullnose01 11 місяців тому +3

    It always is a pleasure watching you work on a high quality movement. On the other hand, now that the alpine snows are melting, isn't about time for you and your watch hunting moose to go out and find a rust bucket special to bring back to life? You and the family continue to be well.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  11 місяців тому +1

      😂👍

    • @richardmorris6365
      @richardmorris6365 3 місяці тому

      Got bit by the watch bug this yr, never thought I'd fall asleep to a watchmaker tearing down a Swiss timepiece but here I am!

  • @LeongChiuWai
    @LeongChiuWai 4 місяці тому +4

    Its very satisfying to watch you service and assemble the watch , Sir.

  • @moboei
    @moboei 11 місяців тому +9

    your friend has got himself a very nice watch

  • @ygrbooks
    @ygrbooks 11 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for sharing this most instructive video, dear Stian: 👌👍👏!

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 10 місяців тому +1

    I immediately thought it was a fake... Then you ''opened'' it! Ha, ha, ha... The actual movement is so very beautiful.

  • @ednammansfield8553
    @ednammansfield8553 4 місяці тому +1

    I really enjoy watching your videos and the skills you have. Your narration as you go through the process of your servicing is precise and well explained. This watch is certainly a beautiful timepiece and am glad that your friend found out that the watch is genuine. I have subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work you do.

  • @jatco84
    @jatco84 7 місяців тому +2

    Another great R&R of a classic piece. Love your comententary during the process...Kudos..!!

  • @ralphferrara5152
    @ralphferrara5152 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks so much for getting back to me.

  • @I_love_watches
    @I_love_watches 11 місяців тому +3

    Nice seeing you again ❤

  • @LTC_Tiger
    @LTC_Tiger 11 місяців тому +20

    I'm glad to see that my initial thought was right -- it's a genuine piece from the late 80s, early 90s generation.

    • @BoatNectar
      @BoatNectar 11 місяців тому +3

      Spoiler alert?

    • @jleano609
      @jleano609 4 місяці тому

      Yes, I have a mid nineties 16570 polar dial myself - watch is absolutely correct. Even more so than mine. Rolex service swapped out the tritium hands on mine for super-luminova at some point - his are original and lume shade on the hands matches the hour markers. It's actually an example of why you should be wary of having Rolex service your watch after a certain age. They can change out dial parts that actually devalues the watch.

    • @pikachus5m166
      @pikachus5m166 3 місяці тому

      ​@@jleano609Even if you specify no changes to the dial or handset?, and do they keep said swapped items or return them to the owner, like Omega does?.

  • @bc3618
    @bc3618 10 місяців тому +2

    Great video, as always. Loved the cat section. If you haven't seen it already, the New Yorker magazine ran a cartoon with two cats and a cave woman, where the cats are saying to each other "we can kill and eat her now, or we can let her live and she'll feed us for the next 15 years." The title of the cartoon is "The First Cats to be Domesticated."

  • @brittle1
    @brittle1 9 місяців тому +4

    The absolute easiest way to tell with the case back removed is a free sprung balance. No fakes or replicas use that escapement architecture.

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 5 місяців тому

    Man,your video quality is amazing. I’ve never seen such sharp focus on UA-cam.

  • @dizwell
    @dizwell 10 місяців тому +1

    Subscription because of the cat observations!
    Oh, and also because of the fine level of skill on display. Thank you!

  • @kodywillnauer9422
    @kodywillnauer9422 11 місяців тому +2

    Your storytelling and pop up banner text is great.

  • @alexandregb566
    @alexandregb566 10 місяців тому +2

    Cats pretend they are irracional, so they don't have to work.

  • @mickboakes7023
    @mickboakes7023 10 місяців тому

    Not that I intend to take up watch making. I’m just totally fascinated with your skills and the mechanics of watches, but the strength of those springs would frighten the life out of me. Another great video Stian. Stay safe. Mick.🇬🇧

  • @aciel-tv
    @aciel-tv 10 місяців тому +1

    for this specific watch, when u wound up/adjusted the hour, there was already a slight sign that it is real. haha the "wiggle test".
    this specific 16570 movement at that time, if u adjust hour independently, theres like a little bit of "wiggle/wobble" on the 24hr hand. that is evident of the genuine movement, for this specific watch at that period. they probably fixed it at the late 3186 movement. but yea, haha

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  10 місяців тому +2

      Yep, you're absolutely right, that's the giveaway that this is a 3185 movement and the only really visible difference to the 3186 :)

  • @petewilson2314
    @petewilson2314 10 місяців тому

    Loved the dramatic sound effect of the case dropping onto solvent in slow motion

  • @savage22bolt32
    @savage22bolt32 10 місяців тому +1

    3:00 Both the real & fake watches have beat up screws. At some point in the past, somebody was in there messing around that shouldn't have been.

  • @keysersoze503
    @keysersoze503 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm kind of shocked to see a Rolex with a blank caseback.

  • @AllenLearnsToBudget
    @AllenLearnsToBudget 10 місяців тому +2

    I Have That Exact Watch - Love It....! Mine Has Pagani Design On The Dial For Some Reason Though....?

  • @ralphferrara5152
    @ralphferrara5152 10 місяців тому +1

    Very nice job as usual. I always love that you explain everything you do or about to do. I would like to know what you charge foe an overhaul. Thanks.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, Ralph! You can send me a mail to stian@vintagewatchservices.eu with information about your watch, then we'll take it from there

  • @stevemoreno6241
    @stevemoreno6241 11 місяців тому

    Another entertaining video. Thanks for sharing. I have the newer 42mm white dial version in my collection and it's my go-to travel watch besides my Tudor BB GMT black dial.

  • @ThePaulv12
    @ThePaulv12 11 місяців тому +4

    Yes Stian, your dentist story reminds me of Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen sketch. "Ohhh when I wooz yoong, we used to get up in the morning at half past 10 at night, half an hour before we'd gone to bed...."
    Recently I had a root canal and crown. The pain on one particular treatment was so bad I passed out in the chair. I'm an active type, mechanic by trade turned long distance truck driver. I live off grid, cut my own firewood so the point is pain is not unknown to me.
    Without hesitation I can state this, my 2nd root canal treatment, exposed me to the most pain I have ever felt in my life - including an arm break where my fingers were almost touching my elbow. My system just couldn't handle it and out I went like a light. I never passed out when I broke my arm. Woke up drenched in sweat then had to continue with the treatment after they gave me an orange juice. I had a 14 hour shift starting 1 hour after the treatment.
    And they say you can't remember pain ROFL... I'll never forget that day in this or the next 10,000 lifetimes.
    Re cats, down here in Australia it's not unknown for us to have a deadly snake or two about the place. In fact they're common. You haven't lived until you've had an eastern brown in your house. Cats are exceptional snake controllers. Snakes just don't like cats. My gnarly old male (GRHS) dealt with them decisively while my other cat watched on. Now she won't tolerate them. Since the cats are around no more snakes or rodents. A necessary evil are cats.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  10 місяців тому +3

      😳 I'm not a religious man at all but I'll happily pray to all gods that ever existed to avoid that experience... Ouch
      And yes, cats are very fascinating. Their reaction times are two or three times faster than a snake can strike, so I can imagine they're great to have in a country where everything can kill you :)
      Australia is a fantastic place btw, with some of the nicest people there are 💪

    • @mellifluousfable
      @mellifluousfable 9 місяців тому +1

      I would suggest that you’re either someone who has a resistance to the anaesthetic or that you need to find a different dentist. I’ve had two root canals in my time and have never felt a thing. In fact, I think I fell asleep in the chair at one point for a minute during the second one.

    • @TarpeianRock
      @TarpeianRock 4 місяці тому +1

      Man, I’ve had all sorts of procedures done on my teeth (one time the apprentice/assistent had to be replaced because she became unwell due to the graphic nature of a procedure) and never ever felt any pain. I have no problem asking for additional anesthesia from my dentist (he always makes sure I’m in no pain and always proposes extra anesthesia when I need it) I actually have more discomfort from keeping my mouth open for extended periods of time than actual pain. Either get a new dentist or just perhaps maybe you’re resistant to anesthetics…( if that’s the case there are gasses that can help, I think).

  • @appleman29
    @appleman29 10 місяців тому +1

    i mean, if the price seems too good to be true, best to stay back but luckily the watch turned out to be genuine.

  • @brucebarlow6604
    @brucebarlow6604 11 місяців тому

    When the Dentist found out that the next patient was a giant watchmaker he remembered when he paid for his last Rolex service and it was now payback time I mean Hammer Time. What no trouble in paradise. Keep well from New Zealand 🇳🇿

  • @peterhalyckyj1588
    @peterhalyckyj1588 10 місяців тому

    Absolutely in AWWW when I see a watch disassembled. Pure craftsmanship at its highest level.

  • @stavros_katsopr
    @stavros_katsopr 11 місяців тому +6

    [Fun(?) fact] I don't drink and don't do drugs. At my age, i can get the same effect by standing up too fast. (internet wisdom LOL)
    PS Luckily not at that age, so.......

  • @christianatmobile
    @christianatmobile 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video and perfect service of this watch. But who aligned the hands before you get that timepeace? Is that Rolex original?

  • @paolomasala713
    @paolomasala713 11 місяців тому +2

    Brilliant, like always!

  • @AdlerGordon
    @AdlerGordon 11 місяців тому +1

    I see that you have had a similarly deprived childhood to myself. In my case, when going to school, I, too, have had to trudge through meters of snow. Uphill. Both ways.

  • @donvanlandingham2583
    @donvanlandingham2583 28 днів тому

    I really get a kick out of the overwhelming emotion displayed when the case is first opened!

  • @Yorkshiremadmick
    @Yorkshiremadmick 10 місяців тому +1

    More than one way to skin a cat.
    Love you sense of humour.
    Great work and well explained. Yes Rolex definitely over priced and over hyped.

  • @coestercortese
    @coestercortese 10 місяців тому

    My dady bought one NKUWAN and he loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when he went out with it.

  • @davidl2438
    @davidl2438 11 місяців тому +1

    It's a beautiful watch. It is not ostentatious and very handsome. I would be happy if I was the owner of this watch. Great video.

  • @joeskeptical4762
    @joeskeptical4762 11 місяців тому

    *Good job, Stian. It's nice to hear impartial comments from a non Rolex fanboy who knows many watches. Rolex timepieces are good but too expensive. I have one and believe in them BUT the prices are eye-watering.*

  • @andrewswink5825
    @andrewswink5825 11 місяців тому +3

    Fully agree with you. As the old adage goes: If you want to impress someone buy a Rolex. If you want to tell what time it is, buy a Breitling.

    • @Pommezul
      @Pommezul 11 місяців тому +4

      I will rather get a seiko 5 and keep the rest at my bank

    • @greatchalla3799
      @greatchalla3799 11 місяців тому

      @@Pommezulsome people know the price of everything and the value of nothing! 🤔

    • @joeskeptical4762
      @joeskeptical4762 11 місяців тому +1

      *To know the time REALLY WELL, get a Timex Ironman. It will remain accurate to within a few seconds PER MONTH.*

    • @andrewallen9993
      @andrewallen9993 10 місяців тому

      If you want a watch as tough, reliable, robust, shockproof and waterproof as a Vostok Amphibia but with a rubbish bracelet and more accurate out of the box buy a Rolex. You have to regulate your Vostok to COSC specifications yourself after you have run it in for 6 months however.

    • @TrimeshSZ
      @TrimeshSZ 10 місяців тому

      I like the Grand Seiko quartz watches - the spec is +/- 10s a year, but all the ones I've personally seen are far better than that. I measured my personal watch over a year and it gained 2 seconds.@@joeskeptical4762

  • @JamesMPogue
    @JamesMPogue 11 місяців тому

    I always enjoy your video's, especially the cleaning and repairs, of various watches.

  • @fontyyy
    @fontyyy 2 місяці тому

    Replace the entire balance is an option, and the bezel, dial/hands and crystal are all tells, but on an Explorer, after you've done that lot in gen you're probably only £1k off the price of an actual gen!
    Definitely worth going that route on a GMT m2 though.

  • @GoBayside
    @GoBayside 11 місяців тому +2

    Are lubricants all 'period correct' or has chemistry and synthetics improved what is used?

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  11 місяців тому +3

      Oh, lubricants have improved immensely over the last few decades. You don't have to go many years back before organic lubricants were commonplace, nowadays they're pretty much all synthetic. That makes them last much longer.

    • @GoBayside
      @GoBayside 10 місяців тому

      @@VintageWatchServices does this mean service intervals can be longer?

  • @peterduxbury927
    @peterduxbury927 9 місяців тому

    Every single time that you use those Tweezers, everybody reading should respect that 100% of accuracy to remove the tiniest of parts, cannot be done by anybody so deftly & skillful in their preferred life's work. Many of those tiny parts are springs which are also in some tension or compression. If (for example), I attempted to remove all parts, those tiny parts store enough kinetic energy to propel those tiny parts (at a high speed) - and never to be found again!! It's happened to lots of us! Sir, you have a very special skill! Greetings from Australia.

  • @zombienation68
    @zombienation68 3 місяці тому

    Have no idea why this appeared in my feed as I'm a builder with a Seiko Kinetic Titanium 🤣 but I'm glad it did...very relaxing yet educational at the same time, dont get that often, thx...

  • @alexsystems2001
    @alexsystems2001 11 місяців тому +1

    The moment you put it on the timegrapher… I figured it wasn’t fake… I came across a high end fake and the movements aren’t that accurate. It was a super fake and it wasn’t terrible on the timegrapher but it was along the lines of a cheap Seiko automatic.

  • @robertsternlieb5532
    @robertsternlieb5532 11 місяців тому

    A very nice video as usual. Thank you. Would you mind sharing some names of watches brand that you feel are a good value. I'm currently interested in Blancpain and Glashutte Original (with exhibition case backs). I don't expect to be buying an A. Lange Sohne any time soon.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, Robert ! I actually think Glashütte Original is pretty good value of the high end brands, but the cost is off course still quite high

    • @cedarcanoe
      @cedarcanoe 11 місяців тому +1

      Think GP of the 1990-2000 era, and JLC from 2000-2010. Both can be had for little money and are great quality

  • @CESONER
    @CESONER 7 місяців тому

    One of my most favorite things,
    is to watch a master at work.
    Amazing to see this.
    Well done.

  • @ryno101
    @ryno101 11 місяців тому +1

    Yay!!! A new video! Question for you… I have a watch with the same (kif I believe) shock settings, and for the life of me, I cannot find them. One of mine is broken and needs replacing…

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  11 місяців тому

      You might be able to buy some at a material house like cousins

  • @lefroy1
    @lefroy1 10 місяців тому

    Best way to find out if it's fake is by cutting the case in half. If there's brass or chocolate in the middle, it's definitely fake.
    If there's steel in the middle it could be genuine, or it could still be a fake.

  • @jimcollins9999
    @jimcollins9999 Місяць тому

    Beautiful work! I enjoyed watching it. 👌

  • @hemtet5500
    @hemtet5500 11 місяців тому

    I was recently tortured by a dentist so the decline in torturers and the increase in dentists makes perfect sense. It was a very engrossing video I enjoyed it a lot.

  • @jprichard
    @jprichard 11 місяців тому

    "Hang on, that was the wrong watch." 🤣🤣

  • @justmeeagainn
    @justmeeagainn 11 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful work.

  • @Zubeneshemali
    @Zubeneshemali 8 місяців тому

    I bought a brand new "Submariner" Rolex back in the mid-60s for diving. Years later the stem was in need of replacement so I took it to what thought was a reputable jeweler. I got the watch back weeks later, but upon checking it closely later, I found the second hand was not "sweeping" as it should if it was a genuine Rolex; instead it was jumping as a fake digital Rolex does. I'm contain either the jeweler, or whomever they sent it to exchanged the genuine Rolex action for a cheap knock-off digital!! I still have the box, the emblems, and the guarantee with the watch serial number, so I may yet see if I can trace where the real watch action went!!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  8 місяців тому

      That sounds bad but they didn't necessarily change the movement, that would be downright fraud. There is a little friction spring in these movements that makes the seconds hand move smoothly, and if this spring isn't secured properly, the hand will stutter and move in larger increments. Perhaps that's what happened?
      You should have the watch checked at your local watchmaker asap to make sure!

  • @andyyoung3233
    @andyyoung3233 9 місяців тому

    Great video mate I always enjoy watching you work on watches

  • @Watchdoc65
    @Watchdoc65 3 місяці тому

    Just looking at the font of model and serial number and the way it is stamped between the lugs; with experience you can spot if it’s fake or not. The copies never seem to get that detail right! (Thankfully!)

  • @michaellooney1089
    @michaellooney1089 10 місяців тому

    A great job done, and I love the humour! Yes, cats ARE the best, we have a Bengal. Also, GMT's are my favourite, but I can only afford the Citizen RMC GMT!

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  10 місяців тому

      Rolexes are very overpriced... Citizen is a very solid brand!

  • @garyboyle695
    @garyboyle695 11 місяців тому +2

    You have a Rolex buying friend? It's nice that you help the disadvantaged.

  • @sdcoinshooter
    @sdcoinshooter 11 місяців тому

    That is one of the most underrated models Rolex produced. Awesome watch.

  • @sheemondallasgeorgia
    @sheemondallasgeorgia 9 місяців тому

    11:34 the sound comes from a cheap timer, not from the ultrasound transducer.

  • @WatchRestorationCottage
    @WatchRestorationCottage 10 місяців тому

    Hilarious movement reveal! Haha. Thanks for this video. I'm looking to get one myself, so this is a nice reference.

  • @danieljckson
    @danieljckson 4 місяці тому

    The expression about skinning cats is about catfish.

  • @wowzers0_070
    @wowzers0_070 11 місяців тому

    When I saw 2:07 all I could think about is a seller on eBay saying, "Please rate 5 star, saar."

  • @fahd6008
    @fahd6008 11 місяців тому +1

    Très génial, fantastique, c'est l'art de reparation professionnel, très réussi, ravi de suivre tes vidéos intéressantes, merci beaucoup

  • @karanjain5663
    @karanjain5663 7 місяців тому

    YES! An HMT movement sighting on the channel - thank you! The HMT0231 may be humble but is built like a tank.

  • @DPW55
    @DPW55 10 місяців тому

    Great close up shots , brilliant,

  • @bellosconi1
    @bellosconi1 3 місяці тому

    Good job but you have to press the glas out from the bezel and put ist first on the case then u press the bezel over the crystal and the gasket from the crystal

  • @peterduxbury927
    @peterduxbury927 9 місяців тому

    One thing that I noticed, was that (before the Watch became Hermetically - Sealed), wouldn't it have been better if the common air was first removed, and replaced with N2 gas. There would be absolutely no humidity whatsoever, to form minute reactions (inside the Watch and trapped forever), and acting negatively on all internal metal parts. I have never heard of any Watch Maker ever doing this. But do they? I hope that they do this - on extremely expensive Watches. It would be a cheap operation these days, to replace with N2.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  9 місяців тому

      Hello Peter, it would indeed be much better to not have air inside the watch but it's not that straight forward to pump air out and some other gas in. Helium is used in professional diver's watches and then you also need special valves etc.
      Air in itself isn't a big issue to the metal parts, it's when you combine it with moisture that you really have a problem on your hands :)

  • @TheSchmed
    @TheSchmed 2 місяці тому

    I’m surprised the black paint came out of the numbers in the bezel insert, as is on the 6.

  • @jamesmoninger1982
    @jamesmoninger1982 4 місяці тому

    Great video with excellent narration!

  • @richardpfortmiller4225
    @richardpfortmiller4225 5 місяців тому

    The magnification window in 3 seconds told me .

  • @jimsound7888
    @jimsound7888 10 місяців тому

    I have one similar on my wrist. The difference is, it has my own logo on it

  • @dylvasey
    @dylvasey 10 місяців тому

    The balance was an easy way to tell, but be aware that there are superclones now with the same free sprung balance. They are rare at the moment and expensive but they are out there!

  • @gregcapella5941
    @gregcapella5941 11 місяців тому +2

    THANKS,,,,GREAT VIDEO !!!

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 10 місяців тому

    My goodness that was mesmerising watching you dismantle and reassemble,

  • @mikesage9544
    @mikesage9544 9 місяців тому

    Stian, hows your project coming along?? For some reason, inspite of me having subscribed, the notifications dont come through. Btw, out of interest, did you perform a P test on the case? Kind regards from the Forest of Blackness. Mike

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  9 місяців тому

      Hello Mike, I did a pressure test on the case indeed, but my tester is a dry one so it's not very interesting to see in a video :)

    • @mikesage9544
      @mikesage9544 9 місяців тому

      @@VintageWatchServices And your project??

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  9 місяців тому

      @@mikesage9544 Which project is that? I don't remember 😁

    • @mikesage9544
      @mikesage9544 9 місяців тому

      😂 The secret one that you don't want to talk about!!! Though, I feel sure I know what it is... Mine has faltered. Involves iwc 7906. Neither are for this level of communication. Stian, lubrication of plastic or nylon pinions. Extreme light oil? Y or N? Will message you. Bw von zer Fazerland. Mike.

    • @VintageWatchServices
      @VintageWatchServices  9 місяців тому

      @mikesage9544 Aha! 😁 Yes, it's coming along nicely and I'll disclose more quite soon, I hope :) Plastic/nylon does not have to be lubricated.

  • @gian_zx1197
    @gian_zx1197 4 місяці тому

    my eyes literally popped out when you opened the case back jesus christ ahahaahahhahah

  • @chadpyett6441
    @chadpyett6441 11 місяців тому

    As always another great video always entertaining

  • @NivenRowe
    @NivenRowe 10 місяців тому +1

    I love this. Keep it up.

  • @markbyrum4743
    @markbyrum4743 10 місяців тому

    You failed to mention that it was uphill both to AND from the dentist as you walked through the snow! ;-)

  • @goldkatt2685
    @goldkatt2685 9 місяців тому

    I choked when you removed the caseback and showed a HMT mechanism XD