How Counterfeit Rolexes Actually Work | How Crime Works | Insider
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- Rob Holmes is a private investigator. He works with major luxury-watch brands to track down fakes and stop them from getting to market.
Holmes speaks with Business Insider about how counterfeits are made in factories overseas. He gives details about how fake luxury goods are trafficked into the United States and distributed to consumers, tells us how the counterfeit industry has evolved with the rise of a new generation of "superfakes," and gives advice about how to spot a counterfeit. He also examines a genuine Rolex, and gives tips on how to spot a genuine watch.
Holmes began investigating counterfeits during his childhood: his father, Robert Sr., was a renowned counterfeit investigator in New York in the 1980s. Holmes describes his dad's encounters with Chinatown gangs and tells Business Insider how he and his brother are carrying on their father's legacy through their investigations business, MI:33.
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00:00 - Intro
00:39 - The Fakes
01:44 - The Factories
03:49 - The Distribution
05:54 - The Market
08:20 - The Repairs
09:29 - The Raids
11:33 - The Investigations
13:42 - Spotting a Fake
16:48 - The Bigger Picture
19:03 - A Family Business
21:24 - The Legacy
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As we were preparing to publish this video, a representative from Customs and Border Protection wrote in an email: "Trade in counterfeit and pirated goods threatens America's innovation economy, the competitiveness of our businesses, the livelihoods of U.S. workers, and, in some cases, national security and the health and safety of consumers. CBP targets and seizes imports of counterfeit and pirated goods, and enforces exclusion orders on patent-infringing and other IPR violative goods.
CBP's interdiction efforts begin well before a conveyance or shipment arrives at a port. Advance electronic shipping information, actionable intelligence, and information sharing partnerships are critical components that enable us to quickly identify, target, and deter the entry of counterfeit and dangerous goods, including illicit drugs, in all operational environments. Advance information is a critical and effective component of CBP's targeting and interdiction efforts."
It threatens the corporations' and shareholders' insanely huge profits, not the workers
yet they allow temu to exist. temu has an office in boston, and facilitates the sale of counterfeit goods by the millions and absolutely nothing is done about it.
Ah, yes. The American innovation of Swiss watches, Italian bags, Electronics made in China, and clothing made in Bangladesh.
You guys didn't vet this information at all
Tell them to do their jobs. I went to NYC last month and you can walk up and down time squares and see several guys with large suitcases full of fake purses, hand bags and sunglasses all with the big brands logos. They lay it all on a blanket and try to sell them as the real stuff. Lots of times it will be 3-4 ppl next to each other selling. Cops just a few feet away not doing anything.
If sweat shops and child labor is a concern then real Nike and Apple should also fall in same category
The truth.
Yeah it is only about western companies not able to maximize their profits.
Right, I'd be pretty willing to assume that a majority of people making counterfeit goods are not also involved in human trafficking. Gotta justify their actions in the name of capitalism somehow.
And just about every other major brand.
It should be a crime for rolex charging people thousands for watches are few hundred dollar to make.
They're called "Super Clones" not "Epic Fakes"
And the grey market isn't watches that fell off of a truck. It's mostly pre-owned watches sold by non-authorized dealers. Some even in brand new condition because someone bought directly from Rolex and went to sell it to a grey market dealer for a profit.
What kind of "expert" is this?
He is clearly not a watch person. He has no idea what he is talking about
Not a watch person and not a good investigator either
I’ve been in to watchs for about three years and I already know more about fakes than this guy. He is so misinformed. That chain he’s wearing is ridiculous. It probably fake.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 these comments, yeah I hear super clone & exact copy when I’m in Asia.
To give him the benefit of the doubt, he did say terminology constantly changes to avoid detection. And that his undercover need to look like fools to actually get a fake.
If he seemed like he knew too much a dealer might be hesitant to sell to him.
He might be using old terminology on purpose or is using the terminology most prevalent 10-20 years ago. "Epic Fakes" definitely sounds like slang people in the early 2000s would use. The word epic was literally used everywhere. Slang also is different in each state
I think the person in this interview is a counterfeit investigator. He seems to be struggling with basic terminology with watches alone.
Ye that was my thought, he obviously has bias since he works for the big brands, the grey market stuff he mentioned was just complete nonsense
The watch he was reviewing in the video is a fake IMO lol
@@CLGaming874 what gives it away? why do you think so?
He’s a investigator not a watch expert he is not spot on on most things
TIL that Louis Vuitton is a big watch brand, and that Super Clones are called Epic Fakes all within the first 90 seconds of the video. Where did you find this guy? Grey Market watches are refused to service? lol, like you can't just say "I bought that on a trip to ". A watch is a watch and they can be serviced by any decent watchmaker/jeweler. "You need a magnifying glass to tell if it's a clone" and then confidently announces a watch as genuine using his naked eye.
And from what I've seen of the super clones, even if you have a magnifier you really can't tell. Maybe if you are extremely experienced or have a genuine one to compare directly to, but not even 100% sure then. But otherwise, the quality of a good super clone can be so impeccable, the average person won't be able to tell, even with magnification.
Most clones needs to be opened to see if they are real. There are legit brands making Rolex designs with their own branding(Steelfish, San Martin, etc) that matches the Rolex build quality and specs on everything but the movement. The difference is that these brands charge $2-400. A good "fake" has all the properties of a Rolex, but it´s just not made by them. Just like the cost of an LV bag is $20. LV really is making good watches, but they are not a watch brand, and isn´t gonna be counted as such.
This guy knows nothing. There are many contradictions and falsehoods.
@@ccoder4953 I just recently came back from China, from Shenzhen, went to a fake market (that sells every type of goods, all fakes) and I've seen Sub clones that go for 60 bucks (after a little bargaining) that are impossible to discern from an original. It has a shitty Chinese caliber inside and the lume is weak, but an average person would never in a million years think it was a fake. This dude is a dunce and seems to know next to nothing about watches, but he might be a god PI
I use to take my watches to the authorized dealer for servicing but over the lifetime of the piece that’s more than the watch costs… $200 for a battery!? Did that for a few years till a service tech in Tiffany told me to take my watches to the “watch repair” in the big department store in the same mall. She said, this battery regardless of brand costs $10 and the BS about it only being opened by that brand is to make money. Fast forward 25yrs , Patek, Tiffany, Baumé&Mercier, A.Piguet all go to a local guy who works on my pieces in front of me in a shitty strip mall. He charges 1/10 the price. I’ve gone to him so long that he doesn’t even charge me for battery replacement anymore.
Where did Business Insider find this guy, 2 minutes in and I'm amazed at the amount of misinformation.
Watched another 5 minutes, holy moly. This is laughable
My BS detector was going haywire. It's like he googled "fake rolex" 10 minutes before he was interviewed, so he could drop a couple of buzzwords.
And trying to pass-off basic common sense as CIA-level spycraft? 🤣
Walter Mitty for sure.
Thank you…this is ridiculous
oh so it's fake.. well, it fooled me
He's a counterfeit informant?
That interview is a serious hit to the credibility of Insider.
as if they already had any
He forgot about the guys that open their over coats with all the fakes. 😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
I stopped when he mentioned Louise Vuitton, who buys a fake LV watch 😂
I came here to say exactly the same... he hasnt got a clue
in 2 minutes his credibility was gone.. "LV watch".. "only way to spot a fake is on the movement" who invited the "insider" for this interview? Hes clueless..
And he says "Dial" and "face" of the watch as if they are two different things 😂😂
@@laurencerosenthalwinckler4439 He's far from clueless as far as the logistics of the fake product industry. 'Watch guys' consider a LV to be a joke but there's a massive market for any sort of knockoff LV product from people who perceive it as a status symbol. He doesn't seem to know much about actual watches but that's beside the point if he's concentrating on manufacture and distribution.
His credentials: Aliexpress account and a few whoppers his dad told in the 80s.
When a guy with a chest medallion tells you buying luxurious watches instead of fakes prevents human trafficking, you naturally believe him
This is just embarrassing. He works for the watch brands so of course he's going to lie and misrepresent facts for them.
The issue of forced or child labor is a China issue, has nothing to do with counterfeit watches, even Apple and Nike has the issue. Guy is citing a story from 30 years ago about swapping gold for gold plated then claims it's common today so only use authorized dealers - this is no different is Ford claimed only they can fix your car and anyone else will cause your wheels to fall off. The assessment if the watch is real is out of date, good counterfeits today are impossible to tell from real unless you remove the case back.
Just because that happened twenty-plus years ago doesn’t mean jewelers don’t still do it. It’s pretty common. The other issue with taking a watch to a non-authorized repair location is the second it’s opened by someone unauthorized the entire value of the watch gets wiped out. If you buy a $60k Patek Philippe brand new and take it to a jeweler to get it iced out in $40k worth of diamonds, that watch is only going to be worth $40k.
@@sterlingross919 you claim "it's pretty common" like this "expert" but cite no recent examples. Having a watch serviced by someone who isn't authorized doesn't wipe out the entire value as long as they know what they are doing.
@@sterlingross919 the second the back is removed by someone unauthorized, it's worthless, seems like some pretentious nonsense on par with john deer/right to repair (oh, if farmers fix their own tractors like they have been doing for a 100 yrs, they'll be unsafe and everyone will die. Just like the ford example above). Gate keeping, profit protecting garbage. Can some idiot screw up a watch, sure. But it's a watch, no ones life depends on it working (and the supposedly highest quality watches are sometimes notoriously inaccurate and unreliable anyway). Just my opinion, I'm not an expert.
It stands to reason that the issue of forced or child labour would be worse in the counterfeit world. Those big brands have a reputation/PR risk which counterfeiters don’t & the big brands also have a higher margin
I have a strong feeling that the Rolex he was reviewing was in fact a fake
The dad gave him one of the fake watches? Isnt that very hypocritical..?
I came here to post this comment actually I find it kind of sickening and shocking that he was locking people up for selling what he was wearing as a kid ... Wonder how many of their friends and family also got freebies... Funny how it's okay for the cops but not for everybody else... And to think these watch criminals probably went to jail... Watch brands have got bigger and bigger every year... Counterfeits totally help drive their market as a gateway product... as soon as a counterfeit wearer has enough money they generally buy a real one.... this is great for their business.... Total bulshit that someone's made their living locking up people for this trade... We need to fix real criminality before worrying about protecting big brands... Who don't pay tax and don't give a crap about you.
This guy sounds rather shady himself... Most likely a grifter.
Did he buy or steal the fake during one of those “raids”? lmao
Exactly, wouldn't doubt he was selling some on the side. So, dude just admitted he dad was is a criminal and how he said it makes me think he is as well.
@@JCosta-pw5ui He definitely seems that way, he's giving off the energy of some high paid 'consultant' or something who doesn't actually know jack about the subject matter. He's completely wrong and spreading outright propaganda on some of these claims
I had a fake Rolex that lasted me over 20 yrs. Not bad for $20 U.S. when I was in the Philippines in the 80s. Why did it break? I was wearing it when I crashed a motorcycle.
Insider should get a legit expert on, the world of super clone watches is very interesting, the quality, finishing and clone movements are crazy advanced today
This is just making me want a counterfeit. Literally such high quality that you can't distinguish them from the real deal? Then....why pay for the real deal?
Yeah i kinda agree , usually the people who pay the prices for these type of items have more money then sense
It's really come down to ethical reasons. With genuine Rolex watches you are paying for the cost of labour, production + profit. For the fakes you are honestly just paying for profit + production. The labourers get almost nothing after risking their lives. And for some consumers their pride, reputation, morals etc. have them paying higher for genuine.
@@atema5320 The average price of a rolex - the cheapest ones they make are 7 - 20 grand , i know they are unique and clearly well made but 20 thousand for a watch really is madness , its mainly greed and attention its just the same when moron celebrities spend 20 , 30 grand on a handbag , greedy people with too much money.
Why do people purchase real trading cards instead of fake ones?
Why do people purchase real fragrances instead of clones?
Why do people purchase real paintings instead of prints?
It's the exact same reasons, for the right of owning the real thing.
@@causetheplumstasteyum7848some people buy a rolex as an investment because they're worth more over time. Other people buy one to treat themselves for succeeding in life. Other people are just stupid rich, like you said, and buy them because the can, just to flex
Insider: Are you a counterfeit watch expert?
Dude: Yes, I have been on Aliexpress.
Insider: Come on in!
HE is a counterfeit expert. Not a real expert.
'Just buy from an AD!' Hahahaha Ok! sure 80s nostalgia man!
Yeah, good luck. I’ve been to 5 ADs around me and only one has put me on the list.
@@joseherrera8489 I've been on the "magical" waiting list for a Batman since 2018, its complete bs
You forgot to mention one important thing. If you want to buy a Rolex and have the money, it doesn't matter, they literally won't sell you one! So for the majority of people buying a fake is the only way to get one.
Well, certain models, sure, but the majority are readily available
@@ilijamatanovic4720like? OP maybe. But who wants an OP? Oh yeah, female models are probably also in stock. But again, who wants the women’s watches?
@@joseherrera8489 Walked into an AD last September as a new customer without any purchase history and left with an Explorer. Batgirl and No-Date Sub were available too. Most models are actually available today. It's rather a matter of how you present yourself and where you live.
If no one could tell the difference at glance, why would it matter?
@@joseherrera8489 I guess you're from the States? I'm in Southern Europe, you can get most GMT II's at ADs in my city, most Subs, Sprite especially now etc. Steel Daytonas are of course not readily available, new Yachtmaster either. Just came back from Hong Kong and Dubai. Rolexes galore. Every major airport this side of the world is also full
I'm not even halfway through this and 90% of what I've heard is incorrect or misleading.
If this is an average example of what law enforcement knows, it explains why so many reps get through customs.
0:55 a face and a dial are the same thing... you are looking for the term "crown". Easy mistake, especially when you already used the word crown to describe Rolex's logo. But then going on to say it is easy to spot a fake movement.... ehhh... you are about 5-10 years behind if you actually believe that.
😂😂😂 yea that made me laugh. "Dial and face"
He should have used the word "coronet" to describe the "crown". Man's a clown
I knew within the first 90 seconds this guy is a schmuck 😂😂
Rolex clones till this day don't use free sprung balance so it's very easy to determine it's fake even for someone with little knowledge once u open the watch, but other than that he is just talking garbage
Did Insider check this guy out first? Can I just present myself to them as an "expert" and they'll take my word for it?
Strong mall cop vibes. I would have expected to see him featuring in a stolen valour vid.
This video is so dated
That necklace he’s sporting. Never trust a man wearing something like that.
@@FCD844I was just about to comment the same thing😂😂😂
@@FCD844he really wants us to see it. Like the Johnny Bench necklace John Candy bought in Brewster’s Millions. (Google it :))
Dude is talking smack about China but is wearing a Dragon medallion…
He's probably being paid off by china
He missed the 1970s
Don’t worry it’s a fake
"The only thing worse than a fake Rolex, is a real one."
- Jeremy Clarkson
Who the eff buy LV counterfeit watches. At least say AP or something like Omega..
right! this guy is a clown
Oh no, it became harder for Rolex to artificially restrict product to inflate prices, im gonna cry
Artificially restrict? LMFAO bro they’re a private company they have every right to make only 1 watch a year if they feel like 💀 y’all are so slow oh my god please help us
@@reachthesingularity yea sure they absolutely do, and it still counts as artificial restriction.
@@ststst981 so by your definition any company that isn't producing product 24/7 regardless of demand is guilty of artificial restriction
@@hittingreens5646 any company that purposely ramps down production solely to create scarcity of their product is. It's legal but it's a shitty business practice. Why are you so desperate to suck off a watch company that shafts its customer base
they don't artificially restrict them. they make pretty much as many as people want that can afford them with around 1 million pieces produced per year. they are needlessly expensive and not debating with you on how much they cost or if the price is fair. just that it's not artificial inflation, it's just glam expensive like Versace or Gucci. for artificial restriction you can look to supreme or the diammond trade. supreme makes money off of fomo and people not being able to get ahold of their stuff, diamonds are a market created by diamond profiteers who have massive stores of this relatively useless gem.
14:05 the swipping hand comment 😅
I'm not even sure the guy knows the difference between automatic and quartz.
I’ve been in to watchs for about three years and I already know more about fakes than this guy. He is so misinformed. That chain he’s wearing is ridiculous. It probably fake.
Holy moly...he couldn't talk about watches for a minute without telling a story about his father.
this guy is a watch outsider. LOL Hillarious! comedy gold, jerry, GOLD!
What the deal with Ovaltine? They don't call it Roundtine 😂😂😂
Where did you find this guy? He doesn’t know basic terminology. Rolex if you are using him to find fakes, teach him basic terms and explain the “crown” is a coronet. Also folks take 98% of what he told you and forget about it
Big criminals calling little criminals illegal
Thank you!
😂😂😂lol
My father, my father, my father. Keep riding those coattails…
I read a comment once that said something like "fake watches sold cheap that are near identical to the real watches, is showing why real watches are just too overpriced"... It stuck in my head...
Same here. I remember seeing a video a couple years back where they compared a $900 "Super Clone" Rolex to the real thing under a microscope. Even the movement was spot-on. What was most stunning was that in some places the metal finish on the fake was more fine than the finish on the authentic item. The only thing the fake watch was missing was the wait-list. That video destroyed my perception of luxury swiss brands. I only go with microbrands nowadays and Timex for beater watches.
Paying a Swiss person a living wage is much more expensive than paying some Chinese child close to nothing
I’m glad all that counterfeiting is going on because the brands support the gray market to keep the prices up. Why I have to pay $15K if that Rolex msrp is $8K. Why I have to wait 2yrs to buy a Submariner?
This just proves that counterfeiting items isn't bad. This guy was wearing counterfeits as a kid given to him by his dad
He looks more likes a watch dealer than an investigator
Bro just said Louis Vuitton 🤭
MY Folex came in yesterday. Thank you Hong Kong
You like? Best quality only for you, sir.
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights Chinese quality > Swiss quality
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fightsthose trusted dealers usually call you 'my friend'
@@nhfanful Just mad you can't afford one.
You'll get there one day, buddy!
@@Watch_for_me Lols, an insecure Rolex owner who bases their worth on the watch they own. Not surprised
For vintage watches, don't go to an authorized dealer for repairs.
-antique roadshow
@@bozobebop5859 FYI, Antique Road Show is owned by Liberty Mutual Insurance. It is designed to upsell insurance policies.
If they are using the same machinery, what would they need child labor for? This is propaganda by the watch industry. If you are selling a product that can be reproduced for 1/20 th of your price... there is something totally wrong with your pricing!
Overhead, marketing and all the other things that go into running a business. It's not cheap you know.
The quality control of real watch makers creates massive rejected parts which significantly increases the cost. The precision of all the parts is so high that there is a considerable number of parts (a mechanical watch contains hundreds or thousands of invidivual parts) that are rejected due to minor manufacturing flaws. Counterfeit products can crank out cheap goods because they don't have this level of QC. The accuracy of and Omega (+/- 1 second a week) verses a Sieko (+/- 8 seconds a day) is why the former cost 10x the latter. A cheap knockoff is not only inaccurate, but it will probably die after a few months, and is almost guaranteed to not be as waterproof as an orignal.
The real Rolex takes months to make with real gold and other fine materials and it hold its value very well
@@delphic464 Which Omega is that accurate?
bc they dont use the same machinery, and a lot of the groups involved in counterfeit watches are terror groups like the Taliban
So the guys father was the one we should have interviewed
Undershirts, sir. Please consider them.
TAKE IT ALL OFF
Just button TF up
😂
How come, after so many years in the industry, he doesn’t know the “face” of the watch is called DIAL ?????
It sounds like this guys dad was running a gang of his own. Sawing doors and confiscating property as a private investigator/off duty cop? Shameful.
That was my thought exactly. How can a civilian just break into someone else's store and "confiscate" (i.e. steal) their stuff? Even cops need a warrant in most cases. Then again, I'm not American, maybe there you can just call your gang "Investigators" and go play cops and nobody minds.
This guy is faker than those $5 watches. The "$200.000 price on my dad's head" sounds like a complete BS, and he obviously has no clue about watches. I would be surprised if anything that he talks about is true.
Where did they find this "Expert" 😂😂
This guy knows nothing about watches.
There are MANY excellent grey market dealers out there!
NEVER but a watch new!
Only buy preowned, you’ll save a fortune.
My Casio Calculator Watch had better not be fake.
Bad news they actually fake casios and seikos now
I bet that watch already paid for itself in poon!
it does happen....😂
@@aimonaidark The way you tell a fake seiko is everything lines up correctly.
@@claytonberg721 lmao true 🤣
The only one that got duped is the "Journalist" who did this interview. It's ironic, because this guy is a fake. No one buys a fake LV and you can absolutely just search for clone, replica, or fake. You can buy a superclone with ease. This guy has no clue.
This must be an old video
BECAUSE THIS GUY IS WAY OFF ABOUT THE MODERN “super clone replicas”
You mean epic clones lol
This man lost me, because he thinks "the face of the watch" and the dial are different. The amount of misinformation this guy is telling his audience is baffling.
Aren’t they different features or is that wrong?
@@gamerbabyythe face and dial are the same thing, he probably meant the crown of the watch as that’s what the video showed.
Yeah, he has said a few things that are not correct. He still needs to get a little better educated when it comes to watches.
Yeah something about him didn't ring true. He's the sort of guy you can imagine propping up a bar and telling everyone in earshot, about his time in the Navy Seals/CIA/NASA etc etc.
@@AnonymousUA-camconsumerHe also said band when almost everyone would call it a bracelet
Clearly this guy has never been into an AD. The AD`s have forced us all to use the grey market they all `hate`??
Next video please - How Counterfeit Experts Actually Work
lol true.
If sweat shops and child labor can produce quality of watches close to the original..... these countries sure train their worker very well
I’m so glad that guy left his shirt open so we could all see his necklace 🙄
Lol when they showed Ali Express
😂😂 that made me laugh
why pay so much when you can get a 95% similarity for 5% price?
Could say the same thing about a lot of stuff though , look how many people have iphones , you can get a very similar smartphone for a fraction of the price that can almost do all the things the iphone can , not to mention how much they sell for an actually cost to produce , its very easy for most people to just follow whats trending and go with the same thing
@@causetheplumstasteyum7848 Yup. You can say the same thing about trading cards, paintings, fragrances, etc.
what is this guy saying. First of all, the high quality copies are Super Clones, not Epic Fakes, that is a term no one in the industry uses. Also they dont use the same machines, they use similar types, but not the same, as Rolex, Patek, and others have their own custom equipment.
Also what he said it not the "Grey Market, that in the Black Market. Grey Market are legit second hand watch dealers, may times Jewelers, selling real watches second hand because they are not authorized retailers. They are actually regulated in the US and most countries (under trade laws they are regulated, they all are insured, bonded, etc), to ensure the watches aren't stolen, and they would not be able to do "mixing", those are underground black market dealers, not Grey Market. And a lot of those things he describes of the black market, hasnt existed in 20+years
It is also false that the brands do not like the secondhand Grey Market, Rolex actually encourages it. In fact the largest Grey Market seller in the world is owned by Richmont, a major watch company that owns brands like IWC, Cartier, Vacheron Constantin, and others.
Most repair shops are honest, it is very rare to find ones like he describes anymore, not for years. It is a small industry, and everyone knows each other.
Also what called "Franken Watches" is not what Franken Watches are. Franken Watches are watches made from mismatched parts by a trained horologist to recycle parts from older broken watches. They are very obviously such watches, and never met a dealer who tried to pass off one as real.
For an alleged expert, he knows so little about the industry he is talking about
Thanks! Absolutely right
Most of his "mistakes" are just out of date/generalized, not flat out wrong.
Yeah, they could've gotten somebody more up-to-date, but they probably liked his stories about the seedy '80s. Nothing wrong with adding a little jazz.
My friend has a Superclone of the same Rolex he owns. Genuine one he keeps in a safe because he's scared he'd lose it in a mugging.
Canal street still strong in 2024 lol
i'm glad these fakes exist since rolex decided to don't sell watches anymore...
The way to learn well hidden information online is not to ask for the information, but rather provide incorrect information, and everyone will simply correct you. Good job, everyone! I'm sure he appreciates all the tips.
*Nico has entered the chat*
So sad to think this guy has been at this since 1995 and doesn’t really know what he’s talking about. How embarrassing.
I had absolutely no idea about the epic fakes. Now I'll try to look harder.
Nice necklace, bro
Lmao
Lived in Shenzhen for 5 years. The big shopping center near the train station has 8 floors of copy goods, including watches. My Bleitling from those days is still working well.
Louhu commercial city shopping center on the Louhu/Hong Kong border lol. I pass by it everyday.
Communism and communist countries suck
Louise Vitton watches?
This guy says things that are not consistent with a professional person in the business.
I thought I might learn something watching this video, and I did. I learned that my knowledge of watches is far superior to this so called expert.
Couldn't hit water if he fell out out of a boat...
10:50 busting counterfeit Rolexes so his son can walk around with a counterfeit Rolex, you know where the priority is at
"Super clone" it's called not epic
We got counterfeit perfume on canal st. Ralph Laureeen. Polo for women. Became a running joke in the family.
Vs and clean factory...are the best at the moment...
Watching this video wearing my VSF Rolex super clone. Loving it.
lololol just don't go skiing
Clean Factry here hahahaha
Same.
I paused this video before I was 2 minutes in, had the feeling this guy was full of crap. Judging from the comments, it seems indeed that this guy is full of crap.
I bought a Rolex fake from a street vendor in down-town Toronto once. There was no pretense that it was the genuine article. I wanted a watch that looked expensive and could keep time. For $40 Can, I got a watch that was electro-plated to look gold, a quartz movement and a synthetic mother-of-pearl face. Requirements fulfilled.
The down side: it was heavy, the case had sharp edges and the band was difficult to adjust and fasten. It may have looked good, but it was uncomfortable to wear. And the cheap quartz movement was loud. I had to stuff it in my sock drawer or it would keep me up at night.
Paying $1000 or more for a knock-off is not something I would ever do. And no, I won't buy the chaep knock-off ever again. These days, my phone is my watch anyway.
I once worked with a woman who had a *Swatch Watch bought in Germany* She wore it every day but we only got to see the cool things it did twice a year. I'd rather have that and four car payments than a real Rolex.
Jerseys are the same way. Why pay 200 for one from Nike when you can buy an identical knockoff from China for 15.
I would be shocked to find the products are made in the place.
It's all made in China anyway
If you go to Vietnam, you’d realize they are made in the same place lmao
So this guy said when he was 14 he was walking around with a replica Rolex and to this day probably still can’t afford a gen.
I particularly enjoyed learning that one must open the watch to determine authenticity only for The Watcher Jr. here to list off a number of ways to identify a legit timepiece just by inspecting elements of it's face.
Let me see if I understand. If I see words like "replica", "dupe", "clone" or "1:1", it's *probably* a counterfeit? How many decades of experience did it take to craft such a pearl of wisdom?
I'll keep buying my clones thank you.
There was a guy in Chaing Mai Thailand this year that got busted by Rolex in Thailand with support of the police because he sent $5m in super fakes over to Europe. I don’t think the guy in this video was a watch expert as he doesn’t seem to know the lingo.
just looking at rolexes on the internet and this pops up.....THANKS!
If it's identical to the real deal, I might as well buy the counterfeit than paying the "brand tax" 😂
This is a lot more interesting than expected
Funny story, my brother has an extremely rare, almost perfectly preserved Rolex and when I had to have something done on it, the woman in the store didn't believe that it was real. She called her boss who also thought it was a fake (until he ran the serial number through the computer) whereupon a big apology was made 😁
The only way to spot a high end fake is to open the back and look at the movement. Even genuine Rolexes are often not "perfect".
Where I am from, a key aspect of fake luxury is that it is bought by people who KNOW it is fake and they only want to reward themselves with a fake notion of luxury, or to fool people around them who do not know better. And they would never buy the original for the full price. At least here in Europe, people know full well that a fake is a fake based on who sells and where.
See I don't have to worry about any of this because I bought my $60 invicta straight from invicta lol
People hate on invicta but they are solid beater watches at a great value
Somebody call Nico
I want his reaction
Who cares what the fat guy has to say
I'm surprised his Dad allowed him to wear a fake Rolex when he had a first hand view of what they support. Everyone says 'well, it can't hurt just this once' (I'm guilty of thinking that way, too), but the problem is, all those 'just once's' add up fast and boom, you've got a market fpr counterfeits .
The dragon pendent lets you know hes the real deal
The way things are going now, i wouldn't be surprised if the genuine products' quality drops to the point that counterfeits become _better._
The laser etched crowns on the crystals of "fake" Rolexes vs the real ones... the resolution and clarity is better on the clones.
The fakes are already better per dollar spent because the price isn't inflated lol
oh no someone counterfeits an unnecessarily high priced watch :( what will we do (keep making them bc who cares)
it always makes me laugh when i see people on the second hand market selling used "rolexes" for like 20usd (for example like a oyster perpetual explorer) saying they just need the batteries replaced lmao
Moral of the story: buy directly from the brand when feasible.
Taking evidence home doesn’t sound shady at all.
😂😂 yeah that's was a dead giveaway this guy is full of it
This was a good watch!
Round of applause for a dad joke that is actually funny!
I worked at Intel until 2007. Expensive labor drove our manufacturing to Puerto Rico, then Malaysia, then China. Chinese factories made our product legitimately during the day, then made knockoffs at night by paying the police to stay away. On more than one occasion, we received phone calls from US Customs in Memphis who suspected a shipment to be counterfeit. Pre-production integrated circuits was a dead giveaway. We also added features in the production printed circuit board that looked innocuous to the untrained eye. Every case was a "deal" made by a wholesaler in the gray market. Chinese steal because the rest of the world stole paper, gunpowder, and other technology without compensating them. Bribery is expected.