Netflix’s Avatar is Everything I Feared…
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2024
- TLDR The Last of Us did it better.
Maybe my love of the original show is blinding me, but I feel that Netflix’s Avatar remake sucks absolute platypus bear eggs. It has the same issues as the 2010 movie, just in different ways. It disrespects the original, and falls into the same traps of every other modern Hollywood fiasco. Thanks Netflix, I hate it.
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I have a question, what do you think is worse, the movie or the series?
I'm just so sick of the idea that animation is some kind of "inferior" form of cinema.
I feel like the main reason for giving Kyoshi so much attention while reducing Roku's role was the classic Disney Marvel Star Wars "GIRL POWER" thing. There's nothing wrong with making powerful and prominent female characters, but when they're done right, which the original show did with nearly every female character they had. This ain't it, chief. This just feels forced.
It totally was for that. That’s why they also included that line with Katara about finding a master and her say “you looking at her” totally leaving out her growth as a water bender through the whole season. But there’s a reason for it, it is now an unwritten rule that girl characters can’t have male mentors bc of girl power and all that, which just cheapens the female character all together.
6:04 god I rolled my eyes when I saw this scene for the first time, the writers’ of this show really wanted to get pegged by kyoshi that they diminished the significance and presence of Roku as a character, he’s that calm demeanor that can switch into being serious when it matters, not this old man who trolls Aang with this corny aah elder joke.
No wonder why the creators left
I mean they literally wrote episode 1, were part of the dogshit m night movie, and (allegedly) wanted to make even more radical changes in the neflix show, but nobody wants to talk about that. Everyone who says this rarely knows what they're talking about
@@real_dirty_dan oop, it isn’t avatar. not even close, plus Katara is like a parody of her animated counterpart
@@susanstorm7910 Ok? That has nothing to do with what I said at all. I never claimed that the show is perfect, just that ppl who say stuff like “I see why the creators left” are very misinformed/ignorant
They really don't respect the source material
God, Sokka 'losing is sexism' is such a weird move. The entire point is that he develops, which shows he's willing to change his mind if proven wrong and also puts out an actively anti-sexist message. Not only that, but Sokka's attitude gives us a strong insight into his culture, as well. He wasn't just born an asshole, this is something he learned from his family before they were wiped out, something he internalized as a kid.
That's good worldbuilding since, without that much time or focus, you're directly implying things that become obvious about the Northern Water Tribe's culture and social norms through Sokka. We're setting little hints up, right? So when we finally get there and Pakku's a sexist scumbag, it makes more sense to us. Because we've seen this before WITH SOKKA. Which also sets up the obvious conclusion that Pakku might ALSO be open to change if he's knocked down a peg and proven wrong about Katara's abilities.
I mean, this is all good shit, you know?
Yeah man, the original is perfect. It’s almost as if they couldn’t improve upon it even if they tried, which it seems they didn’t.
@@SaceStationThe writers feel like they don't trust their viewers - constant exposition, characters have their flaws removed (to the point of being bland), etc. Part of what makes fiction fun is seeing characters grow (and sometimes fall/fail), and turning Sokka into this boring guy whose only "flaw" is that he feels a bit inadequate because his dad doesn't trust him (another weird change) but is otherwise just a good guy with not a ton to work on. He was my favorite character in the original and I think the actor's doing the best he can (most of the cast is) but the writing is letting them all down.
The argument towards the end about getting your dad to watch The Last of Us resonates so much with me!
I know my father would love Avatar TLA, but I know he'd dismiss watching it only because it's a cartoon. If the live action was an accurate representation of it, he could have enjoyed it that way. But because the live action lacks any depth and emotion, I wouldn't want his impression of Avatar to be tainted with that :(
Couldn’t have said it better myself friend!
6:28 I cringed when watching this. I cringed when seeing it again. Even Aang cringed.
Right? Dude I was screaming at my screen in genuine anger. 🤬
I just want us to have higher standards. That’s all I’m gonna say. Great video!!!
Great, so we want the same thing! Thanks a ton, I appreciate it!
I think they did Zuko the most justice. They managed to portray his moody, angry temperament pretty accurately to the cartoon from what I've observed, and the actor as well did a hell of a job executing it.
The team behind Netflix ATLA should bow down to M. Night Shyamalan because if not for his movie their project would be considered the one of the most terrible adaptations ever graced our eyes.
Hahahaha yeah good point.
I m okay with th showing mai and ty lee. Why not?
But even then, they do it with a laxk of talent.
In the original, we meet ty lee doing gymnastics during the whole discussion. Even without dialogues, you d know what she does.
Same for mai, as soon as we see her she is brooding and say she is bored.
Here they just stand and do nothing. They really just are there to give a wink to fans, new viewers will have no idea what these two girls are about...
Poor story telling. And it goes like this for everything in this adaptation.
100%. And also, Ty Lee’s introduction in the original demonstrated Azula’s controlling nature as Ty Lee didn’t want to join her. In this show, they’re all just standing there like you said.
@@SaceStation yeah, i m not even mentionning the blackmailing or how she bows to Azula first thing. This is more revealing about Azula s character.
Just seeing her do gymnastics during the first conversation.Not just standing like a statue...
And it s not the poor girls' fault, i can only imagine the director was like "okay, you are there, and don t forget azula is your friend, so you listen to her." And so they did just that.
What a waste of screen time.
It's terrible
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It’s not great but it’s better than that Garbage M Night Shamalamadingdong’s version
For sure it’s definitely better. But in my opinion it still has the same issues, just to a lesser degree. The shyamalan version is just absolutely bottom of the barrel.
Why do so many people say this?
That's nothing to brag about, the bar couldn't possibly be lower.
@@sergiosarmiento4371 if we were to JUST compare Shyamalan movie to this, this one would be a win (to an extent). BUT if we were to then compare this to the original, it would still be a loss. Accurate bending power and character design aside, the characters and storylines still suffer from bad pacing and jumbling of arcs that will bite them when they get to bk2 and 3.
My grievances are as follows with this show: they rushed the storylines so much that it feels like that Team Avatar doesn’t really know each other or are close to each other and doesn’t let important storylines be fleshed out (ie the blue spirit and the tunnels of the two lovers) . Certain characters being in this season when they shouldn’t be and playing a part that will screw up THEIR ORIGINAL STORYLINE in the seasons coming up bc they are too early. The cheapening of character arc and the robbing of character agency: Zhao was lead by the nose by Azula (SHE was the one who got him the archers, SHE figured out Zuko was the blue spirit, let my man be ambitious and actually smart like he’s suppose to be), Bumi was jaded, bitter, and antagonistic towards Aang. And the true travesty was Aang; through the whole show he was joyless, down trodden, too serious and too fearful. Just hopeless in many aspects without an anchor because of the first reason stated. The only ones I was satisfied with was really Zuko and Iroh. I out of everyone they felt the most like themselves albeit somewhat NERFED in their abilities.
0:12 Ah yup.
Case in point.
Guy escaping from fire nation soldiers puts a wall up in front of himself to trap himself instead of escape with wall behind him.
Airbenders can fly now, so fly away from the temple not corner yourselves in a room waiting for death. Also SKY BISONS... SKY BISONS
Stalker Suki literally makes me uncomfortable. I do not care if they're teens and teens can get "THAT WAY" it still felt cringe. I'll take the Sokka Suki original interaction please.
6:23 WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ON AANG!? He is back to make things right again isn't he?
I SWEAR that earthbender in the beginning could’ve made it if he wanted to. He did NOT have to put that wall up😂
10:15
Bruh, I vaguely knew what The Last of Us was before I started the show with my boyfriend, someone who actually played the game.
Not only did I understand and like the story, but despite the much shorter time frame, I **almost** cried when Joel's daughter died.
Two characters who until I hit play on my tv, I'd never known the names of.
That's excellent writing.
TLoU was great, even for those of us with no attachment to the game.
The live action Avatar wasn't even an okay show. I don't know how anyone liked it, fans or no.
Now you know how it felt for us gamers when that scene happened in the game😢. But that’s the potential of a well done adaptation👍
Yeah.. I’ll just watch the cartoon again, sigh
This is a recurring theme. The current crop of script writers have too much ego to do an adaptation that respects the source material. Instead they're constantly looking for opportunities to insert themselves, rewriting perfectly good material just so it will be _their_ work. Then it turns out worse simply because people with this level of ego don't have the kind of artistic talent it takes to do something really good.
It's a form of parasitism. They base their work on popular source material to get more attention than they would get if they did their own thing. And then they ruin it out of incompetence. They hang on the coat tails of good work to feed on the goodwill someone else earned, then run the entire IP into the ground. Like Disney did with Star Wars.
"You found a master, haven't you?"
"Yes... you're looking at her."
Dude....... Not only is Aang actually about as good at Waterbending at this point in the show, but Zuko's referring to Paku. And he's right!
Katara's time will come. But that time is not right now. She only grows into Aang's master for real after leaving the Northern Tribe.
Dude Pakku doesn’t even train Katara in the Netflix version. It’s just like the Mulan remake where she’s already great but just needs to stop holding back and show everyone her greatness. It’s bollocks. They changed the line from the original from “but you still won’t train me” to “but you still won’t let me fight.” She’s already a master somehow…
@@SaceStation Holy crap, that's dumb. She's the last Waterbender of her tribe, of course she shouldn't be good at it at first because her entire arc is about trying to reconnect with her culture and slowly become a great master of the art.
They also take out her insecurities of not being a quick study of bending as Aang. Aang never even TRIED to waterbend this whole season. In the original I loved how after being under the tutelage of Paku, Paku gives her the greatest compliment saying that she is the only student of his that improved in such a short time, showing that hard work, tenacity and determination are the making of a great bender and that only relying on natural talent is not enough (looking at Aang who embodies this) showing that yes she may have to work harder than Aang for some things, but that doesn't mean she is not going to succeed.
And its also interesting that they were in the North for weeks (at most) before everything went down, not just a day and a half, God the pacing of this show...
@@taylorwarden205 Something that's always been super neat to me is that there's probably a really fair chance that Katara's early struggles were from her picking up bad Bending habits.
I mean, think about it, right? She's self taught and she's literally just trying to feel out how to do an entire style of martial arts on her own. Meanwhile, we know from Jong Jong that just breathing wrong can mess with your Bending.
Put that next to a natural prodigy that mastered Airbending before he was a teenager, and no wonder Katara had such a worse time of it. But I also feel like Katara's biggest strength has always been her ability to think creatively, right?
She knows what she wants to do and she's got the mindset, she's just lacking the experience to actually do it. But then flash forward 3 seasons, and the way she deals with Azula is genuinely pretty brilliant, taking out one of the most dangerous characters in the show on her own pretty easily.
The cartoon had to cut a lot of stuff down because of scheduling with Nickelodeon all they had to do was copy that and add onto the parts that couldn’t be included in the original
That doesn’t necessarily work. Yes, initially in that process you cut ideas. That has more consequences than those things being not there. It may be that they recycled those ideas in the second or third season, so if you implement them now, what do you do later on? Or you find creative ways around it that close other doors. It’s not so simple.
The entire vibe of remaking not only avatar, but one piece and cowboy bebop into live action can be summed up in one word: cringe
I thought people liked the One Piece remake? Either way, I agree with you.
Have you ever compared "The Untamed" to its animated counterpart, "Mo Dao Zu Shi"?
@@ThePrincessCH Ive never heard of either, is it good?
@@eonhet7826 Yes. I recommend them, if you have no issues listening to Chinese.
@@eonhet7826 Yes. Both versions have been fairly well received.
The CGI in this show is not bad? what are you talking about. I do agree the writing is pretty bad though, they shouldn't have included as much as they did. The Casting is perfect though. It seems like writers today really don't understand how to show and not tell. Also they absolutely should have had Roku possess Aang instead of Kyoshi. And they should not have combined so many episodes from the original into the Omashu episodes. There's just wayyyyy too much in those episodes.
I guess “bad” is the wrong way to describe the cgi in this show. I think a better word is “inconsistent.” Sometimes it looks alright, other times it looks laughable. I honestly just have a vendetta against the overuse of CGI nowadays. It’s too heavily relied upon and rushed, and I found it to be hit or miss. For instance, compare the cgi from Ant Man 3 to the original Iron Man. It’s not even close, but we’ve grown accustomed to mediocre CGI as the new norm.
i realy disliked the omashu episode because wtf was jet and the mechanic doing in omashu. king bumi was also just not bumi he was a bit to serious
My gut reaction when I heard they were making the live action series was that they should leave well enough alone. Maybe they should have made the series about a previous avatar instead.
I was thinking that as well, why not set it in a different time with different characters? That way it’s not an adaptation of preexisting material and you can avoid the comparisons. But nah, they wanted cash in on that avatar hype.
Watching this at night and every time he puts a news headline on the screen it feels like a flashbang. My eyes will never forgive me
I thought about this while editing but didn’t think it would actually be an issue. I sincerely apologize 😅
Cosplayers could easily make more convincing live action versions of avatar characters then this massacre Netflix created
everybody leave bad reviews on this show hopefully they reach the right people for season 2 and 3
This is a great video, and I'm surprised you only have 63 subscribers. Using Eterna City in the background is an instant sub. I'm excited to see more videos from you!
Another person of culture! Thanks a ton friend
No Bryke. No Aaron or Elizabeth Ehasz. Oh dear, that’s bad.
HOW DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE 89 SUBS?!?!?!
Because he waste a lot of time yapping instead of getting to the point.
I agree 100%, I wasn't expecting anything perfect when I started watching the live-action and still got disappointed by the 4th episode in...
I was disappointed the moment it started…
@@SaceStation and I don't blame you, I should have been too. 🤦♂️
I feel like they just ruined the characters for me. Sokka was pretty good, but many of the others didn't feel like ones I knew and loved.
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Be fair,bad dialoge is actually preety good in prequalls. Since its actually funny and not soul crushing. Which makes it ironic,since they did not tried to be funny. Spiderman 3 also has the same unintentional humor with prequalls.
They’re cutting the main katara episodes out. Like the pirate episode when she looses her necklace. And then like you said the haru one. She has a ton of character development in that episode.
Come on dude don't you even know anything about Avatar the Last Airbender? It is a story about flailing around tossing elements at each other. Characters got nothing to do with it.
finally someone says what needs to be said about the show. When I watched the live action I dropped it and binged the original cartoon
Netflix avatar is in a parallel universe
lets hope that they dont make legend of korra like this
you act like legend of korra was good to begin with
@@TRISTANTHEGAMER imagine the irony if the live action korra ended up bieng better than the series
@@hueyfreeman6262 the bar's really low so that's possible
@@hueyfreeman6262 It woud be so funy.
Problem is that Kora is everything Netflix whant out of a show in terms of characters, problem is that the action will be 10 times beter than hwat Netflix will do.
This show is not mid, it’s not okay, it’s trash. Absolutely utter trash. It gets everything wrong. Even some of the additions some people praise are not that good. They are in fact bad compared to the original. The creators of the live action did not respect the OG in any way. In fact they completely ruined it. Just another Netflix cash grab attempt. Boils my blood when I hear people say well at least it’s better than the Shyamalan movie. Everything is better than the Shyamalan movie!!!!! That means nothing!!!! Sigh…. Inner peace… inner peace…..
so I take you didn’t like it?
@@zach_94 so I take you’re kinda coping still? 😅
@@loonu1991so I take your being too serious?
@@frankoreyes6219 way to go! You spotted the pattern 😅
@@frankoreyes6219 also *you’re
Black suit spidey is right
I didn't like that Aang had no character development, imo, Sokka's character development, completely gone, just eye candy for Suki, (which to me is sexist in a different way, Sokka no longer is a boy who needs to learn and grow, he's a buff dude with muscles and Suki likes the muscles, and they kissed, and storyline works "even better" now, 🤦🏾♂️), and Katara, with no anger, no passion, no real emotion, or drive at all to become a PROPER master water bender, Aang didn't bend a drop of water in season 1, season 2 is earth, and 3 is fire...yet we never seen him learn water first, lastly, Zuko didn't say honor once, (which hurt me, lol), Azula and Ozai were...off, she no longer is the manipulative perfectionist,she was so...plain, boring, not scary, at all, and shown to much, and Ozai...should've not gotten that far into the Agnai Kai, he's supposed to walk to Zuko, no emotion, scar him for disobeying a direct order, (without TEARS in his eye's, where's the evil, caniving, warlord that shows Zuko NO mercy and is trying to teach him a lesson for disobeying?), and Zuko as a CHILD should have been at his fathers knees, begging for forgiveness,as he knew what he did was out of line, (again,in my opinion).
I'm terrified they're gonna butcher Toph, they already ruined the surprise of the library next season, as well as the whole arc with Aang & Katara, and the secret tunnel, my favorite earth bender next to her daughters and Kuvira from Season 4 of LOK, they ruined Bumi too, for me at least, let's hope season 2 is at least watchable, this first season for me gets a 5/10, while all 7 season's of both ATLA & LOK are 10/10, (imo). 💯
😮 it's just mind-boggling to me😮 why don't you already have all the scenes just take the scenes take the f****** print out😮 take the lines and do exactly everything that we've already seen that's how you satisfy us and the people who have never seen it what is wrong with you😮 why do they just think they can rewrite history😮 play two cavemen looking at a wheel we could make the wheel better by turning it into a square ⬛😮 is something in the water what is wrong with this planet😮
You said it my friend. They’ll learn one day, hopefully…
Man this shit was not it, they hyped it so much to find out it’s a complete disappointment
To be fair about the speaking of Roku:
Aang is later even able to speak with him outside of that windows to, in the cartoon. At last, if he meet the turtle in S3.
And in the comic "The promise", has he a pendant with the symbol of the 4 nations, that allows him to speak with the avatars to (he cutted the connection to Roku, after he take the fire symbol from that pendant away).
So, that he speak Kyoshi is something, that could be possible. Or, is simply creative freedom.
He does gain the ability to talk to the other avatars later, but like you said that’s Book 3, after Aang has been training like a maniac and coming into his own as the avatar. In this Netflix version we don’t even see him waterbend yet.
This feels like it misses the point, though. There's a lot of tension around Aang speaking to Roku because we've never seen it before. They're on a hard time limit and Aang doesn't even know if it's possible for him to do the thing or not, so there's a lot of buildup and significance to this moment.
Afterwards he channels Roku in front of Jong Jong, channels Kyoshi for the Trial, sees people in The Swamp, etc. But seeing Roku for the first time is a big deal, and having him channel other Avatars before him takes away from how special that moment really is.
Not the prequels catching strays. Stand up, bruh. They were good. How about the SEQUELS
I couldn't even finish this crappy adaptation, I saw 3 episodes and my brain was about to explode so I quit in ep.3......dodging the BUMI bullet.....I feel proud about that. Man 2 live actions, 2 disappointing adaptations, at this point I hope they stop making any adaptation of Avatar in live action forever.
Omg, what's the theme song? I know it is from some of the Pokemon games but, which one??
I put a link in the description, it’s the Eterna city theme from Pokemon platinum. Good catch 😁
Anime is great because you can have goofy looking characters that can be taken seriously while they do physic defying moves. Actors look dumb when they try to act like, talk like, and look like their anime counterparts. Why are people obsessed with making live action versions of anime?
Perfectly stated my friend👌
What Anime ?
Have you ever compared "The Untamed" to its animated counterpart, "Mo Dao Zu Shi"?
Let's set all these analyses and appropriate questions aside and ask ourselves the BIG question:
WHY - why is this live action show even necessary?? The animated og is still there, right on Netflix, and as beautiful and culturally relevant as ever!
I agree, and I hate the stigma placed on animated shows that label them as “for kids.” It’s for all ages, and we don’t need a “mature” version. In fact, I’d argue the animation is more mature than the live action.
No respect for and no understanding of the original.
Tbh some people claim that insiders said that the writers of ATLA left the show because they wanted to take away some things that they did not like from their previous work and redo it basically in a way that fans would not like to have seen. And they left because they would not let them, bc and there is proof of it in the sense that in previous events when asked about the show they do mention regret in some areas ( i can’t recall , i do remember the video though ) . Basically what I wish for them to do is to kept going with the show and not end it there, because firstly they could improve. And secondly, I just want new atla content no matter what, considering the series finished 12 years ago. Idk man I’m just happy with it being displayed in real life despite the acting being barely memorable
I’ve seen people mention this before, but I haven’t seen anything that corroborates it. That’s not to say it’s not true. Either way, it would mean that Netflix and Bryke parted ways because Bryke wanted to make changes to their own show, but Netflix didn’t agree with those changes. So instead, they made their own terrible changes? How’s that better? Also, does that mean Netflix made a more faithful adaptation than the show’s own creators would have? Imagine if that were true 😂
@@SaceStation Given the fact that many of the original creator whent and made Kora which isnt a good show and brings some really bad changes to the universe i am not suprised and i dont think the show woud have been that much better whit them on it.
how do you only have 100 subs, your content is awesome.
I was dreading the remake ever since the original guy's left due to differences, and now we can see and understand why.
I was never a fan of a remake tbh, but it was inevitable and such but my gosh, how do they ruin SO much..??
Aang never waterbends.. Zuko fights Ozai, Sokka isn't himself, Katara is.. as expected, the ultimate, what??
It makes me sad watching people praise the netflix show, it shows people truly missed the original so much.
You can like this show, god knows why but go ahead, but some go as far as to say it's better, how?
I fear for what will happen to Toph, although we can hope a second season doesn't happen, it's possible.
Glad to see more people speaking about the show and how it's destroying the original in every way.
Honestly, I write poor characters myself and I hate nothing more than to see characters assassinated and ruined in adaptations.
Unfortunately, it has already been confirmed for a season 2 and 3
@@liamminnihan9021 O boy!
I find it interesting that so many people jump to the creators leaving. They were involved in and praised the M. Night film until it bombed. Please someone correct me if this isn't the case but I remember reading that they left this project due to Netflix wanting it to remain closer to the source material while the creators wanted to make changes.
I’ve seen tons and tons and tons of people on tiktok mention this show and say that it’s better or even as good as the original. And their reasoning is just stupid shit like “it’s more realistic.” How??? Because it shows violence and people dying?? It’s literally a fantasy world where people have elemental powers and people can talk and interact with spirits. How the fuck are you supposed to make that realistic?? Bumi for example. I am not exaggerating countless people have said his character is better and more realistic now than in the cartoon….. I don’t even know what to say. It’s so ridiculous how oblivious some people are to the differences from the source material. They don’t understand why the original was the way it was.
@@mandod1986Yes you’re right. People are hyper fixating on the original creators leaving when it’s not relevant. They left because they wanted to make an entirely new Avatar story separate from the original.
I completely agree
I said it when I finished watching it. I honestly think they (the showrunners) thought they were gonna get cancelled after season 1, like many other Netflix /streaming shows , and went out and threw as much out as possible into this season, like Azula/Ozai or the Secret tunnel episode and the Spirit Owl
Your analogy with TLOU on HBO is kinda wrong. Neil was only a small part of the first game, Amy Hennig and Bruce Straley were at the forefront of the story/script of the first game. They both left before TLOU 2 and Neil was the sole creative director and story lead for the sequel, which as many know, was quite controversial and nowhere near as good as the first game. The HBO adaptation is much more of what Neil wanted for the game than focusing on what Bruce and Amy made for the game.
Calling it 85-90% accurate is just not true.
Small part or not, he was still was one of the original directors of the game. And the story of the show is very accurate to the game’s, with some scenes being almost 1 to 1 adaptations. While Druckmann made some odd choices in the second game, in my opinion it was really Halley Gross who ruined it.
I find it amazing that people of our generation who must have also grown up with us, have gone on to make and produce these shit adaptations! How? Mind boggling! IS there some agenda at work in Hollywood or have some people our age simply lost their minds!? What is HAPPENING!?
I liked it, its like 70% there, similarities in the fisical appearance its evident but it also is the most basic comparison. water tribe is boring, fire nation related storys are really well done. but then again its a kid show, there are some tla scenes that I cant stand as an adult, and they translate bad to the live action, but this is great, they did the important thing that is to keep avatar series alive so when technologies come to do more ambitious work more affordable its gonna be great. its like a 6.5-7/10 for me. not terrible, its has really good parts and some really awful ones.
imo the more it goes apart from the kids show the better. I think what dimartino really gave us its not just a great story, but a great universe, let aang die like many other avatars and start doing a more serious show. korra did it, its a teenager show, and now I would like to see and adult version, also, a story 500 years in the future or in the past where korra and aang are irrelevant. that would be nice.
That’s an interesting way to look at. I also feel there’s more potential to explore the world of avatar without continuing to adapt preexisting material. Good take👌
I didn't like a lot of the changes made in the HBO version The Last of Us, I think it also suffers from some of the issues of Netflix ATLA wherein its changes mess with the internal logic of the original story. A big one for me is the Sam/Henry arc which was originally about ordinary people surviving against straight forward villains. The TV show tries to give the characters more complex motivations, but that doesn't match the basic outline of the story. If I'm supposed to believe the HBO version of the Hunters are actually "justified in their actions from their perspective" style villains and not "a random group of apocalyptic thieves" then YOU CAN'T STILL DO THE AMUSH SCENE FROM THE GAME. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
Nevertheless, the HBO show is still generally competent when it is doing its own thing and not directly adapting the game. The Bill/Frank episode is the thing everyone loves and that was the most off-script. Say what you will about the HBO TLOU, those writers have competent.
I can't say that about Netflix ATLA on any level.
It feels like they said “what are you favorite moments from the show” and put them all into season 1 regardless of if they were in book 1 water or 2 earth. What’s are they going to do in season 2 when you moved several characters and plots and put them into season 1? It won’t make sense to put Haru into season 2…
What i always find funny about the whitewashing issue is that theyre completely silent about the indian washing of the fire nation . Or the blackwashing of L in Deathnote.
I’m pretty sure people took issue with the changing of the fire nation into exclusively Indian, but I agree with you. There’s almost certainly a double standard nowadays, especially when it comes to the casting of ginger characters.
indian cast? they did that in 2010 and it doesn't work
I'm not sure what you're on about, people were constantly making fun of the Indian Fire Nation and pointing out how weird the decision was.
Here's the big secret, though:
There are way more white roles than black/asian/indian roles. So it's harder to really get as mad about an American project with minority representation because at least they're giving work to (usually) good underrepresented actors. As weird as Black L was, at least that's one black guy who got a shot at doing a big role who might not have had that exposure otherwise. Sure, he's not great, but what if he killed it and that lead to more jobs he might not have because it's just hard to get big early roles as a black actor?
It's not like all of these changes are equal. Some of them do just have more real-world positive outcomes than others, you know? So who gives a shit? It's not like any of these minority race swaps are hurting you or something, sometimes it's shit. Other times Lance Reddick as Wesker is the only good part of the show. It just is what it is.
Y’know, word on the street is that shyamalan was forced into a situation where the main trio ended up being white. At the time, Zuko was also supposed to be played by Jesse McCartney, who is also white. So in a fit of desperation, he casted Dev Patel to try and balance out the whitewashing. It was just a string of unfortunately bad decisions😅
This was a good one
Have you ever compared "The Untamed" with its animated counterpart, "Mo Dao Zu Shi"?
No I’ve never seen that. Would you recommend it?
@@SaceStation Yes. It's also started off as a Chinese novel series with the same title as its donghua counterpart.
@@SaceStation And a webcomic.
People always want a live action adaptation to follow the original animation to a T. If that's the case, just rewatch the original. One thing you have to understand is that animation has tons of time to develop characters and story. Live action on the other hand has real life people with real lives. People get older and God forbid a tradegy can take place. I actually just watched the animation for the 1st when Netflix aired the show. I wanted to watch the OG series to compare it to this. In all honesty I liked it. People say the Neflix version seemed rushed, but the animation compared to Japanese anime felt rushed to me. A problem would occur and be solved all in one episode. The changes that they made were not that bad. For instance the whole thing about Sokka not being sexist. Instead of him being sexist, they made him really cocky then he got humbled. Similar to the animation. If you reqlly want to talk about bad live action adaptaion, compare any live action to the Dragonball adaptation and you'll see BAD really is.
I think the main issue is not that there’s tragedy. It’s more so that the characters don’t feel relatable or likeable really. There’s barely nuance in the writing for the show and yet it presents itself as “more mature” when it’s just a watered down version of the real story
@@towwzz8560 When I watch live action vs animation, I always keep an open mind that animation easily makes you fall in love with the characters. Animation has the upper hand when it comes to facial expressions, development of the characters, and don't forget the music in the background. Real people can't pull off those quirky looks without looking weird.
One thing I find funny is that when a live action adaptation actually makes a character the same as the animation, people say it was to cartoonish and not realistic; and when the characters are realistic, it's not true to the animation. 🤷♂️
Did you watch the One Piece Live action? If so, how do you rate that one? I feel Avatar used the same type of formula, and to me I enjoyed it.
I am certainly not one of those people who think that "Avatar has been ruined". The fact that the original series exists means that it's legacy will remain intact. Funny thing about that though it does beg the question. . . . . why even make a remake at all. If the original series is superior in every way then why create a derivative form of it?
There are worlds of difference between adaptation and remakes. Kubrick ADAPTED "The Shining" from the novel. Denis Villeneuve ADAPTED Dune in the same way. The difference? They understood the source material and turned them into their vision. They made the core concepts their own.
The Netflix series is not that. There is no creative vision for what they are trying to do with the source material. It is a cynical nostalgia cash grab; full stop. There isn't any creative spark behind this remake in any way.
Perhaps the only good thing that will come out of this is at least people are talking about the property again. Even something like the Netflix series can open up opportunities for new stories in the Avatar world (which should have been the focus in the first place).
Thankfully for future generations the original animated series will persist and no amount of studio meddling will be able to tarnish it's greatness. I mean, if you had to choose one series to introduce a newcomer to this story which would you choose? Isn't that the real question?
@@averbalin Did you watch the One Piece live action? If so, do you feel the same way?
@wesman6445 sorry didn't watch One Piece animated or live action.
Hey I agree with you 100%. I think you could have included more examples to make support your arguments and make us go '' wooo, true. They changed this and this and this... and not for the better ''
I appreciate the feedback. There’s definitely more I wanted to say that I didn’t get to put in the video. Maybe in the future I’ll elaborate more on it.
I would say they made avatar realistic. Realistically, people are dumb, stupid and without any consistency. So in that sense it was ok.
That’s a good way to rationalize it😅
I don't accept the excuse of "people are dumb, so it's fine if the writing sucks".
Nobody actually wants a scene written like actual people talking. If it was realistic then people would be constantly going off-topic, correcting themselves, talking over eachother and mixing up words... have you ever had a conversation that went nowhere and you're just like "Shit, I forgot to bring up the thing"? That's super common! And it'd make for such a shitty script, lol!
@@dracocrusher Unfortunately that is what script writers are going for now-a-days in a limited sense.
Do they bring up the Avatar cycle in the remake? I watched it once and I'm good on watching it again. We see the statues in Zuko's room at the beginning but the Avatar room was how we found out about the cycle so do they still talk about it? Or do we just have exposition gran gran talk about the elements and the episode one kyoshi voiceover? In the original, I always assumed that the avatar cycle was how we were going to see the Avatars too, but in reverse, with the last Avatar before the current one being the one we see first because the Avatar would have the closest attachment to the one who just died. Air for Aang at the beginning of the show then Fire Earth Water....and Air for Yangchen at the end. In the adaptation, we seem to just jump around to whatever Avatar is a good cameo in the moment. Water Tribe? Water Avatar. Kyoshi Island? Earth Avatar. Air temple? Gotta have that big Air Avatar statue. What about Fire? Ummmmm.......here seems good. 0.o I was actually okay with the adaptation......until after we get to the present day. Then there is so much exposition at one point I hated gran gran being onscreen because all she did was talk and talk and talk...... *facepalms* and she made me hate the idea of exposition for the whole show which is bad because there's a lot of it. While the M. Knight version makes me legit fall asleep within ten minutes (seriously, I had a hard time falling asleep late night but all I had to do was play the movie and I was out for the count), this version makes me just bored enough to check my phone on the time halfway through the season without the benefit of at least being a good knockout pill. The first ten minutes had me hyped because it was different than the original and explored more of the prewar era. Loved it. As soon as they started trying to "fix" anything once we got to present day, however, it lost me. The first hiccup was gran gran, the first true casualty was Katara for me. Her bending the water that high up in the air without any true build up to her being able to besides floating that ball of water good for a few seconds earlier was just a slap in the face for me and gave me Captain Marvel vibes. Bumi too.....why Bumi why?
100% agree all
beautifully filmed piece of garbage.
audiences have really been pushed to enjoying trash...how did they screw this up when the cartoon makes it so easy to adapt, they adapted the hardest parts like CGI and character desgin okay but then fked up on everything else that shouldve been a slam dunk. def not watching season 2
and also as an Arawak actor (half my mum is trini Arawak) I find it so funny that somehow Ian was able to lie about something like that in today's climate.
I disagree that it as easy as you say. The original show was written and scoped with animation as a medium in mind from its inception. Translating this into live action just doesn't work in my opinion and seeing that the score board is now 0-2 I think I am right. Animation and live action are different mediums with their own unique sets of strengths and trade offs when it comes to story telling. Simply translating scenes from the show wouldn't look good in live action. Animation has several advantages over live action when it comes to the type of world Avatar is. 2 specifically that I would point out is It makes physically impossible things look cohesive frame by frame in the overall composition of shots because animation doesn't have to comply with reality to look cohesive. Bending was never going to look good in live action because making physically impossible things happen in live action in a way that it tricks the human brain enough into thinking its real as it happens on screen is really hard and really expensive. This is why the use CG and green screen in this netflix show looks like star wars episode 2 sometimes.
The second advantage animation has over live action is its ability to make characters more expressive than live action. Live Actors are always going to be less expressive than animated ones. It's not considered "cool" for live actors to over emote or exaggerate facial expressions especially in western cinema. The animated show was able to breathe so much life into its character because of the medium it was created in. Live action did everything it could to suck the color, life and expressiveness of the avatar world and its character.
There is a third advantage I would like to point out also, the ability to make grotesque or uncomfortable looking things more palatable for the audience to view vs live action. Zuko's scar is a perfect example. Zukos scar was heavily toned down in the netflix version compared to animated one which soften the impact of his most defining physical trait. The reason for this choice is of course to do a 1:1 translation of Zukos scar in live action would one make it too unpalatable for viewers to look at for an entire series.
I personally dont understand why in the age of anime consumption by the mainstream, and the general success and acclaim of companies like studio ghible, pixar, and dream works, and disney that animation is still looked so down upon. What do people actually think Live action would do to improve upon Avatar in terms of aesthetics, acting, story telling, and writing? Because both attempts failed to improve anything over the original to me. And if its not improving anything what was the point in spending the time money and resources to create this in the first place when in this all digital age the original series is available in perpetuity?
@@MrIndiemusic101yes. I’m glad someone understands that animations are more flexible than live action. I really feel like there’s too much complaining. If you grade the show on its own without comparing it to the original animated serious, it does fine overall. In my opinion I enjoyed it
I'd say the Sonic the Hedgehog movies were better adaptations than The Last of Us.
The Last of Us was always kind of 'award bait' to me.
It's got an interesting premise with a real-world parallel turned into a world-ending threat.
But other than that. It's just another zombie story. It does have some really cool concepts (Joel being selfish in the end and everything with the fungal infection).
But Dead Space (just the first Dead Space) is a far better zombie story.
Cyberpunk edgerunners >>> sonic the hedgehog movies
@@everrunic8375 If you say so.
Thank you being so kind help me and these people to better understand you God Amen
If we would consider who is Neil Druckmann today (or several years ago), the fact that he wouldn't like HBO adaptation of "Last of us" - might be good point for the show.
Great eassay, well spoken
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I can’t say anything for TLOU, but I can say that the live action adaptation of One Piece and the Lord of the Rings is the right way to do adaptations. Each member of the cast loved the series, they carried copies of the series around with them, the actors immersed themselves into the characters, the sets were real, the sets were real, cgi was minimal, and the wanted to do the source material justice. The changes were inevitable, but what was cut and kept, the alterations, were all from a respectful mindset.
Avatar with minimal CGI is probably quite different to other shows. Bending necessitates CGI: The bending form that needs it the least is firebending. Airbending would not be visible and waterbending, forget it. Earthbending is kinda in the middle. The hybrid creatures could maybe be practical effects, but their movement remains an issue.
@@Bolpat And this is the reason why ATLA cant ever be implemented in live action unless we can either make reall bending or have CGI tht looks 100% real.
The animation will aways be superior.
This is a general rule for every animation whit magic really.
It’s a poorly done any % speedrun.
11:50 I hope you’ll talk about the Percy Jackson remake
I wouldn’t say I’m qualified to talk about it from a story perspective, but I may touch on other things about it. Stay tuned👌
@@SaceStation ok (:
the whole time aang looks like he is wearing a bald helmet or something
I didn't like it, but "not even recognizable as Avatar anymore"??? No. It is very recognizably Avatar. It's got bending and Avatar Aang (and they pronounce his name in the American way, unlike the movie), so how could it be confused as anything else? No True Scotsman" aside, of course.
Well, clearly it’s “avatar” in that it’s the same characters within the same world. But in terms of the reasons why I like that world, meaning the narrative and the character development, it shares very little with the original.
As someone who gets the "a" mispronounced in their Mandarin name, I thought the name change in the movie was a nice detail.
@@ThePrincessCH All I can tell you is that many people were downright upset with that change. I don't mind it myself and recognize that the movie pronunciation is closer to what one would expect in most Asian languages, but the pronunciation in the original (an American show) was very Americanized.
@@Pandaemoni "Elena of Avalor" is an American show too, but they did try to make the Spanish words sound Spanish.
The cast it also terrible
They didn’t do great, but I cut them a little slack because they’re young and inexperienced. Really I think they lacked the guidance to perform at their best, and the script did them no favors.
The cast is actually fine.
Some have shown they can be great actors in other plays.
The issue was the poor script and direction.
Good actors can only get so far with a poor script and no director, especially with children...
@@etienne8110 HAHAHA
2:46 Liar
Wow, 3 seconds in and I’m already highly suspicious of your angle…
Then I hope you watched the rest 😅
Mai being made kinda overweight was pretty fitting for the era Americans are in culturally
Russian bot.
Yes comrade
Making Roku funny is actually a good change though
That's your opinion. I felt the scenes with him were like something from an SNL comedy sketch because of the acting, direction and CGI.
He wasn't funny tho. And live action Roku wasn't even the same guy as in the animated. Heck, even cartoon Roku looked more imposing than live action Roku.
No that's disgusting! Roku being more disciplined and serious with his sage aura spoke volumes of his character arc kinda like oogwey in kung fu panda but if you make him a comedian you set his character arcs and communication with aang as mentor and student very silly, ruining his original backstory with Sozin which begins the actual f'n war very problematic to take seriously in building up to the end of the series.
Remember Aang didn't only defeat Ozai to save the world but to also redeem the name of the Avatar and the shortcomings of Roku
@@davidtakyi14 “That’s disgusting” ok bro it ain’t that deep
@@RussianFederation.gov. Sorry about that bro, just really hate live action remakes
Man. Audiences are brutal.
I may have gone over the top in a few places😅
@@SaceStationnope not enough man, you treat this nice more than it deserved.
Dude most complainers here don't know how hard to do martial arts, wushu, tae kwan do..etc etc. most complainants were cola and chips eaters in their couches. This Netflix is better because most of them were Asians with martial arts backgrounds.
js cuz doing martial arts is hard, it don't mean they have to mess up everything else.
Woulda been boring if they just kept the same order of events and didnt show us new ideas, kinda nitpickey review my guy. I've been watching the original since it came out and this show was not bad at all. The dialogue is mainly exposition yeah, but it's 8 episodes, they literally dont have time for much else, theres a lot of ground to cover and a lot to explain. Its not perfect, but likening it to the Shamylan movie is goofy.
If there’s no time and too much to cover, then why try adapting it at all? If you can’t do it properly don’t do it. I know some people like it but I personally can’t get behind it.
@@SaceStation I mean that's fair, I just think it's getting too much hate for not being the exact same as the original. It's just a new way for people to experience the show, and probably go on to watch the original afterwards. Also, in TV show production, the first season is never as long as the rest for funding reasons, so I think they could do a lot better with pacing and free screen time for season 2. Don't count it out yet bro, I feel like they've got something cooking.
I can't express how strongly I disagree. This review hits the nail on the head for me. Though it is better than the shamylan one.
There was a tonnne of time to do things that they used in weird ways.
@@VonBlanproductions put yourself in the shoes of someone who's never seen the original show and it starts to make more sense. There's a lot to explain and a lot of small details that didn't get filled in by the original show, since things were a bit more cryptic. Overall though, I feel like 8 episodes just isn't enough to get everything, give em 10 a season and they can probably devote a lot more time to the smaller stuff. They'll probably get a bit more time next season, since this was mostly a successful show. Hopefully the mixed reception gives them enough to work with to improve things.
if it cost to much to make it don't make it why did they fight without bending because it safes money
What hurt me the most is that the OMASHU story was turned from a man and woman............tuh make it some opportunity to integrate LGBTQWHATEVERELSE lifestyle😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
well it has been nearly 20 years since the original. Things change and it doesn't change the storyline
You guys never learn don't you. The live action isn't about every details copied from a cartoon to a real life version. It's based on as a whole. Typical humans.
No, that's the whole point here. They could have changed ton of details while still basing it on the original as a whole.
They went the opposite direction; they kept a bunch of frivolous details while changing fundamentals so much that those details don't even make sense.
@@DaveyKanabus well that's your point of view. I just appreciated the live adaptation and i enjoyed it that's all that matters. Just treat it as a new series not basing on anything. No big deal , not making things complicated and just enjoy the show.
@@rawrandom5516 How can you treat it as a new series when its based on something.
Also what hapends when you whatch this "new series" and then go and see the old one and find its better. Wont that make the Netflix one worse in your opinion, which will just put you in the group of people who compare the 2 and find one way too inferiour.
When you remove literally character arcs of the main characters, it's not a "change" anymore, it's bad writing
@@rawrandom5516TBF as its own identity it was still not ‘good’. Mediocre on average. The first episode highlighted the bad script work best, with its repetitive dialogue and exposition. The usage of hour long episodes also limited the ability for creative and stable plots in later episodes, now resulting in A & B plots sometimes with a C plot that overall weakened the focus of impact for the audience. The CGI along with camera positioning also severely weakened the power that bending held within the scenes, often leading to attacks that felt uncharacteristically weak for how serious it was taken (ie sozin comet firebending and almost all waterbending that didn’t include ice).
Why everyone is hard to please nowadays?
Because Avatar is very important to me. I feel it should be treated with more respect than this. But if you liked it that’s ok, I just prefer the original.
its a good thing to have standards.
Maybe because mediocrity shouldn't be upheld
There is no way to make everyone happy. I loved it. With they added a few things but i’ll say it again. The actors will age up too fast to make the show exactly like the cartoon. Because it’s a cartoon not an Anime (not that anyone here said that) just a lot of people get that twisted. If they get 3 seasons which is what i believe i’ve seen then they have to change the story to make sense. Now by the end i may be pissed at the direction it went. Katara just being a master (yes silly) but she is a prodigy. Showing her learning woulda been at least half the episode. Just not enough time before the kids age up. So, when i consider this I can’t say it’s mediocrity. I also wish it was almost exactly like the cartoon. But for live action it’s not possible. Just cause of child acting laws alone. I believe it’s 5 hours on set a day for up to 14 years old. What I’m getting at is when i include all these hurdles to making a live action i can’t say it’s mediocre. But , it’s an opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs.
@@breakinzero9817 "making everyone happy" is just the dumbest goal, it means you're making sure everything appeals to the lowest common denominator. Its literally why the show sucks.
Nah they did amazing.
NAH THEY DIDN'T it SUCKS
It was not amazing at all. Pretty much everyone other than zuko and iroh were ruined. Ozai wasn't scary at all and was too compationate to his kids. Azula was too soft and didn't actually have a scary arua which is her character.
@@nowyouseeme5926 People are alwayyyys going to have something to say. People are always not going to like something. It Is what it is. You're free to watch the animated series or anything else you love.
If you think it’s good you haven’t seen the original show in a long time bro
@@kobbsy7441 I don't expect it to be the original show. Because it's not.
While i agree with you on some points you lost me when you brought up the last of us. Loved the game , loved the story, the show added stuff that was in my opinion worse than white washing. A lot of people said they went woke when they really turned a relationship that was hinted at in the game into a couple of men turning gay and falling in love. Nothing wrong with that i just didn’t see the point. I would of rather found out more important information. Seemed like they were definitely trying to appeal to an audience but maybe it just made me feel like that. Live adaptations are not easy. Most piss a lot of fans off. But the point isnt to only please the fans. Its also to bring the world to a new audience. These kids are gonna age up and out very fast. So you HAVE To speed up the plot. Otherwise you have to change characters which can be done like in the house of dragons but its horrible to get close to a character and literally change them. To compare the last live action to this one is not a good comparison. There is bad writing and terrible writing like the first live action. This series is vastly popular and since you dislike it so much im assuming you will no longer watch and i won’t come across another one of these videos when season 2 is out. At that point you would only be watching to be a hater if you really dislike the show so much. And there is also nothing wrong with that. Just seems pretty sad.
Hence why I said “not all changes they made were great” when talking about the last of us. Also, if you don’t like woke stuff, how did you feel about all the girl boss propaganda in the Netflix Avatar? Or do you only dislike “woke” things with regards to gay relationships? Either way, you make some good points, and I would never say you hating woke stuff “just seems kinda sad.” I don’t like woke stuff either. I respect your opinion, so please respect mine. I wanted to love this show, but as a fan of the original I had too many issues with it. I appreciate your feedback and I thank you for watching 👌
@@SaceStation I don’t care for the woke stuff because it’s ruining good movies. But it’s when it seems so forced that its just off putting. Look at the marvel movies that pushed the female leads or the ghostbusters when they went all to females. Such great actors. And such a bad script. I respect your opinion on the new avatar and i dont entirely disagree with you. I just can’t say this new live action avatar is even close to as bad as the live action movie where they didnt even pronounce the names right!🤣.
I agree with you 100%. We need to focus on good stories and characters more so than messaging.
@@breakinzero9817 saying females is so gross and what do you understand as woke because y'all throw that word around when you don't know what it means. What is ruining movies you love is mostly corporate interference and also terrible scripts, not wokeness whatever you think it is
@@jackieroberts2625 First I don’t understand why a Fact is gross. The Ghostbusters team was changed to all Females. Female actors cause apparently its insulting to say actress for reasons i understand but think are silly on a level. All those female actors are also comedians which are all hilarious in my opinion and have all made amazing and funny movies. But during the Me Too movement and wanting more women in the acting world they decided to go in that direction. And the movie was a total flop. Now woke used to stand for being aware of racial discrimination and prejudice towards any lgbtq i have honestly lost count of how many letters and genders they claim and its not my place to know. Now wokeness has turned into an activist stance. Where if we dont include a woman lead or whatever the headlines are pushing they can not make the movie. Even the academy awards now have this
The first, Standard A, which has come under fire from conservatives, can be met in one of three ways: 1) Either one lead or significant supporting character is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group; 2) at least 30% of the acting ensemble is from at least two underrepresented groups (women, the LGBTQ community ... and it goes on. Look it up and read for yourself. THIS is what is wrong with movies. The movie industry IS allowed to discriminate. But not how you think. Let’s say the lead role is for a blonde haired, blue-eyed, white woman, and a certain shape maybe skinny maybe overweight. That is who they are going to look for they are not going to look for somebody from another race or ethnicity because they are looking for a certain type of person. This is allowed and legal, now what they are saying is to even win an Academy award. You have to follow these guidelines, which being a musician myself it takes away creativity and free speech so yes what wokeness has turned into, unfortunately, is destroying a lot of movies, which would probably be great if they weren’t forced to follow these guidelines. So yes, I do understand what woke means. Originally it was a good thing, but it has been weaponized and used to create a lot of horrible things. The movie industry is a prime example of what happens when you do this. The movies fail because they are horrible. And what do you expect when you worry about hurting peoples feelings. If you don’t like it Don’t watch it. Im not saying you more to everyone complaining about underrepresentation in movies. These are facts.
Yall are seriously hating on this for no reason literally barely anything was changed from the original series 💀
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You really got on the internet and lied like this? 😭🤣
Barely? Rewatch the show, I did. Then I realised how shit the live action is
Ok, fire citizen. We know you only had access to the ember isles play, so we ll give you a pass this time.😅
You are either blind, deaf or both. Aang is different, Sokka is different, Katara is different, Azula is different, King Bumi is different, changes to the freedom fighters, changes to Roku, changes to Suki, no Sozin's comet, Aang didn't learn water bending, changes to Koh the face stealer. The list goes on. I don't mind changes if they can improve upon what is already there, but the changes took to much away from what we know and love from the original.