Top 10 WORST Changes in Avatar: TLA
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- A top 10 ranking of the worst changes made in Netflix's Live action Avatar the Last Airbender adaptation. A young boy known as the Avatar must master the four elemental powers to save a world at war and fight a ruthless enemy bent on stopping him.
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What they did to Bumi actually pissed me off
Turning Bumi into the man yelling at Aang in the storm episode was such a bad decision. I don’t care who you are. To tell me Bumi would EVER say that to Aang in anger is insane. Bumi is more laid back than an ironing board despite his crazy antics.
Ep4 was where I quit. The needless hostility from Bumi to Aang and the Earthbender captain to Iroh was where I understood that this show didn't just misunderstand the original and its characters, but was outright spitting on them.
I have a hard time seeing this Bumi as part of the White Lotus
@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 "Should I ask Aang where he has been for a 100 years? Should I consider that he still looks young because he has been through something strange and complicated? nah I'll just guilt trip him instead" - NATLA Bumi
Actually, actually, I do like the whole earth bender captain Dialogue with Iroh I thought it was the best part of the episode, but I totally agree With your take on Bumi.
Making kyoshi the main avatar in the live action instead of roku was really outraegous
Roku being the main avatar guide to aang made the main conflict so much more engaging because he himself was part of the fire nation and had ties to the royal family , and his actions led to the 100 years War in the first place
So his past mistakes served as wisdom for him to guide aang through the right path to fix his mistakes and end the War
But with kyoshi , the "perfect" avatar , having more screentime and influence over aang , the avatar as a character feels so much more detached from the fire nation conflict , i love kyoshi but she had no business having this much influence on aang when roku , his direct predecessor was right there
I think it has to do with time constraints. They wanted to show Kyoshi because of fan interest, but they couldn't cram 2 avatars into the limited time they had. For some reason they decided to cut Roku instead on Kyoshi. Super weird given the reasons you already mentioned. It would be cool to see more about Kyoshi but it can't be at the expense of a far more relevant character.
But half of that is knowledge from later seasons. We don't know Roku had ties to the royal family in season 1, and we don't know about his connection to Sozin yet (who btw is responsible for the 100 years war, not Roku). I think using Kyoshi in the first season is not a bad idea if they want to show a few more previous Avatars, because they always have time to expand on Roku in the second or third season, when his story is actually told in greater detail and also becomes more relevant to the story.
His main role in the first season was to warn Aang from the comet so that from then on Aang would be under pressure to learn bending the elements as fast es possible. They couldn't introduce that time limit due to the actors aging, but as a result it wasn't possible for Roku to address the comet and warn Aang about it. They can still do it for s2 or s3, now that both are greenlit and they can film it back-to-back.
@@Lothiril the 100 year war is roku fault because as he said himself he knew what sozin was and what he wanted but he was too weak and spared him because there friendship. And roku being the mentor to aang from s1 makes more sense because the audience gets used ro seeing him to help aang, whenever aang is in trouble roku helps him, when aang needs knowledge roku helps him, when aang needs learn fire bending roku forces the fire teacher to help him, it puts in the audience mind that he is an avatar that is very interested in aang succeeding and as the story goes on we learn that the reason roku is so interested in aang succeeding is because he blames himself for the state the world in and wants aang ro fix it which he eventuallyapologized to aang for in the comics and accepts that he has his own ways of fixing problems. But kyoshi has no real connection to the current state of the world she is just an avatar from long ago basically serves as exposition since her presence doesn't really add anything more for the future of the series, the time they gave to kyoshi should have been used to develop roku especially because the series is so damn rushed like it needed 4 more episodes. Fun fact in book 1 water aang uses water bending 0 times
Even in the intro it was Kyoshi who was displayed using the four elements, they've done really because she's far more popular. Doesn't help that the scene was unbelievable too (bad cgi).
Also i hate how kyoshi can just go to the real world like that.
Even avatar roku only can able to lend aang his power. Not go to real life. It's still aang but with roku power.
And also, the time is short. Roku just help aang to go outside the temple. In real time, that probably took roku like.. 3 minutes maybe.
Unlike kyoshi in netflix that be like.. maybe 20 minutes in real life. In flesh like kyoshi truly took over aang's body. Not spirit.
Katara suddenly became a water bending master in 5 minutes is stupid.
She sorta did in the original as well. But it's even worse here
@@TANMAN84atleast we saw the slow improvement here it is SO quick.
@@malikpierre-louis3343 But I mean even when I watched the original, I was like okay, being called a master is a pretty substantial title, that's why these people are so powerful and hard to find. The original did it MUCH BETTER, but even the way they did it was far from perfect and can be criticized as well, especially because the original often showed that Katara wasn't a good water bender. It should be noted that the Netflix one completely took out either Aang or Katara practicing, which completely degrades the overarching them of the season "Book One: Water"
@@TANMAN84 fair enought also yeah having Aang not watebend in this season is gonna be a real problem for season 2 espacially if it also only has 8 episodes.
The fact that She’s the one that stopped Zuko’s blast in the first episode is absolutely ridiculous.
I love Katara. She’s one of the best characters in the Avatar universe and one of the strongest female characters that’s ever been written for tv. And what they did to my girl in this lame ass live action is absolutely unforgivable.
Book one is literally called Water...and he didn't learn any water bending in it.
Saying it was weird to do that is an understatement.
Ok so I thought it was just me when do we see him actually learn water bending in s1
@@stephenhobbs5883 he didn't lol thats what make the live action so mid
@@mob4430 it really does they took too much away I could understand a few things being different it is live action but too much and the woke BS they tried to slide by us changing oma & shu to gay female lovers. What's even crazier is that in live action it still says she died in the war tween villages except women didn't fight in war so the fact her female lover died collapsed in on its self as part of the story
Sorry, it's been a long time, but I don't recall him learning water bending in the animated series either... Am I just not remembering?
@@Kiltedbear Yes, you are just not remembering, he learns water bending about halfway in the season
The writers of the adaptation don't want their "good" characters to have any flaws. They actively removed all flaws from all members of team Avatar.
Aang is no longer immature, or responsable from running away. He also never had to lie to his friends because he was afraid to lose them like in the episode "Bato of the watertribe".
Katara is no longer bossy, or jealous of Aang learning faster than her. She didn't have to steal the scroll or didn't have to shut her mouth and swallow her pride to have Pakku teach waterbending to Aang.
Sokka is no longer immature, sexist, insecure of himself and a bad fighter.
Zuko does no longer have any anger issues to overcome, and doesn't have "the ends justify the means" mentality he has in the animated show.
Yep. Welcome to 2024 where everyone on screen must be perfect
I was agreeing with you up until Zuko. Wym the Netflix Zuko doesn’t have anger issues to overcome? The new avatar is flawed, but they at least let Zuko remain troubled and angsty.
It's kinda F-ed up that modern writers insist on having every hero be flawless while having every villian be sympathetic and redeemable.
Nah,you lost me at Zuko dawg
Zuko is the only best thing in this series in terms of character and arc, even uncle Iroh was kinda out of character. Also hated how Zhao was more of a sneaky back stabbing bastard than a straight up complete a-hole in your face.
Katara was straight up character assassinated. She went from being assertive, opinionated, and fiery to this bland, passive, going along for the ride character. She seems to have no interest in anything that’s happening. She barely stands up for herself or the injustices around her. Not nearly as much as the original did.
Edit: to be clear none of this is hate towards the actress. I think she did a fine job with the writing and direction she was given. It was just really bad writing and direction.
Exactly, she needs to have some attitude, while also being kind and caring. The OG Katara is a complex and layered character; she's hopeful and inspiring, but has her flaws (e.g. she stole the scroll and got jealous when Aang picked up waterbending faster than her) while this Katara feels like a Mary Sue NPC.
It's also weird how they made Sokka the more mature sibling now; I was really annoyed when he told Katara that she needed to grow up. It was the other way around in the original series, where he said Katara took on a lot of responsibility when they lost their mother, and that he only sees her face when he tries to remember their mother.
Her acting like a mother of the group is also the reason why she got into arguments with Toph. The absence of Katara's core character traits means that the Netflix adaptation is probably not going to show any conflict between the girls, which also means that we won't get to see them bond after they resolve it and learn to understand each other better.
@@Fr0zenPeanut the worst part is I feel like they think they’re being feminist with these changes. Especially by having Katara master waterbending all on her own and when she declares that she’s her own master. But robbing the female lead of everything that made her interesting in the original is probably the least feminist thing they could’ve done.
This was by far the worst change imo, surprised the video didn't mention it
@@theWn123 This is a trend with a lot of female characters in a lot of media nowadays, especially in remakes. They're trying to look at the story through a distorted lens of feminism which ends up making these female characters feel incredibly hollow, especially when compared to their original counterparts. This is part of the reason why I think we should just boycott remakes at this point. I still haven't seen one that I loved even as much as the originals.
Now we know why the original creator leave this project......good for them for realising that
I'd say one fault you haven't really touched on is the fact the trio doesn't feel like a group of friends, like in the animated series with much of the goofiness missing
Katara said in episode 3 of the original series they were a family and by the end of season 1, they genuinely felt like one.
In the revival, they feel like coworkers instead of a ride or die family.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 There's only one scene which gave me the animated show's goofy vibes, and it was the "says the guy with the melon head" line. I was like "YES! Finally a scene that-" and then the show ended💀
Netflix really gave us Bavatar The Last Wind Affecter
Same with momo and Appa. Legit forgot about them in the series because they hardly show up and their only interactions are usually just riding appa. Even during a scene of aang suppose to be talking to appa he’s instead looking at the camera and talking to the audience not even facing appa.
If they didn’t include the secret tunnel or June (and didn’t have to animate the badger moles and shirshu) then they could of added more interacting scenes with appa and momo.
@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343”coworkers” HAHAHAHA THATS SO ACCURATE
When Zuko reacted to his portrayal in the Ember Island players episode he said “They made my character look stiff and humorless.” In the Netflix remake it seems they made everyone look stiff and humorless.
The ember island players was a way more accurate representation than this live action 💀
"HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?!"
But the effects were decent
And after Zuko said that at the play team Avatar looked at him 🤨 and he conceded "oh" bc he was behaving that way before joining them. It was a nice moment showing his developing self awareness.
for reals they should retitle the series into 'netflix island players'
Idk but removing the story of katara’s necklace really ticked me. Like that necklace is what made Pakku realize that the Northern tribe’s sexist views on men and women are outdated. It also cost him a wife. Instead he is like “oh my students love katara fine I will budge”.
Yes! I was really disappointed that they destroyed the history of Master Pakku. He didn't relent because Katara did well in their battle, he relented because of that and the necklace which brought back painful memories. By making him more of an NPC in the live action, it reinforces my fear that the White Lotus society got the axe.
Exactly!
@@Aetheroth - There was a bit of a nod to the White Lotus when Uncle Iroh picks up one of the White lotus pieces during one of the scenes (I can't remember which episode) with Zuko in a marketplace. Iroh sort of hints to Zuko that there's more to the game, with information-sharing (i.e. White lotus).
I'd hope we'd see more if it in the future, or that was the only nod we were going to get of them...
katara vs pakku live action bland and boring cartoons Avatar and the last Airbender is still the best
@@jkvmaibebe3680Yeah, the OG fight was when Waterbending became actually badass. Before that, the only really impressive waterbending was done by Aang in the Avatar State. But then you see the shit Katara and Pakku pull against each other and you're like "Oh shit. This is fucking cool!"
It pisses me off that the one major thing we get to see of Hakoda is him being critical of Sokka. Sure it's just a small memory of him talking to someone in private, but when it's the one major thing we are shown we're naturally led to believe this is his true idea of his son.
One of my favorite things about Hakoda is how he stands in stark contrast to Ozai as a father. Zuko has to beg to be let into a war meeting, and speaking out of turn in it gets him burned and banished with a task thought to be impossible just so Ozai can get him off his hair. When Sokka appears unexpectedly at the water tribe camp, people welcome him and notice how much he's grown, they lead him to his father's war meeting, and Hakoda himself stops EVERYTHING to stand up and embrace his son. Even when Sokka was a small kid Hakoda trusted him and told him what a man should be, entrusting him with protecting his tribe while also understanding he's just a child and should not be burdened more than he already is, and now that he's grown and experienced the world Hakoda sees him as the brave and capable warrior he has become, treating him like the rest of his men.
He never saw his son as a failure or a disappointment, even in passing or as a joke. He knew his children both had strong spirits and incredible potential that he had to protect by keeping the fire nation away from their shores.
Finally! Someone who agrees that Ozai is not meant to be humanized or sympathetic. Someone with some sense and understanding of his character.
Literally. Ozai is a fucking monster and even if you take that out of consideration, he’s still someone who scorched his son’s face and banished him from home as a child.
Why the fuck would you want to humanize that?
Understanding a villain doesn’t mean you have to sympathize with them. Ozai in the original is the type of villain literally anybody with basic writing skills can make. Just because you're a monster does not mean you have to be a blank slate.
Seriously, you really ruin just how awful he is by humanizing him, showing him too much. And making us think he actually felt bad for Zuko? Why the hell does nobody in this show have to be flawed. Or, more flawed. I hate it. It just doesn't make sense
The whole point of not even seeing him until season 2 was to build up his reveal. (But we already know they don't do reveals) Like the airbende being dead, or aang being the avatar, or realizing right away that it's Bumi. Or m basically anything. They don't know how to build anything up meaningfully.
Nope, I like how he isn't this one dimensional cartoonish villain anymore. Makes him far more compelling as a character. Also, the fact that he isn't a straight up monster anymore makes Aang's moral dilemma about not wanting to kill him far more understandable.
@@crystalclear7512 Nothing wrong with a villain who is evil for the sake of evil. What made Ozai compelling in the original is that he was complete monster. It made him much more of an imposing threat. The fact that he was pure evil show how ingrained Aang's pacifism is.
Bumi is white lotus member, so he should be a wiseman and teach avatar some values
Also why Iroh being captured in Omashu doesn't really work. Bumi doesn't even interact with him.
@@akechijubeimitsuhide I genuienly thought we were going to get a quick scene of Bumi talking to Iroh and possibly redirecting his little caravan down a path where Iroh could escape the easiest.
Did we not watch the same scene? His entire interaction with Aang was trying to teach him values. Bumi was trying to speed run him into growing up and accepting responsibility because this war forces you to make impossible decisions, and Aang is still running from that reality. And he did it through a series of tests, exactly like in the cartoon. I really don’t get some of these complaints.
@@andydietrich3689 He is a sad, near senile old man bullying a 12 year old into having the same depressing mindset as him. Not the same.
And the tests in the OG were more just to have fun And bond a little with Aang before he had to move on.
@@andydietrich3689Because THIS is just a bitter angry old man demanding Aang kill him to "prove a point" about life being unfair because he's throwing a tantrum over Aang accidentally getting frozen in ice. As opposed to the much more interesting "Have him undergo a series of tests to teach him lateral thinking, as that will be important later".
Love tunnel is only included because people like the SECRET TUNELLLLLLL
Through the mountain
Not to mention Sokka's:
O
MA
*SHU*
Which could have been fun in season 2 without bloating season 1. It was all just memberberries for people who had seen the show. But pointless
I will not lie, hearing that song really hyped me up.
The rest of the episode is dumb.
It’s still a season 2 scene. Are they making season 2?
Wouldnt be surprized if Toph isnt blind and leaves her home with her parents blessing (edit to say thanks for the 1K likes, it's never happened before! Thank you!)
I feel like they're either going to make her angst over being blind, or they'll completely remove all of the limitations being blind gave her.
Dude of course she’s gonna be blind stop complaining this is literally by the people who made the show so they can change the story however they want why would you want a new show that’s exactly like the old one it’s like you want it to be boring 🤦🏾♂️
@@jaydenjenkins8090Hate to break it to you, but the original creators walked out of making this show because they HATED how they were doing it. There's no original creators in the production anymore.
@@genericname2747Or she's going to be CURED of her blindness.
@@magnatemagic7391Exactly!
Heck they made Aang less childlike despite being a KID.
Younger than the rest of the Gaang, just frozen.
Oh and cutting out the joyriding and just be all "Gotta learn waterbending to beat the firelord, cause I WANT to do my job"
If that was the case they should have made him STAY at the temple, fighting off the firebenders.
Show an alternative timeline, where he saves his Air master some of his people while in the avatar state.
It felt really weird that they left out a bunch of things from book 1 and at the same time adapted stuff from book 2. Like... 8 episodes is not enough even for book 1 and they bring more stuff anyway
Right they don’t even got alot of time and they add stuff from season 2
because they want to make it 1 hr. if anything they should just copy the many episodes but small time.
This universe is not a story you can tell in a short episode arc.
It didn’t work with Korra and it sure as hell doesn’t work for this show.
Also remember, there's only about a 20/30 minute difference between the live action, and the animation. So about one episode. They had all but one episode of time to work with. And the filled it with crap that didn't matter. It felts SO bloated. And a lot of it felt pointless somehow.
everything is rushed and squeezed in with dumb details like mother of faces and fog of lost souls... wtf
Like you said there is no consitancy with the skill levels of benders. Zuko was able to get the upper hand on Ozai and only lost because he hesitated, then Katara is somehow able to best Zuko by the end of the season despite never waterbending before aang. The show made a lot more sense where Zuko was a major threat because of his age and skill and Katara learned waterbending gradually over time. Aang not waterbending once makes no sense.
ozai wasn’t really trying you can see that he fights a lot of the battle with his hands behind his back
@@darao.4907🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@darao.4907that doesn’t make it any better. Ozai shouldn’t need to go all out to beat young Zuko. Remember in the original series Aang easily beat 2 fire bender soldiers with both his hands tied behind his back. That’s the power of a master. A firelord like Ozai should beat Zuko no matter what. The skill gap should be that big
I stopped ready after "in the original series" this isn't the original series
@@KaypainBeats ?? Tf you talking bout
When they revealed Aang being in the iceberg was not because of him having a human moment of being afraid and overwhelmed by all his responsibilities by running away but because he left to clear his head, I was already done with the show.
If you can’t this crucial part of Aang’s development correct, what can you get right? And spoiler alert: the answer was not much. Albert and his writers do not want their characters to have character flaws.
You're 100% correct. They don't want their "good" characters to have any flaws. They actively removed all flaws from all members of team Avatar.
Aang is no longer immature, or responsable from running away. He also never had to lie to his friends because he was afraid to lose them like in the episode "Bato of the watertribe".
Katara is no longer bossy, or jealous of Aang learning faster than her. She didn't have to steal the scroll or didn't have to shut her mouth and swallow her pride to have Pakku teach waterbending to Aang.
Sokka is no longer immature, sexist, insecure of himself and a bad fighter.
Zuko does no longer have any anger issues to overcome, and doesn't have "the ends justify the means" mentality he has in the animated show.
Yeah and then they try and make every character in the series make aang feel bad for abandoning them (like bumi) but it doesn’t work because he didn’t even run away. He shouldn’t really feel much or any guilt.
Giving characters flaws makes them great
Removing flaws leads to no growth making them mid
Does it really matter? He still left and woke up to find his nation gone. And he still felt responsible for it. Yall are just nitpicking.
Rather he ran away or not the point is destiny didn't have him at that air temple during the genocide
@@KaypainBeats it actually matters it shows he had a moment of weakness rejecting himself being the avatar when he accepts his role later on that's called character development
Bumi being angry at Aang is even more stupid when you realize that THIS version of Aang didn't even run away like in the cartoon. He legit just got caught in a storm while he was trying to come to terms with his responsibility and couldn't get back. Which also takes away from Aang's character.
The “they see with their emotions” bit angers me specially because it carries huge implications for Toph and her character, since she learned to see from those things!
When Katara said “feeling”, she meant physically feeling things, how does no one understand this 😭
I HATE what they did to Bumi. Originally Bumi was a wise king giving good advice to a 12 year old child. Now it feels like Bumi was raging about the unfairness of the world when it comes to responsibilities and tough decisions. While the CHILD is now wise and mature in his naivety for refusing to accept that advice. Just completely unrealistic and divergent from the original
It was an ugly choice, I hated it too. Also didn't get past episode three when everything that was great got smushed together into a dull brown sludge.
I've had an epiphany about writing recently that no one bothered to say in all the years I've been listening to people's hot takes about the process. Character flaws, are not only not just faults characters have, not only do they have to affect the story, but they are relative and somewhat arbitrary. In fact, a character's falt and strength can sometimes - even often - be the same.
Today I was trying to figure out what Aang's main one was, and I couldn't put my finger on it, because he's immature, but it doesn't hinder his progress that often. So I felt stupid when I realized, duh, he ran away, because he wasn't ready. He disappeared for a whole century. It's more than understandable - but, it is a problem, and it effected the story. However Aang's refusal to kill is also part of this immaturity. It's naive for a child to think he can win a war, by toppling a dictator and not have to kill anybody. But is war and killing "mature"? Is that how we want to usher our character into adulthood? Bumi's character reflects this duality. He's over a hundred years old, but he maintains the curiosity, playfulness, and creativity of his youth, while imparting wise lessons and reconnecting with an old friend. Aang, Bumi, and to a lesser extent Iroh exist to say "don't forget your inner child, they're important"
Bro, how dare they remove the sexism from sokka. Even in the show, it is portraied as something negative, and he has a big ark to realize the error of his ways. They're worried of being canceled because of saying "sexism is bad"? Morons
As much as I don't agree with Netflixs decision to remove Sokkas sexism, some people nowadays are so devoid of media literacy that I can genuinely see some people outraging about it if they kept it in and played it out the same way as the show.
@@edgyelectrokinetic6761What people would be outraged? Like less than 1% of the population that actually watch ATLA. In fact, it is fair to assume that such people didn’t even like the original anime series coz of sexism. Therefore, why care about them now? You satisfy the minority at the cost of losing the majority? We can have different political predispositions but at least we can all agree Sokka’s character learnt and grew from his sexism. He actually grew to respect women. Who in their right mind would be outraged by this? Sokka actually got served for believing what he did about women. Shouldn’t said “outraged party” be happy with this?
Ultimately, removing the sexism gives no message against it, since it's not there in any way.
Calm your tits, His sexism lasted like 3 episodes and was never mentioned again. I swear the obnoxious fans are seriously picking some strange hills to die on.
i know sokka is a playboy or smth but damn moving on to yue from suki in the span of 2 eps or smth is crazy
trying to make Ozai a sympathetic villain as if Zuko isn't supposed to be just that, Zuko is the sympathetic villain that eventually gets redeemed and joins the gaang and Ozai is the unredeemable villain that must be stopped for good
The decision to cut Aang learning to waterbend is so weird. Its like the core idea of the show Aang is the chosen one whi must travel the world and learn every type of magic! And they removed him learning the fucking magic.
I remember Katara teaching Aang how she water bends. Aang picked it up really quickly and started outperforming her and it frustrated her. I'm not surprised they left that out. It was a woke decision
Katara makes it to the North, fights some old man, and gets no training. Now she's alrdy labeled a 'master' with very little combat experience and super basic knowledge of water bending. Another woke decision
Magic😐
@@FTWNorwayFTW I know I know it's bending and it's deeply cultured in our world. But when you break down the story into it's fundamentals, its Aang learning different types of magic. That's the whole core of the show and the cut it. What a decision.
@@cqllel5186 I mean they have changed quite a few details from the original. They could've made it a more traditional training story if they didn't want him to be so talented. It is baffling considering the whole point of season 1 is water bending for aang. It is really disappointing to see them get the visual effects so right as well as introducing some interesting new scenes, only to butcher the original elements and absolutely wreck the dialogue.
@@FTWNorwayFTWyou can't understand why he said magic grow up
I miss the scene where Aang wakes up after 100 years and sees Katara first. That's where it all started between them. And their bond also led to saving world.
Netflix made it, that he first see some kids...then Sokka with a spear... then he sees Katara but does´t care.... and hey where is Appa? Here he is.... nobody tells him that he was saved by her...
This.
Still a masterpiece compared to the... other adaptation
@@Aukrania Everything is a masterpiece compared to that movie 😀
In the Netflix adaptaation, Avatar Kyoshi told Aang that he needed to go to the North because something bad was going to happen there... But that bad thing only happens because Aang goes there xD (the Fire Nation attack). The reason Aang goes there isn't to learn waterbending :l
Exactlyyyy I noticed that. Why would they try to prevent fire nation attack when they are the reason fire nation attacks?? And if my memory's correct, nobody said to Pakku that Aang needed a waterbending master. Or what was Pakku's role there if not to train Aang?
@@Nisacha49 Yeah, right?! xD
that plot pooint was sooooo retarded
@@Nisacha49Pakku's role was to show that Katara is the master of waterbending, despite him having decades of training.
Aang encountering Roku should have been one of the most sobering experiences for him and one of the gravest plot points, but it ended up being a total frustrating gagfest for Aang to save his friends. Aang encountering Bumi should have been a total frustrating gagfest for Aang to save his friends, but it ended up being one of the most sobering experiences for him and one of the gravest plot points.
Summed up my issues with episode 3 to 6. The fire nation plot line is the only thing they got right.
You cant really excuse them for not having enough run time. The original season 1 had 20 episodes, 23 minutes each = 7h, 20m. The netflix season 1 is 8 episodes, 1 h each = 8 h. So, thats more time than the original. If they had spend less time with Ozai and Azula, they could have devoted more time to develop the main characters better and have them actually bond with each other and not just use them as pawns to get to the next bog plot point
It's closerf to about 50 minutes each, and 22 minutes each. But still, net is only about a 20 minute difference. So, they had to take out 1 episode. And the rest they had time for. Instead it feels slow and bloated. And meaningless somehow? Like, the whole show and none of the characters even felt like friends. They spent so much time apart. Even uncle and Zuko felt pointless. Like we got some backstory that would be nice under different circumstances. But I felt nothing. They hardly felt like family
I agree somewhat. They dont have time for each adventure. They DID have time to flesh out character and create depth.
Pacing, as was predicted, was going to be off if they didnt cut some stuff. They didnt. They tried craming everything in.
A show can cut between places between episodes and your brain fills in the. If the show did this, it would feel even more rushed.
Personally, they shouldve broke it up more. More episodes, not being afraid of ending book 1 mid season 2. Then a few filler eps, then book 2 starts.
This was clearly made with love and passion, season 2 can fix this. Season 1 isnt so bad that it leaves a super sour taste, its more bland.
@@naturesfinest2408 to be fair, this is the new tv show format. Even if they wanted to break it up more, Netflix would not have allowed them, so its not really their choice.
Should ve been 10 episode season imo
Do you really watched thelive adaptation
Why is it that UA-camrs seem to grasp script writing and plot setups and translations better than paid teams of writers?????
EVERY DARN TIME!!!!
Who knows maybe the writers get hired because of nepotism and hence are so shit.
@@mushrifahmed8107 That's a possibility....
Hindsight is a gift to all
I dunno maybe because UA-camRS need to be entertaining to succeed so they become masters of story telling themselves
Because people who make videos like these are often fans themselves, just like us. They actually love the series, unlike those c*cksucking netflix or hollywood writers who don't care, or sometimes even actively hate the things they're supposedly adapting.
12 episodes would have been the way to go with each season.. it just feels way too rushed now
Budget issue. Keeping it 8 episodes while cutting filler unimportant plots should be the way to go.
@@wilsonooi4031 gotta spend money to make money. The fact they changed character traits and removed plots proves they don’t really know what they’re doing except cashing out on a beloved series. No one is saying they can’t cut out certain episodes and tone down the child humor but they also shouldn’t remove the heart and souls of the show and expect us all to praise them for it
@user-lg6ij6to4r I agree. But I doubt they have an endless budget since each ep supposedly cost 20m to make. Besides, with the current writing, even 12 episodes won't save the show. In fact, it might be way worse. Rmb they chose to make Azula emotionally unstable. They chose to make Zuko fight Ozai. Giving them more time would most likely result in more additional lore and more exposition dumps.
@@wilsonooi4031 that’s the thing tho. You can complain about costs all you want but this was so poorly made I doubt it took that much time and money to make these most of the scenes are just two people talking it’s almost like a stage play
@@user-lg6ij6to4r The money obviously went to the visuals. Adding episodes without putting in more money will only make other parts worse. Your suggestion of keeping throwing money at it is unrealistic, when will it end? If they made a 12 ep but its still not good, you'll just say they should've made a 16 ep series.
Point is resources are finite. If you suggest making the show longer, what are you willing to cut?
I watched the Netflix adaptation before the original and I was shocked how many things they changed or rushed… heck I didn’t even had the slightest idea that Aang and Katara have a love story going on. Which is so heavily implied in the original it feels totally forced and unnecessary when you watched the Netflix version before
Lucky you... i wished i watched the netflix version first... cuz i didnt enjoy it...only ep 6
Katara was not at the sacred oasis at the North Pole, nor was she told of its existence. Only at the end did she get water from Pakku without knowing what it was... Best way to then ressurect Aang with that, when she doesn ´t know what it is...
No foaming mouth guy, I hate this show.
lol priorities
he's an even more of a fanatic than the whole fandom 😂
I agree with all your points and would like to add another one:
I hate that they changed the Agni Kai between Zuko and Ozai by making Zuko attack Ozai. It completely changed both characters, in exchange of an unnecessary fight scene. In the original series, Zuko refused to fight his dad and that is what fueled Ozai's rage against him, also the fact that Ozai attacked Zuko when he wasnt even fighting made him much more cruel.
Iroh doesn’t have the charm goofiness that we all love. Katara is completely flat. Azula is one dimensional. If they’re going to make this many changes, why not just make a separate story?? Why remake it?
Book 2 and 3 are much more complicated, I’m not even going to bother with s2 and 3 of this show. And for that I’m out ✌🏼
Yeah I want to finish it, but halfway through I ended up rewatching the original and now I don’t really wanna go back
@@trafficcone7344 This Netflix remake did successfully do something tho. It made me miss the original so much I had to rewatch it for the 100th time.
@@Nejictorr exactly what I’m saying lol. At first I just wanted to compare scenes, but then I found myself completely hooked again 😂
Iron being Mr Kim makes it acceptable
Same as the peeps in the replies here, finished the third netflix episode, immediately went back to the animated show with a newfound appreciation on top of the love I already had for it since childhood, and now that i'm an adult I can buy the comics and novels to appreciate everything even more. If anything, it was an excercise in film critique 😅
2:43 Zuko didnt steal Katara's necklace through an encounter, he found it just laying around at the metal prison. if anything he did the opposite of stealing it, he made it possible for it to be returned xd
To me, them including the tunnel of lovers felt like an excuse for them to include the funny tunnel song everyone loves instead of waiting 2 seasons. Also, i cant be the only one who thinks its weird they took a romantic plot and turned it into a plot of sibling bonding. Even if they changed it thats still weird, right?
its about love not romance
I feel like they did the cave of 2 lovers exclusively because they wanted to put the song in the show and thought it would be some sort of “meme viral moment”
I think they wanted to use the opportunity to present Oma and Shu as a Lesbian couple instead of a straight couple (like in the animation).
@@Aetheroth Which is really funny to me because you know they wanted to put a couple like that more obviously somewhere else but they didn't dare make a change like that so they Bassically just threw it into the story.
@@Aetheroth they did what?! man i didn't notice! why netflix why
@@christiandaniel542so if it was so insignificant you didn’t even notice WHILE YOU WERE WATCHING, why are you crying about it now that you’ve found out? This entire commentary is filled with weird lowest common denominator, anti critical thinking skills complaints while disregarding the actual production issues of poor characterization and acting. The inclusion of secret tunnel was obviously for fanfare and as a knod to the original viewers, to show the lengths the siblings will go to protect their friend, which ties into Aang’s concurrent narrative/stance with Bumi that he’s not doing it alone and has the help of his friends. Equally as importantly, it’s also a chance to explain the origins of earthbending to new viewers. But yeah - instead of realizing that, you should just complain that some insignificant background origins were changed (without you even noticing, btw).
ok what now?? i guess we should make aang gay now!! and have him end up with zuko!! @@Aetheroth
the craziest thing is that they had almost the same screen-time as the animated series. And they STILL make it FEEL RUSHED AF with less then HALF of the material, like wtf? They spent to much time boasting about their special effects and new materials that they destroyed the original plot, I understand wanting to add more to the story, but if you want to add to a story that is almost perfect and needs everything, then they should have added all the new plots as extra-time, like 12 episodes where 3-episodes-screen-worth-of-time were their new materials. Instead they sacrificed half of the absolutely mandatory plots in the original series for their half-baked-fanmade-stories. It also felt to me like they actively tried to give the kids actors as little screen time, lines, emotions as possible, especially the actors for team avatar, they were utterly disrespected like "you can't play this, anyways, we'll cover you guys with our expensive special-effects"
You forgot to add one of the worst changes they did, Aang asking Kiyoshi for advice FIRST. Kiyoshi didnt have business with whats going on, Roku is the Avatar right before Aang.
I mean, it does make sense for Aang to ask Kiyoshi, specially since they first travel to her island, it's actually cool to see a full fledged Avatar in form and I think it's also important for new viewers, but I agree cutting Roku part is a crime
it was just for fanservice and not for good storytelling. it was shit @@cubiertok5884
I think the problem is in the lore, if the avatar wants to talk to all their past lives, they have to establish the connection with their direct predecessor, it kinda get more explanation in kyoshi book, as she cant talk to yangchen, or szeto before talking to kuruk, which is kinda big plot point in her novel, also why korra didnt talk to any avatar until book 2, since she only established the connection with aang in the finale of book one
@@cubiertok5884 I thought full fledged Kyoshi was weird. What? Previous avatars can come back entirely if their shrine is near by? Why not build those suckers everywhere? In the cartoon, it was an extremely rare and short (in duration) occurrence for a previous avatar to “visually manifest” through Aang but they seemed more like illusions than solid entities. They were also mostly rooted to a spot not Supermaning all over a village for ten minutes.
Why can't anyone seem to make a live version of this show that really does the animated version justice? Just stick to the story! We won't be unhappy if it's literally a live action version of the cartoon!
They already fucked up by not ensuring that all characters look like they do in the original. What’s funny is how inconsistent fans who think they did good are
Bro I'm so proud of you. To see you go from GOT coverage to all these things. Your analysis has refined and grown in numerous ways. It's the good Shit.
I wouldn't mind the whole Bumi being serious if they just show us the flashbacks of him as a young man and king during the entire war so we could understand his perspective but they didn't at all.
Bruh he said it himself multiple time clear as day; a CENTURY of making life or death hardcore decisions has completely changed and hardened him. “Does the orphanage get the food supply or does the army?” It was a very real, very realistic interpretation of why a once fun loving kid would turn unstable, exhausted and decisive. It was also a parallel of why Aang had to embrace his role and turn from irresponsibility, because it was literal life or death circumstances. It’s like no one actually listens, the average viewer wants everything visually shown with no subtext for the most dumbed down experience possible.
@@andydietrich3689And yet it's still complete assassination of a dude who only fought Aang or fucked with him at all because he wanted to teach him the importance of thinking laterally. Rather than attacking a child because you're mad life isn't fair.
@@andydietrich3689 This is not an original product, it is adaptation of one. If you wanted an original story written, Netflix should’ve done an original story.
The “Sokka’s flaws being removed” criticism can honestly be applied to every character, ESPECIALLY Katara. They removed the compelling flaws from nearly every character that established character arcs and room for growth.
Tell dont show is the worst change they made. Instead of Aang telling Appa, he could have just looked out at the temple scared, hyperventilating, gotten on Appa and flew away, saying “I can’t do this. I just can’t.” Saved time, and better quality.
I wish this was a top comment. A lot of the frustration (other than butchering all characterizations) comes from this.
I don't agree that introducing Ozai was a good thing. In the animated series, each season a new member of the royal firenation family is introduced as antagonists. In season 1 it is Zuko, in season 2 Azula is added, and only in season 3 Ozai is seen more. This causes the tension to build naturally over the course of the show and for mystery to remain about who the firelord is. Also it creates a disconnect between team avatar and the firelord. Making the world feel larger and the firelord to feel more untouchable and distant. This works very well in the animated show in my opinion and this point is completely missed in the live action.
3:46 yeah I totally agree. I’m really tired of the sentiment that all villains have to be either sympathetic or redeemable.
Ozai was brought up during a war that was passed down from his grandfather to his father and then onto him and is about how much the purpose of the war has changed from Sozin’s twisted idea of sharing the fire nations prosperity with the rest of the world to now just a quest for power and dominance.
Taking away Ozai’s menacing and irredeemable nature takes away from other parts of the story such as Zuko and Azula and how they ended up as they are. And it’ll take away from the ending of Aang questioning whether he’ll have to betray his cultural beliefs and take the life of someone who clearly deserves to have their life taken away.
And just like you said too, he’s not as monstrous or threatening like a force of nature (such as a wildfire), he feels way too human and same for azula. Because azula was so feared in the series and she served and was obedient and even scared of Ozai that built him up more to be scarier and stronger than Azula.
And as someone that was raised by a violent egomaniac, it feels like such a slap to the face. Irredeemable people exist, needlessly cruel people exist. In my experience, the way people would sympathize with my abuser because of the cycle of abuse as if that makes up for the shit he put on the kids in his care, just... UGH. UUUUUUGGGGH.
Agreed. Ozai having a tragic and abusive past like everyone else is a given. I don't need to be shown it and I don't wanna sympathize with him til long after he's rotted in Jail.
I also didn’t like how in the live action Aang goes to see Koh the face stealing spirit and he shows emotion but doesn’t get his face stolen.
While in the original show he didn’t show any emotion at all.
Aang showed emotion in the OG series when he learned about the Koi Fish, Koh just wasn't making eye contact at the time, or perhaps he just let Aang off easy because he's the Avatar.
@@timmyman9677 Yeah but that was because Aang didn’t do it when Koh was staring at him.
Aang didn´t learn waterbending cause in the original show Aang was so talented, that katara was jealous, and there is no way that a female Netflix main charakter should be jealous of a white male
Makes a lot of sense when you put it this way. 🤔
The actor is Filipino
And god forbid we show Katara having a human moment of being jealous, realizing she was wrong and apologizing right?
Maybe they just didnt have time to show that plotline cuz its a rushed cashgrab, but ofc some incel virgin needs to make it about "woke" media. Go back to blocking abortion acces you simpleton hillbilly
Its a bad remake, no need to showcase how your intelligence matches flat earth boomers by throwing in some "woke" media comments used by racists, bigots and fascists when they dont like something and need to impress their antiquated worldview made for dumb monkeys into every comment they make.
Nah this aint A:TLA this is Abatar The Last Wind Manipulator
Jesu 😂
Leaving out wan shi tongs library and instead just having him cameo in the spirit world really annoyed me
Tbh the library was in season 2 of the cartoon. I found it weird they had him in the spirit world forest at all
They dumbed Bumi down unlike in the anime series where he seems to know what he's doing instead of being senile.
Exactly, and Bumi was a little goofy with a serious lesson he did in order to help his old friend, not the horrible, angry and bitter creep pretending to be him in the live version.
They only included the tunnel filler plot because of the “secret tunnel” song being iconic to the show similar to the cabbage merchant, but of course they fucked it up, and fucked up everything else too
The secret Tunnel episode was set up, not filler bit of a difference
In the tunnel episode in the original, it’s building up this pleasant story about how Omasui came to be right before we see it has been taken over by the fire nation, and Azula comes to rename it. That hits harder because of the set ups in the secret tunnel episode. Also it set up Toph later in the season and how her bending works.
I said this in another comment but I want to include it here because I’m genuinely shocked people are so interested in crapping on this show in any way possible, instead of analyzing why scenes were included. Like how are you even complaining about the SECRET TUNNEL? The inclusion of secret tunnel was for fanfare and as a knod to the original viewers who loved the song, to show the lengths the siblings will go to protect their friend, which ties into Aang’s concurrent narrative/stance with Bumi that he’s not doing it alone and has the help of his friends. Equally as importantly, it’s also a chance to explain the origins of earthbending to new viewers.
@@andydietrich3689 team avatar is barely a team in the live action so far lmao, so much for the friends message
1. removed sokka's immaturity and sexism
2. why the f are sokka and suki kissing when they just met each other
3. aang not waterbending in book WATER
4. gaang went to the north to find a because kyoshi TOLD THEM to
5. zhao is conniving and cowardly than brash and confrontational
6. why is koh beefing with roku and NOT KURUK
7. katara being such a blank sheet of paper
8. ozai showing remorse for burning zuko
9. gyatso randomly appearing in the spirit world
10. katara knowing her mother got killed in front of herself
11. roku being too goofy for a wise old avatar
12. bumi being bitter towards aang
13. aang ending up in the iceberg because he wanted to get some air?? WTF
also dont forget that the original creators left the project so this is what we get after years of waiting. sure the visuals look amazing but at what cost? and people will still say "uHH its an adaptation not a1:1 faithful recreation why should it be the same" which is idiotic. the cartoon had its own PHENOMENAL charming storytelling and worldbuilding . if you change or reinterpret it then doesnt it lose what makes it special in the first place??? disgusting
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@@KoboresoI don’t get it, you’re compiling a numerical list of everything you didn’t like about the show and trying to relate it to one another? I think the issue is that you’re really young/underdeveloped and can’t even attempt to view the story you already know through a lense of something new. There was definitely lackluster writing, poor acting, and weird choices, but everything you’re copy/paste complaining about is pretty nonsensical and you’re complaining because it didn’t match up to the original cartoon scene per scene? The cartoon was a cartoon, childish and simple and PG. This show is depicting from a real life perspective; real life with life or death decisions. For example in regards to Bumi, of course a 100-year old elderly man isn’t going to be all bubbly and excited to play after suffering in a war as a leader for 100 YEARS - that’s just not how real humans act, that’s how cartoons act. Does YOUR grandpa run around with you and play goofy games and do cartwheels? Or is he constantly in pain and sleeps a lot?
Also Ang never crushes on Katara the entire season.
Yeah Aang and Katara definetly wont be a couple in Netflix's version of Avatar.
@@danielmedjedovic7068 this Katara is so bland I don't blame Ang for not being interested.
@@comicsans6487 Yeah true
as he should
why should he? she's boring and not caring or motherly
I hate the way the fire benders in the woods do that clawy hand thing. They no werewolves, firebenders use their fists
So many of the character changes seem telated to modern screen writers' apparent unwillingness to give main characters any kind of character flaws.
It's shareholder oversight. Most corporations simply wont consider anything that might upset the allmighty council of rich idiots who ruin all art
@@BurgermanForever-nh2vpThe same rich idiot that prolly wont even watch this anyway
I hate the way they did Roku in the live action series. In the original show, he was a wise mentor figure to Aang, he pops in to give him advice or important information, he's serious, but he's also friendly towards Aang.
In NATLA, Roku only has the friendly aspect. He makes jokes, tells Aang *not* to confront Koh (the literal opposite of what he said in the original), and gives a little advice and a macguffin. He has no presence, nothing to make him feel powerful or respectable. It's such a waste.
ozai shouldn't have been humanzied the whole point is that he is straight up evil enough to scar and send one of his children away. zuko could have died and he wouldn't have batted an eye.
Aang does not learn waterbending... Azula is not feared and respected at all. The sub plot combinations make everything feel rushed. This being slightly better than the movie DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY... I was so exited, now I am just disappointed. They should just cancel this...
I completley agree with all of these, but how the heck did turning Katara into a Mary Sue not make the list?! The original Katara was so relatable because she struggled with water bending. She wasn't a natural, she didn't just pick up it, she had to work to get better and when she screwed up, she showed her intelligence by making her screw ups work for her. An example is in the first (or second depending on how you view it) episode where Sokka and Katara are rescuing Aang from Zuko where she tries to freeze fire nation soldiers but accidentally ends up freezing Sokka. Rather than giving up, or trying to figure out how to do the move properly, she turned her screw up into her strength and freezes the soldiers because of it! Not only that but they took out her training as well! She doesn't get the rank of master because she's proven to have worked hard to surpass even the Avatar in water bending by discipline and hard work. No, she simply surpasses him because she's a woman, and the conflict between her and Paku isn't that she's a woman and he won't train her. It's that she's a girl and he won't let her fight?! The hell is he gonna do if Katara and the other women start to fight when the fire nation is attacking? Attack the women to force them not to fight while the fire nation is attacking? It's such a stupid change.
Very well argued points, and brilliant understanding of origin series
Finally, someone else who thought June showing up on the island made no sense. I can't find any other review that mentions this.
Some things I dislike:
The paradox of this show is that the actors, for the most part, are really, really believable but their characters are not.
Iroh, early on, is an idiot. It is on him that Zhao knows anything at all. Iroh also gets himself caught when no one was looking for him or Zuko. It's weird.
The odd fascination on Kyoshi when she is likely 200 years removed from the world. And the cgi looked particularly poor.
Kuruk being both even older than Kyoshi and having his soul, somehow different from the Avatar's soul which is not how reincarnation works, corrupted.
Bumi, the actor was very good. Bumi, the character was extremely poor. Bumi tells Aang to not rely on anyone and that Bumi had to do 'things' that are unsavory. The problem is that original Bumi is a 100 years old and should be well past this, _and_ he should already have come to the conclusion that a group is stronger than any single unit. It makes me worry for the White Lotus.
Personally, I think the seasons of live action should be double the cartoon with Roku's island being the finale of the first season. Sure, it would be tough doing this but it would give the opportunity to expand the characters. That doesn't seem to be happening here.
The Hakoda change. It might be okay but it doesn't sit well with me since Sokka is supposed to be someone of bravado who then actually needs to prove himself. In s1, his brain is basically his only useful part; in s3, Sokka leads an army with a sword that he's, no matter how rushed, trained to fight with.
Azula's introduction doesn't work whatsoever. According to her, the 'rebels' are her cousins. Why wouldn't her own cousins know what the royal princess looks like?
Sokka's boomerang. He apparently made it himself which feels like a Star Wars gag. "You are alone so your name will be Solo." We didn't need to know _where_ the boomerang came from. And what is with the physics of this show? Suki can barely toss a fan and it cuts 5 melons cleanly but Sokka hard throws a boomerang and it barely impales one?
I have more, but I wanted to mention somethings I liked:
Zuko and Iroh's relationship feels very close to the cartoon.
Sokka's character. He's the best of the good guys easily even if some of his 'sarcastic' lines feel incredibly out of place or as if they were filmed separately.
The set design and wardrobe.
Zhao.
Finally someone acknowledged Zhao. One of the very few things netflix got right
Everything you said was spot on how I felt about everything when I was watching it. I felt so thrown off about everything that I got stuck wondering how would someone new who hasn’t seen the show start with this make it seem worth watching the anime
I’ve been saying this and I’ll say it again. The focus should be on creating new/additional stories in the universe rather than retelling an already great story with live action.😕
the show almost has the same run time as the original but thanks to being shoe horned into 8 episodes each 40+ minute it becomes such a weird fiasco to work out the story-line and ultimately the writers came up with a frakenstein mess that feels like we are either rushing through plotlines or are dragging our feet on some plots like the two spirit world/Roku episodes. Maybe 25 - 30 minute 16ish episodes could help the second season giving them a little more time to add whatever new things to the show and preserve the flow from the original show instead of trying to mix and match episodes
Yeah they are not going to change the structure of the seasons. Netflix does shorter seasons typically. I think they needed to cut a few more episodes and focus on developing the gaangs relqtionship. It is really sad to see such a big budget project succeed in so many technical aspects and fail in storytelling and dialogue which is a lot easier to manage.
@@josiahbrown7258yeah i get thats netflx's way, they didnt even bother trying to milk the first season like stranger things if they want to ease the story issues thereby upping the quality doing 25min epis wouldnt be a bad move they could do 2 episodes a week
@@dinuraasnaka4603 I think that they could've done it this way effectively 2. They have done so many things well for a live action adaptation in terms of casting and action and effects. The problem is the dialogue is honestly just pathetic for anything beyond a student film. They make some interesting tweeks to the original story but then proceed to splice together completely unrelated stories or characters. It's just a waste of talented work. Because if there was good planning and writing could see this project being a very good new telling of a great story. But they have started off rough. Season 2 and 3 are a lot busier and the og show's peak. It will be tough to match that.
June being in the show while The Deserter isn't, says a lot about this adaptation's priorities. Both could have been cut for time, (and between the two, Jeong Jeong is more important) but Netflix's mentality is that if you have a cool girlboss bounty hunter, you do whatever you can to fit her in.
Changing Aang's abandonment is my #1. It's the whole point of this whole adventure! Aang not learning waterbending is #2, and the Airbender genocide, which ruins the intrigue, is #3. Katara being more timid, downplaying Roku, Sokka's erasing negative traits, and basically all the stuff they brought in from Season 2 so soon, round out my list.
Honorable mention : having Ty Lee and Mai in the fire nation capital alongside Azula. I get that they wanted to do something to introduce Azula in season 1, but they still could have introduced mai and ty lee next season. In the original show, we meet them in settings that lets them have character development just from where they are and what they are doing. Ty Lee being a circus member tells us that she is someone playful and extravagant, and that she generally likes having a spotlight on her and standing out. Similarly, Mai living with her family in the newly fire nation controlled Omashu shows us how she dislikes her family life and probably wants to do other stuff (I feel like Ty Lee is a more fleshed out character in the original show, that or I misunderstood Mai). That episode alone is more character building for those two than the whole live action. Also, this episode is one of the first episodes featuring Azula and we get to see what she's willing to do to get what she wants based on how she convinces Ty Lee to join her. It is implied that Ty Lee and Mai are the some of the closest people Azula has, and she's willing to risk Ty Lee's life just to convince her, and taking her away from a place where she is happy. Also, those first episodes featuring Azula show us how powerful she is, and the way she goes out of her way to recruit Mai and Ty Lee, we already anticipate how powerful they are, as Azula considers them almost as her equals. So this little storyline in the original is very good and the show took it away and lost a chance to develop two of it's main characters. I feel like the only reason viewers can have of being invested in Ty Lee and Mai in the live action is that they've seen the original and liked them there. (Sorry for the poor english, it isn't my first language)
I have not watched the rest of the show because after what they did to Bumi I was done. Bumi is one of the coolest characters in season one and is still fun and funny even though he’s 111-112, even though he’s just there for one episode he gives you a part of Aang’s life before the 100 year war. The live action Bumi was grumpy rude and had zero like ability. In legends of Kora we see Aang names of one his sons after Bumi because he was his close friend and that is so sweet, but Aang would never name his child after Bumi if he treated him like live action Bumi did. Sorry for this long comment. I love both the shows and all the books lore after and before Aang’s time so it annoys me when characters are changed so much they don’t seem themselves anymore.
Yeah. Good comment.
Adaption doesn't really respect old people like the cartoon did btw. 😅
I wonder if they will do the White Lotus... There's going to be continuity errors if they do, but I still hope they will :)
I only watched the first episode. Couldn’t get through the second one.. and I’m honestly glad I didn’t waste my time.
I honestly don't understand these comments. The way you guys want to picture this show as something so awful that you can't even watch it is stupid, but ok
@@salvatoreruggiero6551 I didn't say it was awful.. it's just not for me. I prefer the original. And there were some bad choices made in the production. Why am I not allowed to say that? It's just my opinion, but ok
@@ineffablemars i know it is not just for you. I think you people are too attacched to the original, but ok.
Hey man do me a favour and just power through the first 3 episodes. Trust me I was the same like you but the show has such an endearing and charming feel to it and even tho it’s not the best you end up loving it. I used to do what you did in the past to shows and movies I didn’t like or felt wasn’t for me, I would only watch like 30 minutes of a movie or 2 episodes of a show and give up. But later on in life I would revisit the show or movie and power through and 8/10 I ended up loving them and feeling like I was wrong to give up. Just dedicate a weekend to it or an hour a day. EP. 6 is AMAZING!!! Come back to me after you’re done and if I was wrong let me know, or if you changed your mind let me know as well.
@@salvatoreruggiero6551It's understandable that most people would feel more attached to the original. The show had the almost perfect formula of charm, writing, and characterization. And for most of it to be sanded off and changed really displeased the ones who've come to love it. It's incredulity to change. And to be honest, for me, despite the Netflix LA's cool exploration and fleshing out of the world, I think the writing itself is sub par to the original.
If there’s one change to the live action show that I can’t get behind, it’s the fact that all of the fun has been sucked right out of it.
Now, it’s clear to me that they’re targeting a more mature audience, judging by the fact that they literally show a character being burned alive in the first five minutes. What a way to set the tone, right? Even so, one of the original show’s strengths was that it didn’t take itself completely seriously all the time. The remake is grim and the characters are mature, despite being children. For instance, Aang feels less like a goofy kid thrust into being the Avatar, and more like a self deprecating angsty teen.
I’m not saying we need jokes every five seconds or filler episodes, but seriously, just let these kids act like kids once in a while! Having some lighthearted moments mixed in makes the emotional moments hit that much harder.
The writers openly stated they wanted to "Get the game of thrones crowd" and "Have a more mature audience". Apparently they didn't realize that all the fans of AtLA are in their 20s and 30s. They already have that audience on lock.
Great work. Finally i can tell my friends in Detail and exactly What went wrong 👍🏼
One the plus side, it's better than the abomination of God that M. Night Shyamalan made, but then again, that bar was so low, anything could have done that.
For me, one of the other bad changes was how the sexism in the Northern Water Tribe was handled and particularly removing Pack's connection to Kanna a.k.a. Gran-Gran. I think the show runners were aiming for that scene from The Hobbit; Battle of the Five Armies, in which the women of Lake-Town decide to join the battle, "standing with [their] men in life and in death," but ultimately, it all misses the mark.
I agree with all of this. What they did to Bumi was an insult to the character, and Soka being.. mature?... I remember whenever the bounty hunter lady found him and I was literally "What? How is that even possible?"... They went from the Earth kingdom to an Island in the fire nation. Aang getting there himself would be unlikely in a short amount of time, let alone her sloth thing.
Personally my least favorite thing was Aang not learning water bending. Like that was the WHOLE point of the book being called "Water". They have no reason to call it the water chapter since they spent more time in the earth Kingdom... Like I was expecting some amount of water bending. Plus Aang has WAY too much control over the avatar state. It has always knocked him out but now he can just enter it and meet avatars like its nothing...
I love the cave of lovers, but I honestly feel they should have left it out, especially when it isnt going to have half of the cast that was part of arc in it.
The graphics and acting was great. The actors did what they were told. Its just unfortunate the writers butchered it. If this show somehow manages to get to Book 3, I can't wait to see how they do the dragons.
there is no reason to watch this when the original exists.
Literally my thoughts exactly! Great video.
10-I don't mind adding the love tunnel so early, unfortunately I wish the moment was still kept more for Aang and Katara. Also the payoff for leaving the tunnel should have been different.
9-Yeah June was rushed but it's not that bad.
8-Agreed
7-Agreed
6-I don't mind the Roku subplot being rushed, but I do wished we got to see Aang go into the Avatar state as Roku.
5-Agreed
4-I disagree, I think Sokka is growing just differently and faster.
3-Agree
2-Agreed, not only that but someone who never watched Avatar before might be confused since they would never see Aang bend any other element.
1-I don't mind combining subplots, but I do agree some of them should have been handled differently.
The reason why One Piece Netflix is good while ATLA is mid, they have the creator of the manga, Eichiro Oda in charge of the production as he supervized everything. Also, the casting is way better than ATLA casting even the guy who played Luffy has the same energy like Luffy in the anime or manga . Even the guy who played Sanji took his role seriously, from learning how to cook, doing martial arts and even cooking on Sanji's costume. Sure it's not 100% like the original but I give the credit to the director for his effort because the director is the fan of the anime.
Meanwhile, for ATLA, I already knew it's gonna be bad as I heard the obvious red flag as the original creators from the cartoon left the production because of "Creative Differences" and now I know why.
I definitely agree with you the One Piece live action was good and then ATLA is a little questionable…
1. removed sokka's immaturity and sexism
2. why the f are sokka and suki kissing when they just met each other
3. aang not waterbending in book WATER
4. gaang went to the north to find a because kyoshi TOLD THEM to
5. zhao is conniving and cowardly than brash and confrontational
6. why is koh beefing with roku and NOT KURUK
7. katara being such a blank sheet of paper
8. ozai showing remorse for burning zuko
9. gyatso randomly appearing in the spirit world
10. katara knowing her mother got killed in front of herself
11. roku being too goofy for a wise old avatar
12. bumi being bitter towards aang
13. aang ending up in the iceberg because he wanted to get some air?? WTF
also dont forget that the original creators left the project so this is what we get after years of waiting. sure the visuals look amazing but at what cost? and people will still say "uHH its an adaptation not a1:1 faithful recreation why should it be the same" which is idiotic. the cartoon had its own PHENOMENAL charming storytelling and worldbuilding . if you change or reinterpret it then doesnt it lose what makes it special in the first place??? disgusting
@@KoboresoSuki going from "Kick Sokka's ass and initially dislike him for being a sexist pig but grow to like him as he learns humility" to "Omg, he's so hot" is just embarrassing. She might not be in my top 5 favorite female characters from the series, but she still deserves better
IKR like LA suki is just omg ive never seen a hot boy before suddenly i want to open up the island now @@MurasakiTsukimaru
I still cant get over how they messed with Sokka's ark. Alot of it is so easy and cheap and lame. the deepest characters so far are Suko and even Iroh lol. Fire nation overall were my favorite parts so far
Brilliant critique.
Thank you! Argument nr. 2 gets me the most. What is the outcome of book Water if not Aang learning to bend/ master the element water !?
Azula, Ty Lee and Mai is the best trio in the show. they balance each other very well. But in the live action there is no warms or care. Mai and Ty Lee were the two people that Azula trusted with her life. They were her childhood friends, and however toxic, she did care about them. She did want them to be her real friends and you get nothing of that in the live action.
Fr they just stand there doing nothing.
One change I absolute hate is how they made Katara suddenly a great fighter that can go toe to toe with Zuko when she had absolutely no training from a teacher
We watched the animated show all the way through this week. The new Netflix series is EXACTLY as ridiculous as the play the gang watch in season 3.
Honestly, the fact that Azula appears like an adult makes it so much more horrible when you realized she’s the same age as Katara from start to end. She’s terrifying, calculating, and borderline cruel to get what she wants.
This isn’t even Azula anymore with that baby face
the filler episodes in the cartoons are well utilized for character development.
Not to mention a lot of the filler episodes helped fuel a lot of plot points and gave them weight. For example, we spend a lot of time in Omashu in that episode in season 1 and get attached to Bumi. Then in season 2, when we see Omashu is taken over we care. We’re invested to get it back.
Really, the one episode that was entirely filler was "The Great Divide". Everything else set up backstory, character development, or just introduced characters who'd be important in some way later.
Like "Bato of the Water Tribe", we see the first TRUE conflict and fight between the Gaang, Sokka gets recognized as a man by his tribe's customs, Aang gets back Katara's necklace, June is introduced (who will be important for finding Iroh later), Sokka and Katara both truly commit themselves to helping Aang with his journey, and the budding romance between Aang and Katara is advanced a little. Whole bunch of important stuff crammed into what would otherwise be a filler episode.
Bumi: A clever badass, that teaches Aang
Netflix Bumi: A bitter depressed old man that is mad and suicidal
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One thing I find funny about ATLA making the fire lord this mysterious figure in the first few seasons of the animation is that he first just ends up being revealed when Aang gets that drawing of him at the school. 💀💀
The inclusion of Azula, Mai, and Ty Lee felt pointless in season. Mai and Ty Lee were not even mentioned by name.
I hope those two were just the Ember Island actors, especially Mai who looked like a chubby Minecraft character
ok the insulting of mai’s appearance was completely uncalled for and super rude but i agree their inclusion was unnecessary. the thing that bothered me about their appearance was that they just stood there and waited for azula to speak it’s like they had no real purpose being there. they could have shown off their personality with how they were positioned like ty lee could have been doing handstands or cartwheels and made light hearted quips while mai could have been sitting off to the side looking bored and sounding disinterested so at least they would be characterized but we got nothing but exposition
@@darao.4907 commenting on mai's or even azula's appearance is not rude.
we can all agree that a side effect of being fast and agile is looking thin/slender.
@@chickenporkadob0bro what? He’s not just insulting a fictional character’s appearance, but an actual person’s appearance. That’s extremely rude.
@@trafficcone7344 so how can he comment about it without being "insulting"?
@@chickenporkadob0 by not calling her a “chubby Minecraft character”? Why is that even a question?
Jet is now just a psychopath. In the animation, he had a legitimate moral position. He wanted to enact damage upon the fire nation, with the issue being his indiscriminate methodology. He was wrong in a humanitarian sense, but at least you could understand why someone might think that way. In the live action, he's just straight up murdering earth kingdom nationals for unspecified political reasons. There's no way to interpret him as anything but evil and power hungry. Also, how the hell were they in his secret forest base when it was so difficult to get into omashu, which is in the mountains?! Where the hell was his base??
That’s literally what I was thinking! Like it would’ve been unlikely for them to leave Omashu…
Jet felt more like a Psychopath for me in the Animation version than the live action. And unspecified political reasons??? Bruh...
1. He tried to kill the mechanist because he thought he was spying for the fire nation, which is in fact true. He had solid reasons to kill the mechanist and Omashu was already falling apart.
2. His base setup was smth I disliked too. I loved how they lived on the trees in the OG. But here, his base setup is literally INSIDE Omashu. His comrades are fighting to protect Omashu, even if it means weeding out their 'weak' king. He mentions that they're constantly on the move within the walls of Omashu and they're just camping there for a long time.
as if killing the king wont throw omashu into chaos. thats what LA jet is all about and its crazy that ppl like u support it lol @@jadythemovielover7417
Bro why are you holding back, be unapologetically true, I feel you are holding your honest disappointment just to not upset some of your viewers. I think as a fan of the original series, you make solid points that are undeniable and hold true. I believe you could have ripped deeper into the intricacies of the entire show but just like Uncle Iroh was too forgiving to a fault I might say. Your critic is absolutely right, so say what you got to say. I would have agreed with you 100% and more if you would have not bended your frustration just so that you can appease the UA-cam algorithm. Any how I can understand how tough it can be for you as a creator of content and hold the line so who am I to judge. But bless you! I wish the next time you unhinge those invisible chains that bind you and go Rock Lee like he did against Gara in the upcoming videos! Cheers mate!
i don't have netflix so i haven't watched but i just recently rewatched the original and felt all the same range of emotions i've felt every single time. from what i've seen, the people who wrote this adaptation either have never watched the original show, or only watched very key episodes once they got the green light to make a live-action version :/
June's subplot should not have been there ... but she is just such a hottie that I don't care.
well the creators left after 2 episode and this what happens
unlike One Piece, the creator made sure he is in control
You all need to remember that one piece anime isnt perfect...it has horrible pacing ..unlike the original avatar...which set the standard too high
@@Sansastories 😂 ... horrible? Like what the hell do u know about making a movie?
This is legit bro.
This moments made me scratch my head a few times watching this adaptation.
Nailed everything I also had an issue with 👍 especially destroying azula and rushing 3 episodes into one. Secret tunnel had to be played but they screwed that up big time too
Kataras character I feel was butchered the most
1. Mischaracterization of almost every character.
2. Misunderstanding of the plot and its themes.
3. Needless hostility between almost every character and faction that wasn't present in the original.
4. Forced identity politics.
5. The cast of Azula, Mai and Ty Lee.
6. The Gaang making their greatest developments separate from each other rather than together.
7. The blending of stories that really needed to be left isolated since they were crucial for character development like the Cave of Two Lovers.
8. The misconception that more violence = more mature. More graphic violence doesn't substitute for mature writing.
9. Aang not waterbending once in a book called WATER (this ties into flaws #1 and #2).
10. The mistreatment of Roku and Aang in favor of giving Kyoshi more of a spotlight. She literally just took Roku's place and took away Aang's character development doing it because she solved his problems rather than nobody solving his problems which thus forced him to mature and own up to his role as the Avatar in the original.
Honestly now that I'm writing a top 10, I suddenly realize I'd need a top 50 just to list the worst of it. It's hard to choose. And the more I think about it, the worse it gets and the more flaws I can see.
It's really cool that people came to cherish this LA show even though writing flaws and inconsistencies were apparent compared to the original. I'll leave it there if they feel that way.
But it clearly had a stupendous amount of missing the point it's almost criminal. And I agree there's still so much to point out in this top 10 list.
Add an 11
Zuko almost beating Ozai when he was thirdteen.
"forced identity politics"
lmao
@@LizaFan What would you call them gender swapping Oma to make the first earthbenders a lesbian couple? What would you call them practically replacing Roku's role in the series with Kyoshi? This is a $120M production that's six years in the making. You think those were accidents? They never are in products like these.
@@TheStraightestWhitestnah, the Oma and Shu change is laughable, but mostly harmless, it's a way more serious mistake that the Cave of Two Lovers was in the show at all.
Also about Kyoshi it's more akin to fan service than identity politics, they wanted to feature more Avatars right of the bat, don't forget Kuruk was there too, and did so at the expense of Roku.
I dont think katara was literally referring emotions in reference to the badger moles i think shes was trying to say navigate by feeling the earth because they are blind like toph in that case it would have been better if she said touch. And the secret tunnel episode is one of the most beloved episodes so it would have been dammed if you just included it by it self or dammed if you didn't due to fan uproar. The series is just too fast to its own detriment.
imagine they had cast people who can actually act