What role did the Ottoman Empire play in shaping European history?
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2021
- Did the Ottoman Empire have a hand in shaping European history? Historically, Christianity and Islam were at opposing ends. But there’s another narrative - one that shows how the Ottoman Empire played a significant role in shaping two of Europe’s most important turning points: the Age of Exploration and the Renaissance.
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that flag, that beautiful flag
hope it waves again
thanks to them. many of us are Muslims because of the ottoman empire
Who Gave The Ottoman Citizenship to David Ben Gurion?
Thank you ottoman
Thanks to them many were massacred
@@mahirshahriar6429 that would happen anyway. Also they didn't mascara as it is prohibited but people do die in war on the battlefield i think? Right?
@@ailediablo79 yes people do die. There’s a difference between war and massacre. And you’re saying ottoman what did was right ? They cleansed Thracian Bulgarians, killing thousands in Armenia, Greece. That’s their legacy not spreading Islam in Europe.
This is also true of the Ummayad Empire and its legacy state: Al Andalus in Spain. These two instances were perfect examples of Islam and Christianity mixing and creating amazing civilizations.
Yes with Christians as footstools.
Most Byzantine refugees including scholars fled to Italy which restarted Greco-Roman arts and sciences interest in Europe and started renaissance.
Ottoman empire was one of the greatest empires of the world history
It was a dictatorship that opprrssed greek Christians and converted their hagia sophia church into a mosque
@@bigbeast3039 what did they to them? Did they killed? Did they forced them to convert? Did they forced them to speak Turkish? All of this didn’t happen. Tell me what did they to them?
Imagine being the kind of lowlife who fetishizes an empire that castrated slaves and kidnapped the children of minorities.
@Hitler was black also killed much more people
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Ottoman empire is last longest Muslim empire
And Russia destroyed them and put them in their place
Suleiman Al kanuni was indeed a brilliant leader.Respect from east Africa
Human trafficking in africa & slave trade under ottoman
@@NRFP Woah, you make the British Empire seem very humane. It isn't like the Atlantic Slave Trade never existed.
@@bushramateen1799 Lol I am not supporter british or eroup.
@@NRFP But what was Islamic Slavery compared to European Slavery. It's not justifiable at all but some might argue that Ottoman (and in essence Islamic) Slavery was way better than European Slavery and it's still an argument whether Ottoman Slavery could even be counted as slavery as concubines became queens and slave Janisarries became Grand Viziers (Prime Ministers) and were treated extremely well and paid well as well.
@@chatterboxtaha6020Slave trade & Slavery related with human trafficking. ottoman slave trade was not islamic slavery. they have largest slave trade.
We are proud descendants of Seljuks and Ottomans ❤️❤️.
Many Turks after seeing this video will start being proud of their rich history even though I'm not a Turk but this is the reason why I love Turkey. Lots of love from Pakistan 🇵🇰♥🇹🇷 Iron Brothers forever till the end of the resurrection 💪🏻
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@vkp If we start with this logic, it is like seeing Japan as a weak state because it has 113 Japanese yen.
important note Japan is the 4th largest economy in the world by world institutions.
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In short : The Ottomans sieged the city of constantinople, which was very important because it lied on the trade route between europe and eastern states, it was also important because it was the capital of the eastern roman empire and contained many of the greek and roman scholars, which were forced to shift to rome and other europian parts, mostly rome (where the renaissance movement began) also it was the seat of the roman empire and contained many of its historical relics and remains, and these things attracted artists and scholars (and led to the renaissance movement, followed by the reformation movement headed by martin luther). Most importantly Ottomans played a key role in the discovery of the americas because after constantinople fell the trade towards the east was also closed, and led to the geographical exploration and we all know that portuguese explorer christopher columbus founded america when he was trying to find the trade route to India.
Yh except I really doubt he was the first to find the Americas.
In fact I seriously doubt it.
But that's how history works some people are given credit some aren't and some people are even cut out of history.
History is a glorified-pseudoscience: Congrats for starting to take baby-steps towards realising that, "@@ah3139".
@@maazkalim I love how people assume things on social media... Dude Ive got a frickin degree in history. All I did was make a comment and you thinking your a Professor of history came talking trash about someone(me) who he doesn't know.
Let alone history you couldn't even interpret my comment properly.
@@maazkalim Therefore just don't be so judgemental in the future.
Uh-huh?!?
So History is suddenly a person now?
Bwahahahahah!
It's amusing you needed 2 comments to conjure something so fing delirious.
Lmao turks trying to claim credit for Spain & Portugals conquest of the seas
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Ottoman Empire is real hero of Islam
Never..they did both good or bad...
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Not israel you hasbera troll and by the way i think 80% of palestians like palestine more than israel
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We don't! See the symbols of your flag... What it's means... You understand why? The Turks didn't forget 1916...Sykes - Picot agrément !!! Colonial child!
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During the reign of Ottoman dynasty, they played a significant role in war, development in art, literature and establishing their economy or else European countries wouldn't being forced to explore around the world in search for trade especially for British colonialism.
The length of this video suits it's title. (1)4:53 (Conquest of Istanbul).
"If the earth would be a single state,Istanbul will be its capital"__Napoleon Bonaparte.
I'm pretty sure it was called constantinople then even though Istanbul was the common name from it coming from Greek 'to the city' its official name didn't change till the ottoman empire collapsed(I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure that its right)
@@crusaderknights1433 It is Istanbul, get over it Crusader.
@@phoenixgrove it is now but not always that's what I was saying people in western Europe called it constantinople up until the Turkish government changed it officially
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The Age of Exploration: By closing the land route to the Far East and the Indies, forcing Europeans to seek an Atlantic Ocean route.
The Renaissance: Collecting for Europe, and particularly for the diferent Italian states, the Byzantine refugees who brought part of the ancient and Hellenistic knowledge back to Western Europe and which was in the great collections and libraries of Constantinople.
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Turks are so proud of their *colonialism* of Europe
Meanwhile they criticize Europe for their colonialism
*Hypocrisy 101*
We never colonized Europe, as you claimed. We conquered it, but protected the dignity of peoples with their beliefs, languages, faiths and cultures. However, you exploited Africa, Americas and Asia with your unsatisfactory mercantilism and capitalism. If the Ottomans had colonized Europe, then half of Europe would have to speak Turkish and become Muslims now. We remained in Europe 500 years, but changed nothing in cultures and structures of the societies. Your grandfathers occupied Africa, and people there started to speak French, English, Dutch and Portugese in 50 years as well as were forced to be converted into the Catholiscism. Hypocrisy is your character and habit, not of the Turks. Turks are the Sword of God and ruled the half of the civilized world from the Great China Wall to the Inner Europe and the Sahara with peace and justice for centuries. So, read history carefully and just shut up !
@@esrefyalnklcl6500 " we didn't colonized it, we conquered it"
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
hypocrisy 101 = Turkish main trait
To colonize you have to conquer. You are trying to get away from responsibility just by using sintax? Not that easy.
Apologize for the Armenian genocide btw
@@nostro1940 Yeah, when you were bravadoing over stone tip spear using natives of various lands with muskets and steel, making them bow down to you as some gods, we were busy making you our *forced laborers* in plantations and harems.
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA turks didn't get to anatolia after the 11th Century 😂😂😂😂😂
@@nostro1940 Yeah and we took it by the right of arms. So?
Then why were you forcefully converting Jews, Parsis and Christians into Islam😂😂
So true. More of this kind of content please
Ottoman Empire have to Europe order and above all else stability one can see that the Balkans and much of South Eastern Europe lived in Peace prior to WWI which were caused by British/French/Prussian/Austro-Hungarian/Russian Empires. The Ottoman’s doctrine of equality for all evoked the very essence of the Ottoman Rule one that promoted competence and virtue rather than family/social standing and ethnic/religious prejudices. Many Ottoman Pasha’s were Arabs especially when delegating power on to the various provinces of Ottoman Empire. Ertuğrul the very first founder of Ottoman Empire was a man of Vision and above all of equality for his tribe the Kayì Tribe which in short time dominated the Byzantines and took the entirety of Anatolia from the Black Sea to the Caspian.
"Lived in peace prior to the WWI"
Yeah... are you sure about that?
-First and Second Balkan war;
-Serbo-Bulgarian war;
-Russo-turkish war of 1877-78, which was fought from Bosnia to Bulgaria by Christians against the Ottomans;
-Greek revolution;
First and Second Serbian uprisings...
There's more ofc, those were just some of the major ones
However Ertuğrul never founded the empire officially. You seem to forget the reason why the ottomans were called Osmanlı.
If you mean ethnic cleansing is “peace” than yeah
1:01 very accurate placements of Serbia and Bosnia 💯 definitely 👍
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Nice video. Plz make such information more often.
The point about the age of exploration is well known, why is trt world acting like it’s some covered up secret? It’s common knowledge Europeans looked west for spices (and ended up in the Americas) due to the ottomans cutting of their trade routes with the spice trade. This isn’t some secret like insinuated in this video, it’s common knowledge
idk but i in italy i was never taught the ottoman part, i think that might be the reason, some schools may not teach that.
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Its such a shame that Beyazid banned printing presses and other educational sources otherwise The Muslims would have been very developed. They just focused on millitary.
He didn't actually. He just prohibited for Koran to be printed(Maniscripting were allowed). It is just that muslims, especially us, Turks, didn't prefer to read. Mongol invasion technically drained the brain power and the need for it of the muslims unfortunately.
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 u should check it again. Beyazid banned the printing press. It's wasn't the fault of the people. The Sultans wanted the people to remain poor and uneducated so that he could rule over them.
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 first Printing press was opened in 1700s. First Printing press in ottoman colonies was brought by the French invaders when they invaded Egypt. It's the fault of the Sultans.
@@Furioushunter Not really. The Porte didn't bother to educate people, for they couldn't understand the need for mass-education back then. They had their Enderun and Salatin schools for the bureucrats they require and that was that is needed according to them. The French, however, forced the population to be educated in the French language and worldview. As a side note, nope, printing press was not banned. The Greeks and Armenians had their own printing houses in Konstantiniye way before the first published books in Ottoman literary language or Arabic became popular.
@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 How will the People educate themselves when the Sultan Banned the Printing press in 1455??? Check this in any source, he banned it and the only printing press was opened in 1700s. It wasn't the People's fault. The autocrats wanted to rule over uneducated people so that they could be never toppled.
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Fascinating perspective on the Ottomans and their contribution to European history. The Ottoman certainly had a hand in shaping the Balkans. The ethnic conflicts in the 1990s among the former Yugoslavian states divided along ethnic lines especially along religious lines. The Serbians and their Orthodox Christian heritage with Russia, the Catholics of Croatia (Catholic Poles who were not part of Southern Slavic but rather Western Slavs), and the minority Muslims. The brutality and acts of genocide reminded Europeans of NAZI Germany. The host of this program quotes many academics and their praise of Ottoman influence. What is clear is that a few Western countries went through the Renaissance. The host also carelessly use words like the Ottomans contributed to "science" in the 16th century. The specific process of scientific analysis was not defined until the middle of the 17th century by an Englishman and a Frenchman. Science did not exist in the 16th century. In fact, today most people do not understand the concrete and demanding nature of the scientific process which why mass media make ridiculous claims and most people just go along with it. The Ottoman probably did force the Portuguese and Spanish to search for an ocean route to trade with Asia. As the Ottoman effectively dominated the region where the Silk Road trade passed through. The Ottoman leadership was basically a military leader. His authority to lead is determined by his Janissary Army and Navy and their ability to impose the Ottoman Sultan's will. This is the absolute power of warrior kings that existed throughout the world. The political leaders get their authority from their armed forces. If you do not follow their directions then you will be tortured or executed. As a result, such political leaders only recognize military prowess as their paramount concerns. Everything else including the people they rule are a distant second. By WWI the stagnant nature of the Ottoman Empire became obvious. The Sultan was only concerned with his military. Modern Republics (division of political power through checks and balances) and their democratically elected representatives kept advancing forward and had surpassed the stagnant and backward societies of Monarchy. During WWI we see the Ottoman, Austrian, German, Russian monarchies defeated and removed from power. France had shed the royalists after their embarrassing defeat to Bismarck and the Prussian Army in 1871. Great Britain had limited its monarchy with a constitution since the late 17th century. The British monarchy reigned but did not rule. By WWI the British Parliament ruled the UK and the populous elected the members of Parliament. The Americans (first Republicans in human history) enter the conflict late in WWI, and would emerge as the most developed and industrialized country in the world. The Republicans revealed themselves as the dominant force in the world. Soon many countries would call themselves "republics." But there are less than ten true Republics in the world today. Most countries are ruled by totalitarian governments with absolute power and no Rule of Law. Their authority to rule is determined by their military. So these governments pour their resources into their military while their society and therefore people remain backwards. The authorities of monarchs or the authority of absolute power still dominate the rest of the world today. While the true Republics continue to surge pass the pretenders.
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OTTOMAN EMPIRE WILL RISE AGAIN 🇹🇷 INSHALLAH
0:58 wtf happened to the west bank? it's a sea now?
the lake was bigger, i think it's called tabris or tabriya
@@qotaibai5112 tiberias but thats not in the west bank either
@@prajodcp7145 its above it
@@qotaibai5112 if you notice the map shows the part of west bank (precisely) in blue
So shortly you say that the otuman tribute to Europe was the Europeans hate word the otumans
A bunch, they were in europe for a long time
It is safe to say that when the Ottoman flame faded the rest of the orders of Europe fell with them. Today what we see is but a pale reflection of what used to be Imperial civilization. In fact real civilization is not to be found in choice itself but the ethics and wisdom that guides those choices. Otherwise it is a mere illusion of choice that is orchestrated by those with money and vested interest.
Vienna!
The reason why the Ottomans lost the Battle of Vienna was because the weather was very cold. Otherwise, the Ottomans could have won and conquered Vienna, because the Ottoman army was one of the strongest armies in the world at that time.
Weather was just one of the reasons of its defeat.
As the other said, weather was only another reason. We're talking about the polish hussars here, these guys were the elite of the elite
@@senseishu937 ıt was majority german army who defeated ottomans at vienna and only because of of ottomans caught by suprise because of tatars left the battle
This Anchor's English pronunciation needs to be improved TRT
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@@vDeepak_ you praise British india? Aren’t they the reason why india is a shithole today?
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It seems you forgot to mention al-Andalus for proeminent philosophical and scientificité legacy to launch european Renaissance. Btw expelled jews went massively to Morroco which never been ottoman. The for fact checking
No. Because he only talk about Ottoman role. Look at the title
Please dubbed in urdu please
1:00 the position of Bosnia and Herzegovina is wrong
Ottoman Empire only did one thing "World War 2". Not even expecting more than that from Turkey.
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Well , that video is ballsh*t , the age of exploration because Portugal didn't want to traded with Mamalks (Egypt) so they went to find another way , age of renesisone would happened other way , ottoman destroyed in potential development in north Africa by isolation and taking all the talented craftsmen and scientists, same idiotic idea that diversity make nations powerful when is total wrong , most powerful in the world were the hemogency nations , diverse nations like Yugoslavia, mughil empire in India , Austria Hungary and ottoman empire.
What terible music is playing on background.too loud
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The great ottoman empire
Lolllllllllllllll . Lira is crumbling and Turkey is FATF greylist for supporting therorism but no let's talk Auto Man empire 😂😂😂😇😇😅
Gaaaaaaay sri raaaam
still better than 200 indian hindos soldiers killed by chinese in border clashes with sticks and stones lol lol lol
Russian czars??? There is an element of militant ignorance in Turkey, among both liberals and conservatives, that is disconcerting. Otherwise an excellent little report.
Ottoman lost Vienna twice DECISIVELY
In 1529
In 1683
Enough said
@@kahtapahddubarp they were got f*cked at battle of parkany; their king run away from battle only to saved by austrian relief force who came his aid and drove ottomans back. their king was nearly dying without austrian german help
@@kahtapahddubarp lmao they didnt beat suleimans forces at 1529 ; suleiman only abandon siege because of heavy storm and snowfall; suleiman returned from viena with 120.000 slaves hahahahahaha ; he buldozed entire towns and villages arround vienna hahahahaha . also deffenders suffered heavy casualities. landsknechts were easily crushed by janissary at battle of buda 1541 .
@@mustafaaghathejanissary1415 john Sobieski with a force of 27,000 decisively crushed the ottomans at parkany that’s the reason why he’s called saviour of Europe and a Christian hero
@@mustafaaghathejanissary1415 and in 1529 not everyone is mehmet al fatih who can break walls 😅😂🤣 had mehmet fought in Vienna it would’ve been a different story but at the end sully couldn’t get the job done 😎😎😎
Oh....Europe ever had a history?? They were naked and no language to communicate while Asians were most cosmopolitan and civilized!!
It is said Greece is the cradle of "Western Civilization" and we know it started with occupying Asia and Africa and stealing their ideas as well as resources
Two embarrassing comments. Just because you hate Europe doesn’t mean you should change history to suit your hatred
WTF are you on about? why you telling lies for? 😂😂😂😂
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Never mind the Ottoman...the Gokturks are back. They are coming with unfinish business.
Everything
The world needs that empire again to teach justice to the top 5
*@Manist.* As long as it does not give birth to another _Young Turds_ and _Mustamason Kamal._ Those two are the main cause of its demise. Internal virus kills quicker than the external one.
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Islamic Golden Age is incomplete without Sulaiman the Magneficent
The Ottoman monopoly haha
Not so good to be honest.
Is This a news or a history class?? 😵
Battle of Haifa.
Where Indian soldiers kicked the Ottomans in their face.
They kicked the ottomans by singing and worhsipping cow as their gods. Thats very brilliant of you
@@phoenixhub4454 Truth is bitter my frnd. Just go through history. It is in present day Israel. There is a war monument also.
And worshipping Cow is far better than funding Terror & getting Grey Listed.
@@m.b.8519 unless you dont know who is funding them just because your busy worshipping a cow that cant even wiped its poop how stupid you are
Hindu have six schools of thought.where islam is a scat Muhammad is a pedophile
Love the islamic Ottoman Empire
allahuakbar
Isn't the Ottoman a footstool?
please get out of nato and free the holy land
Ottoman empire were playing THE BEST ROLE !
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Because Hindus were cultured.islam is scat Muhammad is a pedophile
It wasn’t Mehmet whom Rasulullah (S) praised but Imam Mahdi (A) who shall conquer Constantinople in the end times.
They [the Muslims] will then fight and a third of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah’s eye, would be killed, and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople’ [Sahih Muslim]
‘The great Malhamah, the conquest of Constantinople, and the coming of the Dajjal occur in (the span of) seven months.’ [al Tirmidhi, abu Dawud]
‘They will conquer Constantinople with Tasbih and Takbir and will acquire such spoils of war as has never been seen before.’ [Ibn Majah]
It is clear that these prophesies don't match that of the Ottoman invasion of Constantinople.
The most famous Islamic contemporary scholars and the historians who lived during the time of the conquest of Constantinople such as Al-Suyuti, Al-Sakhawi, Ibn Al-Imad mentioned about the Ottoman commander Mehmet Fatih in their books describing his conquests, but they never associated him with Prophet Mohammed’s (peace be upon him) prophecies about the conquest of Constantinople.
The Hadith scholars like Imam Abu Dawood - author of Sunan, Imam Ahmad - author of Musnad Ahmad, and Imam Ibn Majah mentioned the reason for the conquest of Constantinople, that is-first the Muslims and Romans will make a strong alliance to fight a third enemy, then the Romans will betray, which will lead to the fierce fight between Muslims and the Romans at a place called Al-Ghouta, that will eventually lead to Al-Malhamah and the conquest of Constantinople.
Will it rise again it is very difficult because now the Turks are following the western culture womens are half nude men on liquor , pop, party , etc they are deeply addicted on it but some of them fight with imam Alahmdulillah now some historical web series make them back i hope they over comes from the western culture and back to the islamic Ottoman culture especially women in the period of ottoman they are fully covered and fight like worrior today half nude astafirullah
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@Jan West that's fact brother i have nothing do with it if it's hurt you i am sorry for that brother
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@@delmanorshun2471 form tha land our grate father Adam (a.s) Landed
Voltaire summed up entire turkish ottoman in one of his letter
Wasn’t he the guy that wanted Jewish people to be killed?
Erdogan showing himself as a leader of Islamic world 🤣🤣🤣 but actually he is a joker pretend to be a great leader of ottoman empire... 🤣🤣🤣By the way Pakistan congratulating to TURKEY for joining in grey list... will work hard together for black list ❤️❤️❤️
If Suleman had crossed the Danube, we might all be speaking Turkish 😉
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Well, the Ottomans created the never ending mess that is todays Balkans.Thx for nothing...
Nothing good, like any empire
Ottoman slavery
That's why
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Turned Caucasian
Yep
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Over proud? Its nothing compared to Mongolian empire which slaugtherd ottoman teritory
Allahuakbar
Hail Mughaliya.
Hail Ottoman Empire.
Make India Islamic again 😎
wtf bro
From Ottoman empire to Terrorist empire 😂
Ghazwa e Hind zindabad !
@@historianslair4971 Pakistani comes to help their Father 😂😂, How is the IMF and Saudi Arabia bhikh, bhikaristan
Turkey is going to be the new EU memeber after Erdogan is gone.
Europe is going to be garbage by the time Erdogan is gone 😄
Actually Turks regardless of Erdo lost interest in EU but now are looking for a stronger Turan union but not religious but Turkic. Ottomans failed due to religion holding them back.
Definitely not
@@naturealbums well I can see where you getting that's has high probability however I see the political dynamic in central Asia is highly different to like that of Turkey i see same in Azerbaijan the political dynamic there matches russia more then it does turkey, while turkey political dynamic similar to Europe you can strike great similarities in what's happening in Poland Hungary and turkey. And also strike great similarities between Russia central Asia and Azerbaijan.
Why would a middle eastern country be in EU???