I’ll never understand the method of blowing by a hydrant then having your firefighter hump a LD supply line back to it. Why not catch the hydrant on the way in? Work smart, not hard.
Indisputably dramatic events, but also great video... Good quality, excellent angles, great shots... I feel sorry for the folks who lost their home, but I can't help it if I appreciate the view...!
I feel so bad for that family, especially because for whatever reason the fire wasn't able to be put out right away and it caused more damage and totaled the house.
As a firefighter in MN watching this the fire had to been going for awhile in the coft loft of that house for to break through the roof so fast. And yeah I've seen like about 8 different things I would've done if I was IC on scene or the first engine on scene.
Forward lays are always nice, sometimes in larger cities one engine has already established lines prior to others arriving. That first engine stretches their lines. As the number of lines increases it is hard for one to meet the demand, which may require another engine laying in. Which might be the result of the FF running the LDH back to a hydrant. Depending on the water pressure nice to have another pumping water, especially if they had an apparatus malfunction or something, nice backup.
@@PreservationEnthusiastdeck gun where at?! Looks like an attic fire self venting on the c side, how tf you going to get a deck gun in operation? You’ve never worked a fire in your life, stay in the comment section
@@cjritchie9701 Put the wet stuff on the red stuff. It's not that difficult. Blast the flames with the master stream! They could have steamed the blaze in 2 minutes and saved the house. Instead there were 50 of them walking around aimlessly trying to look cool with the sirens going and everyone posing about trying to look clever and nobody actually *putting the fire out* getting the *cold stuff on the warm stuff!!*
@@PreservationEnthusiast but that’s not true at all, you have no clue what is going on on the inside, master streams would of have the same effect as pulling a line to address the attic head on. And if you don’t know why there are men “standing around” then I shouldn’t be arguing with you, basic fire 1 shit, a lot of those men are on stand by, ready to be switched out with other company’s. Ever heard of RIT? Come on guy
In all fairness to the first in FF's, they did go in the front door with a hoseline looking for some fire to put water on. What they didn't know was the fire was upstairs and already in the attic when they arrived.
just want to say i have just recently seen a house fire down my street. everyone wasnt hoe and they were able to rescue the dog. god bless the firefighters who put their lives on the line . !! we luv you and support you.
ok for those who are complaining about the speed. 1. no one inside no rush for resuce 2. house is beyond saving at this point no use in overlooking something and gettting a fire fighter killed. when you rush into a fire and dont take the time to view the whole picture people get killed.
Alot of people don't realize the first in crews were inside pulling ceiling and keeping the fire confined to the attic. in the beggining of the video the crews masking up at the front door were inside throughout the duration of the video. Though firefighters watching this video well know there isn't a high save on this house fire like this, also shows how quickly attic fires can move. With what the first on crews were presented with, i feel like i was a good stop in my opinion.
At first, I thought the firefighters were a little slow getting water on the fire, however, at the end of the video you can tell that the fire was somewhat contained to the attic area so maybe waiting until they had everything ready to go was the best course of action.
I couldnt even imagine what it would be like to see your home on fire, God be with all those who have to endure such tragedy. I really wish I could have made it on the FD, all of you firefighters are heroes, wether you want to be or not. God bless you guys and gals!!
Dont you people see that in the last 10yrs house fires have gotten alot worse the fires are bigger and more damage.This due to trus floors,trus roofs and large open floor plans. The days of 1 or 2 rooms are over if your home was built in the last 10-12 years and your home catches fire this is what are going to face.Its the new wave of disaster. Your fire dept could be next door and it wont matter
I am disapointed to see that the interior crews had no second story means of egress... The second or even thrid in company could have assisted them by throwing some ladders to the A side of the structure and possibly the D side. Truckies are not the only ones allowed to touch ladders. They are on the peices for a reason, use them. And on another note, since when are traffic safety vests structure fire rated by NFPA? Good way to get yourself hurt if would have went in. Overall, job well done guys
the same thing happened to me, Was having a bbq until the gas pipe leaked and caught a fire. Hopefully the fire brigade came on time before it touched the wooden part of the roof.
It amazes me howUS firefighters just seem to stand looking at the fire for what seems ages before tackling it. U.K. firefighters are on the job the moment they arrive.
Yeah they just waste time making holes or just wander around. They need to get the deck gun on immediately to reduce the heat. In the UK you will see the immediate application of water. The UK crews try to save the house whereas the US ones seem to like a controlled burn.
They should have layed in first of all with the hydrant line then get those attack lines charged quicker that ladder should have been raised over the roof to get a good angle of attack with the water
just want to say i have just recently seen a house fire down my street. not as bad as this but the smoke smell is waeful and heat is soo intense we were across the street watching. i cant imagine what its like to hav to go through that. i hope it never happens to me and my family .everyone wasnt home and they were able to rescue the dog. god bless the firefighters who put their lives on the line . !! we luv you and support you.
Whole lot of line pulling w/ little water being applied at first, just a thought aerials work really well if u set them up? Big fire = big water 💦 master streams, screw the 1 3/4 hand lines 2 1/2’s. If u delay on these fires your gonna lose it! Departments need to be really aggressive.
Number 1 priority is life safety, incident stabilization, and property conservation. Got to remember that its someones stuff burning and go in and get the job done.
It did take a long time to get water on it. But it looked like the fire was in the attic and hard to get to. Not that they didn't try. Plenty of lines off.
When they hear on the radio smoke showing, they should be in full gear upon arrival, not standing in the front yard putting on head gear @ 1:25. Then why they didnt drop the 5" line at the hydrant then proceed?
It takes a little more time to move real firehoses. Those little garden hoses you use there don't take any particular skill to use. Especially when you don't go in.
We run three man engine companies, with the next due units typically one to two minutes behind us. We are of the mind set to make an aggressive interior attack off tank while having next due lay into the first arriving engine. Plus.....our Engineers are VERY capable of securing their own water supply if within 150', we do this routinely. If the fire is clearly defensive from the start we would lay in. Also it is 4".....not a big deal if you train that way.....our Engineers do.
@dazzlingD9296 Yep its a scary thing to witness. I've seen a few fires around my neighborhood and it makes me scared something like that will happen. I often have dreams that my house caught on fire and it has me on edge the whole day after. I remember one in particular that happened on a hot summer night. and smoke from a house fire a few blocks away managed to come in through my windows. jumped up outta bed and ran through every room and checked outside 2 see if it was from my house.
I know of a safe way to protect other exposures. If you're a good firefighter, you'll first protect the neighboring exposures before hitting the fire directly.
Nice house but it burns like hell. The house is build with wood instead with stones and firewalls. Also the fire trucks are slow with putting water on the fire.
All in all they did a great job; especially in an unoccupied structure no reason to rush and take unnecessary risks to save a bureau. The only thing I would do differently is lay in from the hydrant instead of making a guy haul the line back to the hydrant? just drop him there with a hydrant wrap.
I’ll never understand the method of blowing by a hydrant then having your firefighter hump a LD supply line back to it. Why not catch the hydrant on the way in? Work smart, not hard.
Not using common sense too raped up in the moment, stop and smell the roses s.
@@garyreed5985 Actually,I think you meant “wrapped” in the moment..not “Raped” in the moment😂😂😂
What camera do you have? It shoots great quality!
Thanks for posting the video - interesting and helpful to see the reality and timing of coming on scene
it sucks to see people's lives go up in smoke
Indisputably dramatic events, but also great video... Good quality, excellent angles, great shots... I feel sorry for the folks who lost their home, but I can't help it if I appreciate the view...!
Nice home in a nice neighborhood. Sad. Glad no one was hurt. That's most important.
how is this not in HD if you shot on the 7D? I have the exact same camera and all my video are 1080p.
I know nothing about being a Fireman but y did it take so long to start putting out the fire..curious
What cause the fire in that house?
That sucks for the owners of that house. Do you know what caused the fire?
I feel so bad for that family, especially because for whatever reason the fire wasn't able to be put out right away and it caused more damage and totaled the house.
Either way, I would rather a full burn than a partial. Easier and cleaner to rebuild ground up.
define right away
As a firefighter in MN watching this the fire had to been going for awhile in the coft loft of that house for to break through the roof so fast. And yeah I've seen like about 8 different things I would've done if I was IC on scene or the first engine on scene.
Same im a fire fighter in texas
Yeah Gary....those coft loft fires are tough.....jeez.
Where in Minnesota? I’m from maple grove
How awful it must be to watch your home burn. The helpless feeling of seeing all your worked for go up like that.
Forward lays are always nice, sometimes in larger cities one engine has already established lines prior to others arriving. That first engine stretches their lines. As the number of lines increases it is hard for one to meet the demand, which may require another engine laying in. Which might be the result of the FF running the LDH back to a hydrant. Depending on the water pressure nice to have another pumping water, especially if they had an apparatus malfunction or something, nice backup.
@93CFD guessing from your username, your from cleveland, OH? i got family on the department there, and have seen what they can do. Great department.
excellent video..Great Job Filming This Fire!!!!!!!!!
I’ve watched hundreds of fires, and it always seems they show up and 90% of the time it take minutes to get any water on the fire.
They usually waste a lot of time making holes and just walking around.
They need to get the deck gun on it right away to reduce the heat.
Lol you try dragging a 2 1/2 20 yards.
Yes it does take time
@@PreservationEnthusiastdeck gun where at?! Looks like an attic fire self venting on the c side, how tf you going to get a deck gun in operation? You’ve never worked a fire in your life, stay in the comment section
@@cjritchie9701 Put the wet stuff on the red stuff. It's not that difficult. Blast the flames with the master stream! They could have steamed the blaze in 2 minutes and saved the house.
Instead there were 50 of them walking around aimlessly trying to look cool with the sirens going and everyone posing about trying to look clever and nobody actually *putting the fire out* getting the *cold stuff on the warm stuff!!*
@@PreservationEnthusiast but that’s not true at all, you have no clue what is going on on the inside, master streams would of have the same effect as pulling a line to address the attic head on. And if you don’t know why there are men “standing around” then I shouldn’t be arguing with you, basic fire 1 shit, a lot of those men are on stand by, ready to be switched out with other company’s. Ever heard of RIT? Come on guy
what time did this happen
Kind of ridiculous how long it took them to get water on the fire. That department needs to train their firefighters better.
In all fairness to the first in FF's, they did go in the front door with a hoseline looking for some fire to put water on. What they didn't know was the fire was upstairs and already in the attic when they arrived.
Not a bad choice of color for visibility, so long as it doesn't snow in your community. Wouldn't work in Minneapolis, for example.
@PrincessOfEdenia Wrong, those hoses do not weigh 130 lbs without water. Not all hoses are the same dia.
wow ive nevr seen or experienced a house fire before. i dont think i ever want to. were the people that lived their ok?
this video broke my heart as it was close to christmas. i just hope no one was home at the time.
Those trees in the front yard are the same color as the flames.
Wow. A week before Christmas. That sucks. I just hope that no one was hurt. That is the most important thing.
Funny the way the guy holding the camera jumped at 6:29 when the fire truck hit his horn.
Nether horns are really loud ! Hehee I knew a guy with in his truck.
I always ask myself if the scene would look any different if it was the fire chief's house.
Hey buddy, which way do you turn the valve to make the water come out?
You have to ask, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that's a hoot. DA
just want to say i have just recently seen a house fire down my street. everyone wasnt hoe and they were able to rescue the dog. god bless the firefighters who put their lives on the line . !! we luv you and support you.
what is it with usa firefighters so slow at getting water on the fire
@dallaspolo - read the title - videop was posted in March but the fire happened a week before christmas.
ok for those who are complaining about the speed. 1. no one inside no rush for resuce 2. house is beyond saving at this point no use in overlooking something and gettting a fire fighter killed. when you rush into a fire and dont take the time to view the whole picture people get killed.
@wrkn258 That's good to know. It's still sad but at least no one was hurt or killed, and obviously houses can be rebuilt and things can be replaced.
Rather amazing the flames could be so huge and yet no apparent damage at front of the house.
3:40 Is that 177?
Alot of people don't realize the first in crews were inside pulling ceiling and keeping the fire confined to the attic. in the beggining of the video the crews masking up at the front door were inside throughout the duration of the video. Though firefighters watching this video well know there isn't a high save on this house fire like this, also shows how quickly attic fires can move. With what the first on crews were presented with, i feel like i was a good stop in my opinion.
Nice comeback mate,i like it!
@nsvfdfirefighter617 why is that ?
At first, I thought the firefighters were a little slow getting water on the fire, however, at the end of the video you can tell that the fire was somewhat contained to the attic area so maybe waiting until they had everything ready to go was the best course of action.
Or, it’s a giant 21/2 story house, takes time to find the fire + advance. I just don’t think you know shit about fire fighting
awsome fire, and well filmed
That's so sad that it was a few days before Christmas!
Unoccupied???????? I guess you didn't notice the xmass decorations
ummmmm why not use the arial?
Shortly after this video, the fire went defensive. We had partial roof collapse and abandon structure. Stick went up following.......
Looks like this one was hot and fast. Was it arson?
A week before christmas, the kids must have been so upset although to be able to survive a fire like that is enough of a christmas present for me!
I couldnt even imagine what it would be like to see your home on fire, God be with all those who have to endure such tragedy. I really wish I could have made it on the FD, all of you firefighters are heroes, wether you want to be or not. God bless you guys and gals!!
Any possible suspects in connection to this Fire?
Dont you people see that in the last 10yrs house fires have gotten alot worse the fires are bigger and more damage.This due to trus floors,trus roofs and large open floor plans. The days of 1 or 2 rooms are over if your home was built in the last 10-12 years and your home catches fire this is what are going to face.Its the new wave of disaster. Your fire dept could be next door and it wont matter
To combat this the large floor plan - homes in many areas are required to have sprinklers
Bob Givens today's fires are a lot worse because of open concept living space,people are to into entertaining people then they are about safety.
Damn nice looking home, shame it was on fire
i wonder if this house had a residential sprinkler
I am disapointed to see that the interior crews had no second story means of egress... The second or even thrid in company could have assisted them by throwing some ladders to the A side of the structure and possibly the D side. Truckies are not the only ones allowed to touch ladders. They are on the peices for a reason, use them. And on another note, since when are traffic safety vests structure fire rated by NFPA? Good way to get yourself hurt if would have went in. Overall, job well done guys
This was well-filmed
Hope everyone's ok
There is a lot of fuel load in there. There is some kind of abnormal fuel load in there. Gas leak maybe
the same thing happened to me, Was having a bbq until the gas pipe leaked and caught a fire.
Hopefully the fire brigade came on time before it touched the wooden part of the roof.
awsome video wow, very clear!
I had a house in 2015 that was a total loss
kinda surprised nobody bothered to grab a garden hose or something till they arrived with the big hoses
was that the owner at 3
:33
Interesting approach to the attic. I would have gotten that ladder pipe working, tho.
It amazes me howUS firefighters just seem to stand looking at the fire for what seems ages before tackling it. U.K. firefighters are on the job the moment they arrive.
Yeah they just waste time making holes or just wander around. They need to get the deck gun on immediately to reduce the heat. In the UK you will see the immediate application of water. The UK crews try to save the house whereas the US ones seem to like a controlled burn.
@Skankpronger ya good thinking... run into a burning house filled with smoke and a garden hose, try it sometime and let us know how it worked for ya
why does it take them minutes to get water on the house gosh this is depressing
They should have layed in first of all with the hydrant line then get those attack lines charged quicker that ladder should have been raised over the roof to get a good angle of attack with the water
what a shame, beautiful house. hope everyone was ok
the way that fire was puffing there was no way to get it out
well done by the IC, good knock down.
I beg to differ. The change in the color of the smoke being emitted indicates to me that a crew were inside making an attack on the fire.
just want to say i have just recently seen a house fire down my street. not as bad as this but the smoke smell is waeful and heat is soo intense we were across the street watching. i cant imagine what its like to hav to go through that. i hope it never happens to me and my family .everyone wasnt home and they were able to rescue the dog. god bless the firefighters who put their lives on the line . !! we luv you and support you.
Not very good firefighting. Just calling it how it looks.
cgibber go2 I think trying get more FD trucks or not very uh, quick but trying to turn water on trucks
Whole lot of line pulling w/ little water being applied at first, just a thought aerials work really well if u set them up? Big fire = big water 💦 master streams, screw the 1 3/4 hand lines 2 1/2’s. If u delay on these fires your gonna lose it! Departments need to be really aggressive.
Number 1 priority is life safety, incident stabilization, and property conservation. Got to remember that its someones stuff burning and go in and get the job done.
It did take a long time to get water on it. But it looked like the fire was in the attic and hard to get to. Not that they didn't try. Plenty of lines off.
Hope the family was okay.
When they hear on the radio smoke showing, they should be in full gear upon arrival, not standing in the front yard putting on head gear @ 1:25. Then why they didnt drop the 5" line at the hydrant then proceed?
It takes a little more time to move real firehoses. Those little garden hoses you use there don't take any particular skill to use. Especially when you don't go in.
We run three man engine companies, with the next due units typically one to two minutes behind us. We are of the mind set to make an aggressive interior attack off tank while having next due lay into the first arriving engine. Plus.....our Engineers are VERY capable of securing their own water supply if within 150', we do this routinely. If the fire is clearly defensive from the start we would lay in. Also it is 4".....not a big deal if you train that way.....our Engineers do.
That fire needs water, no?
lots of hoses...but how about putting some water on the fire...too slow
let's not forget the Self-Sustaining Chemical Reaction, fourth part of the Fire Tetrahedron.
And excellent job btw RANCHO FD and SBCoFD
why did they not come off of the truck packed up ready to go
@dazzlingD9296 Yep its a scary thing to witness. I've seen a few fires around my neighborhood and it makes me scared something like that will happen. I often have dreams that my house caught on fire and it has me on edge the whole day after. I remember one in particular that happened on a hot summer night. and smoke from a house fire a few blocks away managed to come in through my windows. jumped up outta bed and ran through every room and checked outside 2 see if it was from my house.
@PUFCKG ::: That was an electronic Q siren.
o:16 why is the guy with dog just walking?
goood vid but dont cut in and out so much stay withe the whole movie rather than bits an pieces
@wrkn258 They'll probably knock it down and eventually rebuild a new house on the lot or something.
I was thinking finally a house fire that didn't start in the garage.! Then I saw the chimney! Bingo!!
orrrrrrrrrr just do your fucking job and save the house thats on fire
oh alright yeah didnt think of that
The 2nd engine should have laid in......however they came from a city next door to ours....may not be familiar with our SOP's.....
I know of a safe way to protect other exposures. If you're a good firefighter, you'll first protect the neighboring exposures before hitting the fire directly.
The chimney.
Nice house but it burns like hell. The house is build with wood instead with stones and firewalls. Also the fire trucks are slow with putting water on the fire.
It's in earthquake country so there are reasons it is built without stones
@nsvfdfirefighter617 Second due Engine should have dropped that line on the way in
that truck in the begining shouldve stopped at the hydrant..screw carrying a 4 inch hose thaaat far
Wat if that roof collasped
All in all they did a great job; especially in an unoccupied structure no reason to rush and take unnecessary risks to save a bureau. The only thing I would do differently is lay in from the hydrant instead of making a guy haul the line back to the hydrant? just drop him there with a hydrant wrap.
that whole time and they never put a stick up???
It dont matter how someone fights a fire it matters if the family of that house are ok