The Plane Highway in the Sky
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2016
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Over the North Atlantic, where there is no radar coverage, planes don't fly like they normally fly. They follow a set of daily tracks that act like highways in the sky.
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Sources:
www.nytimes.com/interactive/20... (This is a fantastic 10-15 minute read)
pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/common/n...
aerosavvy.com/north-atlantic-t...
nats.aero/blog/2014/06/north-a...
Attributions:
North Pole Oriented Map Courtesy Strebe
Airplane icon courtesy Mirko Velimirovic from Noun Project
Airplane overhead icon courtesy Viktor Vorobyev from Noun Project
Gander airport photo courtesy www.Fronterasblog.wordpress.com and used under Fair Use Guidelines
Air Traffic Control video courtesy Amsterdam Airport Schiphol
Cockpit view courtesy Simulation and Aviation
Overnight flight footage courtesy FlyingHDWorldwide
“If you’ve ever looked at a flight tracker sometime around ten or eleven PM eastern”
Yeah I do it everyday
I used to have an app that could either show live, or play at a faster pace. The latter was fun, seeing the sudden explosion of flights first thing in the morning in North America. It could also be used as a screen saver. I think that KLM provided the app, but showed all flights from all the consortium's flights... Delta, KLM, Air France, etc.
TomThy Hshshsh I do
Could you explain How?
Juan Flores how what?
I just looked one up, it's 2am GMT and it's cooool af
"Radar services terminated. have a good night." that just gave me the chills...
yes same, it's creepy and makes you feel alone.
I'm a pilot. We get this message all the time. It just means ATC isn't going to offer you separation or navigation services. You still have all the GPS equipment on your plane for navigating, so it isn't really a big deal.
How did transatlantic flights navigate e.g in the 1960s before GPS? Radio beacons? Celestial?
Im glad its not just me lol
They used stars and dead reckoning.
Recently was on a flight crossing the Pacific ocean, I remember looking out the window in midflight and realizing we are in the middle of nowhere and just feeling that nothingness. When you said "radar services terminated and have a good night" it totally brought back the feeling...
Actually when you cross the pacific like from Asia to America you go north over Japan and Alaska, not directly across the ocean.
Live The Future No clue why you’re trying to “correct” someone’s experience.
Australia-USA. Hawaii-USA. New Zealand-USA. Alaska-Asia. Asia-South America. Australia-South America. New Zealand-South America.
@@livethefuture2492Not much in Alaska tbf. But at least you can land somewhere if the plane is fucked. (I mean most planes can glide for 4 hours)
Delta A330 pilot here, and well, this was a pretty spectacular video. Although I must say that, while there isn’t a whole lot to do for us over the drink in terms of ATC communication, we pilots still have loads of work to do from checking the fuel levels extensively every 30 minutes to emergency planning and reviewing procedures, and things don’t always go according to plan, meaning that we have to act accordingly. Not to mention the weather isn’t always our friend, especially over the South Atlantic, so there’s another variable that we need to deal with. Still a rock solid video though
So every 30min you wake up and check two gauges? I mean let's be honest beside a thunderstorm or a mechanical failure it's mostly sleep and wait.
@@Focom99 they have to calculate fuel levels compared to the flight plans every 30 minutes.
@@Focom99 they also do a little homework, before their flight alarm goes off they need to calculate the distance and what they’ll need and what they’re going to do, pretty much predicting what will happen I heard.
@@Focom99 gotta love youtube. When a basement dweller challenges a pilot on what a pilot does during a flight.
@@Focom99 Tell me you've never flown without telling me you've never flown.
Am I the only one who LOVED the technical part?
I love nerdy technical stuff.
I found it very interesting.
Would I be here if I didn't?
I thought i wouldnt but i end up liking it
+1
“Radar services terminated. Have a good night.” Dang I felt that.
Violarinetar
It’s called having no data or WiFi
you just copied sumthin3789's comment u liar
Michael Peng sorry i did. but I didn’t see it, I dont read every single comment on a video.
@@gachastocks6151 me too
@@michael-pr7qd dang I saw this and I saw the other comment u were talking bout below this comment
"Radar services terminated. Have a good night."
Pilot: *grabs phone* let's play minecraft with the passengers
😂😂😂
Let's flip over to Mentour Pilot's channel to see how that went...
1-The timing
2-The music
3-The photography
4-And the phrase (Radar services terminated. Have a good night)And we are on our own.
This is how to make awesome moments in a movie or in a video in this case.
"Radio services terminated. Have a good night." Damn, that's creepy...
Sounds like something that a hijacker would say. Brrrrr....
I heard that phrase four times in the last week.
Pilot?
Wait which phrase; mine or namiix's?
Affirmative. Namiix’s.
4:09 I didn't know Steve from Blue's Clues was in the Air Traffic Control business!
"Over 2000 daily flights"
2020: Hold my beer
Hahahaha
@@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567 2 of them were me going to Hawaii :)
@@pompomaddons #Sadly The #Hawaiian Aren't #Allowed Em🥺😭🗿🗿💀🌺
1:42 Not true any more - as of February 2020 another British airways flight set a new record of 4 hours and 56 minutes between New York and London
Kyle Davis ok nerd
Same day I was on a flight from LAX to LHR. 8 hours 55 min. We were over 780 mph at one point.
This video was made 3 years ago
That was a Norwegian Air UK flight not a British Airways flight.
This video is 3 years old dude
Seeing a new video from you pop up in my sub box fills me with joy. Always so fascinating seeing how you approach a topic and then explaining it in such an interconnected way. As always, great job on keeping the quality so high in your videos! ^-^
Thanks man :)
You watch this?
This was a great video, well done :) Almost 3000 likes and 6 negatives btw, nice.
i agree
The like/dislike ratio i amazing :D
Steve from Blue's Clues turned into an air traffic controller. 4:14
I was thinking the same thing 😂
XD That is hilarious !
So I wasn't the only one thinking that! Lol
This made me laugh lol
There's a clue!
2:02 There are two things to bear in mind here. 1) The speed of sound is 760mph only at sea level in the standard atmosphere (1013hPa/millibars, 15 celsius) and falls with height, and 2) the difference between airspeed and ground speed. The 745mph here is almost certainly ground speed, which is airspeed plus tailwind (or minus headwind). This aircraft was moving at 545mph relative to a corridor of air that was moving at 200mph.
Alright dude we get it you have a big brain
@@HPsawus username checks out
@@theodiscusgaming3909 did I just reply within 30 minutes on my 2 year old comment ? I think I did
@@HPsawus big brain 🧠
haha, only people who already knew that would find it relevant lol, other people, like the guys above me, I could bet they didn't understand a word, or wouldn't even bother to take the effort
“Boston’s waypoints named for its sports teams, cubs and bears”
But those are from Chicago
Kyle Jonas
Yeah, that doesn’t make sense.
Lmao I got confused when he said that
It could be for the Bostin Bruins. A bruin is a bear.
It’s a joke
BEARZ is in NW Indiana, BEARS is in South Carolina, KUBBS is in Lake Michigan,
When he said "Radar services terminated" I got goosebumps.
Come here to say this. Thank you!
Peter Nguyen do you know Diane
Me To
me too
4:13 So thats what steve from blues clues is doing now
just going to say that lololol
man, he's put on some weight
Damnit, was just about to comment this. You beat me to it lol
He is a Air Traffic Controller. Lol
Casandbagger ha. Damn. You beat me,
I love your videos. But I have to correct one error in this video. I’m a 747 Pilot for Cathay Pacific, so know a little about this topic. You said that due to a strong jet steam a plane got very close to the speed of sound. That’s not correct.
An aircrafts “Ground Speed” has no bearing on their Mach number (Mach number is their percentage of the speed-of-sound they are flying). Only “airspeed” matters, and wind (jet steam) won’t affect an aircrafts airspeed. We fly at Mach 0.84 (or 84% of the speed of sound). Sometimes our ground speed is 450 knots, other times it’s 650 knots. But how close we are to the speed of sound has nothing to do with how fast we fly over the ground. Only how fast we’re flying through the air.
Anyway, I couldn’t let that one slide, I had to say something. Otherwise, keep up the amazing videos! I’ve learned so much from watching them all! Cheers!
I noticed that too, although not a pilot. Thanks for dedicating your career to flying us safely!
Seems logic now. If speed of sound is the speed of air waves, then if air travels faster because of wind, then sound is also faster. But this is a simple logic... Can somebody correct me?
He also got longitudinal and lateral separation confused ;)
But as someone that has just completed the 14 EASA ATPL exams including operational procedures (in which OTS/NATS is covered in depth) I can forgive him that.
@@abingdonboy As someone who is admiral general galactic president McAwesomeville and won 3 world wars and 4 nobel prizes, I can forgive him as well. I am a generous god.
LinusJoshua ummm okay?
Imagine hearing and feeling a loud bang and then the pilot says over the intercom “nothing to worry about ladies and gentlemen, we just passed the sound barrier”
they wouldn't hear anything because they are faster than sound travels
But then the wings would break
Frozen Bus Channel 魔雪巴士頻道 no?
nO
Justallan you can’t hear the sound barrier inside a plane because you’re going faster than the speed it (tries to) catch up with you
pilot: can we request clearance for takeoff point 9/11?
air control: WHAT??
hey mohamed program our course to 9/11 please
Oh yeah yeah
All you had to do was follow the damn trian
Doesn’t work that way; There is, fortunately, no track from waypoint SEP11.
Ian Wilkins you seen the 15:17 to Paris damm
What you say are Boston's waypoints (KUBBS, BEARS) are Chicago sports teams. I think something's mixed up.oh, and great informative video. Thanks.
Ahhhh snickerdoodles. It amazes me that that made it all the way through writing, recording, then editing without me catching it. This pains me so much
Don't worry about it, the Boston Bruins exist and a Bruin is a Bear.
I was very mad at you, then you used the word "snickerdoodles" and everything was ok again.
Yeah, he missed out on some really good ones, too. Some of the waypoints for Logan Airport include HAVRD YAARD, BGDIG, CELTS, BOSOX and … wait for it … DRUNK. We also have PLGRM, for the region’s history; CHWDH, LBSTA, and CLAWW for the food; GLOWB and HRALD cover the city’s newspapers; while SSOXS, FENWY, BAWLL, and OUTTT chronicle the anguishes of the city’s baseball team. Even the region’s speech-WIKID, followed by PAHTI-seems to be mapped. There’s a NIMOY waypoint; Leonard was born in Boston. And LYHTT for a famous lighthouse.
+Wendover Productions TBH, I laughed because I though you were just being sarcastic.
I live in Newfoundland! On 9/11 all flights coming to and from Europe were stopped in various airports (mainly Gander)... I'll never forget that day and all those planes...
Colorado’s DEN International Airport Waypoints:
Smke
wed
Evry
Day
Brian Lau waypoints dont have to be 5 characters but the max is 5 . Like near lax there is a waypoint AVE and thats 3
3 one is VOR
Actually three characters are for navigational aids and five for waypoints without nav aids. There are four character points but those are system points which are for the fms (flight management system) and aren‘t used by atc
Ok, someone who knows thier shit here
1. From looking at the profile pic, I'm guessing you all got woooshed
2. If not:
- waypoints (at least in American airspace, I can't say for anywhere else) are 5 characters long
- VOR's are 3 characters
-NAVIDS are 5 characters
- airways (based on the airways I have entered into the fmc before flights) are 1 letter and any amount of numbers between 1 and 3 digits
Hope this helps
Those WEEDHEADS need to go to rehab if their smoking everyday
It's not correct to say the 777 was 16 mph from sonic. 745 mph is ground speed, not true airspeed.
isnt speed of sound dependent on altitude as well
KHRrocks No that much on pressure, it's much more dependent on temperature (which goes down as you go up).
The speed of sound is entirely dependent on density. Which is why the average speed of sound in water is 3,355 mph, and in steel it is 12,952mph. Since air density is determined by altitude and air temperature, you are partially correct. It is altitude AND temp.
Bugdriver49 The effect of density at constant temperature going from sea level to 30,000ft equivalent is some 1.2 m/s, while the effect of temperature going from 20C to -50C is 40m/s.
Like I said: "not that much on pressure".
Downstream01 While I stand by my statement that sound travels faster through a denser medium, I must agree you are right in. re. the atmosphere. Salute!
Nice video with a lot of information and great graphics! Just few comments on the topic:
1. Generally it is an OTS (Organised Track System) and this particular one is NAT OTS (North Atlantic OTS) - as there are also other (i.e. PACOTS - Pacific OTS, AUSOTS - Australian OTS, etc)
2. Flights will never 'fly in the jet stream' as these are turbulent areas (think about the passengers :)
3. Speed of sound is only dependent on the air temperature so in your example (Lsos - 1200 km/h) would be like flying at 5000 feet above sea level :) Generally if we assume traversing ocean at FL400 (40000 feet) the OAT (outside air temperature) will be more like -56*C and Lsos (local speed of sound) therefore around 1060 km/h. Do not mix TAS with ground speed :)
4. Aircraft following on the same track are separated 10 minutes apart (15 minutes which you refer to are used between aircraft crossing another aircraft at the same level) - additionally separation is based on the mach number so pilots are not allowed to change their 'speed' as they wish.
5. We are not on our own :) pilots have to report their position every 10 minutes to the oceanic centers and communication is maintained via HF
Don't get me wrong - you have covered the topic very well - my comments are just to make your presentation more complete.
Cheers!
MrNuggin I
MrNuggin am
Also is the jet stream not westerly winds?
4:08
Glad to see Steve found work as an air traffic controller
Ive been looking for the music that plays at 3:30 ever since this video came out, i finally found it almost 6 years later. For anyone wondering its, "Nocturnal Waltz" by Johannes Bornlof
THANK YOU!!!!!!
thanks for including metric measurements
I enjoy people on youtube who make quality content like this instead of vlogs, gaming, and drama! Keep it up
1:48 actually, about 3 years after this video, a British Airways 747-400 broke the record at 4 hr. and 56 mins. i think
Extremely good explanation of the North Atlantic Tracks
Was that air traffic controller wearing the same clothes as Steve from Blue's Clues?
I also thought so lol
I saw that and immediately knew someone would mention him in the comments
5:30 When you said that, I had a rush of goosebump all over my back and arms, and I teared up a little. I don't know why, but somehow I got really emotional at that point.
Me too
Weirdo 😂
Me too.
Any pilot will!
I knew I wasn't the only one!
I flew from Atlanta to Venice last year. Can confirm, we not only passed over every Eastern US international airport but we also passed over Glasgow, London, Paris, and Turin.
3:29 Should anyone be interested, the name of the track that plays in this section is called "Nocturnal Waltz" and was composed by Johannes Bornlöf
got my final interview to work for nav canada as a controller tomorrow, thanks for all of these aviation themed video's, the information has been so interesting and useful!
Cole Bevans How did it go? Area or Tower? Where?
I love the Boston Bears and Boston Cubs!
Big mistake lol
Pats
Sox
Celts
Bruins
Not sure why Bears and Cubs
Steve from blues clues is an ATC now?!
Rohan Tyagi bears and cubs are references to the bruins buddy
The two best sports cities in the country, IMO. Chicago and Boston.
It's amazing how Gander and Shanwick Oceanic Area airspace keep flights on track through the NATs
_Boston has two waypoints in support of their sports teams:_
_the _*_KUBBS_*_ and _*_BEARS_*
Chicago: >:O
Massachusetts Mapping??? KUBBS is near Chicago, BEARS is in Georgia.
The plot thickens...
Chicago is home to the Chicago Cubs and the Chicago Bears. But the BEARS waypoint is in South Carolina, and the KUBBS one is over Lake Michigan. AFAIK there are no "Boston Kubbs" or "Boston Bears".
You actually forgot something! Pilots are still communicating with Shanwick or Gander and have to give them "position reports" when they cross a waypoint on the NAT and say the ETA for the next waypoint. Most often this is done via the FMC. The controllers still have an overview and safety is guaranteed!
WTF
CPDLC
Yup i thought i don't know how no one else realised...
Thank god someone else knows something here!!
^
From what I recall you don't lose contact with the ATC, you get handed over to oceanic radio and you have to request clearance for each waypoint/coordinate, mentioning speed, altitude etc
***** I knew virtual flying on IVAO was great :D
Yup, you contact oceanic on HF. But you'll normally get one oceanic clearance. It'll clear you along multiple waypoints/coordinates, and you'll be given a mach speed and flight level for the whole clearance too.
Keg my country didn't have a vatsim division, or at least not a big one, so I went on ivao and quit fsx for good about 2 years ago
"Radar services terminated" **titanic song plays**
Always OUTSTANDING VIDEOS from Wendover..
the names of those routes are called that because of the phonetic aplhabet, wich is used in aviation, so instead of A,B,C,D,E,... you have Aplha,Bravo,Charlie,Delta,Echo,...
so those routes are just called Z,Y,X,W,V,U,T,S,R,Q in theory
I remember learning that alphabet in 9th grade when I got bored in class. Fun times.
I learned it from Garry's mod Murder
I learned it from ArmA lol
Doesn't everyone know this?
I know it from amateur radio.
4:23 Since you messed up Boston, here you go... Some of the waypoints for Logan Airport include HAVRD YAARD, BGDIG, CELTS, BOSOX and … wait for it … DRUNK. We also have PLGRM, for the region’s history; CHWDH, LBSTA, and CLAWW for the food; GLOWB and HRALD cover the city’s newspapers; while SSOXS, FENWY, BAWLL, and OUTTT chronicle the anguishes of the city’s baseball team. Even the region’s speech-WIKID, followed by PAHTI-seems to be mapped. There’s a NIMOY waypoint; Leonard was born in Boston. And LYHTT for a famous lighthouse.
That was super informative. The most useful 5 mins I’ve spent browsing the internet. Thanks very much.
Well done and explained in a way anyone can easily understand. I flew most of my career overseas for a major carrier and appreciate see it illustrated technically correct. Wanted to add the thing that usually upsets the pilots before entering "50W"/named NAT track waypoint is getting an ATC refile and switching tracks or worse having to re-program on a "composite track" which is a very high pressured workload with little time to initiate (where errors can occur!). Thanks for video.
It's Ironic that when you started your technical part (with a warning), you're reading slightly faster as well.
I mean, it is a little ironic. You’d expect a technical explanation to be given relatively slowly to a layperson.
Omg u just triggered all the flat earth earthers
Oh my goodness you just triggered all English speakers!
Real Laundry Sauce grammar nazis*
Good
*Grammar Nazis
Round Earth if anyone thinks earth is flat i hate them
I found this content truly amazing! Really dude, thank you.
This video Answered so many of my questions!! Thank You!!!
This channel is just so darn interesting. I also appreciate the fact that you provide your reference sources in the description; that makes a big difference for credibility.
4:10 it's that guy from blues clues!!
OMFG I laughed so hard xD
lol
Oh my god.
Gill Bates we just got a letter we just got a letter we just got a letter I wonder who it’s from!
Yeah I'm glad Steve found a nice job as an air traffic control manager. Good for him
I live in Newfoundland, and love it when the route of the day is over my home. I can sometimes even get photos of the jets passing overhead to compare to the flight radar data on my computer. This was a great video explaining why on some days, i see lots of traffic, and on other days, hardly any!
Yep!
This is probably one of the best videos on this channel
You deserve more views and subscribers.
This is so interesting! Would you mind doing one for the Pacific Ocean sometime??
Actually the Pacific is almost the same. . Say SFO to Hong Kong you will travel up the coast heading to Anchorage curving around the Alaskan islands towards Japan. Obviously weather plays a big part in the actually route
@@Shape415 As well as having to avoid certain airspace that is closed due to conflict, as is Russia's since the start of Putin's war in Ukraine, or the USSR's back in the day
Love this channel!
don't know why but this is my favorite video made by you
"then, we are on our own."
Good job you can listen
Great music selection for that whole sequence of explanation!
Do you know wich piano song is in the video?
No idea, wish I knew. :( It's really good.
Wonderful music indeed !
This upcoming summer I’m flying from Newyork into London and traveling around Europe for a month so this was a really cool video for me. Thanks!
This is my favorite video to listen to and watch when I fly over the Atlantic.
Named after the Boston sport teams? Cubs and bears? BOI
Now that I think about it the 'Boston Bears' has a nice ring to it.
I quit watching after that. That's when I realized the guy had no idea what he was talking about.
+Flintstoned bears, bruins, same thing
Sam Williams that's chicago wtf
delano62 I think it was meant to be a joke.
This is amazing. Didn't realise so much went on. Well explained with great graphics.
i honestly dont know who would dislike this. like come on? why?
Love your channel. Great info
That was awesome, had no idea there are freeways in the sky. Keep it coming!
There are a whole mess of freeways over the U.S. Look up IFR en-route low & high altitude charts. It will blow your mind!!
In Europe we are transitioning to free route systems. That will blow your mind too.
Yes but I doubt you have the volume of air traffic that we do in the U.S. Europe has better train systems, we don't; so people will book a plane to fly 300 miles.
thank lord in Europe there are effective bus and train routes. It's a pain in the ass in the US. Hurricane Matthew cancelled my flight and in the US you're literally stuck without any flights. Actually It's a shame.
+Mitchel Rieger How are you stuck? Are you a foreigner? Everyone and a car. There are roads everywhere.
The "technical part" was honestly one of the most interesting from any of your videos. I was so enthralled, and concerned for that little yellow plane!
This is a nicely edited and prepared video
I really enjoy learning from your videos. Your videos have fantastic information that I'm so thankful to have learned from!
4:08 The dude from Blue's Clues has moved up in the world, congrats.
VERY nice that you took it to the technical specifics!
'Now this is the technical part' *starts music*
:|
at least its not the happy warbly music like in old early 60's documentaries.
This is such a solid video, good job.
i love aviation and i love that i finally found a good channel that gives good aviation videos
That was incredibly informative and educational. I've enjoyed all of your aviation-related videos so far!
Excellent video! Very well done!!!
I just wanna say, I love your videos, they are accurate and narrated by a real person. Unlike other channels who hastily put videos and facts together, are inconsistent, misspell and mispronounce words, and narrated by some robot voice. If anyone can recommend me other channels like Wendover Productions, please let me know!
all you're videos are soooo interesting
If anyone wants more info about this. Search NATS (North Atlantic Track System)
Love this video. Simple, but informative!
4:14 dude looking like he from blues clues
This was a very informative video. Thank you for this upload.
I'm in the mood for some Spicy BBQ Turkey Smoke Ribs after this video
then come to KC
@@mysummerinanutshell5449 KC baby
Idk about you guys, but I'm in the mood for some we will never forget September 11th after watching this video.
Awesome information, thanks bro .!!
Why is this video so beautiful.. especially the technical part
Now I know why they always take the "long way" instead of the "straight way". Very interesting video!
They are taking the straight way
Jesse Vermeulen Do you understand the meaning of quotation marks?
According to flat earthers, its a conspiracy by the oil companies to burn more oil and take more peoples money lol. Probably aliens are involved as well.
Lol wow I was wondering what the fucking counter-explanation would be. xD
I always thought they were taking the dumb long way. Then I drew the line myself in Google Maps. And just like Wendover says, a straight line from NY to London looks "curved" when flattened.
If you freeze the pic, around 03:16 & squint your eyes, USA & Canada look like an angry dragon. Or have I been smoking too much...??
actually yeah i see it too
exactly
Are you asian m8?
I can't unsee that now
Actually I do! Haha, weird!
Excellent presentation. Precise and to the point
Thanks for sharing and educating us to get to know more about the air travel.
1:59..No, the GROUND SPEED of the aircraft was 745mph, the AIR SPEED was only 545mph.
still god damn fast for a 777 though you got to admit
No one cares about KIAS lol
I guess that wasn't 745mph but 745kt.
Joker 745 kts my ass
It was 745mph which equals like 650kts
patrik streng Using mph instead of kt is unusual in aviation.
This is sooo interesting and the technicals are very easy to understand. Could you make one of this about the routes over the Pacific Ocean? That's a doozy.
Hitting these NATS waypoints at the precise time, speed, altitude is critical for maintaining aircraft separation. Aircraft that are unable to do so are relegated to less favorable areas of the Jetstream. This was a key benefit to reengining the C-5 which was under powered with the TF-39.
The moment you said “Radar Terminated”, my mind went blank for a second.
Very good presentation, dude!!
cause you were meant to, one of the baits to keep watching Wendover. In reality we still have all sorts of comms from HF radio to satellite, it is just the radar that is unable to track the planes due to range constrains. We still talk to the centres and give "position reports" at waypoints with current altitude, speed in mach, next waypoint, estimated time and the waypoint after that. It is not lonely and often you would see planes flying nearby with appropriate separation.
Great video! Planes are cool, and the infrastructure around them just as impressive. One small issue with the sound barrier: for the record setting British Airways flight, you say the plane was only 16mph below the sound barrier, it was actually 135mph below (give or take a bit). What makes the jet-stream so important is that planes fly at a fixed relative airspeed at cruise, around Mach 0.8. It's the important distinction between ground and air speed which is what makes the jet-stream so critical for efficient air routes. Also, the speed of sound at 30k ft, on a standard day is 678 mph, so a plane flying at mach 0.8 with a 200mph tailwind is flying around 745mph like you said, but still not any closer to the speed of sound than any other plane (in this case still 135 mph below the sound barrier). ~ I hope this is helpful and not pendatic, like you I want everyone to know how this stuff works!
"HAMMM, BURGR, and FRYYS"
Lets go to McDonalds
Needs "SHAKE" too.
I flew Miami to Baltimore in the mid 80’s on a 733 or 737 ( I forget) with, as the pilot announced, a 200 mph tailwind giving us a speed of 750 mph appx. Being in the very last seat, that tail was whipping like crazy. Arrived 45 minutes early.
Less than 100 years ago, Charles Lindbergh flew essentially the same route, with only a compass to find his way. To reduce the weight of his plane, and because he didn't trust the technology, he didn't take a radio. He flew 33-1/2 hours nonstop. The airfield where he landed (Le Bourget) wasn't even marked on his map. He only knew it was a few miles north of Paris. The crowd waiting for him was estimated at 150,000 people.