Game Theory: Shadow Is ACTUALLY A Genie?! (Sonic The Hedgehog)

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    Sonic The Hedgehog is one of the most iconic franchises in ALL of gaming! Everyone knows Sonic for his love of Chilli Dogs, collecting those rings, and of course his killer speed... but there's something I bet you would have never guessed about our anthropomorphic hedgehog friends. Your favorite anti-hero Shadow The Hedgehog is a GENIE... yeah like a REAL genie. Don't believe me? Just watch!
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  • @neonthehedgehog12
    @neonthehedgehog12 2 дні тому +3664

    Your finally having your "Sans is Ness" moment.

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 2 дні тому +100

      I still believe that to a degree. So you can't say that is 100 percent crazy

    • @Niaz-m9t
      @Niaz-m9t 2 дні тому +45

      this needs to be pinned

    • @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS
      @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS 2 дні тому +24

      Honestly I hope they pin this one

    • @d4560yt
      @d4560yt 2 дні тому +39

      Sans is Shadow 😱

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 2 дні тому +39

      Being fair,, in this case? They actually HAVE referenced the Arabian Nights in an entire game with Secret Rings.

  • @Albionic_
    @Albionic_ 2 дні тому +3236

    Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how Tom's theories have somehow become even MORE deranged than Matpat's were?

    • @Kels_OJ
      @Kels_OJ 2 дні тому +103

      At least Matt had some real theories, this is just some far oversimplification of a good story.

    • @masonng4425
      @masonng4425 2 дні тому +60

      Sans is Ness part 2

    • @JordanJonasVA
      @JordanJonasVA 2 дні тому +30

      Yeah I don’t know this theory really doesn’t stick

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому +9

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊❤❤❤

    • @zadock6370
      @zadock6370 2 дні тому +20

      he will never top the absurdity of wall-e being satan

  • @Kulkogo
    @Kulkogo 2 дні тому +780

    “You can make three wishes”
    *I want to bring Maria back*
    “You can make three wishes except for that”

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 2 дні тому +32

      "There are a few, uh, provisos. A couple of quid pro quos."

    • @Bandicooch
      @Bandicooch 2 дні тому +19

      "That is beyond my power " -Shenron

    • @amamplay
      @amamplay 2 дні тому +3

      Raaaarh!!!!

    • @pkmntrainermark8881
      @pkmntrainermark8881 2 дні тому +14

      "It's not a pretty picture. I don't like doing it!"

    • @warrencosgrove-r1k
      @warrencosgrove-r1k 2 дні тому +6

      But that would kinda remove you from the story altogether...
      -genie

  • @haydenbutler37
    @haydenbutler37 2 дні тому +132

    Tom, without the rings, Shadow can actually die from the Chaos Energy. Without them, he's much more vulnerable to damage.

  • @LocalGiganfan1980
    @LocalGiganfan1980 2 дні тому +104

    I think Game theory is starting to go insane.
    MatPat really was like. “Just go nuts with it guys just go nuts with it!”

  • @masterskygamer306
    @masterskygamer306 2 дні тому +416

    the fact that Sonic and the Secret Rings was not mentioned once, only off hand referenced with the genie in the ring comment, in a theory about genies is a crime

    • @drmeow6203
      @drmeow6203 2 дні тому +6

      I think this game is not canon? so there's really no point to mention it for the canon timeline theory

    • @OtZillaFM
      @OtZillaFM 2 дні тому +35

      @@drmeow6203 Sonic mentions "rescuing genies in magic books" after rescuing Tails in Sonic Generations.
      So yeah, It's Canon

    • @ItsCenrryTH
      @ItsCenrryTH День тому

      ​@@drmeow6203
      Secret Rings is canon, though.
      Though, I don't believe there was a Shadow variant in that story. Only in Black Knight

    • @RemedieX
      @RemedieX День тому

      ​@@drmeow6203 Pretty sure Sega themselves said all games are canon in a tweet somewhere 😂

    • @Hyp3rSon1X
      @Hyp3rSon1X День тому +2

      @@drmeow6203 Even Sonic 06 is canon. But the game retcons/cancels itself in the end and makes it so everything that happened in the game, didn't actually happen in the canon timeline.
      I honestly don't know of any Sonic game that is considered non canon. The only non canon thing in the Sonic universe is maybe the Archie comics.

  • @Flipdew
    @Flipdew 2 дні тому +1688

    This is easily the most nonsensical title I've ever seen from Theory.
    Idk how they'll back this up but I'm weirdly excited.

    • @mrcreeper7394
      @mrcreeper7394 2 дні тому +11

      I agree lol

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому +1

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.❤❤❤

    • @mrcreeper7394
      @mrcreeper7394 2 дні тому +17

      Matpat also used to make unhinged titles

    • @joelsasmad
      @joelsasmad 2 дні тому +13

      ​@@mrcreeper7394It is good to see them back

    • @DaRealICantThinkOfAUsername
      @DaRealICantThinkOfAUsername 2 дні тому +17

      Sans is Ness: am I a joke to you?
      Deadpool is *insert name here* : am I a joke to you?

  • @Slimeeify
    @Slimeeify 2 дні тому +985

    15:52 The reason he keeps them on is actually simpler than that, his unrestrained power takes a toll on his physical body, so the rings are more so here to stabilise shadow.

    • @MinerMario
      @MinerMario 2 дні тому +98

      Plus, he can take them off at will if needed.

    • @deadersurvival4716
      @deadersurvival4716 2 дні тому +1

      Source?

    • @pandora5051
      @pandora5051 2 дні тому +86

      ​@@deadersurvival4716 Literally Sonic 06

    • @christopherrisher1882
      @christopherrisher1882 2 дні тому +16

      It while he's fight mephlise

    • @deadersurvival4716
      @deadersurvival4716 2 дні тому +4

      @@pandora5051 Pardon me, I don't remember an almost two decade old game that I never played or had access to verbatim. Do you mind being a _bit_ more specific?

  • @EllenCMontana
    @EllenCMontana 2 дні тому +689

    "Technically it was the genie of the ring"
    You do know that both Sonic and Shadow pick up rings, right? You didn't draw that parallel?

    • @Hevensdragon
      @Hevensdragon 2 дні тому +36

      @@EllenCMontana Yeah real, with how much of a stretch everything else was that he drew on, yet he ignores gold rings. This was some insane cherry picking.

    • @MyName1sSim0na
      @MyName1sSim0na 2 дні тому +4

      get rekt bot imma report you

    • @megafirebird22
      @megafirebird22 2 дні тому +15

      His rings also aren't forced on him by others. He wears them for himself and can remove them whenever he wants.

    • @mariabutherghost
      @mariabutherghost 2 дні тому +2

      Shadow, you have to ban the NSFW bot! Be my moderator 🥹

    • @hanifarroisimukhlis5989
      @hanifarroisimukhlis5989 2 дні тому +1

      🍑🤖

  • @andyshirer610
    @andyshirer610 2 дні тому +76

    I can't believe that not once during the entire video where he goes on about the Arabian nights, Tom not once mentions "Sonic and the Secret Rings" which has sonic go into the actual book.

    • @JeremyKent-td8ed
      @JeremyKent-td8ed 2 дні тому

      is Sonic and the Secret Rings have something to do with shadow or even the babylon ?

    • @Darth_Spyro
      @Darth_Spyro 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@JeremyKent-td8ed Nope. Which is why he didn't mention them. They're not at all relevant to the theory 😂

    • @JeremyKent-td8ed
      @JeremyKent-td8ed 2 дні тому +1

      @@Darth_Spyro Yeah that why im just Wondering why they ask about it XD

    • @oojclops7257
      @oojclops7257 День тому +1

      @@Darth_Spyro I'd argue it's good supporting evidence how the sonic series continuously draws inspiration from Arabic legends, showing how it isn't a stretch in logic that the Babylonians are related to genies

    • @torii1514
      @torii1514 День тому

      They probably didn’t mention it because the Shadow in the Story isn’t “really shadow” he’s just playing as a known historic figure in that game. Following the plot of that story has nothing to do with the Canon Story of Shadow.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 2 дні тому +536

    I can definitely see the argument that they were thematic parallels between Shadow’s story and genies lore, but I don’t think that makes him an actual genie.
    The series has aliens that are mistaken for genies, like you mentioned, but then there are also actual genies in Sonic & The Secret Rings. It’s been over a decade and a half since genies were introduced into the series so I feel like if they wanted to address any literal connections between shadow and genies it would’ve been brought up at this point.
    However, if we’re looking up as purely from a thematic level rather than a literal one, I can get behind the theory that his story parallels of genie mythology

    • @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712
      @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 2 дні тому +43

      Agree. The theory seems to make sense with the resemblances, yet it still don’t make Shadow a literal genie, as it’s never canonically implied to be.

    • @LycanDreams9159
      @LycanDreams9159 2 дні тому +24

      I’m pretty sure sonic and the secret rings is a story book that sonic falls into magically just like sonic and the black knight. I’m not sure if the genies in that game exist in the real world where sonic and shadow lives. That still leaves the possibility that the aliens that were confused to be genies could still be related to if not literally the black arms

    • @jadeninjaproductions7007
      @jadeninjaproductions7007 2 дні тому +1

      I agree.

    • @RakoonCD
      @RakoonCD 2 дні тому +4

      Especially since Sonic is meant to be a fairytale creature/protagonist.
      Like Pinocchio, Mario, Peter Pan.

    • @drybonesmunchakoopas5143
      @drybonesmunchakoopas5143 2 дні тому +7

      ​@@LycanDreams9159in generations sonic says he's fought genies so it's real. Plus it's the genie magic that brought him into it in the first place, can't exactly enter a book without magic

  • @wockytalkie8352
    @wockytalkie8352 2 дні тому +870

    So wait, you make a theory about genies, and NOT mention sonic and the secret rings?

    • @Tyler-mk2lt
      @Tyler-mk2lt 2 дні тому +83

      its probably because in the sonic cannon secret rings took place when sonic was transported into the world of a storybook
      hence the name 'the storybook series'

    • @Mega-Bits
      @Mega-Bits 2 дні тому +10

      He sure did.

    • @vinkennest3274
      @vinkennest3274 2 дні тому +21

      Unless you learn that sonic mentions erazor jinn in generations

    • @GrimmysReviews
      @GrimmysReviews 2 дні тому +23

      What's worse is he mentions a genie of the lamp and genie of the ring, who both have incarnations in Secret Rings, but fails to mention the actual "no scientific explanation" genies that Sonic has met in Secret Rings, and mentioned in Generations' 2nd or 3rd cutscenes

    • @rinny5500
      @rinny5500 2 дні тому +3

      Exactly this

  • @XDLottaMoths
    @XDLottaMoths 2 дні тому +570

    You missed the point of the inhibitor rings. The rings were made not to weaken shadow but to keep his power at the limit his body can handle. When the inhibitor rings are off, Shadow’s overwhelming power is too much for his body and so Gerald created the inhibitor rings to ensure that shadow wouldn’t accidentally explode. Also, fun fact, despite being compared to Vegeta every 3 minutes, it was recently revealed that the biggest inspiration for Shadow’s character was the anti-hero Spawn

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite 2 дні тому +24

      That still technically weakening him

    • @XDLottaMoths
      @XDLottaMoths 2 дні тому +75

      @@stargazer-elite my point was that they weren't built to restrain him. They were built to protect him from his power

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite 2 дні тому +12

      @@XDLottaMoths fair enough

    • @BlurBlizzard
      @BlurBlizzard 2 дні тому +13

      His concept art cited vegeta as inspiration. They just dont share personalities, but he is also inspired by Vegeta

    • @evergreen_kate
      @evergreen_kate 2 дні тому +5

      Wait I didn’t recall him potentially exploding… I remember the fan made Shadow movie which was super accurate with their facts saying his body constantly went from “regular hedgehog to super” and that put a strain on his body, and that’s why they couldn’t read his dna. So Shadow has the potential to go super without his inhibitor rings. But exploding? Oh heck naw not my boi ☹️🖤

  • @sirparker2881
    @sirparker2881 2 дні тому +29

    He didn’t even acknowledge Sonic and the Secret Rings, an ENTIRE GAME BASED UPON THE ARABIAN NIGHTS STORY. They definitely researched that and since they took it nowhere, they made a mainline game off of it to not waste their research.

  • @okami_ez
    @okami_ez 2 дні тому +37

    ok it doesn't really imply that Shadow is a Genie, it just implies that Shadow has the same backstory as the Genie BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE SHADOW A GENIE

  • @gradientelz1899
    @gradientelz1899 2 дні тому +303

    7:43 "I'VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. SHADOW THE HEADGEHOG IS A-"

  • @sharonv3597
    @sharonv3597 2 дні тому +165

    Was kinda hoping for a sonic and the secret rings mention, because that game is ABOUT GENIES

    • @NintendoSegaGuys
      @NintendoSegaGuys 2 дні тому +6

      Same.

    • @MyronZhang
      @MyronZhang 2 дні тому +13

      Yeah, I'm surprised that wasn't referenced even once. Although Shadow has nothing to do with it outside of the multiplayer, Sonic calls back to it in Generations. So it's canon that Sonic went inside the Arabian Nights, and that Shahra and Erazor Djinn (genies) exist.

    • @yamiru3417
      @yamiru3417 2 дні тому +2

      @@MyronZhang also because of this shadow story being related to that of the book wouldn't be too far out. but shadow isn't actually a genie

  • @wilwix_stoleyourman
    @wilwix_stoleyourman 2 дні тому +3784

    I miss my wife Tom.

    • @Ludo-ve6vx
      @Ludo-ve6vx 2 дні тому +235

      Ill be back

    • @soap_cat
      @soap_cat 2 дні тому +86

      The way I screamed w happiness

    • @JustAFantasy2015
      @JustAFantasy2015 2 дні тому +112

      I’ve come to make sn announcement

    • @Maximum05
      @Maximum05 2 дні тому +98

      I miss her alot

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому +28

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

  • @SarahAbramova
    @SarahAbramova 2 дні тому +7

    Hey, Tom, I know you probably skipped it, because it's Sonic 06, but Shadow can actually take those rings off himself.

  • @MoogiBoi
    @MoogiBoi День тому +2

    Dude Game Theory with Tom has actually been so nice and refreshing. I've still been looking forward to every upload. Good videos man keep it up

  • @SpookBobFangatic666
    @SpookBobFangatic666 2 дні тому +587

    At least he’s not like that other Genie whose Jordans are completely fake, has absolutely no maidens, and hasn’t even thought about buying Spotify Premium.

    • @devilrawr
      @devilrawr 2 дні тому +14

      reference

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @FoxyPercival714
      @FoxyPercival714 2 дні тому +1

      Hey Kazam is awesome.

    • @CMJ321
      @CMJ321 2 дні тому +2

      I love that meme

    • @Miksy51
      @Miksy51 2 дні тому +2

      6:34
      Also My boi Hoopa mentioned AAAaaaAAAAa!!!
      ^v^

  • @Tby399
    @Tby399 2 дні тому +415

    1:05 'For his neutral special, he wields a gun'

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 2 дні тому +3

      I didn't know that Shadow was American

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 2 дні тому +3

      @@alphaa2010 shut up

    • @ssokkjh
      @ssokkjh 2 дні тому +3

      ​@@TheMastermind7259 Nah he IS america

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 2 дні тому

      @@ssokkjh if the developers of Sonic knew what they're doing...

  • @Superdan4290
    @Superdan4290 День тому +5

    A Sonic theory about a genie, and there’s absolutely NO mention of Sonic and the Secret Rings? I wonder if there wasn’t enough lore connections, or if he just forgot it existed 😂 I wouldn’t blame him

  • @_mivemi_
    @_mivemi_ 2 дні тому +2

    Honestly, while the title seemed kinda ridiculous, I think the logic actually make me believe it in the sense that he's an alien who's story parallels genies because aliens and genies are often mixed up in the sonic universe. This is a fun theory and it make me more excited to see more shadow content!

  • @ProudOrbit217
    @ProudOrbit217 2 дні тому +145

    Shadow really has some of the most unique character growth
    Love to see it.

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому +2

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @colekleijnen2060
      @colekleijnen2060 2 дні тому +3

      As long as you ignore the 2010s

  • @avarisu6280
    @avarisu6280 2 дні тому +78

    "I will grant you one wish"
    -Does something that technically fulfills the wish but no one is happy with, especially the wisher
    Yeah he's definitely a genie.

  • @inciniratr8445
    @inciniratr8445 2 дні тому +65

    SECRET RINGS WAS NOT BROUGHT UP ONCE 💀

  • @AlmyTheAlien
    @AlmyTheAlien 2 дні тому +4

    Shadow: (Stops the Ark from colliding with earth)
    Gerald: "Never trust a genie."

  • @pizzaguyfrank
    @pizzaguyfrank День тому +4

    Based on what I've taken away from this Game Theory video and my current knowledge and research of Shadow's backstory in the universe, I don't think Shadow the Hedgehog is meant to be seen as a genie, as suggested by the video. Although there are similarities between Shadow's story and typical genie characteristics, these connections seem more coincidental than intentional upon closer examination.
    The video discusses how Shadow's backstory in Sonic Adventure 2 parallels the genie's tale in the Aladdin story - both featuring a magical figure imprisoned underground that the villain must access with specific incantations before obtaining a stolen structure to serve as their headquarters far from civilization. However, this analogy might be oversimplifying the connection between the two narratives. When Shadow was imprisoned and freed by Eggman, the parallels ceased there. Shadow wasn't obligated to obey Eggman and eventually turned against him, unlike a genie forced to fulfill their master's desires.
    The video also mentions Shadow's inhibitor rings as a sign of his genie status. It suggests that they represent his obligation to fulfill others' wishes. A claim not backed by the game narratives. In reality, the inhibitor rings act as barriers that curb Shadow's strength rather than as restraints of servitude. When taken off, the removal enhances Shadow's abilities but also leads to quicker exhaustion. These rings symbolize Shadow's necessity to manage his power, rather than being symbols of captivity or enslavement.
    In the theory discussed further, there is the notion that Shadow's extraterrestrial background doesn't rule out his genie status because the video suggests that in the Sonic world, what we perceive as mythical Genies are advanced alien beings. The support for this argument is drawn from Riders, where It's revealed that the ancient Babylonians were linked to genies/aliens by descent. Albeit a somewhat fragile link, at most. The mysterious beginnings of the Babylonians may not relate to all alien creatures in the Sonic Universe. Moreover, the Black Arms, who are Shadows predecessors, are usually depicted as a sinister collective consciousness with little resemblance to wish granters. The video also emphasizes Shadow obtaining wings in the upcoming game Sonic X Shadow Generations and connects it to ancient Babylonian tales; however, this is mere conjecture drawn from a short teaser clip we have seen so far. Plus, it's called "Doom Powers" as it is seemingly coming from Black Doom's DNA side, nothing with the Babylonians, who are not related to Black Doom. Even then, we lack information about the significance of these wings' symbolism; equating them to evidence of Shadow's genie lineage is premature.
    Lastly, in the video, it is mentioned that Shadow's genie narrative was probably changed due to his alien background being introduced; however, it suggests that, as per the rules of the Sonic Universe, Shadow being an alien doesn't necessarily rule out his potential as a genie too. In my view, the Occam's Razor theory fits better in this scenario. Shadow being a subject without any ties to genies is a more straightforward and coherent explanation compared to him embodying both traits of being an alien and a genie. The extraterrestrial background of Shadow the Hedgehog has been clearly defined since 2005. There is no suggestion in subsequent games that he is connected to genies in any way.
    The video offers a take on Shadow's character; however, the argument that he is a genie lacks strong supporting evidence when examined against the background lore of the games themselves. It seems likely that Shadow's narrative revolves around his struggles as an artificial alien hybrid coming to terms with his identity and purpose, rather than being a mystical wish-granting entity. The genie notion may be intriguing to consider, but it Ultimately diverges from the recognized canon within the Sonic universe.

  • @YanntastischGER
    @YanntastischGER 2 дні тому +386

    When you think Sans is Ness was the most ridiculous thing Game Theory has ever proclaimed

    • @blindedjourneyman
      @blindedjourneyman 2 дні тому +19

      Oh for sure! This one definitely takes the cake for weird and seemingly dim.

    • @AUSans101
      @AUSans101 2 дні тому

      Fr

    • @tyukogames
      @tyukogames 2 дні тому +3

      Nah, remeber gregory is a robot?

    • @AUSans101
      @AUSans101 2 дні тому +5

      @@tyukogames he was right though

    • @yousufkhurram9585
      @yousufkhurram9585 2 дні тому +7

      @@tyukogames well mat was right though lol

  • @Micolino9878
    @Micolino9878 2 дні тому +110

    One would think Sonic and the Secret Rings, the game that has the most clear cut genie in the franchise, would make an appearance in this discussion.

    • @zm2mad9
      @zm2mad9 2 дні тому +15

      There's also Iblis from sonic 06, a character named from a particularly infamous jinn in Islam who serves as basically a Satan analogue

    • @TheDark4light
      @TheDark4light 2 дні тому +4

      Was the first thing I thought of. I figured "okay, if he uses that along with the inhibitor rings then maybe." As it stands? Nope.

    • @redschafer7804
      @redschafer7804 2 дні тому

      ya but Shadow wasn't in that game so it doesn't make any sense for this theory. i mean even using the sonic riders game is a reach

    • @phxrebirth
      @phxrebirth День тому

      Not to mention there's also a genie that's a penultimate final boss in Sonic Riders

    • @Micolino9878
      @Micolino9878 День тому +1

      @@phxrebirth That one WAS mentioned.

  • @hutothetao
    @hutothetao 2 дні тому +192

    Well he’s finally lost it. Didn’t manage to outlast matpat

  • @TheHallow31
    @TheHallow31 2 дні тому +2

    This is the first Game Theory I've watched since MatPat left.
    As a lifelong Shadow fanboy, I couldn't resist. Well done.

  • @cruelbiscuit62
    @cruelbiscuit62 2 дні тому +7

    7:43 I'VE COME HERE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT

  • @50percentGrey
    @50percentGrey 2 дні тому +78

    Amy Rose has gold bracelets and yet she's able to summon a giant mallet at will. Is she also a "genie"? She's always wanting to be with Sonic, like she wants to grant him a big wish. Right?

  • @ac_aces1657
    @ac_aces1657 2 дні тому +106

    It's only been 6 months, and Tom has already lost it 😂

    • @MrGavoToYou
      @MrGavoToYou 2 дні тому +8

      I didn’t think he’d last this long

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 2 дні тому +9

      He been working for Matt for a while. He probably just had his ideas locked away. Once he was the new host. His mind escaped and now is going nuts.

    • @raptorzeraora2632
      @raptorzeraora2632 2 дні тому +1

      6 months?!

  • @AbdulAhad-hm1xd
    @AbdulAhad-hm1xd 2 дні тому +49

    The reason he has the rings on is because well yeah it limits him but if he took them it could be really dangerous for him that's why still has them

  • @Birblord4
    @Birblord4 2 дні тому +4

    12:22
    “Hey catfish is there an earthquake?”
    “Balhalhalhala”
    “ok”

  • @adamnapolitano432
    @adamnapolitano432 2 дні тому +2

    I swear Shadow's story is gonna be a real tear jerker.

  • @kevinstothers3189
    @kevinstothers3189 2 дні тому +44

    The little editor note told me to say, "Tom is a lil' crazy guy!" and I can not disobey that sassy little cartoon in the corner of these videos.

    • @thehansboi
      @thehansboi 2 дні тому +1

      Where's that btw?

    • @kevinstothers3189
      @kevinstothers3189 2 дні тому +1

      @@thehansboi Near the start of the video when Tom is insisting that he's not crazy.

  • @TruBluAnims
    @TruBluAnims 2 дні тому +21

    16:07 The reason why Shadow wears inhibitors is because he'd die without them, the Chaos Energy is so immense that it strains his body. Like a Kaio-Ken of sorts.

  • @codeprimeproductions6603
    @codeprimeproductions6603 2 дні тому +63

    7:41 This line is miss translated. In the original Japanese version he says "I shall grant you your wish." and it was mistranslated in the American version. Because of this it is more unlikely that you can relate the genie theory to this one line.

  • @callmejon5206
    @callmejon5206 2 дні тому +2

    Shadow has been real quiet since this video dropped

  • @oumarbrouwer2763
    @oumarbrouwer2763 2 дні тому +2

    This is the type of game theory I love something outrageous that can be justified, even if the beginning was a bit stretched

  • @sonicjax
    @sonicjax 2 дні тому +142

    Like how MatPat thinks Gregory is a robot, Tom thinks shadow is a genie💀

    • @shadetee234
      @shadetee234 2 дні тому +11

      And how Matt thought sans was ness

    • @masedaace5473
      @masedaace5473 2 дні тому +4

      @@sonicjax and yet somehow the Gregory Robot thing is more believable.

    • @Wattson19
      @Wattson19 20 годин тому

      ​​@@shadetee234 He never really believed this, that theory was more of a suggestion than anything

  • @MrLightDarkness
    @MrLightDarkness 2 дні тому +128

    Uh oh, we’re already mistaking narrative subtext for actual lore.

    • @WhatTheCheick
      @WhatTheCheick 2 дні тому +23

      To be honest while I do think the same, I think that he's not inherently wrong, like Shadow isn't literally a genie, but all the analysis makes sense in a regard
      I was skeptical until the second half
      The proposed lore isn't actually much more than just that subtext

  • @ChaosStar27
    @ChaosStar27 2 дні тому +78

    16:13 No Tom, he's not
    don't think you remember but he wears the inhibitor rings to LIMIT his powers. He does this cause he wants to.
    Also the Babalonians are SO much different than the Black Arms.
    Babalonians can grant wishes and The Black Arms can't
    Then you might ask "how is Shadow Able to possess the Doom Powers?" Because He's part alien Duh.
    He has Black Arms blood in his veins and these egg like things are only activating his Black Arms abilities cause he hasn't done so yet.
    With Shadow being Black Arms, he should be able to use these abilities due to his blood.
    He's using them as his own in order to destroy Doom.
    Tom, Buddy, you need to actually do your research before theorizing.

    • @forrestfyre7846
      @forrestfyre7846 2 дні тому +19

      1. Absolutely agree with you
      2. This is the same thing that happened with UT/DT and MatPat where there was zero research done
      3. Shadow actually wears the Chaos Inhibitors so he doesn't die from overexertion. The more ya know

    • @bryandacote8109
      @bryandacote8109 2 дні тому +2

      Game Theory actually do research anymore? Forget it. These videos years ago became about shock value entertainment for kids and teenagers.

    • @ArtskyHSS
      @ArtskyHSS 2 дні тому

      Bro cooked w this comment

    • @garethharriott9582
      @garethharriott9582 2 дні тому

      You literally said theorizing, my gee, it's not that deep, don't take this channel seriously, it's mostly for fun

  • @Gwox
    @Gwox 2 дні тому +3

    How did he manage to do a whole video drawing parallels to Arabian Nights without once mentioning Sonic and the Secret Rings?

  • @silysloht_slow_man
    @silysloht_slow_man 2 дні тому +4

    16:12 do you really think he can just take off his rings whenever he wants? Because he'll get tired if he has them off

  • @ItsChevnotJeff
    @ItsChevnotJeff 2 дні тому +36

    Man, I hate it when my genie leaks my sensitive information online, urinates on my significant other, and just be a general nuisance about it

  • @TheTrueKingJ
    @TheTrueKingJ 2 дні тому +21

    Ok, so I assume we’re ignoring the existence of Sonic and the secret rings then, alright.

  • @ChibamiKarim
    @ChibamiKarim 2 дні тому +20

    Bro we really got a sans is ness 2.0 like WHAT? Btw 5:10 is a HUGE stretch

  • @knights4eva981
    @knights4eva981 2 дні тому +1

    Beginning: "Yep, Tom's gone insane."
    End: "Of course he managed to convince me. He always manages to convince me..."

  • @Aurora-P
    @Aurora-P 2 дні тому +4

    . . . Tom ? Tom did . . . did you make a Sonic Theory about the Arabian Knights . . . without covering *Sonic and the Secret Rings* . . . the Sonic game ABOUT THE ARABIAN KNIGHTS ?? 😭

  • @RanRedstone
    @RanRedstone 2 дні тому +53

    1:35 Bro's turning into Matpat

  • @BlungesBOAH
    @BlungesBOAH 2 дні тому +54

    0:19 SINCE WHEN IS DANTE AN ANTI-HERO, DID I MISS SOME CRUCIAL LORE?

    • @Mister_Shoe
      @Mister_Shoe 2 дні тому +9

      I don't think GT knows their DMC

    • @Otherguy1
      @Otherguy1 2 дні тому

      They just saying he's cool

    • @Solopetelo-ev5kw
      @Solopetelo-ev5kw 2 дні тому +4

      He technically was an anti hero in dmc 3. And the designers were intending to make him look like an anti hero. But since then he's definitely become a hero

    • @Bill_Door123
      @Bill_Door123 2 дні тому +1

      Geralt isn't an antihero either

    • @pimi8522
      @pimi8522 2 дні тому +3

      Anti hero’s definition means a hero that doesn’t exhibit the characteristics of a normal hero. A kind, courageous figure like most protagonists. Being a little edgy or rougher is enough to be technically identified as an anti hero

  • @francescoleone5517
    @francescoleone5517 2 дні тому +95

    Shadow still hates 8 year olds tails

    • @justaperson4656
      @justaperson4656 День тому +2

      A tradition of beating tails that continues with the movie 🥰

  • @33pandagamer
    @33pandagamer 2 дні тому +2

    Maria's wish was not for Shadow to save humanity it was for Shadow to give humanity a chance. Also even if her final wish was for Shadow to save humanity, defeating the Final Hazard would not be the end of that. For Maria didn't say "save humanity from the Biolizard" or "save humanity from Gerald's Revenge plan". Maria said "Shaodw, give them a chance to be happy and live for their dreams" which if interpreted as "save humanity" then she never specified from what or for how long, so just defeating one threat doesn't constitute as saving humanity.

  • @clarehidalgo
    @clarehidalgo 2 дні тому +4

    9:55 Last I checked all the Anthropomorphic animals in Sonic are aliens

  • @stevenlovci1433
    @stevenlovci1433 2 дні тому +55

    Tom is losing his sanity much faster than mat did.

  • @EDCOR3FNAF
    @EDCOR3FNAF 2 дні тому +79

    ngl I think that shadow is probably the best in Sonic prime. Mean, but also has character development. Hopefully the movie lives up to the trailer.

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @JudaBoi
      @JudaBoi 2 дні тому +2

      Shadows definitely the best in archie

    • @CaptainF123
      @CaptainF123 2 дні тому +4

      I think so far he peaked in 06

    • @williamnduka1026
      @williamnduka1026 2 дні тому

      ​@@JudaBoisonic universe did wonders for his character

    • @diegobanos6190
      @diegobanos6190 2 дні тому +4

      "I just love latinas, Sonic"

  • @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704
    @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704 2 дні тому +29

    Okay, tell me why did I open this video thinking "If you told me Shadow is Jesus I would instantly agree, but genie?? I need an explanation right now."

    • @octonine6212
      @octonine6212 2 дні тому +5

      of course Shadow couldn't be Jesus... Knuckles already is.

    • @amitsrivastava1236
      @amitsrivastava1236 2 дні тому +1

      wait if knuckles is Jesus
      does that mean knuckles
      enemy is satan. wait ...
      knuckles hates Egg-man
      EGG-MAN IS SATAN

    • @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704
      @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@octonine6212 oh god, now THAT is something I've never heard before haha, how is Knuckles Jesus??

    • @AnnStyle
      @AnnStyle 2 дні тому +1

      @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704 I mean he did rise from the dead

    • @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704
      @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704 2 дні тому

      @@AnnStyle oh!.. yeahhh I get it, I get it, haha

  • @MrMToomey
    @MrMToomey 2 дні тому +2

    14:02 Today I learned Tom thinks birds are genies. I...I dont know what to do with this information.

  • @sandjgaez257
    @sandjgaez257 2 дні тому +2

    Tom, please, you’ve just started. It’s too soon for your “Sans is Ness” arc!

  • @Gogs-mf8do
    @Gogs-mf8do 2 дні тому +11

    Cool parallels, but the Genie stuff really ends there. The Black Arms not only are really different from the Babylonians (one being a parasite species that consumes planets while the other being a highly advanced dimension hopping race), the wings part really fall flat when you realize they were just talking about the Magic carpet/Extreme gear, the giving wings isn't literal, it's being given the power of flying. Plus Black Doom's design is way more going for Satan then a genie.
    Like I said before, cool parallels but that's kinda it.

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 2 дні тому +18

    Seems like if Shadow was a genie it would have come up in Secret Rings

  • @ultrazackgaming7461
    @ultrazackgaming7461 2 дні тому +32

    17:58 , I would love to see sonic unleashed get a remake

  • @lexisinnett3151
    @lexisinnett3151 2 дні тому +2

    Here’s something. Shadow is made in a lab with alien dna and if he was a genie, then Maria would be on earth (I’m assuming that she said she wishes she could be on earth at least once around shadow) so no he’s not a genie

  • @MilkyMoo-z4q
    @MilkyMoo-z4q 17 годин тому +1

    The sentence is crazy out of context 16:12

  • @jamesesterline
    @jamesesterline 2 дні тому +13

    They did it, they made a more insane theory than Sans is Ness

    • @JeremyKent-td8ed
      @JeremyKent-td8ed 2 дні тому

      well at least he didn't say shadow is literally a genie xd

  • @elecsnake4888
    @elecsnake4888 2 дні тому +73

    these just keep getting weirder. next thing you know, fredddy fazbear is a god

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому +1

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.🎉❤❤😊😊

    • @gtothem1850
      @gtothem1850 2 дні тому +5

      You mean he isn't?

    • @Youngertaker
      @Youngertaker 2 дні тому +6

      No, Bonnie is a god, we know because, according to Scott, he defy’s all rules of our universe

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 2 дні тому +2

      You can thank Matt for setting him up to go nuts.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 2 дні тому +1

      @Youngertaker
      Bonnie uses Chaos Control to warp around Freddy's Pizzeria and Foxy is Tails Doll's long-lost cousin

  • @evanmarcus5975
    @evanmarcus5975 2 дні тому +1

    I love when this channel just turns into a literary analysis book report of two vaguely similar stories

  • @winnerthecoolguy2009
    @winnerthecoolguy2009 2 дні тому +21

    Why'd they do Maria so dirty 3:28 😭

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 2 дні тому +78

    Of course the Ultimate lifeform is a genie

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому +1

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.🎉🎉🎉

    • @wayverleesoulsong
      @wayverleesoulsong 2 дні тому

      @@alphaa2010beg harder

  • @Jintenzo
    @Jintenzo 2 дні тому +64

    3:05 His what

  • @Jaxontv-fh8kz
    @Jaxontv-fh8kz День тому +1

    You only have 4 days left, the gorilla tag fans need information about the next update you need to talk about Lucy, the ghost, giant gorilla skulls, and the magic glass orb things

  • @jamesmartin6050
    @jamesmartin6050 2 дні тому +4

    14:05 - genie aliens

  • @sikosonix901
    @sikosonix901 2 дні тому +10

    Love the video, but I do want to correct one fact. There is a reason Gerald put those inhibitor rings on him. It was to limit his powers, but it was also for his own sake. Like you said, Gerald needed Black Doom's DNA to do this, but with that came an immense amount of power. Shadow cannot control all of that doom and chaos energy inside him, that's why he has the inhibitor rings. If he takes them of, it's very exhausting to use chaos energy. In Sonic X we see that he tires out extremely fast when fighting without chaos energy. They're not there to limit him, but protect him.

  • @wyatt8315
    @wyatt8315 2 дні тому +101

    Ah yes, Ethnically Diverse Sonic

    • @halosonar9248
      @halosonar9248 2 дні тому +2

      😂

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 2 дні тому +2

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @DrCocofruit
      @DrCocofruit 2 дні тому

      I mean, we have Knuckles so Shadow ain't even the first XD

    • @Mr.Spanky
      @Mr.Spanky 2 дні тому +1

      Y'all taking it too far

  • @rayleenay
    @rayleenay 2 дні тому +25

    0:42 me anytime someone randomly puts the big light on

  • @zoeyk1455
    @zoeyk1455 2 дні тому +1

    What a fun theory! Glad to see that the out there theories continue on :D

  • @felidae47
    @felidae47 2 дні тому +2

    what????? he’s a hedgehog. HIS NAME IS SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG

  • @Stars_soul
    @Stars_soul 2 дні тому +26

    :( 3:04 why bro

    • @Lhebog
      @Lhebog 2 дні тому +9

      he's not wrong tho

    • @Stars_soul
      @Stars_soul 2 дні тому +5

      @@Lhebog Ik 😭

    • @UrLoPi02
      @UrLoPi02 2 дні тому +2

      Because

    • @ImigcoboTunyiswa
      @ImigcoboTunyiswa 2 дні тому +2

      WWWHHHHOOOOOAAAAA WWWWHHHHHOOOOOOOOAAAAAA WWHHOOAA
      TOM WATCH WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT 🫢

    • @rafsylgamer2
      @rafsylgamer2 2 дні тому +2

      Bro caught lackin 😭🙏

  • @maddoxreddish4352
    @maddoxreddish4352 2 дні тому +11

    The inhibitor rings are so shadow doesnt overexert himself and he can remove them whenever he wants, theyre just so he doesnt get tired after using like 3 attacks, in sonic x he had to take off the rings to fight knuckles and was tired out from a apindash and other fights before he got the rings back

    • @AndyBanandy10
      @AndyBanandy10 2 дні тому

      I'm surprised they didn't even mention Sonic X in this video

  • @virtualspan
    @virtualspan 2 дні тому +2

    This is more so proving that Shadow has genie elements to him, but not that he is one.

  • @thegurdiangaming
    @thegurdiangaming День тому +2

    "sans is ness" and "gregory is a robot" vibes

  • @wonkyslushgamer
    @wonkyslushgamer 2 дні тому +15

    Shadow was genetically crafted in a lab, sure he gained DNA from a genielike creature, but he simply is a life form.

  • @Son-of-Gondor
    @Son-of-Gondor 2 дні тому +10

    I can’t believe he just badmouthed Sonic Unleashed. That game was amazing!

    • @UnknownAccount______
      @UnknownAccount______ 2 дні тому +4

      Loved it as a girl and heck, even the animations/shorts for SU were nice.

    • @lunashasarts
      @lunashasarts 2 дні тому +2

      Frrr, the Werehog is the goat

  • @froakachu8077
    @froakachu8077 2 дні тому +9

    A Sonic the Hedgehog theory about Genies that doesn't even mention Sonic and the Secret Rings is just cursed

    • @the-strange-one
      @the-strange-one 2 дні тому

      *coughs* or kingdom hearts *cough*

    • @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
      @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 2 дні тому

      I'm not exactly a sonic fan or anything, but what does kh have to do with anything with sonic? Was there a crossover I wasn't aware of, or something? Lol.

    • @the-strange-one
      @the-strange-one 2 дні тому

      @@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy its bc the commenter has the kh logo as their pfp so i said what i commented to be funny lol (sorry for the confusion lol)

  • @Saiyan_pokemon
    @Saiyan_pokemon День тому +1

    “ your a colourful bunch… “ 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Kazdow
    @Kazdow 2 дні тому +2

    3:05 his WHAT?!😭

  • @KnightsOfCamelore
    @KnightsOfCamelore 2 дні тому +10

    There is also a Sonic the Hedgehog game inspired by 1,001 Arabian Nights called “Sonic and the Secret Rings”.

  • @Miksy51
    @Miksy51 2 дні тому +11

    Shadow 🤝 Hoopa
    Being Djinns
    (Probably.)
    Edit:
    Tom be wilding with Rouge and Shadow
    BUT MY BOI HOOPA GOT MENTIONED!!!
    AT 6:34 !!!! Yayyyy let's gooooo!!!!!!

  • @skywilder
    @skywilder 2 дні тому +7

    "RULE34 TREASURE STEALING ALLY!"
    WILLLLLDDDDDD OH MY GOD 😂😂😂

  • @kadonpalma1600
    @kadonpalma1600 2 дні тому +1

    this is it. its taken me a while to warm up to tom. but this is what sold me. I think I'm getting used to Tom and the others as the hosts and accepting mat being gone. Thank you, Tom

  • @M1crowav001
    @M1crowav001 2 дні тому +2

    Teachers walking into the classroom without their daily dose of 547 cups of coffee 0:09

  • @Jubilant_JayGaming
    @Jubilant_JayGaming 2 дні тому +5

    "Shadows story began a lot like yours Sonic. But where you found family and friends, Shadow found only pain and loss" 16:21

  • @matthewtheking8989
    @matthewtheking8989 2 дні тому +21

    Bro shadow in the sonic 3 movie is gonna SLAP

  • @khythedestroyer
    @khythedestroyer 2 дні тому +7

    We're just not going to mention the Sonic Arabian Nights game, Sonic and the Secret Rings?

  • @Distant_Dubstep
    @Distant_Dubstep 2 дні тому +1

    Y'all seriously crafted a entire theory off 1 single throwaway comment he made to Eggman.