Game Theory: Shadow Is ACTUALLY A Genie?! (Sonic The Hedgehog)

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @Kulkogo
    @Kulkogo Місяць тому +1651

    “You can make three wishes”
    *I want to bring Maria back*
    “You can make three wishes except for that”

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman Місяць тому +55

      "There are a few, uh, provisos. A couple of quid pro quos."

    • @Bandicooch
      @Bandicooch Місяць тому +33

      "That is beyond my power " -Shenron

    • @amamplay
      @amamplay Місяць тому +4

      Raaaarh!!!!

    • @pkmntrainermark8881
      @pkmntrainermark8881 Місяць тому +19

      "It's not a pretty picture. I don't like doing it!"

    • @warrencosgrove-r1k
      @warrencosgrove-r1k Місяць тому +9

      But that would kinda remove you from the story altogether...
      -genie

  • @neonthehedgehog12
    @neonthehedgehog12 Місяць тому +4948

    Your finally having your "Sans is Ness" moment.

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 Місяць тому +142

      I still believe that to a degree. So you can't say that is 100 percent crazy

    • @Niaz-m9t
      @Niaz-m9t Місяць тому +58

      this needs to be pinned

    • @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS
      @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS Місяць тому +38

      Honestly I hope they pin this one

    • @d4560yt
      @d4560yt Місяць тому +50

      Sans is Shadow 😱

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 Місяць тому +53

      Being fair,, in this case? They actually HAVE referenced the Arabian Nights in an entire game with Secret Rings.

  • @Superdan4290
    @Superdan4290 Місяць тому +271

    A Sonic theory about a genie, and there’s absolutely NO mention of Sonic and the Secret Rings? I wonder if there wasn’t enough lore connections, or if he just forgot it existed 😂 I wouldn’t blame him

    • @Nox.x_ART
      @Nox.x_ART Місяць тому +3

      Why is part of your comment blue

    • @Superdan4290
      @Superdan4290 Місяць тому +3

      @@Nox.x_ART I don’t see any blue

    • @vbarreiro
      @vbarreiro Місяць тому +6

      @@Nox.x_ARTNew youtube update

    • @franciscochambolle5974
      @franciscochambolle5974 Місяць тому

      i'm almost sure this game isn't canon (even thaught the sonic twitter said everything is canon, it could still be canon but on a different timeline, like the movie timeline)

    • @jeeby7117
      @jeeby7117 Місяць тому

      i was about to say it because of "genie of the ring, not the lamp"

  • @masterskygamer306
    @masterskygamer306 Місяць тому +751

    the fact that Sonic and the Secret Rings was not mentioned once, only off hand referenced with the genie in the ring comment, in a theory about genies is a crime

    • @drmeow6203
      @drmeow6203 Місяць тому +14

      I think this game is not canon? so there's really no point to mention it for the canon timeline theory

    • @OtZillaFM
      @OtZillaFM Місяць тому +73

      @@drmeow6203 Sonic mentions "rescuing genies in magic books" after rescuing Tails in Sonic Generations.
      So yeah, It's Canon

    • @ItsCenrryTH
      @ItsCenrryTH Місяць тому +10

      ​@@drmeow6203
      Secret Rings is canon, though.
      Though, I don't believe there was a Shadow variant in that story. Only in Black Knight

    • @RemedieX
      @RemedieX Місяць тому +2

      ​@@drmeow6203 Pretty sure Sega themselves said all games are canon in a tweet somewhere 😂

    • @Hyp3rSon1X
      @Hyp3rSon1X Місяць тому +8

      @@drmeow6203 Even Sonic 06 is canon. But the game retcons/cancels itself in the end and makes it so everything that happened in the game, didn't actually happen in the canon timeline.
      I honestly don't know of any Sonic game that is considered non canon. The only non canon thing in the Sonic universe is maybe the Archie comics.

  • @Slimeeify
    @Slimeeify Місяць тому +1214

    15:52 The reason he keeps them on is actually simpler than that, his unrestrained power takes a toll on his physical body, so the rings are more so here to stabilise shadow.

    • @MinerMario
      @MinerMario Місяць тому +122

      Plus, he can take them off at will if needed.

    • @deadersurvival4716
      @deadersurvival4716 Місяць тому +2

      Source?

    • @pandora5051
      @pandora5051 Місяць тому +110

      ​@@deadersurvival4716 Literally Sonic 06

    • @christopherrisher1882
      @christopherrisher1882 Місяць тому +21

      It while he's fight mephlise

    • @deadersurvival4716
      @deadersurvival4716 Місяць тому +8

      @@pandora5051 Pardon me, I don't remember an almost two decade old game that I never played or had access to verbatim. Do you mind being a _bit_ more specific?

  • @MoogiBoi
    @MoogiBoi Місяць тому +83

    Dude Game Theory with Tom has actually been so nice and refreshing. I've still been looking forward to every upload. Good videos man keep it up

    • @Shotgunspixie
      @Shotgunspixie Місяць тому +2

      Matt would've gone on a five minute tangent about the Archie comics.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 Місяць тому +618

    I can definitely see the argument that they were thematic parallels between Shadow’s story and genies lore, but I don’t think that makes him an actual genie.
    The series has aliens that are mistaken for genies, like you mentioned, but then there are also actual genies in Sonic & The Secret Rings. It’s been over a decade and a half since genies were introduced into the series so I feel like if they wanted to address any literal connections between shadow and genies it would’ve been brought up at this point.
    However, if we’re looking up as purely from a thematic level rather than a literal one, I can get behind the theory that his story parallels of genie mythology

    • @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712
      @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 Місяць тому +53

      Agree. The theory seems to make sense with the resemblances, yet it still don’t make Shadow a literal genie, as it’s never canonically implied to be.

    • @LycanDreams9159
      @LycanDreams9159 Місяць тому +31

      I’m pretty sure sonic and the secret rings is a story book that sonic falls into magically just like sonic and the black knight. I’m not sure if the genies in that game exist in the real world where sonic and shadow lives. That still leaves the possibility that the aliens that were confused to be genies could still be related to if not literally the black arms

    • @jadeninjaproductions7007
      @jadeninjaproductions7007 Місяць тому +1

      I agree.

    • @RakoonCD
      @RakoonCD Місяць тому +4

      Especially since Sonic is meant to be a fairytale creature/protagonist.
      Like Pinocchio, Mario, Peter Pan.

    • @drybonesmunchakoopas5143
      @drybonesmunchakoopas5143 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@LycanDreams9159in generations sonic says he's fought genies so it's real. Plus it's the genie magic that brought him into it in the first place, can't exactly enter a book without magic

  • @Albionic_
    @Albionic_ Місяць тому +3894

    Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how Tom's theories have somehow become even MORE deranged than Matpat's were?

    • @Kels_OJ
      @Kels_OJ Місяць тому +135

      At least Matt had some real theories, this is just some far oversimplification of a good story.

    • @masonng4425
      @masonng4425 Місяць тому +74

      Sans is Ness part 2

    • @TheJordanJonas
      @TheJordanJonas Місяць тому +37

      Yeah I don’t know this theory really doesn’t stick

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому +9

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊❤❤❤

    • @zadock6370
      @zadock6370 Місяць тому +28

      he will never top the absurdity of wall-e being satan

  • @oumarbrouwer2763
    @oumarbrouwer2763 Місяць тому +29

    This is the type of game theory I love something outrageous that can be justified, even if the beginning was a bit stretched

  • @Flipdew
    @Flipdew Місяць тому +1874

    This is easily the most nonsensical title I've ever seen from Theory.
    Idk how they'll back this up but I'm weirdly excited.

    • @CreeperTheNotable
      @CreeperTheNotable Місяць тому +14

      I agree lol

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому +2

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.❤❤❤

    • @CreeperTheNotable
      @CreeperTheNotable Місяць тому +19

      Matpat also used to make unhinged titles

    • @joelsasmad
      @joelsasmad Місяць тому +15

      ​@@CreeperTheNotableIt is good to see them back

    • @DaRealICantThinkOfAUsername
      @DaRealICantThinkOfAUsername Місяць тому +19

      Sans is Ness: am I a joke to you?
      Deadpool is *insert name here* : am I a joke to you?

  • @sharonv3597
    @sharonv3597 Місяць тому +207

    Was kinda hoping for a sonic and the secret rings mention, because that game is ABOUT GENIES

    • @NintendoSegaGuys
      @NintendoSegaGuys Місяць тому +6

      Same.

    • @MyronZhang
      @MyronZhang Місяць тому +16

      Yeah, I'm surprised that wasn't referenced even once. Although Shadow has nothing to do with it outside of the multiplayer, Sonic calls back to it in Generations. So it's canon that Sonic went inside the Arabian Nights, and that Shahra and Erazor Djinn (genies) exist.

    • @yamiru3417
      @yamiru3417 Місяць тому +2

      @@MyronZhang also because of this shadow story being related to that of the book wouldn't be too far out. but shadow isn't actually a genie

  • @voia_online
    @voia_online Місяць тому +11

    "rule34 treasure stealing ally" is WILD

  • @wockytalkie8352
    @wockytalkie8352 Місяць тому +973

    So wait, you make a theory about genies, and NOT mention sonic and the secret rings?

    • @Tyler-mk2lt
      @Tyler-mk2lt Місяць тому +94

      its probably because in the sonic cannon secret rings took place when sonic was transported into the world of a storybook
      hence the name 'the storybook series'

    • @Mega-Bits
      @Mega-Bits Місяць тому +13

      He sure did.

    • @vinkennest3274
      @vinkennest3274 Місяць тому +28

      Unless you learn that sonic mentions erazor jinn in generations

    • @GrimmysReviews
      @GrimmysReviews Місяць тому +27

      What's worse is he mentions a genie of the lamp and genie of the ring, who both have incarnations in Secret Rings, but fails to mention the actual "no scientific explanation" genies that Sonic has met in Secret Rings, and mentioned in Generations' 2nd or 3rd cutscenes

    • @rinny5500
      @rinny5500 Місяць тому +4

      Exactly this

  • @gradientelz1899
    @gradientelz1899 Місяць тому +353

    7:43 "I'VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. SHADOW THE HEADGEHOG IS A-"

  • @ShockwaveLogicalEditz
    @ShockwaveLogicalEditz Місяць тому +29

    The Game Theorists, I have a theory for you: How the HECK were the structures in Angry Birds built if NONE of the characters have arms?

  • @haydenbutler37
    @haydenbutler37 Місяць тому +243

    Tom, without the rings, Shadow can actually die from the Chaos Energy. Without them, he's much more vulnerable to damage.

    • @noblesseoblige319
      @noblesseoblige319 Місяць тому +2

      Wait when was that revealed?

    • @maddoxreddish4352
      @maddoxreddish4352 Місяць тому

      @@noblesseoblige319 well he wont really die from what i know, but he overexerts himself far to quickly and gets tired without the inhibitor rings [which is seen in season 3 of sonic x when he doesnt have the inhibitor rings and gets super tired after every battle], and he can take them off at will [as seen in sonic 06 when he popped them off and blitz through a army of mephilses]

  • @Tby399
    @Tby399 Місяць тому +434

    1:05 'For his neutral special, he wields a gun'

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 Місяць тому +3

      I didn't know that Shadow was American

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 Місяць тому +4

      @@alphaa2010 shut up

    • @ssokkjh
      @ssokkjh Місяць тому +3

      ​@@TheMastermind7259 Nah he IS america

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 Місяць тому

      @@ssokkjh if the developers of Sonic knew what they're doing...

  • @Im_Ice_Cream_808
    @Im_Ice_Cream_808 Місяць тому +5

    The reason why Shadow wears the inhibitor rings is because he can't handle the chaos energy throughout his body otherwise he use too much energy for him to use.

  • @XDLottaMoths
    @XDLottaMoths Місяць тому +666

    You missed the point of the inhibitor rings. The rings were made not to weaken shadow but to keep his power at the limit his body can handle. When the inhibitor rings are off, Shadow’s overwhelming power is too much for his body and so Gerald created the inhibitor rings to ensure that shadow wouldn’t accidentally explode. Also, fun fact, despite being compared to Vegeta every 3 minutes, it was recently revealed that the biggest inspiration for Shadow’s character was the anti-hero Spawn

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite Місяць тому +29

      That still technically weakening him

    • @XDLottaMoths
      @XDLottaMoths Місяць тому +84

      @@stargazer-elite my point was that they weren't built to restrain him. They were built to protect him from his power

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite Місяць тому +15

      @@XDLottaMoths fair enough

    • @BlurBlizzard
      @BlurBlizzard Місяць тому +17

      His concept art cited vegeta as inspiration. They just dont share personalities, but he is also inspired by Vegeta

    • @SupremeSR
      @SupremeSR Місяць тому +6

      Wait I didn’t recall him potentially exploding… I remember the fan made Shadow movie which was super accurate with their facts saying his body constantly went from “regular hedgehog to super” and that put a strain on his body, and that’s why they couldn’t read his dna. So Shadow has the potential to go super without his inhibitor rings. But exploding? Oh heck naw not my boi ☹️🖤

  • @SpongeBobFanatic2K6
    @SpongeBobFanatic2K6 Місяць тому +609

    At least he’s not like that other Genie whose Jordans are completely fake, has absolutely no maidens, and hasn’t even thought about buying Spotify Premium.

    • @devilrawr
      @devilrawr Місяць тому +15

      reference

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @FoxyPercival714
      @FoxyPercival714 Місяць тому +1

      Hey Kazam is awesome.

    • @CMJ321
      @CMJ321 Місяць тому +2

      I love that meme

    • @Miksy51
      @Miksy51 Місяць тому +2

      6:34
      Also My boi Hoopa mentioned AAAaaaAAAAa!!!
      ^v^

  • @Nic_64
    @Nic_64 Місяць тому +4

    I'm shocked he didn't mention the devs literally made a Sonic game based on Arabian Nights (Sonic and the Secret Rings)

  • @ProudOrbit217
    @ProudOrbit217 Місяць тому +151

    Shadow really has some of the most unique character growth
    Love to see it.

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому +2

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @colekleijnen2060
      @colekleijnen2060 Місяць тому +3

      As long as you ignore the 2010s

  • @wilwix_stoleyourman
    @wilwix_stoleyourman Місяць тому +4801

    I miss my wife Tom.

    • @Artistic_Dumbass
      @Artistic_Dumbass Місяць тому +285

      Ill be back

    • @soap_cat
      @soap_cat Місяць тому +111

      The way I screamed w happiness

    • @JustAFantasy2015
      @JustAFantasy2015 Місяць тому +133

      I’ve come to make sn announcement

    • @Maximum05
      @Maximum05 Місяць тому +118

      I miss her alot

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому +42

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

  • @LimePlaysgames-Lime
    @LimePlaysgames-Lime Місяць тому +2

    Shadow is a genie.
    Erazor jinn "am i a joke to you" Lol

  • @LocalGiganfan1980
    @LocalGiganfan1980 Місяць тому +193

    I think Game theory is starting to go insane.
    MatPat really was like. “Just go nuts with it guys just go nuts with it!”

  • @Spazzboy911
    @Spazzboy911 Місяць тому +175

    "Technically it was the genie of the ring"
    You do know that both Sonic and Shadow pick up rings, right? You didn't draw that parallel?

    • @justinpritt7897
      @justinpritt7897 Місяць тому +14

      Sonic also has a ring on his finger in sonic and the secret rings who is a master to a genie.

    • @nightshed3693
      @nightshed3693 Місяць тому

      I wanna call out that Amy also has rings too 🤣

  • @ouch1423
    @ouch1423 Місяць тому +6

    I learned 2 things from this video:
    1. Why Shadow is a Genie.
    2. What Whiscash is based off of.

  • @inciniratr8445
    @inciniratr8445 Місяць тому +73

    SECRET RINGS WAS NOT BROUGHT UP ONCE 💀

    • @bryandacote8109
      @bryandacote8109 Місяць тому +11

      Shows how much research this channel does

  • @Micolino9878
    @Micolino9878 Місяць тому +114

    One would think Sonic and the Secret Rings, the game that has the most clear cut genie in the franchise, would make an appearance in this discussion.

    • @zm2mad9
      @zm2mad9 Місяць тому +18

      There's also Iblis from sonic 06, a character named from a particularly infamous jinn in Islam who serves as basically a Satan analogue

    • @TheDark4light
      @TheDark4light Місяць тому +4

      Was the first thing I thought of. I figured "okay, if he uses that along with the inhibitor rings then maybe." As it stands? Nope.

    • @redschafer7804
      @redschafer7804 Місяць тому

      ya but Shadow wasn't in that game so it doesn't make any sense for this theory. i mean even using the sonic riders game is a reach

    • @phxrebirth
      @phxrebirth Місяць тому

      Not to mention there's also a genie that's a penultimate final boss in Sonic Riders

    • @Micolino9878
      @Micolino9878 Місяць тому +1

      @@phxrebirth That one WAS mentioned.

  • @ParadoxProblems
    @ParadoxProblems Місяць тому +1

    This isn't genie "inspiration" any more than Mewtwo's origin is genie inspiration.

  • @avarisu6280
    @avarisu6280 Місяць тому +100

    "I will grant you one wish"
    -Does something that technically fulfills the wish but no one is happy with, especially the wisher
    Yeah he's definitely a genie.

  • @AbdulAhad-hm1xd
    @AbdulAhad-hm1xd Місяць тому +53

    The reason he has the rings on is because well yeah it limits him but if he took them it could be really dangerous for him that's why still has them

  • @kaykat0134
    @kaykat0134 Місяць тому +2

    I am so happy that there's finally a Sonic theory going in depth about the interesting lore and not just science taking a dump on my boy!

  • @ac_aces1657
    @ac_aces1657 Місяць тому +111

    It's only been 6 months, and Tom has already lost it 😂

    • @MrGavoToYou
      @MrGavoToYou Місяць тому +8

      I didn’t think he’d last this long

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 Місяць тому +9

      He been working for Matt for a while. He probably just had his ideas locked away. Once he was the new host. His mind escaped and now is going nuts.

    • @raptorzeraora2632
      @raptorzeraora2632 Місяць тому +1

      6 months?!

  • @okami_ez
    @okami_ez Місяць тому +75

    ok it doesn't really imply that Shadow is a Genie, it just implies that Shadow has the same backstory as the Genie BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE SHADOW A GENIE

  • @royalrainboo6940
    @royalrainboo6940 Місяць тому +1

    Shadow was also a robot, just like Gregory who is also Dave the crying child who owns a stripped shirt like Ness who we all know is Sans...

  • @sirparker2881
    @sirparker2881 Місяць тому +39

    He didn’t even acknowledge Sonic and the Secret Rings, an ENTIRE GAME BASED UPON THE ARABIAN NIGHTS STORY. They definitely researched that and since they took it nowhere, they made a mainline game off of it to not waste their research.

  • @hutothetao
    @hutothetao Місяць тому +198

    Well he’s finally lost it. Didn’t manage to outlast matpat

  • @CRAZY_DAGGER
    @CRAZY_DAGGER Місяць тому +1

    I clicked on this and got an ad saying, "looks like you're watching game theory"

  • @kevinstothers3189
    @kevinstothers3189 Місяць тому +49

    The little editor note told me to say, "Tom is a lil' crazy guy!" and I can not disobey that sassy little cartoon in the corner of these videos.

    • @thehansboi
      @thehansboi Місяць тому +1

      Where's that btw?

    • @kevinstothers3189
      @kevinstothers3189 Місяць тому +1

      @@thehansboi Near the start of the video when Tom is insisting that he's not crazy.

  • @andyshirer610
    @andyshirer610 Місяць тому +90

    I can't believe that not once during the entire video where he goes on about the Arabian nights, Tom not once mentions "Sonic and the Secret Rings" which has sonic go into the actual book.

    • @JeremyKent-td8ed
      @JeremyKent-td8ed Місяць тому

      is Sonic and the Secret Rings have something to do with shadow or even the babylon ?

    • @Darth_Spyro
      @Darth_Spyro Місяць тому +2

      ​@@JeremyKent-td8ed Nope. Which is why he didn't mention them. They're not at all relevant to the theory 😂

    • @JeremyKent-td8ed
      @JeremyKent-td8ed Місяць тому +2

      @@Darth_Spyro Yeah that why im just Wondering why they ask about it XD

    • @oojclops7257
      @oojclops7257 Місяць тому +3

      @@Darth_Spyro I'd argue it's good supporting evidence how the sonic series continuously draws inspiration from Arabic legends, showing how it isn't a stretch in logic that the Babylonians are related to genies

    • @torii1514
      @torii1514 Місяць тому

      They probably didn’t mention it because the Shadow in the Story isn’t “really shadow” he’s just playing as a known historic figure in that game. Following the plot of that story has nothing to do with the Canon Story of Shadow.

  • @blitsriderfield4099
    @blitsriderfield4099 Місяць тому +1

    The inhibitor rings aren't to "symbolize his servitude" or whatever that nonsense was. They keep him from exploding because his body cant contain that much power properly

  • @RanTheGreat2000s
    @RanTheGreat2000s Місяць тому +67

    1:35 Bro's turning into Matpat

    • @MrGavoToYou
      @MrGavoToYou Місяць тому

      🍩

    • @duel-chip5
      @duel-chip5 Місяць тому

      I knew that from the start

    • @Z3pH4x
      @Z3pH4x Місяць тому +3

      HES STARTING TO GO INSANE

  • @codeprimeproductions6603
    @codeprimeproductions6603 Місяць тому +66

    7:41 This line is miss translated. In the original Japanese version he says "I shall grant you your wish." and it was mistranslated in the American version. Because of this it is more unlikely that you can relate the genie theory to this one line.

  • @not_nyxxy
    @not_nyxxy Місяць тому +1

    “He’s just like Sonic but better” yea he is

  • @YannickJur
    @YannickJur Місяць тому +399

    When you think Sans is Ness was the most ridiculous thing Game Theory has ever proclaimed

    • @blindedjourneyman
      @blindedjourneyman Місяць тому +19

      Oh for sure! This one definitely takes the cake for weird and seemingly dim.

    • @AmazingEmerald
      @AmazingEmerald Місяць тому

      Fr

    • @tyukogames
      @tyukogames Місяць тому +4

      Nah, remeber gregory is a robot?

    • @AmazingEmerald
      @AmazingEmerald Місяць тому +6

      @@tyukogames he was right though

    • @yousufkhurram9585
      @yousufkhurram9585 Місяць тому +8

      @@tyukogames well mat was right though lol

  • @SarahAbramova
    @SarahAbramova Місяць тому +21

    Hey, Tom, I know you probably skipped it, because it's Sonic 06, but Shadow can actually take those rings off himself.

  • @jamesmartin6050
    @jamesmartin6050 Місяць тому +11

    14:05 - genie aliens

  • @ChaosStar27
    @ChaosStar27 Місяць тому +83

    16:13 No Tom, he's not
    don't think you remember but he wears the inhibitor rings to LIMIT his powers. He does this cause he wants to.
    Also the Babalonians are SO much different than the Black Arms.
    Babalonians can grant wishes and The Black Arms can't
    Then you might ask "how is Shadow Able to possess the Doom Powers?" Because He's part alien Duh.
    He has Black Arms blood in his veins and these egg like things are only activating his Black Arms abilities cause he hasn't done so yet.
    With Shadow being Black Arms, he should be able to use these abilities due to his blood.
    He's using them as his own in order to destroy Doom.
    Tom, Buddy, you need to actually do your research before theorizing.

    • @forrestfyre7846
      @forrestfyre7846 Місяць тому +21

      1. Absolutely agree with you
      2. This is the same thing that happened with UT/DT and MatPat where there was zero research done
      3. Shadow actually wears the Chaos Inhibitors so he doesn't die from overexertion. The more ya know

    • @bryandacote8109
      @bryandacote8109 Місяць тому +3

      Game Theory actually do research anymore? Forget it. These videos years ago became about shock value entertainment for kids and teenagers.

    • @ArtskyAnimation
      @ArtskyAnimation Місяць тому +2

      Bro cooked w this comment

    • @garethharriott9582
      @garethharriott9582 Місяць тому

      You literally said theorizing, my gee, it's not that deep, don't take this channel seriously, it's mostly for fun

  • @knights4eva981
    @knights4eva981 Місяць тому +30

    Beginning: "Yep, Tom's gone insane."
    End: "Of course he managed to convince me. He always manages to convince me..."

  • @BenjaminBroom-n4r
    @BenjaminBroom-n4r Місяць тому +4

    7:09 well you do know that they inhibit his power for his own good as he just dies without them

  • @ItsChevnotJeff
    @ItsChevnotJeff Місяць тому +50

    Man, I hate it when my genie leaks my sensitive information online, urinates on my significant other, and just be a general nuisance about it

  • @winnerthecoolguy2009
    @winnerthecoolguy2009 Місяць тому +33

    Why'd they do Maria so dirty 3:28 😭

  • @DazzlingNishi
    @DazzlingNishi 18 днів тому +1

    i almost started crying at the end. also, the moment you said shadow was an alien i instantly went "oh yea obviously the aliens ARE the genies that's the most logical conclusion"

  • @50percentGrey
    @50percentGrey Місяць тому +87

    Amy Rose has gold bracelets and yet she's able to summon a giant mallet at will. Is she also a "genie"? She's always wanting to be with Sonic, like she wants to grant him a big wish. Right?

    • @juliemesser2053
      @juliemesser2053 Місяць тому +10

      Now this is something!

    • @haydenbutler37
      @haydenbutler37 Місяць тому +7

      She can also go invisible in 06

    • @gutembergnery7985
      @gutembergnery7985 15 днів тому

      Let's also not forget she can summon cards around her and ride her broom like a freaking which in Frontiers!

  • @Tomfoolery_man99
    @Tomfoolery_man99 Місяць тому +41

    :( 3:04 why bro

    • @Lhebog
      @Lhebog Місяць тому +13

      he's not wrong tho

    • @Tomfoolery_man99
      @Tomfoolery_man99 Місяць тому +7

      @@Lhebog Ik 😭

    • @UrLoPi02
      @UrLoPi02 Місяць тому +3

      Because

    • @ImigcoboTunyiswa
      @ImigcoboTunyiswa Місяць тому +3

      WWWHHHHOOOOOAAAAA WWWWHHHHHOOOOOOOOAAAAAA WWHHOOAA
      TOM WATCH WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT 🫢

    • @rafsylgamer2
      @rafsylgamer2 Місяць тому +3

      Bro caught lackin 😭🙏

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 Місяць тому +2

    The only genies are the ones in Secret Rings and the ones that the Babylon Rogues are descended from.
    The Black Arms have nothing to do with either group.

  • @MrLightDarkness
    @MrLightDarkness Місяць тому +142

    Uh oh, we’re already mistaking narrative subtext for actual lore.

    • @WhatTheCheick
      @WhatTheCheick Місяць тому +27

      To be honest while I do think the same, I think that he's not inherently wrong, like Shadow isn't literally a genie, but all the analysis makes sense in a regard
      I was skeptical until the second half
      The proposed lore isn't actually much more than just that subtext

  • @TruBluAnims
    @TruBluAnims Місяць тому +22

    16:07 The reason why Shadow wears inhibitors is because he'd die without them, the Chaos Energy is so immense that it strains his body. Like a Kaio-Ken of sorts.

    • @not_MAK9
      @not_MAK9 Місяць тому

      Thats what i thought

  • @dejaypage1575
    @dejaypage1575 Місяць тому +1

    …Uh, Tom? Tom my man?
    *There are actual Genies in Sonic*

  • @ultrazackgaming7461
    @ultrazackgaming7461 Місяць тому +34

    17:58 , I would love to see sonic unleashed get a remake

  • @sonicjax
    @sonicjax Місяць тому +144

    Like how MatPat thinks Gregory is a robot, Tom thinks shadow is a genie💀

    • @shadetee234
      @shadetee234 Місяць тому +12

      And how Matt thought sans was ness

    • @masedaace5473
      @masedaace5473 Місяць тому +6

      @@sonicjax and yet somehow the Gregory Robot thing is more believable.

    • @Wattson19
      @Wattson19 Місяць тому

      ​​@@shadetee234 He never really believed this, that theory was more of a suggestion than anything

    • @maddoxreddish4352
      @maddoxreddish4352 Місяць тому

      i mean matpat predicted the future with that one with the mimic pretending to be gregory

  • @alexwalker5716
    @alexwalker5716 29 днів тому

    ya know what? I'll give him this one.
    Shadow's probably not a literal genie, but thematically he's got basically everything you need for a genie besides a bottle to be trapped in. and the whole "canonical genie aliens" thing is something I didn't know about.
    well played, Tom.

  • @froakachu8077
    @froakachu8077 Місяць тому +11

    A Sonic the Hedgehog theory about Genies that doesn't even mention Sonic and the Secret Rings is just cursed

    • @the-strange-one
      @the-strange-one Місяць тому

      *coughs* or kingdom hearts *cough*

    • @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
      @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy Місяць тому

      I'm not exactly a sonic fan or anything, but what does kh have to do with anything with sonic? Was there a crossover I wasn't aware of, or something? Lol.

    • @the-strange-one
      @the-strange-one Місяць тому

      @@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy its bc the commenter has the kh logo as their pfp so i said what i commented to be funny lol (sorry for the confusion lol)

  • @BlungesBOAH
    @BlungesBOAH Місяць тому +61

    0:19 SINCE WHEN IS DANTE AN ANTI-HERO, DID I MISS SOME CRUCIAL LORE?

    • @Mister_Shoe
      @Mister_Shoe Місяць тому +9

      I don't think GT knows their DMC

    • @Otherguy1
      @Otherguy1 Місяць тому +1

      They just saying he's cool

    • @Solopetelo-ev5kw
      @Solopetelo-ev5kw Місяць тому +7

      He technically was an anti hero in dmc 3. And the designers were intending to make him look like an anti hero. But since then he's definitely become a hero

    • @Bill_Door123
      @Bill_Door123 Місяць тому +1

      Geralt isn't an antihero either

    • @pimi8522
      @pimi8522 Місяць тому +6

      Anti hero’s definition means a hero that doesn’t exhibit the characteristics of a normal hero. A kind, courageous figure like most protagonists. Being a little edgy or rougher is enough to be technically identified as an anti hero

  • @CastleDarque
    @CastleDarque Місяць тому +1

    This has to be the most unhingerd theory i've seen.

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 Місяць тому +20

    Seems like if Shadow was a genie it would have come up in Secret Rings

  • @elecsnake4888
    @elecsnake4888 Місяць тому +75

    these just keep getting weirder. next thing you know, fredddy fazbear is a god

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому +1

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.🎉❤❤😊😊

    • @gtothem1850
      @gtothem1850 Місяць тому +5

      You mean he isn't?

    • @Youngertaker
      @Youngertaker Місяць тому +6

      No, Bonnie is a god, we know because, according to Scott, he defy’s all rules of our universe

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 Місяць тому +2

      You can thank Matt for setting him up to go nuts.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 Місяць тому +1

      @Youngertaker
      Bonnie uses Chaos Control to warp around Freddy's Pizzeria and Foxy is Tails Doll's long-lost cousin

  • @SpeedBird6780
    @SpeedBird6780 Місяць тому +1

    Artistic inspiration =/= character being that exact thing. Furthermore, fr: You mentioned that the original Arabian nights had the genie of the ring, yet did not mention Sonic & the Secret Rings at all. This indicates tunnel vision.

  • @Jintenzo
    @Jintenzo Місяць тому +64

    3:05 His what

    • @wayverleesoulsong
      @wayverleesoulsong Місяць тому +6

      Oh you sweet summer child

    • @BradStarnes
      @BradStarnes Місяць тому +2

      He's not wrong.

    • @Jintenzo
      @Jintenzo Місяць тому

      @@BradStarnes I feel like there's context I'm missing here

    • @RealConnorMalone
      @RealConnorMalone Місяць тому

      What does that mean?

    • @forrestfyre7846
      @forrestfyre7846 Місяць тому +1

      ​@Jintenzo it's p*rn. He's making a joke about p*rn.

  • @EDCOR3FNAF
    @EDCOR3FNAF Місяць тому +79

    ngl I think that shadow is probably the best in Sonic prime. Mean, but also has character development. Hopefully the movie lives up to the trailer.

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @JudaBoi
      @JudaBoi Місяць тому +2

      Shadows definitely the best in archie

    • @CaptainF123
      @CaptainF123 Місяць тому +4

      I think so far he peaked in 06

    • @williamnduka1026
      @williamnduka1026 Місяць тому

      ​@@JudaBoisonic universe did wonders for his character

    • @diegobanos6190
      @diegobanos6190 Місяць тому +4

      "I just love latinas, Sonic"

  • @bennie1079
    @bennie1079 Місяць тому +1

    black doom?
    we all know his name is "the devil" and he is here to convince shadow to commit sin like stealing candy from small businesses

  • @Gogs-mf8do
    @Gogs-mf8do Місяць тому +13

    Cool parallels, but the Genie stuff really ends there. The Black Arms not only are really different from the Babylonians (one being a parasite species that consumes planets while the other being a highly advanced dimension hopping race), the wings part really fall flat when you realize they were just talking about the Magic carpet/Extreme gear, the giving wings isn't literal, it's being given the power of flying. Plus Black Doom's design is way more going for Satan then a genie.
    Like I said before, cool parallels but that's kinda it.

  • @rayleenay
    @rayleenay Місяць тому +28

    0:42 me anytime someone randomly puts the big light on

  • @simonkifle-no7sr
    @simonkifle-no7sr 29 днів тому +1

    the way they made a concept a genie but somehow twisted it to a different character is so confusing

  • @ChibamiKarim
    @ChibamiKarim Місяць тому +22

    Bro we really got a sans is ness 2.0 like WHAT? Btw 5:10 is a HUGE stretch

  • @stevenlovci1433
    @stevenlovci1433 Місяць тому +56

    Tom is losing his sanity much faster than mat did.

  • @PokeMageTech
    @PokeMageTech 13 днів тому +1

    12:34 - hold up. I’m sorry. What? You’re saying earthquakes cause electrical changes in the earth?!

  • @francescoleone5517
    @francescoleone5517 Місяць тому +96

    Shadow still hates 8 year olds tails

    • @justaperson4656
      @justaperson4656 Місяць тому +2

      A tradition of beating tails that continues with the movie 🥰

  • @Son-of-Gondor
    @Son-of-Gondor Місяць тому +11

    I can’t believe he just badmouthed Sonic Unleashed. That game was amazing!

    • @UnknownAccount______
      @UnknownAccount______ Місяць тому +4

      Loved it as a girl and heck, even the animations/shorts for SU were nice.

    • @lunashasarts
      @lunashasarts Місяць тому +2

      Frrr, the Werehog is the goat

  • @MarwanHadidi
    @MarwanHadidi Місяць тому +2

    13:54 the angel winged boy looks too human to be shadow even in the other drawing 14:50
    Also for this one 15:46 , lore-wise it's because he gets tired if he uses his power without them (like in Sonic X season 3 when he tried destroying a ship)

  • @wyatt8315
    @wyatt8315 Місяць тому +102

    Ah yes, Ethnically Diverse Sonic

    • @halosonar9248
      @halosonar9248 Місяць тому +2

      😂

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому +2

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @DrCocofruit
      @DrCocofruit Місяць тому

      I mean, we have Knuckles so Shadow ain't even the first XD

    • @Mr.Spanky
      @Mr.Spanky Місяць тому +1

      Y'all taking it too far

  • @maddoxreddish4352
    @maddoxreddish4352 Місяць тому +11

    The inhibitor rings are so shadow doesnt overexert himself and he can remove them whenever he wants, theyre just so he doesnt get tired after using like 3 attacks, in sonic x he had to take off the rings to fight knuckles and was tired out from a apindash and other fights before he got the rings back

    • @AndyBanandy10
      @AndyBanandy10 Місяць тому

      I'm surprised they didn't even mention Sonic X in this video

  • @Kiezly
    @Kiezly Місяць тому +2

    “Hopefully he doesn’t become a werehog, nobody wants to see that again.” Umm dude? The werehog is awesome, and a shadow werehog mod for sonic unleashed exists and it looks cool. What’s with the hate towards the sonic universe’s equivalent to dragon ball Z’s Great Ape forms? It’s awesome.

  • @idkthidwmfl_lizok
    @idkthidwmfl_lizok Місяць тому +29

    Okay, tell me why did I open this video thinking "If you told me Shadow is Jesus I would instantly agree, but genie?? I need an explanation right now."

    • @octonine6212
      @octonine6212 Місяць тому +5

      of course Shadow couldn't be Jesus... Knuckles already is.

    • @amitsrivastava1236
      @amitsrivastava1236 Місяць тому +1

      wait if knuckles is Jesus
      does that mean knuckles
      enemy is satan. wait ...
      knuckles hates Egg-man
      EGG-MAN IS SATAN

    • @idkthidwmfl_lizok
      @idkthidwmfl_lizok Місяць тому +1

      ​@@octonine6212 oh god, now THAT is something I've never heard before haha, how is Knuckles Jesus??

    • @AnnStyle
      @AnnStyle Місяць тому +1

      @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704 I mean he did rise from the dead

    • @idkthidwmfl_lizok
      @idkthidwmfl_lizok Місяць тому

      @@AnnStyle oh!.. yeahhh I get it, I get it, haha

  • @ninuji69
    @ninuji69 Місяць тому +8

    10:15 that voicecrack was diabolical

    • @Racoon_Razzle
      @Racoon_Razzle Місяць тому +3

      "Doesn't tAEChnially stop him"🪑🪑🪑🪑

  • @speedking_gaming
    @speedking_gaming Місяць тому +2

    Man, shadow being a genie like the one from Aladdin and the Arabian Nights, it's not like there's a sonic Wii game where sonic gets sucked into that exact same book, teaming up with a genie and collecting 7 magic rings...wait?

  • @sikosonix901
    @sikosonix901 Місяць тому +10

    Love the video, but I do want to correct one fact. There is a reason Gerald put those inhibitor rings on him. It was to limit his powers, but it was also for his own sake. Like you said, Gerald needed Black Doom's DNA to do this, but with that came an immense amount of power. Shadow cannot control all of that doom and chaos energy inside him, that's why he has the inhibitor rings. If he takes them of, it's very exhausting to use chaos energy. In Sonic X we see that he tires out extremely fast when fighting without chaos energy. They're not there to limit him, but protect him.

  • @kindalllowder3595
    @kindalllowder3595 Місяць тому +1

    Ok, this is a really interesting theory, but you are forgetting something. The myth from the Babylonians from Sonic Riders came from a prehistoric era of sonic mythos. Shadow's story came only 50 years ago. Also, the genie that was shown in sonic riders was actually a robot made by the babylonians to scare off intruders.

  • @khythedestroyer
    @khythedestroyer Місяць тому +8

    We're just not going to mention the Sonic Arabian Nights game, Sonic and the Secret Rings?

  • @matthewtheking8989
    @matthewtheking8989 Місяць тому +21

    Bro shadow in the sonic 3 movie is gonna SLAP

  • @mickeyd343
    @mickeyd343 Місяць тому +1

    Sonic and the Seven Rings would have been a better game if Shadow was the Erazor Djinn.

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 Місяць тому +78

    Of course the Ultimate lifeform is a genie

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 Місяць тому +1

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.🎉🎉🎉

    • @wayverleesoulsong
      @wayverleesoulsong Місяць тому

      @@alphaa2010beg harder

  • @TheTrueKingJ
    @TheTrueKingJ Місяць тому +22

    Ok, so I assume we’re ignoring the existence of Sonic and the secret rings then, alright.

  • @ZsomTendo_Uzumaki
    @ZsomTendo_Uzumaki Місяць тому +1

    This is Tom's "Grgory's a robot" theory

  • @devinsauls9137
    @devinsauls9137 Місяць тому +12

    All this over one out of context like in Sonic Adventure 2? 😂 7:28

  • @sandjgaez257
    @sandjgaez257 Місяць тому +4

    Tom, please, you’ve just started. It’s too soon for your “Sans is Ness” arc!

  • @SirStarkiller
    @SirStarkiller Місяць тому +1

    Here I thought Tom would last a bit longer before he made a "Sana is Ness" type theory, but I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

  • @kuhluhOG
    @kuhluhOG Місяць тому +8

    6:22 The usage of Magi characters is appreciated.

  • @itsme2335
    @itsme2335 Місяць тому +7

    I would love a mod for Sonic and the Secret Rings that switch’s Sharah’s voice lines with Shadow