@@ghostface-AK47 Shadow will not be mad. And Tom just reminded Sonic about his personality how he handle difficulties. And Sonic will show Shadow, that it is posible to move on after loss and be good, like Maria would want him to be. And That Sonic understand what loss feels like, becouse he lost Longclaw. She was like mother to him.
I think Eggman is likely gonna betray Gerald, since his intentions are to rule humanity, not to destroy it, which is different from Gerald and shadow. Which is also where likely this quote comes in “if I can’t rule the world, I might as well save it”
I guess it comes down to who betrays the other first... I imagine Gerald and Shadow betray Eggman, but he had a backup plan because he was planning to betray them first
I said the same thing. Gerald will certainly betray Robotnik. And Robotnik will try to save Earth, possibly dying in the process. In this trailer, Robotnik states he wants to rule the world. Shadow confirms later on that there’ll be nothing left to rule. Yet in the _first_ trailer, we _distinctly_ hear Robotnik say “If I can’t rule the world, I may as well save it.” This clearly signposts that Robotnik will switch sides to save the planet. And if Jim Carey is truly going to retire after this, then him dying to save the world is a good way to write him out.
But at the same time... If they plan to continue making sequels after this... It would feel kind of weird without Eggman... I'm not necessarily saying Jim Carrey should continue playing the role of Eggman, rather, the sequels will need to be carefully scripted to suit the absence of Eggman
@@InnocentBurger-gm4td I could see Metal Sonic being made with Quills from not just Sonic, but also Knuckles and Shadow so that he's a much more powerful threat
@@barozukos7791 Yeah, but like, who is gonna build Metal Sonic if Eggman is gonna die? You have to consider these things... Sure, you could say Metal was built before Eggman dies (ASSUMING Eggman is gonna die in order to solidify how Jim Carrey isn't gonna play Eggman anymore hopefully), but then Metal would become a one-off that would probably never return, since there would be no one to rebuild it... You see where I'm going here? You can't only just consider the now, you must also consider how the now affects the later
I have a feeling that Tom is going to take Amy’s place which stinks, but when you watch the trailer, it just makes so much sense. The way he talks to Sonic throughout the movies. Would you rather have a character that just shows up out of nowhere to talk to Shadow or some character that’s been around for all three movies?? It just makes sense. I love Amy so much, but I have a feeling that’s where it’s going. Amy’s going to be in the post credits probably. Remember, Sofia Pernas is in the credits as well, but no one knows who she’s playing
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Sonic himself who talks Shadow down and reminds him of Maria's wish. Out of all the characters established in the films thus far, who else knows about the goodness in humanity better than Sonic?
@TheHallow31 That is more likely the logical sense given how Tom is like a father figure to Sonic but also some of the knowledge he had talking to Sonic from the 2nd movie he pass it down to Knuckles when he was working for Eggman.
My prediction is that Sonic and Shadow are fighting over the Chaos Emeralds, but they don't go super yet. Remember, the ARK's doomsday plan in SA2 only works once the Chaos Emeralds are in the cannon's core. And in the first Adventure game, it shows that Super Sonic can only be activated through positive feelings and determination (they hint as this in the second movie as well but don't confirm that this is still the case), meaning that if this carries over, Shadow wouldn't be able to go Super due to him being motivated by revenge. So what I think happens here is they fight in their base forms, Shadow wins and takes the emeralds to start the ARK's collision course with the earth, and the ending plays out similar to SA2 (maybe replacing the Biolizard with a Gerald robot or something for budget).
The Chaos Emeralds can't be activated through ONLY positive feelings; the whole point of that scene was that Chaos used his rage to become stronger, and that Sonic could fight that with positive emotions. There's no collision either. The Cannon came out of the river, it's nowhere big enough as the Ark to actually do the same amount of damage. And it shows Shadow being the one to power the cannon.
@@vriderch1360 the super forms themselves can only be activated through the positive energy of the emeralds (if Sonic tried with the negative energy, he would probably become dark Sonic or something similar). I would also just prefer if they save the super forms for after Shadow's alliance with Sonic, since I like the symbolism that Super Shadow has with it being used only when Shadow knows who he is and what he wants Edit: the collision course was dangerous because of the speed of the ARK and the reactivity of the cannon's core, so it could still happen. They could also replace it with firing the eclipse cannon at the earth, but idk how that would fit into a final battle
@@ZeroniaNMtrue, I forgot about super neo metal. Eggman also "transformed" with the master emerald, so idk if they'll keep the positive/negative energy thing
2:52 I can't remember if this is from the Official Trailer 2 or from a TV spot, but it shows Super Shadow and Super Sonic both flying up to the spaceship that Dr. Robotnik is in (I can't remember the name of it).
Would definitely prefer a movie over a TV show. Better to have a budget that can support the CGI star. So we can avoid a Commander Olive Garden show, guest staring Shadow.
There’s a hidden detail in my opinion in the lava scene at the end, in the video that scene was at 4:53 in the back behind the lava, we can see a yellow line, i think it’s either super sonic or super shadow flying in the back.
In the "casting a shadow" featurette there's actually a split second shot of two yellow objects flying towards the ark while it's being charged. So yes, you are right
0:13 kinda hard to ask them when it’s 10:30 pm and your supposed to be asleep because you got school tomorrow EDIT: 6:06 I personally thought that the lava area could be the ruins of the moon but my theory kinda falls apart since they’re would be low gravity
Hot topic is a very well established store that was famous for its “edgy” clothes, which were often black with red flames. It’d be great if it was a SC reference. But it’s likely not.
It seems I'm the only guy who's paying close attention. In the trailer, when all the villains are standing by each other, there's a gap between Eggman and Stone. And there's one important character introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 that we aren't seeing in the film thus far. I seriously think Paramount is hiding the presence of Rouge the Bat.
@markdpane I'm pretty sure they've written her off, I mean, she is one of the main characters of SA2 but it can still work without her (especially when team Sonic are actually working with G.U.N here so there's no real need for a double agent), and honestly, I can't see how they will translate this relatively provocative character into this style of CGI properly 🤣.
You can also see super sonic or super shadow streak by right after sonic says "This ends now" during the lava erupting. You gotta go in 0.25x speed to see it.
I think Shadow will be reminded of Maria's wishes but only after his fight with Sonic. As long as we get a fight between two super forms? Bro I couldn't be more hype for that
I have a theory that hinges on this: (1) The Chaos Emeralds turn thoughts to power, (2) Shadow struggles to remember Maria's promise through the PTSD, and (3) Chaos Control exists in this movie. Sonic could pull off Chaos Control then use the Emeralds' power to help Shadow remember what Maria's promise was
I didn't see the reflection of the emeralds in Sonic's eyes until they were pointed out! That's so interesting! The part when Tails is confused with Detective Pikachu is so cute and funny!!! Sonic and Pokémon are my favorite franchises. I never thought to draw parallels between Tails and Pikachu though. However, I did try really hard to find similarities between Shadow and my most favorite Pokémon, Mew and... well.... the only conclusion I came to was that both of them are half rodents. With that said, I watched a video which talked about the similarities of Shadow and Mewtwo such as their troubled pasts and lust for revenge. It's very interesting how these Japanese animators conceptualize ideas for these franchises. Talking about the ending of this movie, I really hope it's different than the one in SA2. I've seen it way too many times through the years and I cry every time. We already know Maria dies in this movie which is heartbreaking at its core. I don't want to see my favorite Sonic character die, too. This is totally wishful thinking but I can always hope
Knowing Shadow he won't immediately turn good as was Knuckles in the last movie but would try to aid Sonic in order from stopping Ark from destroying the earth. As for with Gerald and Robotnik well at least for Gerald he would still go through wanting to destroy the earth for he still grieving over his granddaughter and wanting revenge on the people who took her away from her.
Something arguably much more important that you missed is that in the lava environment in the trailer at one point you can literally see a golden streak flash across the left hand side of the sky - you can even see it in this video at 7:13
If I recall correctly they said it was the last movie with eggman. That could mean he potentially sacrifices himself somehow to help sonic save the world.
I’m hoping it’s not shadow who is the main villain, because he is one of my favourite characters and he has always been an anti hero (kind of like the Deadpool & Wolverine “worst wolverine”) of the sonic franchise and I don’t want him to be completely bad. I’m hoping Gerald creates something worse than shadow but it is revealed in the middle of sonic and shadows fight, being teased through the movie, then egg man and shadow joining team sonic to defeat Gerald
Based on the leaked transcript, we are indeed getting Super Sonic versus Super Shadow. So things the leak has gotten right so far: - Space Colony ARK - Gerald Robotnik and Robotnik (Eggman) both in the movie together - Super Sonic and Super Shadow both in the movie (this is pretty obvious, so I'm just including it as a formality) Things the leak shows that we haven't seen yet: - Some kind of confrontation between Gerald and Eggman - Super Sonic fighting Super Shadow - Super Shadow removing his Limiter Rings and pushing ARK away from Earth - Weird things happening with the clocks while Super Shadow is pushing ARK This leak was posted at the same time as the Knuckles miniseries leak, and every single thing in that leak (the miniseries leak) was 100 percent accurate.
I don't think it is space colony Ark. It is too small to be colony. I think it's just Eclipse cannon. Dont even dare to say that Shadow never turns good. He will definitely turns good. For the sake of Maria. It is whole point of this character. Sonic himself will replace Amy's role in redemption of Shadow. It already hint by Tom's dialog with Sonic.
@@KOTEBANAROT Change size? You didn't understood my point. We all saw that it is less than width of Thames in diameter. And for colony station it is too small, colonies usually in a size of city. That is why I think, that it is just Eclipse cannon.
I would’ve expected the movie to be like egg man trying to steal the master emerald back like why isn’t it in the trailer at all like egg man like really wanted that emerald
It would suck if shadow never turned good by the end, that flip is the core of his character. It would be a genuine flaw that would hurt my enjoyment, one of the only things that could at this point I think.
Sonic will literally be the most RAW we’ve gotten him in a long time, you can tell he’s gonna be the most serious he’s ever been in this movie (besides dark sonic but we ain’t talking abt him)
If you take a look at the scene when Shadow says “this ends now” if you look at the bottom left corner, you can see Sonic’s hand next to him, I wonder what Easter egg that is? Do they team up then at that moment or after they’re super? Who knows
There was a new tv spot where we get one more scene with the lava fight, shadow and sonic jump, sonic on the left in the air and shadow on the right in the air reaching for the chaos emeralds in the middle.
What if they fight in super forms, because shadow is being controlled by Gerald? Almost similar to the Goku v Majin Vegeta fight?! shawdow breaks free from the control and they have to team up together to stop the eclipse cannon and he falls to earth circa SA2 ending? Solid prediction i say 🤷🏽♂️😅
I have a theory about how this could go down between the eggs, what you said makes sense, so when egg 1 learns about egg 2’s intentions of destroying humanity, he rebels and eventually either gets kicked of the ship or makes it to an escape pod. Or it could be the other way around where egg 1 helps hedgehog 1 at first but then learns egg 2 is alive and thinks that destroying humanity would be a good idea and ditches hedgehog 1 to help egg 2 and hedgehog 2
As other commentators say, perhaps Gerald and Shadow will betray Eggman, and he and Sonic will defeat these two. And Eggman will probably die, and this is a great decision since Jim Carrey wanted to retire. (Gerald will also be taken out of the film. He will probably die too, since Jim Carrey is retiring). And Shadow will either be left in the franchise or he will also be taken out of the film. And if this turns out to be true, who will be the main villain of the subsequent films? If you've heard the rumor about Paramount's plans for Silver, you probably know that his arc is directly related to Mephiles. And perhaps Mephiles will be the main villain. If this is true then the rumor with Amy and Metal Sonic will be fake. If Eggman dies without him no one will create Metal Sonic. If that's the case, I don't know how they'll add Amy to the franchise. *Sorry if my English is bad
5:29 you can also see that in his eye reflection that there isn't a lot of lava compered to what we saw I Think we will get the fake shrine that in SA2 was used to harness the power of the emeralds
My prediction is that after Ivo Robotnik learns that Gerald wants to destroy the world instead of ruling he will also discover in a plot twist that Gerald is actually a robot he programmed before he died in prison.
I hope we get that Live and Learn moment where Sonic and Shadow team up. I also really hope Shadow doesn't stay a villain. If he does in this movie then people would be confused as to why he is a hero, moreso an antihero, in Sonic x Shadow Generations
I'm calling it now, this movie ends either on a cliffhanger, or shadow still stays evil by the end of the movie (he doesn't get redeemed) and he teams up with eggman's assistant (forgot his name) to build metal sonic to rival sonic. (Hinted from the poster where shadow holds Sonic's three quils). Then we get to the end credits and see Amy. That's my prediction anyway. 🤔
Honestly my take is similar, but different. Stone looking dejected I think is the key. I think it's going to be that Agent Stone is the first one to question Gerald's intentions. However, Eggman will deny this, wanting to reunite with his family. In which case Agent Stone will be rejected. Eggman will choose his grandfather over him. And Stone will think it's over, trying to move on from Eggman. However it's probably the scene we see Sonic Hub show here. Where Robotnik will realize, he made a terrible mistake. And will end up helping Sonic and Shadow similar to the game. Think the Super Sonic V.S. Super Shadow scene is very likely. They've advertised the stakes in this movie will be higher in an interview with the producer. And pitting the two supers against each other, would be a great way to do that. But we'll have to wait and see.
I think the Arc under the control of Gerald will be the “final boss” and Shadow has a last minute change of heart and the two of them destroy the arc in their super forms.
HERE ME OUT! The lava place where Sonic vs Shadow, that could be crises city, and that’s how silver is in the story 🗣️🔥. But Sonichubs theory makes more sense.
I really think the Eclipse Canon will be the Final thing they have to take down. shadow will power it up, it will lose control and they can't stop it unless they team up.
Imagine metal sonic is the true big bad or the 4th movie. And i think the new charecters in the 4th movie will be - Amy rose - Metal sonic Wait this reminds me of Sonic cd-
If amy isn't in the movie to tell shadow to be uh nice and stuff then I think it's gonna be a flash back of Maria before she died telling him to be friends with people on earth or it will be home or one of the 3 characters like sonic tails or knuckles
keep doing these I love love LOVE Breakdown Analysis Videos so much ^^ seems like in the movies they are taking an more realistic approach make sense to where Shadow is hell bent of the destruction of humanity but then has an change of heart over 5 minutes from an stranger He doesn't even know nah that doesn't work He might in fact be a villain for an while and maybe the person who changes him is Rouge maybe she will appear in Edgie's Spin off TV Show down the road. And as for the Emeralds We might finally get that Fight we saw in Sonic X of Sonic and Shadow fight from the Lava arena to Outer Space.
Just because Biolizard isn’t hinted at doesn’t mean he’s not going to be in the movie, the offspring from Alien Romulus wasn’t hinted at all until the movie hit theaters
i think that eggman wanted to rule humanity and gerald destroy so then eggman says : with his power, he can rule humanity shadow : where it's done, there's anything left to rule but gerald says : we are not doing that, eggman & shadow : what ? gerald : we are gonna do this * cut the moon in half * eggman : but. shadow : fine for me. eggman : but i don't wanna kill people! :( gerald : lasers the earth sonic in earth but destroyed like in the final trailer : THIS ENDS HERE SHADOW : you're right, this, ends, here! then sonic, shadow, & eggman team up, eggman get's out of the ark and acording to leaks shadow makes gerald time travel ? idk but it's a leaked story board, so now continuing, sonic & shadow goes super, sonic saves eggman, and shadow starts pushing the ark away to try to time travel it so the damage that he made on earth ( litarry killing every human ) is reversed ps : sonic was in the ark or used a ring to survive the laser, but tails & knuckles idk..
sonic goes super. shadow removes his power limiters and kicks his @$$ anyway. something requires them to teamup and save the day, like the black arms aliens or something like that would show up after blowing up the moon. they both go Super and shadow makes a sacrifice and disappears until Sonic movie 4.
I hope no one convinces shadow to turn good. That way its different from SA2 and it doesnt take away Amy's role. I'd personally love to see him turn good some other way / maybe even in a follow up show / film
I bet shadow and sonic fight via lava scene ,then after Shadow remembers Maria's wishes they team up and go super to take down the space colony arc.... BOOM . Shadow falls to earth they find his limiter rings then post credits dr eggman has him.
But how is he still alive? In the games, he’s an old man when the events of the ARK raid happen. Maybe in the movie version, he was in his 30s when it happened, but how can he be a grandfather at that age? I have questions
I think that there's more of a chance of Both Robotnik's dying than Shadow. After all, their Actor is retiring. ... I mean, It is hard to imagine a future Sonic thing without Robotnik in it, but I don't think it's as impossible as others think it is. Paramount sonic team has plently of sonic villains to choose from. I feel like Dr. Stone and Metal Sonic would be the next - more natural way to go. Heck, They could even Keep Shadow as the villain until he meets Amy in the next movie... idk, it's just... how long can you keep a guy from retirement until it becomes unethical? Plus, with how much Shadow's Popularity has sky-rocketed this year -- Killing the dark hedgy off at this point, would be a Very Strange decision. After all, the only reason He died the first time, was because the creative Saga Team thought they weren't gonna do anything with him beyond that point. History has shown -- that that not be the case, ever. Killing Shadow in the movie - even if its a fake-out - I think will only hurt the story telling moving forward.
You can tell Jeff Fowler really liked working on Shadow the Hedgehog '05.
He's a fan of shadow.
@@mayracordero382 Yeah I would be too if I worked on his game.
I feel like Tom's line about making the right choice when it matters most can also be directed at Shadow.
@@darkcobra1418 clearly he read the lyrics to open your heart
Amy and Chris aren't here, so someone has to take over the role of talking Shadow down.
and then after that shadow might go mad stating that, tom doesnt get it or smt and then unleash at him or even kill tom
Like this coment so the bot doesn't win
@@ghostface-AK47 Shadow will not be mad. And Tom just reminded Sonic about his personality how he handle difficulties. And Sonic will show Shadow, that it is posible to move on after loss and be good, like Maria would want him to be. And That Sonic understand what loss feels like, becouse he lost Longclaw. She was like mother to him.
I think Eggman is likely gonna betray Gerald, since his intentions are to rule humanity, not to destroy it, which is different from Gerald and shadow.
Which is also where likely this quote comes in “if I can’t rule the world, I might as well save it”
Have a similar theory myself. Eggman could end up saving the world
I guess it comes down to who betrays the other first... I imagine Gerald and Shadow betray Eggman, but he had a backup plan because he was planning to betray them first
@ could also be
Not convinced. Robotnik would destroy the Earth in pursuit of cosmological conquest. He needs a more ego driven reason.
All I can say, there will be a lot of betrayal in this movie 😄
It just makes me wonder "how did they get away with that NINTENDO reference in a SEGA movie?"
@@spencerklein5520 SEGA and Nintendo are on good terms with each other but it's still pretty cool
I think Nintendo owns sega rn…idk I might be wrong
Didn’t paramount also make the pikachu movie? Maybe they have those rights since they specifically said detective pikachu
Sega and nintendo are a good team.
@spencerklein5520
SEGA and Nintendo are on good terms nowadays. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had the Mario and Sonic Olympic games.
I said the same thing.
Gerald will certainly betray Robotnik. And Robotnik will try to save Earth, possibly dying in the process.
In this trailer, Robotnik states he wants to rule the world. Shadow confirms later on that there’ll be nothing left to rule. Yet in the _first_ trailer, we _distinctly_ hear Robotnik say “If I can’t rule the world, I may as well save it.” This clearly signposts that Robotnik will switch sides to save the planet.
And if Jim Carey is truly going to retire after this, then him dying to save the world is a good way to write him out.
This is the best theory I have ever heard.
But at the same time... If they plan to continue making sequels after this... It would feel kind of weird without Eggman... I'm not necessarily saying Jim Carrey should continue playing the role of Eggman, rather, the sequels will need to be carefully scripted to suit the absence of Eggman
@@InnocentBurger-gm4td I could see Metal Sonic being made with Quills from not just Sonic, but also Knuckles and Shadow so that he's a much more powerful threat
@@barozukos7791 Yeah, but like, who is gonna build Metal Sonic if Eggman is gonna die? You have to consider these things... Sure, you could say Metal was built before Eggman dies (ASSUMING Eggman is gonna die in order to solidify how Jim Carrey isn't gonna play Eggman anymore hopefully), but then Metal would become a one-off that would probably never return, since there would be no one to rebuild it... You see where I'm going here? You can't only just consider the now, you must also consider how the now affects the later
@@InnocentBurger-gm4td Agent Stone will take over. This movie gives them a chance to better develop his character as a suitable replacement.
I have a feeling that Tom is going to take Amy’s place which stinks, but when you watch the trailer, it just makes so much sense. The way he talks to Sonic throughout the movies. Would you rather have a character that just shows up out of nowhere to talk to Shadow or some character that’s been around for all three movies?? It just makes sense. I love Amy so much, but I have a feeling that’s where it’s going. Amy’s going to be in the post credits probably. Remember, Sofia Pernas is in the credits as well, but no one knows who she’s playing
The better option is Tom doesn't convince shadow and Amy does in a future film
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Sonic himself who talks Shadow down and reminds him of Maria's wish.
Out of all the characters established in the films thus far, who else knows about the goodness in humanity better than Sonic?
@TheHallow31 That is more likely the logical sense given how Tom is like a father figure to Sonic but also some of the knowledge he had talking to Sonic from the 2nd movie he pass it down to Knuckles when he was working for Eggman.
No romantic tension then😢
remember. Chris took amy role in sonic x version. so its possible
tails looks like pikachu confirmed?!🗣️🗣️🔥
My prediction is that Sonic and Shadow are fighting over the Chaos Emeralds, but they don't go super yet. Remember, the ARK's doomsday plan in SA2 only works once the Chaos Emeralds are in the cannon's core. And in the first Adventure game, it shows that Super Sonic can only be activated through positive feelings and determination (they hint as this in the second movie as well but don't confirm that this is still the case), meaning that if this carries over, Shadow wouldn't be able to go Super due to him being motivated by revenge.
So what I think happens here is they fight in their base forms, Shadow wins and takes the emeralds to start the ARK's collision course with the earth, and the ending plays out similar to SA2 (maybe replacing the Biolizard with a Gerald robot or something for budget).
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The Chaos Emeralds can't be activated through ONLY positive feelings; the whole point of that scene was that Chaos used his rage to become stronger, and that Sonic could fight that with positive emotions.
There's no collision either. The Cannon came out of the river, it's nowhere big enough as the Ark to actually do the same amount of damage. And it shows Shadow being the one to power the cannon.
Metal transformed with the emeralds and shadow has transformed with the emeralds in sonic x while being a protagonist
@@vriderch1360 the super forms themselves can only be activated through the positive energy of the emeralds (if Sonic tried with the negative energy, he would probably become dark Sonic or something similar). I would also just prefer if they save the super forms for after Shadow's alliance with Sonic, since I like the symbolism that Super Shadow has with it being used only when Shadow knows who he is and what he wants
Edit: the collision course was dangerous because of the speed of the ARK and the reactivity of the cannon's core, so it could still happen. They could also replace it with firing the eclipse cannon at the earth, but idk how that would fit into a final battle
@@ZeroniaNMtrue, I forgot about super neo metal. Eggman also "transformed" with the master emerald, so idk if they'll keep the positive/negative energy thing
2:52 I can't remember if this is from the Official Trailer 2 or from a TV spot, but it shows Super Shadow and Super Sonic both flying up to the spaceship that Dr. Robotnik is in (I can't remember the name of it).
I can almost guarantee that, if Shadow survives the movie, he's gonna get his own spin-off show like Knuckles
I guarantee you they’re not killing him off he’s too hype
@@Blockaleno67definitely not. They wouldn't hire Keanu for just one role
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Paramount did say that if this movie does well, they will make Shadow's spin-off film be a movie instead of a TV series.
Would definitely prefer a movie over a TV show. Better to have a budget that can support the CGI star. So we can avoid a Commander Olive Garden show, guest staring Shadow.
There’s a hidden detail in my opinion in the lava scene at the end, in the video that scene was at 4:53 in the back behind the lava, we can see a yellow line, i think it’s either super sonic or super shadow flying in the back.
Wait IT DOES that’s a good eye right there
In the "casting a shadow" featurette there's actually a split second shot of two yellow objects flying towards the ark while it's being charged. So yes, you are right
0:13 kinda hard to ask them when it’s 10:30 pm and your supposed to be asleep because you got school tomorrow
EDIT: 6:06 I personally thought that the lava area could be the ruins of the moon but my theory kinda falls apart since they’re would be low gravity
Knuckles: “He does look like a Pokémon! Pika Pika!”
The only thing to make jimmy carreys outfit perfect is to give him the round blue sunglasses then he truly is the eggman
Aw, Biolizard would have looked really cool in CGI
Knuckles knowing about Pokemon is something that I never thought would happen, but I’m not complaining!
Also the hype train just keeps going!
Did anyone notice that in the trailer sonic called shadow Hot Topic referencing snap cube sonic adventure, two fan dub?
Hot topic is a very well established store that was famous for its “edgy” clothes, which were often black with red flames.
It’d be great if it was a SC reference. But it’s likely not.
@ yea that true the joke shadow made was that he wanted to know where the nearest hot topic was
wait WHEN
WHEN DID HE DO THAT
HELP
I hope the third movie takes itself seriously while still having good jokes, have better action sequences and some emotional beats to it.
It seems I'm the only guy who's paying close attention. In the trailer, when all the villains are standing by each other, there's a gap between Eggman and Stone. And there's one important character introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 that we aren't seeing in the film thus far. I seriously think Paramount is hiding the presence of Rouge the Bat.
@markdpane I'm pretty sure they've written her off, I mean, she is one of the main characters of SA2 but it can still work without her (especially when team Sonic are actually working with G.U.N here so there's no real need for a double agent), and honestly, I can't see how they will translate this relatively provocative character into this style of CGI properly 🤣.
It truly isnt team bad without rouge, huh?
You can also see super sonic or super shadow streak by right after sonic says "This ends now" during the lava erupting. You gotta go in 0.25x speed to see it.
I mean they literally have screwed over Amy and rouge i have no hope for them
It’s interesting that they haven’t shown Krysten Ritter yet- even though the rumor she was playing Rouge “wasn’t true” maybe that was a misdirect?
I think Shadow will be reminded of Maria's wishes but only after his fight with Sonic. As long as we get a fight between two super forms? Bro I couldn't be more hype for that
It would be nuts if they gave us that
I'm more interested in whether the movies are gonna make Hyper forms canon, I mean, it is a possibility
@@InnocentBurger-gm4tdit's doubtful but it's a good thought
@@InnocentBurger-gm4td I highly doubt it.
I have a theory that hinges on this: (1) The Chaos Emeralds turn thoughts to power, (2) Shadow struggles to remember Maria's promise through the PTSD, and (3) Chaos Control exists in this movie. Sonic could pull off Chaos Control then use the Emeralds' power to help Shadow remember what Maria's promise was
Planting the seeds for a Smash Bros movie with that Pokemon reference
I didn't see the reflection of the emeralds in Sonic's eyes until they were pointed out! That's so interesting!
The part when Tails is confused with Detective Pikachu is so cute and funny!!! Sonic and Pokémon are my favorite franchises. I never thought to draw parallels between Tails and Pikachu though. However, I did try really hard to find similarities between Shadow and my most favorite Pokémon, Mew and... well.... the only conclusion I came to was that both of them are half rodents. With that said, I watched a video which talked about the similarities of Shadow and Mewtwo such as their troubled pasts and lust for revenge. It's very interesting how these Japanese animators conceptualize ideas for these franchises.
Talking about the ending of this movie, I really hope it's different than the one in SA2. I've seen it way too many times through the years and I cry every time. We already know Maria dies in this movie which is heartbreaking at its core. I don't want to see my favorite Sonic character die, too. This is totally wishful thinking but I can always hope
I pointed out the emeralds
The one thing I wonder is how they are going to make the Biolizard look in Sonic 3. Sonic movie 3 is going to be a PEAK movie!
No one says biolizard is in the movie
@ it could be
@@pepe-kf7hiAnd who said biolizard *isn't* in the movie, hmmm??
@@knowingjordankid most likely isn’t though
@@xenoemblem7 Chill
We will see😅
Shadow the bad boy but tuned good when he gets adopted shadow the good boy
Most likely at the end of the movie Shadow will turn good and team up with Sonic to stop Gerald and and Doctor eggman
Knowing Shadow he won't immediately turn good as was Knuckles in the last movie but would try to aid Sonic in order from stopping Ark from destroying the earth. As for with Gerald and Robotnik well at least for Gerald he would still go through wanting to destroy the earth for he still grieving over his granddaughter and wanting revenge on the people who took her away from her.
I feel like the thing that will set Shadow on the path of good would be one line...
"Would she really want this??"
Something arguably much more important that you missed is that in the lava environment in the trailer at one point you can literally see a golden streak flash across the left hand side of the sky - you can even see it in this video at 7:13
Yup forgot to mention that was in a rush to get this out today
Am I the only one who thinks this movie could have a cliffhanger ending?
I hope not! I would actually die.💀
I bet that metal is going to appear at the very very end of the movie after everything happens
If I recall correctly they said it was the last movie with eggman. That could mean he potentially sacrifices himself somehow to help sonic save the world.
That girl wasn't even looking at tails.
The trailer was great. You can tell they’re really trying to make this movie successful. I’m sure it will turn out great.
Shadow still fighting Sonic at the end of the movie won’t work, he needs redemption.
I think Maggie is going to be placement for Amy
Amy still could appear but we will have to wait & see
@@Jacob-oo2qv yeah seeing the trailers I don't think we really need amy or rouge with this one
My mom just bought the tickets!!!!!YES I THOUGHT 2 STEP AHEAD
I’m hoping it’s not shadow who is the main villain, because he is one of my favourite characters and he has always been an anti hero (kind of like the Deadpool & Wolverine “worst wolverine”) of the sonic franchise and I don’t want him to be completely bad. I’m hoping Gerald creates something worse than shadow but it is revealed in the middle of sonic and shadows fight, being teased through the movie, then egg man and shadow joining team sonic to defeat Gerald
Based on the leaked transcript, we are indeed getting Super Sonic versus Super Shadow.
So things the leak has gotten right so far:
- Space Colony ARK
- Gerald Robotnik and Robotnik (Eggman) both in the movie together
- Super Sonic and Super Shadow both in the movie (this is pretty obvious, so I'm just including it as a formality)
Things the leak shows that we haven't seen yet:
- Some kind of confrontation between Gerald and Eggman
- Super Sonic fighting Super Shadow
- Super Shadow removing his Limiter Rings and pushing ARK away from Earth
- Weird things happening with the clocks while Super Shadow is pushing ARK
This leak was posted at the same time as the Knuckles miniseries leak, and every single thing in that leak (the miniseries leak) was 100 percent accurate.
There better be a satisfying conclusion with Sonic's quills.
I don't think it is space colony Ark. It is too small to be colony. I think it's just Eclipse cannon.
Dont even dare to say that Shadow never turns good. He will definitely turns good. For the sake of Maria. It is whole point of this character. Sonic himself will replace Amy's role in redemption of Shadow. It already hint by Tom's dialog with Sonic.
They can change the size of the ARK you know
@@KOTEBANAROT Change size? You didn't understood my point. We all saw that it is less than width of Thames in diameter. And for colony station it is too small, colonies usually in a size of city. That is why I think, that it is just Eclipse cannon.
I would’ve expected the movie to be like egg man trying to steal the master emerald back like why isn’t it in the trailer at all like egg man like really wanted that emerald
Sad there's no Amy silver is not gonna be in the post credit scene amy is
Doubt.
They will make more movies they can't just add every single character in one movie
@@arc7375 wrong she's going to be in the post credit scene however
SILVER WILL BE IN THE SECOND ONE
It would suck if shadow never turned good by the end, that flip is the core of his character. It would be a genuine flaw that would hurt my enjoyment, one of the only things that could at this point I think.
Sonic will literally be the most RAW we’ve gotten him in a long time, you can tell he’s gonna be the most serious he’s ever been in this movie (besides dark sonic but we ain’t talking abt him)
If you take a look at the scene when Shadow says “this ends now” if you look at the bottom left corner, you can see Sonic’s hand next to him, I wonder what Easter egg that is? Do they team up then at that moment or after they’re super? Who knows
0:00 bro I swear the first thing that came to my mind after watching the second trailer was your video 😭
I literally went like "can they say that? Are they allowed to say that" after the Pikachu joke
There was a new tv spot where we get one more scene with the lava fight, shadow and sonic jump, sonic on the left in the air and shadow on the right in the air reaching for the chaos emeralds in the middle.
What if they fight in super forms, because shadow is being controlled by Gerald? Almost similar to the Goku v Majin Vegeta fight?!
shawdow breaks free from the control and they have to team up together to stop the eclipse cannon and he falls to earth circa SA2 ending? Solid prediction i say 🤷🏽♂️😅
I have a theory about how this could go down between the eggs, what you said makes sense, so when egg 1 learns about egg 2’s intentions of destroying humanity, he rebels and eventually either gets kicked of the ship or makes it to an escape pod. Or it could be the other way around where egg 1 helps hedgehog 1 at first but then learns egg 2 is alive and thinks that destroying humanity would be a good idea and ditches hedgehog 1 to help egg 2 and hedgehog 2
As other commentators say, perhaps Gerald and Shadow will betray Eggman, and he and Sonic will defeat these two. And Eggman will probably die, and this is a great decision since Jim Carrey wanted to retire. (Gerald will also be taken out of the film. He will probably die too, since Jim Carrey is retiring). And Shadow will either be left in the franchise or he will also be taken out of the film. And if this turns out to be true, who will be the main villain of the subsequent films?
If you've heard the rumor about Paramount's plans for Silver, you probably know that his arc is directly related to Mephiles. And perhaps Mephiles will be the main villain. If this is true then the rumor with Amy and Metal Sonic will be fake. If Eggman dies without him no one will create Metal Sonic. If that's the case, I don't know how they'll add Amy to the franchise.
*Sorry if my English is bad
5:29
you can also see that in his eye reflection that there isn't a lot of lava compered to what we saw
I Think we will get the fake shrine that in SA2 was used to harness the power of the emeralds
Pika Pika!😂
My prediction is that after Ivo Robotnik learns that Gerald wants to destroy the world instead of ruling he will also discover in a plot twist that Gerald is actually a robot he programmed before he died in prison.
I hope we get that Live and Learn moment where Sonic and Shadow team up. I also really hope Shadow doesn't stay a villain. If he does in this movie then people would be confused as to why he is a hero, moreso an antihero, in Sonic x Shadow Generations
They even did the eggman: "PISSING ON THE MOON!"
I'm calling it now, this movie ends either on a cliffhanger, or shadow still stays evil by the end of the movie (he doesn't get redeemed) and he teams up with eggman's assistant (forgot his name) to build metal sonic to rival sonic. (Hinted from the poster where shadow holds Sonic's three quils). Then we get to the end credits and see Amy. That's my prediction anyway. 🤔
I loved the trailer and it didn't show that much there is still a lot of questions unanswered
another easter egg in the trailer is that in the end of the trailer when shadow says it ends now you can see sonic arm holding shadow
U can hear his world sample in the background music when the ark comes out the water
this movie is gonna be peak
I'm ready to see sonic movie 3 and I hope they won't too much of the film.
1:28 PISSING THE MOON
When Shadow and Sonic hopefully fight over the emeralds, we could get an orchestral remix of either For True Story, or Shut Up Faker
Shadow isn’t gonna get a spin off show he’s gonna get a spin off movie 🎉
You were right, chaos emeralds do come in the movie instead sonic and shadow fight for it. 🎉🎉🎉
tails be like:😒
2:38 that definitely looks like there was a climax
Sonic and Pokémon at the Olympic Games
The grassy field with Shadow and Maria goes as far back as Sonic X, except it was bright and sunny that time.
Jojo(toms daughter)will replace amy
Imagine
Jojo is Tom’s niece tho???
@sunnyezemba7021 sorry,I meant neas
@sunnyezemba7021 no neace
No we need amy
I think there is actually a chance they give Shadow a heroic death the way they wanted to do originally.
Honestly my take is similar, but different. Stone looking dejected I think is the key. I think it's going to be that Agent Stone is the first one to question Gerald's intentions.
However, Eggman will deny this, wanting to reunite with his family. In which case Agent Stone will be rejected. Eggman will choose his grandfather over him. And Stone will think it's over, trying to move on from Eggman.
However it's probably the scene we see Sonic Hub show here. Where Robotnik will realize, he made a terrible mistake. And will end up helping Sonic and Shadow similar to the game.
Think the Super Sonic V.S. Super Shadow scene is very likely. They've advertised the stakes in this movie will be higher in an interview with the producer. And pitting the two supers against each other, would be a great way to do that.
But we'll have to wait and see.
I think the Arc under the control of Gerald will be the “final boss” and Shadow has a last minute change of heart and the two of them destroy the arc in their super forms.
HERE ME OUT! The lava place where Sonic vs Shadow, that could be crises city, and that’s how silver is in the story 🗣️🔥. But Sonichubs theory makes more sense.
Possibly maria said to shadow to protect humans so shadow could team up and defeat gerald.
I really think the Eclipse Canon will be the Final thing they have to take down. shadow will power it up, it will lose control and they can't stop it unless they team up.
Imagine metal sonic is the true big bad or the 4th movie.
And i think the new charecters in the 4th movie will be
- Amy rose
- Metal sonic
Wait this reminds me of Sonic cd-
If amy isn't in the movie to tell shadow to be uh nice and stuff then I think it's gonna be a flash back of Maria before she died telling him to be friends with people on earth or it will be home or one of the 3 characters like sonic tails or knuckles
keep doing these I love love LOVE Breakdown Analysis Videos so much ^^ seems like in the movies they are taking an more realistic approach make sense to where Shadow is hell bent of the destruction of humanity but then has an change of heart over 5 minutes from an stranger He doesn't even know nah that doesn't work He might in fact be a villain for an while and maybe the person who changes him is Rouge maybe she will appear in Edgie's Spin off TV Show down the road. And as for the Emeralds We might finally get that Fight we saw in Sonic X of Sonic and Shadow fight from the Lava arena to Outer Space.
Just because Biolizard isn’t hinted at doesn’t mean he’s not going to be in the movie, the offspring from Alien Romulus wasn’t hinted at all until the movie hit theaters
There’s a sonic 3 ad with new footage btw
i think that eggman wanted to rule humanity and gerald destroy so then eggman says : with his power, he can rule humanity shadow : where it's done, there's anything left to rule
but gerald says : we are not doing that, eggman & shadow : what ? gerald : we are gonna do this * cut the moon in half * eggman : but.
shadow : fine for me.
eggman : but i don't wanna kill people! :(
gerald : lasers the earth
sonic in earth but destroyed like in the final trailer : THIS ENDS HERE
SHADOW : you're right, this, ends, here!
then sonic, shadow, & eggman team up, eggman get's out of the ark and acording to leaks shadow makes gerald time travel ? idk but it's a leaked story board, so now continuing, sonic & shadow goes super, sonic saves eggman, and shadow starts pushing the ark away to try to time travel it so the damage that he made on earth ( litarry killing every human ) is reversed
ps : sonic was in the ark or used a ring to survive the laser, but tails & knuckles idk..
sonic goes super.
shadow removes his power limiters and kicks his @$$ anyway.
something requires them to teamup and save the day, like the black arms aliens or something like that would show up after blowing up the moon.
they both go Super and shadow makes a sacrifice and disappears until Sonic movie 4.
All am sayin is, Sonic ain't joking in final battle with shads
I hope no one convinces shadow to turn good. That way its different from SA2 and it doesnt take away Amy's role. I'd personally love to see him turn good some other way / maybe even in a follow up show / film
Were gonna see super sonic vs super shadow
Imagine Santa is the bad guy😂😂😂
I asked bout the tails thing, my parents shook their head in disappointment 🥲
I bet shadow and sonic fight via lava scene ,then after Shadow remembers Maria's wishes they team up and go super to take down the space colony arc.... BOOM . Shadow falls to earth they find his limiter rings then post credits dr eggman has him.
If Shadow is gonna be good in the End of the Movie, and Tom adopted him, then Sonic and Shadow could be going realy Brothers
My theory is that the scene in the trailer where they're on the moon, they are already in their super forms fighting.
I thought Gerald was a disguised Black Doom.
No it seems like he wasnt executed but is in prison
But how is he still alive? In the games, he’s an old man when the events of the ARK raid happen. Maybe in the movie version, he was in his 30s when it happened, but how can he be a grandfather at that age? I have questions
@@Reyna_Amaturi Same...
@@Reyna_AmaturiProbably not the case, but it’s not impossible for someone to be a grandfather that young
@@Reyna_Amaturionly time will tell. Maybe he was awoken like shadow? Maybe time travel? Excited to find out
I'm gonna have to stay away from UA-cam from spoilers 'cause my country is releasing this film in JANUARY 😭
Hold on…
IS THAT THE HIS WORLD?!!
How do they even know pokemon💀, especially knuckles depending on his life situation
Awesome Sonic video!
Can i still cope that Metal Sonic will be the secret final battle (or hopefully teased in the end)
The trailer is peak
i hope they do put the biolizard is in there
I think that there's more of a chance of Both Robotnik's dying than Shadow. After all, their Actor is retiring. ... I mean, It is hard to imagine a future Sonic thing without Robotnik in it, but I don't think it's as impossible as others think it is. Paramount sonic team has plently of sonic villains to choose from. I feel like Dr. Stone and Metal Sonic would be the next - more natural way to go. Heck, They could even Keep Shadow as the villain until he meets Amy in the next movie... idk, it's just... how long can you keep a guy from retirement until it becomes unethical?
Plus, with how much Shadow's Popularity has sky-rocketed this year -- Killing the dark hedgy off at this point, would be a Very Strange decision. After all, the only reason He died the first time, was because the creative Saga Team thought they weren't gonna do anything with him beyond that point. History has shown -- that that not be the case, ever. Killing Shadow in the movie - even if its a fake-out - I think will only hurt the story telling moving forward.
Imagine a Sonic colors movie that has Zavok as the main bad taking over the amusement park.