In this video we compare the Chanterelle (Cantharellus cibarius ) with the False Chanterelle (Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca) and note the differences between the two.
One thing to keep in mind, chanterelles always grow near trees they form a symbiotic relationship with, they are mycorrihizal. Oak, maple, poplar, birch - hardwoods. Part of the reason you want to get your chanterelles with the stems and not cut them off too high to the crown is to see how the gills grow from the stem upward. Chanterelles gills are fused to the stem and it's as if they are part of the stem where false chanterelles often times have a define line where stem is smooth then gills grow from right under the grown upward. I find chanterelles one of the easiest to figure out with the gills. If you can move the gills back and forth with a knife or finger, they seem flimsy and delicate or easily fall part, if you can see a clear separation from stem to gills, and the color is slightly orange (though not always) then you are most likely looking at a false chanterelle. 3rd is color because chanterelles come in shades from white to deep yellows (no difference in flavors) but gills you can never be wrong with and they should always have smooth tops, no skin flakes or cracked skin on top unless it's a very very old one and at that point it will be bug infested. 4th, notice chanterelles tend to be meaty and and thicker caps than false chanterelles though wooly chanterelle can be ridiculously meaty but have a messy top with flakes. Chanterelles usually grow in downward sloping rows from each other and at best 2-3 together only yet you will always see more in a nearby area, but never in larger clusters fused together at their base and never in deep red colors. Here's a link to how wooly Chanterelle (false chanterelle) looks like as I ran into these first in the season (fall 2021) and if it wasn't for the weird flakes on top of the crown, orangy color and a larger than normal cluster of them plus much bigger than typical size in June (early in the season without much rain), I could've been fooled that it was a chanterelle. You will notice it just doesn't look inviting to be picked, as you look at it, unlike a real chanterelle that's smooth and looks buttery: www.zoology.ubc.ca/~biodiv/mushroom/T_floccosus.html Another false chanterelle Hygrophorosis aurantiaca (wulfen) Maire: Ashely has mentioned is here (more info) www.first-nature.com/fungi/hygrophoropsis-aurantiaca.php and notice the clean separation of gills on the stem which is not that typical on real chanterelles, rounder, thinner cap and larger more defined gills + deeper orange color. Stems tend to also be taller and thinner where real chanterelles: www.first-nature.com/fungi/hygrophoropsis-aurantiaca.php
This was extremely helpful. First time I watched it I began to doubt my ID skills. You managed to find false chanterelles that seemed more similar than most sites I'd looked at. 2nd time watching and I feel much more confident. Thanks!
Hey Ashley your ID was good enough for me to try a taste for the first time and I ended up with diarrhea within two hours of ingestion...had chills and blurred vision and am still not outta the woods yet but I'm alive! you may say that I miss identified but I was extra careful to make all the right comparisons so I wouldn't get sick, but I did and don't know why...it had no gills solid white chicken like stem, growing in open area with yellowish orange cap which was flat somewhat. If you can spot my error please respond! thanks!
The two different features I notice is the chanterelles have symmetrical gills that are parallel and the false they go every which way. The surface texture is finer on the chanterelle.
Thanks, mate! Trekked through the Gainesville Botanical Gardens today with my wife, deep into the forest paths, and I spotted what looked like dozens of chanterelles on either side of the paths. I was not armed with the knowledge you gave me in this video at the time, so I had to leave them be. They're going for $25 per pound here in Georgia, USA, and I have a bunch from the farmers market in the refrigerator for tomorrow, but I would have loved a couple more pounds of them for mushroom tarts with Madeira sauce.
Contrary to the comments of other viewers i believe you are welcome to make your videos as long as you wish. You are entirely correct, the whole thing is the point! This is by far the most helpful guide on identifying the two, with beautiful 1080p50 HD resolution to tell the gills from ridges. An outstanding post, especially enjoyed the spore print.
Thank you so much, you saved me from a bad stomach ache. I was so excited to find bright orange mushrooms in the forest beside the lake where I was kayaking. I picked a bunch thinking I was about to have a feast. After watching your video, I realized I had picked the false chanterelle. Mine were not bitter as explained on another site, but they had all the characteristics of a false chanterelle. Thanks, I plan on sleeping well tonight.
Thanks. I found many Chanterelle mushrooms in the woods on the Isle of Mull and this video helped me identify them. I washed them thoroughly then cooked them with garlic & olive oil on my camping stove. Delicious.
Very informative video. I'm a beginner to collecting fungi so the detail in your presentation is very useful so please ignore those that tell you to shorten your videos. There is only one other UK based you tuber that I've found who gives me the most confidence to identify fungi. I also really enjoy your other mushroom videos. Thanks for making them and keep making more.
Good video. I just found real chantrel, I usually find false chantrel here. Spore prints have saved my life, I found a huge flush of medow mushrooms, took them home to dry then for storage, I took 4 out of each bag to spore print,, 5 grocery bags full,, 4 mushrooms from 2 bags printed as deadly angel of death mushrooms, they were in amoung the medow mushrooms and I grabbed them, I threw out all the mushrooms I'd collected. Spore prints have saved my life.
Your video really helped me identify the chanterelles I have blooming in my dooryard near an old pecan tree. They were there last year, around the same time and the same spot but I had just moved house and wasn't sure and didn't want to risk getting ill. Your video does a much better job explaining how to identify, your specimen examples are better than other videos. Thank you!
they are also commonly called false gills so I guess you can debate whether to call them gills or not. It doesn't really matter as long as people know what you are talking about :)
Luciferase: I can laugh about it now, but when I was a kid, perhaps 12 years old I took a shortcut through the woods on the way from a friend’s house to home, and encountered a glowing rotten tree trunk with plenty of Jack o lanterns surrounded it. It really gave me the creeps.
i picked about a good few chanterelles today and decided to throw them away because i was so uncertain if i had actually picked this great mushroom. This video was very helpful in determining. the caps skin and textures are quite different.
Yes, Excellent video !!!! Thank you, I have only Just started studying this Mycology stuff for my Plants , because , this is how plants talk to one another under the soil ? ... The Fungus in the dirt. THAT Fungus does not spawn mushrooms, but, I figure why not grow mushrooms at the same time. It is a similar process.
👍Chanterelle vs. False chanterelle...now this is a very good educational video...he doesn't rush through and there's Question and answer which is good 👍🧚♀️🍄🕊
10:14 I got the right one, probably mostly the rot spots etc. Best way to tell them apart imo though is to touch them, they just feel completely different.
Hey nice video! Found a bunch of kantarell today delicious! If you want tips that I can give some honest opinion? Don`t critize yourself, keep it short, a few minutes. you can maybe show both mushrooms all the time when you talk or fade in some clips when you start explaining? Some clips on where you found them? Like the tactics: better something on as nothing. Overall good info. Thanks for the effort.
Oregon is having a great crop of chanterelles this year, just picked all we could carry out. I have also occasionally found false ones, which I have also occasionally eaten. I had no ill effects, although, taste and texture were somewhat inferior to the true chanterelles. We also saw a lot of other edibles like coral, russulas, lobster, meadow, etc. My nose is always my final judge, (on chanterelles) as they have a delicious apricot type fragrance. Picked some nice shaggy parasols about a week ago, they are also a choice edible, but never come up in the quantity that chanterelles do. I'm making some sauces to can as I write this....YUM ! Happy hunting!
Barry thats sounds amazing! I live in Portland, is there areas in the Portland metro area or close by that you'd care to share to a first-timer. I'd love to try to find one of my favorite foods. Thanks!
Just knowing the general habitat I would say you should find some in forrest park. or just head out sunset highway toward Seaside and stop along the way. Probably better on the north facing sides where moss accumulates
OM gosh, this video was so incredibly helpful! Your descriptions are very detailed making it so much easier to identify the real from the fake. I was surprised at how I was easily able to identify the real one from the fake one. I now feel much more confident. Thank you!!
Very interesting and helpful. BTW the reason for Luciferase etc is not necessarily a reference to the devil, but to bio-luminescence as Lucifer if derived from the biblical hebrew meaning "shining one" or "light bearer" referring to Lucifer's special status as an angel before his fall.
Duboise who named the Enzyme/protein family's of Luciferase and Luciferin did so, not for the devil of the church. But because of Lucifer being 'The Bringer of Light', which fits quite nicely for glowing aminals and shrooms.
Interesting thanks. Would love to get out there and see if I can tell the difference in the woods. I'd describe the true chanterelle as tumeric in colour and the false seems to be more of a kind of peachy colour. That makes it reasonably clear when side by side. Not sure if it would be as easy in different lighting when you only have one specimen. The gill difference makes it easier to know though too. Good that the jack o lantern is so easy to ID in comparison due to its internal orange colour.
Hey guy, greetings from Norway. Great video, I like the close-ups and the low-paciness thorough explaining. Did you ever try eating the false chantarelles? How is the taste compared?
I'm in the Pacific Nw , we call the false Chanterelle the white Chanterelle. Been eating them quite regular they're considered the better eating of the two .
Thanks so much for providing this information, you're awesome. We've been harvesting them for years in Mendocino, but never shared what we knew. It's kinda inspired me. Can you do one on black trumpets?
Thanks. I believe I have done one on black trumpets. Is this the mushroom you mean: ua-cam.com/video/tLccgLOTYJ0/v-deo.html I haven't gone into as much identification detail on that one however.
How do mushroom foragers avoid cross contamination when cutting mushrooms? If you use a knife to cut a poisonous mushroom then discard it but then cut another mushroom that you keep and eat is there not a danger of eating a small amount of toxins? Also what do you do about the odd poisonous mushroom hiding in amongst the edible one? Do mushrooms never grow that way?
I wouldn't use the same knife to cut a deathcap and then go on to cut something I was collecting to eat. Washing it will suffice to remove anything. You do get poisonous mushrooms sometimes side-by-side with edible mushrooms and even poisonous look-a-likes side-by-side. A good example would be the sheathed woodtuft (delicious edible) and the funeral bell (potentially deadly). They look very similar indeed and can grow on the same log next to each other. In those cases most people would avoid unless they were very experienced in mushroom picking and observing the two.
I've eaten false Chanterelles 2 days in a row, cooked. They were very good, no health issues whatsoever. Smelled very nice too, that's what first got me to trust them Nice informative video, thanks for sharing! Spore prints on black paper?
Would be good to add spore prints, I can't edit it without re-uploading the whole thing. I'll have to give false chanterelles a try. I guess we don't know if there are some long-term health effects, but the fact the Oaxacan's also eat them suggests not.
While lucifer is the name of the devil, and the church has given rise to some strange names in the past (potatoes were once known as the devils apples), keep in mind that it also means light carrier, and that the suffix -ase implies that the name refers to an enzyme, meaning it could never have been named in medieval times, since enzymes weren't discovered until the early 20th century by Eduard Buchner. So In this context the name luciferase might simply be an indication of the fact that it refers to an enzyme involved with the production of light, by (as you explained) acting on luciferin. Great video btw, very informative!
Lucifer means lucem ferre from "lux ferous" in latin this is lucifers name of beauty before falling lux meaning light and ferrous is iron. the literal translationis lux(light) ferous(bearer or bringer) God named lucifer bearer or bringer of light. He was bright and beautiful. He was a cherubim not an angle though he may take on the appearance of an angel of light. Any how. it is aptly named as it bears the light in the form of luminescence.
Light is an attribute of the holiness of God. In his fallen state, he is no longer holy since he is no longer in good relationship with God. However, he and other fallen Angels are able to appear in various deceptive forms, including as an angel of light. 2 Cor. 11:14...
Aryana Saiter Lucifer is not working for God. Lucifer has deviated from God. The only good that comes from his example is that we know how not to be. And we can see the problems that arise from choosing independence from God. The world is a daily reminder of why we should draw closer to God and not leave Him willfully as did Satan. The only reason he's seen as an angel of light is because he caters to the flesh and the majority of people on Earth want what he places before them. That's why getting to know God and His requirements and His promises is so important. The only way we can turn from evil is by facing the good
@Roland Pierce so I've read the book of Job many times and I don't see what you're seeing. You're trying to assert that that God and the devil are somehow two sides of the same coin or that they are somehow in cahoots with one another. The devil is accusing God as well as Job. He asks God the question: is it for nothing that Job has feared God? Have you not put up a protective hedge around him and his house and everything he has? So what is Satan implying? He's implying that Job serves God only because he's selfish and realizes that serving God is a means of gain but not because he actually cares for God. He's also implying that God is being duped by a human. That accusation can only be proved by taking Jobs things away from him. Satan was certain that Job would curse God to his face. God knew the heart of his servant thoroughly and He has the power to restore everything that Satan would take away from Job, so he allows Satan to test Job. In the end Satan was proved wrong and it becomes clear to us that Satan is a liar that he can't see what God sees in humans. He assumes the worst whereas God sees our potential. That's the point of it and you've completely twisted it.
Thank you. Would you say the false chanterelles do not have the fruity "apricot" scent? Here in Vermont, some of the what I believe are true chanterelles have quite thin folds that appear like somewhat like gills, but still have the other traits such as the lovely fruity aroma.
Unfortunately the false Chanterelles do sometimes have a bit of a fruity aroma so I wouldn't say that it is a guarantee of authenticity. If you had them side by side, I wager the Chanterelle would smell a lot more obviously fruity/apricot, but on it's own I don't think it is enough. The state of the gills should really be the obvious factor, but if you've haven't assured yourself of a true Chanterelle, that might be difficult.
good video, very interesting. I have found chanterelles in scotland (trossachs area) around july. I was wondering if i would still find them at this time of year ? mid september ? thanks a lot
Hi Jamie, I have found that it is possible to find Chanterelles whenever the conditions are sufficiently mild and there is enough rain. I've found them from February through to November at various times. So it's worth looking!
Ashley Mills thanks a lot for getting back to me. Appreciate it. i ended up finding quite a lot around mid september in the trossachs area. thanks again
So, i've been watching other vids and It seems there's some confusions out there between the differences in false chanterelles and jack o lanterns. Essentially the others vids were claiming that the true gill, grows out of trees variety was the false chanterelle and the grows in the ground, has bifrucated gills is the jack o lantern. Would you mind clearing this up for me?
no they have that the wrong way around, the jack o lantern grows on the rotting wood, the false chanterelle has bifurcated gills and grows out the ground
Hi ! Are you still hunting mushrooms? I'm in south Georgia as well. I want to start collecting, learn how to dry them for projects and decor. Please respond.
Hi Crystal, yes I'm still hunting mushrooms but haven't had much room for them (lol) recently as just had another child and before that my wife had hyperemesis during the pregnancy. I'm not going anywhere however and will be making more videos again in the future. To dry them you just chop them up and put them in a dehydrator for 12-24 hours and then seal them in airtight jars.
Thank you so much for answering and I really pray your wife and baby will recover fully . I pray you will have the strength and patience to endure the entire recovery process. #goodnutrition I just picked some wild ones in a park for their shape. I want them for craft project I saw. I don't have a dehydrator, for now they are in dirt inside a bag, on my patio, in a bag until I can know a safe way to dry them.Any other suggestions for drying without chopping up?@@AshleyMillsTube
i didn't watch your whole video, but every time i see a shady chanterelle i do a sniff test, and it always gives me the typical woody apricot smell. Does the false one have this smell?
I am not an expert but I've collected Chanterelles all my life and I honestly believe that this is not accurate. The first Chanterelles in the video were just few days older and on more sunny spot than the other. I might be wrong but that is my opinion.
@@AshleyMillsTube yes, just different age and growing environment. They always grow on the same spots and i"ve collected the "real" and "the false" on exact same location, just rainless days apart.
there are other differences, the false chanterelle grows in clusters on decaying hardwood (sometimes a few inches away from it) while the chanterelle grows alone, or in groups of 2-4, but no more than that. In the wild, the colors are also more vibrant and easier to differentiate. The smell of the chanterelle is also much different than the false chanterelle, it being fruit like while the false chanterelle being the traditional white button mushroom smell.
to make reference to yuor comment on the false chanterelle being edible, i,ve either eaten the genuine or false im unsure, but 4 days later im perfectly fine. No intestinal discomfort and quite a tasty mushroom indeed.
These are pretty easy to tell apart. The simplest way to tell is look at the "gills". False chanterelles have actual bifurcated gills whereas chanterelles have false gills that often don't even completely go from the edge of the cap to down the stem. I know you essentially said this, but I was saying this is the way to identify which you have in my opinion.
The false one is eaten by various indigenous populations in areas of Mexico and Portugal (that I know of), so it should be safe, although who knows. This is mainly so you don't eat the false one because the Chanterelle is a far better mushroom. But also it is always worth knowing exactly what you are eating.
Probably nothing. Quite a few books I have list it as being edible. Notably, Roger Phillip's book mentions that there have been some reports of hallucinations. But this seems unlikely since it isn't listed in any books on hallucinogenic mushrooms that I know of. I think it's one of those which because people don't eat it a lot, or it has fallen out of fashion, people now regard it with suspicion. Whereas since the normal chanterelle is eaten widely and very often, we can be completely convinced that it's safe.
I have never ever heard of poisoning from false chantarelles, and in swedish litterature they aren't concidered as poisonous, but just as worthless as a food source as they are said to be very bland :)
looking forward to hear how they've tasted :) Just because some experts dosen't classify something as choice edible dosen't mean that others cannot love it :) For example you love chicken of the woords and many people from English speaking countries does but in Sweden it has never been populair - I haven't seen or tasted it but would love to. Also I love both Sarcodon squamosus and Sarcodon imbricatus and despite they are being concidered edible they aren't really appriciated I love them personally and think they are so incredible underrated :) So in other words, hoping you'll make a video about tasting the false chantarelles in case you're gonna try them :) Have seen lot's of false chantarelles this year btw :)
yeah, who knows. Hoping this season will be a good mushroom season. So far it has been incredibly dry which means if it rains for example all of august it should be a bumper year.
Thanks for making this video! I picked what I thought were real chanterelles, but after viewing your video, I determined they were certainly fake. Dodged a gastric mess for sure!! Haha
Good question. According to a 2003 survey of Zapotecs in Oaxaca, False Chanterelle was considered edible. Other sources report it as mildly poisonous. Now we have to ask ourselves, are there genetic differences between our false chanterelles and those in Oaxaca? Do Zapotecs have evolutionary adaptations to breakdown the sugar Arabitol? Are Zapotecs more or less likely to have gastro-intestinal symptoms after consuming this mushroom? In Roger Phillip's books he says a friend of his reported alarming hallucinations after eating it, but if this were true I imagine more people would eat it. There isn't a clear consensus on the edibility of this mushroom at present or deep understanding of what really is going on. Is it confusion with jack-o-lantern, or is it genuinely mildly poisonous in some cases? Some of the books I have list it as edible, some edible only after cooking, some as inedible. It at present seems suspicious. I might try it myself in the future.
the main point is that you see enough of the mushrooms that you can tell the difference, I think in that sense the video was a success. But if I get the chance I'll make a summary video that is a max of 3 mins long. cheers
One thing to keep in mind, chanterelles always grow near trees they form a symbiotic relationship with, they are mycorrihizal. Oak, maple, poplar, birch - hardwoods.
Part of the reason you want to get your chanterelles with the stems and not cut them off too high to the crown is to see how the gills grow from the stem upward. Chanterelles gills are fused to the stem and it's as if they are part of the stem where false chanterelles often times have a define line where stem is smooth then gills grow from right under the grown upward. I find chanterelles one of the easiest to figure out with the gills. If you can move the gills back and forth with a knife or finger, they seem flimsy and delicate or easily fall part, if you can see a clear separation from stem to gills, and the color is slightly orange (though not always) then you are most likely looking at a false chanterelle. 3rd is color because chanterelles come in shades from white to deep yellows (no difference in flavors) but gills you can never be wrong with and they should always have smooth tops, no skin flakes or cracked skin on top unless it's a very very old one and at that point it will be bug infested. 4th, notice chanterelles tend to be meaty and and thicker caps than false chanterelles though wooly chanterelle can be ridiculously meaty but have a messy top with flakes. Chanterelles usually grow in downward sloping rows from each other and at best 2-3 together only yet you will always see more in a nearby area, but never in larger clusters fused together at their base and never in deep red colors.
Here's a link to how wooly Chanterelle (false chanterelle) looks like as I ran into these first in the season (fall 2021) and if it wasn't for the weird flakes on top of the crown, orangy color and a larger than normal cluster of them plus much bigger than typical size in June (early in the season without much rain), I could've been fooled that it was a chanterelle. You will notice it just doesn't look inviting to be picked, as you look at it, unlike a real chanterelle that's smooth and looks buttery: www.zoology.ubc.ca/~biodiv/mushroom/T_floccosus.html
Another false chanterelle Hygrophorosis aurantiaca (wulfen) Maire:
Ashely has mentioned is here (more info) www.first-nature.com/fungi/hygrophoropsis-aurantiaca.php and notice the clean separation of gills on the stem which is not that typical on real chanterelles, rounder, thinner cap and larger more defined gills + deeper orange color. Stems tend to also be taller and thinner where real chanterelles: www.first-nature.com/fungi/hygrophoropsis-aurantiaca.php
Thanks for the info!
This was extremely helpful.
First time I watched it I began to doubt my ID skills. You managed to find false chanterelles that seemed more similar than most sites I'd looked at. 2nd time watching and I feel much more confident.
Thanks!
Good, I'm glad it was useful. happy hunting!
Dude, you passed on SO much info with this video. Thank you. Explained things in detail very well. Especially appreciated the spore print section
cheers bro
Absolutely the best ID of the Chanterelle I've seen yet!! Awesome job, thanks!
Cheers :)
Hey Ashley your ID was good enough for me to try a taste for the first time and I ended up with diarrhea within two hours of ingestion...had chills and blurred vision and am still not outta the woods yet but I'm alive! you may say that I miss identified but I was extra careful to make all the right comparisons so I wouldn't get sick, but I did and don't know why...it had no gills solid white chicken like stem, growing in open area with yellowish orange cap which was flat somewhat. If you can spot my error please respond! thanks!
I'd need to see the actual mushroom. Did you take any photos? Can you go back to the same spot and find the same one and take a photo?
I will get a photo for you but how do I get it to you? I feel much better now, and hope it stays this way!
You could either take a video and upload it to youtube and put the link here, or email me a photo at ashley@ashleymills.com, cheers
The two different features I notice is the chanterelles have symmetrical gills that are parallel and the false they go every which way. The surface texture is finer on the chanterelle.
Thanks, mate! Trekked through the Gainesville Botanical Gardens today with my wife, deep into the forest paths, and I spotted what looked like dozens of chanterelles on either side of the paths. I was not armed with the knowledge you gave me in this video at the time, so I had to leave them be. They're going for $25 per pound here in Georgia, USA, and I have a bunch from the farmers market in the refrigerator for tomorrow, but I would have loved a couple more pounds of them for mushroom tarts with Madeira sauce.
Mushroom tarts with Madeira sauce, sounds delicious! No worries, perhaps next time you'll be ready to pick them! cheers
Mushroom tarts with Madeira sauce, sounds delicious! No worries, perhaps next time you'll be ready to pick them! cheers
Contrary to the comments of other viewers i believe you are welcome to make your videos as long as you wish. You are entirely correct, the whole thing is the point! This is by far the most helpful guide on identifying the two, with beautiful 1080p50 HD resolution to tell the gills from ridges. An outstanding post, especially enjoyed the spore print.
Thanks Rusty!
Very informative, very useful indeed. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, please do more mushroom hunting/mushroom identification videos.
cheers mate. Will do more videos this autumn, assuming there is enough rain!
Thank you so much, you saved me from a bad stomach ache. I was so excited to find bright orange mushrooms in the forest beside the lake where I was kayaking. I picked a bunch thinking I was about to have a feast. After watching your video, I realized I had picked the false chanterelle. Mine were not bitter as explained on another site, but they had all the characteristics of a false chanterelle. Thanks, I plan on sleeping well tonight.
Cool, glad I could be of service :)
Thanks. I found many Chanterelle mushrooms in the woods on the Isle of Mull and this video helped me identify them. I washed them thoroughly then cooked them with garlic & olive oil on my camping stove. Delicious.
Cheers, sounds delicious :)
Very informative video. I'm a beginner to collecting fungi so the detail in your presentation is very useful so please ignore those that tell you to shorten your videos. There is only one other UK based you tuber that I've found who gives me the most confidence to identify fungi. I also really enjoy your other mushroom videos. Thanks for making them and keep making more.
Thanks! I will keep making them. Probably no more this season unless I'm lucky and find something to film.
Thank you very much. This is exactly what I needed.
Thanks
Good video. I just found real chantrel, I usually find false chantrel here. Spore prints have saved my life, I found a huge flush of medow mushrooms, took them home to dry then for storage, I took 4 out of each bag to spore print,, 5 grocery bags full,, 4 mushrooms from 2 bags printed as deadly angel of death mushrooms, they were in amoung the medow mushrooms and I grabbed them, I threw out all the mushrooms I'd collected.
Spore prints have saved my life.
Good job you did the spore print!
Your video really helped me identify the chanterelles I have blooming in my dooryard near an old pecan tree. They were there last year, around the same time and the same spot but I had just moved house and wasn't sure and didn't want to risk getting ill. Your video does a much better job explaining how to identify, your specimen examples are better than other videos. Thank you!
Great, I'm glad you were able to enjoy the chanterelles you found.
Chanterelle do not have gills btw they are wrinkles
they are also commonly called false gills so I guess you can debate whether to call them gills or not. It doesn't really matter as long as people know what you are talking about :)
I thought your video was really good - you particularly took time to cover every concern that a virgin forager has! Well done you! Loved it
Thanks Jane
Thanks ! Really helps!
Luciferase: I can laugh about it now, but when I was a kid, perhaps 12 years old I took a shortcut through the woods on the way from a friend’s house to home, and encountered a glowing rotten tree trunk with plenty of Jack o lanterns surrounded it. It really gave me the creeps.
i picked about a good few chanterelles today and decided to throw them away because i was so uncertain if i had actually picked this great mushroom. This video was very helpful in determining. the caps skin and textures are quite different.
Kevin C cool, I hope you are able to enjoy the chanterelles some time in the future
Thank you so much for this video! It was really helpful
you're welcome
very informative. Thanks.
Cheers
Yes, Excellent video !!!! Thank you, I have only Just started studying this Mycology stuff for my Plants , because , this is how plants talk to one another under the soil ? ... The Fungus in the dirt. THAT Fungus does not spawn mushrooms, but, I figure why not grow mushrooms at the same time. It is a similar process.
Cheers
Dude looks kind of like qui him jinn ??????
Thank you very much. All information helps to narrow down identification . Well described. Look forward to other Shroom Law.
Thank you for the detailed description of each mushroom.
You're welcome, cheers
Thanks very much. Useful video
Great vid mate... picked a load of false today.. will be trying a different woodland soon.
This video was very helpful! Thanks
cheers!
Very good video from what looks like a well informed specialist ☺️👍
thanks
Thank you. I picked false chanterelle last year thinking they were the real thing - helps a lot
Cheers Lee!
👍Chanterelle vs. False chanterelle...now this is a very good educational video...he doesn't rush through and there's
Question and answer which is good 👍🧚♀️🍄🕊
cheers
10:14 I got the right one, probably mostly the rot spots etc. Best way to tell them apart imo though is to touch them, they just feel completely different.
Hey nice video! Found a bunch of kantarell today delicious! If you want tips that I can give some honest opinion?
Don`t critize yourself,
keep it short, a few minutes.
you can maybe show both mushrooms all the time when you talk or fade in some clips when you start explaining?
Some clips on where you found them?
Like the tactics: better something on as nothing. Overall good info.
Thanks for the effort.
cheers. thanks for the tips, always welcome :)
Oregon is having a great crop of chanterelles this year, just picked all we could carry out. I have also occasionally found false ones, which I have also occasionally eaten. I had no ill effects, although, taste and texture were somewhat inferior to the true chanterelles. We also saw a lot of other edibles like coral, russulas, lobster, meadow, etc.
My nose is always my final judge, (on chanterelles) as they have a delicious apricot type fragrance. Picked some nice shaggy parasols about a week ago, they are also a choice edible, but never come up in the quantity that chanterelles do. I'm making some sauces to can as I write this....YUM !
Happy hunting!
Sounds bountiful! Cheers
Barry thats sounds amazing! I live in Portland, is there areas in the Portland metro area or close by that you'd care to share to a first-timer. I'd love to try to find one of my favorite foods. Thanks!
Just knowing the general habitat I would say you should find some in forrest park. or just head out sunset highway toward Seaside and stop along the way. Probably better on the north facing sides where moss accumulates
OM gosh, this video was so incredibly helpful! Your descriptions are very detailed making it so much easier to identify the real from the fake. I was surprised at how I was easily able to identify the real one from the fake one. I now feel much more confident. Thank you!!
Great, glad I could help!
Thanks Ashley, I picked what I thought was Chanterelle but they were false Chanterelle. Saved myself side effects. Please do more videos. Many thanks
Good to know it was useful! Thanks
Sorry if I missed it but did this video address the smell? Do false chanterelles have the same apricot like smell of the true chanterelle?
Very interesting and helpful. BTW the reason for Luciferase etc is not necessarily a reference to the devil, but to bio-luminescence as Lucifer if derived from the biblical hebrew meaning "shining one" or "light bearer" referring to Lucifer's special status as an angel before his fall.
Thanks, very interesting point about the etymology of Lucifer
The white ring around the cap on the underside can be a give away too
I have a small spruce woods near me absolutely full of jack o lanterns in the UK, didnt know they were so rare
wow, that's really cool
Thank you. Enjoyed this video.
Duboise who named the Enzyme/protein family's of Luciferase and Luciferin did so, not for the devil of the church. But because of Lucifer being 'The Bringer of Light', which fits quite nicely for glowing aminals and shrooms.
thanks
Interesting thanks. Would love to get out there and see if I can tell the difference in the woods.
I'd describe the true chanterelle as tumeric in colour and the false seems to be more of a kind of peachy colour. That makes it reasonably clear when side by side. Not sure if it would be as easy in different lighting when you only have one specimen. The gill difference makes it easier to know though too.
Good that the jack o lantern is so easy to ID in comparison due to its internal orange colour.
Thanks, shame (or perhaps good) that the jack o lantern is very rare in the UK, otherwise I could have found one and compared that too.
Well done sir
I know it didn't turn out like you had hoped by thank you so much for the effort!
Super!
some really good info ... very knowledgeable mate
Cheers mate!
Hey guy, greetings from Norway. Great video, I like the close-ups and the low-paciness thorough explaining. Did you ever try eating the false chantarelles? How is the taste compared?
Thanks, no I didn't try eating it.
I'm in the Pacific Nw , we call the false Chanterelle the white Chanterelle. Been eating them quite regular they're considered the better eating of the two .
Thanks so much for providing this information, you're awesome. We've been harvesting them for years in Mendocino, but never shared what we knew. It's kinda inspired me. Can you do one on black trumpets?
Thanks. I believe I have done one on black trumpets. Is this the mushroom you mean: ua-cam.com/video/tLccgLOTYJ0/v-deo.html
I haven't gone into as much identification detail on that one however.
Superb, thank you!
Cheers!
there's a few reports ao hallucinations but... I don't care about that.
How do mushroom foragers avoid cross contamination when cutting mushrooms? If you use a knife to cut a poisonous mushroom then discard it but then cut another mushroom that you keep and eat is there not a danger of eating a small amount of toxins?
Also what do you do about the odd poisonous mushroom hiding in amongst the edible one? Do mushrooms never grow that way?
I wouldn't use the same knife to cut a deathcap and then go on to cut something I was collecting to eat. Washing it will suffice to remove anything.
You do get poisonous mushrooms sometimes side-by-side with edible mushrooms and even poisonous look-a-likes side-by-side. A good example would be the sheathed woodtuft (delicious edible) and the funeral bell (potentially deadly). They look very similar indeed and can grow on the same log next to each other. In those cases most people would avoid unless they were very experienced in mushroom picking and observing the two.
I've eaten false Chanterelles 2 days in a row, cooked. They were very good, no health issues whatsoever. Smelled very nice too, that's what first got me to trust them
Nice informative video, thanks for sharing!
Spore prints on black paper?
Would be good to add spore prints, I can't edit it without re-uploading the whole thing.
I'll have to give false chanterelles a try. I guess we don't know if there are some long-term health effects, but the fact the Oaxacan's also eat them suggests not.
@@AshleyMillsTube i'll see whether i can make spore prints anytime soon... Are you sure the American species is the same?
@@elineeugenie5224yes it's the same
While lucifer is the name of the devil, and the church has given rise to some strange names in the past (potatoes were once known as the devils apples), keep in mind that it also means light carrier, and that the suffix -ase implies that the name refers to an enzyme, meaning it could never have been named in medieval times, since enzymes weren't discovered until the early 20th century by Eduard Buchner. So In this context the name luciferase might simply be an indication of the fact that it refers to an enzyme involved with the production of light, by (as you explained) acting on luciferin. Great video btw, very informative!
Thanks, good point about medieval times.
Well explained, thanks!
you're welcome
Helpful, thank you!
You're welcome!
Lucifer means lucem ferre from "lux ferous" in latin this is lucifers name of beauty before falling lux meaning light and ferrous is iron. the literal translationis lux(light) ferous(bearer or bringer) God named lucifer bearer or bringer of light. He was bright and beautiful. He was a cherubim not an angle though he may take on the appearance of an angel of light. Any how. it is aptly named as it bears the light in the form of luminescence.
Thanks. In the theology is he still considered bright? or after the fall is he now rendered lightless?
Light is an attribute of the holiness of God. In his fallen state, he is no longer holy since he is no longer in good relationship with God. However, he and other fallen Angels are able to appear in various deceptive forms, including as an angel of light. 2 Cor. 11:14...
Johnson Knox * Lucifer is doing work for God by tempting Souls.
Aryana Saiter Lucifer is not working for God. Lucifer has deviated from God. The only good that comes from his example is that we know how not to be. And we can see the problems that arise from choosing independence from God. The world is a daily reminder of why we should draw closer to God and not leave Him willfully as did Satan. The only reason he's seen as an angel of light is because he caters to the flesh and the majority of people on Earth want what he places before them. That's why getting to know God and His requirements and His promises is so important. The only way we can turn from evil is by facing the good
@Roland Pierce so I've read the book of Job many times and I don't see what you're seeing. You're trying to assert that that God and the devil are somehow two sides of the same coin or that they are somehow in cahoots with one another. The devil is accusing God as well as Job. He asks God the question: is it for nothing that Job has feared God? Have you not put up a protective hedge around him and his house and everything he has?
So what is Satan implying? He's implying that Job serves God only because he's selfish and realizes that serving God is a means of gain but not because he actually cares for God. He's also implying that God is being duped by a human. That accusation can only be proved by taking Jobs things away from him. Satan was certain that Job would curse God to his face. God knew the heart of his servant thoroughly and He has the power to restore everything that Satan would take away from Job, so he allows Satan to test Job. In the end Satan was proved wrong and it becomes clear to us that Satan is a liar that he can't see what God sees in humans. He assumes the worst whereas God sees our potential. That's the point of it and you've completely twisted it.
Thank you, very helpful
Thank you. Would you say the false chanterelles do not have the fruity "apricot" scent? Here in Vermont, some of the what I believe are true chanterelles have quite thin folds that appear like somewhat like gills, but still have the other traits such as the lovely fruity aroma.
Unfortunately the false Chanterelles do sometimes have a bit of a fruity aroma so I wouldn't say that it is a guarantee of authenticity. If you had them side by side, I wager the Chanterelle would smell a lot more obviously fruity/apricot, but on it's own I don't think it is enough.
The state of the gills should really be the obvious factor, but if you've haven't assured yourself of a true Chanterelle, that might be difficult.
Ashley Mills Thanks-much appreciated.
good video, very interesting. I have found chanterelles in scotland (trossachs area) around july. I was wondering if i would still find them at this time of year ? mid september ?
thanks a lot
Hi Jamie, I have found that it is possible to find Chanterelles whenever the conditions are sufficiently mild and there is enough rain. I've found them from February through to November at various times. So it's worth looking!
Ashley Mills thanks a lot for getting back to me. Appreciate it. i ended up finding quite a lot around mid september in the trossachs area. thanks again
So, i've been watching other vids and It seems there's some confusions out there between the differences in false chanterelles and jack o lanterns. Essentially the others vids were claiming that the true gill, grows out of trees variety was the false chanterelle and the grows in the ground, has bifrucated gills is the jack o lantern. Would you mind clearing this up for me?
no they have that the wrong way around, the jack o lantern grows on the rotting wood, the false chanterelle has bifurcated gills and grows out the ground
Great deatail and good closeups
Cheers
You da best!
thanks :D
I love chantrells, they grow all over louisiana and are delicious. :)
me too :)
Hi ! Are you still hunting mushrooms? I'm in south Georgia as well. I want to start collecting, learn how to dry them for projects and decor. Please respond.
Hi Crystal, yes I'm still hunting mushrooms but haven't had much room for them (lol) recently as just had another child and before that my wife had hyperemesis during the pregnancy. I'm not going anywhere however and will be making more videos again in the future. To dry them you just chop them up and put them in a dehydrator for 12-24 hours and then seal them in airtight jars.
Thank you so much for answering and I really pray your wife and baby will recover fully . I pray you will have the strength and patience to endure the entire recovery process. #goodnutrition I just picked some wild ones in a park for their shape. I want them for craft project I saw. I don't have a dehydrator, for now they are in dirt inside a bag, on my patio, in a bag until I can know a safe way to dry them.Any other suggestions for drying without chopping up?@@AshleyMillsTube
i didn't watch your whole video, but every time i see a shady chanterelle i do a sniff test, and it always gives me the typical woody apricot smell. Does the false one have this smell?
10:15 oh I can, you underestimate my eye for mushroom identification. The chanterelle is on the left.
Lucifer translates to the light berer, so it makes sense.
I am not an expert but I've collected Chanterelles all my life and I honestly believe that this is not accurate. The first Chanterelles in the video were just few days older and on more sunny spot than the other. I might be wrong but that is my opinion.
Are you saying you believe the false chanterelles are actually chanterelles?
@@AshleyMillsTube yes, just different age and growing environment. They always grow on the same spots and i"ve collected the "real" and "the false" on exact same location, just rainless days apart.
@@Eloohim no, they are completely different species. the differences can be small but they are definitely different.
@@AshleyMillsTube maybe you are right.
Nice video! Haha, do you also have a cat called Cosmo? :D Me too. meow
haha yes, in some other videos I think both cats appear meaow
These look much too similar for me to be comfortable eatting them.
there are other differences, the false chanterelle grows in clusters on decaying hardwood (sometimes a few inches away from it) while the chanterelle grows alone, or in groups of 2-4, but no more than that. In the wild, the colors are also more vibrant and easier to differentiate. The smell of the chanterelle is also much different than the false chanterelle, it being fruit like while the false chanterelle being the traditional white button mushroom smell.
Thank you for this!! How can I spread the spores so more will grow in my area?
Carry the mushrooms around in a woven basket, or throw some of the stem-butts about.
to make reference to yuor comment on the false chanterelle being edible, i,ve either eaten the genuine or false im unsure, but 4 days later im perfectly fine. No intestinal discomfort and quite a tasty mushroom indeed.
I see, and you are sure it was one of the two?
Ashley Mills 90% sure. Definitely not jack o's. Still breathing too which is a bonus 👍
Brillant!!
These are pretty easy to tell apart. The simplest way to tell is look at the "gills". False chanterelles have actual bifurcated gills whereas chanterelles have false gills that often don't even completely go from the edge of the cap to down the stem. I know you essentially said this, but I was saying this is the way to identify which you have in my opinion.
Thanks
Thank you! So helpful?
Thanks
Awesome!
Cheers
This helped a lot.
cheers
thank u for this vid!
Is the false one still edible? Or is this video to make sure you don't eat the false one?
The false one is eaten by various indigenous populations in areas of Mexico and Portugal (that I know of), so it should be safe, although who knows. This is mainly so you don't eat the false one because the Chanterelle is a far better mushroom. But also it is always worth knowing exactly what you are eating.
Thanks Ashley
Cheers!
What happens if you eat false chanterelle??
Probably nothing. Quite a few books I have list it as being edible. Notably, Roger Phillip's book mentions that there have been some reports of hallucinations. But this seems unlikely since it isn't listed in any books on hallucinogenic mushrooms that I know of.
I think it's one of those which because people don't eat it a lot, or it has fallen out of fashion, people now regard it with suspicion. Whereas since the normal chanterelle is eaten widely and very often, we can be completely convinced that it's safe.
is so easy a cave man can do it, hehehe
but thanks for the priceless info👍
cheers!
SO, JACK O LANTERN DEADLY POISONOUS, BUT, FALSE CHANTERELLE NOT POISONOUS?
False chanterelle's considered edible but some people feel sick after eating it, so it's best avoided
I have never ever heard of poisoning from false chantarelles, and in swedish litterature they aren't concidered as poisonous, but just as worthless as a food source as they are said to be very bland :)
Jan Johansen thanks for the insight Jan. i think I'll eat some next year and do a video
looking forward to hear how they've tasted :) Just because some experts dosen't classify something as choice edible dosen't mean that others cannot love it :) For example you love chicken of the woords and many people from English speaking countries does but in Sweden it has never been populair - I haven't seen or tasted it but would love to. Also I love both Sarcodon squamosus and Sarcodon imbricatus and despite they are being concidered edible they aren't really appriciated I love them personally and think they are so incredible underrated :) So in other words, hoping you'll make a video about tasting the false chantarelles in case you're gonna try them :) Have seen lot's of false chantarelles this year btw :)
well some further reading it says that in large quantities you can become ill but it never said about how large :)
yeah, who knows. Hoping this season will be a good mushroom season. So far it has been incredibly dry which means if it rains for example all of august it should be a bumper year.
Thanks for making this video! I picked what I thought were real chanterelles, but after viewing your video, I determined they were certainly fake. Dodged a gastric mess for sure!! Haha
lol
So, false Chantelle is poisonous?
Good question. According to a 2003 survey of Zapotecs in Oaxaca, False Chanterelle was considered edible. Other sources report it as mildly poisonous. Now we have to ask ourselves, are there genetic differences between our false chanterelles and those in Oaxaca? Do Zapotecs have evolutionary adaptations to breakdown the sugar Arabitol? Are Zapotecs more or less likely to have gastro-intestinal symptoms after consuming this mushroom?
In Roger Phillip's books he says a friend of his reported alarming hallucinations after eating it, but if this were true I imagine more people would eat it.
There isn't a clear consensus on the edibility of this mushroom at present or deep understanding of what really is going on. Is it confusion with jack-o-lantern, or is it genuinely mildly poisonous in some cases?
Some of the books I have list it as edible, some edible only after cooking, some as inedible.
It at present seems suspicious. I might try it myself in the future.
They still look identical to me.
Once you find them in real life it might help :)
Thanks, I finally watched enough videos to be able to differentiate them even while lacking local expert guidance. Very tasty.
Awesome, I knew there was some benefit in making the video so long! Cheers
I like your vids yet just a lesson on 'Lucifer'... is not some sort of weird 'Church hate'... but means 'Light bearer'... Luminous... etc.
woah
If only I could understand that brand of spoken ENGLISH.
good stuff!
Cheers!
False shrimp trout 🤣
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0:05 It's Jesus!
if only I had that many followers!
gills bad barely gills good!
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Get to the point. You're talking to much. Keep it short!!!!
the main point is that you see enough of the mushrooms that you can tell the difference, I think in that sense the video was a success. But if I get the chance I'll make a summary video that is a max of 3 mins long. cheers
or put time stamps for the main points
I would say that a Chanterelle has ridges not gills.