Cooler Master MM720 Review (mouse with ring finger rest)
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2020
- Generally I wouldn't review these types of mice anymore because I don't believe they're the right shape for competitive aim, which is what I like to focus on. However, this mouse has a lot of the features of top competitive mice, so I thought I would take a look anyway.
The good news from this, for me at least, is that Cooler Master are continuing to improve on their quality across the board, so once we get some new shapes from them, I think we'll be seeing even more mice up with the MM710 in the Top Mice list.
But the catch there is that shape is probably the hardest part of making mice these days, so we'll see how they go.
Anyway, if you like mice where you can rest your ring finger, this is a top choice!
Also, I mentioned the MM520 but just found my copy, that is a fair bit bigger than this. This is like the Spawn and Xornet.
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i aim so much better with this mouse then with any other. so i think the "thinner is better for aiming" statement is just dumb
What is your grip type?
Yes you do aim better with it but you will reach a plateau that only thin mice will allow you to cross.
@@TAP-wi2fm Sounds really scientific and not at all anecdotal bro
@@TAP-wi2fm Its all preferance man, i have this mouse and I think that the wider feel is way better
Exactly, it's just nonsense
It's definitely wide, however, with the right grip, it works. Zy's opinion about it not being good for competitive is straight up wrong and ONLY applies to 1 specific grip which HE, not you, is using. There are many different locations where you can place your finger -tips - flats - joints etc. on any mouse AND use different techniques to turn the mouse (e.g. pivot on pinky using thumbtip in addition to wrist turning), so this can certainly be a precision mouse for competitive gaming. It just ultimately depends on your grip style and method of manipulating the mouse to aim.
Agree here. This mouse is a small hand / claw grip masterpiece. I use it over my capetown and my M1 now. It's just so perfect for claw grippers,
agree this mouse works for me perfectly idk why Zy's opinion about it not being good for competitive fps players
Not to mention he's measuring it from the widest possible point, which is a glorified finger rest. The portion between your thumb and ring finger is a comparable width.
Also, he said don't get it for fingertip grip? For me, it's perfect for fingertip. Just don't place your fingertips on the far front edge and you'll be fine. In fact, with this placement, your thumb will be perfectly between the two side buttons.
Big agreement from me, have been aim training with the MM720 and the Xenics Titan GE air which is a wireless clone of it for some time now, reaching Voltaic master scores :D
I don't get why this wouldn't be a "competitive shape". Don't liking the shape is one thing but the arguments behind seems like pseudoscience to me.
Yeah he's definitely wrong. Don't recommend people to get skinny grip width mice if theyre not comfortable using them. You're not missing out on anything.
@@Foxcez wait you are wrong they are missing out on carpal tunnel syndrome and other Injuries
@@Foxcez yeh honestly I have found out that for me the most comfortable mouse is the best I aim with
I’m with you big dawg
Because that is what he can say from personal experience. He personally performs worse with that shape, so he wouldn't recommend it.
Just to put this into perspective:
This shape is over 10 years old now, and coolermaster has brought it back multiple times in between those ten years. This is a testament to its popularity and, with all due respect to RJN and other reviewers who take the time to assess the mouse, a review simply cannot get across the uniqueness of this mouse shape. It's really something you have to personally try yourself.
Yeah it has its fan club, but I review mice for competitive FPS these days and I don't believe this has good aim potential.
If it's comfort you want ... well I don't even find it comfortable, but power to you if you do.
@@RocketJumpNinja Rain has cs go's one of the best mechanical aims and has always used this kind of shape. I would be really intersted to see him use "normal" shaped mouse and see how he performs.
@@RocketJumpNinja I cannot place my ring finger on the right side of a mouse as it will quickly cause hand pain from applying any lateral force, but putting it on top gives me very little control of the mouse. (I believe this has something to do with the relative lengths of my fingers and hand structure.) My current best mouse is a super egg shape that I have cut off part of the button and made a finger spot using polymer putty glue. I'm hoping that this mouse will allow me to have good grip on the mouse while allowing for a large finger range of motion although I'm concerned about the second part.
@@liquidmetal9015 shape and comfort matters a lot, you honestly want to put comfort over everything else. won't matter how good your aim is if your wrists start hurting.
@@blakkpatron You must be new to this channel, lol
This will be my next mouse! I already had the xornet 2 and really liked of the shape.
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Mas eu relação ao mouse, ainda uso um xornet II, o scroll ja foi pro saco faz tempo, mas ainda o uso, nao consegui me adaptar com outro mouse e nem sei qual ficaria tão bem quando o xornet, esperar pra ver se pego um desse.
slv man
@@jsilva-p kkkkkk. Aí foi foda. I gostava.
luigitec, você por aqui!
I bought one out of curiosity and I honestly really enjoy it and I feel like I aim better with this than most mice. Very comfortable and gives no hand fatigue
Your hand size bro?
I main fingertip and this is by far my favorite fingertip mouse. I also really don't like wired mice but I'm willing to deal with a cable as well as the bad scroll wheel and buttons all because of the shape. Its the only mouse I've tried where i can pick it up and instantly do well with it. Its also my best mouse when it comes to consistency
Bro, I share this exact sentiment. My subjectively uncomfortable G703 started double clicking so now I have an excuse to buy this mouse. Really excited to test it out. Idc anymore about wireless or wired if the shape is this good!
@@rq9622 how did it go??
@@pav1u To my surprise, I disliked the shape. Returned the mouse :D
i used to have the cm storm xornet and this has been my absolute favourite mouse shape to this date
its a fingertip mouse, even though zy apparently disagrees
Do you use a mouse like that in fingertip? Im a loving fingertip fps player. I find this mouse interesting. Because I play with much circular movements with my finger and wrist, this makes my aim very good. I think this mouse could have the perfect build for this. I think I try it out when it comes out.
@@bibabutzemann5661 This is one shape that i would recommend every fingertip player to try out. It can be THE mouse for you.
I was wondering if maybe he misspoke? He said to look at other mice if you fingertip grip, but this mouse has all the makings of a fingertip grip endgame.
@@MarzBigL Yeah makes me wonder too
I use the CM Spawn as a fingertip mouse. It would probably feel better if it were a bit narrower, but I still prefer it to more traditional shapes because of the ring finger rest. It makes it feel easier and more natural to grip, and as far as lightweight mice, it's the only mouse that has one. Every other mouse with a ring finger rest is a large, "mmo" mouse.
I have very "square" hands (wide palm relative to overall length), so many competitive, thinner mice have a habit of giving me cramps with regular use, since I'm forced to use a very tight fingertip grip, so I'm glad they're bringing the design back
one of my favourite mouse shapes of all time. i really think you should spend more time with it and re assess.
This is my favorite mouse ever, i've had tons including the starlight, ul2, DA, Da mini, model o, o-, d, d-, and many more
When i bought it i was not sold at all i just wanted to try it, but i insantly fell in love, it is absolutely worth trying
xenics titan ge air
ZY - You don't measure claw grip width from the outside of the mouse in this case. You do it where the ring finger ledge starts. The ring finger rests on the ledge and you can easily pick up the mouse without the pinky involved. This is a very finger tip review. I had been using the Capetown and the M1 before I got this mouse, and this one is just WAY better for claw grip. Better front to back slope than the capetown, and better weight distribution than the M1.
I LOVED the cm spawn way back! fits like a glove in my hand
I read this as "it fits my glove like a hand" at first LOL
i still use my spawn..... literally been the only mouse ive used for over 10 years. i NEED this mouse. but is it the same size as the spawn?? my hands are small
@@Ascendancy- i checked, and the mm720 is 105.42mm x 76.52 x 37.35, while the spawn/xornet shape is 107 x 75. x 35
@@donjenzuss3712 so basically the same!
id still use it if it didnt double click so often
just got mine, it's a dream come true (i've been using my little red spawn religiously for like 14 years) such an upgrade! but keeps the same comfortable shape that i am so accustomed to. i'm incredibly satisfied and in love
@David Gray i hope you like it. coming from the spawn or xornet it is incredible. still loving it. i need to buy like 5 lol. future proof myself
I cannot believe your Spawn held out for so long! I had two in about 5 years after which they were completely spent and I couldn't justify paying the extra-premium for the leftovers that were on eBay..... Love the Spawn, picking up this one
"competitive shape" is the most nonsense thing I've ever heard.
He means competitive for the market.
@@carterwiesner9960 no he meant that it isnt for competive fps players. I agree with duo. That statement is complete nonsence
@@jjolllyNot really. This mouse does have a competitive shape but not all do. Some are more for comfort versus good shape.
@@carterwiesner9960 just cause it is a different shape doesnt make it not competitive. Its about the players preference and what they are used to
@@jjollly Yeah buts it's not as competitive
Would love to see your reviews branch out some more. I liked the monitor review, maybe you could do keyboards or reviews of other things too? Like you said, mice are all basically about shape so there's not much to really go over unless there's something wrong with the mouse.
Seconded. Would love to see reviews of all peripherals; perhaps on a second channel? Monitors, mousepads, chairs, microphones, cameras, PC builds, etc.
This is amazing. I used to have the Spawn and loved it. I tried the G305 but it gave me so much pain, I had to sell it. I am using the GPW now, but if this came in a wireless version, I would buy 3 units straight away.
I think they are the same build so same? I tired the G203 and had really bad hand cramps but this mouse was sooo nice
xenics titan ge air is the wireless version:))
this is one of the best mice I've ever used and it has a permanent and special place in my collection of top mice
Just received my Model O-, It's amazing, perfect for my hand size. Thanks Zy.
I'm curious. Are there any mice that are more ergonomically structured for 3-2 grip (three fingers on top and thumb and pinky on the sides)?
Nice review. Would you please provide a little more detail on the main buttons? Is there significant pre or post travel? How would you asses general stiffness of the plastic used for the main buttons compared to the MM710/711? Thanks :)
Hallelujah, it's here!
I have my middle finger resting on the mouse wheel and my ring finger on the mouse 2 button when i am playing...would I still be able to use this mouse with that grip style or would it be uncomfortable and not suiting me?
Why look at different mice for fingertip? just because the thumb buttons are not far back enough? the length of this mouse is so short and it is so light and has a rest for the ring finger. Seems like a good finger tip grip mouse. My hands are 19.5 cm. I really don't like the razer viper i have for fingertip.
Really excited for this mouse
Very happy with my Viper Mini, thing is, idk if it's too small for me. It's my first gaming mouse. But at the same time idk if I would switch if it broke.
My friend had a mouse like that and I really enjoyed this comfortable shape.
Playing with mm710 atm and will surely give this a try. I play with fingertip/claw and have issues with nearly every mouse because i have really wide palm..
Will you be reviewing the G-Wolves HSK?
Did I do it? Clicking faster than RJN’s reaction time!
You did
Hell yeah
yes
What's your age? ;)
As other commenters said, you can only experience the uniqueness of this mouse, the form is one-of-a-kind, and if right for you, you would buy 2 pieces just to have a replacement if one breaks, somehow.
For me this is THE mouse, I have a pretty wide palm, not so long, but with shorter pinky fingers and with every single mouse my palm would cramp up after 1 hour of gaming, which was very much annoying and frustrating, couldn't focus on aiming that much
this mouse is just perfect if you have wider hands like me, the weight and its distribution is perfect, great features and performance, and for FPS use my aim even improved(!) with this magnificent piece of machinery
thank you, Cooler Master
It's the most comfortable mouse i've ever used. I just can't aim properly due to the uneven dimensions of the mouse, my x axis flicks are just too inconsistent. Most comfortable shape, the lightest mouse, the feet gives amazing precision. I will probably wait for the RVU superlight as i was spoiled by the mm720's featherlight weight and that would probably be my endgame.
FINALLY, thx for the cover zy.
i loved the spawn back then, but the sensor is too much to handle with a low tracing speed.
now they're bringing it back with 3398 which solves all of its problems.
I just got into quake and I use the razer mamba elite, for some reason I perform really poorly compared to other fast pace FPS games.
I'm thinking about getting the razer viper or the zowie S2, which one do you recommend?
Can you do a review on the Roccat Burst Pro?
Hey bro I am a big fan of you I watch every video and I like each of the minor specification you tell . My first question is if we have a bad computer with bad processor and no graphics card is there any benefit having good mouse??. 2nd question is that I want you to review cosmic byte Equinox beta wich would cost much less like less than 1500₹ INR like 20 dollars pls answer my questions bro
I picked this up about a week ago and I'm very impressed so far! Going from a heavy/draggy teflon footed Logitech G9X to this shape with a fingertip grip or relaxed claw is soooo comfortable! (19 x 11cm). Both mice are very similar in size and shape.
I really want the same sized mouse but wireless. 10.5 cm is the perfect length for the mouse.
I was a big fan of the Xornet... I'll have to give this a try sometime if it goes on sale
@Rocket Jump Ninja
Greetings! You have a lot of experience with mice, can you tell me which mouse can replace the Razer abyssys 2014, which will be the same size and shape, I have tried many mice and none of them fit and the Razer abyssys 2014 release has been removed from production.
I would argue that the actual grip width isn't the full width of the mouse, but the width to the finger rest.
Is there a mouse mod for silent left and right click switches? I tried the Pebble mouse (marketed as a silent mouse) from Logitech at an office supplies store and I loved the sound
Zy, could you do wierd mouse reviews, I would love to watch, like that fingertip only mouse that weights like 30g 😂 mutch love ❤️❤️❤️
can you disable acceleration via the software?
btw this is probably the most comfortable shape ever for claw/fingertip grippers.
ive had the spawn, xornet II (got rid of it because of built-in acceleration), and currently have the mm520.
Are you ever going to review g-wolves mice?
Hi. on mouse search can you add the option of selecting the max price?
Hi, just wondering if you had any recommendations on a new mouse. My hand size is about 7.5 inches long by 4 inches wide. I currently have a Roccat Kone XTD which I love but my left click switch is worn out. I am looking at the Roccat Kain or Kone pure ultra but idk if they will be too small. I use a palm/relaxed claw grip btw. Keep up the good reviews!
According to his 60% rule you should get a mouse with about 2.7'' grip width.
Is this the same shape as the original Cooler Master Spawn mouse from many years ago? I am a claw grip but this shape, for some reason, worked incredible for me .... but I do not do FPS so that probably helped. Seriously, I loved the shape almost as much as my original Logitech Wingman mouse.
I ordered this mouse but I hate the side grip. Is there something similar to this mouse but no side grip? Same size shape weight etc
I use a fingertip grip, 19x12cm hands, I really like this mouse, feels just fine to me grip wise. But I guess I do have wide palms.
I have 19x11cm hands which makes them also on the wider side. How has your experience been using this mouse since you commented? I use fingertip grip as well.
CM Spawn with holes in it. So is it just that or a cheaper rendition ?
what mice is like the final mouse classic ergo 2 im looking but i cant really find anny
Hey RJN do you have any recommendations for people with XXL hands? My middle finger is over 9cm and my palm is almost over 10cm wide.
I tried a Zowie S1 which I really like but eventually I'd get stiff hand and my aim would get much worse after around an hour of play.
Same situation for me. There are no "competitive" mice for us.
"If you use fingertip grip you should probably look at different mice" - are you kidding? This things was litterally made for fingertip grip and is the best fingertip grip mouse I've ever used
I used to use the CMSpawn for SC2/BW. It's great for that but it felt awkward for OW back in the day.
@Rocket Jump Ninja
could you try out the HK Gaming Mira S or Hati S? Both seem like they could be your top gaming mouse outside the UL2.
my hand is really thicc so ive been considering this mouse i sport a 17.5 x 10.5 hand size soo if annyone haas a similar proportions, how is wrist confort with rhis mouse?
How is the quality control on the clicks compared to the mm710/mm711? Like do they have the same post/pre travel and creaking issues?
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I think these are optical switches so should be top notch
Got the mouse yesterday, right click creaking...
@@Lychee7 oof, i was thinking about getting it but if the build is anything like my mm711 its gonna be almost unusable.
Best mouse I got out of the 50 I own. No question about it.
Dont @ me.
Imagine if it was wireless, then it would be game over.
xenics titan ge air :))
my hands are big is this suitable for fingertip style gaming?
Hell yee boy, when I get a little more flush I'll be picking one up. I was a weirdo with a mm520 for a minute. I'm on traditional shapes again but woetha shot!
I still have a CM Storm Spawn...but after many years of use, the scroll wheel started to give up on me, which is the only reason I am not still using it. I used the Logitech G5 from about 2007 to 2013, and the CM Storm Spawn from about around 2013 to 2018...and have been using a Corsair Katar from 2018 to present. I originally just picked up the Katar with plans to replace it with something better but just got used to it. I am definitely going to pick up the MM720 when I get some spare cash. I honestly wish I had just picked up a few CM Storm Spawn when they were only $30.
Thoughts on the Zowie ZA13-B? I have 19x10cm hands. I like the Zowie S2 due to the lower height/bump. I feel it would let me hold the mouse better in a claw grip?
ZA12-B would likely be better to look at. But both have a very high bump. If you want a low bump, look into the FK2-B
Can you review the razer viper ultimate mercury? They changed the mouse slightly, different mouse clicks and slightly heavier e.g
Ive been watching your videos all morning working out what mouse to buy now this... So many choices! Currently using the MM710 but I can't grip the sides well enough to be consistent with it. Mamba wireless seems to be in the lead right now.
That's a big jump ... you'd be better off with DeathAdder V2 Pro though if you can afford it, much newer than Mamba Wireless.
@@RocketJumpNinja Good tip, was only considering the Mamba due to the mouse finder recommendations.
I thought I had very small hands until I properly measured them today. 18.75cm x 10.5cm, 3 finger grip width is 5.4cm. Fingertip grip style. I like the MM710 but struggle to grip the sides comfortably, possibly due to the flair where the ring finger sits. Would a DeathAdder V2 Pro be too big? In the past i've used a G302 which I loved but the sensor rattle issue was a deal breaker.
Interesting... yeah I think DA is too big. You might be better off trying Razer Viper Mini if you are ok with the size of the MM710. Otherwise, for those measurements, I'd like to see you try the Endgame Gear XM1, after some use that might actually be perfect for you.
If that's no good, try the DeathAdder V2 MINI, that also could be a win for you. Or if you want something a little bigger, try the VAXEE ZYGEN NP-01 when it's more available.
The search on the site is just a starting point, but because your hand isn't twice as long as it is wide and you're already used to smaller mice like the MM710, we can lower your hand size to work with the 60% rule. That said, your 3 finger rule suggests your hand is actually closer to 9cm wide, maybe measured the wrong part to get 10.5? Anyway, I just did some searches, try these settings:
Length: 18
Width: 9.35
Search Leniency: Low
Grip Type: Fingertip
If you're happy with those mice after you try them, then you can continue to use those measurements when searching for mice in the future, until you want smaller or larger. If I were you, I'd find a mouse I like, learn the measurements, then just look at the Top Mice list to see which ones are similar.
@@RocketJumpNinja I redid my measurements a few times and got similar results each time. Decided to go with the XM1 for now, it seems like it suits wider hands and has decent shape on the sides for grip. Thanks for pointing me in that direction, one step closer to the "endgame" hopefully ;)
All good. This comment thread will get lost, but once you get the XM1, make a new comment somewhere and let me know what you think!
So is the green in the hand size chart means your hands is good?
is it the same size as the cm storm spawn??
Thanks for new review ;)
But Zy, i need your help!!
Im struggelig with QL cfg to look so vivid as your QL clips.
In and out of cfg, settings and console cmds.
Pls help :)
Have you made a video explaining why thin is good if you haven’t please do because I don’t understand why thin is better
Zy nice review! can you please and thank you review the Mountain Makalu 67 mouse?
Can you check out the G-Wolves HSK? It's different compared to most mice. Might fit fingertip
I was super excited for this mouse as I was a fan of the Spawn. A couple notes I bought the white gloss and I have discovered I do not like the way gloss feels. It is definitely different from the Spawn shape and still very comfortable. My issue with the spawn and why it got replaced by a DeathAdder was because of CoolerMaster firmware that would continue to increase your CPU usage every time you push caps lock which back then was my push to talk button. The song looked promising and I probably would have purchased the satin one, but during my first week of use I noticed a squeak but I don't remember if it was left click or right click. That's still one of my favorite shapes and I would have certainly enjoyed playing with it some more but I've always seemed to have an issue with CM mice unfortunately. I replaced it with a Viper mini and that seems to be perfectly fine quality but it's just not for me so I'm back on the hunt.
In the scale of 0-100% how much do you say this mice differs from Spawn? You see, I'm also a big fan of the original spawn. But back then I don't play any fps competitively only mobas and mmos. Then came overwatch and I kept hearing advice to use ambidextrous mice for FPS. So I switched to Logitech G102 back then, and now I used MM710. Now I have more confident in my aim and thinking to go back to my first gaming mice that I ever had.
@@BlackJackIs21 It's definitely different but familiar. I gave my Spawn away to a friend that was buying some weird Logitech $100+ mouse MX Master maybe so I never had them side by side. I was looking at the Razer Naga with the swappable sides just because I like the ring finger rest. Sorry I'm not more help, but I couldnt say anything definitely.
Any good mice with perfect side buttons? I hate mushy Ec1B side buttons.
Does anyone have problems with cooler master software with your mices? For example on my mm710 if you choose any profile on last tab (every profile have same settings) your mouse movements will be different with every profile. Also if you want to change DPI in software manually by moving sliders or just type the number - as a result you will also have different mouse movements with same DPI.
what's the game from the first few seconds of this video?
is that a chroma mouse bungee? its not released yet?
At the end this all comes down to what you get used to. When I bought the viper mini, I couldn't get used to it and my hand kept on cramping because it was alot thinner and smaller, comparing to my DeathAdder.. So I ended up just using the mini for work. At work I action alot of things, so lots of clicks.. took the mini back home after 4 months of using at work and played kovaks and I was destroying all my old scores.. so yeah it's adaptation.
its actually pretty crazy they made this mouse cause the main gripe i had with the mm710 is that my hand would cramp from placement due to the flap on the M2 button.
unfortunate this isnt a wireless version cause im stuck on my g pro wireless now
@Anonymous ive been holding off for the hope of the original company creating the wireless version of the mm720 that they teased on reddit years ago.
but will probably end up buying the xenics titan, although not a fan of the DPI button.
@Anonymous that makes sense i guess if its not feasible for them $$ wise. i should feel less bad and just buy the xerics. TY for the info & nudge!
I have this mouse with 20cm by 11.43 cm hands and it feels great! I use a relaxed claw grip with it. Fits like a glove. Can't palm it though as my finger tips would pass the 1 and 2 buttons.
Is it still comfortable, Have you tried any other mouse? Pls reply would help me out.
@@darklight7046 It is a very comfortable mouse but it started to hurt my wrist due to it's flatness. I went back to my G903. If they made it taller and maybe longer I would say it's perfect.
I use fingertip and I love this mouse! It's super good for fingertip! Also I do great in competitive shooter with this shape!
You'd probably do better if you eventually got used to an objectively more biomechanically conducive shape. Try a mouse at 60% of your hand width and as short as possible (because almost all mice are too long).
Actually, I have been through quite a few mice and even left my xornet for a couple years for Logitech g pro and definitely did worse with it, Although better with it then a lot of larger mice. Also, although not being the best I do tend to rank in the top 5-1% of players with my "biomechanically" odd choice. Just because something is better with something doesn't mean everyone will be. Also, I know quite a few people that have used the xornet and did very well or better. Maybe the thoughts people have on how all mice should be and how sensitivity should be low is based more on not trying everything/staying in their own comfort zone? Maybe you'd do better with this mouse? Have you tried? Like for over 100 hours game time?
@@ingwiafraujaz3126 also, to be fair, my hand is 17cmx11cm wide, which means this mouse isn't all that much bigger then the 60% everyone wants, being like 70%. And at 17cm I have pretty short hands making most mice significantly to long.
Thanks for your reply.. i've the same hand dimensions as yours and i was reluctant whether to get this mouse or not.. thanks for the encouragement @joshuabecker1695
Reminds me of my old Qpad mouse. Comfy as hell though, and it's not like I'm some sort of pro gamer anyways
Same grip width as g600, and that arguably is my most comfortable mouse outta 30 mouse i own.
What game is that at 0:02 ? Please let me know.
How would this suit a 1-3-1?
What is the principal thinner the better? Dont agree at all lol, too thin is just hand cramping
nostalgic shape. i had a CM spawn and probably because of its shape i have since forgotten where to put my ring finger when holding a mouse. though mm720 is more expensive than roccat burst core ,tough choices
Is it good for 1-3-1 grip?
which is matte or glossy?
You gonna review that new 32gram fingertip mouse?
very solid mouse by cm. love it
The debounce setting is a bit odd considering the MM720 has LK optical switches, just like the newer Razer mice. Perhaps they just reused software elements and forgot to remove the setting?
Yeah maybe ... and if that's the case, what's going on with the latency? I really struggled getting accurate results with it.
Sorry to necro this but to RJN's point; I've been testing a LOT of mice while adopting fingertip grip (as a lifelong claw/palm user, I am 35 and play Apex/OW) and I have for example both the mm720 and the o- wireless. I can tell within a second that aiming potential using fingertip with the o- wireless is higher than fingertip on the mm720. My results in-game reflect this. I am faster on the o- wireless both horizontally and vertically and more precise. The "pencil theory" holds up here I think. I've gone from DA Elite to Basilisk to Xtrfy M4 to Xlite v2 Mini and now to o- wireless. It's tough for my muscle memory and hand to get accustomed to ambi and small (with medium hands) but it does seem to be better for aiming potential for me personally. I can understand however that people do not want to give up comfort, as that is the most important thing for the majority of people.
I have the Superlight, Viper ult and Deathadder v3 but always go back to this mouse when Im in ranked
Review the Pwnage Ultra Custom? Wired and wireless versions?
did you make a new song? I haven't heard this one before. Also please, can you make all of your music available? I can only really find like 5 songs on your soundcloud. You definitely make amazing music that I can get behind.
Thanks! I made this song back in 2017 I think, just rarely use it. Can't release music unless it's got vocals so others can't actually claim they own them (music online is a minefield). But I'll do more with lyrics for Sound Cloud or something soon! Working on a few.
whats the game with the big yellow balls i need 2 know.
I was looking for a new mouse for some time now...
Couple of years back I had an accident and tore a ligament on my pinky. Ever since gaming for 2 or more hours straight was really tedious because my pinky started to hurt a lot.
I've used a G403 for some time now but the mouse wheel broke and it is time for a new mouse. Was hoping to get one that my pinky was finally comfortable with.
The shape of the MM720 is weird, yes, but perfect for me. I'm a palm gripper with fairly big hands (19cm long, 11 wide) and although the MM720 is rather short and now as high as other right-handed mice it feels immensly comfortable.
So I've been using this mouse the entire afternoon now, playing Apex with my friends. My pinky feels a bit stiff, but it doesn't hurt - the G403, which I've had some time now and the Glorious D, which I've tested for the last couple of days would have caused some pain, not the MM720.
And - this might be more due to luck :P but that afternoon I won 2 games of Apex ^^ and the other games went really well, too. Often coming in Top5 - has never happened before with another mouse :P
You guys really need to play a battle focused game that forces you to aim at your best, constantly, to know if these mice are actually better for your aim or not.
Quake Clan Arena 1v1 is the only game I've found that allows for that. The rest is ... as you say, could be luck or a whole heap of other things like no one good was on. I don't base my thoughts on "wins", I base them on how well I'm actually aiming in heated situations under constant pressure to perform in game.
That said, I'm glad you found a mouse you like. 👍
i feel like my ring finger rides the edge of living on the right click or right wall of the mouse, and I'm curious if this shape would be a good fit for me. does anyone know of any competitive options for this shape that might have wireless?
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Rain from fazeclan (cs go pro) is using a similar mouse. 😅
can u please review the Mountain makalu 67?
I need a mouse thats 36mm tall and 117-118mm wide. Sadly a mouse with these exact dimensions don't exist apparently.
Can you review next Machenike M610/M620 mice?