In micros do you go for performance or size? Is a sub 2:30flight time a deal breaker in your micro choices? Baby Nazgul 73MM availability is limited right now. iFlight Direct - bit.ly/2X7f9Xy AliExpress - bit.ly/3AhSUNv Available Soon Banggood - bit.ly/3z5s8WS Use Coupon "BGNickBurns" for 8% Off MakerFire - bit.ly/38XNomX Use Coupon "NickBurns" for 5% Off
Sub 3:00 isn't a deal breaker for me if it's just a really awesome form factor and I can bash it outside like the 63mm. But, I will say that after owning one, I'm still wanting to buy the moblite7 for long flight indoors (less bashing) and firefly nano baby for outdoors. I just try new tricks and fly over concrete with the baby naz so I know I'm not going to break it while learning new maneuvers or getting sketchy. They both have their place in my heart haha but you just cant beat the "bashability" of the baby nazgul frames. They're tanks! I definitely wouldn't have learned some of these tricks or gained the confidence to try some of these gaps if it wasnt for these insanely sturdy frames. Love them!
I don't know how many times I've seen you fly through your garden, but it's still a joy to watch! Clear explanation, everything important is discussed and with great enthusiasm!
I don't know if it's the quad, but your flying is getting even better. You are throwing in more flippy floppies, gaps, loops, and flowy stuff. I like it very much
I do think my I tend to do more flippy floppies when the quad isn't as outright fast. And as quads get better and my flight skills increase (slowly) I see opportunities to fix what might be a sloppy turn or something into a flip/roll transition.
I've bashed my baby nazgul probably more than the average person. I've beaten it to death and I've not had a single problem with those xing motors. The entire build has done amazing. I had a solder point on the Camera pop off but I just soldered it right back on with the same solder already on it and haven't had a single problem since then and I fly it daily and bounce it off a tree or the ground every other flight. Great builds!
I go for durability. I don't wreck much these days, but I want my craft to be able to survive a drop whenever it gets out of range and the failsafe kicks in. So far, the little guy I fly has survived several falls out of the sky without a hitch - including one that was at least 250 feet. I gotta upgrade my OG Jumper T8SG to get an extended range set-up. Also, I limit my flight time to 2:30 in order to have my batts recover at 3.8 volts in the hopes of extending the number of good cycles I can get on 'em before they start to sag. So far, so good with the 10 packs I'm juggling - haven't had a cell error during recharge in months, and the batts are holding up nicely. And you're spot-on regarding the lower kV-bigger props observation. I run 1.9" blades on both my flyers, but one has 1935 tri-blades on 7800 kV motors while the other is running trimmed-down 4-bladed 2045s on 7500 kV motors. The latter combo has way more response and authority.
I certainly go for micros more than my larger quads. Like you, I fly around my house mostly. If I have at least 3.5 minutes of flight time then that's enough. I have a light weight 3" that usually gives me 5-7 minutes which is bordering on too long for my attention span. Personally, I prefer the 40mm + size in 2s. It seems to give the best performance with flight time along with light weight for crash resilience. This is why my Baby Evo2, Elf88 and Shutterbug are my most flown quads. ETA: I mostly use the Flywoo whoop VTX which goes up to 450mw on all these micros. Very light and works well.
I would personally design and print some guards for this if I were to fly indoors. I love everything about this little drone! It's one of the most adorable little guys I've ever seen!
Wow this is really nice....and that camera is superb actually.... I haven't bought or looked at anything new in over 11 months.... I already going to buy this ...love it....thanks for the video
Love all of these micro choices! These baby Nazguls are especially cute. I’d imagine these are better than the toothpick configuration in tight spaces.
There is a pretty big difference in size of these verses a traditional 3inch toothpick. Much greater margin for error when flying around a playground or tight spaces...as you say.
Nice to have ya back! I found myself checking my notifications for a new upload...your vids have become part of my daily routine haha. Hope you had an excellent trip! And I was just thinking a couple days ago how I wished this was a 75mm build! I'm definitely buying this! I love my 65mm baby naz so I know I'll love this!
Great job here. I love the details and comparison with the other model. Your perspective provided by the ability to fly so many different quads really aids those who are looking for "The One Ring" quad. Thank you.
I laugh many times when I crash, If you don't you're a little bit too serious about this. Good review I ordered at 1S Firefly nano because of you....thanks!😁
Update: Just took a look at mine, In order to remove the TPU battery connector holder, u need to depin the connector as the TPU slides back up the pigtail towards the flight controller, Just make sure you re-pin it correctly.TPU weighs 0.4g and the jst weights between 0.01~0.02g; my scale doesnt seem to be that sensitive. And to push down props fully on these types i find the easiest way is to just twist them while pushing down (90 degrees always does it), that way there's really no force required
Ha ha ha ha,,, Oh my frig!!! My x would have left me years earlier if I would have flown that much and that fast in the house!🤣 I had a great laugh watching Your flight indoors! Rip On Nick! Rudy in NB Canada.👋
So I have both of these -- and I have to say, although I absolutely looove the tune on the iFlight Baby Nazgul 73mm, and the build/frame... the Flywoo Baby 1s 1.2 with the GNB27 connector wins. It was a pretty huge mistake on iFlight's part to not at least put a solid pin PH 2.0 connector. So the flight experience consistency falls off after about 2 minutes. This quad is starving for power, and I can just feel it. A swap to BT 2.0 or GNB27 would make a major difference. It is a shame about the 50mw VTX as well vs the flywoo but I could live with it.
@@NickBurnsFPV Talking 'bout size: Wasn't there almost twice as much Nick a year ago? You're looking sharp, man! 😎 And as always: Thank you so much for your reviews - Love your style!
Another informative video from the micro 🐐. I like the fact you get a option on size. I would like if they gave you a option for prop guards or not. I bought the 63mm version iflight came out with a few years ago that was a carbon fiber body with a bottom and top plate but had prop guards that screwed to the bottom plate and the motors screwed to the guards. I still have it as I say this but have yet to be able to get a complete flight out of it because the prop guards are made out of a hard plastic and has a little spike on each guard to land on. Well the issue I had was every time I would land hard it would break the guard rite where the screws hold the motor. I was also learning how to fly back when I originally bought the kit it and built it so I would take off an find myself going off the floor into the air and rite back down learning the feeling and just tapping the hardwood floor hard would break them. I’m liking these new one’s just wish they had a prop guard option. Also I wanted to mention to you that the holes you see on the top plate of the 73mm version you talked about “you liked how they put the antenna thru you also talked about possibly making it a top mount battery and running the antenna like they did on the 63mm” looks like them holes are actually for the TPU battery mount and since they went with mounting it on the bottom the one hole would be the perfect antenna holder. So in all reality it shouldn’t be to hard to make it a top mount quad. Anyways great video and happy flying!
Prop guards are a nice option, one 1s they need to be super light or it’s gonna kill the flight time. Today’s plastics are far better than those we had even a year ago. Iterations 😁
Lol I was going to say the same thing nick 2S!!!! 🤣 great rippin in the house I would have new ventilation holes if I flew in the house 😁 I am lovin the NB sculpture rotating inches background 👍
I LOVE SMALL F.P.V. QUADS. I LIVE TO FLY F.P.V.!!!! please God let me learn Acro...... Love your reviews and always enjoy your giveaways!!! Really like this tiny quad!!!!
Looks awesome and great advice with the props as usual. Makes allll the difference especially with bi blades I find. I tried the gemfam bi blade and I really really like it, it can handle 2S rpm and I'd suggest trying them. V3 frame, 14kv mptors either 0802 or 1102, caddx ant and LarvaX canopy biblades gemfams, really responsive and efficient build with a beautiful frame. It's strong as well very strong.
Great review as always!! Man that was quick! I gather that size increase was already in the works but I’m sure the feedback on the 63mm version validated the increase…the earlier one had just too short a wheelbase and thus kinda meh legs…and performance overall…so yeah this seems to be a great improvement and closer to the efficiency sweet-spot…totally concur on the 2S…I think all these micro (but NON WHOOP) models should be 1-2S…I’m rebuilding my Gnarly frames that way (Meemo etc)…
How is your video so clear inside your house? I've never flown in my house but I imagined there would be some break up when flying into other rooms or other floors. Very impressed (and jealous!). Great flying!
Do you really need a top plate on a quad this small? I can't imagine it needs the extra protection or rigidity. And it could use the weight savings. Would be cool to see a quad this small with HD, with a naked vista or something.
damn id want atleast 200mw .. no prop guards.. id rip it outside.. behind trees.. id want a lil more vtx. swap that for one of the nano vtx 350 to 500.. wish i could test fly before buying. but i think im leaning toward flywoo 1s baby. its quite a bit lighter. and 250mW vtx,., just got to see how the video looks back to back with iflight
That one definitely looks like a fun 1s and pretty good punch to it as well. Lots of inexpensive 1s fun with all these open prop offerings. Im a cheapo so I like them. Great review 👍👍
Interesting, maybe it’s just how I’m flying it, but I get propwash all over the place with this quad on stock tune. I didn’t see nearly as much in this video
After watching your reviews and Angry Don's review of the Flywoo Nano Baby, I think it might be fun to see the Nazgul with the Flyoo FC and ELRS. I like the frame concept on the Nazgul better, but seems like the board and VTX on the Flyoo might be nicer.
Hi Nick YEP I'm so glad I'm broke right now, I would have to purchase one or two. I just had my iflight turbobee esc give out, and it's discontinued. I love building my own, but I can't build them for this price. I would rather have the 73mm I think a larger prop would be better. Thanks again for the video and information.
Love the Design so far but with a "TOP plate" like this i would totally go 2s to get the max out of it and sit the Battery on top to get a good throttle feeling , and if i wanted to fly this thing 1s id swap motors for 11XX . But hey its just me and my personal opinion ! - #TKS ! Good Review Nick ! thanks for sharing it with us
@@NickBurnsFPV I never was able to figure out the problem with my 1102 9,000kv motors on my mobula7 just climbing at zero throttle. If I ordered some 1102's with a higher kv, wouldn't that make the problem worse since they'd be spinning faster? Some ppl tell me the motors are too big but I've seen multiple builds with 1102 10,000-16000kv and if they dont have that problem. I've tried lowering the pids to around 30-40, tried raising them to 80-90, I've lowered throttle boost all the way down, etc. And it just keeps doing it no matter what. What do you guys think?
@@brianfreland9065 the reason why your drone is climbing up at zero throttle is a high pids, specially because of D noise. more aggressive morors will make it even worse
@@xfOL. I've tried lowering pids and didnt have any luck. On 2s it climbs and on 1s it can barely stay off the ground. So, should I just lower D to zero and then slowly increase it from there?
@@brianfreland9065 It is very very likely the same motor on high kv the issue will get worse. 1102 is my favorite motor size on 2s whoops and super light 2inch quads. As it climbs does it rotate (yaw) uncontrollably?
Hi Nick i bought a Nazgul 73 mm with a D8 receiver but i cannot find how to bind this quad with my Taranis QX7 ACCST tx. Is there a bind button im missing? I really appreciate your help on this one. I think i used your banggood link to purchase it. Thanks Nic
Gday Nick, these are very cool little buggers i like the bigger one of the two where do you buy the 1s 720mah gnb battery's we cant get any gnb's at all here in Aus it really sux!! great video as always mate.👍🛸
Here in the US we can get them at many shops, pyrodrone newbeedrone etc. I am not sure why they are so hard to get in Aus, surely it must be a shipping restriction?
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes its shipping as banggood wont send any battery's and aliexpress will send them but its a 3 month wait so you more than likely wouldnt get them, sub250 fpv used to have heaps but since the covid hit they haven't had gnbs in well over 1 & 1/2 years so the long wait continues but still sux lol.👍🛸
What are the main components that are different between the 63mm vs 73mm, other than the bottom plate for the longer arms? Do they share the same top plate? Seems like camera mount and stand-offs are the same. Thanks!
Hey Nick! I am looking at getting back into multirotors after being out of the fpv scene for about 6 years. I live in a fairly urban area so I figured one of the 1s quads would be better due to noise and size. I was considering this one and the flywoo firefly1s. My flying style is pretty relaxed with getting a bit spirited here and there. Not a ton of acrobatics, as I don't have the skills. Which would be your first recommendation between the two? Or would you recommend another all together? I was planning on staying analog for now since I have most of the gear for it.
@@NickBurnsFPV awesome, thanks! Do you think the reduced range of the D8 receiver would be anything to worry about on this small of a quad vs the ELRS on the firefly?
@@sethpark777 the range is an issue for some. If you think you will want to fly very far, or behind large obstructions and elrs rx is far better. But also be sure your radio can bind to d8. Newer frsky radios do not have the ability to bind in d8, frsky firmware update about a year ago killed d8. If you have a mulitmodule based radio you will be fine. i can circle my house (outside) on d8 aio receivers.
We could mount on top. We have to relocate both antenna, much like they did on the 63mm version, then use small straps or rubber bands. Maybe some thin battery mat might be good to, but not much as its little and more weight is not going to help performance or flight time :)
i am a beginner and this is my second kwad ^^ i like the baby naz (63mm)more than the tbs nano whoop, although the baby naz doesnt get that much range it seems (vtx wise) already swapped the vtx antenna for a little lollipop omni but still just little over 20 meters in front of me and like 5 meters altitude :s But wow 2s sounds way more fun ,hope we can just swap the boards XD
I saw that the 73mm has bottom mounted battery holder 😏 so i made a bottomholder for the 63mm. Still a bit in progress and have to fly with the prototype
Great review! just to clarify, between the 63mm and the 73mm which one do you recommand? and with which batteries?( I would like to learn freestyle in outdoor and a little bit of fun in indoor)
Hi Nick. Great review! My 73mm nazgul has crossfire, which I am using. The quad also came with the SPI antenna attached. Can I remove the SPI antenna without damaging anything? Not sure why they shipped it with both antennas. Thanks Nick! Have a great weekend!
I wouldn’t remove it unless there is a pad/jumper to disable the internal receiver. My concern is if the internal Rx continues to be powered without the antenna the heat could damage another component. Not all of these boards have the ability to disable the internal receiver. Happymodel started putting a solder jumper to disconnect the internal vtx. I could be worried about nothing, I have not run an AIO without the antennas and not damage anything 🤷🏻♂️
How well do you think it would perform if I purchased the 73mm frame and bi-blade 40mm props and just swapped the guts and motors from the 63mm to the new and bigger frame? Essentially I'm asking if you think the 0802 22,000kv motors would still perform well on this 73mm frame with the new props
@@NickBurnsFPV sweet! Maybe I'll just buy the frame, props, and motors then! Then I'll have this build for less money haha. Same build for around 50-60 bucks! I'm pretty excited that they made the larger frame for this! I was just telling my gf the other day that I really wish it could fit 40mm props on it. "Ask and you shall receive"! Lolol
@@NickBurnsFPV Which would you say has a better camera? Also is there any other drones in this size or maybe a little larger that you'd recommend? Btw I just found your channel a couple days ago and I love the content. Keep it up!
@@bread12678 I think the image is better with the runcam atom in the baby nazgul. The flywoo nano has the runcam nano 3 with v2 or v3 lens, which has a softer image but a wider fov. I like a super wide fov as it makes it feel like we going faster :) But still the atom camera is likely largely considered better.
Not sure I understand the question.... On similar sized motors of this size 40mm props are more efficient and provide more thrust than 31mm or 35mm props.
@@nerassurdo If we compare outside only, its somewhat close. The mobula 7 1s is likely to have longer flights, but be more troublesome to fly in wind. The mobula 7 also has a much stronger vtx, so I goggle connection should be better with a cleaner image.
@@manwithgutz sure?? My rates are pitch and roll 1.2 super of .75, yaw is 1.30 and super .8. I arm with the lower right switch, flight mode select with the next switch up, turtle and beeper on the top left switch....on the jumper t-lite.
@@NickBurnsFPV You must have strong fingers haha! I literally pulled the shaft right out and still couldn’t get the prop off. These gemfan boys are tough.
I love these frames. I've absolutely bashed my 63mm to death and it's still the only quad I have thats all original parts. I've re-soldered a cam wire 1 time but other than that I've never had any issues. And the 63mm is the best flying micro I've ever flown. Idk if that's because of the top mount batt or just the combo of specs but I'm in love with the 63mm. Im really hoping the 73mm flies similarly. After flying my other whoops and micros I'm always just gobsmacked when I pull my baby nazgul back out. So responsive, nimble, accurate, and I can just shred it so much harder than even my 75mm moblite custom
I always go for performance... But, high performance in the smallest size is the way to go! 2:30 flight time is fine because I know going with a bigger battery effects performance negatively. Newbies who think it has to have 5+ minutes flight time are just that... Newbies... And haven't learned that in FPV we go for performance and Rippin'! If you want long flight time, go buy a Mavic! In FPV, all we do is buy more batteries, rip it again, change batteries, and rip it some more! Flight time is one of THE MOST overrated factors in flying quads! Buy more batteries! 👍🥴 And YES! I wouldn't buy any of these 3 because a 2s version of all of these will RIP EVEN HARDER! MUCH HARDER!!! Waiting iFlight & Flywoo....😎🤘
And buy more chargers, too! To charge 'em while flying :) I use two chargers while I'm in the air: one to bring each flown battery up to 3.7v, the other to parallel charge 6+ batts (as they are all at the same storage voltage now)
@@scu-dub oh that's fairly unique. I presume in the indoor space would be large and not a home as without prop protection the smallest of quads have the potential to damage items in a traditional home.
Hi Nick hope your well, I've got the 63mm but flight time is quite bad 1.45 on 1s 300mah, or 2.30 on 1s 450mah. I'm a noob n learning but would you be able to to a bigger mah battery. I have some new 520mah? Also my camera broke n stopped working I no longer a signal in my skyzone goggles. Banggood got in touch within hours saying they will send a new runcam atom. C if that works otherwise I'm stuck an it will just be another bnf I can't fly. Thanks.
If you get osd but no image, that is a broken camera. If there is not osd or image then that is a broken vtx. We can try bigger batteries but there is a weight at which the flight time starts to go down.
@@NickBurnsFPV so the osd should still work in the goggles if camera busted. Thanks I didn't know that I better check as banggood already sending a new runcam atom.
I haven't got any picture and can't find a signal in 2 pairs of goggles. So can't see if it's the vtx or camera. I'll know once the camera arrives otherwise a new vtx too. Gutted I've only had it a few days I'm dying to rip it properly in the goggles line of sight gets boring lol. Thanks for getting back to me bro. Love your channel and your flying.
Is there a default Betaflight dump anyone could point me to? Just got the nano 73 and none of the Betaflight setting were configured including calibration, modes, motor configuration, etc. Have mostly got it setup now but I think the pids aren’t right either. Motors now turn on, drone does a baby hop / spin and turns off immediately.
Here is the diff from mine. # version # Betaflight / IFLIGHTF411RX (IFRCF4RX) 4.2.8 Jun 12 2021 / 10:10:32 () MSP API: 1.43 # start the command batch batch start board_name IFLIGHTF411RX manufacturer_id IFRC # name: Baby Nazgul 73 # feature feature -TELEMETRY # beacon beacon RX_LOST beacon RX_SET # serial serial 0 2048 115200 57600 0 115200 serial 1 64 115200 57600 0 115200 # aux aux 0 0 0 1700 2100 0 0 aux 1 1 1 900 1175 0 0 aux 2 13 2 1300 1700 0 0 aux 3 35 2 1700 2100 0 0 # vtxtable vtxtable bands 5 vtxtable channels 8 vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A FACTORY 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725 vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B FACTORY 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866 vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E FACTORY 5705 5685 5665 0 5885 5905 0 0 vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F FACTORY 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880 vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R FACTORY 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917 vtxtable powerlevels 2 vtxtable powervalues 0 1 vtxtable powerlabels 25 50 # master set dyn_notch_width_percent = 0 set dyn_notch_q = 250 set dyn_notch_min_hz = 200 set dyn_notch_max_hz = 800 set acc_calibration = -62,40,191,1 set baro_hardware = NONE set min_check = 1000 set max_check = 2000 set serialrx_provider = SBUS set rx_spi_protocol = FRSKY_D set blackbox_p_ratio = 0 set blackbox_device = NONE set dshot_idle_value = 1000 set dshot_bidir = ON set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT300 set motor_poles = 12 set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 437 set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 310 set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 330 set ibata_scale = 400 set yaw_motors_reversed = ON set small_angle = 180 set thrust_linear = 30 set osd_rssi_pos = 2074 set osd_link_quality_pos = 311 set osd_rssi_dbm_pos = 299 set osd_tim_2_pos = 2455 set osd_flymode_pos = 2425 set osd_throttle_pos = 2049 set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 2100 set osd_current_pos = 2440 set osd_mah_drawn_pos = 2448 set osd_craft_name_pos = 2056 set osd_warnings_pos = 14634 set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 2433 set osd_disarmed_pos = 2283 set vtx_band = 5 set vtx_channel = 8 set vtx_power = 2 set vtx_freq = 5917 set frsky_spi_tx_id = 162,218 set frsky_spi_offset = -58 set frsky_spi_bind_hop_data = 0,30,60,91,120,150,180,210,5,35,65,95,125,155,185,215,10,40,70,100,130,160,190,221,15,45,75,105,135,165,195,225,20,50,80,110,140,170,200,230,25,55,85,115,145,175,205,0,0,0 set name = Baby Nazgul 73 profile 0 # profile 0 set dyn_lpf_dterm_min_hz = 91 set dyn_lpf_dterm_max_hz = 221 set dterm_lowpass2_hz = 195 set anti_gravity_gain = 4000 set feedforward_transition = 20 set iterm_relax_cutoff = 10 set yaw_lowpass_hz = 100 set throttle_boost = 15 set p_pitch = 94 set i_pitch = 108 set d_pitch = 65 set f_pitch = 137 set p_roll = 85 set i_roll = 102 set d_roll = 60 set f_roll = 130 set p_yaw = 70 set i_yaw = 108 set f_yaw = 130 set d_min_roll = 42 set d_min_pitch = 46 set d_min_boost_gain = 40 set d_min_advance = 30 rateprofile 0 # rateprofile 0 set thr_mid = 100 set thr_expo = 55 set roll_rc_rate = 120 set pitch_rc_rate = 120 set yaw_rc_rate = 130 set roll_srate = 75 set pitch_srate = 75 set yaw_srate = 80 set tpa_rate = 60
@@NickBurnsFPV perfect! My original diff only had a few lines. Drone works beautifully now! The dump was also missing from iflights google drive. After I reached out to them they added the files to their drive. Happy flying and thanks for the awesome reviews!
@@jasonbaker7006 Great. Thanks for letting me know, appreciate that. yes, I don't know why their repository takes time after the product launch or someone has to ask for it to trigger them to post it.
@@NickBurnsFPV ones the bottom plate becomes available I will give that try with the 22000kv motors. I have 25000kv mobula6 on a 75mm frame and that works perfectly fine
I do on occassion. I don't think it has made it into any videos :( Generally the quad gets spun around as I go down the slide and it gets sloppy trying to get off the slide and fly on. Ends up not being all that fun to me.
So, I imagine the 73mm baby nazgul is probably more robust and stronger but the firefly nano baby has a longer flight time while ripping because of the softer and lighter frame. I'm excited about both of them and the upgrade in flight time is awesome! Cant wait to own all 3 rather than just the 63mm baby nazgul
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In micros do you go for performance or size? Is a sub 2:30flight time a deal breaker in your micro choices?
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Less than 3 minutes definitely is a dealbreaker for me
Sub 3:00 isn't a deal breaker for me if it's just a really awesome form factor and I can bash it outside like the 63mm. But, I will say that after owning one, I'm still wanting to buy the moblite7 for long flight indoors (less bashing) and firefly nano baby for outdoors. I just try new tricks and fly over concrete with the baby naz so I know I'm not going to break it while learning new maneuvers or getting sketchy. They both have their place in my heart haha but you just cant beat the "bashability" of the baby nazgul frames. They're tanks! I definitely wouldn't have learned some of these tricks or gained the confidence to try some of these gaps if it wasnt for these insanely sturdy frames. Love them!
Awesome little drone. Thank you! Subscribed.
I don't know how many times I've seen you fly through your garden, but it's still a joy to watch! Clear explanation, everything important is discussed and with great enthusiasm!
I don't know if it's the quad, but your flying is getting even better. You are throwing in more flippy floppies, gaps, loops, and flowy stuff. I like it very much
I do think my I tend to do more flippy floppies when the quad isn't as outright fast. And as quads get better and my flight skills increase (slowly) I see opportunities to fix what might be a sloppy turn or something into a flip/roll transition.
I've bashed my baby nazgul probably more than the average person. I've beaten it to death and I've not had a single problem with those xing motors. The entire build has done amazing. I had a solder point on the Camera pop off but I just soldered it right back on with the same solder already on it and haven't had a single problem since then and I fly it daily and bounce it off a tree or the ground every other flight. Great builds!
Great review! Yes we definitely need a 2s with a vtx of at least 200mw. And the right kV for some freestyle...
I go for durability. I don't wreck much these days, but I want my craft to be able to survive a drop whenever it gets out of range and the failsafe kicks in. So far, the little guy I fly has survived several falls out of the sky without a hitch - including one that was at least 250 feet. I gotta upgrade my OG Jumper T8SG to get an extended range set-up. Also, I limit my flight time to 2:30 in order to have my batts recover at 3.8 volts in the hopes of extending the number of good cycles I can get on 'em before they start to sag. So far, so good with the 10 packs I'm juggling - haven't had a cell error during recharge in months, and the batts are holding up nicely. And you're spot-on regarding the lower kV-bigger props observation. I run 1.9" blades on both my flyers, but one has 1935 tri-blades on 7800 kV motors while the other is running trimmed-down 4-bladed 2045s on 7500 kV motors. The latter combo has way more response and authority.
I certainly go for micros more than my larger quads. Like you, I fly around my house mostly. If I have at least 3.5 minutes of flight time then that's enough. I have a light weight 3" that usually gives me 5-7 minutes which is bordering on too long for my attention span.
Personally, I prefer the 40mm + size in 2s. It seems to give the best performance with flight time along with light weight for crash resilience. This is why my Baby Evo2, Elf88 and Shutterbug are my most flown quads.
ETA: I mostly use the Flywoo whoop VTX which goes up to 450mw on all these micros. Very light and works well.
I would personally design and print some guards for this if I were to fly indoors. I love everything about this little drone! It's one of the most adorable little guys I've ever seen!
We could probably clip the prop protection off a 75mm whoop and screw it onto the bottom of each motor. Could be less time and less weight.
Yeah, wish i had one of those.
Wow this is really nice....and that camera is superb actually.... I haven't bought or looked at anything new in over 11 months.... I already going to buy this ...love it....thanks for the video
Love all of these micro choices! These baby Nazguls are especially cute. I’d imagine these are better than the toothpick configuration in tight spaces.
There is a pretty big difference in size of these verses a traditional 3inch toothpick. Much greater margin for error when flying around a playground or tight spaces...as you say.
Wow, that thing looks LOCKED in!! Camera looks good too :)
Thanks, Nick! And nice flying, as always :)
Nice to have ya back! I found myself checking my notifications for a new upload...your vids have become part of my daily routine haha. Hope you had an excellent trip! And I was just thinking a couple days ago how I wished this was a 75mm build! I'm definitely buying this! I love my 65mm baby naz so I know I'll love this!
trip was good. Nice to get away and spend time just hanging together.
@@NickBurnsFPV absolutely! Glad you guys were able to get some quality time together. One of the most important and fulfilling things in this world!
Great job here. I love the details and comparison with the other model. Your perspective provided by the ability to fly so many different quads really aids those who are looking for "The One Ring" quad. Thank you.
Amazing flying, Nick!!! 😃
Pretty impressive little quad! It flies great!
Fantastic review, as always!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
It looks floatier than this size usually does, I really like the footage from it. Surprising amount of authority on those props :)
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I laugh many times when I crash, If you don't you're a little bit too serious about this. Good review I ordered at 1S Firefly nano because of you....thanks!😁
Certainly 2S version is needed.. I see massive difference in how the Mobula 7 flies in 1s vs 2s... Lot less battery sag in 2s and more punch😊
Update: Just took a look at mine, In order to remove the TPU battery connector holder, u need to depin the connector as the TPU slides back up the pigtail towards the flight controller, Just make sure you re-pin it correctly.TPU weighs 0.4g and the jst weights between 0.01~0.02g; my scale doesnt seem to be that sensitive. And to push down props fully on these types i find the easiest way is to just twist them while pushing down (90 degrees always does it), that way there's really no force required
Ha ha ha ha,,, Oh my frig!!! My x would have left me years earlier if I would have flown that much and that fast in the house!🤣 I had a great laugh watching Your flight indoors! Rip On Nick! Rudy in NB Canada.👋
would be nice if they made lower degree camera mounts for both size versions. Maybe RDQ will make them.
we can likely reduce with a soldering iron and strategic melting of the printed mount. But a secondary mount would be nice to have included.
2S would be great. Great review as always. Cheers
Mr. Nick DUDE YOU RIP every time I play your reviews, U sir U RIP awesome flying.
Indeed it's tough on the pocket books sometimes haha, great video Nick Burns.
I ordered the Flywoo. Might have to pick this up as well
So I have both of these -- and I have to say, although I absolutely looove the tune on the iFlight Baby Nazgul 73mm, and the build/frame... the Flywoo Baby 1s 1.2 with the GNB27 connector wins. It was a pretty huge mistake on iFlight's part to not at least put a solid pin PH 2.0 connector. So the flight experience consistency falls off after about 2 minutes. This quad is starving for power, and I can just feel it. A swap to BT 2.0 or GNB27 would make a major difference. It is a shame about the 50mw VTX as well vs the flywoo but I could live with it.
@20:22 that's not what she said.
lol.
@@NickBurnsFPV Talking 'bout size: Wasn't there almost twice as much Nick a year ago? You're looking sharp, man! 😎
And as always: Thank you so much for your reviews - Love your style!
@@captainsumtingwong lol, yea maybe not twice as much but certainly a substantial amount more :) Thank you
Nice review! I'll try R8 per your suggestion, thanks for that too
Another informative video from the micro 🐐. I like the fact you get a option on size. I would like if they gave you a option for prop guards or not. I bought the 63mm version iflight came out with a few years ago that was a carbon fiber body with a bottom and top plate but had prop guards that screwed to the bottom plate and the motors screwed to the guards. I still have it as I say this but have yet to be able to get a complete flight out of it because the prop guards are made out of a hard plastic and has a little spike on each guard to land on. Well the issue I had was every time I would land hard it would break the guard rite where the screws hold the motor. I was also learning how to fly back when I originally bought the kit it and built it so I would take off an find myself going off the floor into the air and rite back down learning the feeling and just tapping the hardwood floor hard would break them. I’m liking these new one’s just wish they had a prop guard option. Also I wanted to mention to you that the holes you see on the top plate of the 73mm version you talked about “you liked how they put the antenna thru you also talked about possibly making it a top mount battery and running the antenna like they did on the 63mm” looks like them holes are actually for the TPU battery mount and since they went with mounting it on the bottom the one hole would be the perfect antenna holder. So in all reality it shouldn’t be to hard to make it a top mount quad. Anyways great video and happy flying!
Prop guards are a nice option, one 1s they need to be super light or it’s gonna kill the flight time. Today’s plastics are far better than those we had even a year ago. Iterations 😁
Lol I was going to say the same thing nick 2S!!!! 🤣 great rippin in the house I would have new ventilation holes if I flew in the house 😁 I am lovin the NB sculpture rotating inches background 👍
I keep working on getting some 2s traction on these lil guys.
@@NickBurnsFPVkeep at it nick 👍
@@scu-dub Oh I will, we need a 2s comeback. There is so much to explore in the 2s micro arena!!
@@NickBurnsFPV Definitely Nick! And please push for BT2 or xt30 lol those rolled ph2s should just be discontinued lol😁✌
I LOVE SMALL F.P.V. QUADS. I LIVE TO FLY F.P.V.!!!! please God let me learn Acro...... Love your reviews and always enjoy your giveaways!!! Really like this tiny quad!!!!
Thank you Nick 🤝👍
More S more fun!!
Looks awesome and great advice with the props as usual. Makes allll the difference especially with bi blades I find. I tried the gemfam bi blade and I really really like it, it can handle 2S rpm and I'd suggest trying them. V3 frame, 14kv mptors either 0802 or 1102, caddx ant and LarvaX canopy biblades gemfams, really responsive and efficient build with a beautiful frame. It's strong as well very strong.
Great review as always!! Man that was quick! I gather that size increase was already in the works but I’m sure the feedback on the 63mm version validated the increase…the earlier one had just too short a wheelbase and thus kinda meh legs…and performance overall…so yeah this seems to be a great improvement and closer to the efficiency sweet-spot…totally concur on the 2S…I think all these micro (but NON WHOOP) models should be 1-2S…I’m rebuilding my Gnarly frames that way (Meemo etc)…
I can't believe you didn't fly this in your car! Gear shift selector orbits?? Looks like it would fit..
How is your video so clear inside your house? I've never flown in my house but I imagined there would be some break up when flying into other rooms or other floors. Very impressed (and jealous!). Great flying!
I fly raceband 8 which is above wifi frequency, and I have found sitting at the a the table gets me the best reception.
@@NickBurnsFPV I've been flying the same channel for years (5752) but have been seeing some interference recently so I'll give that a try!
@@ghall05 yea, won't hurt to try a different channel.
Do you really need a top plate on a quad this small? I can't imagine it needs the extra protection or rigidity. And it could use the weight savings.
Would be cool to see a quad this small with HD, with a naked vista or something.
Top plate could be removed, likely need a canopy to mount camera and protect the aio.
the top plate in CF is obscenely light as well...i know every little bit counts but i think it's less than a gram (i could be wrong)
Great review again Nick thanks. Yes a 2s and more power from the vtx would be perfect. It’s almost there. Lol.
damn id want atleast 200mw .. no prop guards.. id rip it outside.. behind trees.. id want a lil more vtx. swap that for one of the nano vtx 350 to 500.. wish i could test fly before buying. but i think im leaning toward flywoo 1s baby. its quite a bit lighter. and 250mW vtx,., just got to see how the video looks back to back with iflight
That one definitely looks like a fun 1s and pretty good punch to it as well. Lots of inexpensive 1s fun with all these open prop offerings. Im a cheapo so I like them.
Great review 👍👍
Interesting, maybe it’s just how I’m flying it, but I get propwash all over the place with this quad on stock tune. I didn’t see nearly as much in this video
Wow crazy how 1s micro quads have come on from a few years ago
indeed. I wonder what the current limits are
After watching your reviews and Angry Don's review of the Flywoo Nano Baby, I think it might be fun to see the Nazgul with the Flyoo FC and ELRS. I like the frame concept on the Nazgul better, but seems like the board and VTX on the Flyoo might be nicer.
The flywoo aio does have a more powerful vtx which is likely the #1 complaint on the baby nazgul.
great flyn like always
Amazing fly
Hi Nick YEP I'm so glad I'm broke right now, I would have to purchase one or two. I just had my iflight turbobee esc give out, and it's discontinued. I love building my own, but I can't build them for this price. I would rather have the 73mm I think a larger prop would be better. Thanks again for the video and information.
Nice review!
how mW vtx yo set this flight 7:01 ?
mw on vtx is set to max on all flights, on this one its 50mw.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank @Nick
Love the Design so far but with a "TOP plate" like this i would totally go 2s to get the max out of it and sit the Battery on top to get a good throttle feeling , and if i wanted to fly this thing 1s id swap motors for 11XX . But hey its just me and my personal opinion ! - #TKS ! Good Review Nick ! thanks for sharing it with us
We do need to see more motor manufacturers with 100x and 110x motors for sure.
@@NickBurnsFPV I never was able to figure out the problem with my 1102 9,000kv motors on my mobula7 just climbing at zero throttle. If I ordered some 1102's with a higher kv, wouldn't that make the problem worse since they'd be spinning faster? Some ppl tell me the motors are too big but I've seen multiple builds with 1102 10,000-16000kv and if they dont have that problem. I've tried lowering the pids to around 30-40, tried raising them to 80-90, I've lowered throttle boost all the way down, etc. And it just keeps doing it no matter what. What do you guys think?
@@brianfreland9065 the reason why your drone is climbing up at zero throttle is a high pids, specially because of D noise. more aggressive morors will make it even worse
@@xfOL. I've tried lowering pids and didnt have any luck. On 2s it climbs and on 1s it can barely stay off the ground. So, should I just lower D to zero and then slowly increase it from there?
@@brianfreland9065 It is very very likely the same motor on high kv the issue will get worse. 1102 is my favorite motor size on 2s whoops and super light 2inch quads. As it climbs does it rotate (yaw) uncontrollably?
Interesting, good review Nick.
I think the 63mm actually uses 35 mm gemfan props
Yes, sorry my mistake.
Really want this ELRS version but cannot find it ANYWHERE... Gimme yours nick ;)
How do these differ in acoustics? The bi-blade props are purportedly quieter on larger quads.
I thought it was the opposite. bi blades emit more noise. More blades less blade to blade disturbance.
@@NickBurnsFPV and lower RPM for the same thrust!
Interesting. I may have been thinking of tip turbulence noise. And given fewer tips…
Nick since the Nazgul has D8 frsky connectivity does this mean i dont need a new frsky xm+ or do i need to buy 1??
Hi Nick i bought a Nazgul 73 mm with a D8 receiver but i cannot find how to bind this quad with my Taranis QX7 ACCST tx. Is there a bind button im missing? I really appreciate your help on this one. I think i used your banggood link to purchase it. Thanks Nic
1s Gnb what is the mah i missed that. I am buying this quad thru your link so i need this info to be correct. Thnx
Gday Nick, these are very cool little buggers i like the bigger one of the two where do you buy the 1s 720mah gnb battery's we cant get any gnb's at all here in Aus it really sux!! great video as always mate.👍🛸
Here in the US we can get them at many shops, pyrodrone newbeedrone etc. I am not sure why they are so hard to get in Aus, surely it must be a shipping restriction?
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes its shipping as banggood wont send any battery's and aliexpress will send them but its a 3 month wait so you more than likely wouldnt get them, sub250 fpv used to have heaps but since the covid hit they haven't had gnbs in well over 1 & 1/2 years so the long wait continues but still sux lol.👍🛸
Maybe I ruined my batteries quick or these newer nanos are super efficient. I wasn't getting flight time like this on 520mah in the house.
It could be both, hard to tell from here :)
Is this ready to run out of the box? If not, what other gear would be needed to get started with this little dude?
We need a radio, and goggles, and batteries.
What Motor wire tape are you using ?
Hey Nick where do you recommend i buy this Nazgul 73 so i can get the best possible price?
I can't say, do a google search for it and see what the shopping section shows.
@@NickBurnsFPV ok thnx Nick!!
What are the main components that are different between the 63mm vs 73mm, other than the bottom plate for the longer arms? Do they share the same top plate? Seems like camera mount and stand-offs are the same. Thanks!
Frame, motors and props are all different.
Hey Nick! I am looking at getting back into multirotors after being out of the fpv scene for about 6 years. I live in a fairly urban area so I figured one of the 1s quads would be better due to noise and size. I was considering this one and the flywoo firefly1s. My flying style is pretty relaxed with getting a bit spirited here and there. Not a ton of acrobatics, as I don't have the skills.
Which would be your first recommendation between the two? Or would you recommend another all together? I was planning on staying analog for now since I have most of the gear for it.
The 73mm Nazgûl has more performance than the nano baby. It’s what I think would be more fitting. Unless flight time is the most important
@@NickBurnsFPV awesome, thanks! Do you think the reduced range of the D8 receiver would be anything to worry about on this small of a quad vs the ELRS on the firefly?
@@sethpark777 the range is an issue for some. If you think you will want to fly very far, or behind large obstructions and elrs rx is far better. But also be sure your radio can bind to d8. Newer frsky radios do not have the ability to bind in d8, frsky firmware update about a year ago killed d8. If you have a mulitmodule based radio you will be fine. i can circle my house (outside) on d8 aio receivers.
Make it 2s and take my money!
Hey there Nick, Do you think we could modify it a bit to mount the battery on top? Or is this one really meant for the bottom? Thanks!
We could mount on top. We have to relocate both antenna, much like they did on the 63mm version, then use small straps or rubber bands. Maybe some thin battery mat might be good to, but not much as its little and more weight is not going to help performance or flight time :)
@@NickBurnsFPV sounds good. I may keep it stock honestly. Thanks Nick
Would you choose this or the new flywoo baby firefly FR
Probably the firefly fr.
i am a beginner and this is my second kwad ^^ i like the baby naz (63mm)more than the tbs nano whoop, although the baby naz doesnt get that much range it seems (vtx wise) already swapped the vtx antenna for a little lollipop omni but still just little over 20 meters in front of me and like 5 meters altitude :s
But wow 2s sounds way more fun ,hope we can just swap the boards XD
I suspect the kv of the motors is to high for 2s :(
@@NickBurnsFPV 🤣 also motor swap then ;)
I saw that the 73mm has bottom mounted battery holder 😏 so i made a bottomholder for the 63mm. Still a bit in progress and have to fly with the prototype
Great review!
just to clarify, between the 63mm and the 73mm which one do you recommand? and with which batteries?( I would like to learn freestyle in outdoor and a little bit of fun in indoor)
I would go 73mm with nitro nectar gold batteries
Have you made any upgrades or modifications to your radio? Or is it just as it came out of the box?
only changes are those needed to have the switches set for aux channels and the radio protocol used for binding to this type of receiver.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks!
Hi Nick. Great review! My 73mm nazgul has crossfire, which I am using. The quad also came with the SPI antenna attached. Can I remove the SPI antenna without damaging anything? Not sure why they shipped it with both antennas. Thanks Nick! Have a great weekend!
I wouldn’t remove it unless there is a pad/jumper to disable the internal receiver. My concern is if the internal Rx continues to be powered without the antenna the heat could damage another component. Not all of these boards have the ability to disable the internal receiver. Happymodel started putting a solder jumper to disconnect the internal vtx.
I could be worried about nothing, I have not run an AIO without the antennas and not damage anything 🤷🏻♂️
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the quick reply and help. Makes perfect sense. I think I will leave it on. No sense possibly destroying a new quad.
@@MrIndyjonescj I would as well. The weight can't be more than say .25gram
Or, emax nano, remove propguards add 40mm props?
the nanohawk?
Hey man can you see if the baby nazgul will bind with the cetus pro remote and googles and fly with them cause I want this drone
The cetus pro remote is essentially the betafpv lite 2 radio which does bind with d8 receivers such as those in the baby nazgul.
When you gonna get that diatone bck out and wake up the neighborhood ? Lol
@@Editer38738 lol, not to likely. I have kept the peace so far.
How well do you think it would perform if I purchased the 73mm frame and bi-blade 40mm props and just swapped the guts and motors from the 63mm to the new and bigger frame? Essentially I'm asking if you think the 0802 22,000kv motors would still perform well on this 73mm frame with the new props
They will still perform well, the extra kv will have an impact on the low throttle response and the flight time will decrease some from the 17000kv.
@@NickBurnsFPV sweet! Maybe I'll just buy the frame, props, and motors then! Then I'll have this build for less money haha. Same build for around 50-60 bucks! I'm pretty excited that they made the larger frame for this! I was just telling my gf the other day that I really wish it could fit 40mm props on it. "Ask and you shall receive"! Lolol
This or the fly woo nano baby? I currently have a mobula 7 and I love the carbon designs.
This is quad has more performance, but a weaker vtx. Those are the primary differences we have to weigh.
@@NickBurnsFPV Which would you say has a better camera? Also is there any other drones in this size or maybe a little larger that you'd recommend? Btw I just found your channel a couple days ago and I love the content. Keep it up!
@@bread12678 I think the image is better with the runcam atom in the baby nazgul. The flywoo nano has the runcam nano 3 with v2 or v3 lens, which has a softer image but a wider fov. I like a super wide fov as it makes it feel like we going faster :) But still the atom camera is likely largely considered better.
Make this little Quads more Thrust as 63mm Whoops?
Not sure I understand the question.... On similar sized motors of this size 40mm props are more efficient and provide more thrust than 31mm or 35mm props.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you
Would you buy this over the Mobula7 ELRS if you had to choose one for indoor + outdoor?
No I would go mobula7 elrs. I generally don’t fly inside without prop protection
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks. Which one would u say is more fun to fly in general?
@@nerassurdo If we compare outside only, its somewhat close. The mobula 7 1s is likely to have longer flights, but be more troublesome to fly in wind. The mobula 7 also has a much stronger vtx, so I goggle connection should be better with a cleaner image.
Nick possible to share your setting for flywoo ?
What are you looking for? The settings are stock on that quad. The only changes are for my rates and the radio switches how I am used to them.
sure
@@manwithgutz sure?? My rates are pitch and roll 1.2 super of .75, yaw is 1.30 and super .8. I arm with the lower right switch, flight mode select with the next switch up, turtle and beeper on the top left switch....on the jumper t-lite.
Does the camera tilt up-and-down
It does not have adjustable camera angle.
Imagine being the one who bought the 65mm🤣🤣. Dang this thing rips!
Yes 2s please, so I can strap my go 2 😀😀
Easy to imagine.. I did. Now I regret it 😓
@@HarleyAssi Awww sucks dude:-(. Maybe can buy the 73mm frame?!
Tried the code a couple days ago when I ordered the mobula6 elrs, didn't work for me in the UK.
Sorry. Still working on them.
Any tricks for getting props off? Especially with whoops. I have a tendency to break motors just by swapping props
pinch the bell from the bottom through the frame with one hand, and twist and pull the prop from the top with the other hand.
@@NickBurnsFPV You must have strong fingers haha! I literally pulled the shaft right out and still couldn’t get the prop off. These gemfan boys are tough.
@@Shauny_D twist and pull with some tension no hulk hands :) focus on the twist and only tension as the pulling.
I love these frames. I've absolutely bashed my 63mm to death and it's still the only quad I have thats all original parts. I've re-soldered a cam wire 1 time but other than that I've never had any issues. And the 63mm is the best flying micro I've ever flown. Idk if that's because of the top mount batt or just the combo of specs but I'm in love with the 63mm. Im really hoping the 73mm flies similarly. After flying my other whoops and micros I'm always just gobsmacked when I pull my baby nazgul back out. So responsive, nimble, accurate, and I can just shred it so much harder than even my 75mm moblite custom
Its really rare a whoop or prop guarded quad can hold a candle to those without prop guards. Like running with a parachute on :)
I always go for performance... But, high performance in the smallest size is the way to go!
2:30 flight time is fine because I know going with a bigger battery effects performance negatively. Newbies who think it has to have 5+ minutes flight time are just that... Newbies... And haven't learned that in FPV we go for performance and Rippin'! If you want long flight time, go buy a Mavic! In FPV, all we do is buy more batteries, rip it again, change batteries, and rip it some more!
Flight time is one of THE MOST overrated factors in flying quads! Buy more batteries! 👍🥴
And YES! I wouldn't buy any of these 3 because a 2s version of all of these will RIP EVEN HARDER! MUCH HARDER!!!
Waiting iFlight & Flywoo....😎🤘
YES. I don't seem to be getting much traction asking for 2s versions. Going to start to look at another custom tks design....maybe. :)
And buy more chargers, too! To charge 'em while flying :)
I use two chargers while I'm in the air: one to bring each flown battery up to 3.7v, the other to parallel charge 6+ batts (as they are all at the same storage voltage now)
Are you eta prime also?
I don't know what that means.
Nick should I go with the mobula 6 with a jumper tlite or flywoo with erls
do you plan to fly inside or outside only. If inside only or inside and outside the mobula6, if outside only the flywoo
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks 👍 I would be flying both indoor and out
@@scu-dub oh that's fairly unique. I presume in the indoor space would be large and not a home as without prop protection the smallest of quads have the potential to damage items in a traditional home.
Hi Nick hope your well, I've got the 63mm but flight time is quite bad 1.45 on 1s 300mah, or 2.30 on 1s 450mah. I'm a noob n learning but would you be able to to a bigger mah battery. I have some new 520mah? Also my camera broke n stopped working I no longer a signal in my skyzone goggles. Banggood got in touch within hours saying they will send a new runcam atom. C if that works otherwise I'm stuck an it will just be another bnf I can't fly. Thanks.
If you get osd but no image, that is a broken camera. If there is not osd or image then that is a broken vtx. We can try bigger batteries but there is a weight at which the flight time starts to go down.
@@NickBurnsFPV so the osd should still work in the goggles if camera busted. Thanks I didn't know that I better check as banggood already sending a new runcam atom.
I haven't got any picture and can't find a signal in 2 pairs of goggles. So can't see if it's the vtx or camera. I'll know once the camera arrives otherwise a new vtx too. Gutted I've only had it a few days I'm dying to rip it properly in the goggles line of sight gets boring lol. Thanks for getting back to me bro. Love your channel and your flying.
Still got my crux 3 rippin though. 2s 450mah works well on the crux n it's such a smooth nippy quad. Way faster than I'm used too.
Is there a default Betaflight dump anyone could point me to? Just got the nano 73 and none of the Betaflight setting were configured including calibration, modes, motor configuration, etc. Have mostly got it setup now but I think the pids aren’t right either. Motors now turn on, drone does a baby hop / spin and turns off immediately.
Here is the diff from mine.
# version
# Betaflight / IFLIGHTF411RX (IFRCF4RX) 4.2.8 Jun 12 2021 / 10:10:32 () MSP API: 1.43
# start the command batch
batch start
board_name IFLIGHTF411RX
manufacturer_id IFRC
# name: Baby Nazgul 73
# feature
feature -TELEMETRY
# beacon
beacon RX_LOST
beacon RX_SET
# serial
serial 0 2048 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 1 64 115200 57600 0 115200
# aux
aux 0 0 0 1700 2100 0 0
aux 1 1 1 900 1175 0 0
aux 2 13 2 1300 1700 0 0
aux 3 35 2 1700 2100 0 0
# vtxtable
vtxtable bands 5
vtxtable channels 8
vtxtable band 1 BOSCAM_A A FACTORY 5865 5845 5825 5805 5785 5765 5745 5725
vtxtable band 2 BOSCAM_B B FACTORY 5733 5752 5771 5790 5809 5828 5847 5866
vtxtable band 3 BOSCAM_E E FACTORY 5705 5685 5665 0 5885 5905 0 0
vtxtable band 4 FATSHARK F FACTORY 5740 5760 5780 5800 5820 5840 5860 5880
vtxtable band 5 RACEBAND R FACTORY 5658 5695 5732 5769 5806 5843 5880 5917
vtxtable powerlevels 2
vtxtable powervalues 0 1
vtxtable powerlabels 25 50
# master
set dyn_notch_width_percent = 0
set dyn_notch_q = 250
set dyn_notch_min_hz = 200
set dyn_notch_max_hz = 800
set acc_calibration = -62,40,191,1
set baro_hardware = NONE
set min_check = 1000
set max_check = 2000
set serialrx_provider = SBUS
set rx_spi_protocol = FRSKY_D
set blackbox_p_ratio = 0
set blackbox_device = NONE
set dshot_idle_value = 1000
set dshot_bidir = ON
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT300
set motor_poles = 12
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 437
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 310
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 330
set ibata_scale = 400
set yaw_motors_reversed = ON
set small_angle = 180
set thrust_linear = 30
set osd_rssi_pos = 2074
set osd_link_quality_pos = 311
set osd_rssi_dbm_pos = 299
set osd_tim_2_pos = 2455
set osd_flymode_pos = 2425
set osd_throttle_pos = 2049
set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 2100
set osd_current_pos = 2440
set osd_mah_drawn_pos = 2448
set osd_craft_name_pos = 2056
set osd_warnings_pos = 14634
set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 2433
set osd_disarmed_pos = 2283
set vtx_band = 5
set vtx_channel = 8
set vtx_power = 2
set vtx_freq = 5917
set frsky_spi_tx_id = 162,218
set frsky_spi_offset = -58
set frsky_spi_bind_hop_data = 0,30,60,91,120,150,180,210,5,35,65,95,125,155,185,215,10,40,70,100,130,160,190,221,15,45,75,105,135,165,195,225,20,50,80,110,140,170,200,230,25,55,85,115,145,175,205,0,0,0
set name = Baby Nazgul 73
profile 0
# profile 0
set dyn_lpf_dterm_min_hz = 91
set dyn_lpf_dterm_max_hz = 221
set dterm_lowpass2_hz = 195
set anti_gravity_gain = 4000
set feedforward_transition = 20
set iterm_relax_cutoff = 10
set yaw_lowpass_hz = 100
set throttle_boost = 15
set p_pitch = 94
set i_pitch = 108
set d_pitch = 65
set f_pitch = 137
set p_roll = 85
set i_roll = 102
set d_roll = 60
set f_roll = 130
set p_yaw = 70
set i_yaw = 108
set f_yaw = 130
set d_min_roll = 42
set d_min_pitch = 46
set d_min_boost_gain = 40
set d_min_advance = 30
rateprofile 0
# rateprofile 0
set thr_mid = 100
set thr_expo = 55
set roll_rc_rate = 120
set pitch_rc_rate = 120
set yaw_rc_rate = 130
set roll_srate = 75
set pitch_srate = 75
set yaw_srate = 80
set tpa_rate = 60
@@NickBurnsFPV perfect! My original diff only had a few lines. Drone works beautifully now! The dump was also missing from iflights google drive. After I reached out to them they added the files to their drive. Happy flying and thanks for the awesome reviews!
@@jasonbaker7006 Great. Thanks for letting me know, appreciate that. yes, I don't know why their repository takes time after the product launch or someone has to ask for it to trigger them to post it.
Guess I'll be converting my under performing 65mm to this
Looking for more performance? Might be worth it to get the 73mm and have spare parts. Not sure the cost is effective to swap motors, frame and props?
@@NickBurnsFPV ones the bottom plate becomes available I will give that try with the 22000kv motors. I have 25000kv mobula6 on a 75mm frame and that works perfectly fine
Do you ever fly up or down the slide in the garden Nick?
I do on occassion. I don't think it has made it into any videos :( Generally the quad gets spun around as I go down the slide and it gets sloppy trying to get off the slide and fly on. Ends up not being all that fun to me.
Best nano drone for you?)
The 73mm baby nazgul is the 1s micro drone I like the most for outdoor flight.
Mine came with CF
I do now see they have an option for crossfire.
thx for letting us hear the lil fkkr :D
Hey… can a mini drone fly itself? if a crook breaks in the home the drone can harass him.
lol, well there has been a number of autonomous larger drones
Bottom plate looks more like 1.5mm thick
your right, slip of the tongue there. measurement is clearly 1.5mm :)
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the awesome content. Keep it up it 💪🏼
Congrats on using every single mAh in that first pack. 512 out of a possible 450!! lol
lol, yea, not calibrated correctly from the factory
Awesome review !!! #functiongameonpoint
So, I imagine the 73mm baby nazgul is probably more robust and stronger but the firefly nano baby has a longer flight time while ripping because of the softer and lighter frame. I'm excited about both of them and the upgrade in flight time is awesome! Cant wait to own all 3 rather than just the 63mm baby nazgul
Wow! You lost a lot of weight didn’t you?
Yes. I have been working on it