Do THIS When Writing Orchestral Metal
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2020
- Here's the first tutorial of my "How To Write Orchestral Metal / Symphonic Metal" series.
It's based on my collab with @Ro Panuganti, a cover of "Birth Of A God" from Final Fantasy VII, where we tried to go for a "Periphery meets Hans Zimmer" sort of sound, made in FL Studio.
I may make more if this one does well.
It's up to you guys!
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- Full Analysis Of This Track: • How To Write a FF7 Rem...
- Full Track: spoti.fi/2WcED1A
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(For each module, the libraries are sorted based on how much I like them).
- STRINGS: Metropolis Ark 1 & 3, Nucleus, Cinematic Studio Strings, Fluid Shorts, Cinematic Strings 2, Jaeger
- BRASS: Metropolis Ark 1 & 3, JXL Brass, Nucleus, Twelve Horn Ensemble, CineBrass CORE, Century Brass, Jaeger, Angry Brass
- CHOIR: Oceania, Metropolis Ark 1, Stormchoir 2
- WOODWINDS: CineWinds CORE, Nucleus, Metropolis Ark 1 & 3
- HYBRID PERCS & LOOPS: Damage, PercX, Decimator Drums, Cerberus
- BIG CINEMATIC PERCS: Los Angeles Modern Percussion, New Epic Toms Ensemble, New Epic Dhol Ensemble, CinePerc
- ORCHESTRAL PERCS: CinePerc, Rhapsody Orchestral Percussion, Kontakt Factory Library
- PIANO: The Giant, Woodchester Piano, Spitfire LABS Soft Piano
- HARPS & OTHERS: CineHarp, Kontakt Factory Library
- SYNTHS: Juggernaut, Serum, Harmor, Jaeger, Evolution Atlantica,
- ORCHESTRAL SFX: Metropolis Ark 3, Palette Orchestral FX
- SOLO STRINGS: Tina Guo Solo Cello, Solos of the Sea, Cinematic Studio Strings Solo
- SOLO VOCALS: Jaeger, Vocalisa
- GUITARS: Basic Live Guitars & Bass routed into Waves GTR / Guitar Rig, Metropolis Ark 1, Heavyocity Atlantica
- TRAILER SFX: Custom / Private Samples, AVA Instinct, Cinematic Trailers Designed, Epic Sound Effects Quantum, Scenes From The Multiverse Vol.1, Juggernaut, Jaeger, Evolution Atlantica, AizerX Classic Trailers Toolkit, AizerX Trailer SFX Tools
- REVERB: ValhallaRoom, ValhallaShimmer
- MIXING & MASTERING: iZotope Ozone 9 Advanced, iZotope Neutron, FabFilter Pro-Q3, FL Studio Plugins
- DAW: FL Studio 20
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- Desktop PC: 3.7 GHz Intel Core i7 8700k / 32GB DDR4 RAM / 2TB Samsung Evo860 M.2 SSD
- Laptop PC: Asus ROG GLW752 (2.6GHz Intel Core i7-6700HQ / 16GB DDR4 RAM / 1TB Samsung Evo860 M.2 SSD)
- Audio Interface: M-Audio M-Track Plus
- MIDI Keyboard: M-Audio Keystation 49 MkIII
There's plenty more to talk about in this track alone. If this video does well I will definitely talk about more subjects in this one, like how we layered the guitar to the orchestra in some parts.
Also, I'm stemming the track as we speak, will upload those on Patreon in a few hours
Ok but where is the song?
@@marco19878 Spotify
@@AlexMoukala Thank you!
Huge help!!! thank you for this video
Hi, Alex. I am new to you channel, but I´m learning a lot already. I´ve been working as composer for the last two yeas and I as and admirer of your work, I would like to know if you could give me some advices on how to get into the bussines of selling music for video games. Would you have something to help me with that? I would be pleased to show you some of my pieces. Thanks!
Could you maybe do a 'from scratch' symphonic metal tutorial? Or something a bit longer? I'd really like to know how to make this kind of music myself
This is good stuff, I realy wouldn't mind watching a 20+ minute video on this topic. Thanks for your insightful videos! :)
Great stuff!
Bro, you are a constant inspiration for me and the reason I took my music to the next level. Awesome vid!
The Baton pass Technique is so underrated For Hybrid Music /Hybrid Orchestral
MORE METALLLLLLLLL!!!...please :)
your channel is amazing. thank you so much!
This channel is incredible. I've wanted to learn how to do all the type of composition you cover for the longest time and it wasn't until I found this channel that I really felt inspired (and empowered) to take serious action, buckle down, and learn the craft. Thank you, so very much, for sharing your experience.
This is simple but so effective, thanks mate!
Nice one Alex! I actually noticed a similar technique in Genshin Impact's "Inazuma" where there are certain moments that the woodwinds get out of the way for the main melody, and come back in right away when that melody mellows out.
Alex doesn't mess around with hellos, just gets straight into the content. Keep up the good videos Alex. 👍
Interesting video Alex! Didn’t even realize orchestral metal was a thing... but I love it!!
Symphonic metal is a whole genre. Check out "Ghost Love Score" and "Dark Chest of Wonders" by Nightwish (preferably live clips), and also the band Kamelot, for some great examples. A lot of metal bands incorporate orchestral elements, some relying more on it than others, but the genre of symphonic metal is a vast one
@@Windaros I second that, Ghost Love Score is freaking fire.
The Final Fantasy VII Remake Soundtrack is also a great example of symphonic metal for some tracks, like "The Airbuster"
@@AlexMoukala One of my personal favourites in this genre: ua-cam.com/video/EMQeGubna3E/v-deo.html . It's by Hiroyuki Sawano. People call him japanese Hans Zimmer for a reason. If you never heard about him Alex I highly recommend checking out his works. He creates complex, full, bigger than life arangations, which seems to be your cup of tea. In my opinion he's one of the best composers out there when it comes to filling out the background.
While we're here, the entirety of Devin Townsend's "Deconstruction" album for a less typical approach
@@Windaros Yes! I love Symphonic Metal. Epica is my favorite band. I also love older Nightwish.
Totally agree! This trick helps a lot
Great tutorial! Superlative
I am a big fan thank you you are a master!
thank you so much mate
Alex , what kind of music education backround do you have? I wonder this . Because you can perfectly produce musics at classic, jazz, rock. And also you can create wonderful sounds with mixs and masterings in the digital programms like a sound engineer.
please make a video which explain detaily about your musical education backround for amateurs like me.
Thank you very much to this video❤❤👍
I was wondering if Alex might actually look at a periphery track for this like or example Marigold or Reptile where the entire song is filled with confounding melodies and orchestral music all across the song that Im sure he can go through and explain why it works so well and how to recreate or replicate that sort of thing
Music Man: "Less is more"
Me: [Throws away "Layering" tutorial]
0:24 lol
Man! You're super talented! ❤️
The thing that got my attention was choir! How & what do you use to get those massive wall of voices?
Never clicked on a video so fast!
I wanna try for this
This advice is very true to my own, rather limited, experience. As a guitarist, I am constantly frustrated by the black-hole-of-frequencies that my instrument is to the sonorous delicacies of the orchestra (unless it's acoustic). It's a lot easier to think of the orchestra like a powermetal band's keyboardist would (constant ensemble patches and pads). The orchestra is NOT a keyboard patch.
I'm thrilled to see more trailer-core meets metal-core. It really is a beautiful collision of two worlds. Neoclassical metal is still *mostly* not classical, but it's very very fun. I'd be thrilled to see more heavy metal in the film score world.
amazing
Great video as always. By the way, which webcam are you using? I am asking this because I plan on making UA-cam videos myself. so I would like to know as a reference which webcam gives this level of image quality.
Hey Alex, I have a question: do you write your midi directly on the DAW, or you write it somewhere else and then import it into the DAW?
I use to write my midi on music notation softwares and open them on Reaper, but often have issues with (there's no sound at all), even if the midi has sound, is not corrupted and the notes in it are in the right range of the instruments I try to play.
I noticed that my midi files with notes with different articulations (vibrato, slide hammer-on, etc) show no sound when i use my VST (Miroslav Philharmonik) on Reaper. Among the midi with no articulations, however, some do work and some do not. I don't understand why. Do you have any clue about it? Thanks in advance and keep up the good work! :)
Hardware question: which cans are you using? I'm looking for some decent cabled headphones for composing, and yours look pretty damn comfortable for extended wearing. I have a pair of Sennheiser R165 with felt ear pads instead of the terrible out of the box faux-leather, but they're wireless so using a second pair on a second base station in the same room would be inviting all kinds of problems.
Would love to collab on something a little heavier with you!! been following you for a while love your tutorials!!!
Also keep in mind the voicing of voal-ranged instruments. Mashing orchestral pieces with mid-range clarinets, trumpets, and alto saxes can disrupt a choir.
Hello Alex Sir, Biggest fan..
Ur My inspiration🙏❤..
That was great. Were u using pre rendered sound , while u were showin different parts? It seemed a bit unpatched with the screen, i mean there was a delay
Hi Alex Moukala, what do you think about" Venice Modern Strings", thanks for your answer, you did great job !!
more low mid on snare and it's perfect ^^
Hi Alex! First, I've listened to full version of this track and it's fire (even though the beginning seems to convoluted for me despite your "Less is more" motto 😆 but that's your style, so I get it). Second, I've been wondering about something. I'm all about 'tool doesn't matter, artist makes music' philosophy, and I'm sure you're too, but at the same time... FL Studio has lot of flaws when it comes to orchestral music. No true instrument tracks, no easy in-pattern automations (events are very hard to use compared to regular automations), no audio-fades, no one click freeze/unfreeze, high CPU usage compared to most other DAWs, big latency isues compared to most other DAWs and so on. In my opinion, one of the best things that was 'added' to Fl Studio in past few years, is BRSO Articulate... and it's not even an official plugin, that says something. Don't get me wrong, I love Fl Studio, but it's hard to argue that Cubase, Studio One or even Live are better choices for this type of music. Main reasons why I still use FL Studio are: habits, sentiment, my BRSO Presets that took lot of time to make and I don't want to waste time to learn new daw when I can spend it to make music. I would like to hear your opinion on this matter. I think it's even a nice idea for a video. 'Why FL Studio isn't as bad for orchestral music as you may think it is?' - kinda clickbaitish 😁
I've bee wanting to make that video for the longest time, one day I'll tackle that conversation, FL for me (PERSONALLY), for example, feels much easier to use than Cubase even for this kind of music.
Also, the discussion about tools is kinda deeper than that:
Tools DO matter, but they only make a difference when you develop the skills to use them.
There's no point having the best software if you have no idea how to compose etc.
are you going to review spitfire bbc symphonic orchestra discover?
@0:40 "More is not better" / "Less is more" absolutely...
There is a UA-camr (Blender guru) that makes tutorials for a 3d modeling software but also sometimes requests art created by fans to criticize it, give advice and ultimately advance the skill of these artists and the viewers at using the software. I was thinking that you could do something similar (maybe a series?). I happen to have small track I plan to finish later, I think it sounds good but I am worried I am not taking full advantage of what the FL Studio is capable of.
Pure gold. Thank you.
Hey it's a humble request can you re-create VENOM TRAILER TRACK with the free orchestral instruments. It will be a great challenge for you.
Hey Alex I would love for you to check out the FFXIII Trilogy soundtracks. In my opinion majority of the Soundtracks are the best I've ever heard compared to every other FF game and even Nier Automata, which holds my second favourite OSTs. I guarantee that you will love them too since I know you rate NieR and the FF ones too
How can you see A,G,F#,F etc. on your keys in Piano roll?
Did ya alrready play ff7 remake?
Nice tutorial vid anyway you re awesom
how about counter melody, alex? will it work??
i'm sorry, I should've finish the video. question's answered, lol
What VST for the choirs?
How can i send you my demo music??
0:40
More ≠ better
Less = more
Therefore
Less ≠ better
This is great
Does someone know little jacob from gta 4? He sounds like him.
Супер
Hi alex Please can you react to " *GOD SHATTERING STAR* " and tell to us your opinion and explain how they do this masterpiece 😁
more is not better
less is more
less is worse ?
If you ever react to fan's orchestra music, you should check this one out! soundcloud.com/gabe-belka/yesterday-belka500
Was that a Persona reference lol
@Alex do r&b tutorials lol
Have you ever heard a band called Mechina? They are the best Orchestra/Sci-Fi metal band I've ever heard. Joe, the composer, says he has hundreds of tracks in his DAW (he uses Protools) and I easily believe it. Their songs are insanely intense and complex. Check this song for example: ua-cam.com/video/xwVJnl7Vk5I/v-deo.html
Your nose is amazing
No periphery here
I find it very sad that the most pleasant activity is seen so negative that no one even dares to talk about it and a place where you suffer indefinite pain for eternity can be talked about without even thinking about it.
I feel like lead guitars typically don't fit the mood of an orchestral/orchestral metal tracks.
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this how to write, is just too simple. symphonic metal is so hard to make, less means more doesn't mean anything to most people
Alex I like you man. But do the exact opposite of this. Use as many instruments as the track needs. Fleshgod apocalypse never did this. Plus if you do this you lose the big cinematic sound if you craft the orchestra around the guitars. But if you want that, then that's fine but don't limit yourself. Keep rockin man \,,|,